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Never Rationalize Debt!

Tue, 05 Nov 2024

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๐Ÿ“ฑWatch the full episode for free in the Ramsey Network app. Ken Coleman & George Kamel answer your questions and discuss: "Pull from my 401(k) to pay my ex-husband?" "I can't break the habit of living like I'm broke" "A potential employer wants me to pay them" "Keep our credit cards to build our credit score?". Support Our Sponsors: ๐ŸŒฑ Get 10% off your first month of BetterHelp ๐Ÿฅ Learn more about Christian Healthcare Ministries ๐Ÿก Get started today with Churchill Mortgage ๐Ÿ”’ Get 20% off when you join DeleteMe ๐Ÿฆ Go to FAIRWINDS Credit Union for an exclusive account bundle! ๐Ÿฅ— Save 15% on your first Field of Greens order with code RAMSEY ๐Ÿ’ค Visit Helix Sleep for special offers! ๐Ÿ’ป Visit NetSuite today to learn more ๐Ÿ—‚๏ธ Use promo code RAMSEY for18% off at The Nokbox ๐Ÿ›Get started with YRefy or call 844-2-RAMSEY ๐Ÿ” Visit Zander Insurance for your free instant quote today! Next Steps ๐Ÿ“ž Have a question for the show? Call 888-825-5225 Weekdays from 2-5pm ET or click here! ๐Ÿ“ˆย Are you on track with the Baby Steps? Get a Free Personalized Plan ๐Ÿ’ผ Grow yourself and your business with real-life, real-time coaching to help you win in business and leadership ๐ŸŽ„ You could win $5,000 in the Ramsey Christmas Cash Giveaway! Enter today! ๐ŸŽ 50 days of Christmas deals are here! Get 30% off meaningful gifts ๐ŸŽŸ๏ธ See Dave and John LIVE in a city near you! ๐Ÿ’ต Start your free budget today. Download the EveryDollar app! ๐Ÿ›ณ๏ธ Live Like No One Else Cruise ๐Ÿ’ก Access Ramseyโ€™s Complete Guide to Investing for free Listen to more from Ramsey Network ๐ŸŽ™๏ธ The Ramsey Show ย  ๐Ÿง  The Dr. John Delony Show ๐Ÿธ Smart Money Happy Hour ๐Ÿ’ก The Rachel Cruze Show ๐Ÿ’ธ The Ramsey Show Highlights ๐Ÿ’ฐ George Kamel ๐Ÿ’ผ The Ken Coleman Show ๐Ÿ“ˆ EntreLeadership Learn more about your ad choices.ย https://www.megaphone.fm/adchoices Ramsey Solutions Privacy Policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: How can I break free from living paycheck to paycheck?

64.219 - 64.979 George Kamel

Very traditional.

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65.04 - 87.28 Ken Coleman

I like to wait, you know. I respect it. But I tell you what, it doesn't matter who wins today because we'll be here tomorrow. And the next day, we'll help you win with your money, no matter who's in the White House. So calm yourself. You got your money questions. I feel like if they're listening to the show today, they're doing pretty good. Right. You know what I mean?

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87.3 - 94.948 George Kamel

Like mentally, you're doing pretty good if you're not glued to headlines and instead you're listening to us. That tells me something about how your life is going. How are you doing right now?

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95.288 - 99.772 Ken Coleman

I'm doing great. You seem to be a self-admitted anxious person.

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99.992 - 106.377 George Kamel

That's true. Are you anxious about it? The more anxious other people get, the calmer I get. Because I go, oh, gosh, I guess I'm not that anxious. Okay.

106.678 - 117.787 Ken Coleman

Yeah. That's kind of interesting. That's where I come in. All right. Well, we're calm. We're clear here today to help you win in those areas. Let's go. Cynthia is joining us in Tallahassee, Florida. Cynthia, how can we help today?

119.148 - 122.891 Robert

Hi, Cynthia. Sorry. Thanks for having me. I'm kind of nervous.

122.911 - 124.012 Ken Coleman

You're doing great.

125.695 - 152.906 Robert

Okay, I feel like I'm stuck. I am here in Florida, originally from Texas. I moved to Florida in 2013 to help my parents. They were aging, so I wanted to be closer to them. Subsequently, we got married. We bought a house in 2017. And then both of our houses, my parents' house and my house, got damaged by the Hurricane Michael in 2018. It took us three years.

Chapter 2: Should I pull from my 401(k) to pay my ex-husband?

Chapter 3: Is it wise to sell my house and rent instead?

205.646 - 219.21 Robert

get rid of my house, bank the money, put it in CDs and then just rent and not have to think about, well, if another hurricane comes, at least I won't be responsible for that house or two houses again.

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220.071 - 221.251 George Kamel

What's going on with the other house?

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222.984 - 225.626 Robert

That's my parents' house. They're living in that house.

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225.906 - 228.407 George Kamel

But you own it completely. That's theirs. Is there a mortgage on it?

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228.427 - 229.388 Robert

No, they own it completely.

229.648 - 231.009 George Kamel

Oh, so you don't have two houses.

232.01 - 237.313 Ken Coleman

You keep saying... Right, their house, no. I think she means she's responsible for her parents. She's kind of their chief caregiver.

238.074 - 243.957 George Kamel

Yeah, and you would rent. Would it make sense for you to just move into the parents' house if you are the caregiver?

246.579 - 248.66 Robert

It would be difficult and more stressful.

Chapter 4: What should I do if my family is being unfair in estate planning?

326.398 - 330.399 George Kamel

Okay. And did your husband have life insurance? Do you have any other assets?

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332.319 - 354.213 Robert

He had a small amount of life insurance. I do have an emergency fund. I have about $50,000 in savings. Maybe about, I carry five in checking. Do you have any debt other than the mortgage? I have one credit card that has about $900 balance on it.

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354.713 - 359.474 Ken Coleman

Remind us again, what will you stand to make on this house if you sell it? What will you clear?

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359.494 - 362.095 Robert

I'm thinking around $200,000.

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362.135 - 367.416 George Kamel

And you would just put that in a high-yield savings account?

369.412 - 378.637 Robert

Yeah, I would put it someplace where it would draw interest but be safe. I was thinking CDs haven't really gone that far with it.

378.997 - 393.805 George Kamel

Well, your high-yield savings account will have competitive rates while keeping it very safe. It's FDIC-insured, and so it's not going to disappear. You're not investing this money, and it'll just help it grow with sort of the pace of inflation. If you're talking about 4% right now is what the rates are at.

394.345 - 407.609 Ken Coleman

You know, Cynthia, I don't know, George, what you think about this. I don't like the fact that her rent's almost half of her take-home pay, but yet I understand she wants to kind of get out of this house. I wonder if buying a condo or something that's muchโ€” Get her payment lower.

407.769 - 421.973 Ken Coleman

Get your payment lower, less expensive, not have to worry about, you know, like a single-unit house and any kind of storm stuff, you know, be a part of something. Have you thought through that? Do you understand our concern about your rent being almost half of your take-home?

Chapter 5: How can I make a smart car purchase without debt?

456.914 - 460.797 Robert

What would be ideal? Oh, I could be at $1,500 or less would be awesome.

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461.077 - 463.799 George Kamel

Yeah, that's what I'd be aiming for. What's your mortgage payment now?

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475.627 - 475.607 Cynthia (Day Day's mom)

$166.

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477.128 - 477.568 Robert

Okay. Okay.

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480.185 - 496.664 George Kamel

Yeah, I would do some more homework. But either way, you know, you're going to be okay. But again, we don't just want too much of your world being eaten up by that rent to where you can't accomplish other financial goals. And then you have a new version of stress, which is financial stress. So I think we're going to have to do some homework.

496.724 - 502.587 George Kamel

I mean, it's a rock and a hard place here, and I hope it's just a season for you, and we can get you to smoother ground soon.

502.767 - 527.416 Ken Coleman

Yeah, so sorry, Cynthia, for all of the storms you've been through, but it seems like you've got a really great attitude, and that's what it takes to walk through these times of pain and come out on the other side. So thank you for sharing your story and time with us. Quick break. He's George Campbell. I'm Ken Coleman. This is The Ramsey Show. Welcome back America. Thrilled to have you with us.

527.436 - 541.76 Ken Coleman

How are you doing out there? How are you feeling? It's a big day today, I think, isn't it? A lot of emotions today. Something going on today? I don't know what's going on. I've got to check the calendar. It's National Something Day, isn't it? Something, what is it?

541.8 - 546.544 George Kamel

What do they call it? Election Day. Is it called National Election Day?

Chapter 6: What financial strategies should I consider for retirement?

744.155 - 767.739 Michelle

I would potentially make a little bit less doing that compared to what I'm doing now, as the leadership role is more of a base salary position with an annual bonus at the end of the year. And my current role is I'm more on the sales arm, and I'm doing really well with the sales part of my job. So going into leadership, I might make a little bit less upfront.

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767.939 - 783.682 Michelle

However, what I'm struggling with is if I moved into leadership over the course of my lifetime, right, my total lifetime earnings might be higher. So it put me down that career track where I can move into, you know, leadership and then potentially, you know, to an executive role and make more later on.

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783.702 - 805.684 Michelle

So I'm just trying to figure out what to do and to throw another curve ball into the mix is that I've only been in my current role with my company for about 11 months, out of the, you know, um, you know, 11, 12 years I've been at my current company. So they're trying to figure out which direction to go. And, uh, yeah. Well, which one do you want?

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807.744 - 813.106 Michelle

Well, I think I'd like to go into leadership more than anything. Um, but I would be potentially taking a pay cut.

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813.126 - 814.767 Ken Coleman

So that's the, how much of a pay cut?

816.387 - 819.809 Michelle

Um, potentially 80 to a hundred thousand dollars.

819.829 - 823.01 Ken Coleman

Whoa. And this is with your current company. They've offered you this role.

824.085 - 845.052 Michelle

They haven't offered me the role in writing, so I applied for it. And what they told me is, you know, you're doing a good job. We can see you doing it, but we're not going to give it to you right now. So what they're going to do is there's an opportunity for me with another leader in the company who's going to be They're not going to be around. Let's put it that way.

845.072 - 852.94 Michelle

I don't want to give out too much information, but they're not going to be around for seven, eight months. And what they're planning to do is let me take over for that person.

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