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Yeah, they need to make a move at the five, really. It's trying to get somebody to replace Mitchell Robinson to emulate what the Timberwolves did with Cat and have a Rudy Gobert-like guy behind them. And I hear what you're saying in terms of Jalen Brunson. You should have a center behind Cat, or at least allowing Cat to get out of actions. I mean, that... Pascal Siakam going at him.

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You can probably live with that, even though Cat went skating in that third quarter, that one play. Oh, man, I'm surprised that wasn't all over the internet. I mean, he was literally skating. That was an awesome move. But somehow the Timberwolves built the best defense with Cat. And I think that's just the number five. It's the center, really. I think the most important thing that they have to do.

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A little bit, yeah. Well, Mitchell just can't be out there. Mitchell's not good enough.

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I feel like it's over. I don't have a really great feeling, but it doesn't feel like... I mean, Cat's obviously banged up. I don't know if I'm going to play into the injuries part, but they didn't have it in this game. Can they do it for their home crowd? Considering they haven't won at home in this series, so maybe they've got to win one.

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Three and five, I guess, throughout the playoffs at home. Is that right? I think that's it. They've lost a lot there. I think that's correct.

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Yeah. Yeah. It was late that they showed him. I was surprised by that. And I was a little surprised by Ali LaForce's second question was about dead. It was about the game for Tyrese Halliburton postgame. And then who'd you do it for? Oh, yeah. Yeah. That guy. That guy up there. Yeah. That was an early ask. I thought. I don't know why I'm considering it an early ask.

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I thought we'd have him earlier on, but Allie's reports were too important. They trumped John Halliburton, which was a big story coming into this game.

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You'd wear that? You'd wear that hat? I'd wear that hat. I mean, he's just so unique. It's like, I got to copy that guy. You can see where it's stitched on the sides there. But the brim is, you know, it's kind of like the biker brim or the cyclist brim.

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Well, it was more Triple H saying, hey, can I shake your hand?

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And we're on a mat that goes... We're on a one floor. Yeah, Matherance had definitely hit the floor. Yeah, there's no doubt because earlier in the playoffs, a man Thompson also went to the floor after a hard hit, but his hair was big enough, I think, to cushion some of that. I don't think his head went bouncing off the floor. And this one, Matherin literally hitting wood. That sucks.

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Yeah, Brunson was saying, what was he saying? That's my shot, or that's my ball. That's my ball, over and over again.

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They brought a ton of them. There was a clip of George Hill doing the beer chug in the front row. He chugged it. Although I think the director said, get off him. Cut, cut. I don't think he wanted to show an entire beer chug. We're civilized here. Did you see what we did in game three? Roy Hibbert chugged a bottle of water. We stayed there for the whole time. That's cool. Bottle of water, cool.

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Doing a whole beer thing? Nah, we're better than that. We're not the Milwaukee Bucks. Remember when they showed a couple Green Bay Packers? They had Aaron Rodgers versus... David Bakhtiari. That was a back and forth little chug fest. Nah, nah. We're more civilized than them. We don't do that kind of thing. But it was nice to see, yeah, Danny Granger. Travis Best again. He came back again.

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Lance Stevenson got the crowd hype. That was fun. I thought Tibbs was pretty funny in an audio assist hearing him saying, no jogs, no jogs, sprints, sprints. Don't leave the ball unguarded. We're better than that. You don't usually hear someone say, no jogs. No jogs. That's our running podcast coming this fall. No jogs. Never heard it before. Sprints. Sprints.

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Directly to Carl Anthony Towns, I think. But I guess they weren't sprinting hard enough. He was right.

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I don't know what underdog weighs, but... I'm guessing he's curling 130 pounds there.

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Walking in New York sucks when it's raining, though. Oh, yeah. I'm walking here. I just got soggy shoes for days. I can still feel it. The water in between my toes. Gross.

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Huge one. A lot of crying Knicks fans while we were in New York in a bar because of Aaron Neesmith.

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Yeah, they were announced last week. The all-rookie teams, those two standard teams that come out. And when the 24-25 teams were announced, Skeetsy brought up the question, how many all-star games will these guys make? Well, here are the teams. Just as a reminder, the first team, Svan Castle, Zach Eadie, Zachary Risache, Alex Saar, and Jalen Wells.

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And the second team, Matas Bouzelis, Bub Carrington, Donovan Klingin, Eve Misi, and Khalil Ware. We've kind of set a line at 4.5 all-star appearances for their career. I think we're primarily looking at the first team. So there were some questions. Do players from the second all-rookie team make all-star games? Well, we went through the history to check it out. Are they MVPs?

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Do they come from the second all-rookie team? You'll be surprised. How many all-star appearances do the good all-rookie teams get? How many do the bad ones get? What's the range here? Was there a year where all rookies made zero all-star appearances? It's possible. We'll see about that. Our man Dan Lanzara, Dan Lan, he goes by. He did the research. He sent it in. He said...

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this is what I found from 2000 to 2020. So he did 21 years of research. Now I'll just say this note before we get into them. 15 of the 21 years had double digits in all-star appearances for all rookie first team members. Um, So that's a big number. But let's get through them. We'll go through a couple different ways here. First, let's start with the good one.

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The team that had 50-50, excuse me, 55 all-star appearances. Not 50-50, 55 all-star appearances for the first team. That's what you would think about it the last 21 years. It's probably the LeBron draft. It is 55 all-star games. LeBron had 21. Wade had 13. Bosh had 11. Carmelo Anthony had 10. Kirk Heinrich, he didn't make an all-star team. But the second team got one.

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Yeah, Tyrese was set. After game three, we weren't playing fast enough, and you could see him in the first quarter rebounding the ball and running himself. He had freaking 12 boards in this game. You don't see 12 boards from Tyrese Halliburton very often. The next highest Indiana pacer was at five boards. So he was set. I'm running this thing every single time, whether it's a make or miss.

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12-13 was Anthony Davis with 10, Damian Lillard with 9, Bradley Beal with 3, Dion Waiters and Harrison Barnes. They didn't make it. Although he got a second team appearance. Andre Drummond had a couple all-star appearances. We'll wrap up the top five teams here. 11-12.

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was uh the third place one but they got some second teamers in there so they get the head nod over uh 07 08 11 12 had 20 all-star games kairi 9 kawaii 6 clay 5 so you get more of those i'm sure uh to wrap up the team ricky rubio kenneth farid and somehow iman shumpert and brandon knight all made the all first team just because of a tie in voting and brandon knight He almost made an All-Star game.

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It got kind of close. We were talking in the NBA TV days during the starters. Brandon Knight? He was in Milwaukee Buck. He was riding with Giannis. Yeah, it was a debate. Brandon Knight almost made it. Second team, Isaiah Thomas had two All-Star appearances. 07-08, 20 All-Star games. This is an interesting one because it's heavy, Kevin Durant. Durant 15. Horford, five. That wraps it up.

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Jeff Green, Luis Scola, Al Thornton did not make it. Al Thornton, wow. The second team had none, but they had a great name. Jamario Moon. And to wrap up the top five, 15-16, got 17 all-star appearances that are just going to go up because Jokic has seven, Katt has five, Booker has four, Porzingis has one. Porzingis could be a one-and-done guy, maybe. Absolutely. Probably. Probably.

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And Jaleel Okafor, he had zero. Second team, D'Angelo Russell, he got one. All right, so let's get to the bad ones over the last 21 years. Six had single digits on their first team. So the first team from the 16-17 year just had seven All-Star games, and it's all Embiid. Embiid had seven. That's it. He missed his first two seasons.

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Then he had 31 games where he didn't make it the first three seasons of his career. Then seven straight All-Star games. So just a unique career. We'll see if he makes some more. Dario Saric, Buddy Heald, Willie Hernan Gomez, and Malcolm Brogdon did not make All-Star games, although Malcolm Brogdon did win a six-man of the year.

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I guess it's the draft from two years prior because he was drafted earlier. No, I shouldn't say that. He was just lumped in. You're right, you're right. He was the guy. You're right. That was his rookie season, but he sat out two years. The second team, for some reason, the second team that year was way more stacked.

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I don't remember why the voting went this way, but Jalen Brown, he was on the second team. Brandon Ingram was on the second team. And Jamal Murray was on the second team, who hasn't made an all-star game. But Brown's made four. Ingram has made one. So, yeah. I don't know. Go back to the voting. Why did that happen?

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Why were Sarich Heald, Willie Hernan Gomez voted over Jalen Brown and Brandon Ingram?

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You could hear the broadcaster say, whoa, how did they do that off a make? They would run, led by that guy, rebounds and going. His shot type... you usually think, okay, this guy's going to splash threes. He did that, but he hit more twos than threes. I thought the variety was very nice.

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So that's why, I guess. I guess so. Just mentioned this next team here in 2000, going way back. Dan Land doing the research way back. There were six All-Star games in 2000. This is an interesting one because... The second team, nearly as many as the first. The first team, Steve Francis had three. Elton Brandon had two all-star appearances. Wally Zerbiak had one. Andre Miller had zero.

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Lamar Odom had zero. Although he just went to Trump's crypto dinner, so he's got lots of money going on, I guess. He did all right. The second team, nearly as many as the first, as I said, five all-star games from Sean Marion had four, and Metta World Peace on the second team. He had one as well.

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Let's get to the four all-rookie teams since 2000 that have had under four and a half total all-star appearances. Now, this one is going to change, I assume. This is the most recent one. In 2020, we got four all-star appearances for Zion and Ja Morant combined. You assume that that's going to go up?

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Right. Yeah, Morant more likely than Zion, I assume. But who knows?

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Yeah. Kendrick Nunn, Eric Paschal, and Brandon Clark round out the first game.

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I don't think so. unless Kendrick Nunn makes the Panathinaikos Euro League. That's where he's playing. I think so. I think he's definitely playing in Greece. Tyler Hero's on the second team. He made one. So they kind of technically have five. Anyway, moving on, only two all-star appearances for a first team in that one that you mentioned, Trey, that 13 draft. So 13-14, Victor Oladipo had two.

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then none from the rest of the first all-star, or the first all-rookie team, I should say. Michael Carter-Williams wins Rookie of the Year, but he had zero all-star appearances. Trey Burke, Tim Hardaway Jr., and Mason Plumlee round out the first team, while Yannis Adegumbo was on the second team. Nine all-star appearances for that guy.

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So maybe we're going to have somebody on the second team, like a Matas Buzelos turning to Yannis Adegumbo. Probably not.

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He got into the mid-range, and then he was getting to the rim with beautiful little layups, sticking his butt out. There were times when the next throws weren't good enough, and he was getting a little too close to the rim too easily. But six twos versus five threes, just a great variety in terms of the shots. And then those turnovers... Zero freaking turnovers. You look at the regular season.

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Work that up, man. Work that proteína up. 14-15. That's an interesting one because there was only one all-star appearance for that first team. That was the Andrew Wiggins draft in 14. Nikola Mirotic, New Orleans Noel, Alfred Payton, Jordan Clarkson. They didn't make one. Only Andrew Wiggins with that one all-star appearance.

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Although the second team has Zach Levine on it, who has two all-star appearances.

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And another all-rookie team that just had one all-star appearance from both teams, it's 0-1. Kenyon Martin had one all-star appearance. Mike Miller won rookie of the year and sixth man of the year once, but zero all-star appearances. Mark Jackson, Darius Miles, and Morris Peterson. Round out the first team. Second team at zero. All-star appearances.

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Yeah. Mark Jackson's still working on Philadelphia 76ers broadcasts. I know it's the big guy because they go to the studio and he's there standing up. They do the stand up. He's a monster beside another guy who's very small. So I know it's the big guy. Anyway, here's a couple interesting all-rookie teams. There's MVPs on the second teams. 2009-2010, that's Steph Curry's 11 All-Star appearances.

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He finished on the first All-Rookie team along with Darren Collison, Taj Gibson, Brandon Jennings, and Tyreek Evans, who won Rookie of the Year but never appeared in an All-Star game. So that's all Curry with 11 All-Star appearances. Then on the second team in 2010, James Harden. 11 all-star appearances, MVP, 75th anniversary team, all that. So you got an MVP on the second team.

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Same thing happened in 2019 recently. First team, the numbers are only going to get higher because that was Luka, Trey,

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jaron jackson jr five four and two all-star appearances for those guys along with deandre ayton and marvin bagley then you got shay coming from the second team coming from the rope yeah he made the second team with the clippers he's got three all-star appearances and a freaking mvp brunson didn't make either of the teams he's in that draft as well multiple time all-star yeah He did not.

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That second team was interesting because it's Shea, Colin Sexton, Landry Schammett, Mitchell Robinson. Lots of guys still playing.

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And there's another eight all-rookie teams. I didn't mention that number. I mean, we can go through them if you want to hear some names. But they finished way higher than this four-and-a-half all-star appearance number that we're throwing out on these 10 guys.

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Yeah, after doing the analysis of the last 21 years, only four here that are under four and a half in terms of all-star appearances. Only four of the 21. But, you know, it can happen. It's all about these 10 guys. It's possible.

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This is an extension of the regular season. There's four superstars that had nine assists or more throughout the regular season. Trey Young, he also had 4.7 turnovers throughout the regular season. Nikola Jokic, he had 3.3 turnovers throughout the regular season. Cade Cunningham, he had 4.4 turnovers throughout the regular season. Tyrese Halbern, he had 1.6 turnovers throughout the regular season.

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Yeah, I'm doing... That'll be... Yeah, you don't get a lot from the second team, but they can give you a little boost, that's for sure. I mean, Matas Bozalis, Donovan Klingin is definitely a possibility. I think Donovan Klingin is definitely a possibility.

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More so are coming from that first team of Stephon Kassel, Zach Eady, Zachary Rissache, Alex Sarr, Jalen Wells. But what do you think of Trey?

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Yeah, but you know, there's some, like I'm saying, some random names from the last 21 years where you just see a guy come out of nowhere that we're not seeing right now. Of course. You know, that made second teams for some reason. I mean, Bob Carrington, who knows?

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I mean, I definitely could. There's some randos that are interesting. I always find the ones that guys didn't make an all-star appearance, but they made an all-NBA appearance. Like Andrew Bogut on the 06 team finished on the first team with Chris Paul. Darren Williams made all the all-star appearances. Boga didn't get one. But he made an all-NBA team. Danny Granger on the second team.

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Just seen in Indiana. Or random ones like the 2011 all-rookie teams. Great guys on the first team. Blake Griffin, John Wall, the Marcus Cousins. And then you get a Paul George on the second team. Nine all-star appearances for that guy. Maybe we get one of those. Maybe we get one of those. I was looking to see if there is a... A second team that had more all-star appearances than the first team?

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Yeah, it got close. Kevin Love and Marc Gasol were on a second team. They had eight between them, but they're on the same draft year as Westbrook and Derrick Rose, so that ain't going to happen.

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That's a good question. Oh, yeah, you're right. That happened. Yeah, that did.

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He didn't play much in his rookie year, right? So that's that. Joe Johnson was another good one. Seven all-star appearances on a second team. He almost didn't make the all-rookie second team. He was tied for the final spot in voting with Vladimir Radmanovich. You don't see that too often.

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He keeps them low. And in this one, he was just preserving that ball. I guess the only turnover would be handing the ball to dad after the game. I mean, that was for dad, I guess. But the guy had just a variety. He was set on making this about the Indiana Pacers and how they play ball. So it started with him. And we'll always overlook. I know you mentioned him, Trey.

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Yeah, he was tied in terms of voting. He barely made the second team. Barely made the second team, but he made it.

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Yeah, man, some of us picked Brandon Knight as an all-star.

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It was with the Milwaukee Bucks. So give me some numbers there. I remember. Okay.

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The next year, when it was the 14-15 year, he played 50 games for them, so he played until the All-Star game. He averaged 17.8.

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That's a fun list. They won more games that year. They finished 500. And there was some weird guard positions that got All-Star game. It was weird types of players that got voted to the All-Star game.

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Going to bat for them. Yeah, that 15 year, that was the year we got four Atlanta Hawks. So Kyle Korver made it, if we're talking guards. Jeff Teague made it. So I think Brandon and I was a debate. Yeah. We were like, we don't need that many Hawks. Put Brandon Knight in. John Wall and Kyle Lowry started that year.

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Yeah, the Bargnani all-rookie teams are sort of interesting because this is 07, led by two Portland Trailblazers, Marcus Aldridge and Brandon Roy. And then you had two Raptors also on the first team, and Andre Bargnani and Jorge Garbajosa.

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Yeah, they had six guys on that all-rookie, the first team. Weird year, but to see two guys from two different teams. You don't see that very often. And then you had a Rondo and a Millsap on the second team. So they had lots of All-Stars. Lots of All-Stars. Good year for that one.

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That was close. It's sort of like Chris Epps Porzingis-esque. He started that season really, really well. Chris Epps started his season really well in New York. That was his All-Star appearance. Then he got hurt. Bargnani also got hurt.

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Ahead of his time. We were remaking... He was. He was ahead of his time.

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We'll always overlook Pascal Siakam a little bit. He's that guy. But I'm glad you mentioned him off the top because that guy dropped 30. He just keeps going. He just keeps going. It's the quietest 30. It is. It's so quiet.

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Yeah, really fun. Really fun. Well, Garbo Hosa. Garbo Hosa, yeah.

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I mean, it's fun to see Emeka Okafor again. Nice one. The guy who won Rookie of the Year never made an All-Star game, unfortunately. It's a fun name, though. Al Jefferson. Okay, now I'm just going to go through names. Al Jefferson, an all-NBA appearance, but never an All-Star. One of those guys. That's about it in terms of names.

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Yeah, Bagley got there, especially. I will say the 18 team is interesting. Tatum, Donovan Mitchell, Ben Simmons, Markkinen.

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Markanen, yeah, I kind of just forgot about that, that he was a good rookie, I guess. I felt like he came on later.

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Ah, he sat out. And then Kuzma. That was a weird one. As the fifth guy on that team. Just a weird team. Weird team.

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I feel like Minnesota's got a good shot. I know. One of our fans, it wasn't Dan Land, but somebody mentioned, did you see Minnesota last year after they won their game against Dallas in the conference finals? They just kind of played dead the game after that. So they're done. But that was different. I mean, they won the fourth game to go down 3-1. Then they lost game five.

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So I think this is different in that they won earlier in the series. They won game three. It's different.

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Thanks for joining us. And remember, as the late, great Bill Walton used to say, it's not where you've been, it's where you are.

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It's just more like storylines. He doesn't get the storylines. I mean, he's been awesome, of course, but more storylines about Nismith's injury, Nembhard doing what he did in Game 1. Even Miles Turner talk. Benedict Matherin we'll get to in this game. Just this game. But there's more talk. Pascal just kind of gets overlooked. He was freaking awesome.

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And he just does it quarter by quarter by quarter, right? The first quarter, you know, he'll pick his spots. There's somebody smaller than him. He'll go at him. He'll do the right thing. And he liked to go at Carl Anthony Townsend in this one for sure.

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Yeah, when Bridges has those picks coming at him, he's a trailer, right? He doesn't fight over the pick. He likes to just sort of play it by ear. He's a little bit behind, and he'll get there, but Halliburton got so much space, and so when he's playing fast, it hurts them.

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I would say Deuce McBride sitting on the bench is way better at fighting over picks and would have been utilized more, especially the bad thing for Bridges is that he didn't hit shots in that fourth quarter when they were calling plays for him. They were asking for it. Now, he's had moments throughout this postseason where he comes through in the fourth quarters on both ends.

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But with Halliburton's speed in this one, yeah, he looked, he was behind. So they're always behind in the fourth quarter. It's like the Knicks are just behind every freaking play defensively.

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No. If we didn't know that the guy got hurt, you'd watch him and say, okay, he's playing basketball. Absolutely not. No worries about it. I don't know if he talked to Rick, but Rick helped out this Indiana Pacers team. I just want to give a little – I'm just trying to segue to Rick Carlisle here. I think Rick Carlisle deserves some credit here.

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He made the small, tiny adjustments pretty quickly in this one. Knicks went small. They went with Achua. Pacers matched it immediately. Then you saw Chua to the bench. No more of him the rest of the game. Carl Anthony Towns, the guy was balling. He was playing very well. He was scoring. He kept going left. He scored 24 points. They decided, all right, Pascal Siakam can stop him.

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We got to put Pascal on him. Third quarter, that worked. Good move by Rick Carlisle. Rick Carlisle, I think, just was smart in every little thing that he was doing. Also, defensively, we weren't going enough at Cat. Here comes Miles. Here comes Siakam. Here comes even a guard. They were just putting him –

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in any sort of action and that helped out dramatically if there was a guy who was hurt i guess it was carl kept grabbing on his knee and that's an excuse i guess at this point but you know it is bothering him there's no doubt about that he banged it there near the end of the game oh my god uh and then ben mathren gave him a little spark finally showed up to the conference finals this guy had a really good regular season but has been brutal in the playoffs

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Well, just Benedict Matherin scoring 20 points in 12 minutes and 29 seconds. Now the fewest minutes for a 20 point game in NBA history. It's just those random stats. And just to see it over Leon Poe, 14 minutes and 39 seconds in game two of the NBA finals. I'm also laughing because, yeah, Benedict Matherin, it took him 11 free throws at the line. Yeah, four of them were sort of in garbage time.

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Yeah. uh to get there and if it's them against okc in the finals there will be a storyline of if he is sga's daddy of being also a free throw merchant to some degree a little bit i mean that's that'll be worse than the battle of the cousins if they go mathren versus sga canadians

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Yeah, shout out to Rick for playing him a minimal amount of minutes, playing Ben Shepard more off the bench. It's surprising that we're seeing Ben Shepard this much now at this point of the season. But yeah, Rick's playing the numbers correctly. And then when you got to go small, Obi Toppin is jumping in there.

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And again, he's the guy who made Precious Achua go to the bench and not come back because they're playing so freaking well. Everybody. They played five guys off the bench in this game. You just wouldn't think that in a playoff game, unless you're the OKC Thunder, who they'll see in a week, it sure feels like.

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But yeah, they have to clean up that and then they just got to get some of these guys off the bench or even Ant or Randall in the second half. They got to hit shots. Nobody did anything in the second half.

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Leider konnten wir nicht sagen, wie laut es heute Abend in der OKC war, weil wir in einer Bar mit keinem Audio waren. Ja. Well, we had audio.

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We heard them all tonight. It was like a wedding DJ, wasn't it? A little bit.

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Oh yeah, okay, we heard that. Maybe during the third quarter run from OKC. Always weird to watch a game with no audio. I don't mind it at times, though. You have to really tap into your other senses. Mostly vision. Vision is the main one that you're tapping into.

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We have no idea what Mark Dagnall was saying. These guys are talking. I did see some people complaining about the ESPN audio. I don't know what was happening. Maybe they had their mixes wrong or something like that again.

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Instead of just X's and O's, it was like the actual motion of the shot of the player. I guess that was cool. So there was a whole second feed, insight feed, I guess. The insight cast. Was this Legler and Kurt Goldsberry? Okay. Maybe that was better. If the audio was better on that one. Those guys are smart. What else you got from this?

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Peace, man. We're here to talk about tonight's game, one of the Western Conference Finals. Thanks for joining us live on YouTube.

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I mean, we literally just like to make this a competitive series. They're going to have to hit some shots and maybe take care of the ball. Because I used to think about Randall. Like Randall did. He was keeping them in it once again or had them in the lead in the first half.

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He had five threes. Then he was like pump faking threes in the corner that Hartenstein had to commit to. Putting it on the ground, getting to the line. He was good until he wasn't. He disappeared in the second half.

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Some of those were like, it was sort of too late. But I guess besides keep... Take care of the ball and hit some threes. Is there anything else you're seeing here from Minnesota? Or I guess what I'm getting at is, what you saw after 48 minutes, are you like, ooh, this could be a quick series. And they're just outclassed this team. They scored 88 points.

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Take a screen grab right now. And if you're into feet, this is a good one for you. Yeah, these are free. We can do some crazy feet stuff. Hit the like button, subscribe, podcast listeners, five-star ratings and reviews. If you're listening to the podcast, come on over. Check out the YouTube video. We literally have three guys just lying down in a bed because we

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Looney Tunes' character you might be thinking of? Maybe with the steak? Could it be Spike? Who's Spike? The dog in Tom and Jerry's sketches. Okay.

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Your mind is bouncing around. You just went from...

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Ich bin in den Raum gegangen und habe gemerkt, dass es nicht genug Raum gibt, um uns normal zu sehen. Also hier sind wir. Aber wir sprechen über Game 1, wie ich gesagt habe. Die Thunder haben die Wolves 114-88 gewonnen. In Game 1 der Western Conference Finals. Auf der Seite von einer 31,9-Assist-Performance von Shea Gildas Alexander. Sie waren bei vier Punkten im Halbzeit-Task.

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Gibt es irgendwelche kurzen Noten von einem sehr lustigen Spiel? Zumindest von uns, von denen wir es gesehen haben. Okay, na gut. Von der Bier-Authorität.

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Du siehst aus wie mein Onkel Chris. Und dann habe ich gesagt, oh, ist er ein cooler Onkel? Sie sagt, ja, ich stehe nicht mit ihm in Kontakt, aber er ist cool. Ich sage, das ist gut. Und dann sagt sie, er lebt in Atlanta. Und dann waren wir alle so, was? Ich lebe in Atlanta. Am I your uncle? I'm Uncle Chris.

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The best part of our viewing experience. Dave DeFore ordering hummus. Dave DeFore ordering hummus. NBA Daily and then took down a plate of hummus and then ordered fish and chips. Look, he's coming from the West Coast. Hadn't had a lot to eat.

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I guess that was the appetizer. The plate of hummus.

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Er war auch im Kuddel-Modus. Sie waren im Film. Und er lag so auf dem Boden. Mal sehen, was Marc sagen muss. Er war so, oh ja, lass uns das sehen. Run that back, Marc. Oh ja, nice play. I guess we can defend that better. Yeah, he was chill. Oh, things are falling apart now. And my final note was Jimmy Goldstein was there. Jimmy was there. He was dressed in all white from what I could tell.

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Crowd was wearing white because they were wearing the white t-shirts. Do you think he planned that?

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You think they leaned into that a little too much?

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Aber OKC hat sie in der zweiten Halbzeit 70-40 gewonnen. Hey, Kumpel. Ich glaube, ich muss deine Gesichter sehen. 70-40-Taste. O.K.C. hat die Minnesota Terminals geschlossen. Ich muss die Frontdesk anrufen. Ich muss ihnen sagen, J.D.

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Okay, ich wundere, vielleicht sind sie so, okay, sie machen das alles raus in Game 1. Vielleicht. Weißt du, was ich meine? Okay, jetzt weiß jeder, dass sie ihre Cousins sind. Es ist vorbei. Okay, na gut, das war Game 1. Das war alles, was ich hatte. Und, äh, du weißt, es wurde in einem Blutdruck. Es war entzündend da für eine gute drei Viertel oder so, aber OKC gewinnt 114 88. Okay, guffy.

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Lass mich meine Augen für einen Moment schließen.

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It has been a long day. We did a podcast already today. Exactly. In another state. In another state. Same time zone. When I was Uncle Chris.

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Wait, you want good news first or bad news first? Yeah, thanks for joining us. And remember... Unter den Koffern? Das ist Jadies Bett.

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None of us showered when we arrived here. We went straight and got tacos. Then we went to a bar to watch the game. And then we came right back here to JD's bed. What are we doing?

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Yeah. 0-7 Nas Reed. From deep. 1-11 from the game. Di Vincenzo. 3-12 from deep. 3-14 from the floor. And then Nikhil Alexander Walker. 2-9 from deep. 3-11 from the field. That's their three main bench guys. Das gab ihnen nichts. Jalen Clark. Jalen Clark war arguably der beste Benchplayer heute Abend. Etwas, was du nie hören willst, wenn du ein Wolf bist, denke ich nicht.

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Hier in Game 1 der Western Conference Finals. Er hat frühe Minuten bekommen und ihm ein bisschen was gegeben. Aber es war einfach so, dass diese Jungs keinen Schuss schießen konnten. Und wir haben darüber gesprochen, dass diese Schüsse in der Serie kommen. Diese Schüsse werden da sein. Die Thunder erlauben diese 3s. Sie erlauben diese Corner 3s.

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Und diese Jungs können für die Mehrheit dieses Spiels keinen Schuss schießen.

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Ja, es gab diesen Streit in der zweiten Halbzeit, wo J-Dubs Jumper begonnen haben zu fallen. SGA begann, sich etwas komfortabler von der Mittellinie zu machen. Kenrich Williams. Back to back Jack. Shout out to John Schumann. Kenrich Williams got into this game early, late in the first quarter. And then we saw him in the second half and he hit a couple of shots that sort of unlocked some things.

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Guten Abend, liebe Welt, und willkommen zum No-Dunks-Podcast, präsentiert von Amazon Prime. It's Tuesday night. Late Tuesday night. May 20th, 2025. I'm J.E. Skeets coming to you from a tiny ass hotel room in New York City from a bed and alongside me, as always, it's Tass Mellis.

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And then their offense started to roll. And yeah, just Minnesota continually all night. I mean, just shot an absolute abysmal 34.9%. And that was bumped up a little bit, sort of in garbage time a little bit at the end. It was like, it was sub 34% for a majority of the competitive part of this game.

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Their points were coming at the free throw line because of him. And whether those were some questionable calls, yes, there were. He got Gobert on sort of like a pump fake and jumped into him. That was one of his first trips to the line. There was another one where he initiated all the contact. He got the call. Like, there was a handful of them. You remember those ones.

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There's other ones where he's getting fouled because guys can't stay in front of him. Oh, yeah. So it's like, you know, it plays tricks on your mind at times. But, yeah, he still finished with 31-9-5. I mean...

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Ja, ähm, ich wollte dich fragen, ob die Thunder-Trio, also die drei Jungs, die alle in der zweiten Halbzeit steigen, richtig? Wie J-Dub, sechs Punkte in der ersten Halbzeit, 13 in der zweiten Halbzeit. Chet Holmgren, zwei Punkte in der ersten Halbzeit, 13 in der zweiten Halbzeit. Und dann SGA, 11 Punkte, viele von denen sind auf der Linie in der ersten Halbzeit, 20 in der zweiten Halbzeit.

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Next to Tass there, it's the bearded one, my top shot hot boy, Trey Kirby.

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Also, wenn du sie ranken musst, oder wenn du einen von ihnen wählen musst, wer dich am meisten beeindruckt, wie der Umgang von den ersten 24 Minuten bis zur zweiten 24 Minuten. Ich meine, sie sind alle großartig, aber ist es, war es Chad?

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Yeah, those back-to-back dunks, that's when the game started getting out of control for the Wolves.

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And making this type of magic happen, you've never seen it before done on an NBA podcast. We've got JD and we have Ash. Say hello, gentlemen. Yeah. Here we are. It's all we could find. It was like John Lennon and Yoko Ono.

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Also in der Serie, Trey, ich weiß, dass du es in unserer Vorlesung gesprochen hast. Wir haben darüber gesprochen. Es fühlt sich so an, als hätte jeder darüber gesprochen. Einer der großen Kräfte für die Wolves in dieser Serie ist, diese Übergänge zu verringern. Ja, das ist offensichtlich.

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Besonders die, die in der Rückseite sind und natürlich nur OKC-Runden haben, weil sie diesen unglaublichen Balldruck haben. Aber ich glaube, es gab 17 Übergänge, viele Liveball-Übergänge. A lot resulting in easy OKC points going the other way. Some that they even missed for being honest and maybe took a second chance.

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And maybe it breaks for you in the playoffs, and maybe you're not the injured team and whatever.

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Hello. There he is, here we are. Do we sound okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Had a false start there on YouTube. For some reason, we sounded like an 8-bit video game. Not in a good way. No. It was very distorted. We have no idea why. YouTube's been very strange the last couple weeks. JD, is that fair to say? Fair to say. Fair to say. I'm not sure what's going on, but we seem to be okay right now.

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Similar to what happened with the Wolves last year? They make a move, I mean, a lot of it for the financial reasons, the Randall-Kapp move. Now, it's working out really well for them, but that's maybe where the Cavs are at here because I think it's important to point this out because we always just say it, second-apron team, uh-oh, what does that mean? That sucks.

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Making your team better around the fringes calves wouldn't be able to sign any free agents for more than the minimum They can't make trades that aggregate salary or take on more money than sent out They can't do sign and trades with their free agents and they can't use cash and trades to incentivize salary dumps Those are your salary your second apron, you know rules that limit you handcuff you as an organization So yeah, I think 218 million on the books next year

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Yes, and a guy with an attitude and a bit of a dog because my issue with them is Garland is not that, Allen is not that, and Mobley, I'm sorry, is not that. I don't know if he will be that defensively, Mitchell is, but he's their superstar. And I would like to have a couple other guys that are doing the dirty work and bring that attitude.

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And I think they need that on the roster, either in the starting lineup or coming off the bench. Because, again, you know my opinions on Hunter. He was never going to be that guy.

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He got a chance there in the second half of last night's game. He did hit a couple threes. That was his best game of the series. Yeah, and he was trying to get the arena. You're right. I was like, okay, he's at least trying to get the team and the arena back in. And then Halliburton packed him and went the other way. Yeah, yeah. And this game got very close.

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I guess it was Mitchell hitting an insane three, right? And then drew a foul in the corner. Three shots, or on the side at least. And that's where he missed all three of them.

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And you're like, oh, what if he had hit those, or two of them even.

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Okay. Could the Lakers be a team maybe interested in Jared Allen? They're always looking for a big man, big center. That's a possibility. I don't know. Are they just going to offer what they offered for Mark Williams?

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All right. We're live. Do us a favor. Do it for JD. He needs it right now. Hit the like button. Subscribe to No Dunks on YouTube. Podcast listeners, you're fine. You're fine. He goes back. He cones through it. He makes it so crystal clear. Perfect. So you're good. You should leave us a five-star rating and review. All right. Fun one here lined up for you today.

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yeah it's just a big time question mark in the playoffs yeah and then as for garland i mean a team that always comes up someone that could use some scoring in the backcourt is the orlando magic i don't know what type of deal you're looking at there anthony black maybe as the piece and uh picks of some sort but i don't know it's uh we can we can explore that in the offseason yeah lots of time to do that i don't mind jonathan isaac maybe as well okay uh anything else from this game

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And I know he was saying, oh, I hit it. You know, it was bang, bang. It was close. Did it hit the backboard and all that? Could have been a goaltending. Yeah. But the point is, we shouldn't even been arguing about that. It should have been a fast break dunk or layup easily, but... He slowed down and the Pacers, yeah, they fought. Two guys back. That was awesome. Yeah, that's a great point.

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Turner was really good in this game. He was awesome this whole series.

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Yeah, and you said even coming in, like we were talking like, okay, Mobley and Allen, you know. They got to win that matchup. The bigs against Siakam and Turner. They didn't come close. They had moments. Mowgli had moments. But overall, you're easily going with Siakam and Turner goes over those two guys. How many conference finals is this going to be for Siakam? After just saying his name.

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I mean, did he make more than one with the Raps? Just the one. Just the one. Oh, 2016? Was he part of that cast? I can't remember when he came.

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It felt like even they were like, what are you doing, Mitchell? It looked early. Why are you slowing down? Why are you putting us in the position to maybe have to call goaltending? We're not going to call it. We're not going to call it. Any other random notes?

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On today's show, we'll discuss Jason Tatum's surgery and what it means for the Celtics and honestly for the rest of the NBA moving forward. The Portland Trailblazers are for sale. You guys think we got enough money? Hey. What do you got?

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Like, did he look like Abe Lincoln? Like, I'm not. Like, he had, like, the...

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I'll give the Cavs credit for that, you know, because I was just whining about it the other day when the home team, they give their crowd like white shirts and then the road team is wearing a white jersey. Cavs did it right last night, at least. Did it right. They were all wearing black shirts, whatever the handout was, and then they were in their black jerseys. It looked better. It did.

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And then, okay, see, they take it next level. We got the blues and the whites. That's right.

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Maybe, so he could blend in. Yeah. Do it for Abe. That'll be their rallying cry next. Do it for Abe. Put it on the t-shirt. Well, they had, what did they have earlier today? In the season, excuse me, they had the Frogs. That was an eternity ago. But remember the frog mascot that would come out and dance with them? Am I crazy right now? Look it up. Look up Cavalier's frog.

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I swear to God that happened when they were on their 15-game win streak. Moon frog? No, no, no, that's moon dog. No, there was like for some reason a frog, and I don't even know how it started, but there was like an inflatable mascot frog like dancing with them when they were, you know. Riding high.

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We got it. The Cavs Frog, also known as Froggy, is a viral internet sensation that became a good luck charm for the Cavaliers. She is a person dressed in an inflatable frog costume who's been celebrating the victories outside of the field house, I guess. It took off, yes. This was, this season, confirmed. Okay, I'm not crazy. Good.

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good stuff okay let's go to uh a fantastic pivotal game five in okc sga scores 31 thunder beat the nuggets 112 105 they take the 3-2 lead in the western conference semifinals came down to obviously the fourth quarter once again here and it was okc making the big plays the ball movement was there the shot making was there And, I mean, just the nerves were a little bit better.

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And it was Jokic versus the rest of the Thunder, it felt like, once again.

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He was on that heater at the start of the third quarter. My God, he hit that tough fadeaway jumper where Dort was in his shorts. Yep. It was like, uh-oh, this is the Jamal game. But then he cooled off. He couldn't hit a three as the game went on. But sorry, jump in there.

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Denver went up 12 with five minutes to go in the third quarter. And for the remainder of the game, Jokic, he did his part. He went six for nine, had 17 points, and the rest of the Nuggets, TK, went two for 24. Two for 24. I can remember one Jamal Bucket. I'm struggling to remember the other one, but man, that's bad because Jokic was doing everything else. But holy... Two for 24 in a pivotal game.

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But first, the basketball remains great. We'll start in the Eastern Conference, and we'll move to that Game 5 thriller between the Thunder and Nuggets in a little bit. But the Pacers' task, eliminated the Cavs, 114-105. They advance back to the Eastern Conference Finals. No fluke!

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That's the only one I can remember from that stretch, but... Somebody else hit one. Maybe it was Gordon, whatever. I'm not sure. But it was Jokic and it was no help from these other guys.

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says Indiana and their fans Cleveland stormed out to a big lead looked really good there but in the second quarter it was Tyrese Halliburton catching fire hit five threes in that quarter and it was a reasonable score at halftime and then they did their damage in the second half and eliminate the Cavs which I know we can get into and sort of talk about their offseason and whether they got to make you know big changes but we should start with the Pacers here moving on

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It's impressive. Huge, like not only big shot making, but you brought up one of them, that Dort saving the ball in the corner. Just huge hustle plays from a lot of their guys. And maybe that part of it that is like that Dagnall can go to his bench a little bit more. Can these guys are a little more rested and have a little more juice late in the game?

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Because Dort saving the ball in the corner after that missed SGA3, that was big. Hartenstein tipped in an offensive rebound off a Chet jumper that fell short. Jokic mistimed it, got a little too much under the rim, but Hartenstein was right there. And then Holmgren blocking a Murray floater attempt. Just awesome weak side help after...

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Murray finally got by Dort, you know, and sort of was like, wow, he's maybe going to like actually get to the rim here on him. Nope. Chet denied him. So those were huge. And yeah, the Jokic man, he did everything offensively, but two of those Dort threes, they were gassed Jokic, not, and part of it's the game plan. I get it. Yeah. Dort hasn't been able to hit a three all series. No.

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So it's like, leave him. But like the first Dort moon ball three was the one where like stopped Aaron Gordon at the rim and, It was like three or four thunder there. Maybe a foul, but it wasn't called. They come in semi-transition. Dort hits that first one. The second one, Jokic just left him wide open in the corner. Easy shot in rhythm for Dort.

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And then the third one, after a few couple empty possessions, I think it was Jalen Williams. He sort of attacked from the corner and sort of was going to the paint and... You know, Jokic is like coming over to help, but it gets caught in no man's land. Just gets kicked to Dorton. He hits it on the other side of the floor.

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So those were the three threes that like suddenly it was a one possession game with six minutes to go in regulation.

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Yeah, great decision. What a luxury, too, for Daniel and OKC to be like, well, is it Dort's night or Caruso's night? We know they're going to bring it defensively. They are at least going to have the energy. Which one of them is on? Which one of them is hitting their shot? And yeah, he called it right there.

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Look, Hartenstein and obviously Caruso have been huge. And if they go to the conference finals, if not to the finals, they're going to play a big part in that. Dort, too, like, I know Murray... Yeah, Murray caught fire there. That was the Murray flurry there in the third quarter, early in the third quarter.

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But for all the times we've seen the Murray-Jokic pick and roll, which does feel, a lot of the times, unstoppable, Dort is the one guy that can actually sort of stop it because he just fights his ass through and around screens. And he's fast as hell, and he's strong as hell. And yeah... You know, he's not above a good flop or two. I loved that we had a Jokic-Dort flop off there during the game.

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That was funny. But a lot of times when Dort wants to, that guy, man, he gets around a screen and stays with Murray. And that's sort of like, you've got to just put so much effort into it. That's how you stop it, or at least slow the Jokic-Murray two-man game up top there.

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I mean, all those threes. That stretch where he got three three-point attempts, and they were all good looks, but I think they were all short. The legs were going on him. He had a couple in the fourth even. You're like, he's open. He can hit that. He was clanking it. At least he was hitting the rim, unlike some of the other guys. A couple more air balls from Westbrook. Some bad ones.

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They basically played, say, 9 or 10, the Thunder do, where the Nuggets got three buckets from their bench. And would you say two of them were definitely in the first half?

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So was Payton Watson. And so I think Wes Brooks was that other bucket we were trying to remember. I think he had one at the rim, if I remember correctly. A little dump in.

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My one random note from this game, just because it was one of the weirder plays we've ever seen, was Jokic getting called for the offensive foul when he got tangled up with J. Will, big Jalen Williams. And like, you know, obviously he thought Jalen Williams was hooking him, but Jokic was sort of hooking Jalen Williams. And then he sort of like ran with him across the court.

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And then they were like, I guess we got to call something and we'll call it offensive foul. How do they call that offensive? Yeah, well, I think they were like, Because they got locked up. Both guys could have let go of it, of course. And I think they were like, okay, Jokic probably could bring his arms down if he wanted to here, and he's going to just run with them up. This guy is the MVP.

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He should get the benefit of the doubt. They should have called it earlier. Luckily, it didn't have an impact on really anything, thankfully. You're right. They could have called it early on Jalen Williams. They just let them stay there like this. And he ran 30 feet with the attach. That was hilarious. I guess we've got to call something here. Very weird.

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And if he did hit him, that is an illegal move. You can't use the ball as like a weapon or whatever. But again, I don't think we ever saw a good replay on whether he contacted his schnoz there. But his head did jerk back, so he either flinched really hard or he did get hit. But, yeah, Jokic got in there. Any other notes?

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Oh, well, the one that SGA hit where Murray was draped on him was pretty badass, too. The and one. And then that's when Jokic came down and, yeah, did the pirouette three. After a broken play, didn't that thing, like, get spit out to half court and he had to go track it down?

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splashes it doesn't even like hit anything amazing that was fun that was a fun game this is an amazing series i don't want this one to end and like thankfully this was our only series right now at least that was 2-2 now 3-2 okc and we go back to denver you think they got a you know a chance to get this back to okc and it goes seven like we were predicting there's a chance yeah denver at home there's a chance i'm yeah i'm feeling okc for sure though i mean that's

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Look, I think it's pretty simple. Somebody's got to hit shots on Denver to go along with Jokic. And this is always the case. When Jokic has 40 to 45 points, or if not more, in a playoff game, they tend to lose more than they win. It's not the recipe they want.

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They want him to have the 10 to 15 assists, because that means... He's always passing it, but that means guys are hitting shots that he's generating, these open looks. So... Yeah, you need a Michael Porter Jr. bounce back game or the good Westbrook game or the random Christian Brown hits a couple threes game. You know, like something like that. And of course it could happen. They're going home.

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On Thursday night. Yeah, it could. They're supposed to be good at home. Okay, see, to go back to something you were saying in the beginning, TK, it's almost like these are their reps, right? You know, like their experience here because they didn't have a lot of really close games during the regular season. They just waxed teams most of the times. Now here in the postseason, games are closer.

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They've had some bad game one, really bad, bad coaching decisions, a bit of a meltdown. But they're growing here as we go on, over the last two at least.

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All right, let's move to some NBA news here. It is official. Celtics star Jason Tatum suffered a torn right Achilles tendon during Monday night's playoff loss to the Knicks. Tatum has already undergone surgery, and an exact timetable for his return, not immediately clear. He's expected to make a full recovery. We love to see and hear that, but he could be out for a while here, Tass.

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An Achilles tear typically comes with a recovery timeline of 8 to 12 months. So we may not see Tatum at all next season. I know it maybe depends on how the Celtics season goes, but it's very possible we don't see him at all next year. Absolutely.

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You don't think the Celtics are taking a quote-unquote gap year next year?

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He's 34. He's starting to decline. He has a lot of years and money left. And you have guys, if you're the Celtics, that you feel probably confident in replacing him in his minutes. Obviously White and Pritchard. Yeah, the two of them together more than makes up for it. So that one to me, but I don't know what you're looking at in return. Trey's right.

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The big move is like, wow, it is trading Jalen Brown for pieces and obviously good players and maybe even picks that will help you sort of manage your books as you go on here and get very expensive because this is a second apron team. And you just take the down year and then Tatum hopefully comes back and is back to like nearly 100%, as close as he can get, in his prime, right?

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And then you sort of like start it over again. But that is drastic and he is a really good player and maybe he'll be even more elite without obviously Tatum there. But it's probably these other moves that it's the Drews, it's the Porzingis. Like you say Porzingis, but the guy can't stay healthy either. So it's becoming like, it's sort of Garland-like. It's like, yeah, they're great players.

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They're really good, but they're never there when we need them, unfortunately. Yeah.

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crazy how many notable injuries we've had just this postseason alone with now the Tatum injury here the torn Achilles Damian Lillard with the blood clots and the torn Achilles uh Curry with the hamstring strain that's obviously had a huge impact on what's going out going on out west I guess even Garland all the cast guys that we've already talked about Jimmy Butler did have a pelvic contusion he did miss a game here in the postseason John Morant hip contusion I mean

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He did, he did, he did. It's a lot of times. We see it time and time again. It's like, And I'm not saying it's like, who's the healthiest team wins? Because, like, look at last year. I mean, the Celtics weren't fully healthy. They were missing a key piece. But their star players, for the most part, were.

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And it plays a part in almost every championship it feels like, or it can, in terms of just staying healthy and keeping your core good through the postseason, which is not short. It's like two months long after a grueling regular season. But some of these are flukes, and some of these are just like... I mean, even the Tatum one, when you think about it, it's like... He was lunging for the ball.

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He's done it a million times. So what happened on this millionth time? Well, he's played a lot of games. I guess people say that. Has anyone played more than him since he came into the league? I don't think so. In terms of regular season and playoffs. But it's like, damn, it's just bad luck.

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Happens to the young guys, too. I guess Michael Porter Jr., too, is playing through a shoulder sprain. It's all bandaged up. So that is the playoffs, and that's postseason. Anything else on this, on the Celtics, on Tatum, what it means for the rest of the league? I mean, you've talked a little bit like, wow, what an opening here even more in the Eastern Conference. Yeah.

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You're right. You know, if you get it tonight because you sort of catch the Knicks sleeping, then suddenly you're back at Madison Square Garden. And it's like then the pressure almost starts to turn to them because it's like you got to close it out here. You don't want to go game seven in Boston. Yeah, you're right. It's not over. I just feel the way the Knicks are playing.

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to how the Celtics are playing, I like their chances to win one of three games, I guess.

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of a lot of these swing swing passes he's got to be the guy that starts the swinging as well yep uh other news the portland trailblazers are for sale the estate of former owner paul allen announced tuesday that it has begun a process to sell the franchise that is expected to bleed into the 25 26 season all proceeds from the sale will go toward philanthropy You know what I'm trying to say.

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Philanthropic is what I was trying to say. Endeavors, per Allen's wishes, the team announced. So, yeah, Paul Allen, co-founder of Microsoft, he purchased the Blazers for $70 million in 1988, and he passed in 2018 following the death. His estate has run this, headed by his sister, Jody Allen, but they're saying now, Tass, that they are looking to sell. Interesting.

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Phil Knight and Nike. That'd be cool. Yeah, I guess his son maybe. He's old. He's 87, I think Phil Knight is. But his son is with Nike. Yeah, whatever. It could be in the family here, obviously from the area. That's a possibility. Phil Knight did try and buy them a couple years ago with some real estate mogul, but that never happened.

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And actually probably good on the Blazers and the Trust to not sell at that time and just wait because Celtics are likely selling for, what, $6.1 billion?

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which does elevate all team values not i don't know if the blazers are going to go for that but you get my point here i think they're recently valued the blazers are about 3.5 billion so can you get 3.5 can you get four something like that you can sure maybe you can that's a quick check right from phil knight no problem simple math there oh do you think his signature is the nike check

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One series down, three to go, two potential closeouts tonight. Knicks at Celtics, 7 p.m. Eastern on TNT. So as we talked about, can the Knicks win this in five, or can Boston get it back to Madison Square Garden? Then we got the Warriors at Timberwolves at 9.30 on TNT. Minnesota leading 3-1. They can close out this series, and we know Steph Curry is not playing in Game 5.

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So two chances here to wrap up these series, and Minnesota go back to the Western Conference Finals, and the Knicks to go to their first Eastern Conference Finals in a very, very long time. That's in play tonight.

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Doesn't mean they're going to. Say they are. But you've covered your bases now. They can win.

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Okay, so you got Knicks, Wolves. Where are you going, Tash?

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Yeah, I'm sort of with you. Feels like they smell blood, that team. And the Wolves are like, they get to approach this game going, hey, let's just win this now. And then there's no Steph Curry coming back to hit like 10 threes on us. That's a good motivator. Let's just do it right now. So I'm going to go Celtics-Wolves. I'll take both home teams.

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I think Boston, I like that maybe win one for Tatum type of vibe from them tonight, and that crowd should be electric too behind that squad to maybe get it back there. So Knicks-Wolves, let's hear from you guys in the stream team, your predictions. We'll be back tomorrow to break down those games, get into the NBA news. Hopefully you'll join us then at 10 a.m. Eastern. Until then, Clipper Bros.

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Well, if the Knicks win, Siakam could call or text OG Ananobi, too.

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Yeah, especially right before his game. They might be wrapping up. He might be in one house. Hey, we made it. Are you good? Yeah, you make it, too. Where's your visor? Our commercial's on nonstop. You better make it. All right, we'll be back tomorrow morning, guys. Brace the day, people.

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I'm glad you brought up the first couple plays after the half at the start of the third quarter there, because out of the break, the Pacers failed to execute a play. Then they gave up a tough jumper to Mobley. He got two feet to the paint. Siakam was sticking with him. Mobley hit a hell of a shot. Then the Pacers turned the ball over, and then they let Garland—

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veer around this very soft pick and roll up top and he just went straight to the rim and laid it over the front of the rim. This is a guy who's obviously limited right now because of his toe. Timeout, Rick Carlisle, right away. I think it was 55 seconds into that second half. Nope, nope, nope, nope. We're not doing this. Get your head out of your ass. We can end this series right now.

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And you said it, TK. They came back with the energy. And Kenny Atkinson, after the game, he said, quote, the duration of their intensity, how long the pacers can go, they press full court, and then they run consistently all game. They never stop. It's hard to do. I give them a ton of credit for that. It's extreme ball pressure.

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And there was comparisons like, they do have the vibes of a college basketball team. We're a full-court pressing team. We have our identity and we're going to run, run, run, run, run. Usually in the playoffs, Tass, it's like... Team slows down, turns into a half-court set. Do you have the creators and the guys to get to the line? They're like, screw that.

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Let's just keep playing the way we've been playing since basically our defensive guys in Neesmith and Nembhard got back. Calendar flipped to 2025, and we got back to being the Pacers sort of of last year. And they just keep running this. They are on an unbelievable run right now. 42-16 since January 1st when you include the playoffs. These two great series for them. They're awesome.

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uh it worked now we can get into the injuries and all that for the cows but it played a part it absolutely like garland did you like was it at the start of the second half he's like he's like running around in circles to i don't know appear to like get feeling in his leg or his foot or something like that you know i think he was like running like us and you know

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Cup basketball, trying to get loose. He was limpy. Mitchell was limpy as well. We had Mobley. We had Hunter miss that one game. I guess Sam Merrill obviously missed game five of the next game. And those two main guys playing through, obviously, some pretty significant lower leg injuries. But they're out there. They're playing. And it still got very stagnant. And things were working at their best.

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It was a little bit more Mobley and Allen and the big guys playing the Pacers. And then they just sort of go away from that. And it turns into the... Ken Mitchell just carry us, and Garland just couldn't give them anything. I mean, him and Strews just combined garbage.

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For sure. I didn't think it took him out of too many plays this time, but he was doing it a lot still.

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Yeah, they're not tight enough or something. He's adjusting.

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The tie-on. I mean, they're big braids. It needs a stronger thing, almost, to keep them intact back there. Something to work on in the offseason. How about, I saw Ziller include this in his newsletter, before Game 5, because we heard Jared Greenberg reporting on TNT that Max Struess sent a group text to his teammates that said, quote, if you don't believe, don't show up to work.

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Yeah. It's like, I'm just going to sit at the computer and read cool articles.

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So yeah, Pacers, obviously we'll talk about them more as we learn who they'll be playing in the Eastern Conference Finals. It's looking like the Knicks. Can the Celtics make things interesting? We'll get into that. But do we want to talk a little bit about the Cavs? And what could be a fascinating offseason? Because they have a decision to make, right? They win 64 games.

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It felt like we were on a collision course this entire season, if we're being honest. Cavs, Celtics, Eastern Conference Finals. We've said it time and time again. They're two 60-win teams. But obviously that's not happening. They have a lot of money locked up in their star guys. Mitchell Garland, already on max deals.

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Mobley starts his next season, and because he won Defensive Player of the Year, it kicks up to 30% of the salary cap instead of 25%. You've got Jared Allen, DeAndre Hunter. They make starter money. Max Strews, $15 million. McCurl, $11 million.

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Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast, presented by Amazon Prime. It's Wednesday, May 14th, 2025. I'm Jay Skeets, still here in the Classic Factory, and alongside me, as always, Tass Mellis. Podcast listeners, this is definitely for you. Next to him, it's the bearded one, Matapsha Hotboy, Trey Kirby. Ayo. Ayo. And over yonder, Making the Magic Happen Super Producer, JD.

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Ty Jerome isn't under contract next season and there's some decisions but like what do you do if you're Cleveland here is it just like we were banged up we were injured let's not panic let's sort of keep the core together or did you see something where it's like this is maybe not going to work and maybe you move one of the main pieces

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Steady went with the Sam Cassell big balls dance, which he said he was thinking about. He was waiting to pull it out. It felt like the right moment.

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Yeah. What a play. And everything to happen to get us to that point. Yeah.

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amazing amazing games and like uh but at that point it was the third straight consecutive like insane playoff like we are just on one here and road teams generally coming through is that that's six straight road wins i know we'll get to the uh warriors beating the wolves because you got to go back to the warriors beat the rockets and what was one before that uh not the clippers not no no there was one more in there but anyway we're at six straight what a run here for the road teams anything else from this game

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120, 119 last night. They take the 2-0 lead in their Eastern Conference second round series. It was a real what the hell just happened. Once again with the Pacers. We saw it in the Bucs series and they do it again here in game two tasks. Somehow like just snatching this from the Cavs to take the 2-0 lead.

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Was it more annoying to listen to that game or a No Dunks podcast after a long weekend in Montreal? Just asking.

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Yeah, that's nice. Bone Thugs Cleveland. Going to commercial break early on that one. That was a good one. That's when the Cavs were feeling good. Up 32-15. I like that Rick Carlisle talking to Jared Greenberg in between, obviously, the first and second quarter when they're down big. Carlisle said, quote, this is the power of hard play. Sounds like cool lyrics.

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This is the power of hard play, pointing out how great the Cavs were and how sloppy Indiana was. Because Nembhard was fumbling the ball out of bounds. Turner, or excuse me, Siakam had one under his rim. We didn't even mention his name. I know he had some timely buckets, Siakam, but quiet games.

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Yeah. They had a couple traveling violations early in this game. It was Nembhard, it was McConnell. Miles Turner tried to throw a lob pass that even Obi Toppin couldn't go get. Like, it was way too high. Toppin couldn't throw a post pass. Like, it was bad first quarter from Indiana. That's why they were down huge.

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All right, any other notes, random notes, nothing else? I mean, you already mentioned Neesmith jumping over Mitchell there. What? You don't see that very often in an NBA game. And my only other note, because it gives me the shivers, there's a quick shot of Donovan Mitchell chewing on a towel. Now, I don't think he's a guy that chews on a towel, but he put it in his mouth.

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Gives me the creepy heebie-jeebies right now. Because he was putting on his warm-up. So I think he wanted to keep it there around his neck. So he put it in his mouth. But there's nothing that makes my skin crawl more than that. I've said this before. I just can't stand it.

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All right, well, let's move on to the other game from last night. Not as sexy, but the Warriors take game one from the Wolves 99-88 despite Steph Curry's hamstring injury. This one started hilariously. I guess it started hilariously and ended hilariously if you count the postgame press conference because Buddy healed. starts the game wearing the wrong shorts.

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In his defense, they look pretty damn similar to the correct shorts. I guess he had on the black and blue pair of shorts instead of the black and yellow sort of pinstripe pair of shorts or like striped at the bottom.

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Yeah, this is like a who cares. But obviously the Timberwolves bench, they notice it. Buddy's laughing. He's got to run back. They got to delay a game. I guess they had to use a timeout because of all that.

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So that started the game, and then after the game, it was the Buddy Heald and Jimmy Butler comedy hour in their postgame press conference. These guys were hilarious.

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Yeah, give them a podcast right now. But a lot happened in the game, Tass. And, I mean, Steph Curry limping off the court in the second quarter with a hamstring injury that we're going to wait on MRI results for. He's not going to play in the next game. We don't know when he'll probably return.

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Probably not. You know, because he's suddenly pulling back at it. He tries to sort of power through it. He even makes a shot and comes back, still holding on it, still holding on it. Suddenly they had to sub him out and he never returns.

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Wolves coach Chris Finch, he called out Ant after the game for his lack of energy. He said, quote, you're the leader of the team, and you've got to come out and set the tone. If your shot's not going, you still have to carry the energy. If I have to talk to guys about having the right energy coming into an opening second-round game, then we're not on the same page, end quote.

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But specifically calling out Ant on that one, like, hey, man, I don't care if you can't hit a three or you're not scoring inside right now. You've got to still bring that energy, and we follow you as the leader. He didn't think he did that in game one.

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And right now the schedule is basically every second night, right? Until maybe five or six or something like that?

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Strength in numbers for the Warriors back in those old days. Kerr played... Well, Kerr played 12 players. He actually tried to play 13 because Braxton Key did check in for a brief moment, but it was during that sort of confusion about who was taking the foul shot and who was subbing in and out, so Braxton Key came right back off.

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Never logged a single second of game one, but he was trying to play 13 guys, but... Yeah, Pat Spencer was awesome. Him and his mustache, rocking. Two steals, two shots he hit. Set a really nice screen that even opened up Buddy Heald for a corner three. Kaminga, we saw some decent moments here from Kaminga in this game, at least his best moments from this playoffs.

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And just like Looney and all these guys were contributing tasks. It's almost like Kerr, I think, you never want to see Kerr go down. Ever. Of course. He's a superstar. He's one of the greatest of all time. But I think a sicko like Steve Kerr does like the, oh, hey guys, can we do this? Can we get crazy here? Everybody want to play? Yeah, let's do it. And everybody played their part.

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And it's just the defense helped out by the Wolves not being able to hit a three. They missed their, what, first 16 three-pointers?

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They didn't hit a three until the third quarter, I think, like eight minutes ago. So that helped. But yeah, can they do it three more times, I guess, here with Curry or not?

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That is back-to-back games for the Wolves now where they could not hit a three to save their life. Now they won game five against the Lakers. What did they go? Seven for 47? What was it? I think you're right.

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Brutal, and this one was somehow even worse and didn't take as many as well, but only hitting five of 29 from deep. And Finch also pointed out our transition decisions were, he used the word diabolical.

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i mean so just like what like we're just we're playing like it's a regular season game i think is what he was getting at here like i yeah especially even when curry goes out we're gonna make our run but we just had that air of us like it'll happen it'll happen we can keep hitting trying to fire away from three but now yeah obviously you're in the playoffs here against you know a team with like legends on it here and it's not going to be ever easy so i like him calling out his team here and i would expect them obviously a bounce back performance in game two

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Because he gets to do what he wants, which is like, I get to stay in the back here and go all over the place and tell people where to go, and I get to run the defense like that, which is like, that's why that zone was so impressive. If they continue to go zone, then it's obviously tough to get Draymond into action. If they're not in zone, I think you put Draymond into action.

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Get him up to be the defender in a pick and roll because he's really good at that too, don't get me wrong, but he is elite. He maybe is one of the best ever. Just be in that back line, right at the rim, helping out. Those ant takes... Some of them he should have hit, and he will probably, and he did even as the game went on, but a lot of them were Draymond.

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He's there, he's coming, he's making it difficult, he's in his head a little bit. He's just so good at it. But I think Kerr will just continue to stick with, obviously, a decent amount of zone until the Wolves can prove they can hit threes, because they can't right now.

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Do you agree with Trey's, like, assessment, though, that, like, The Wolves are like, okay, that was bad. We only scored 88 points. They didn't even have Curry for half the game. Who, by the way, was looking pretty good. You can see, wow, Curry's like, wow, this is a lot easier to score on than the Rockets were. There's not somebody hugging me all the time.

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I sort of like this. But do you think the Wolves are at least going, okay, okay. We can still obviously compete in this series and if not win this series.

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Yeah, and we sort of glossed over it. But Draymond Green hitting four threes in the first half. I think he scored on Gobert right away to sort of start this game. A little wild little hook shot, a little push shot inside. I mean, he was just awesome. Forget defensively, he's giving you 18 points defensively.

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and a lot of those threes in the first half they needed them uh and then jimmy sort of flirting with the triple double and then everybody playing a part it was really really impressive so i do have the stat here sunday monday and tuesday became the first three-day stretch in nba playoff history where visiting teams combined to go at least six and oh so it started with sunday's indiana's game one win in cleveland then golden state's game seven road win and

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In Houston, that concluded the first round, and then we've got wins by New York and Denver on Monday, and then last night, Tuesday night, Indiana and Golden State winning on the road. Home court advantage. No more.

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He does like a million shows with his wife. And again, we sort of glossed over him. A buddy healed. We said he was like a huge X factor in this series because we saw what he did in the last series. When he played well, they won. When he didn't, they lost. 24 points, eight boards. I mean, he was pretty damn good. And he barely, he couldn't hit a shot in the first half.

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So a tale of two halves for Buddy. I guess, what were his things again? He was Buddy Fresh.

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Buddy Love and Buddy Buckets. But do you hear what Jimmy Butler calls him? Butter. I guess B-U-D-D-E-R. And he like kept, he basically was like, stop calling me Butter. And then he's like, but that's what Buddy is short for. So I want to see Butter added to the basketball reference page for Buddy Heald. They were very funny, those two.

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During that press conference, Jimmy just keeps grabbing Buddy's arm. He keeps flexing on his arm.

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Right, but I assume these shorts were drastically different like color patterns?

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Something Jimmy would do. I know. I know. Jimmy would say, I didn't do anything, but I guess their lockers are side by side. So could he have done it? Could he have gotten somebody, an equipment manager, to do it? Yeah, I guess so. But anyway, keep at it. Keep with the hijinks because they're rolling right now. Buddy Hill's on fire, at least in the second half.

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All right, let's get to some NBA news from the past couple days. On Monday, Greg Popovich officially passed the Spurs coaching baton to Mitch Johnson. Most of you know Pop suffered a mild stroke in November. He stepped away from the team for most of the season. Johnson, then an assistant, took over.

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Spurs had a decent year, obviously lost Wemba Nyama sort of halfway through, but 34-48 and missed the postseason. But Mitch Johnson is going to be The official Knicks head coach, and it was great to see Pop. Obviously some funny moments even in the press conference there with the shirt and with the Hall of Famers beside him. But again, it was legit like a passing of the baton to this guy, Trey.

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That was pretty funny. Near the end of his remarks, unzipping the jacket to show the shirt, and then he turned around when he had Duncan and Ginobili with him. Yeah, to me this was like, I'm guessing pop didn't really want to do this, but like, I'll do this for Mitch Johnson and for the Spurs organization. You know, pop is always like, yeah, none of this, none of this fanfare and stuff like this.

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But like, again, this, like he has my blessing, you know, I'm okay. I'm here. I want, I'm still going to be a part of the team, you know, and sort of in a presidential role, but like Mitch did an incredible job given the circumstances that he undertook and sort of, sort of has my blessing. And now we move forward. So it was really cool. And it was just awesome to see him more than anything.

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Moving on, other coaching news. Kenny Atkinson. He was named the NBA Coach of the Year after leading the Cavs to 64 wins and the number one seed in the East. Yeah, maybe bad timing right now for poor Kenny here. Down 2-0, but he received 59 of the possible 100 first place votes from the media panel. He beat out Pistons coach J.B. Bickerstaff, the man he replaced for the honor.

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A little odd. And then Rockets coach Ime Udoka finishing third, so... Kenny, not a surprise here, I don't think, Tass. I think a lot of people thought. I mean, I felt like when he won the first 15 games of the season, it was sort of wrapped up. Then, great seasons from Bickerstaff and Yudoka and stuff like that, but 64 wins is impressive.

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OKC's Sam Presti was announced on Tuesday as the NBA's Executive of the Year, the reward for building a team that won a league-best 68 games this season. Presti is the Thunder's Executive Vice President and also their GM. He got 10 first place votes from a panel of 30.

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basketball executives so what they do is they rank their top three choices in order this isn't a media award this is the other executives voting on who they think amongst their peers should get it presti appeared on 22 of the 30 total ballots so sam presti wins this tk from the other executives good for him yeah um yeah i guess this means the thunder won the caruso giddy trade

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Well, yeah, Rob Palenka, who helped engineer the biggest trade of the season, bringing Luka to the Lakers. He was listed on only five of the 30 ballots. So I read that as the other executives were like, yeah, he got lucky as hell, man. Nico Harrison only called Rob Palenka, and they did the deal. If they would have called me, we would have given you something different. We would have had Luca.

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Yeah, a little shockingly. I thought maybe he would have had one, but no.

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Final piece of news here. This is a little weird. NBC Sports announced this week that it will use an AI-generated voice of former narrator Jim Fagan for elements of its NBA coverage and promotion. So the voice of Fagan, who passed away in 2017, was pretty synonymous with NBC Sports' critically acclaimed coverage of the NBA in the 90s.

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How many times did he collide with Donovan Mitchell in this game? Give me that compilation.

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And here's the latest, I guess, quick little promo to get you ready for next season.

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All right. See you later this fall. But that is the AI-generated voice of Jim Fagan. Now, they got the okay from his family and all of that. But, you know, some people are very upset by this, even though it's playing on nostalgia. Because you hear that voice. It's like, oh, yeah, here we go. Who's Jordan and the Bulls playing? Is that what I immediately think?

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Yeah. The backlash is this is a little weird. He's passed and somebody else could do this. And if I'm being honest, when I listen to that clip, of course, does it sound like him? Yes. But you won't believe this. It's not identical because it's not his damn voice. It's AI generated.

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If you go listen to the old clips that you can find on YouTube from actual Jim Fagan doing those voiceovers, it is a little different.

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Yeah, that's the thing. They are leaning so heavily into the nostalgia factor. But maybe this is where they're crossing the line a little bit. Like, did you really need this? Probably not. We got John Tesh's round ball rock. All right. Cool. Awesome.

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I also have read that NBC sports president Rick Cordella, he is keen on bringing back like player introductions as part of the broadcasts to help present that big game atmosphere. It's something we see less and less of. Right. But that was something like I was like a staple back in the day. OK, that's cool. You know, I mean, it's a fun idea. Try it. But maybe not this. Yeah.

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It adds to the atmosphere, like watching it through your television screen. So that's a good idea, Rick. This AI-generated voice? Maybe not. Maybe not. But let's hear from you guys. What do you think? Thumbs up, thumbs down. Does this nostalgia hit for you?

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Especially because you have the music. We got the music.

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That's all. Okay. I agree. All right. Well, we got two games on tonight. Nick Celtics, 7 p.m. on TNT, New York up 1-0. And then we got Nuggets Thunder 930. That's the second game on the doubleheader. Denver up 1-0. My question, do we have a home team win tonight?

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I'm going to end it. Do you think one, if not two, of these teams actually win a home game tonight?

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Okay. So you'll like a home team at least coming through tonight, if not both. Trey, you're nodding your head.

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We shall see, and we'll be back here tomorrow morning to break down those games. I just want to know if we can keep the streak going of being basically in an instant classic game every night for three nights running now. Yes. Can we make it four at least from one of these? We'll see. Appreciate you joining us live on YouTube or podcast listeners listening a little later.

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Hit the like button if you're on YouTube. Leave your boys a five-star rating and review, and we will see you tomorrow. Until then, Clipper Bros. You heard it here first. Have a great time. Turn up. Love you guys. Awesome.

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I will add that playback link to the show notes. We'll see you there tonight. Brace the day, people.

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It's true. You'd rather be behind, I guess. Jared Allen said it best after the game. The Pacers capitalized on every single mistake that we made, and you guys have basically gone through all of them. I'm sure there's one or two more sort of down the stretch of this game that we could lay the blame pie to at the Cavs players or coaching staff, but...

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The Pacers just always, always capitalize and it usually is just like an effort thing. I mean, you said it, the Cavs couldn't even get the ball in because they just started like full court pressuring them and they were panicking. Now a big part of that, if you have Garland, I think it's a little different. You got a quick point guard to like obviously get open and maybe break a little press.

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I think they got that one right after looking at it. It wasn't flagrant. Yeah, worth a flagrant, but offensive foul, which was huge, of course.

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A back-breaking loss for so many reasons because you had that lead late. You had two 20-point leads at different times of this game. But then, yeah, you said it. Donovan Mitchell had 48 points. He did try and carry this team across the finish line to tie the series.

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30 shot attempts once again 15 of 30 that's pretty damn good and living at the free throw line 17 of 21 i guess he was ultimately there a little bit of everything else like trey i mean he just attacked and attacked and attacked and attacked a lot of these were deserving of foul calls i mean he was just barreling into guys but at least putting pressure on them and then in the end did he just run out of gas

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Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Wednesday, May 7th, 2025. I'm J.E. Skeets here on the Classic Factory, and alongside me, as always, Tass Mellis.

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Hence, like getting them in and out and all this, like get them a quick blow. But then you look at total minutes, it like doesn't blow you away with how many minutes he played in this game. But he just had to like his usage percentage was something like 48% in this game.

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All I kept thinking about was Sonic the Hedgehog when he runs into something and the coins go splashing everywhere. I was like, ooh, that's a little Ty Jerome right now. Money going splashing everywhere.

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This is for you. Next to him, it's the bearded one, my top shot hot boy, Trey Kirby. Ayo. Ayo. And over yonder, making the magic happen, Super Producer JD. Hello. There he is. Here we are. Hello to everybody on YouTube. This camera. God damn. There we go. There we go. Hello to the podcast listeners as well. Five-star ratings and reviews for your boys if you haven't done so already.

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When Max Struess threw down that transition dunk... He took off from outside the paint. That put the lead back to 20 in the third quarter. I thought, okay, that's a wrap. Wow, Mitchell has done it, along with Sam Merrill splashing them threes early. Offense going through Jared Allen a little bit early. Pacers sloppy as hell in the first quarter. But this team, they just slowly claw back.

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Tass, I'm talking about the Pacers. We've seen it time and time again. Now, it's not like, it's not like in an instant, you know, it's not a Cavalanche or it's not a Curry Flurry. They do it in a different way where it's like, we got enough time still. We obviously got Halliburton and we're going to see the big ball dance and his celebration.

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But like, they just like claw and claw and claw till suddenly it's a one possession game.

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Very, very daunting. Yeah, whether Garland, Mobley, Hunter are playing or not, it's like, obviously, they've got all the confidence in the world now. And again, they're just like, we can get back into games and we have, we believe, the best closer, at least this season right now, in Tyrese Halliburton. This guy continues to make kick shots.

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And this other thing, I kept thinking in this game, and we've seen it a couple times now here in the playoffs and even in regular season games that we've talked about. These teams get like this lead, call it five to nine points, right? And time is getting down in a couple of minutes.

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And they get so, the defense with the lead, get so caught up in take away threes, take away threes, take away threes, that they just give up layups. They just give up layups. How many times has it happened in this game? It's happened in so many games where it's like, I get it. You don't want to give up the three instead of the two, but you are just giving up a quick two defensively.

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And these are NBA pro players that are going to go like 99.9% at the rim. So it's like a weird, I don't know what the answer is to it, but like maybe try and take it away a little bit. Something about that, like you just see it so many times now.

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Yeah, I get it. You get it. Obviously, possession matters, and they were giving it away. Yes. Don't call timeouts. I hate these layup lines that these teams just start giving up when they do get a little bit like, well, we're up seven. Okay, okay, we should be good here. And that's backfired a couple times now.

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We've got some fun games to talk about once again. Again. The playoffs are on one right now. I guess first question, will a home team ever win another playoff game? Discuss. No, we'll also get into some news. Got Coach of the Year, Executive of the Year, and all that stuff. But yeah, the Pacers. Scored the final eight points in about 47, 48 seconds to stun the shorthanded Cavaliers.

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He was also even trying to be polite at one point in the game. What did you think of Mitchell trying to quiet the Cavaliers crowd with their overrated chants with Halbert at the line? He was legit like, no, no, no, no. I guess he believes he is not overrated, and he's ended up being right.

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But that's the best part about this team, the Pacers. It's like they get down big. It doesn't need to be like Halliburton, save us. It's like not that. Because in this one, it's like Neesmith threes. Matherin took over the game at one point to just keep Indiana in it. That was it. He had a stretch where he was like attacking, scoring inside, getting to the free throw line a little bit.

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And it just kept them alive. Turner did have a really good start to the game as well. And it's just like everybody contributing to like... Hand it off to your closer. Throw it over to, who's the greatest baseball closer in history? Who would you say? Eck?

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Yeah, okay, sure. I was going to go Tom Henke, so that's why I asked. Baseball reference, Blue Jays reference. But they just hand it over to Halliburton at the end. Like, hey, we got you here, man. Now close the door. And he's done it so many times now that he is, he is, Trey, you called it last week or whatever it was, like, the guy's Reggie Miller 2.0 now. Big time.

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He is, because he just keeps coming through. Instead, I just wish he sort of did the choke job last night.

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Why The Knicks Fired Tom Thibodeau, New Magic Jerseys, Giannis-Raptors Trade Rumors

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There was a lot of classic Bootenholzer, Doc Rivers, names like that. And one of the last names I said was, what about Tibbs? There's some buzz, like if they don't go far here or have a disappointing playoff performance, maybe Tibbs will be out. Okay, ich denke, das war ziemlich spot-on damals, aber dann gingen sie in die Konferenz-Finale.

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Und ich denke, das ist der Grund, warum wir uns alle auf den Can Tibbs-Narrativ verkleidet haben. Weil es war so, okay, sie sind ziemlich weit, sie sind zwei Wins entfernt von den Finals. Ja, er hat wahrscheinlich ein paar Entscheidungen zu spät gemacht. Ja, ich hätte wahrscheinlich natürlich mehr auf seine Bühne gelegt, all das. Aber trotzdem... Damn, what a run. Pretty good.

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But they're saying, who cares? They're like, they're looking at this like, no, who cares? And maybe a part of this is like who they have their eye on as well to take over.

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We talked about... Five years is an eternity now in the NBA. If you coach one team for five years, that's like, whoa, that's long. It's now Eric Spolstra, Steve Kerr, and then Billy Donovan with the Chicago Bulls as the longest tenured coaches. Billy Donovan has won one playoff game. And he's the third longest tenured coach.

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Überjonder, Making the Magic Happen, Superproducer J.D. Oh, hallo, hallo. Hey, hey, hey. Hallo, hallo, da ist er. Hier sind wir. Niemand klingt wie Roboter heute. Wir sind gut.

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Hier ist mein Ding mit Tibbs. Ich denke, Tibbs hat vielleicht bemerkt, dass er ein 82-Spiele-Coach ist und nicht ein 16-Spiele-Coach in den Playoffs. Und das ist ein echtes Problem, das ich denke, dass das Verteidigungsamt hier schaut. Denn seine Teams gewinnen generell viele regelmäßige Saison-Games. Und sie spielen immer voll auf. Und sie spielen ihre Startler.

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Er spielt seine Startler in schweren Minuten. Aber wenn die Playoffs umgehen und alle anderen Teams es auf einen Knopf öffnen, Es gibt nicht wirklich einen zusätzlichen Niveau für Tibbs und seine Teams. Er spielt bereits am Maximum, weil er sich auf jeden regelmäßigen Saisongame anschaut. Ein Spiel gegen die Hornets im März sieht er aus wie Spiel 7 der Konferenz-Finals oder Finals.

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Und das ist auf der einen Seite großartig, aber vielleicht funktioniert dieser Akkumulative Faktor nicht in der heutigen NBA. Und es sind zwei kleine Ballen auf der Wand und man muss ein bisschen mehr langsam spielen und sich auf dem Bench lehnen und versuchen, Dinge zu probieren und Rotationen zu wechseln. Und er macht das nicht und gewinnt ein paar Regulär-Saison-Spiele.

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Und dann wiederum haben sie keinen anderen Niveau in der Post-Saison, den andere Teams haben. Er ist wie der Typ, der eine Party hat. Und seine Musik klingelt um 7 Uhr. Du gehst rein und du denkst dir, wir essen Ordeurs. Ich weiß, dass wir hier ein bisschen bleiben werden, aber warum ist es so laut? Du musst es aufbauen. Halt es niedrig.

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Wir müssen am höchsten Volumen sein, bis Mittwoch, wenn die Trinken fliegen und wir rocken. Aber er hat sich nur am Anfang gekrankt.

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Er muss sich langsam einsteigen. Er muss sich einsteigen. Danke, das ist das Wort, das ich suche. Aber ich weiß es nicht. Ich weiß es nicht. Ich meine, ich glaube, es gibt Pros und Cons zu ihm. Wiederum, tolle Kultur, viele Gewinne, offensichtlich Erfolg, besonders wenn man in New York City Basketball schaut.

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Trey und Ash sind in Oklahoma City, bereit für die NBA Finals. Sie haben schon einen Tornadenschein oder zwei gehabt. Wow. Während in der OKC. Ich sah das. Ja, ganz viele Stürme gestern. Sie sind sicher und laut. Sie haben es zu ihrem Hotel gemacht. Und sie werden jeden Tag auf Media Day sein. Die Marathon von Media Day Game 1.

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Aber vielleicht ist das Problem, dass er stürmisch ist und nicht die Jungs aufbaut und all das. Vielleicht ist das, weshalb sie sagen, er wird nicht derjenige sein, der uns hier den letzten Humpf übernimmt. Und wir denken, wir haben dir einen verdammt guten Raster gegeben. Nun, die Leute werden sagen, sie werden sich darauf zurückdrücken. Okay, er hat seinen Bench nicht gespielt. Welchen Bench?

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Weil sie so hochwertig sind. Und du hast recht, vielleicht sollte McBride mehr Möglichkeiten bekommen. Er hätte wahrscheinlich mehr mit dem 5-out-Scoring-Offense gespielt. Er hat nicht viel davon gemacht, auch in der Postseason. Und dann sind wir durch Shantman gegangen. Diese Jungs sind in Ordnung. Aber er fängt plötzlich an, ihn aus dem Nichts zu spielen. Und du denkst dir, was ist hier los?

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Aber am Ende... Du sagst, man kann nicht nur sagen, er ist fünf Jahre da, er hat viele Spiele gewonnen, wie schon gesagt, und dann ist er in die Konferenz-Finale gegangen. Du musst in die Details eingehen, in den Kontext, wie die Serie ging, und vielleicht ist das der Grund, warum es immer noch Pause gibt, obwohl er zwei Spiele von den Finals entfernt ist. We're here to watch basketball.

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And somehow, someway, sometimes guys and teams get to conference finals.

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Das hat das Pacer-Charter-Fahrzeug gemacht. Es wurde gestern nach Tulsa geflogen, weil der Tornado-Warnung in der Nähe des OKC's Will Rogers International Airport war. Also musste ich 100 Meilen nach Tulsa fahren. Schreckliche Dinge. Ja. Aber dann haben sie es einfach ausgewertet, kommen wieder in die Luft und gehen nach der OKC.

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Das ist rar. Dan Feldman, den ich gesehen habe, hatte den Breakdown. New York ist die erste Mannschaft, die aus einer Konferenz-Finals-Erfahrung ihre Trainer für Basketball-Gesetze ausführt, seit die Grizzlies Lionel Hollands 2013 ausgeführt haben. Die Memphis Grizzlies sind noch nicht zur Konferenz-Finale zurückgekommen.

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Vorher die Pistons, das letzte Team, mit Flip Saunders 2008, Detroit, sind noch nicht zurückgekommen. Es gibt die Tyloos, die Steve Kers, die Nick Nurses, sogar Yudoka, der seine Team als Rookie-Coach in der Finale gewonnen hat. Missoula hat es gewonnen in seiner zweiten Saison. Viele Beispiele, wo es funktioniert. There are just as many where it does not.

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So this is a huge, like the Bridges move, trading all that draft capital, like the Cat move a week or two before preseason, swapping out Randall for him. And now this, these are ballsy, ballsy moves here from Leon Rose in the front office slash Dolan, I guess. Going for it. Really going for it. This is a championship robust move. Another one.

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I got a bunch of mics for you. Okay, Michael Malone's name is being thrown around. Obviously he was canned right at the end of the regular season. You seem to be shaking your head.

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You want a D'Antoni as well? I don't think that's happening.

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Other names, I'll go through a bunch here. Coaches, obviously, that had some success and maybe get another chance. Kenny Atkinson, you already brought him up. Taylor Jenkins. James Borrego. Dann können wir in ein paar College-Namen kommen, wie Jay Wright, Dan Hurley. Und es gibt einige alte Leute, die früher auf der ABC-Kolle waren. Mark Jackson, Jeff Van Gundy. Oh, wow. Du hast Rick Brunson da.

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Könnte er sich einfach übernehmen? Könnte Jalen's Vater sich einfach ein paar Sitzungen übernehmen? Chris Quinn's Name hat die Möglichkeit, sich umzusetzen. Johnny Bryant. Das ist ein sehr heißer Name in den Coaching-Zirkeln. Es sieht aus, als ob die Sons ihn auf einer Shortlist haben. Ist er ein potenzieller neuer Trainer?

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Vielleicht ist das der Grund, weshalb die Knicks plötzlich tippten und sie wirklich Johnny Bryant wollten. Das ist eine Möglichkeit. Und dann habe ich gesehen, dass das mein Lieblingsname ist. Ich werde es dir einfach anschauen. CBS ist Sam Quinn. Ich habe es als Wildcard-Name geschrieben. Was ist mit Chris Paul? Go Jason Kidd-Style. Chris Paul, hang it up and just go coach right away.

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But anyway, I gave you a million names there. Is there one I missed? Metta World Peace. Okay, Metta World Peace. I saw Coach Metta, yeah, he wanted to get in there.

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We'll find out. We'll find out when we talk to them. We got lots to get into here though. We're going to lay a little fill in the blank because we got new jerseys from Orlando. We got finally addressed these Giannis to the Toronto Raptors trade rumors. Yeah, yeah. You're pumped for that. Why not? And we'll get into some fun like prop bets for game one or at least in the finals.

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Oh, ja. Ja, ja, ja. Ja, ich habe gesagt, dass er nicht verabschiedet wurde, weil die Coachs des Jahres oft verabschiedet werden.

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Er ist die Cavs verabschiedet, bis jetzt, aber das ist die NBA. Ja, ja. Wer sagt in einer Stunde, dass er nicht verabschiedet wird und dann plötzlich den Knicks verabschiedet?

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But your gut says they go with a coach that has never been a head coach in the league. And like a fresh, fresh voice. Like the Nick Nurse angle, or I guess even Steve Kerr would have been that as well.

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Okay. Tom Thibodeau, natürlich. Nick Nurse, 1920, Coach of the Year. Er wurde gekannt. Mike Budenholzer, er wurde zweimal gefeuert. Über die Spannung. Er war 18, 19 und dann Dwayne Casey in 17, 18. Also, lasst das nicht. Mark Dagnall und Kenny Atkinson sind gefährlich. Schlaft mit einem Augenblick, Leute. Ihr wollt keinen Coach of the Year gewinnen. Kuss der Tod.

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Und dann meine letzte Frage mit diesem Thema. Glaubst du, wenn Tib hier gekannt wird, ist er potenziell der erste Domino, der in irgendeinem großen Wurf von den Knicks fällt, wie ein Blockbuster-Trade von irgendeiner Art? Ist das eine Möglichkeit? Ich verstehe es. Ich glaube, der ganze Punkt ist, wir haben ein gutes Team, wie wir denken. Wir haben viel Geld in dieses Team gegeben.

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But yesterday the New York Knicks fired head coach Tom Thibodeau. The team announced this in a statement. Tibbs führte die Knicks in die Finale des Osten diese Saison. Seine größte Playoff-Runde seit 1999. Aber sie kamen kurz vor den Pacers, trotz des Abstands auf dem Tor. Sie verletzten in 6. Das hat viele Leute gestern überrascht.

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Wir haben viel Draftkapital gegeben. Also machen wir es, weil was else machen wir? Sie haben die Veteranen-Minimum-Exzeption und Teil der 5,7 Millionen Dollar Tax-Mid-Level-Exzeption. Sie haben das in der Freien Agentur zu verwenden. Nicht viel anderes, richtig? Also ist es so, was wirst du tun? Aber könnte das eine Bewegung von Mikael Bridges oder eine Bewegung von Karl-Anthony Towns sein?

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Und es ist so, dass du das in Tandem machst, wie z.B. Tibbs, einen neuen Trainer zu bekommen und dann auch eine ziemlich drastische Bewegung zu machen. Oder denkst du, das ist ein bisschen weitgehend und du bekommst einfach frische Augen und gibst ihnen eine Chance?

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Wenn ich mich zurücksehe, haben sie es wahrscheinlich wirklich geboten, Quentin Grimes zu handeln.

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Könnte so einen Mann benutzen. Ja. Ein bisschen größer. Weil ich denke, das ist ein großer Teil dieses ganzen, oh, ich sollte McBride mehr spielen. Ich denke, Tibbs war einfach furchtbar, dass Brunson und McBride da sind. Sure. Zwei Jungs, die sind wahrscheinlich auf 6-1. Sie sind beide kleine Jungs. Kannst du nicht sehen, dass Tibs sagt, nein, ich brauche mehr Größe.

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Ich weiß, ich weiß. Ich sage nicht, dass es richtig ist, aber ich fühle mich, als hätte er wirklich einfach direkt auf diese beiden Jungs geschaut. Es gibt keine zwei kurzen Jungs da draußen. Es gibt keine zwei kurzen Könige.

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Und du kannst sehen, dass es eine Pencil-Linie für jede ihrer Höhen hat.

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I mean, it was weird when Jenkins got fired near the end of the regular season. Then it was maybe even weirder when Michael Malone got fired near the end of the season. Yeah. And then this one is just like, you know, this is the NBA, like we say with coaches.

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Anyways. Yeah, that one the least surprising, but still. Yeah.

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Letzte Sache hier auf Tibs. Ich habe das von AtBuckets auf Twitter gesehen. Die Pacers, Coachkillers, dieses Jahr. Tibbs und die Knicks haben den Pacers verloren. Er wurde drei Tage später gefeuert, nach dem Spiel 6 der Eastern Conference Finals. Vorher war Michael Malone, wir haben gerade über ihn gesprochen, mit den Nuggets. Sie haben den Pacers verloren. Malone war zwei Tage später raus.

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Tibbs hat 56% seiner regelmäßigen Saison-Spiele als Knicks-Head-Coach gewonnen. Über 5 Saisons. Und er hat seine Reise in New York mit 24 Playoff-Wins beendet. 17 mehr als die letzten 13 Coachs zusammen. Also hatten wir da natürlich Erfolg.

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Und auch Mike Brown. They lost to the Pacers, the Kings did, and then five days later he was canned. Pacers, taken down the coaches this year. So maybe, maybe if they pull off one of the biggest upsets in Finals history, Dagnol's next. Alright, let's hear from you guys. How surprised were you by this firing? Do you think he should have at least been given next season?

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That's what a lot of people said. Why don't you just give him another go next year? But again, I think they're just like, this guy ain't changing, man. We've already had these conversations with him. He's stuck in his ways. And who do you think should coach the Knicks next?

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Das ist für den nächsten Trainer, um es herauszufinden, glaube ich. Und wiederum, erzähl uns, wer du denkst, es soll sein oder es wird sein. Lass uns in den Stream-Team wissen und natürlich in den Kommentaren. Okay, lass uns ein bisschen in der Blanke spielen. It's been forever since we've done this. Drei frische Uniformen und ein geändertes Tor während einer besonderen Feier bei der Kia Center.

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Da ist also das neue Logo für alle auf YouTube. Sie haben die Farbe Blau verändert. Und natürlich mit dem zirkeligen Ausblick. Schauen wir uns die Schuhe an. Okay, ja, wir haben drei da. Die Association Schuhe, das ist der weiße, der Icon Blau und dann der Statement Blau. Also eine Art, du weißt, ein überwältigendes Ausdruck von modernen Klassiken. Und dann endlich das Tor.

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Aber Voraussetzung oder Anwesenheit, wir können auch sagen, wer die Anwesenheit gemacht hat, haben wir letztendlich entschieden, Tibbs hat uns zu einem Niveau gebracht, wie weit er uns nehmen kann und wir werden pivoten. Aber wie schockiert warst du dich, glaube ich, gestern bei dieser News?

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Da ist ein echtes Bild davon, mit dem neuen Logo und dem neuen Blauen. Und dann das Grafikbild, das man von diesen NBA-Teams sieht. Sie halten den Parquet-Floor, wie die Celtics. Das mag ich. Ich bin einer der rareren Teams, um das zu machen. Also, ihr habt es gesehen. Taz füllt das Blank. Die neue Ausstellung des Orlando Magics ist blank.

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Es ist also im Grunde eine Ausgleichs-Schuhe mit, wieder einmal, ein bisschen modernem Twist, um es frisch oder neu zu machen. Das schwarze Statement-Uniform, das man sich fragt, ich weiß nicht, vielleicht ist es zu beschäftigt. Es ist beeinflusst, und J.D., du hast hier ein Foto von Shaq, es ist beeinflusst von der Magix-Original-On-Court-Warm-Up-Jacket mit dem blöden Streifen.

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in jersey form right you know pinstripes down basically the bottom part then that that sash like you called it i like that and then and then the blue up top so that's what they were going for and i mean that is a cool jacket it's cool because we like nostalgia for sure the jackets jackets are great listen i i've got gift cards uh on the nba.com the store and i'm

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How are you getting those gift cards? For holidays? People give them to you?

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Ich denke, dass sie hier einen tollen Job gemacht haben. Der neue Look von Magic ist sauber. Es ist sauber. Sehr sauber. Es ist sauber. Ich mag es. Nun, es gibt einen Online-Bereich. Die NBA-Logos sehen alle gleich aus. Denn wir haben euch das neue Magic-Logo gezeigt und J.D. hat dieses hier. Sie werden alle das zirkuläre Team-Name am Top und dann natürlich auch das Moniker am Boden.

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Und du hast einen Basketballer und wir zeigen dir hier die Magie, die Raptors, die Wolves, die Nets, die Sixers. Da gibt es andere. Und ich sah Leute, die sich an das hier verpissen, wie verdammt, sie sehen alle gleich aus. I'm pretty sure that this is like, the NBA wanted this, I remember. They want them all to sort of take this form, at least their primary logo.

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Because then you have secondary logos and all that. But this is like a mandated NBA thing, I think. To like, hey, you gotta give us this type of version.

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I mean, it looks damn similar to that Minnesota Timberwolves font, I'll tell you that.

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You say that. I think that's a big part of the reason why the NBA wanted that. Yeah. Because you have some of these other, you know, big, longer type logos and they sort of like make things a little maybe messy for graphics or whatever, websites and stuff like that. Yeah. But that's why they want that uniformity. Ich glaube, sie haben hier einen sehr guten Job gemacht.

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Und ich habe sehen, dass Trey in unserem Slack erzählt hat, dass Jeff Hamilton eine Jacket für sie gemacht hat.

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Alright, next one here. Last month, NBA fans learned that Bucks Superstar Giannis Antetokounmpo was reportedly open-minded about a trade. Several teams seen as potential suitors. The Rockets name were coming up, the Spurs, the Nets, other teams. But in the past few days, a new team is gaining some momentum.

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According to the Toronto Star reporter Doug Smith, our guy Doug, there is mutual interest between Giannis and the Raptors. And then ESPN's Brian Windhorst also separately reported that the Raptors are looking for a big fish in the trade market. So people are putting these all together and saying, hey, is this a possibility? So Tass, fill in the blank.

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Whatever happened with that, by the way? We heard that they were having these meetings between the Bucks organization and Giannis and his camp. And it's like, I assume they've had them, but it's been pretty quiet since.

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Sie werden noch immer 45 Siege mit ihm auf deinem Team gewinnen.

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Und das ist Teil davon, dass er die Familie in den Damm-Forst bewegt.

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Bist du ehrlich gesagt, dass die Hawks hier in den Arbeiten sind, weil der Baklava hier ist?

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The Danforth, for those that don't know, the Greek area in Toronto.

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Es ist witzig, dass du das Wort Tasty hier mitgebracht hast, weil ich mitgebracht habe, dass diese berühmten Yannis-Raptors-Trade-Rumoren NBA-Krack-Kokain sind. Was manche Leute vielleicht finden lecker, aber sei vorsichtig. Und der Grund, warum ich das sage, ist, weil es mit den Raptors beginnt, Yannis zu draften, richtig? Als er 2013 ein Prospekt war.

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Du hast die Videos gesehen, die offensichtlich veröffentlicht wurden. Es ist kein Geheimnis, dass Yannis Eine Beziehung oder tiefe Beziehungen zu Masai Ujiri und ihren Familien und so weiter. Dann sagst du, die Raptors, Toronto, ist ein großer Markt. Es ist ein großer Markt, der generell wie ein kleiner Markt aussieht, weil es in Kanada ist. In der NBA-Welt. In der NBA-Welt.

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Ja, es ist offensichtlich eine große Stadt. Es ist eine Weltklasse-Stadt, aber... In der NBA-Landschaft müssen sie fast so aussehen, weil sie sagen, hey, guck mal, was ist mit uns? Oh, jetzt lieben alle Pascal Siakam. Wir haben versucht, dir zu erzählen, dass er großartig war, aber du hast uns nicht gehört. Also gibt es das.

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Und du hast diese rabide Fanbase, die dieses Art von Bewegung liebt, wie dieses große Spiel, das Suchen nach einem großen Fisch, um Windhorst zu bezeichnen. Natürlich der Kawhi Leonard. Drama, that sort of came out of nowhere. Remember Shohei Ohtani? Remember when he was going to the Blue Jays? Like they just got infatuated. But what would Toronto have to include to make this a realistic move?

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It's going to have to be one of their bigger contracts, if not two of them, like you said. If everybody's available, I guess it could be Scottie Barnes. I would think Masai. That's the one guy he wants to keep.

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und dann vielleicht neben Giannis haben, aber es ist entweder Ingram und sein Kontrakt, RJ Barrett und seine 27 Millionen, was auch immer er macht, schnell, offensichtlich macht er eine Menge Geld. Es muss ein, zwei dieser Jungs sein, um die Werte anzupassen. Dann ist es, glaube ich, einige ihrer jüngeren Aspekte, richtig, um Milwaukee zu entlasten.

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Wie, wenn sie Giannis handeln, werden sie wie Fielding Calls sein. Wie, sie werden nicht das ganze Luca-Ding machen, wo es so ist. Wir senden ihn nur nach L.A. Also Grady Dick, Abaji, Jacoby Walter, es muss ein paar ihrer jungen Jungs sein. Und dann hast du recht, sie haben all ihre Draftkapital. Sie haben den Nummer neun Pick in diesem Jahrs Draft.

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Sie haben alle ihre zukünftigen ersten Runden Picks. Also wie viele würde es nehmen? Aber du als Raptors Fan, würdest du im Grunde die Farm handeln? für Giannis. Er ist nur 30. Er ist nicht am Ende seiner Karriere hier. Würdest du das machen? Würdest du eigentlich handeln? Ich meine, weil dann schaust du einfach nach, mit wem ist Giannis zu spielen an diesem Punkt?

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Because maybe it's not even Giannis. Maybe the other fish is big out there. That they don't get Giannis and go for somebody else.

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It's going to cost a lot less to get Kevin Durant than it would Giannis.

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So that's why I think Ingram... So you think the fit's almost better, like at least on paper, Giannis with Ingram than Giannis with Scott.

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You say that because they upset the Celtics. Or were going up 3-1 when Tatum got injured at the very least.

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Okay, there it is. Us addressing the Giannis to Raptors trade rumors that definitely will not happen. I'm glad we got it in.

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Genau. Ich meine, was verkaufst du ihnen? Ich meine. Ich weiß nicht, was dein Pitch ist, außer, hey Mann, denk an die größten Spieler aller Zeiten, deine Dirks und deine Kobis, eine Franchise. Du könntest das machen, wir wollen, dass du das machst, okay. Er ist ein loyaler Typ. Aber dann ist der andere Seite, dass Giannis auf dem Rekord sagt, ich will nicht nur einen Titel.

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So like, I guess then the Bucks are saying, hey man, we're gonna be bad for a year or two, but we can rebuild, we can make these moves, and like, when you're 33, 34, we're gonna be right back in the hunt for a championship. Like, again, I'm like, just putting myself into John Horse's shoes of like, what he's trying to tell them.

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But, I mean, it feels like, I don't know, we'll see, we'll see what Giannis says, but they're gonna have like, every team calling them, offering like, their best package. And I don't think the Raptors do have the best package, if Giannis is available, and it's like, alright, call us, what do you got?

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I don't think it's brutal, like all these draft picks and obviously, depends how you feel about Scotty Barnes, like that's pretty good, I mean he's under obviously now a huge contract.

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Wir werden sehen. Wir warten auf das, was Giannis sagt. Aber Raptors... Mutual Interest. Von unserem Guide Dougie. Okay, der letzte hier. Die Bookies haben eine Plethora von NBA Finals Prop-Betten gedroht. Insbesondere Stats, Rekorde, Techniken, Headbutts. Du kannst im Grunde alles betten. Also möchte ich dich, Tass, in den Blinken stellen.

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Why The Knicks Fired Tom Thibodeau, New Magic Jerseys, Giannis-Raptors Trade Rumors

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Dein Lieblings-NBA-Finals-Bett, das du gesehen hast, ist... Was?

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Why The Knicks Fired Tom Thibodeau, New Magic Jerseys, Giannis-Raptors Trade Rumors

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I was going to say, I can't wait to see, are those fast break opportunities there for Siakam? He's fast as hell, but obviously the Thunder are great at getting back.

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Why The Knicks Fired Tom Thibodeau, New Magic Jerseys, Giannis-Raptors Trade Rumors

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Okay, also du denkst, du hast ihn mit 21, 22, 23 Punkten gespielt?

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Es scheint niedrig zu sein. Okay, ich mag das. Ich habe mit Jill und Williams den höchsten Punkt-Total in jedem Spiel gespielt. Ich gehe über 29,5. Das ist ziemlich hoch. Aber in jedem Spiel in den Finals muss er 30 plus Punkte schießen. Er hatte schon zwei Spiele mit 30 plus Punkten in dieser Postseason. Er hatte 32 in der 3. Spielzeit, die Nuggets verloren.

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Und dann hatte er 34 in der riesigen 4. Spielzeit gegen die Wolves in den Western Conference Finals, wo er spezial war in dieser Spielzeit. Das war so nah, dass sie 2-2 gewonnen haben. So I like him at least once getting this. I've already said I think he's gonna be like early frontrunner for finals MVP in how he's gonna perform early on if they try and reduce Shea a little bit on the other side.

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Why The Knicks Fired Tom Thibodeau, New Magic Jerseys, Giannis-Raptors Trade Rumors

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So I'll go with one game he scores 30 plus points. Now he only scored 30 plus points. How many times do you think he did in the regular season? J-Dub.

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I thought that was pretty low. He only scored over 40 once. 41 points. But I think once he'll do it here. Because I think he's going to be pretty important to their chances to win a title here. And maybe obviously in some blowouts and stuff like that. So give me J-Dub over 29.5.

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Why The Knicks Fired Tom Thibodeau, New Magic Jerseys, Giannis-Raptors Trade Rumors

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You're talking about the Pacers? Cavaliers. Donovan Mitchell.

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yes or no plus 300 for yes minus 500 for no so you know the bookies are saying it's unlikely that espn slash abc will show us i guess abc will show us a picture of jim carrey and rick carlisle side by side it's i mean i don't know they should but will they probably not if it was tnt i feel like i like my chances more

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It's not new. It's not new, yeah. But you gotta remember, you got a bunch of casuals turning in to the finals. They're like, who the hell is this guy? Is that Jim Carrey coaching the Pacers? They're like, no, no, no. Look, he just looks like him.

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Vielleicht wäre es schön, wenn er statt von Smokin' wenn Rick seinen Spitt macht, Spittin'. Und das bringt uns zu dem Jim Carrey-Foto. Ein freies Idee für dich, ABC.

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Well, yeah, they both are. Yeah. Sie sind beide älter. Auf dem gleichen Wert. Ich würde den Nein nehmen. Ich sage nicht, dass es ein lustiger war. Du kannst alles betten.

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Let's do it. Getting ready for Game 1 here from the Classic Factory. Tass, myself, JD, TK and Esch in OKC. We might hear from them. They plan on having an immediate reaction podcast after Game 1 from Oklahoma City too. So that'll be something to keep your eye on. So a couple podcasts coming your way probably tomorrow. We'll have the Drop Podcast on Friday.

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Whole lot of good stuff here from the No Dunks Boys. If you're enjoying it, hit the like button, subscribe. Podcast listeners, 5-star ratings and reviews. Bis dann, Clipper-Bros! Du hast es hier zuerst gehört. Habe eine tolle Zeit. Schau dich an. Ich liebe dich alle. Wahnsinn.

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Nein, nicht cool. Ich kann es nicht vorstellen. Es fühlt sich an als wäre es ein Baseballteam. Genau.

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Ja, ich glaube so. Ja, ich glaube, du hast recht. Ja, war er einer der... Ja, Cary Von Erich. Ja, gute Frage. Er ist der Von Erichs? Hast du Iron Claw gesehen? Nein. Willst du einen schönen Schmerz? Schau dir das an. Das hat mich am Ende des Films aus den Augen gebracht. Aber es geht um die Familie. Die Wrestling-Familie. Von Airx? Ja, das ist die verrückte Geschichte.

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Die Geschichte war so verrückt. Sie haben alle diese Brüder. Ich gebe nichts weg, weil es real ist. Viele von ihnen sind weggeflogen. In unfreundlichen Situationen. Inklusive Texas Tornado. Ja, das war es. Aber... Sie haben einen Bruder in dem Film getötet, weil es zu viele Brüder gab. Und niemand wird das glauben. Nicht, dass niemand das glauben wird, aber es ist fast zu verrückt.

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Sie haben einen Bruder komplett entfernt. Der ist auch gestorben. Von der Geschichte? Ja. Das ist verrückt. Wow. Das ist verrückt. Okay. Von Eriks, Mann. Okay, danke. Texas Tornado, bestätigt. Wir sehen uns morgen.

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Wow. Ja, das ist der Iron Man. Das ist der Typ, der es liebt und jedes Spiel spielt und er will, dass die Straße weitergeht, aber er hat auch beantwortet, wie viele Minuten er und die anderen Startler, wie du gesagt hast, spielen. Und Tibbs hat nicht wirklich viel zu verlassen, hat er? Nein. Zumindest für den Rest der regelmäßigen Saison.

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Er hat eventuell angefangen, Dinge in der Post zu verändern, aber vielleicht ist es ein bisschen zu spät, von der Front Office Sicht.

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Also glaubst du, dass diese Gespräche hinter geschlossenen Türen zwischen dem Verteidigungsamt und Tibs waren? Hey, probier das. Vielleicht swappen wir das aus. Bring diesen Jungen da rein. All diese Ideen, die du hier pitchst. Und für die meiste Zeit war Tibs stürmer und war wie, nein, nein, nein, wir machen es meiner Art. Bis es war wie, jetzt sind wir in einem 2-0-Bereich. Jetzt.

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Ich werde natürlich Mitchell Robinson in die Startlinie legen. Und es ist so, ja, wir haben dir gesagt, das zu tun, für einen Monat. Wir haben dir gesagt, du solltest versuchen, einen Bench zu bauen. Plötzlich bekommst du einige gute Minuten aus Schammett und DeLon Wright. Aber wo waren diese Jungs? Und wo war die Bildung dieser Jungs durch die regelmäßige Saison?

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Wiederum, vielleicht haben wir dir das gesagt und du wolltest es nicht so stolz machen. Ich weiß es nicht. Ich schätze hier, dass das Teil der Equation ist, warum es nicht möglich war.

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Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty obvious that the front office disappointed in the conference finals loss to the Pacers. And like you said, maybe how the entire regular season went in what is appearing now to be a wide open Eastern Conference. I think that's part of the equation here. This is maybe the time to actually win a title or at least get to the finals.

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Because it's championship or bust with this squad. All the moves they made. Sowohl auf der letzten Zeit, in 24, glaube ich, und dann im Sommer mit den Bridges und Cat-Move. Und dann diese Idee, wir müssen es jetzt machen. Sie haben es in den Statement-Tasks gesagt, wie dieses Statement, das sie veröffentlicht haben.

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Unsere Organisation ist einzigartig darauf konzentriert, ein Champions-League für unsere Fans zu gewinnen. Okay, da ist das. Tipps, sie sagen, er hat uns nicht nur mit Klasse und Professionalismus für die letzten fünf Saisonen, sondern auch mit einem enormen Erfolg auf dem Platz mit unseren vier Playoff-Bürsten und unseren vier Playoff-Series-Werke.

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Letztendlich haben wir das eine Entscheidung gemacht, die wir für unsere Organisation am besten anfangen. Also danke, Mann, für die Playoff-Werke. Danke für die tollen regelmäßigen Saisonen. Danke, dass du uns zurückbringst zur Relevanz in der NBA-Landschaft.

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Aber wir glauben nicht, dass du als Trainer uns über den Humpf bringen kannst und uns tatsächlich in die Finale bringen kannst und vielleicht ein Wettbewerb gewinnen kannst. Alle Berichte sagen, Leon Rose, der GM, hat diese Entscheidung gemacht. Aber du weißt, es gibt eine volle Rückhaltung von James Dolan. Besonders der, hey, nimm den 30-Millionen-Dollar-Partner. Besonders das.

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Und manche Leute denken, ja, okay, ja, richtig, es ist Leon Rose. Leute denken, das ist ein James-Dolan-Move, ein klassischer Dolan-Move. Er fühlt die guten Vibes von New York City und den Bing-Bong-Jungs und dieses tolle Rennen hier und erhält den Erfolg, zumindest in der regelmäßigen Saison. Lass uns hier weitergehen. Und er beginnt ein bisschen zu meditieren.

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Und das ist, warum Leute sagen, vielleicht könnte das zurückfallen. Das könnte in deinem Gesicht blöken. Depending on who they get in here and whether that person can be the Steve Kerr that came in and replaced Mark Jackson, can be the Ty Lue, same thing. But there are many other examples where it doesn't work like that.

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Nick Nurse and Dwayne Casey obviously is another one that people bring up, but that's not a guarantee here.

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Okay, der GM wird sich nicht erschießen. Leon Rose sagt, ich denke, schau, was ich dir hier gegeben habe, Tibbs. Das ist eine verdammt gute Start-5 und ich denke, ich habe andere Teile bekommen und ich denke nicht, dass du sie benutzt oder maximalisiert hast. Also brauchen wir eine neue Stimme hier und ein frisches Set von Augen.

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Und wiederum, wie bei den anderen Beispielen, hat es vorher gearbeitet, weil die Leute sagen werden, Well, they gotta get in somebody that has a championship pedigree or a title under the name. Not necessarily. A lot of these ones we went through were like, what? Nick Nurse? And everyone was like, who? Who the hell is Nick Nurse?

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Now, he's handed also another guy to help his roster, but then they go all the way, and Ty Lue has success, and again, Steve Kerr. It's still a massive, massive gamble. And I think what's shocking, I actually went back, I did a solo pod with JD back in April, and one of the topics was Coaches on the hot seat, because it was off the heels of Michael Malone being fired. Who else could be in trouble?

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Guten Morgen, liebe Welt! Und willkommen zum No Dunks Podcast, präsentiert von Amazon Prime. Es ist Montag, Juni 4, 2025. Ich bin J.D. Skeets hier in der Classic Factory und neben mir, wie immer, Tass Mellis. Schönen Rundendag, alle. Ich wusste nicht, dass es einen Rundendag gibt.

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Thunder Big 3 Take Game 4, Quiet Ant Night & John Haliburton Is Free!

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I mean, credit to Dort and Caruso for obviously... containing, slowing down, whatever, stopping basically Anthony Edwards. That's just complete face guarding him. It's all effort, fighting through everything, staying with an arm on him at all times. It's like we sit here and go, oh yeah, everybody should be able to do that. They can't.

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These are like some of the rare guys in the league that can actually do it. They happen to have two of them on their same damn team. Dort does it, maybe gets into foul trouble. It's okay, we bring in Caruso to do it maybe even better. It's just embarrassment of riches with those two guys. And then of course, Cason Wallace even gets matched up at times. Now it's like this speedy little guy.

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Extremely entertaining game. One of the best games front to back of the postseason. I know there are a couple good ones in Clippers.

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nuggets obviously we've had we had some great nuggets thunder games like we've had some wild endings of course the Knicks comebacks and all that but it's it's on the short list here of this postseason I got one point I'm like you know we're always taking our notes and doing all that I'm like in the third quarter when the shot making was going nuts I'm like I'm just going to enjoy this.

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I'll just close the damn thing. I'll just re-watch it in the morning. It's just so good until we get into the fouling up three. And we can get to that in a second. But start random notes here or anything else, TK, from this game. Do you believe, Tess? Do you think the Wolves could get this back to Minnesota? No, it's over. I think it's over, for sure. On what night is that?

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Oh, we'll get into it. We'll get into it. Next to him, it's the bearded woman, top shot hot boy, Trey Kirby. Ayo, don't you know. Ayo, don't you know. And last but not least, over yonder, making the magic like that cold open happen, super producer JD.

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One of their guys, yeah. That's the thing. It's like they both were bad or quiet. Bad.

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These three have been brutal. Yeah. I was wrong. We had high hopes for this three. I thought it would be way better. And maybe it just takes time. I don't think so, though. It just does not work. Breen, Burke, and RJ, it is like a, I don't know, it feels like a March game to me. It just does not have the gravitas or it's not as fun or as entertaining as I thought it would be.

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So I'll take a big L on being wrong on this one. I've not been impressed by this group. Not a great mix.

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Going for the record, boys. Wow. Wow. That was gold, though. I like when you see one we've never seen before, too. It was new to me. I had not seen this. Wow, yeah. I was going to cut it up, but I was like, why?

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You have no idea how much Young Gravy we played in the Classic Factory after yesterday's show.

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Yeah, he was firing the t-shirt gun, wasn't he?

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Would you like to see the Thunder bring back KD, Westbrook, and Harden? Should they be there for a possible clinching game to go to the NBA Finals? They eliminated Westbrook.

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I've got to yell a lot of guys that are still around. Ibaka? I guess I could come back. Perkins, I guess. Perk, yeah. He's there. He'll be there. What else do you have? Random notes. Did you see the free throw merchant guy with his sign? Let's show it here. This made me laugh. Okay, whatever. They're doing the whole free throw merchant. Look at the little drawing. The stick man. Okay.

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I hope his kid did that. It just made me laugh. He decided to add that in. What a sign. What an insane chant, too. They're trying to get under his skin. I appreciate that. I respect that. We already brought up the other broadcast. Stop telling us SGA and Nikhil Alexander Walker are cousins, please.

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Let's get into one of the hot topics from last night, at least on the internet. We'll use Sean Fennessey's tweet here to get us started because there was this sentiment of the fouling up three strategy that OKC implemented in this game and successfully, if we're being honest, in the end it turned into a free throw contest.

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All right. On today's show, we're going to tee up tonight's game four in Indianapolis. We've got some NBA headlines to dissect and the prime moment of the week. It's a fun one. But first, let's talk basketball tasks. OKC reestablishing itself as the NBA's top title contender with the very entertaining 128-126 win over the Timberwolves last night. Very entertaining for 47 minutes and 30 seconds.

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Quote from Fennessey, the NBA needs to do something about intentionally fouling up three. It's the worst possible experience for end of game enjoyment. End quote. Again, TK, a whole lot of this. Do you agree? If so, do you have ideas to fix it? Or maybe you're like, it's okay.

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And in fact, we've already seen it this postseason backfire on the Thunder who did it in that loss to the Nuggets where they probably did it too early and obviously missed free throws. What's your take on all this?

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And of course, you know, they, again, Dagnall leans into like, okay, we're up three. We'll just foul Nas Reed. He's catching it. Just foul him right away. Like we'll, we'll live with him going to the free throw line. And then you get into like, obviously then they have to decide, well, when are we going to try and miss a free throw on purpose?

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And near the end, they did miss one and you know, SGA got it and then chucked it away. And then the guy caught it out of bounds. And then they decided there was 0.3 seconds left.

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uh it was just sort of an odd little ending to this game as well doris getting upset with the guy catching it too like he's steve bartman goddamn ball thrown to him on the sidelines the game was also over uh but anyway back to the fouling up three strategy uh as a you know as a viewer do you hate it can you live with it do you want the elam ending do you want to get nuts like what's your take

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And what do you mean by giving a shot? What do you think is the solution to the fouling up three thing? The defense is doing that because they have the lead.

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That's what he said. He said to eliminate the smart play of fouling up three is that it should be one shot and the ball if you foul outside the three-point line up three with the shot clock off. That was Nate Duncan's idea. I guess. So you're saying, though, try it. Give it a go in the G League. Yes. That's what we do.

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We'll get into the whole fouling part, but the Thunder now lead the series 3-1. Shea Gilvis-Alexander, 40 points, 10 assists, 9 boards for the MVP, while Anthony Edwards on the other side held to just 16 points. He had very few field goals in the first half, but in the end, Thunder get it done. Where do you want to start? Do you start with the big three of OKC, them shutting down Ant?

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Look, what we're getting at here is we just said, this game was awesome. It was. For like 47 minutes or whatever, it was like, this is an incredible basketball game. The shot making, the defense, the drama, the MVPs on one side doing well, the other guys doing... All this, all the narratives, all the stories.

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But then it happens, and we've seen it happen, is like these good basketball games just get super anticlimactic. And you said it, Trey. It's like suddenly just like, can a good free throw shooter... Just hit his free throw. And it's like, that's a skill. I mean, and he did miss one.

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And also, maybe as the defense, anybody but him, you can put three guys on Shea and leave somebody else open and maybe, you know, whatever. There's strategy to it all, and you can screw it up, but it's just not as fun. It's just like, go watch, you know how the NBA clips like the wild ending to the game. Go watch last night's. It's a 10-minute clip.

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And the game time they show you is something like two minutes. And this is them editing crap out too. It took so long because of all of this. Because the foul, the foul, the foul, the foul. It's basically going both ways. So that's not good. It's not a good product. It isn't. Unless you're like a free throw sicko.

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Exactly. We know one in our life. Literally one. But it's just not, especially for casuals and even diehards, where it's like, oh, we want entertainment. We want it to be decided on tough shots and stuff like that. So I get it. But I like the idea of trying one of these rules. Hell, if you want to go Elamending, I think that has complications as well.

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That could end on free throws too, and you could get into different scenarios there. But I'm with you. Try stuff in the G League and see if it gives us a better product. And if it does, then you bring it up.

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Let's hear from you when it comes to the intentionally fouling up three. Do you hate it? Can you live with it? A lot of counters are like, well, don't be down three, you know, to the team. That's fair. Absolutely fair. What's your opinion on it? I know you're letting us know in the stream team right now.

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Continue the conversation in the YouTube comments and you can tweet at us as well at NoDunksInc.

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Nobody's upset with that part of the strategy. It's the flip side of it. It's the team that is on defense that is up three points that is decided because the numbers seem to work out in their favor, especially if you have a decent free throw shooting team.

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Hey, instead of letting this guy, because all these guys can shoot threes now and they're so damn good at it and they can pull from 35, instead of getting Damian Lillard or whatever or Halliburton or whoever, just foul him. And that's not as exciting. It's just not. We want to see the crazy Halliburton shot bounce up and go in. They could have fouled. Should have fouled him.

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Well, actually, no, they couldn't because they were down two and he was on line. Anyway, but let's hear from you, man. We could go on all day about this.

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Other parts of this game, where do you want to go?

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It's funny you say that because I thought, maybe this is a little body language doctor here, I thought that the Wolves were a little upset with Nas Reid. Okay, because they had a foul to give. So that, Thunder foul. I think they fouled Nas, actually. Then it went back to Nas on the side, and I thought they were a little upset. The Wolves were like, hey man, like...

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turn and pretend you're going to shoot at least because maybe you'll get the three-point call. Now, he didn't sort of at all. He sort of just caught it. It was a smart, quick foul. And then, of course, we had the Anthony Edwards one where that one they're bringing it up to court, and they're like, okay, just when he gets around half court, he's probably not going to pull from there.

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Okay, here's another thing. If you want to try and fix this without changing any rules, these guys got to get a lot better at missing free throws. Sure. I mean, we have talked to Brent Berry about this in the past. Years ago, he said that the Spurs used to, in practice, literally go through practice trying to miss free throws on certain parts of the rim so it would bounce certain ways.

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These guys are that skilled that they can do that. Like, all right, hey, I'm going to have it miss, and it's going to go to the right corner. So don't even pretend to line up and box out, but don't. Just sprint to the right corner. That's where the ball is going. I mean, you could, I guess, just continue to work on this.

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I know the ball has a mind of its own when it hits that rim sometimes, but they are that good. So maybe that's another way to defeat this. That's a great point.

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And we've seen people do the quick one off the front.

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There's been a lot of free throws. Consider any time SGA gets fouled, and we're talking about those.

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It's the loneliest place in the world. That's enough free throw talk. Okay, that's enough. Thunder up 3-1. Do you think it's a wrap there on Wednesday night, or can the Wolves maybe give us a game six?

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Yeah. I wonder what robot tie out there. Yeah. Like I wonder what goal scorer in NHL history has gone through the five hole the most. I bet it's Gretzky.

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And never, from what I can recall, didn't explain it at all. They did discuss what they were doing, and they just decided on .3. I mean, did they just decide, like, this game's over, but give them a chance to catch and shoot? That's kind of what it felt like. Because .3 is obviously the least amount of time you can get a shot.

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Man. Like, did we ever get a good angle? Like, I mean, people are crapping on that guy, but was, like, did he really reach inbounds to catch it? In his defense, I thought he was, he stood up, and then the ball was coming at him, and he did catch it while he was standing out of bounds. I don't think that's, like, I don't know. I don't think he did anything wrong, in my opinion.

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You know I would have caught it. I know you would have caught it. You would have caught it. We all would have caught it. I'm sorry. You're not going to be like, oh.

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Well, if you're a Wolves fan, I mean, it was a brilliant move. He absolutely should try and do it. So you think he did it on purpose? I think he just instinctively grabbed a basketball. See, I don't think your instincts would do that. Oh, I disagree. I know I would do that. Are you kidding me?

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He gave the, they were building a statue for that guy if they had pulled off a miraculous three there. Because he got them more time. Yeah, he did. Just by catching it. I don't know what, I mean, did it just slip out of Shea's hands? Okay, great question, great question.

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It came over. Anyway, it didn't matter in the end. Well, who inbounded the play at the end? Julius Randle. Julius Randle, which obviously came up a million feet short. But was that tipped by Holmgren? Or did he just throw the worst pass ever?

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Well, at least give it some arc. I don't know if it was tipped at all. I'm guessing it was because it was so short. But then again, maybe you just flubbed it. I don't know. They were going to need basically just chuck it at the rim and hopefully somebody tips it in. Or you hope for a foul in that call.

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What a game. Let's get in a little is this news. I got some headlines for the guys here. Let's debate whether or not they're actually newsworthy. First one from Tim Bontemps of ESPN, our guy, Timmy Goodtimes. Aaron Neesmith, likely game time decision for game four tonight. Tass, we'll start with you. Is this news?

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Because he doesn't trust his one ankle as much.

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He had a noticeable limp in the locker room after game three, but again, these game times, I guess his list is questionable. It's all the same thing. He's a maybe here, TK. Could be the case of just how he feels in warm-ups tonight. Or they could just be playing us and he's going to go, like Taz said, and they just want to keep the Knicks guessing maybe a little bit. What do you think?

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Yeah, and how quickly, if he is limited, how quickly Carlisle, you're right, pulls him or goes to somebody else. If he's limping out there and maybe getting exposed a little bit and just not giving you what we've come to love about this guy, like all the heart and hustle. from Neespeth. But if the ankle's that bad, you know, you say he returns, but a lot of that can be adrenaline in the moment.

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And then that thing, you know, obviously the game ends and that thing can swell up and be worse after the fact. I get you. It's like, oh, well, he played in the game, he got injured, but I think it does change a little bit. Sure. All that to say, I'm with you guys. He's going to give it a go at the very least.

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Next headline, sticking with this series though, this one from Shams yesterday. Tyrese Halliburton's dad allowed into Pacers home games. TK John Halliburton is going to be in the building tonight, but he's going to be in a suite. He will not be sitting courtside. Is this news?

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okay for those that don't remember pops uh missed the entire second round playoff series against the cavaliers following an on-court confrontation with yannis at the end of game five of that first round series where he was hyped coming out swearing at yannis by all accounts and uh that's why he got this punishment where he wasn't allowed to show up at these games tass is this news and do you think he has uh served his time here and can now see his son play even if he's way up in the sweeps

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Okay. He did apologize. Giannis said they cleared the air. John apologized. Halliburton, Tyrese was like, Yeah, he sort of called out his dad, to be honest. That's sort of stupid, man. That was a bad look. And then, yeah, again, this is not the NBA. The NBA did not say John Halliburton couldn't come.

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It was the Pacers themselves as an organization that said, all right, you got to chill out here, John. Wave in your son's towel there. Maybe just take a moment, take a couple games, but now he can get back in the building here. He will not be going to New York, back to Madison Square Garden. He will not be allowed in road games, I guess.

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You should do like, was it Bobby Valentine, the manager back in the day, got tossed from a game and then showed up in a mustache? Yeah, he did. Halliburton should try that. John Halliburton. Like for Madison Square Garden.

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Funny you said that. I was going to say, what's the over-under on John Halliburton shots tonight on the broadcast, TNT? What do you set the line up? One and a half, two and a half? You know we're going to see him in the suite. At least once. But how many times do we go back to him? Part of that depends on how Tyrese is playing. Definitely. If he's cooking, you probably see him more.

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Maybe he's struggling to see him more. I don't know. Okay, let me set the line at two and a half. Two and a half John Halliburtons. What do you got? Over or under?

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Do we count the pregame? Maybe they have a short pregame. They have a short pregame. I think we should count it. Come on. We should count those five minutes.

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Fair. But TNT, man. What does TNT care? This is good.

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Show them. Give me the over. Give me three John Halliburts tonight.

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All right, final headline here. CBS Sports gives us this one. Gary Payton defends Mavs GM Nico Harrison after Luka Doncic trade.

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This was on Gary saying all this and standing for Nico on the Club 520 podcast. Shout out to Teague and that crew. He was saying this and the other part that Gary Payton was saying was the idea of like, hey, the Mavericks aren't bad if everybody's healthy. He kept talking about that. Like once they get their whole team healthy, Dallas is going to be a beast to quote Gary Payton.

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So he's doing both things, right? Like, okay, yeah, it wasn't just Nico Harrison's decision to trade Luka. And, oh, by the way, it's not as bad as you say it is or think it is, even though he's wrong. It's still a dumb trade, in my opinion. But he's saying, when we get all these guys healthy, they're going to be a really good team. So just wait. So he's saying two things.

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Did you see, speaking of Gatorade, see JD McDaniels last night? I think he did the post-game press conference. Unless this is an older clip and I hadn't seen it until last night. He's sitting there. He wraps up taking the questions. And then he's like, he literally picks up the Gatorade because it's there for sponsorship reasons. He's like, can I have this? And then somebody says no.

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And he's like all bummed out. He's like, all right, guess I'll grab my own. Take it, man.

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Also, like, but... I'm sure that Gatorade's been, like, it'd be warm. Why does he want the warm Gatorade?

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Yeah. My wife likes room temp. Not Gatorade, but water and stuff like that. She'll even go one step further. She's now boiling water to then put in her, like, you know, in her cup. And then lets it cool. I'm like, what?

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No, it's not to purify it. It's more to get it warm. She wants it warmer.

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But that's like boiling water, but then you have to let it get back to normal temperature. Very strange.

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It's very weird to me. I'll drink a room temperature water. No problem. Watch me. You're crazy, bro. I'd prefer a cold Gatorade to a room temperature Gatorade.

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It's tougher to chug a cold water, so yes, I will.

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You're on an airplane. They're coming around with water. You asking for cubes or no?

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Oh, you're a pass me the can? Full can of ginger ale, please. They'll give it to you, but that's a nice, bold move by you. Give me the can. I paid for that. All right, let's get into the prime moment of the week. Prime moment of the week. If you've ever questioned whether Timothee Chalamet was a true Knicks fan, just stop. This dude bleeds orange and blue, baby.

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On Sunday, the Oscar-nominated actor traveled to Indiana to watch his Knicks take on the Pacers in Game 3. And look at this look from Chalamet. He showed up looking like the bad boy of bowling. Yeah! Shout out to Pete Webber. Shout out to Rick Kenmore, who was doing a Pete Webber. Who do you think you are? I wonka! My God, what a look from Chalamet. So props to him for supporting his team.

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Yeah, he truly is, though. I was thinking about this. He's like our new age Jack Nicholson, this guy. Like this young, popular actor that loves his team. Jack had the Lakers and Chalamet's got the Knicks, man. Props to this guy. Come on, no dunk, Chalamet.

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The Prime Moment of the Week is presented by Amazon Prime. From streaming to shopping, it's on Prime. Visit Amazon.com slash Prime to get more out of whatever you're into. Good stuff, Chalamet. And yes, open invite to come on No Dunks. All right, we'll call it there. Great stuff from the stream team here this morning.

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That's very nice. I agree. I agree. And I would love to see, where's the Hawkeye camera on this guy, NBA? That's right. Did he cross the plane? Because if he did, that's a different conversation. I'm with you. But I thought that thing was coming at him. He also thought the game was over, as everybody did. Oh, of course. Yes, he did. I'll catch it. I'll catch it. You have to keep it.

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That'd be awesome. All right, hit the like button, subscribe if you thought this was a classic. Podcast listeners, five-star ratings and reviews. We're back tomorrow morning at 10 a.m. Eastern from the Classic Factory here to talk about hopefully another entertaining game in that Austin awesome Eastern Conference Finals between the Pacers and Knicks. Will Chalamet be there again? Did he leave?

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Did he just go to St. Elmo's Steakhouse? Has he just been living there?

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Or did he maybe, I don't know, go somewhere and come back? He probably went somewhere and came back. Spike was not there in Game 3, was he? He's been superseded.

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Well, we'll be back tomorrow to talk about tonight's game. Hopefully it's another great one. Until then, Clipper Bros.

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It's just ice. Airplane ice is ground ice just put onto an airplane. Is it not?

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I don't think they're making the ice up there. But I have no idea to actually check that. Yeah, how would they do it? There's no way to do it. If you're a steward, stewardess, let us know. Do you make the ice in the sky? Or do you just put it on? Which is what I think you do.

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A lot of people don't know it's a co-captain's job to grab the ice. Grab the ice. Alright, embrace the day, people.

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Yeah, I loved, you know, when so much attention is paid to SGA and J-Dub, it is paramount that the rest of those Thunder guys hit open shots, you know, consistently, and they did in this game. I think it was something like, of Shea's 10 assists, eight of them were on three-pointers. And the other one was Chet Holmgren with his foot on the line. So it was basically a three-pointer.

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It was a very deep two. So many of those Wolves load up in the gaps, but he's finding these guys and they're finally hitting them here in Game 4. Because they were a really good three-point shooting team during the regular season. It's something we talked about. At some point, their threes are going to start falling with some consistency. And just, yeah. methodically played by SGA.

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Just the perfect balance of scoring, putting on the pressure, and then setting up guys. And man, J-Dub, I looked at that game as like a bookend game because he started the game awesome for them, right? Came out scoring right away. He hit, I think he, you know, he hit five of his first six shots, scored 13 in the first quarter. A lot of those were three-pointers. He also had that

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Very pretty left-hand layup where he scooped it high off the glass. So he started the game great, and then he ended just as strong. Huge plays in the fourth quarter for J-Dub. 14 points on 5-7 shooting in the final frame. So, like, awesome game from him. And then, yeah, Chet. I mean, what a block on McDaniels.

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I mean, that may be... That was a huge play in this game where there were multiple just big plays. Especially the Wolves. Like you said, they always had an answer. They always had a corner three. Like, always. And it was SGA or J-Dub or Chet coming back on the other end. just to give them the breathing room.

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When you got down the stretch there, when things got tight, they always seemed to have a big shot from one of those three guys or a big defensive play in Chet's case.

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They didn't hesitate, either, those guys. But, you know, Shea, he's the MVP. You're never worried about that. J-Dub, no hesitation. Chet. A guy that we've questioned a few times, even in this postseason run. There's been games where we get on here and go like, is he a little shook? Are the lights a little too bright? Like, I know this is sort of new for him.

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He hasn't had a lot of postseason experience. Not in that game. I mean, it was like, the confidence is just growing and growing with him. Like, he's the one to me, like... really blossoming here in this postseason run even maybe more than some of the other guys. And again, probably just because he's had less games in the postseason.

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No, they're getting more and more comfortable is what I'm seeing through this entire podcast.

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Yeah, especially when the defense loads up on Ant, gets the ball out of his hands. Like, Ant, you know, we are crapping on, like, obviously not a lot of shot attempts and not a great scoring game. But a lot of times, making the right play, a lot of those corner threes created by him. So doing that, but I'm with you.

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Like, because, you know, their secondary guard, I mean, ball handler, it turns into Julius Randle a lot of the times. And against this team, it's like, he puts the ball on the ground, zoom. Like it's like they attack right away. And that's why, I mean, he was brutal, very bad in this game. Got in his head. Yeah. Give him a call.

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He even said it after the game. They played him pretty similarly to how they did in games one and two. OKC did. Like, loading up, Chet ready for the help, and him trying to just become a playmaker. Now it was closer, because yeah, all these guys were hitting shots. They were hitting all these threes.

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That's why we had a close game, unlike games one and two, where it sort of got out of hand there, and the Thunder pulled away in those third quarters. But yeah, he does need, of course... Look, with Shea, with the Thunder, I should say, coming into the postseason, all we wondered was, will his co-stars... be there to carry him in games to obviously go far in the postseason. And they are.

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They're starting to get better and better in J-Dub and Chet. And now we see it like Ant's going to need that as well. It can't all be Ant. Like, do you want them just to, like, start forcing the action and driving in there? Maybe at times. Maybe when you want to stop the bleeding. But, again, they were scoring. That wasn't the issue at all.

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Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast presented by Amazon Prime. It's Tuesday, May 27th, 2025. I want to give a standing O to that cold open. That was incredible. I'm J.E. Skeets here in the Classic Factory, and alongside me, as always, Tass Skarsgård. Yeah, I wish. I wish I was acting right now.

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They scored a ton of points against the best defense all year. That's a lot of points. They just couldn't. They could not stop them. And I didn't love his defensive impact. Like, did Ant do anything even on that end? No. No, and then along with the turnovers, of course, though.

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Hilarious Kelly Dwyer stat, if you want to call it that, or at least point that made me chuckle. So Mike Conley.

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really actually hit a lot of his threes in that regular season matchup again missing a lot of guys like trey noted that that's definitely a fair point but he was good he was 9 to 17 from three mike conley was a large improvement kelly dwyer wrote on the one of five conley shot on threes in three contests against the seattle supersonics in 0708 as a rookie Yeah, that's right.

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Conley's playing the Thunder here in the conference finals, and he played against the Seattle Supersonics in his rookie season. That made me laugh that Mike Conley, as Kelly noted, has worked against the New Jersey Nets, the New Orleans Hornets, and the Charlotte Bobcats as well as the Seattle Supersonics. Mike Conley. Been around the block.

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This is it. Any other X-Factors or any other notes before we go to our predictions? All right. Tass, get us started here. Where are you leaning? Thunderwolves, what's your prediction?

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Okay, so you have Thunder in six.

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comfortably just because they're so good turning defense into offense i think the turnovers are going to be a big time problem for minnesota and that is the one thing you can't do against okc and they're the best turnover forcing team that we've seen in the 2020s yeah their ability just to force turnovers that's that could be the difference i mean when we get into these games that's flirting with 20 turnovers and it feels like it's a wrap and that's an okc win if minnesota can't take control of the ball and those are live ball turnovers at that hey if you're going to turn it over minnesota chuck it out of bounds

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We'll start out west. where the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Oklahoma City Thunder square off in a battle here of rising powers. Thunder franchise, they do, I guess, have a championship from the Sonics days, but they've yet to win one since relocating to OKC. As for Minnesota, they're still in search of their first NBA Finals appearance.

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Don't get it popped away there by a Caruso or a Wallace because that's a track meet and they're going to score. Both teams here are qualified, obviously, to advance to the final boss. OKC won 68 games. I know I keep saying it, but I think it gets glossed over. That's awesome. You can bet on their defense, as you guys talked about. They beat Jokic.

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They do feel like they gained some confidence in getting over that hump. And even if it took seven, they got there. They have the soon to be named. Maybe one day to be named MVP in Shea Gildas Alexander. What the hell is going on, NBA? So that's cool. But Minnesota, man, to give them credit, they made it to this stage last season.

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And so many times we see that step-by-step progression with really good teams. You get to that level, then you lose, and you get to the next level. So maybe that's in their favor, being to the conference finals last year. They're one of the hottest teams in the Western Conference since 2019. March, one of the hottest teams in the league, really, since March and when Randall came back.

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And they got Ant. And I'm excited to see Ant here in this battle versus all those guys that we talked about in the Thunder. But all that said, I go back to something you said, Tass, about the three-point shooting. You said at 32%, 31.9% the Thunder have shot from three this postseason. On a lot of attempts, 39 attempts per game, I think that's the most of the final four teams here as well.

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I think that's going to come back to the mean a little bit. I think that's going to tick up a little bit from some of their shooters here. I think Holmgren's going to have a big series. And then I think, you know, obviously Caruso's probably going to get more opportunity. Maybe you have another good dork game. Wiggins, Wallace, all these guys. And because of that, I'm going Thunder in six as well.

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We've got 666. Everybody taking OKC here at the desk. What are the people saying in our poll?

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Yeah. Seems like a popular pick. I mean, obviously, a lot of people think it could go seven, and maybe the home court advantage will come through again for OKC.

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like it's nice to see when you go to the espn uh experts and their picks uh unlike some of the previous series where it was just all of them for one team this one in both of these conference finals it's a little more balanced i think okc is still like eight to five or something uh in this series on espn and even i i know the athletic doing it as well there's a couple people picking the wolves in the series and then the same thing as we get to the east

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You know, you can talk yourself into any four of these teams, obviously, some particular matchup getting in the end. Definitely.

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I'm starting to wonder if OKC has said, we don't want to do it at all during our playoff run. And then are thus like saying to the NBA, we're not doing it at all until we're done. Which is, we've never done that before that I can remember. So I don't know. Like, otherwise it doesn't make much sense. We've had tons of opportunities here.

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though they're just four wins away from going to that final round so let's break it down chime in in the stream team your thoughts your predictions but we usually start with things to watch in this one versus six matchup weird yeah right what are the wolves the wolves think they're the rockets from the 90s here as a 60 trying to go win the whole thing but Tass let's start with you what's something you got your eye on heading into Thunderwolves that starts tonight yeah baby

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Until they lose. What I'm starting to convince myself, it's like... Maybe. You know, the Thunder, they operate like the Spurs, right? Yeah, they're weird. A little bit, yeah. They're just like... There's just like so like we don't want to bring attention to that, whatever. But I don't know.

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Again, I guess. It's odd. It's odd. I think we are learning all rookie teams today, though. Finally. Yes. Finally.

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We don't know all NBA teams either, do we? No. Okay. So that should come this week. Maybe. All right. So we got Thunder and Six. The people, you said like 62% here in our stream team poll. Also going with OKC. But obviously get your takes there in the stream team.

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Let's move to the East. where a classic rivalry is renewed as the Knicks take on the Pacers with a trip to the NBA Finals on the line. For both teams, stakes couldn't be higher. Either the Knicks chase their first championship in over half a century, or the Pacers will aim to capture their first NBA title in franchise history. Don't you worry, those ABA banners fly forever. That's right.

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1973, big year. That's huge. Huge year for both teams. That's right. So one thing to watch in the number three-seeded Knicks versus number four-seeded Pacers. We'll start with you, Trey.

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Aren't Nemhard, Nesmith, and Siakam the three best shooters right now in the playoffs in terms of efficiency?

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I want to know if the Knicks starters can hold their own against these Pacers starters because we saw how many times the Knicks starters were in a hole in a hurry in that Celtics series. I don't think that can happen against this Pacers team.

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Their starters, their first unit, Halliburton, Nembhardt, Neesmith, Siakam, and Miles Turner destroyed opponents in the regular season by 12.2 points per 100 possessions. They've been even better here in the playoffs. So the Knicks can just not get into these holes. That's not going to work in this series, I don't think, against Indiana and the speed they play with. And that's the other part.

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Which team can make the other team play their game? That'll be a huge talking point. You can hear Reggie Miller telling it to you now on the broadcast because New York plays slow. 28th in seconds per possession. Indiana, up-tempo offense, they're like 6th in seconds per possession. So they're run, run, run. So...

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Who can, like, sort of win that battle of, like, no, no, no, let's drag you down, play a more methodical game? Can the Knicks do that to the Pacers? Or, obviously, can the Pacers get the Knicks going in sort of this run-and-gun style and say, oh, yeah, we love it? So I can't wait to see how that changes from game to game and whether that has an impact on who can even play in this series.

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The Knicks always talk about wanting to play fast, and I don't believe them.

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Yeah, and Halliburton, when we talk about the pace and all that and the speed of the game, Halliburton leads the Pacers in minutes at 34 per game. That's it. Because they have a deep, deep team. They play a lot of guys. Every player in the Knicks starting lineup averaging at least 36 minutes played. And we're talking Bridges and OG. Those guys are flirting with like 40. So is Brunson.

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He might be at 40 in this series. And you just wonder, can a team with like that really short bench and like leaning heavily on big minutes from their starters, can they survive Indy's like full court press? Like they're going to be out there full court pressing them because McConnell's going to play, you know, Mathren's going to play, like they'll get out there and that's their whole MO.

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It's like, we think we can just out grind you just because we just like, you're just going to get exhausted. But then again, the Knicks seem like built for this, as if they've put in marathon training all season long because they play heavy minutes. So maybe they're the one team that can sustain it. I can't wait to see. Anything else to watch or let's go to X-Factors. Who do you got circled here?

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Who you got as a Knicks passer?

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Unless Tibbs tries to put Cat on a forward, the defensive matchups will likely be Bridges on Halliburton, OG on Siakam. Hart on Nembhard. Brunson on Neesmith. Obviously could flip those two. And then Karl-Anthony Towns on Turner. That's the main point here. And that's what you talked about at the beginning, Trey. We'll probably start with that. Towns versus Turner. Turner versus Towns.

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But how will Towns deal with that pick and pop that Halliburton and Turner will try and run? I can't wait to see that because... Turner, he is like a streaky three-point shooter. Like when he's on, he'll let it fly and he can connect because he's a willing three-point shooter. In the three games this postseason, he's hit three or more three-pointers. All wins, of course.

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In the one loss to Milwaukee, Turner was 0 for 6 from deep. And in the one loss to Cleveland, he only got two attempts up. He was in foul trouble that game. He had very little impact on that game. And that's when we started to see the zone in the thing and then they figured it out. So Turner to me is what I'm getting at here is a big X factor, I think. for the Pacers.

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And Towns is the big part of that because, yeah, what are you doing? Are you staying back? Are you coming up? Is there pre-switches and all that? Because if Halliburton gets switched onto Towns too, that's different than how Towns did against Tatum and Brown. Halliburton's just quicker. He's just way quicker. He will not size up Towns like a Tatum or Brown will.

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He will go, go, go, and he will blow by him and then either score at the rim or inside or obviously splash out to three-point shooters.

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Yeah. He's got wiggle. He's quick. He's smart, obviously. He doesn't settle for jumpers. Now, he loves that step back. Three, he feels super comfortable taking that. So if you back up too much, he's going to do that. So that's fun. And then I also have OG as a next factor. Crazy stat going around from Tommy Beer, which is such a great name.

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He has, in the eight games New York has won this postseason, OG is averaging 19 points per game on 16 field goal attempts. In the four games they lost, OG, nine points per game, 10 field goal attempts. And there's another stat, like, if OG shoots, like, 14 times or something this game, it's, like, this season, like, they're really, really good records. Same with Bridges when he scores.

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Like, those guys, they got to help out Brunson. Cat's been great against Indiana his entire, like, career. He has, like, awesome numbers against them. Had 40 on them this year. I guess that was a February game. So he's probably going to score. It's going to – whether or not he gets exploited defensively, but –

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OG man like it might be like when OG plays well they just have they look sort of become that unbeatable team I feel like uh but he has to be aggressive and tack and he's got to hit those threes that he gets as well he's been really really good this postseason yeah I kind of think it's going to be OG versus Siakam I know Tass doesn't care anymore but for other Raptors fans they might and I kind of think whichever one of them scores 20 in a game their team is going to win yeah

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Yeah, could be. Because, man, yeah, when OG's going... Now, Siakam, I have more confidence in doing that... What's the word I'm looking for? Consistently?

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Yes, yes. But when OG is going, they level up. The Knicks do. So, fun to watch that battle. I can't wait for that one. And they're going to be on each other, too. A majority of the series, I think. All right, predictions. Trey, we'll start with you. Knicks Pacers. Now, I think we know where we're going because you said it a while ago, so you're sticking with it.

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Pacers in six as well. One thing that maybe won't matter, we'll find out, I guess, is home court advantage because both these teams are awesome road teams. New York, 24-17 in the regular season, 5-1 through two rounds. Indiana, 19-9 on the road from December 6th on, and finished 4-1 on the road, playing Milwaukee and Cleveland during these playoffs.

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So both really good road teams, so maybe that gets us to a long series here. Everyone I've seen predict this series, I've never seen somebody go in five for one of these teams. I've seen a couple when we were talking about the West. You know, there's some people saying...

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you know thunder and five or maybe the wolves overpower them whatever but this one everybody i see is like six or seven feels like it's going to be that i am going to go nixon seven i i love what they've gone through here in these first two rounds that piston series definitely making them maybe a little tougher physically mentally obviously what they did to overcome the defending champs there they got helped with the tatum injury but they were up 3-1 when that happened if we're being completely honest so would they have taken one more even if tatum's playing i think so

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so I'm going Knicks in 7 and maybe we get a Madison Square Garden game 7 again that's what they did last year and there was a lot of injuries to the Knicks last year the Knicks still got it 2-7 now different teams and got smoked and got smoked in that game that was like the insane shooting game from the Pacers in that one yeah I do have a question, though, with this one.

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How do you think Tyrese Halliburton trolls Knicks fans in this series? Any creative ideas?

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Okay, so stealing a celebration. I think he might steal an old Steve Novak double discount check celebration, like the Aaron Rodgers doing this. Because I say that because, you know, we got the Halliburton Brunson WWE angle. So you got the championship belt. I think he'll do that. What about this one? Halliburton shows up to a game dressed as Willy Wonka to get in Timothee Chalamet's head.

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Even though you've compared him before a little bit to LeBron, how Anthony Edwards does seem to feel out a game, feel out a series, or at least that's what he's shown us. And it's worked out, obviously, getting to the conference finals. But yeah, they just have so many perimeter guys to throw at them. You're going to start in the torture chamber.

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Well, I think he's going to do... Maybe even just throw the Wonka top hat on. You should wear a top hat. You can see him coming down the tunnel.

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I can absolutely see him wearing a top hat. And then what about, you said, Reggie on the call of TNT, final broadcast for TNT. It feels like there's going to be a huge shot from Halliburton. He's going to be dapping up Reggie Miller while he's on the call and people are going to lose their shit.

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That's right. And we were wondering why he didn't do the choke when he decided to do the big ball dance. But we thought maybe he is trying to save it. Save it. He's going to save it for Madison Square Garden. All right. Other ideas. Let's get the stream team going here. Other ways Halliburton might try and troll the Knicks and their fan base here in this series. Because he loves it.

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He might come dressed as a garbage man. He might. Halliburton. Yeah, Halliburton, game one or two. He might show up dressed as a garbage man.

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Oh, because it doesn't give us the decibels. It doesn't give us the decibels.

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So the Knicks, you say, just taking it? No, the Pacers just taking it. Oh, Pacers just taking it. Wow, that is tight. These guys, again, Pacers in six. I'm going Knicks in seven. We did have a YouTube poll up over the last couple days. It was almost nearly 5,000 votes on this thing. When we got to the final four, it was who do you got winning the championship?

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This was cool to see because, again, it's like semi-evenly split in terms of winning the whole thing. But OKC, Trey, taking a majority of the vote, which wasn't really surprising, I guess.

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So you got Lou Dort on you, but of course we're going to see Caruso on him, probably Kaysen Wallace at times, maybe even J-Dub. I guess in theory SGA could get matched on him at times. There's a lot of great perimeter defenders, and this is an elite defense. So Ant is a big one.

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Yeah. By the way, Esh, our guy Esh, has Wolves in seven. So he's going against our picks of Thunder in six. And then he's going Knicks in six. That's the picks, according to Esh. I'm going Knicks in seven. But we're at the point, you could predict any NBA Finals matchup and the subsequent outcome, and I would be like... Yep. I can see it. Sure. Anyone. I'd be like, oh, yeah, sure.

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That makes sense. Yeah, that would be awesome because it feels like we're going to have some great series here in the conference finals. Absolutely. We're in a new era. New teams. New guys. Feels great. All right. Let's get to the prime moment of the week.

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And the Prime Moment of the Week is presented by Amazon Prime. From streaming to shopping, it's on Prime. Visit Amazon.com slash Prime to get more out of whatever you're into.

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You do that again? What's he better known as?

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There's been a lot of content, obviously, the Knicks going on another run here. A lot of these similar videos, if not done by Sidetalk themselves, of talking to crazy Knicks fans. There's some characters. We're going to see it firsthand. Potentially. We are headed to New York. In hours.

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We've got to get on a plane, and we're going for some work meetings there at the athletic, obviously, Times building. But, yeah, we're going to be there in the city, at least, for Wednesday night's game one. Will we be in the arena? TBD. I just got a great idea. Okay. You have Pacers gear.

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I do have an entire Pacers kit. You can do that.

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Well, maybe it would get me tickets to Game 3 or 4 in Indiana.

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Okay. Thanks. All right, so we got Game 1 of the Western Conference Finals tonight, 8.30 p.m. Eastern. This is the Wolves versus Thunder, and we already made our predictions, so big game here, and we'll see, yeah, we'll see whether OKC's a little bit better in Game 1, not having that long layoff like they did between the first and second rounds. Here's the plan.

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We're going to be going live tonight after this game on YouTube, flipping it into a podcast, so we'll have two podcasts for you today here on Tuesday. Two podcasts from two different states.

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Because that one will be coming to you from a hotel room in New York City. At around, I don't know, how long these take? Three hours? Ballpark. 11 or 11.30 we'll be on. Yeah.

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Yeah, so we will see you from New York later tonight. Make sure you hit the notification button. Make sure you subscribe. Hit the like button, all that, so you know when we're going live again later tonight. Podcast listeners, help us out. Five-star ratings and reviews. And, yeah, keep your eye on a late-night pod recapping Game 1 of the Western Conference Finals.

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All right, until then, Clipper Bros.

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Brace the day, people. We'll see you later tonight.

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Yeah, that's a good point. On the other side, I am curious to see how much, uh, wolves zone defense they throw at OKC because we saw Denver did have some success with that. Like it, I don't know if it caught OKC by surprise, but they were struggling. They were shooting too early in it. They weren't really penetrating inside in some of those games, and Denver really went to it.

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Sort of a 2-3 zone, though you could almost call it like we talked about. At times it was like a 2-1-2 zone where the Jokic was sort of more in the middle pulled up instead of at the back line. And that'll be fascinating to see what the Wolves do if they try it as well.

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You have great defenders out there in your team in McDaniels and then Rudy Gobert as a four-time defense player of the year, but he can operate in the zone, but is that where he's best served? And I'm just fascinated to see how much Finch will implement it against OKC because, again, it did work for huge stretches of that Nuggets series. So why wouldn't you try it, I think?

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We talked about Ant and maybe his struggles in the regular season versus the Thunder. The opposite happened with SGA versus Minnesota this year. His numbers were crazy in the regular season against many. He averaged 35 points, seven boards, nearly seven assists in the four games he played. Shot 56% from the floor. Excuse me, 56% from three.

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So he actually was hitting his three ball against Minnesota. And he got to the free throw line a ton, too. And I think... That's something to watch. Early in these games, does McDaniels get into foul trouble? Early. Does he pick up two, three early ones through the first 15 minutes or so of the game?

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Because the Wolves have to take, I think, at least... You've got to take away one of those facets of SGA's game. Either getting him on the free throw line and racking up easy points that way, or obviously trying to take away the three ball and just all of that scoring that he had in the success he had against them.

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It can't be all of that, because there's no way they win the series, in my opinion, if he's like...

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click in from three he's got the scoring and he's getting to the free throw line as well as setting up guys it gotta shut off something uh and obviously they're gonna they're gonna have confidence in it because it's crazy he had those numbers but McDaniels is a great defender and like it's the type of guy you'd want to put on him and I'm sure we're gonna see some Nikhil Alexander Walker as well on on his cousin he's gonna take his head off completely yeah yes that's right so I think Gobert only played one game against yeah yeah yeah so I think these are these regular season matchups are real toilet bowl defense flush them away

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I was going to say they had a weird stretch there where they had the back-to-back road series, like they went back and forth between OKC and Minnesota on back-to-back nights, and then they played another one right around there too. But it was, you know, I guess it was in February, some of those actions, yeah. Around there.

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Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast presented by Amazon Prime. It's Tuesday, May 20th, 2025. I'm Jay Skeets here in the Classic Factory, and alongside me, as always, Tass Mellis. Happy conference finals, everybody. Next to him, it's the bearded one, my top shot hot boy, fixing his collar, Trey Kirby.

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Yeah. Yeah. But you said it. I mean, okay, see, that's one shot they give up. Yeah, exactly. They'll give up the corner three. So you got to knock them down when these guys are open. All those guys.

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This is the best basketball he's ever played, I think, in these high-stakes games. He's averaging 24-6-6, shooting 51% in the postseason. And he's also done this thing where multiple instances, Randall has just kept Minnesota in games. He's kept them afloat. And it sort of gets overlooked because we focus more on the second half and the fourth quarters and the clutch play, but like...

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he allows anthony rhythms anthony rhythms he allows anthony edwards to find his rhythm and then sort of like turn it on in second half that's he's been huge randall early parts of game so he's got to continue that but yeah i can't wait to see what dagnall did like who they put on him like Caruso will get a chance to obviously bang with him. So that'll be fun.

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On the other side, Chet Holmgren, Minnesota boy. I think you're going to see the Thunder use him as a center in this to see if they can pull Rudy away from the rim. And he needs to be able to hit shots. He's been, like, he's been really good, I think, in the postseason. I don't think Chet's been amazing.

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Hey, yay! And over yonder, making the magic happen, super producer JD. Hello. There he is. Here we are. Hello to everybody on YouTube. Yes, happy conference finals day to all that celebrate. Hit the like button, subscribe, podcast listeners, five-star ratings and reviews. We are previewing and predicting both conference finals series today. We got the final four. It's officially set.

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But I wonder if this is the series where he's unlocked and has a little more confidence to let it fly if Rudy, if we see that five-on-five, the two bigs there. Because he needs to do that. It allows, it opens up everything. It allows SGA and J-Dub to drive more if Rudy's, like, a step or two more because he's got to worry about Holmgren shooting three. So I'm excited for that one as well.

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Let's keep it going here. We had the Bucs winning 101-100. You had a late Giannis block on Shen Goon. And then Lillard had a beautiful little layup at the end as the go-ahead bucket to snap the Rockets' five-game win streak. It was a fun game. We watched a lot of this ending on playback last night. And then Dyson Daniels had a game-winning block. Or steal. Call it a stock. It was a bit of both.

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As the Hawks beat the Kings 109-108 in Sacramento. So, Trey, you got to start here. More impressive block last night. Giannis' recovery, because Van Vliet sort of got by him, and then Giannis came and got Shangoon. Or Dyson Daniels stripping Fox there.

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Yeah, I know a lot of people are going to probably be saying, hey, Giannis was out of bounds when he blocked that shot. I think other people were saying Dyson Daniels was out of bounds maybe when he got the strip on Fox 2. Obviously, those went uncalled. Maybe we'll see him in the last two-minute report. Can't wait. But which one would you go with?

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They had some good looks, too. Like, Herter was wide open in the corner for a three. Fox had a good look at a three in transition. Yeah, they were clanking them left and right.

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That's why if I had to pick between what was the more impressive block, I'd maybe lean towards Dyson Daniels, just because Giannis did his thing, but still then, of course, needed Dame to hit that awesome layup. And then, like you said, TK, two seconds left. Van Vliet, if he doesn't throw that pass to Shengun at the rim too far, or Shengun goes up and catches it, they probably win the game.

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So Daniels, the actual game-saving block-slash-steal block, on Fox there with those quick hands. Yeah, I mean, he sort of got around Hunter. Ooh, man, did he get that arm a little bit? Did he get that hand? Is it a part of the ball?

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I do want to know, this could be really what you got, what's the better Dyson Daniels nickname? Is it the Human Vacuum or just the Vacuum being Dyson Daniels? Or is it the Great Barrier Thief that, you know, Larry Nance was pushing and people are starting to run with, even though we have the Great Barrier Wreath, Duop Wreath, in Portland. Who's... Also Australian. We have that?

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Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks podcast on the Athletic Network, a fine network. It's Tuesday, November 19th, 2024. I'm J.E. Skeets here in the Classic Factory, where it looks like fall, and alongside me, as always, Tass Mellis. Happy fall, y'all. Next to him, it's the bearded one with Top Shot Hot Boy, Trey Kirby. Ayo. Ayo.

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Yeah, it was a big thing online when the Blazers and Hawks were playing who were fighting over the nickname. But do you have a preference? Great Barrier Thief or the Human Vacuum?

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Okay. I know our own guy, Lee Lee, obviously did a little sit-down with Dyson Daniels down at the Fortress, or at least in practice facility. He asked him about it. He liked it. Dyson Daniels was a big fan of the Great Barrier Thief. Yeah, that's right. He was a big fan. He also called himself a defensive playmaker, which I thought was pretty cool. That's true. And he is, and he has been. He is.

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I also got to give some props because I shit on him all the time. DeAndre Hunter? DeAndre Hunter. Yes. He had 24 points.

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He scored five straight in this very close game down the stretch. He hit a pull-up jumper on the baseline. That was big. And then he hit a wide-open three because Fox was at the other end complaining about a no-call and just refused to get back into play.

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Yeah, it was huge. But Hunter knocked it down, so I give him some props because I always crap on him.

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And the Hawks got Bogdanovich back. They got Bufkin back, so they're getting some of their pieces back. Yeah, baby. And then my final thought.

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That's crazy. My final thought, just to go back to Milwaukee, is they started 2-8. They've won three of their last four. So they're starting to get it going here. And Brook Lopez, I wanted to show him some love. He was a monster in this game. 27 points, 10 boards, and he had four blocks. So you're talking about Giannis and Dame sort of the closers.

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But they only probably get there because of Brook Lopez.

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No. Well, I'm thinking of the play. I'm like going back to it. I mean, it's an awesome play from Dyson Daniels. Like he helped out Hunter. Sure. Fox got around him. And maybe if he takes, like doesn't go one step even closer to the rim and just rises up for the jumper, he's got a good look at it. The guy's been as clutch as anyone over the last week.

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So, I mean, look, the ball was going to go to Fox's hands anyway. So why not have him bring it up here with seven seconds to go or whatever it was. I guess I'm not that upset with it. But I'm sure Mike Brown's kicking himself now.

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And over yonder, making this magic happen, super producer, JD. Hello. There he is. Here we are. Yeah. Getting in the, I guess, Thanksgiving spirit. I just love the next season coming up. Totally, man. You know, we decorated the Classic Factory for Halloween. That was such a big hit. We obviously have Christmas coming around the corner, but too soon for that. So we just threw a bunch of leaves up.

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Let's move to our final What You Got. Wagner, Franz Wagner, scored 32 points. Anthony Black added 20. Really good game from him. Magic beat the Suns, 109-99. And then Norman Powell, Storm and Norman, 23 points as the Clippers held off the Warriors, 102-99. So just a more surprising result. Magic going on the road, beating the Suns team, who were really looking for a win here without Kevin Durant.

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Or the Clips, taking down the Warriors there with the backing of the wall in the Intuit Dome. What you got, Tass? More surprising result.

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The Magic have won six consecutive games, holding their opponents to fewer than 100 points in each contest here. Last team to do that, six such wins in a row, is the Jazz. back in March 2018, to keep teams under 100. Obviously super tough to do in today's NBA, but that's the Orlando Magic's identity. And it's like, play awesome defense.

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I think they're knocking on the door for the number one defense in the league, getting right there with OKC. And then maybe get enough scoring from your number one guy right now, Trey, in Franz, and then these other pieces chipping in. Anthony Black was awesome.

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Yeah. And I think it looks awesome. You guys really fit the motif here today, too. The browns and the oranges on you guys. I guess even a little black. Sure, why not? Why not? It gets dark early. Yes, it does. Shout out to everyone joining us. Yeah, look at those gourds. Good gourd almighty. It's decorative gourd season, motherfuckers!

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Yeah, Suns are 8-1 with Kevin Durant, and they're 1-5 without Kevin Durant. So he should be coming back, I think, somewhat soon, or at least a status update.

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You almost hear at that point, it's like, yeah, Steph, if you got five guys on you, we still like your chances maybe more. But he's trying to make the right play.

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That's crazy. That's crazy, especially when you have one of the best free throw shooters in the game who gets to the line a decent amount, especially at the end of game situations where you're going to get fouled in Steph Curry.

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Yeah, I was going to say, he's got to be one of the top five in the league for sure. All right, that's a little what you got. Let's get into some news. The Lakers are going to honor former coach Pat Riley with a statue outside their downtown arena.

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The team announced Monday that they have commissioned a statue to stand in Star Plaza, immortalizing the coach who won four championships with the Showtime Lakers of the 80s. Riley also won a championship with the Lakers as a player and an assistant coach. So six total. TK, I assume you're not surprised by this, but do you have any thoughts?

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Hi everyone on YouTube, hit the like button, subscribe if you haven't, share the show, podcast listeners, five-star ratings and reviews. Let's jump right into a little Whatcha Got.

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Well, I think you get to say that when you also won one as the player with the same franchise and as the coach. And then you're like, well, now we've got to slip in the assistant coach. You do it on every level. It feels like... I liked Spolstra talking about Pat Riley getting a Laker statue. He said, quote, the image of a professional basketball coach. He totally changed it in the 80s.

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Whatcha got? Yeah, a little Whatcha Got to recap last night's action. Let's start with this. We had the Heat shake off an early deficit to roll past the reeling 76ers. 106-89, really good game from Jimmy Butler. But Philly, now 2-11, tied with the Wizards for last place in the Eastern Conference. Meanwhile, the Raptors snapped a seven-game losing streak.

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There's some facts to that. Riley revolutionized the game with the approach to the fast break offense. A part of that was having Magic Johnson, of course. But Lakers won 73% of their games during Riley's tenure. 102 playoff victories. In each of his nine seasons at the helm, the Lakers won 50-plus games, including five with 60-plus wins or more. That is just domination.

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He did win Coach of the Year in his final season with the Lakers. And he will now be the eighth Lakers luminary to be honored in the Star Plaza, which is like a tourist destination. Kareem, Magic, Elgin Baylor, Jerry West, Kobe Shaq, and broadcaster Chick Hearn. So now Pat Riley. I love this comment. It was on The Athletic from Thomas A. I really want this statue to bleed Brylcreem.

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Like a religious icon. So the gel there, which he was famously known for, especially as a Lakers coach, even for his whole career, really. But it's like just bleeding Brill cream, like a religious icon. That would be cool.

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That would be sick. Let's just hope the Dwayne Wade statue guys are not involved in this one.

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I would say for the most part, I mean, the Laker statues are pretty phenomenal. They are good, yeah. Like all of them. I can't think of a bad one.

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Who knows? I guess we'll find out. Maybe we'll find out. So you're not going to find out until 2026. This guy has got to get chiseling. Well, yeah. I mean, now he feels like, oh, I better take twice as long on this one as the Wade one. I cranked that one out in three weeks. No one could do better.

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Other news. In the wake of losing all three of their centers to injuries, the Pacers are signing seven-foot-two big man Moses Brown, Tass, to a deal. Makes some sense, probably.

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This is like his sixth season of trying to make it. That sort of surprised me. I guess he was playing well for the Knicks G League team, putting up numbers there. Like, really good numbers, like 19 and 13. He is a huge dude, as I said. No Miles Turner last night against the Raptors. He's got a calf injury.

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And then they have two other guys in James Wiseman and Isaiah Jackson who are gone for the season because of torn Achilles tendons. So they legit just needed a big dude, and they're going to try Moses Brown here.

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They beat the Pacers 130-119, and Indy, not as bad as Philly, but fall to 6-8. You know, sub-500 here. They got a lot of injuries. I know we'll get into that, but a tough loss for them, even though they've played a lot of games here recently. So the question here in what you got, TAS, get us started. Worst vibes right now. Sixers or Pacers, what you got?

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He's busy dancing. All right, that's enough on Moses Brown. He will probably get an opportunity. Kingsguard De'Aaron Fox and Magic Forward Franz Wagner have been named the NBA Players of the Week for week four of the NBA season. Star Fox, he averaged over 40 points per game for the week. That's not bad. You know. The team's record, 2-2.

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But, man, 40-7 he's averaging with a great shooting percentage. And then Wagner posted 31-7-6 in three wins for Orlando. So really good stuff. I had a little trivia question off of this for you guys. Okay. Because Franz Wagner, he's yet to make an All-Star team. So I was wondering, can you guys name...

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The three guys last season who won a Player of the Week award but have never made an All-Star team. I think you can do this. I think you can do this. Now, let me tell you. Tyrese Maxey and Paolo Bancaro, they both won Player of the Week honors before they made the All-Star game last year. So I'm not including them for obvious reasons.

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But we have three guys that won a Player of the Week last season and to this date has never made an All-Star team.

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Kobe White? No, that's a good guess. Very good guess. I want to double check Wemby, but I think I have this right.

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Jamal Murray? No, that's a good guess too. I'm going to give you when it happened because this I think could help you. Oh, go ahead. Cam Thomas. Oh, no. What? Oh, but I think you're... Yeah, because he had a great start.

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That's right, that's right. He did not incredibly win it there early. Tyrese Maxey actually won it in the first week when Cam Thomas probably could have had a chance.

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Jalen Green. His team went 3-0. The Rockets did. He averaged 26-9-4 during that week. He was lights out from three. He couldn't miss. He was the first player from the G League Ignite to win a Player of the Week award from either conference. I thought that was a little fun tidbit for you. Sorry, Dyson. This will help you. Same team. Earlier January. Alper and Shen Goon. Yeah, yeah.

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Rockets went 3-1 during the week. He averaged 24, 7, and 5, basically 1.5 steals. So Shen Goon, Jalen Green, final one. And here's the hint I'm going to give you. Happened in mid-March, so soon after Jalen Green. It was the second time in this guy's career that he had one player of the week. Oh, he's had two big weeks. Two huge weeks in his career, you're telling me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I'll give you his stats. He averaged 20 points per game, six and a half boards, nine assists, one block, and just 1.3 turnovers, and his team went 4-0 in that week. His team probably had a lot of weeks.

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20-9, that is a block. I was going to say his team probably had a lot of weeks where they went undefeated. So there's another hint for you. Derek White.

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Nice hint right there. You were thinking there with the blocks? Yeah. There it is. Shen Goon, Jalen Green, Derek White. Never All-Stars, but one player of the week last year. So now we can add Franz to that list right now. Franz, yeah. Cool. Very cool. How's this comparison for Franz Wagner? Warning, not a same-race comparison. Franz Wagner to Chris Middleton. How do we feel about it?

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I think I'm thinking maybe I'm seeing the role for these guys. Like, can B at times the best guy on the floor? Can take over. You worry maybe is the consistency there. Probably will slot in nicely to being the second best player on a really good team for his career. That's my thinking here. I'll allow it. Okay, thank you. I'll allow it. Thank you. Okay. Role-wise. Tonight's pick-em game.

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I feel silly. I've got to be honest. I feel silly picking against a team that hasn't lost. But if the Celtics want to make a run for this NBA Cup championship, you've got to win this game. I mean, you're basically toast if you don't. They lost their first game. They did. Right? To the Hawks. So, you know, we're going to be on the green court here tonight.

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I sort of want the Celtics to lose and then people to ask Joe Mazzulla about the NBA Cup. Because you know he's going to be like... the only cup I care about is the Holy Grail or something like that. That's what he's going to say. So I'm looking forward to that if they do lose, but I'll take Boston. If they can't get up for this game, come on, what's wrong with you? You like that, didn't you?

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I did like that, man. That was actually great. All right, so we are split on this one. Tass and Trey taking the Cavs to cover, and Ash, who is a Celtics fan, we should note, backing his team there to win by five or more, and I'm with him. That's the game to watch tonight. A couple other NBA Cup games on. So enjoy those courts. We will be back tomorrow. Any other thoughts?

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We didn't talk about your Bulls. I feel bad. You know, Zach Levine, just taking over against the Pistons in the fourth quarter. No pizza party for the Pistons, unfortunately.

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There was one more game we didn't talk about. Oh, yeah, the Knicks crushed the Wizards.

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Well, oh, yeah, a couple things. That Julian Phillips slam on playback, or that we were talking about on Twitter, I guess. An 81 dunk score. Yeah, yeah. Which was a little higher than I thought it would get. Dunk of the night went to Obi Toppin. That fast break dunk off the hoop. That was big.

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But I thought the Jericho Sims dunk was better, and I have a theory that Dunkscore is not a fan of thrunks. Interesting. Yeah, because it was a thrunk on Kuzma. I mean, he dunked it on him.

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I think if we keep up with this bit, we're going to start getting calls to go on other shows to be dunk score experts. Consultants, bring us in. What do you think of the formulas, the algorithms?

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Again, remember, this is out at 1.20. So congrats, Obi-Tan. We'll be back tomorrow, yeah. Back tomorrow here in the Classic Factory. If you enjoyed today's Classic, hit the like button, subscribe, leave us a five-star rating and review. Can't wait for this Cavs-Celtics game. This is a nice early start, too, right? I think so. Is it a 7? Give me a 7 p.m. Eastern. Oh, man.

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I'll just be finishing dessert by the time this game tips. Cavs dessert?

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Yeah, that's fine. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. No, that was... I got excited because they actually start on time with the NBA Cup, but they don't. That was that one. No, that was just that.

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You heard it here first. Have a great time. Turn up. Love you guys. Awesome.

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Speaking of headbands or hair, I guess, did you know that Gogo Batase is wearing a wig? Brace the day, people.

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Yeah, to speak to that, I saw a Philadelphia fan tweet after the game. Normally, you have maybe one of these in a Sixers game. Kelly Oubre, hero ball. Gordon and Lowry, needing to retire. Dejected sloppy, in-bead game. Paul George, forgetting how to play basketball. Caleb Markel Foltz-Martin, which goes to what you were thinking about.

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But in that game last night and over these last couple of games, it feels like you were getting them all. They're all happening. You know, Jared McGain is like the only bright spot from this Sixers team right now. It's bad. Embiid, 12-37 from the floor since returning. He's a minus 38 in 90 minutes. Yeah, he was getting some easy looks inside, like you said, Tess, last night.

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But as that game went on, I don't know if that's fatigue setting in or what, like... The jumper, it looks like a mess mechanically. Everything is flat. There's no chance of it going in, some of these. And I think even more alarmingly, he can't create any separation on any of these guys, on the defenders. And defensively, he's maybe been even worse. So I get it.

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He's playing himself into shape here, but... Like, they're 2-11 now, man. It's sort of getting late in a hurry despite how crappy the Eastern Conference is. So concerns all around here. Absolutely. They need these guys back and playing together. But still, I was joking with Trey before you got in here. I was like, you know, this whole vibes thing.

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I was like, the Philadelphia 76ers, even when they're winning 50 games, feel like a bad vibes team to me somehow. It can be that way. They're the greatest vibes in the world. And so now when you start 2-11, it sort of spirals.

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They're not right. Jimmy Butler scored a season-high 30, yeah, and returned from a sprained ankle. Philadelphia did have a 19-point lead in the second quarter. That was the biggest of their season. And then they wound up becoming the first team this season to lead by at least 19 and trail by at least 20 in the same game. That's how quickly this game flipped. from that run that the Heat won.

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Yeah, they ended up losing by 17, so they got a little bit closer, but it's bad vibes. Do you want to speak to Halliburton and the Pacers? Like, no shame in losing to the scrappy Raptors team. RJ Barrett, yeah, good hurdle. The number one, one, two in the game right now, but yeah, the Halliburton part, I mean, this guy just can't shoot to save his life.

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Yeah, but again, like missing so many of these rotational guys like Neesmith and Nemhard and like they play a part in all of that too. Getting stops and then going the other way. But yeah, it's really odd to see. You're right about teams the way they're playing Halliburton now. It's like, go ahead, man. We're happy with you taking your weird sort of three-point shot. Yeah, good win from the Raps.

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Darko talked in the postgame about the spirit, sort of mental component for finally getting a team win after they had been playing really well but just kept coming up short. He said, quote, and to keep working hard. I know our guy Will Liu has been talking about this a lot on the Hello and Welcome podcast.

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The idea of like, yeah, it's a tank season, you know, help your chances to maybe get a flag or get a high pick. But they're also, you know, they're humans and they are playing hard. It's nice to get a win every once in a while and close out a game. And again, RJ and those guys were pretty damn impressive.

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NBA Draft Lottery Winners & Losers, Giannis Trade Rumors, Tatum's Leg Injury

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Es beginnt so früh auf der Westküste. Die Zeit ist weird in Vegas. Ja, es war. Aber ich war noch nie in der Arena. Ich habe noch nie in die Arena gesteckt. Ich kann nicht warten.

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That's right. We were at Ernie Johnson's house.

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Ich liebe heute's Show, du bist überall auf der App.

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Aber im Allgemeinen, warte, ich habe es noch nie gefunden, bist du Thumbs up oder Thumbs down auf der NBA App?

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Oh, what's going on? Are you scamming the system here?

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Weil ich nicht 100% sicher bin, wie man das benutzt.

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Was ist da falsch? Aber wiederum, vielleicht haben wir nicht die Mannschaft. Sie sind kurz auf Männern oder Frauen, um diese Spiele zu loggen.

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I know that's sort of his free throw motion, but Chad Holmgren waits. There's that giant pause where you're like, did somebody unplug his controller? Do you know what I'm talking about? He just stops. You're like, okay, man, shoot it. Missing both of those. He's like a... He's a pretty good free throw shooter for a big guy for sure. So that was pretty shocking.

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But Jokic, man, only the fourth player in NBA history to record the 20, excuse me, 40, 20 and five stat line. It's Will Chamberlain. It's Shaq. It's Giannis. And now it's Jokic. George McInnes also did it. ABA days. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Awesome. Good to know that. Yes, of course. Anything else from this one?

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Also in the mix, it's the bearded one, my top shot hot boy. His voice might be as bad as mine. Trent Kirby. Ayo.

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And then finally, how about the clip they showed on the broadcast? Jokic screaming at the boys and coaching them. It appeared to like saw some things, wanted them to implement and was trying to like, we're still in this. Let's go. So that clip making the rounds, like it sort of just illustrates what we were joking about when Malone got fired.

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And it was like, well, okay, maybe he just is the coach. David Altman's there. He's calling plays. I get it. But still, it's like he is fired up.

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And everyone looked pretty damn attentive to me when he was.

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He's like, I got to hear this. This is good. He's seeing something out there. So really, really exciting game. It felt like a million times like OKC was going to put it to bed. And like you said, Denver just would not let go of the rope. And now things get interesting in a lot of these series, right?

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Wow. And making the magic happen over and under, Super Producer G.

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So far, the road team winning all three game ones and maybe make it four here tonight if the Warriors can win in Minnesota.

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Let's talk about the Knicks. Sort of doing something similar, if we're being honest. They come back from 20 down. They beat the Celtics 108-105. They had to play five extra minutes. A little free basketball last night. So they win in overtime. And they take game one and task. I mean, the big takeaway from this is how many threes the Celtics took in this game. 63 point attempts.

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Yes. As you can hear, got some gravelly voices in studio. Apologies for that. That's what happens when you scream sing for about six hours on the dance floor. What was our guy's name? Eric the Tutor? Eric the Tutor was the DJ. Congratulations to Matty-O and Jill on their big wedding. Over the weekend, we were up in Montreal. Not only just singing on the dance floor, just a lot of talking.

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45 of them they missed. So 15 of 60 from deep. And like that third quarter, the one everybody pointing out, 19 of their 20 shots was a three.

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So a whole bunch as the game went on and they just went ice cold for a good stretch of it. And man, the Knicks, just like Denver really in a way, just would not let go of the rope. and continued to, like, we have time, we can get back in this game, and made some big plays.

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How many three-point attempts is too many three-point attempts is what everybody's wondering here.

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Jalen Brown, after the game, said in those spots where they have momentum, we can't just fire up threes. Totally. I felt like we just settled in the second half a lot. And that's, I think, a part of it, like being up 20 and holding on to a big lead for the majority of the game. It's like, eh, one more, two threes, this game's over.

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But they went ice cold there for the stretch, and then allowed, obviously, the Knicks to get back into it.

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And now we wait to see, will Porzingis be back for game two here too? Because him leaving this game had an impact on it. I mean, it allowed Carl Anthony Towns to have a little bit of a breathing room. Not that Porzingis was playing well. They were trying to get the ball to him and it was always ending in a turnover or a missed shot. I mean, he obviously had this illness.

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But we are back here again. Congrats to the Lovebirds. We had some great basketball games to talk about. I mean, we came back yesterday, and then two bangers. Just some shocking results, really. So let's get into them a little bit later.

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He doesn't play in the second half. I think their shot diet looks a little bit better if he is out there. Maybe it's not 60 three-point attempts, a little bit more inside or a little mid-range game from him, but we'll see. I've been saying it forever. They need Porzingis to win a title to go back-to-back, I think. So I'm sure he'll be better for game two, but it is crazy.

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I thought this one was a wrap. It felt like it was six minutes, like a third. You're like, oh, this one's going to be over. Maybe we even get the classic, like, cut it to six, and then the team sort of closes the door. But man, just big shots from these guys, especially Brunson. Those two threes were awesome.

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We'll do a Wolves-Warriors preview and also talk a little bit about the Pacers beating the Cavs in Game 1 and who or who's not playing in Game 2 tonight for Cleveland. But man, I guess we start with Aaron Gordon. Splashing a game-winning three-pointer with about three seconds to go as the Nuggets stunned the top seed at Thunder. 121-119.

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It's got to be top three. I know it's the highest points he's scored. He played a ton of minutes. He had one game where he scored a ton of points in limited minutes.

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21 in 23 minutes. 6 of 11 from deep. Four boards, three assists, one steal. Only one foul, too. He's obviously out there for defensive purposes on the Jays.

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That was the one off of Bridges' steal in the corner that he saved it in front of his own bench, and that got them in transition, and that led to the OG.

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Yeah, for a game in which he shot badly. He was clutch. I mean, all the defensive plays.

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It's almost like he didn't know what he was doing, though. You're right, it started eyes, but then it went more mouth. Yeah, it was weird. We'll see it again.

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And like you guys brought up a couple times, there are instances where Tatum should have attacked. He should have. And Brown for that matter, too. It was like, okay, man. The three's not really dropping for you tonight. So put some pressure on the rim. When you had Mitchell Robinson up top and everybody spaced out because they got all five shooters out there. So nobody's in the paint.

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You can't tell me you can't get by Mitchell Robinson? Can't get him on your hip? Obviously, he's still going to recover, and he's obviously a lengthy guy and stuff, but I'm sure a couple of bump fakes are going to get him at the line. Did you see Derek White's big rebound with like 28 seconds to go? Great board. In regulation, huge-ass board. It was a rebound highlight.

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Even Reggie was pointing that out. But then did you see Joe Mazzulla's

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Denver closes on a 19-6 run after trailing by 11 with under five minutes to play.

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truck into the referee when he was trying to call a timeout because White hit the floor and obviously was holding onto the ball he just nails into the ref like they both sort of not like really looking at each other he's trying to get out there to call it and he got it straight trucked him you gotta be careful because if you were to hold up Joe Mazzulla he'll probably drop down and put you in an arm bar yeah that's right that's right

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Wait, who did OG hit the game winner in the quarter? Celtics. It was against the Celtics.

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This guy's been amazing so far in the playoffs for the Knicks. So with the Pacers' win over the Cavs on Sunday, road teams 3-0 in the conference semifinals series. And we'll pivot now to the one that starts tonight. The Western Conference's number six seed, the Minnesota Timberwolves, take on the number seven Golden State Warriors in the second round here. Game one, tipping tonight.

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Not that long ago. When the seventh-seeded Lakers knocked off the sixth-seeded Warriors in six games. Let's break it down as we've been doing things to watch for. X-Factors predictions. TK, you can get started here. What's something you're going to keep your eye on? 6-7 Wolves-Warriors.

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There are so many fun narratives surrounding this series when you consider Ant trying to take down another legend. Is he full Randy Orton here as the legend killer? Can he take Curry now and add him to his list of all these guys he's taken down in playoff series? Jimmy Butler returning to face a franchise he basically tried to burn to the ground. That's fun.

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And then the one everyone likes to talk about, Draymond Green. versus Rudy Gobert. Oh, yeah. Round whatever this is. Now, with Draymond, something to keep in mind here, he racked up four technical fouls and two flagrant fouls. Happy for Tass's team in the instigator draft. That's my team. Excuse me, that's your team. He did that against Houston.

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I bring that up because you get a one-game suspension if you reach seven technicals or you accumulate four flagrant points.

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So you do have to watch it. That's why I bring it up. Golden State did win the season series against Minnesota. They took three or four games, but I think all those games were before the deadline. It was a completely different team before Jimmy and all that. Now, Curry was a monster. Curry did play really well against the Wolves.

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I think he averaged 29 points, 7.5 assists, really good true shooting percentage. So that remains the same. It's Steph Curry for crying out loud. But I'm watching, and you sort of slipped it in there, TK. What type of ant do we get? And if he continues to make sharp decisions and sharp reads and maybe the defense sort of does load up on him still like we saw the Lakers do...

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Can those other guys come through? Because they were instrumental in winning that series. You had the Jaden McDaniels game. He actually had two of them. He had a great game one. He had a great game three. Nas Reid was huge in game one too. Then you had Randall with 25 in game four. That was awesome to help out the crazy good ant game.

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And then you said Rudy Gobert had the game of his life in game five, 27 and 24. So those guys, I mean, they're going to have to, I think they're going to have to do it obviously three or four times. There's going to have to be the complimentary like star guy to go alongside them. Anthony Edwards.

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I can't wait to see who it is and whether it changes like it did in that last series, sort of from game to game.

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To go back to Buddy Heald, I mean, even as that first round developed, I thought you started to see Steve Kerr sort of opt for Buddy Heald shooting over Moses Moody and his defensive acumen as the games went on. And it was like, oh, let's go with Buddy. And the numbers back it up. I mean, in games where Buddy played fewer than 20 minutes in that last battle, they went one and three.

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And he shot poorly and he barely shot at all in those games. The ones where he played 29 or more minutes three times in that series, he averaged nearly 22 points per game. He shot 17 to 31 from deep. But he is the ultimate X Factor here, I think, especially when you get into closing games and just how much he can stretch the floor. And they won all three of those games.

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I was going to say, and he started to play some defense as well.

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And for the Wolves bench, I mean, like, I have a lot of confidence in Nas Reed. I think you're right about Dante DiVincenzo and how well he's looked at times against them in this battles against the Golden State Warriors. But Nikhil Alexander-Walker, We're through two postseasons now and this guy can't shoot. He can't score.

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He does a lot of other really important things, which is why if man, if he could just hit a shot, it becomes like such a game changer, such an X factor. He's shooting 34% from the field and under 28% from three in two postseason runs now.

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Again, you got to play the guy because of, you know, obviously his length on the perimeter and his defensive hustle and makes the smart plays, but you got to shoot. And you know, like the Warriors more than anyone, they like, oh yeah, we'll exploit that.

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Like until we see it, until you can hit a wide open three, we'll leave you and we'll have Draymond roaming and we'll clog up everything we can to try and put bodies on ant and stuff like that. So I think it's important when he gets his minutes that he actually can try and hit some shots here, at least in regards to them winning. Prediction.

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They also have home court advantage, of course, though maybe that doesn't matter in this round. And rest advantage here, too, with obviously the Warriors playing a game seven.

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Going six. Yeah. Oh, man. The idea of picking against Curry is disgusting behavior to me. And for that reason and that reason alone, I'll take the Warriors. I'll go Warriors in seven. I'll have them winning on the road in Minnesota. But for all the reasons we talked through in this series, the Wolves are a better team.

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But the Warriors, no one has more experience than obviously their three main guys. And Curry has played really well against them. And I just can't wait to see. I want them to almost use Ant's energy and FU aura. Can they use it against them in a weird way? Even through comments after games and in the media and stuff like that. The guy won't back down from it. He likes it.

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He thinks it's such a fun part of the game. Especially, he's talked already about Draymond and all the trash he talks. So that'll be fun too. But I'll go Warriors in seven. These guys got Wolves in six. Let's hear from you in the stream team. Who wins? How many games? X-Factors, all that good stuff. Okay, let's pivot to one of the other games tonight.

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We obviously didn't get to talk about game one because we were gone this weekend, but three of Cleveland's players, their top players, are questionable.

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For Game 2 against the Pacers tonight, Coach Kenny Atkinson expressed real concern over whether Darius Garland with a toe sprain, DeAndre Hunter with a dislocated thumb, and Evan Mobley with an ankle injury, whether they'll even play tonight in Game 2 of their Eastern Conference semifinal series. So that's huge, something to watch for as the day progresses here as we get closer to tip time.

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But your thoughts on Game 1, how the Pacers look so damn impressive in that and concerned at all about Cleveland here?

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Every time OKC pushed that lead back to double digits, the Nuggets responded somehow, and it was either a big three from Gordon or Brown or just getting to the free throw line, or a lot of the time, It was Jokic bully ball.

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Yeah. The six guys for the Pacers scored in double figures in game one. They had another 30 assists. There have been eight instances in this year's playoffs where teams have finished with 30 or more assists, and the Pacers have been the team to do it four times. So half of them. I mean, this is their thing, their MO, their offense. Can they slow it? Can Cleveland slow it? Andrew Nembhard, too.

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I know Mitchell got his points in the end, his game one points. So I guess the streak continues. Took a lot of shots. 30 shots to get 33 points. And Nembhard, when you dive into the numbers, he shot one at 10, Donovan Mitchell did.

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against andrew nemhard so not only did nemhard like bring it offensively he did shut down their star player when he was matched on him so i i assume those numbers will be higher for mitchell in game two just percentage wise but can they slow them down and like hunter mobile got they got injured on consecutive plays there in the fourth quarter and they continue to play but they look you know hobbled to some extent kenny atkinson didn't was not happy about the hunter

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fall and thought that was a little reckless he might be getting a fine today too for some of his comments but um we'll see game two tonight but you like a bounce back from cleveland or is this gonna be what indiana did for the last series took first two right i would hope that hunter bounces back you mentioned him i thought he could have been better defensively getting out to the perimeter so yes i expect to bounce back for this entire roster

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It could have been the case of like, whoa, this is an eye-opening, jarring switch of what we just did in the first round and who we played to now playing this Indiana team. That's quite a change from the Miami Heat to the Indiana Pacers. So maybe you're a little more ready for it and know what they're going to be doing here. All right, we'll see you tonight. Game two of that series.

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Because I mean, in the fourth quarter, that guy was just nuts. He just kept them in the game and then maybe got helped out a little bit by a decision from Mark Dagnall and OKC to play the foul up three game. We don't mind the game plan. It works a lot of times, but maybe way too early in doing it and just not letting enough time come off the clock. It was like just perplexing.

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Game one of Wolves Warriors. Let's call it here so we can go over to sleep. We had some fun in Montreal. And again, congrats to Matt and Jill. But we're back here tomorrow morning. We'll see you in the Classic Factory. Hopefully our voices will be a little stronger. I feel like the tea is helping. The honey. I got throat coat. My tea's called Throat Coat.

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Class was in session, for sure. All right, guys. We'll see you tomorrow. Enjoy the game tonight. Until then, Clipper Bros. You heard it here first. Have a great time. Turn up. Love you guys. Awesome.

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Did you have a favorite song you heard? So many. Remember, you were almost slapping the dance floor. You couldn't slap the dance floor. Because it was all brick.

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All right, guys. We'll see you tomorrow. Embrace the day, people.

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In addition to, of course, Jokic was off the floor when they did it. All that as well. But what are your takeaways here, TK?

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Yeah. And pretty impressive that he did what? Like the final 18 minutes of this game in foul trouble. Like Jokic did, you know, so had that was an issue, but of course you just had to continue to go through them, but didn't fall out of this game. What do you think of the decision of OKC with the fouling up three and when they did it, how they did it and how many times they did it?

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Yeah, you're fouling 90 feet away from their rim with his back turn. It's like, let him dribble around a couple seconds, then put the pressure on. Try for the steal, you don't get it. Obviously, then you've done the foul, and you go from there. But it was like, yeah, you said a couple seconds earlier. in both of these instances, came off the clock. You're just doing it too early.

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So it may be the right idea. And he said, like, we do this. This is our thing. We're confident in it. We got great free throw shooters. Obviously, Chet misses too, and that's huge. Different outcome if he hits maybe even one. But yeah, just like the way they did it was just poor execution.

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Oh, yeah, it was. It absolutely was. Maybe they also thought, there's no way Westbrook passes this. Also true. This guy in transition against his old team in his old barn, he's taking it. He's either pulling up for a three or he's going to try and attack the rim. Maybe he misses another layup, but no, I mean, what a brilliant pass, obviously right in rhythm for AG to knock it down.

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And like another game winner from this guy, you already said it, like obviously that one, which maybe saved that series. against the Clips. That would have gone to overtime, so who knows what happens. But, I mean, a huge, huge win to tie that series 2-2. They win in 7, now he's done it again here. And the winner of Game 1 is in a best-of-7 series. Historically going to win 77% of the time.

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I'm not saying that's going to happen here. Feels like it'll be a long series. Going to have to figure out how to stop Jokic. Because I like that he is like, oh, I just have to be a monster. If we're going to win this series, I've got to be a monster. And he's going to take a lot of shots. And he's obviously going to do the bully ball. But Aaron Gordon, 22-14, man. This guy...

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I guess, yeah, living in a gym is the way to go. You might have to try it.

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Are you concerned here if you're OKC? Obviously dropping game one here. In a game where the Nuggets, let's point this out, they shoot 29% from three. Like, not good. They turn the ball over something like 18 times. Led to a lot of OKC easy points. 23, I believe. Michael Borden Jr., nothing really from him. And they still won. They still pull this out.

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I mean, is that a reason for concern if you're OKC?

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Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, May 6th, 2025. I'm Doc Rivers, back here in the Classic Factory. No, I'm Jay Skeets, and alongside me, as always, Tass Mellis.

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Mm-hmm. And as the game went on, I think, with SGA sort of doing the heavy lifting, you started noticing it was like they just started pinching at the corners. The Nuggets defense did take away as much as possible space from SGA and like anybody else beat us. And I'm going with what you're saying there, TK.

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It's like we don't really trust that J-Dub's going to do this or even Chet, at least in this game. And they're going to have to. One of those guys in these games is going to have to come through. And they probably will, but it is a little reminiscent of a poor J-Dub series last year. when they went out in the second round. He was not good in that series. He was a little MIA.

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Maybe a missing person on a milk carton, to bring it back to that. I guess chocolate milk, maybe. But yeah, those guys have to be much, much better here. And I think they will. I do.

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The Thunder, I don't think, are going to give up a game one like that.

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Ja, ich schaue auf die Pacers Defense und ob sie Shea auslösen werden, weil sie meistens zuhause bleiben und die anderen Superstar aufnehmen lassen, weil sie die Unterstützer wegnehmen wollen. Sie haben Janusz in der ersten Serie ausgelassen, sie haben Donovan Mitchell in der zweiten Serie ausgelassen und sie haben Jalen Brunson in der dritten Serie ausgelassen.

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Aber Aaron Neesmith und Andrew Nembhard, der für ihn teilgenommen hat, haben ein tolles Spiel gegen Jalen Brunson in der 6. Saison gespielt. Aaron Neesmith hat in der 6. Saison angefangen. Aber sie haben ihn weggezogen. Rick Carlos hat gesagt, wir müssen diesen Jungen wegnehmen. Vielleicht ist es wegen des Ankelinjurys und das ist ein Verständnis hier.

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Er hat gute Playoffs gehabt, aber seitdem er in Game 5 verletzt wurde, hat er sich ein bisschen geschliffen gegen Jalen Brunson. Deswegen musste Rick zu Andrew Nebhard gehen, der, wie Trey gesagt hat, er ist... viel kleiner, also wird es anders sein gegen Shea, der sich aufhören wird.

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Ich denke, er wird es, er hat es während der zwei Spiele, die er dieses Jahr gespielt hat, 39 Punkte, sieben Tore und acht Absätze gegen die Pacers in zwei Spielen und eine dumme Effizienz von 70,8 Prozent. Echtes Schießen. Also, die Pacers mögen, dass, wiederum der Superstar von der anderen Mannschaft, und hoffen, dass die anderen Jungs nicht so viel beitragen.

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Aber ich denke, das ist die Rezepte, um dieses Thunder-Team zu verlängern. Du wirst einige Monster-Nummern von Shea sehen. Ich denke, das wird passieren. Wegen dieses Aaron E. Smith-Verletzten und weil er so gut ist. Also werden wir sehen, wie die unterstützenden Spieler ihn unterstützen werden. Aber immer noch gefördert, immer noch einen Mann vor ihnen zu haben.

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Ich denke, die Idee ist, dass sie einfach ihren Superstar verlassen lassen und wir auf die anderen Jungs zurückbleiben.

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Spacers like being underdogs though. I mean, they've basically been the underdogs throughout this postseason. It was kind of a coin flip against Milwaukee, but then against Cavs, huge underdogs, huge underdogs against the Knicks. And here they are in round number four. It's easy to make that 2011 Dallas Mavericks comparison that won the title. Same thing happened then.

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Sie waren in der ersten Runde gegen Portland, und dann waren sie die Unterhüter, die großen Unterhüter, natürlich mit Miami in den Finals, L.A. in den Konferenzfinals und OKC. Also hier sind wir. Kann Rick Carl es wieder machen? Kann Rick, kann Rick es wieder machen? Ja, er war der Dirk. Und es ging natürlich extrem gut. Wir werden Rick sehen. Wir werden ihn mit dem Spitzkopf sehen.

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Er wird Dinge verändern. Ich meine, er hat natürlich einen unglaublichen Job in den Konferenz-Finals gemacht. Und man kann sagen, er hat den Vorteil hier gegen Mark Dagnall, nur weil er da war. Und er war schnell, um die zehn Leute rauszuholen. 11 Leute, ich glaube, jetzt ohne Jairus Walker. Wie viele hat er? Ist das 11? Er ist schnell, um Änderungen zu machen, das ist für sicher.

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Wir werden viel Kenrich Williams finden, glaube ich. Er wird in die Runde gehen, er wird Pascal spielen. Das scheint ein Zusammenhang zu sein.

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Let's do it. Where are you going? Let's start with you, Tass. Well, I'm just doing what everybody's doing. I think the Thunder are going to win this series in five games. The heart says... Die Hälfte sagt 4, aber wir gehen 5. Ich denke nur, dass sie in einer Art rollen, die sie nicht früher in dieser Postseason hatten.

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Ich denke nicht, dass du einen Steal von einem Spiel in der OKC von den ersten zwei sehen wirst, wie Indiana es in Madison Square Garden gemacht hat. Oder wie die Nuggets die ersten zwei von den ersten drei gewonnen haben in der zweiten Runde. Ich denke nur, dass sie absolut rollen, obwohl... Diese Tage sind ein bisschen zu spät, nachdem was in der zweiten Runde mit ähnlichen Tagen passiert ist.

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Ja, ich habe ihn nur in fünf. So einfach ist das. Nichts mehr zu sagen hier. Ich kann nicht warten, bis ich diese ersten paar Spiele sehe. Denn das ist der Zeitpunkt, an dem die Pacers ihn stehlen können. Aber die Injury von Aaron Neesmith ist eine legitime Frage. Er ist die Schlüssel zur Rotation. Und ihn nicht so zu rollen, wie er war ... TK, wo gehst du hin?

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Listen, we want a long series. I hope so. Although I just want to mention this, Trey. Ziggy says, Creatine Trey would have picked in four.

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T.J. McConnell hat es gut gemacht, den Passer auf den Ball zu werfen. Es fühlt sich so an, als hätte der Thunder den Sprenger, T.J. McConnell, in irgendeiner Art und Weise. Nur weil sie so viele kleine Jungs haben und bereit sind. Aber sie werden ihn geben. Ja, erlauben sie ihm, den Ball aufzulösen und den 3 zu schießen.

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It's fun to watch the Pacers in an Eastern Conference that ain't the same as the Western Conference to start that dynasty of getting to final after finals after finals. So, yeah. The drama.

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Ein guter Teil unserer Fans, über ein Quartier, um zu sagen, dass die Pacers gewinnen.

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Yeah, it just feels like the Thunder have hit their spots here. If you're looking back to the 2015 Warriors that we considered, you know, this great regular season team that 68 wins versus 67 wins for the Golden State Warriors that season in round two. Yeah, they got down 2-1. And then in the finals, it was a game one that went to overtime, that game against the Cleveland Cavaliers.

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Das ist der Kairi-Schmerz. Das ist der Kairi-Schmerz.

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We'll see if there's a post-up opportunity. Yeah, you don't want to dance like Campaign or Russell Westbrook. Oh, interesting. I mean, like going deep cut. A weird one, like if you get a game winning shot, do that, pull it out, I guess, by the scorer's table or something. That's weird.

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Yeah, he wore black, obviously, to Game 6 of the Eastern Conference Finals against the Knicks. Do you win a game against OKC and wear the color that the fans are wearing, like a blue shirt or a white shirt?

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Der Primemoment der Woche ist Tyrese Halliburtons Vater, John Halliburton, um seinen Sohn in den Eastern Conference Finals in Person zu sehen, weil er verabschiedet wurde. Er hatte eine Verabschiedung in der Runde Nummer 1 gegen Yannis Antetokounmpo, wo er auf die Strecke gestiegen ist und die Indianer-Präsidentin sagte, dass er nicht zurückkommt, bis er zurückkam und in der Schuhe sitzen durfte.

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Und ja, er hat gewonnen. Das tut es für John. Ein erstaunlicher Moment als sein Vater. Und dann, am Ende des Spiels, ging er aufs Tor, wo es war, als ob er der Superstar war. Ich meine, jeder unterstützt ihn und schreit für ihn, gibt ihm diese High Fives. Es gibt Quotes da draußen. Ich habe dir gesagt, es wird besser werden, als du denkst. John Halliburton war Sandkorn-Tour-Mann, Tony East.

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Dieses Video von Ben Goliver ist so cool. Sehen Sie meinen 5. Alle sind gespannt, um da runter zu kommen. Und ich bin sicher, er wird in den Indiana Home Games in den NBA Finals sein. Also ein toller Moment. Vater, mit deinem Sohn in Person zu gehen, ist einfach ein cooler Moment für ihn.

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I don't know. There is footage of him at bars during this period where he wasn't allowed to go to games. He was with fans and fans taking photos with the guy. Man of the people.

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Well, like Barkley was saying, he served his time. Just free pops, free pops. He's done it. He's not going to do it again. Charles said he's not going to do it again. Like, how would you know if he's going to do it again? He's going to jump onto the court. I guess not. Give him a sweet. That's how you solve it. And that's how the Pacers did solve it. Yeah, exactly.

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I heard it was the closest span between finals teams since like 08. I mean, that was our man Tony East saying that. Is it true? I didn't do the measurements, but you know, East-West is further than you.

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Deep Pole! Hopefully he still has those tinted windows on that car and he just drops them down and says, come in for a ride.

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Thanks for joining us. And remember, the Pacers and Thunder didn't come this far only to come this far.

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Yeah, how does the Pacers overcome this incredible defense is the big question. It does start with Tyrese Halliburton getting into the lane. Not so much scoring, but getting into the lane and spraying from there. Spraying into the corners where OKC does allow three corner shots. That's what happens with this team. Got a little audio problem. Audio problem. Just making sure everything's good.

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Everything is totally good. Everything is totally good. Just making sure, you know, there's some... Ein bisschen Hiccups vor den Playoffs, oder vor den NBA Finals, sollte ich sagen. Halliburton in die Linie zu kommen ist wichtig. Wie du gesagt hast, sehe ich Isaiah Hartenschein endlich auf der Bühne. Ob es die zweite Halbzeit ist, ob es für Alex Caruso ist, oder ob es für Kaysen Wallace spielt.

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Weil der Lou Dort auf Halliburton, natürlich ist Lou Dort ein unglaublicher Defender, ich glaube nicht, dass er der beste ist. Archetype to stop Albert. No, I do think you want some smaller, quicker players. And that's why I think you're going to see a ton of case and walls and you will see some Hartenstein sit. Then who guards Siakam in that case?

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I think you're going to see a lot of J Dub on Pascal Siakam. Das heißt, die Böden, die sie auf Halberton geben werden, um ihn aus der Lane zu halten, ob es Dortmund, Caruso und Kaysen Wallace ist, es gibt viel von ihnen. Und das ist ja offensichtlich, du kannst nur sehen, wie die Stoppen passieren. Wird Halberton die Möglichkeit haben, diesen Motor zu halten, um die Jungs zu halten?

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Das ist die größte Frage. Und die Pick and Roll, die sie gegen Carlton Towns letzte Serie tun konnten, die sie gegen Mobley und Allen vor der Serie tun konnten, das ist die Frage hier. Können sie das gleiche gegen... Hartenstein und Chet und wer auch immer sie bei den Vierern spielen, Halliburton muss den Motor absolut aufhören. Sie sind so gut, dass sie nicht den Ball überdrehen.

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Sie haben sich unglaublich gut gemacht. Nur zwölf und ein halbes, im Wesentlichen, während der Playoffs. Sie haben Fragen. Aber das ist ein anderer Biest. Ja, das ist es, Mann.

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From the last four games over the last two seasons?

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Ich dachte, du würdest was sagen. Ich dachte, du würdest was sagen. We'll see how Halliburton can carry this into the playoffs, into the finals. And Pascal Siakam is going to be asked to do a lot. Pascal Siakam was able to out-hustle every single New York Knick there in Game 6 and have four buckets that he scored in fast break where he was just out in front of everybody.

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Is he going to be able to do that against Hartenstein? Probably a little bit, you know. Das ist der Hustle. Wir werden das sehen. Natürlich ist dieses Thunder-Team einfach gut. Also werden sie wahrscheinlich, glaube ich, zu J-Dub steigen. Aber Pascal hat in der ersten Saison der NBA-Finale schon gut gearbeitet. Er hat 32 Tore in 2019 gedroht. Way back when.

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Und so bringt er den Kredit, dass sie das brauchen. Sie brauchen das, glaube ich, zu OKC, der hier nur besser geworden ist, als die Playoffs gegangen sind.

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Ja, und die letzten zwei Jungs, die du schon erwähnt hast, sind nicht wirklich die Jungs, die du erwähnt hast, wenn es um die OKC Offense in J-Dub und Chet Holmgren geht. Aber sie sind natürlich besser geworden, als die Playoffs gegangen sind. Es gab Game 6 in Round 2 gegen den Denver Nuggets, wo J-Dub sein schlechtes Spiel hatte. Wurde er sich wiederholen? Er hat sich wiederholen. In Game 7.

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Und so hatten sie eine tolle Konferenz-Finale und hier spielen sie ihren besten Ball. Es gab eine Frage von ihnen, als sie 2-1 in der zweiten Runde runtergingen. Das war... Ja, wir flashen zurück zu den Golden State Warriors. Werden sie diese Art von Dynastie in 2015 haben? Ich denke, das ist, wo die Golden State Warriors waren, als sie 2-1 runtergingen in Memphis in der zweiten Runde.

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Unser Mann, Ernie Johnson, kam in das Klubhaus. Er fragte uns, wer in dieser Serie gewonnen hat. Niemand wusste, wann die Warriors runtergingen. Und die Thunder, glaube ich, wurden ein bisschen weniger gegen die Denver Nuggets gefragt. Aber sie kamen zurück, sie zeigten, wie stark sie waren. Und es scheint einfach so zu sein, Sie rollen.

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In einer Art und Weise, wie es die Golden State Warriors nicht waren. Die Golden State Warriors hatten Schmerzen gegen die Cavs. Okay, lasst uns nicht über die 2015 Finale reden. Weißt du, was lustig war?

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Yeah, the support guys of Shea in Jalen Williams and Chet. They got way better. They grew up and they were a little bit younger than even those Golden State Warriors support players and Clay and Draymond Green. Because, listen, Chet is stupid young. You know, just basically playing a year and a half of his career. And Jalen Williams here, year number three in comparison to like a Clay.

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This is, yeah, they're showing that they are at their best. So I think the Pacers got to get in there and they got to steal a game here early in this series. That's a big question. That's a tough one. Are they going to be able to pull off a... Situation against the New York Knicks in the conference finals where you're down 14 with 240 left. Just win a game. I think that's the scary part.

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You know, one more comp I just thought of, too, is, like, the old guy on the team in both cases was, like, Iguodala was, like, probably 30-31 on that 14-15 team for the Warriors that won the title. And then this one is Caruso as, like, the old guy on this squad. And, you know, even when they sort of acquired them, I know Iguodala had been there a year. Caruso new to this team.

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14-15? Yeah. Sure. There's no wrong answer. No one can know. Do you have any other game notes, or do you guys want to just spin it into the random?

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There you go. They got everything. There you go. We got some slop to talk about today. Slop season has started for us.

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Man, it was such an ass-kicking. We don't even have that many random notes. At least I don't. I guess the first one is, what's your reaction to the West Finals gear that the guys were wearing? I know I got an email right away. Hey, get your Western Conference champions t-shirts and hats. And those were the hats, obviously, the guys were wearing on the floor last night. TK, what do we think?

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As we start running out of basketball games to talk about, we'll get into what are the Sixers going to do with their third pick overall and how much are the Bulls going to try and get Josh Giddey signed for and is LaMelo Ball going to the Clippers? It's slop season. We'll get into all that. But we do have a game to talk about here. The Thunder dominated the Wolves 124-94 at home last night.

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You're right. A lot of the giveaways, a lot of the t-shirts we've seen are like, they're actually sort of stylish now. Like they're a little more creative with them, but okay. Task your opinion.

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Okay. OKC Crowd, I wanted to say, like, just awesome again last night to start that game. It looks like a video game. Because they're all wearing the shirts. So it looks like what you see in a video game where it's like just, you know... They're all there. It's not like I don't think these NBA 2 games have like missing people in seats. I don't think they're that realistic.

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So that's what it looks like. It looks amazing. And they do like the color blocking there with the white and blue in some of those games. And they got to party for like two hours straight. Right. That's pretty cool. Yeah, that was fun. Like from the jump. Yes. Okay, what else?

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You guys sniff that? Yeah, you smell that? That's the NBA finals.

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Somebody ask. What did you think about how they celebrated overall, Trey? Like perfect balance between, you know, we're the Western Conference champs, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. We want to obviously win the whole thing. Do you think they were too happy? I love this debate. Don't touch the trophy. What are you doing?

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Yeah, the Panthers didn't touch the hardware last night.

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They're idiots. That was awesome. Great linebacker. It was a good pop. I did like, too, SGA got the Western Conference Finals MVP, and he grabbed it, and he held it up, and get your photos and all that, but then he was trying to give it away, but nobody else really wanted it, except Ken Rich Williams finally took it, and he seemed happy to hold it.

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They win the conference finals in the West in five games. They advance to the NBA finals for the first time in a long time. 2012, the last time OKC was there. Game five, though, tasked just a complete performance by OKC on both sides of the basketball.

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But everybody else was like, I don't want to hold it. It's not mine. It's yours. But for some reason, he got it back to Ken Rich Williams, who was like, okay, I'll take it. He seemed pretty excited to hold it, so... Always love that. One note from the game. I forgot to bring this up when we were talking about the game, although it's like obviously random.

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Breen in the second quarter, there was a funny exchange that he said on the mic. Ball knocked loose. Williams to Wallace. That's William Wallace. Nothing, nothing from Burke or RJ though. That's in my notes too. You gotta drop a Scotland Forever. Like you gotta help them out, like I think.

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I guess not, yeah. But just like that he amused himself by saying it. You could tell. William Wallace, that's William Wallace.

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We don't need any of these commercials, to be honest. But I think I knew it because... I mean, I'm old, so yeah, I understand ACDC and Angus Young and dresses like a schoolboy. But it's like, I remember when I first saw the commercial, I was like, why are they dressed like this? Like, this is...

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i know everything goes in fashion nowadays but it was a weird like it's got the un yeah the weird tie obviously undone and yes the colors and then the hat even it was like that is a strange strange choice and then oh thunder struck yeah they're the thunder i guess they're all dressing like that but uh yeah that's the good thing about seeing it so many times is that you finally you just pick up new things every time you see it now you love it yeah now i'm gonna get it now it's finally clicked for me

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Can I get your opinion on this tweet from Dragonfly Jones last night? He wrote, it was cool as hell when Anthony Edwards was walking from crypto back to his hotel and talking his shit about bouncing the Lakers. Now after the rest of his showing this postseason, he can't do no shit like that again until he gets a ring. Sorry, man. I don't make the rules. It is what it is. I was like, oh, okay.

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Do you agree or disagree? TK, I'll start with you on this idea of like, okay, you know, Ant's a big personality, but you've come up short here, had a pretty bad series, they shut you down. You got to like sort of chill with that until you maybe sort of at least get to the finals or win the ring. Agree or disagree? 100% disagree.

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Yeah. I mean, going to two conference finals is something, for sure. Now he needs to get over that hump, but 23 years old. I do forget that. He feels like he's been around so much longer, and he feels like SGA's age, if I'm being honest. I have him in my head as a 25, 26-year-old, but he's got a couple years on him still.

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It is crazy that from March 2nd through the start of the conference finals, Minnesota went 25-6. We talked about this. They were awesome. Then in five games against the Thunder, they lost four of them, including three, in OKC by a combined 71 points. So they just got hammered. And they have decisions to make here.

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And I don't know if you want to get into it now or save it for one of these off days, but contract decisions with Julius Randle and Nas Reed and Nikhil Alexander-Walker, and you already brought up, what are we doing at the point guard position? There could be some big changes. Tim Connolly seems like a GM that's not afraid to make a big move, but I can't wait to sort of break that down.

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Where they go from here, or is it just like, yep, stick with this, hope our guy Ant grows, and that we continue to compete with these teams?

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Well, more Wolves talk to come here in the coming days, I'm sure, and what they're going to do this offseason with some of those decisions. Like I said, a couple of those are player options, but we'll get into that later. Let's get into some slop, though. Yeah, bring out the piggies. Let's do it. All right, first one here in slop season.

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All eyes are on what the Sixers are going to do with the number three pick at next month's draft. While holding on, bringing in new talent is the likely move. It has been suggested that a trade is... Not ruled out. According to the Stein line, Mark Stein says, if the Sixers trade their pick, it's likely in a trade-down scenario, but they wouldn't go, quote, very far.

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So if they move off the number three pick, it'd be this idea that it would go back a little bit in the draft, still get somebody, but they maybe don't see someone they like at number three. Let's break this down. What do you think maybe the Sixers should do, will do here with the number three pick?

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Well, that's what we're getting at here. If you're the Sixers, you're going to move back in the draft if you're fairly certain that your preferred prospect, at least, is still going to be available to you. And that you can also pick up an asset and still get the guy you wanted, be it a player or even more picks, more bites at the apple, right? Great article on Philly Voice.

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where they took a trip down NBA draft memory lane to sort of help contemplate what the Sixers might be able to get for the number three pick if they sort of go that way of moving back. Some good ones here. DeAndre Hunter, that trade in 2019. The Pelicans had the number four pick overall after the Anthony Davis deal. The Hawks, they were enamored with DeAndre Hunter.

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They wanted to move up, and the Pelicans were fine with stockpiling assets. So the Hawks consolidated three later picks, 8, 17, and 35, to move up to number four to take Hunter. A clear comp this year could be the Nets. You said it there, Trey. They have a bunch of first-round picks, so they could take three of those picks, eight, let's say, 19, 35, whatever.

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You could offer that to move up to number three with the Sixers. I think there's something there. That makes a little bit of sense. But again, all of these, the Nets, these other ones I'm going to bring up, they have to be enamored with Ace Bailey. or Vijay Ekum.

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Like, they have to want someone so bad to move up to number three that you're willing to give up either more draft capital or players, right? A few of the other ones, I mean, the obvious one is the Luka-Trey trade of 2018. Atlanta had the number three pick. They were fascinated with Trey Young. Conversely, the Mavericks, they wanted Luka Doncic. They were at number five. So they swapped spots.

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Dallas... gave Atlanta a lightly protected future first round pick to do the swap because, you know, Luka was the bigger prospect still, but again, the Hawks wanted Trey Young. An obvious comp here could be the Sixers trading the number three pick to the Jazz.

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for the number five pick and then a future pick let's say 2027 by way of the lakers or something like that or you could trade the number three pick to the wizards for the number six pick and a future first round pick let's say in 2029 or something like that but again In this example, the Jazz or the Wizards have to want to move up because they're like, oh, we really want Ace Bailey.

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We really want him. And he's not going to be there at 5 or 6, so they would have to do that. And then the final one, you've got to go back to 2008. O.J. Mayo, Kevin Love, getting swapped around draft night. The Wolves had the No. 3 overall pick. But they wanted to get Kevin Love and the Grizzlies. They were picking at number five. They wanted O.J. Mayo. They thought he was the superior prospect.

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So they just basically swapped those. I think they actually drafted the guys and they did the trade. And there was a bunch of other guys thrown in. A bunch of filler, to be honest. But Mike Miller was in the trade, too. So he was like, the Wolves got the number five pick and Mike Miller in that trade. What would be similar this year? Maybe the Pelicans? Yeah.

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If, again, they really want like a Bailey or a Vijay Edgecombe, you could trade the number three pick, Kelly Oubre Jr., Andre Drummond, to the Pelicans for the number seven pick, and then a good player. Herb Jones would be awesome, I think, for Philly. Now, I don't think the Pels would do that unless, again, they love one of those guys that they don't think will be there at seven.

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So good stuff from the Philly Voice. I thought that was like, well, taking a little trip down memory lane and like maybe, maybe some things that they could explore this summer.

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Right. But like the Sixers aren't going to trade Paul George in the number three pick for like Kevin Durant. Let's say. Sons would do that in a heartbeat. Yes. Heartbeat. But why would Philly do that? I mean, that'd be silly, I think. Because they need some young talent.

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If the fifth pick comes back in that to Philly, then they're still getting a chance to get a player that they might really like. Obviously high still, not the third pick, but someone they like. I don't know.

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It also just comes down to, like, people are really torn on whether Ace Bailey is going to be, like, a star player in this league. You see one camp say, yeah, man, this guy's the next Kevin Durant. And then you see the whole other side say, do not draft him. Not at number three. They should be wise to move down because he's not that type of player. So I don't know. I'm not a draft expert. No clue.

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I mean, with all of this, it's like we don't have really any idea. But this is why we're getting at this, right? It's like this idea of, like, They're like, we don't really love who's going to be there at three because we're missing out on Cooper and Dylan Harper, who feel like the two, like, oh, okay, you can sort of pencil those guys into stars maybe. Here it gets interesting.

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It's like, I don't know, Edgecombe, Bailey, which one? And then are you even convinced that they can help you win right now with the construction of your team? That's the other part, right? Led by Embiid. So we'll see.

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All right, next piece of slop here. The LA Clippers, they're expected to be active on the trade market during the offseason. They outperformed expectations this past season. They may want to stay in contention, still flirt as a 50-win team and moving forward.

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During a recent episode of Run It Back, former Clips guard Lou Williams revealed that he believes the Clippers could make a play for Charlotte Hornets point guard LaMelo Ball. Now, this isn't the first time LaMelo Ball has been in rumors to go to the Clippers. His brother said this like two weeks ago, predicting that LaMelo will end up on the Los Angeles Clippers.

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They have no young talent, and like you said, have almost no picks. I don't understand how the hell you're going to pull off this trade outside of a third team folded in somehow. I can see him getting to the Clippers one of these days, but I... Right now, I'm struggling. They're not going to have Dylan Harper. I'm sorry to break it to you.

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I don't think he's falling to four to the Hornets or whatever. I guess that would be the clip. It doesn't make any sense.

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Okay. Anyway, I can't figure it out, but what do you think, TK, about these rumors?

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Yeah. But, you know, with LaMelo, it's like he can't stay healthy either. Like his last three seasons have been very, very bad in terms of health with ankles and stuff like that.

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Again, that's three years running. That's been the case. And like Trey said, he's locked into that. I guess he's going into the second year of a five-year $204 million contract, whatever it was. And they don't win a lot when he plays.

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Final piece of slop here. You know, it's not really trade rumor slop here, but Jake Fisher reports that Josh Giddey will be seeking at least $120 million over five years from the Bulls in restricted free agency. Had a really good season with Chicago. The Aussie averaged 14.6 points per game, eight boards, seven assists. And his numbers, like they ballooned after the All-Star break.

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He was putting up some crazy box scores. So TK, we'll start with you as the Bulls guy here. What's your take on Giddey seeking five years, $120 million deal from the Chicago Bulls?

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So what's he going to sign here then? A $30 million per?

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No, Chicago. Because I'm with Trey. There's not a lot of other elsewheres to go. And the Bulls. I mean, he did play well. This guy's only 22 still somehow.

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Blowing my mind. I feel like these guys are four or five years older, all of them. But anyway.

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Well, this is my point. If this is like the first report, and then his camp asked for 35 a year or whatever, and maybe it's somewhere in the middle is what we get to. It feels like it's going to be annually between 30 and 35 million. And that's sort of where we're at.

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He's the type of player that sort of gets that type of money, especially when you went through those cards that were in that $25 million per range. He was better than some of those names you were listing. Yeah, for sure. For sure. So that's what he'll probably get. Just how much will be the overpay. That'll be the concern. As a Bulls fan, I guess.

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We know he can't play in the playoffs. Yeah, that's the thing. He's only traded to like 10 or 11 markets with like, okay, we'll take and trade for Josh Giddey because we're so bad that we just want to compete and be in a play-in race or maybe get into the postseason with all these teams with obviously higher hopes. Yeah, they know we've seen what happens in a postseason.

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Though, you know, look, he did. The three-point shot was there in March. He needs to sustain it and show it for obviously a full season. Yes, he did.

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all right that's a slop good start to slop season here i love it for no dunks uh we'll call it there um obviously a game on tonight indiana pacers can uh book their ticket to the nba finals any predictions we are in madison square garden for this one can the knicks give us a game six back in uh indianapolis six yeah what do you think when would that be that would be on the weekend

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You think we get... Okay, here you go. Are we getting some NBA basketball played this weekend? Or are we going to have an empty weekend?

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Do we have a status on Carl Anthony Towns? Knee injury there that he sustained at the end of game four? Smacked it. Yeah.

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Okay. Yeah. More effort than the Wolves showed last night? Yes. Okay.

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We're getting basketball on the weekend. I think the Knicks give us a game six. So hopefully it's an entertaining game. Whoever wins, we'll be here tomorrow on the Drop Podcast to talk about that at 10 a.m. Eastern. So join us then. We'll do rapid fire, maybe some more slop. Who knows? We'll see you then. Hit the like button, subscribe. If you're a Survivor fan, we got a new No Buffs episode.

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Yeah, the season's over, but we just found out who's on Survivor 50. which doesn't happen until 2026. We got a whole season before Survivor 50, but they did reveal the cast this week, and it's obviously all returnee players, so we got some opinions on this squad, and we're going to talk about it today at 1 p.m. Eastern over on No Buffs. Myself, Trey, JD, and Nora.

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I think it'll be informative for some people that maybe don't know a lot of these returning players, at least some of the older ones. We'll get you all caught up. But that's later today. Until then, Clipper Bros! You heard it here first. Have a great time. Turn up. Love you guys. Awesome.

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Yes. Get your lamello ball trade packages in, either to the Clippers or other teams. Let's see them. Until tomorrow, race of the day, people.

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It was. I did write in my notes, Trey, that the OKC defense in the first quarter, really in the first half, it was looking like a Waffle House menu. Smothered. Covered. A little country even. Strong is what I mean by that. They were everywhere. They had a 33-point lead. They had 14 turnovers. Minnesota did. And yeah, it was... I saw Randall, Nas Reed, a couple of these other guys.

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They were terrified to dribble. Because there's too many goddamn demons, as Mike Breen called them on OKC.

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I also, I was dying. I mean, this game got so out of hand in a hurry. We got the frustrated Minnesota Timberwolves slow-mo pack. from ESPN early in this game. And I'm talking about Nas Reid frustrated, Randall slow-mo, like, oh, quick shot of Anthony Edwards with his sort of, you know, the towel to his face on the bench. Just like, what are we going to do with this OKC team?

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We're already out of it. Also McDaniel starting 0 for 6. Really did not help. 0 for 3 from deep. He went full Charlie Brown mode. That third one, he missed a wide open corner three that the Thunder have been giving up. He missed another one early in this game and just dropped his head like he was Charlie Brown walking back.

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And it was like, ooh, this is going to be a long night here, I think, for Minnesota. But yeah, you said then, SGI on the other end. orchestrating everything. At the half, too, you still had Jalen Williams and Chad Holmgren chipping in. They had 15 points apiece at the half. It was just an ass-kicking. And they're headed back to the finals, again, for the first time.

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First time with this core and first time for a franchise in a long time.

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Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast presented by Amazon Prime. It's Thursday, May 29th, 2025. I'm J.E. Skeets here in the Classic Factory, and alongside me, as always, Tass Mellis.

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I mean, yeah, the second half, I guess, the Wolves got it to what? Did it get to 24-25? I mean, that's what they cut it to. They showed some life there. And there was even a play. I think it was around 24-25 they were down. They had gone on a little run. And Anthony Edwards had swung it to the side to Nikhil Alexander-Walker because the pressure was up on Anthony Edwards. Ant went to cut backdoor.

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You know, maybe they make that pass, and he scores, and suddenly it's 20, and there's a lot of time left, but that was the one where SGA deflects it from his cousin, Nikhil Alexander-Walker, and then bully balls him on the other end, sort of like, get out of the way, and laid it in, and sort of was like, okay, that's it.

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And then even in the fourth quarter, Dagnall was like, hey, we are going to go for the knockout punch here, because they did start SGA, J-Dub, they had Cech, Caruso, and Case and Wallace. Like, that's like one of their best lineups, and it was like, okay, let's just put this to bed, no even chance for a miraculous comeback, so... And they did their work.

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Yeah, like, Breen was even, like, Mike Breen, who never, like, yeah, like, leans into, like, hyperbole or stuff like that. He was like, the Timberwolves got to snap out of it here. Like, he was pleading for, like, wake up, guys, like, a little fight or, like, start hitting some shots to, like, give us something here because this is going to be a long game sitting beside Doris and RJ here.

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Next to him, it's the bearded one, my top shot hot boy, Trey Kirby. Ayo. Ayo. And last but not least, over yonder, making the magic happen, Super Producer J.D. Hello. There he is. Here we are. You must have loved that cold open, J.D., because you are a man that loves a bath. Oh. I'm with you, Willem. I'm with you.

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No, and I think they, like, as the series went on, he's, like, gets a little more predictable to these guys, too. They know where to help and where to swipe at, and so many times, like, you know, the internet was calling him Dubious Handle last night instead of Julius Randle. Like... That's tough. I mean, again, and I even said, I almost came to his defense as bad as he was.

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I thought Nas Reid was even worse. He was horrible. He had a bad series. He was bad. Owen Phillips did tweet, this might be the only matchup in history where the defensive player, Caruso,

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is mismatch hunting the offensive player julius randall it's usually on the other end i think there's some truth to that you don't see that very often they're like almost like yeah come on come on julius try and back me up and then spin because we're going to steal it from you because the help's coming or i'll just rip it from you so yeah it got out of hand in a hurry and uh okay she's awesome they're awesome they're awesome this is one of the best defenses we've ever seen

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That's not, that sounds silly, but it's not. It just is. And, you know, it's going to be stamped with approval if they can obviously win the title, win four more games. I mean, they're going to win the title.

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OKC, this team, Thunder 2025, drawing a lot of comparisons to the 2014-15 Golden State Warriors that go on to win the title too, and it's

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pretty fun when you sort of like go through the comps first time MVPs Shea this year obviously way back then it was Steph Curry winning his first MVP that second all-star super important you know the Warriors that was the year that Klay Thompson became an all-star and sort of blossomed into the guy we know and love now He was the number 11 pick in the 2011 draft.

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Again, he's the second star along with Curry in his MVP season. The Thunder, that's J-Dub. Grabbed him at the number 12 spot in 2022. He became a first-time All-Star and is like, had some bumps in the road here in the postseason, but over this series was like next level. Top-ranked defense between the two teams.

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The Warriors, Drayvon Green, Iguodala, Klay was awesome defensively way back in the day. Harrison Barnes, Sean Livingston, Thunder. We talk about these guys all the time. Dork, Caruso, J-Dub, Case and Wallace, Chet Holmgren as they're big. Both squads, 26 and under, their main core. That's sort of like wild to think, like, you know, the Warriors now, these are all old guys.

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But back then, those guys were all not really even in their prime yet. Curry, Draymond, Klay, same thing here with the Thunder. And then the final piece is similar playoff paths even right now. Both teams swept their first round series, Golden State over New Orleans, OKC over Memphis. Both teams had their toughest pre-final series in the second round.

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Yeah. Wow. Well, you know what? Let's help out JD. Let's hit the like button. Let's subscribe. Let's leave the five-star ratings and reviews, and maybe we can, you know, pool all of that support into a tub. Yeah.

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Remember, Golden State was down 2-1 to the Grizzlies in the second round before they rallied to win in six. OKC needed seven against Jokic and the Nuggets. And then both teams won their conference finals in five games. Golden State over Houston, OKC over Minnesota.

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And so we'll see if, obviously, the Thunder, and you believe this, that they're going to complete sort of that comp perfectly and win that title like the Warriors did yesterday.

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in 1415 as like oh no they're too young you gotta go through all these like uh runs to the postseason and you know take your licks but they're sort of like do we i mean we did a little a little they did just like the warriors did but not usually or people are always like it's like two three four steps this would be a second step basically

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Yeah, they kept on going. So many minutes for Thomas Bryant. Felt like they played him a ton. But his minutes were bad out there, and then somehow Obi Toppin comes in, and he was a miracle out there. Revenge game. Revenge game for Obi. Yeah, the beautiful up and under. I mean, I thought even his minutes in the first half, he could have...

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He had a ball in the wing, but they're just running the proper place. He could have taken it to the hoop in a one-on-one situation, but he didn't. They're just playing. They're playing great ball. That's so many of these guys. Not incredible games to start as the Knicks. You know, the Pacers got up that big lead, but Mitchell Robinson.

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Good start. Yeah. But then when Carl Anthony Towns went to the bench, they're... Down a couple points, but Mitchell Robinson was amazing to get them the lead at the end of the first quarter. That guy just offensive rebound turned into a free throw for him. Offensive rebound again. Got fouled again. Offensive rebound. Gave it to McBride for a three. Then he got an alley-oop.

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Then he blocked a Halliburton three. And then he's a beautiful steal on a nice strip. It looked like this was the Knicks night to be up 14 freaking points with 250 left. That is freaking unbelievable.

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But, you know, the Pacers saved it. I appreciate the NBA not calling a foul there. That would have been horrendous.

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Yeah, he did touch his body with his other arm as he was blocking it, and he grabbed his jersey. So you could easily say, yes, it was a foul because he was hitting him, but it had nothing to do with the play. Spicy P is Mr. Clean. That was clean. Spicy P is Mr. Clean.

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Oh, absolutely. The worst feeling we can have.

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I am checking the play-by-play because I do think the referee was also waiting for substitutions that were on the sideline. Okay, interesting. Good catch. I just like giving the referees a little bit of respect when they deserve it because we always rip them when they do not deserve it, which is right. A lot of the calls against Shea Gildress Alexander in Game 1 of the Western Conference Finals.

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Oh, gosh. Hard to watch. In this scenario... They did a great day. 30 seconds left because they didn't award that foul for the Knicks on Pascal Siakam.

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They were not perfect, Skeets. They were not perfect, but I got to sit in a bar in New York City in Hell's Kitchen because they made the right call in that situation to see Knicks fans literally cry and not wash their hands. It was a pleasure. One guy.

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You don't want to touch the bill. No, for sure. Do they bounce back? I mean, we are.

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I'm like minutes in the moment right now. Yeah.

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That was the best Towns playoff game of his career, was it not? I mean, he... Had it all. He was yelling to the fans in the fourth quarter as they were up double digits. Yeah. It felt like his game. And then even in overtime, I know it didn't feel like the Knicks were ever going to come back. But they were up four.

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I mean, the Pacers didn't score for a couple minutes. Then Nembhard gave the ball away. They're still down four. And then Brunson somehow missed the layup. And then that was the Turner block. And then...

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Yeah, Nembhard responded with that three right after passing it passing it away, he turned it over, and then he turned it into a three. I mean, that guy is resilient. He wasn't playing in the fourth quarter. He comes off the bench and was monstrous in that overtime to piggyback Halliburton, to piggyback Neesmith. They got the performances after. Those numbers are ridiculous for Townsend, Brunson.

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It feels like that was... That was their game. So the question is, yeah, Friday, as the bouncer was saying, we'll see you Friday. We'll see you Friday, everybody.

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And to send the ball out of the frame because it went up so high. You've got to be kidding me. How did that shot go down?

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Oh, gosh, it feels deflating. But you think they bounce back and win, I assume. Must win, for sure.

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JD did a great job of doing exactly that and not touching a thing. Yeah, you played it smart. You didn't have a crumb. That was wild. Wow. That mozzarella stick squirted in my mouth. I literally had to look onto my white pants and see if it was juicing everywhere.

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Yeah, there's mozzarella stick juice all over it.

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Well, there's chocolate. And there's chocolate. We should have got the chocolate. We should have got the chocolate. Yeah, Timothée Chalamet. I didn't think Reggie Miller, after listening back to Halliburton's shot where he pulled out the choke, Reggie didn't say anything. He didn't?

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I lived in the moment live in the bar. So we were okay with it being silent. I mean, we couldn't hear the play-by-play at all.

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Holy moly. JD, from a production standpoint...

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okay yeah is everybody look at oh yeah we're getting the uh oh we can see it here yeah just to the top of the shot how high is the top of the shot clock yeah good that's the question are they furious in the truck saying how did that bounce out of the frame should should they have been somebody got fired today they don't care statewide okay okay no i mean

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It was so high. Yeah. We couldn't see.

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I'm so proud of that Canadian. Yeah. I am. I like that it's given to him on a day where they aren't playing. I don't think they're going to do a pregame hand him the trophy thing.

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Of course, they want to go crazy for him. But I think that he's decided, I don't want this as part of my playoff run.

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Because they haven't done the... Well, it's just so late. They haven't done it on camera. They haven't given it to them. Quite often we see these trophies handed in some sort of room in the arena. They haven't given it to them.

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They may not do it on the court because I think he doesn't want to make it a part of it. He is focused. He is locked in. It's about the ship. And it's about getting there. And it's not about this trophy. I hope they hand it to him tomorrow night. Really?

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But the drama was so good because he pulls out the choke, the Reggie Miller choke.

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Because he thought it was over, but his foot was on the line. So it would have been pretty fitting for Knicks fans if he ended up choking along with the Pacers and the Knicks won.

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You've never been there. That ain't your backyard.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hammer?

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He's watching. Made a laneway house. He loves this show. They make great steel. They make great steel.

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It is scenic, but there are a couple hills in Hamilton. You can get a house on a hill, and it's got a great view.

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Yeah, it seemed fake. Oh, okay. Because I went back and I watched. Why would he say, hey, I'm from Hamilton. Why would Jamal Murray say do it for the six? Yeah, I know. But Jamal Murray said do it for the six.

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Yeah, they will put it on a sign. That's for sure. Just like they put it on a sign for Gretzky and Brantford.

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He'll be there forever. Even if they don't have water, they're just going to be there. Just a comment here from Jason Flowers here in the stream team who said they didn't want to give it to him when Jokic was playing while they were still playing in the second round against Jokic. Okay. He beat him. Yep.

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But that was an early choke because they didn't win the game on that shot, which went out of frame.

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But I'm thankful for the NBA for not calling that foul with 30 seconds left on Pascal Siakam that the Pacers challenged and it was overturned because it wasn't a foul. You could have called it a foul. You could have said, ah, he is pushing on his jersey, on OG's jersey when OG dropped the ball. But I'm happy just to watch that basketball game after that foul because that was... That was amazing.

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And will Shea get the award? I don't think he will. I don't think he will.

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Can't believe it. Who did he talk to for three minutes? He talked to Malik Andrews. Yeah. And then post-game, he did another ESPN hit.

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20 points in the fourth quarter for that man.

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No, it just seems like this Pacers team is destined for destiny. I don't know. Yeah, there is no other way to look at it because those guys that you just mentioned, Neesmith and Nembhard, they didn't look all that good late in the fourth quarter. Brunson's on the bench. It looks like the Pacers could go for a run. It was with nine minutes left.

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The Knicks were up seven and they're having a bad possession where Deuce McBride gets it at the top with Like 20 seconds left on the shot clock. Time is dwindling down, but somehow he goes up for a shot and Nembhard with a terrible foul. He goes to the free throw line. They're up nine. And then at the other end, Pascal Siakam has a dunk opportunity blocked by Deuce McBride. What a block that was.

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Then Carl Anthony Towns goes to the other end and then a terrible foul by Aaron Neesmith to foul him. at the three-point line. So now it's a 12-point lead. They go up 14 points.

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Yeah, so it looks like it's over. They go up 16 points at that point in the fourth quarter. And somehow those two guys, the Neesmith show, he just recovers all of a sudden. He was having... You know, a fine game. But that fourth quarter. Oh, my God. I mean, to turn it up. He went eight for nine from three. Aaron Neesmith is now shooting 56% from three for the postseason.

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That is a ridiculous number, period. And then, yeah, Andrew Nebhard was having a pretty quiet game. But after the Halliburton shot, he turned it on in overtime. He had eight points in the game until then. But then... after he sat most of the fourth quarter for Ben Shepard, he was called on in overtime, and he turned it around.

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Seven points in overtime, and then that huge tip of the ball off of Brunson's fingers with 20 seconds left, which would have been monstrous if the Knicks had the ball. Brunson tried to go out of bounds and say, hey, I'm inbounding, I'm inbounding. Rick Carlisle still had a challenge. He used it right then and there. Huge. It just seems like these guys are destiny. Nembhardt.

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and knee smith the double ends get nick nurse's hat on those guys are awesome how did they do that combined with uh haliburton shot that hit the freaking rim and went out of frame and i don't know if tnt is asking right now how do we have to zoom out for these guys like how did that ball leave the frame and still go in that was a ridiculous ridiculous shot

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We're in a bed, but there's no way we can go to sleep after that basketball game.

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Yeah. He's having such a quiet game. That guy was having such a quiet game. It just, there's no way it can't be destiny when that guy was shooting 29% from three this season.

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And in the playoffs, 50%. I mean, he's a new guy. And he was having a quiet game. And then he turned it on in overtime. They needed, obviously, Neesmith. They needed Halliburton.

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Yeah. It looked like they were going to do it.

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What happened? What happened? Howard Burton comes up. Miles Bridges does a great job of taking away the three. So he goes in. Mitchell Robinson's here. Guess I can't shoot it. Decides to pull back out and somehow his terrible shot bounces straight up into the air and goes in. Yeah, I'd be mad. pissing and washing my hands as well.

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Exactly. Now Pacers fans, I'm sure, are putting together the terrible lowlights from the Knicks in the OG Ananobi missed dunk. OG Ananobi dropped the ball with 30 seconds left. OG Ananobi missed free throw. And Carl Anthony Towns. Let's just go silent as long as it took Carl Anthony Towns to shoot that free throw. Let's emulate how long it took. Because that missed free throw.

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Yeah, he was kind of taking off the line there. They iced him a little bit. Yeah, they did. And then when he got to the free throw line, it was... It was longer than Giannis Adetokounmpo free throw attempt. That was forever. I think he was thinking about it a little bit. Oh, he was. Yeah, he was in his feelings, man.

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I know we'll look ahead to what the Warriors do next, but let's talk about Minnie going back to the WCF.

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yeah yeah it would have been yeah and a lot of people still had the wolves advancing in that scenario right like i mean a lot of people taking the wolves some people taking warriors in six or seven it was going to be a obviously a much more competitive series i don't think it ends in five if steph curry is healthy and playing i i don't as great as the wolves have looked but that's a who knows because he didn't play and he only played what he played 13 minutes in the end

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Yeah, and they got that one, but couldn't win from here on out. I saw people saying this is a gentleman's sweep. No. This is a douchebag sweep, you said. That's a DB. Yeah. Don't forget about the douchebag sweep. And this one we almost can't even call a douchebag sweep because you have the Curry injury. The game changed. Yeah, it changes the equation completely, but...

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Gentlemen's sweep, to us here at No Dunks, that is only you win the first three games, and as a gentleman, you doff your cap and give them game four. Usually at home, because you're the better team, you're the higher ranked team. You give them game four. You give them a victory in front of their fans to end their season in style, and then you go home and take care of business in game five.

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That's the gentlemen's sweep. People like to throw around Gentleman's Sweep for any series that ends in five, and I do not like it. I do not care for it, and I'm speaking for the both of you as well. We're not going to stand for it. It's fine.

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Oh my God, did we ever dance? Holy crap. Shout out to Graydon. Any other notes on Wolves-Warriors, either this game, the Wolves moving forward into the Western Conference Finals, or the Warriors offseason? Anything else you want to touch on?

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Really? Despite being in the Eastern Conference? The much easier conference? No offense to them.

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I like it. That is great. Chris Finch is on one right now. He's having a great postseason. And he's like their second best poke guy.

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Well, geez, how do you rank? I mean, Anthony Edwards has to be included in the best quote guys on the Wolves. Yeah, that's a great call. They got a three-headed monster there when it comes to the quotes. Finch has got it all. He's got a drop. Whoa, baby. We got a fire alarm going on out there?

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We could find out if we need to evacuate or not. We do not. Okay, good.

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What was it? That's a fire alarm. Oh, okay. I thought you were saying this thing and you were touching your computer.

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There you go. Is anybody else in the house right now, or are we going to have to deal with it ourselves here? Okay. Hopefully it'll go off. There goes JD. I guess we'll talk about this game a little bit more. Somebody give me a note. There he goes.

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Guys, the factory's falling apart before our very eyes. Things are falling. The other day we did a show and something just straight up fell. Remember that? Scared the hell out of us. Now we got fire alarms going off. Exciting.

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It was too hot in the house. That's why the fire alarm was going off. So we got the air conditioning on now.

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Mad humidity. Everywhere. I should turn it on in here. I don't know why I turned it off.

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Okay. It's a great question. It's a great question because you can talk yourself into either side of that. I think people are diminishing a little bit. Again, the Western Conference is loaded.

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And I know, again, the Curry injury changes everything. But if I had told you, hey, the Wolves are going back to the Western Conference Finals before the postseason starts, you'd go, okay, cool. Who do they play? They take down a young Rockets team. Do they, whatever, beat the Clippers, whatever. And I say, no, no, no.

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They're going to beat LeBron, Luka, and the Lakers, and then they're going to beat Curry, Jimmy Butler, Draymond Green, and the Warriors. And you'd go, really? I don't know. That's pretty impressive. I picked him in both series, so I wouldn't be surprised.

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Pacers did beat a 64-win team, though, in the Cavs, who took their foot off the gas at the end, too.

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Yeah, we need one of those signs that says that you changed the day, how many days there's been since so-and-so, like drama-free here in the Classic Factory or whatever. Oh, okay. Like they have accident-free, I guess, in factories. Yeah. We're at zero. We're at zero for the last while. Back to zero.

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We've been at zero every day, I would say, for the last week in terms of YouTube streams malfunctioning, things falling. We had a robot yesterday.

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All right. Well, speaking of injuries, no Jason Tatum playing last night. Didn't matter to the Celtics. Earlier in the night, Celtics lived to play another day, beating the Knicks 127-102 in Game 5, narrowing New York's series lead to 3-2. Game 5, first time that the Celtics didn't lead by at least nine points at halftime, Trey. It was tied.

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59-59, but it was also the first time that Boston didn't struggle there in the second half, and they were dominant in the third quarter and put the game away there.

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About his stat? About his quarter and how great it was? Yeah. Cornett played the entire third quarter. Four points, five block shots, five boards in just that third quarter. That really changed the game. According to Crazy Stats, Hakeem Olajuwon is the only player since 96-97, since the NBA started tracking play-by-play data, to match or exceed Cornette's production in a single playoff quarter.

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That's the stat I saw. He had an Hakeem Olajuwon quarter.

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Oh, yeah. Okay, okay. Anyways, crazy stats. So those were just the blocks and the rebounds in the quarter. I added the points. I guess that gets it to Akeem, which is why.

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Well, from the jump even, that was a change they did. put Jalen Brown on Brunson, try and slow him. He was locked in defensively, and then he had, obviously, the offensive burden as well, Brown did. I wrote early in my notes, yeah, Brown is playing like a guy who's not ready to hit the beach. And that was before what you said, Tass, before that awesome steal, dive into his own bench to save it.

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Mm-hmm. Oh, my God, that guy did not want to lose in front of his home crowd, and he wants to at least give them a chance there in Madison Square Garden on Friday night. That's going to be fun. I saw Schumann with a great stat, too, about Jalen Brown trying to slow Brunson.

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The Knicks set 41 ball screens for Brunson, but Jalen Brown just wasn't giving up the switch in a lot of those, wasn't giving them up early. He was fantastic.

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fighting his ass off defensively in addition to the 26 12 and 8 so play the song jd he was he was man that just takes effort these guys can do it they're all professional athletes but it takes effort and uh yeah he did a great job and then of course he had brunson with the weird fouls i love the part where brunson fouled out they put him on the jumbotron he noticed he was on the big screen

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He waved at the crowd. Very funny. Very hilarious. It's like anyone you put on TV, and they're like, you're on live TV. They'll, like, wave.

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Oh, yeah. That was fun at the end of the first half when both teams caught fire there for a second because you had Brunson scoring, you had Josh Hart hitting threes, and then you had Pritchard and Derek White splashing threes. The points went tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, and it was 59-59 at the half, and I think it was like... White and Brown had a combined 36 points at the half.

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Like it was doing a lot of the heavy lifting with all the threes from White and Brown, obviously getting to the line and setting guys up. Not easy to eliminate the defending champs with or without Tatum. So that was cool. And now, you know, I don't know if the buttholes get tight there on Friday night, Madison Square Garden. I don't know if you start going, oh, they got to win.

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Can't go back to Boston, win game seven on the road. But at least we get more basketball.

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he did have a good game you know he was getting deflections and 13 rebounds and hit the free throws which was huge but yeah you're right about cat this was one of those cat games where we in the past have said what are you doing man why are you fouling there why are your limbs not working why are you making that face like it's like no real good rhythm for him in this game so he has to have a much much better performance especially like let's be honest like

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You better win the Cornette-Horford matchup there, Kat, in Game 6 at home. You better. That better be for you, the advantage for the Knicks. How about the second half there, starting with the shoving match, too? refs did a good job of handling it quickly. I was so shocked by how fast we were giving out text to the two guys. I'm talking about Brown and Hart.

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And then it was a common foul on Brown because I assessed that he did maybe a little bit of a dick grab or a dick punch. It was a lower stomach area. I don't know where you want to say it was, but... They did it quick. It was like, oh, we can do this. It doesn't need to take 15 minutes of us looking at this.

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Yeah, it was the start of it. It was the start of it. And then in the first quarter, this was on the same play, right? Where we had Brunson chucking his little elbow that caught Jalen Brown below the belt or right there. No call on that. And as obviously he continued and the ball got to Josh Hart,

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He then goes in, and Cornette caught him with an inadvertent elbow and just busted up Josh Hart's face. The blood just streaming down. Oh, yeah. As if a makeup artist would do this. It's so perfect. And he got the stitches there, and he was still in his game. He was about to go back to the locker. They're like, dude, you're going to the line.

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It was like, okay, let me get out here, hit these free throws, wipe the blood off, change my jersey, and then continue to play. He had a full uniform next to him? Just waiting? That was so quick to get to him. Did somebody run back and get it? Because he needed to change his shorts and his jersey. There was a lot of blood. I don't know, was that more blood than Porzingis?

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Yeah. But he obviously continued to play, actually had a pretty good game where he was hitting threes for sure. Season high.

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So Wolves closing out the Warriors last night. Teams that have trailed 3-1 in a best-of-seven have come back to win the series just 13 times. That's 4.4%. 295 opportunities. Odds are still certainly against the Celtics, under 5%. But again, Friday night, you get that one, and then things get real fun in a Game 7.

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What else? Anything else from this one that we see? You think Cornette starts? You don't even waste those minutes of trying to see what you get from Porzingis in Game 6? Or do you? Where do you go if you're Joey Maz?

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Yeah. I don't know. We even saw some Torrey Craig minutes. Sam Houser back. I mean, that's a nice addition. He did hit a couple threes coming back from his injury. So we'll see. Game six. What do you think in the stream team? You think this goes seven? Or do the Knicks close it out there on Friday night? Man, that ticket's getting more and more expensive. They were saying what?

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It was like $900 just to get in? To game four. Wow. So that's got to be, I don't know, you would assume it's even more on a Friday night to potentially close out.

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Well, yeah, to get, but to get in. Unless there's a back door we don't know about, yeah. Come in through the kitchen.

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I don't know. I mean, I guess Chalamet, he's gone on McAfee, hasn't he? He's a sports guy for sure. Yeah. He likes sports.

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Alright, let's get into some Is This News. Alright, you guys were pumped 30 minutes ago for this. Where's that energy right now? Oh, yeah! You want some headlines? We got them. They're not the greatest headlines. I've got a lot to give you, but let's get into them.

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Draymond Green was fined $50,000 by the NBA on Wednesday for making an inappropriate comment that questions the integrity of game officials during that loss to the Wolves, I guess back in Game 3. Green's fine was for a comment made after he had fouled out. referring to the 5.5 point spread among sportsbooks. Is this news? Was that Game 3 or Game 4? I think it was Game 3. Yeah, it was Game 3.

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So, okay, this one coming from ESPN. Draymond Green, fine for questioning refs' integrity. Is this news, Tassman? Let's get us started here.

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The Wolves, credit them. The Wolves picked the perfect moment to have one of their best shooting nights of the postseason here. They shot 63% from the floor, TK. Yeah, 42% from deep. Mike Conley getting in on the fun, hitting four threes. They also scored a ton in the paint. 72 points to the Warriors, 48. And...

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When it comes to gambling, for sure. Yes, exactly.

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Yeah, it is interesting when you compare it. I guess it's slightly different because Gobera was more directed at the officials, right? Now, I guess you could say Draymond was sort of too fouling out. But then this was weird because the Wolves were leading 102-94 with like 15 seconds left. And that's when he was seen doing the whole mouthing thing.

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It didn't happen when Draymond went out of the game, which was like four and a half minutes. It was later with him on the bench that he's seen mouthing the five and a half point spread. And then what happens? They take a bunch of threes. Kaminga hits one. So they covered. Wait, because they, yeah, I guess the Wolves were the five and a half point favorites. Sure.

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So the Warriors covered because they lost by five in that game. Anyway, my point is, is that like directed at the officials or more just the concept of the sports books and the gambling?

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Messing with money, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Next one here. This one came out of nowhere yesterday. According to NBA insider Mark Stein, the Atlanta Hawks are interested in hiring Toronto Raptors president Masai Ujiri for their vacant head of basketball operations role. Tassel, again, let's start with you. You're the Raps fan here. Is this news? Hawks, caca, eyeing Masai Ujiri.

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When they weren't turning the ball over, because that was like the one thing where you're like, okay, Minnesota, stop turning it over. They had 21 in this game. That's a lot. But when they weren't doing that, they were scoring more times than not. Everybody was just clicking last night to the point where they were dancing. Oh, yeah. Dancing in Minnesota.

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it's fair I'm thinking it that's a very good point look Messiah is not like we haven't seen the best work from Messiah over the last couple years the Siakam trade and the OG trade they came too late and they were not great returns in my personal opinion especially the Siakam he built two conference finalists Indiana and New York that's right he's actually killing it yeah you're right that's a good point but the Siakam one especially but we've gone over that and I don't need to like go over that again

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Good stuff from the Hawks here. I like seeing Atlanta Hawks wanting to target obviously a prominent name like Masai Ujiri. And there are a couple other names that Stein is reporting on too. I love the idea of like some bold ambition here to try and get a real voice to like... take over and reshape their basketball identity. Like that, a lot. But I'm with you, TK.

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We've seen and heard this dance before with Masai Ujiri. Is it a leverage play just to get, obviously, more money, more prominent role? I mean, he basically has the highest role you can get with the rap, so...

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outside of like just straight up owning the team i don't know where he goes next maybe just tired and moving on you know that does happen with these gms from time to time it's like okay i've done my part here i even won a championship here maybe i just try something else i guess it's possible but i like it from atlanta just like these showing some like oh we want the best of the best at least in their mind to come here and try and lead our team so that's cool but yeah we'll see here also there's a bunch of yannis to the raptors trade rumors now here too we're not doing that again

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We can't do that again. We've done it before, Tess. Just going through the rumors, you mean? Just going through the idea that Giannis is going to go to the Raptors. You think that's actually going to happen?

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Yes, I do remember. Well, it's funny you brought that up. I think one of the other names rumored for this head role in Atlanta is Giannis' agent. The Greek, I know he has two Greek agents. I can't remember which one it is.

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That one, yes, yes. Apparently his name is coming up in these talks. What about his brother? He's got a great podcast. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah, you signed for it. I had to wait to see which brother you were going to say. If you said Alex, I wouldn't have got upset.

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Good. Final headline here. Yeah, hit me with the music, JD. Nike co-founder Phil Knight said Wednesday that he is not interested in buying the Portland Trailblazers who are up for sale. TK, is this news?

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Kit Kat was realistic to me. I treat myself to a Kit Kat or a Snickers from time to time, but I haven't bought a Mountain Dew since I was like, I don't know, 16. Yeah, exactly right.

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Yeah, Phil Knight wrote in a statement five years ago, when I was a younger man...

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when he was 82 uh i had a great interest in being part of the portland trailblazers franchise however at my current age again 87 i can confirm that i am no longer have interest in acquiring the team um so you know just yesterday i said oh what about phil knight buying the blazers he must have been listening to the podcast thanks for bringing me up hold on i can get the statement out real quick for skeets i ain't buying them i'm old uh is this news at all to you uh tess

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Yeah, well, I wondered if his signature was the Nike check.

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Yeah, what did I say? Just sign it? Just draw it? I don't know. I think I just cited it. I think I said that you were like, oh, that's like just do it. That's good. This was, I think the only other fascinating part of this, as we now wait to see who will be a potential buyer, is Jody Allen reportedly rebuffed Knight's offer to buy the Blazers for more than $2 billion back in 2022.

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And, you know, she said like, no, we're not doing it yet. And that's probably not enough money either. Like, that's my point here. It's like... Good job on Jody Allen and the Blazers, Paul Allen's estate, for not selling for $2 billion just a couple years ago. Because I will guarantee you it goes for more than that right now, whoever buys it.

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Probably $3, $3.5, maybe even flirting with that $4 billion. I don't know. But more than $2 billion, so way to sit on it, I guess. As it just goes up, up, up, up, up. But too old. That's it. That's all I got for you.

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Oh, I love buying a Snickers. Because, look, let's be honest, it satisfies. Okay. It does. It fills me up.

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What's your go-to chocolate bar if you buy one at the convenience store or grocery store?

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Love the troop itself. Just never is filling enough, though.

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I know, but dare I say, even that doesn't fill me up. They're so good, though. Yeah. It's just like a Snickers. Feels like a meal to me. That's right. They got the nuts in there.

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i'm a twixman a twixman i enjoy a cookie crunch yeah it is a delicious one yeah eat them both at the same time obviously at literally the same time oh both whoa walrus style yeah he's never heard of that all right have you ever had the twix ice cream i saw that i have not yeah either way do you uh do you have ice cream trucks like come into your neighborhood

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Play the song, man. Play the song, man. Turn it up. You think ice cream tastes better when you're hearing the song? Absolutely, yes. I agree. Good question, yeah. All right, we got one game on tonight. That's it. The Thunder can close out the Nuggets in Denver. 8.30 Eastern start. That's good for the boys who play basketball on Thursday nights. At 7, we're going to be done.

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We're going to be wrapping up by the time this game starts. Any predictions tonight, though? Do you think this goes Game 7, baby, or can OKC win on the road here?

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in game i feel like he ran out of gas in the fourth quarter so we'll see we'll see what happens and michael poor jr i think the splits are pretty glaring at home and on the road in the postseason in terms of scoring and shooting stuff like that so you know back at home maybe he has a game where he's hitting those threes they need we said it after that game five it's like somebody's got to help out yokich one of these release valves has to hit these open threes

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Jamal, he had that stretch where he just couldn't hit one, and then all these other guys, they couldn't hit the rim half the time. Westbrook, Michael Porter Jr., maybe Watson can bang a couple home. I will counter you guys, though. I will say OKC closes it out in six tonight. Feeling pretty good, I think, in the confidence there with SGA getting a little unlocked. But we'll find out.

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Hopefully we get more basketball. We'll talk about it tomorrow, 10 a.m. Eastern, here in the Classic Factory. It's the Drop Podcast. We'll do some rapid fire. We'll talk a little bit about Giannis landing spots.

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No, I am not talking Toronto. Golden State? Yeah, look, we'll get into some Giannis. sweepstakes I guess if you want to call it that on tomorrow's drop podcast if you're a survivor fan join us later today at 1 p.m. Eastern over on no buffs we go live on YouTube get slipped into a podcast that again is around 1 p.m.

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Eastern Nora will join us here in the classic factory to break down the pen ultimate episode of survivor 48 hey We had a move happen. So we have something to actually talk about. We'll get into it later today. Otherwise, we'll see you tomorrow. Until then, Clipper Bros. You heard it here first. Have a great time. Turn up. Love you guys. Awesome.

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Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks podcast presented by Amazon Prime. It's Thursday, May 15th, 2025. I'm J.E. Skeets here in the Classic Factory, and alongside me, as always, Tess Mellis. Basketball lovers. This one's for you. Next to him. It's the bearded one, my top shot hot boy, Trey Kirby. Ayo. Ayo. And over yonder, making the magic happen, super producer, JD. Hello.

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In the clincher, 29 points, eight boards, five assists, shooting 13 of 18, Julius Randle. And just, like, been amazing the entire postseason. I thought it was one thing to do it against the Lakers, who sort of lack a lot of bigs, and you're like, okay, yeah, you should take advantage of that.

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But to do it against Draymond Green, one of the best defenders we've seen over the last 20 years, I mean, especially after game one, he sort of owned him. And, like, really neutralized him. I mean, not even neutralized, just, like, that was the advantage. It was tick in the box, Randall ahead of Draymond Green. He has scored 20-plus points in eight of the Wolves' ten postseason games.

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And this is a guy, like, there are, like, bits out there. Mike Zakarian, shout out to our guy, like, the joke was he's regular season Randall. It's like, he only puts up points in the regular season. Yeah, he'll make a couple all-NBA teams, but it's just regular season-based. Once the playoffs come around, he disappears. Not right now. And again, I just keep going.

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Is this guy going to be the difference maker between a potential, potential finals bound or championship Wolves team? It feels like his impact right now, the energy, the constant like 20 and 10 and then the assist, like it's awesome right now. And they just like, they just got to keep playing. Nothing. Don't change anything.

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I think they want OKC to win tonight. I think that would start on Sunday, that third, or the Western Conference Finals, if OKC wraps it up tonight. But yeah, keep this good times going. Happy Randall is the best right now.

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yeah and let's uh let's see that clip jd i think you have it because i saw trey tweet this morning curry couldn't believe randall went west side story on him because he was doing the answer what a great crazy great production work going to curry's reaction of him shaking his head and that sort of felt it i know there's a lot of basketball still to be played in that game sort of felt like the game wrapped up right there when they went on that big run at the end of the first half and then obviously put them to bed in five

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Wolves Eliminate Warriors, Luke Kornet Forever & Hawks Eye Masai Ujiri?

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No, I think it was our third quarter. You know, obviously you come out of the second half. Always got to see the start of a second half. And then, yeah, they didn't really have it.

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Wolves Eliminate Warriors, Luke Kornet Forever & Hawks Eye Masai Ujiri?

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I think Reggie on one of the games the other night, I forgot to bring it up, he had a cool line of a team down, let's say 10 to 15 points at the half. He said, we always wanted to come out and make them call the first time out. I like that. That's some good insight from Reggie. That's sort of a cool way to approach it, obviously.

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Wolves Eliminate Warriors, Luke Kornet Forever & Hawks Eye Masai Ujiri?

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Come into the locker room, have a good first couple of minutes where they panic and they say they've got to call the timeout. But from what I can remember, that was not the case here in Game 5 last night. Minnesota was just as good to start the second half.

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Wolves Eliminate Warriors, Luke Kornet Forever & Hawks Eye Masai Ujiri?

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There he is. Here we are. Hello to everybody on YouTube. Hit the like button, subscribe, podcast listeners, five-star ratings and reviews. That'd be great. We'll play a little Is This News on today's pod. Yes. Got some headlines for you guys, but... Yeah, the boys! Let's go! Favorite segment here in the Classic Factory.

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Wolves Eliminate Warriors, Luke Kornet Forever & Hawks Eye Masai Ujiri?

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Look, give him credit. He was like the one Warriors guy who wasn't afraid to shoot, attack, score. I mean, a lot of guys. It's sort of wild when you think about it. And I know Curry not playing changes the entire calculation of this team. But Curry played 13 guys, right? In a do-or-die elimination game. That's just... And six of these guys should not be playing postseason minutes.

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Wolves Eliminate Warriors, Luke Kornet Forever & Hawks Eye Masai Ujiri?

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six seven maybe more like it's a lot of guys that are like yeah okay they should be like garbage time guys sure you want them on your team i get it they're there for practice and stuff but not not in a do or die game but he's just kept searching like he's starting tjd and and then what he plays like seven minutes yeah he's like he starts him pulls him right out starts him in the second half pulls him right out going to everybody i guess moody gave him a little stretch there that was nice but he was generally bad throughout the entire series like so many guys like they had their moments coming of the best of them

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Wolves Eliminate Warriors, Luke Kornet Forever & Hawks Eye Masai Ujiri?

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But we had some basketball games last night, and we had the Wolves eliminating the Warriors in a rowdy Game 5 environment, advancing to their second straight Western Conference Finals. That's pretty damn impressive in that loaded West. Six Minnesota players scored in double figures, so everybody getting in on the fun. No curry in Game 5.

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Wolves Eliminate Warriors, Luke Kornet Forever & Hawks Eye Masai Ujiri?

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But Kuminga, Looney, and Gary Payton II all headed for free agency. It'll be interesting to see what they do, what they can do. You're going to hear a whole lot of Giannis to the Warriors trade rumors. I don't know how that's going to happen.

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Wolves Eliminate Warriors, Luke Kornet Forever & Hawks Eye Masai Ujiri?

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That has to mean, basically, that Butler or Draymond Green is included in that sort of deal because they just don't have contracts, really, to sort of make it work without including them. So the Bucs are not going to want one of those guys. I can't imagine. So that means they've got to be rerouted to a third team with the talent and the picks coming back. Could it happen?

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Wolves Eliminate Warriors, Luke Kornet Forever & Hawks Eye Masai Ujiri?

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I guess anything's possible in this crazy NBA, but I just don't see them having literally the players and the salaries to make it work. Kaminga, of course, would be the piece going to, but... You just got to get to a lot of money with Giannis. And it's not going to be Curry, so it's got to be Butler or Draymond Green.

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Wolves Eliminate Warriors, Luke Kornet Forever & Hawks Eye Masai Ujiri?

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It's like that was the one. You got the great Jimmy Butler performance. You were in the game. You couldn't close it out and give yourself a chance to get Curry back once they lost that.

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Wolves Eliminate Warriors, Luke Kornet Forever & Hawks Eye Masai Ujiri?

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felt tough but it's a weird team to assess right because they make the butler move they become the best defense in the league for those couple months they're 23 and 7 when curry and butler are playing together they beat the second seeded rockets now it took seven but that's a really good team and curry was special jimmy had his moments and then then he gets injured in game one and it's like i guess what i'm getting at is like do you just sort of like do you run back the old core

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Wolves Eliminate Warriors, Luke Kornet Forever & Hawks Eye Masai Ujiri?

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because you liked what you saw for a couple months, despite flaming out in the end and playoff Jimmy looking not at all like playoff Jimmy. Now that's like maybe broken ass Jimmy, because he's probably in a lot of pain. Jimmy butthurts. Jimmy butthurts, that's right. Do you do that, though? Curry 37, Jimmy 36, Draymond 35? They're old, getting older.

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Wolves Eliminate Warriors, Luke Kornet Forever & Hawks Eye Masai Ujiri?

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They haven't figured out a way to turn back time yet. Right. Or do you make a drastic move in trying to move like a Jimmy or a Draymond, I guess?

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Das ist vielleicht einer der größten Spieler jemals, wenn du es auf diese Trajectorie weiterfährst.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Diese Geräusche wurden größer und größer. Was machst du, Mann? Du bist der größte Typ da draußen und du hast nur drei Tore. Das hat ihn nicht beeinflusst, wie er gesagt hat. Es war nicht so, oh Gott, das Geräusch kommt zu ihm. Oh, ich sollte besser meinen Arsch auf den Block nehmen und einfach, weißt du, Skyhook oder was auch immer, dinken und reinwerfen.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Start over? No, we do it live. We got the balls to do it live. Sometimes we have mistakes, but it is Thursday. Trust me on that one. No TK this morning. The Bearded One will join us on tomorrow's Drop Podcast after that quick trip to the Bay Area. We do have another wedgie, though. That's similar to yesterday's show. Another one, they keep coming. Wedgie number 8, Tass. And it was Trey Murphy III.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Er ist so, nein, schau mal, ich werde nur weiter schießen und dann werde ich einfach anfangen, sie zu schießen. Also, du hast recht. Ich meine, er hat das, er hat diese Selbstvertrauen zu ihm. Sein tolles Spiel kam am selben Tag, als die Spurs beurteilt haben, dass Coach Greg Popovich einen milden Schmerz hatte. Vor diesem Monat. Gute Neuheit ist, er ist erwartet, eine volle Rückkehr zu machen.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Das passiert sozusagen am selben Tag und Yeah, the Spurs are 6-6. Now, last night's game was a high-scoring affair. But they are like the 10th ranked defense in the league. Defensive ranking. So, you know, it's solid. I assume it will continue to improve, too, here with Wemby. But he's just such a difference maker on that end.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Because we've known about him for a long time.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Those are giant ass dudes. So it's not as far to them. It really isn't when you're that size and have that strength, I guess.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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It's like just dropping it in the bucket.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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We're watching a different game. Ich habe ihn noch nie persönlich gesehen. Ja, wir haben ihn im ersten Sommer-League-Spiel gesehen, als es schlecht war. Oh, ja, ich habe gesagt, dass ich den Boden verlassen musste.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Ja, also als wir ihn gesehen haben, kam er aus dem Tunnel und er hat sich literally an seinen Kopf geschlagen. Ja, du hast recht, wir haben ihn gesehen, das war der größte Unterschied.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Remember that security guard that had a big problem with me? Why did I get zeroed out there? Es war das erste Wemby-Spiel bei Summer League. Das Gebäude war voll mit Gills. Jeder Medienmitglied war da. Und wir waren alle bei Summer League, also die Regeln sind fast weg. Wir waren alle auf der Seite. Alle, ich meine, tausende von uns. Hundert von uns.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Sticking one in OKC. Maybe one of the only positives so far from the Pelican season.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Und er war so, hey, ihr könnt nicht hier stehen. Und ich war so, warum spricht er nur zu mir? Das war seltsam.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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LeBron basically gave it to him. I don't see it going away anytime soon.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Das ist mir, das ist mir, das ist mir. Das ist mir, das ist mir, das ist mir.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Yeah, it's positive because we wouldn't be talking about them otherwise. So yes. Mit der Saison und mit der Art, wie alle verletzt sind, denke ich, dass es so ist. Wir sind also bis zu acht Wettbewerber.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Gute Sachen da. Okay, 11 Spiele gestern Abend. Nur die beiden von uns hier. Ich dachte, es wäre lustig, wenn wir ein bisschen Drafting gemacht hätten, wenn es um die besten Spiele oder Performances kamen. Von diesem beschäftigten NBA-Schloss. Lass uns drei Runden pro Spiel machen. So we'll get to six sort of total performances.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Challenging sort of from behind. Like hit his sort of head and maybe his body a little bit. Kobe tried to like flail the one leg too.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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But yeah, he got any step to the line, hit all three.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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I thought Breen was about to say bang. I thought for a second you would hear him almost say a little B. It was almost going to go in. I thought it was in. He thought it was in. I think the whole building thought it was in. But yeah, the thing rattled out.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

1651.203

He'd have to retire, I think. His career would be over. Just the shame.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

1693.755

Es war ein Spaßspiel, dass es zu der dritten Schiedsrichtung in unserem Draft hier war. Es war einfach schockierend.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Ich glaube, ich habe das gesagt. Wir hatten drei 45-Punkte-Games gestern Abend, was die Rekorde für die meisten in einem Tag in der NBA-Historie betrifft. Das ist oft passiert. Sieben andere Instanzen. But the last time it happened also involved Karl-Anthony Towns. Back in March 2022, Towns went for 60, Trae Young at 46 and Curry at 47. With each of them scoring obviously over 45 points.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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So that happened last night with Giannis, Wemby and Kat. Who had the 46.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Zach Levine looks like an All-Star. We might be talking about some early looks at All-Stars next podcast on tomorrow's show. If Jordan Poole had only hit a three, that would have been our fourth guy with 45 plus points. Because he finished with 42. Completely overlooked. With everything else going on. Alright, I have the fourth pick in the draft.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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And I am taking the Cavaliers, holding off the 76ers, who were missing, you know, all three of their star guys. But the Cavaliers became the sixth team ever to start a season 13-0. The streak continues. You know, these games are getting closer and closer here, but they keep pulling it out. And last night, the reason really was Donovan Mitchell. He was... Amazing down the stretch.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

179.946

Oh, you're already drafting fourth and fifth rounds here.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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He scored 11 of his 23 points in the final 3 minutes of this game. Hitting tough jumpers, corner 3s off a really nice Karis Levert pass. That 1-3 in the corner. Driving to the rim. But that sexiest 4th quarter bucket was the one where he had Jared McCain on skates. He just put on the brakes. McCain went flying. And he nailed the 3. That was huge. Mitchell also grabbed 13 boards. He had 9 assists.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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The only thing Mitchell did wrong, I don't know if you caught this. Er versuchte den Triple-Double. Es war ein sehr knappes Spiel. Es war spät in der Viertelfinale. Er brauchte einen Assistenten für seinen ersten Triple-Double. Er hat keinen. Das hat mich überrascht. Er hat einen wunderschönen Spin-Move in der Lane gemacht. Er war am Rimm.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Okay, but let's start with the number one pick. You get it. Where are you going? Because, man, there are a lot to pick from.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Anstatt den weit öffnenden Layup zu nehmen, der den Cavs einen 9-Punkte-Lead geben würde. Sie hatten noch etwas Platz, aber es war noch Zeit. Er machte einen seltsamen Pass zu Mobley. Und Mobley war nicht bereit. Er sagte, warum legst du es nicht rein? Und er sagte, er wollte den Triple-Double. Er hat nach dem Spiel verabschiedet. Donovan Mitchell sagte, Cavs-Fans, es tut mir leid.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Ich hätte das Spiel früher weggelegt. That was a selfish moment. I ain't gonna lie. I haven't had a triple-double in my career. Almost lost the game doing that. Don't be so hard on yourself. I don't know if you're gonna lose the game. That's a selfish move though. It won't happen again. I apologize and I apologize to my teammates. I'm sorry, y'all. And there was more talk about it too.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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He's like, it's a teaching moment for kids out there. It's like, let the game come to you. Don't chase things like this. You'll get them when they happen. Yeah, it was really weird. Das war das Einzige, was er falsch gemacht hat. Er hat einen weit öffnen Lauf und versucht, einen Triple-Double zu bekommen.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Ich meine, Daryl Morey hat es ziemlich gut gemacht, wenn es um kleine kräftige Gegner in der Draft geht. Wo hast du Maxi bekommen? Er hat Maxi bei 21 bekommen, glaube ich. Das war in den 20ern. Maxi ist, wenn du das Draft wieder machst, er ist wahrscheinlich Top 3 im 2020-Draft, zumindest, wahrscheinlich Top 2. Und dann, um Jared McCain hier zu finden, 16, hast du gesagt? Ja. Ja.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Also, gute Arbeit da von Maury, wenn es um das Draft geht. Er ist gut. Diese kleinen, lichternden Jungs, die den Boxscore füllen können. Ja, es war ein guter Spiel. Wir haben uns gefragt, ob er anfangen würde, erinnert du dich? Ich denke, der Nurse muss ihn in die Startlinie bringen. Er hat Lowry auch in der Linie gehalten, aber es war gut, McCain zu sehen, ein gutes Spiel zu haben.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Und ja, sie haben einen Kampf gemacht. Sie verletzen Embiid, Paul George und Maxi. Ja. Ja, ich werde schnell in der oberen Konferenz bleiben, weil die Magic die Pacers gewonnen hat.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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How many good games has he honestly had this season?

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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It is nice to see, like you said, Fran stepping up here offensively for a team that really needs it.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

2210.089

Despite his three balls sort of like leaving him again. Remember he started the season solid this year? I remember talking about it on the show. I think Franz was like three of six, three of six, four of ten. It was like, okay, that's a good percentage. And then it sort of completely left him again. But he's scoring other ways.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

2225.937

And he is averaging over his last five games, Franz is, 28 points per game, about six assists, six boards, shooting 46% from the floor. Again, you'd like to see the three-point percentage a little higher. It's sub 30 over those five games, but... He is just enough offensively when you have one of the best defenses in the league to get some of these victories. It's nice to see him.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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I recently looked that up, because again, we're talking All-Stars tomorrow show. It's like, where does Franz fall in the mix? Especially with Paolo. Likely not going to make it, maybe. If you were picking him right now, of course. He's in the mix, I think.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

2313.732

Okay, ich habe die letzte Wahl hier, wenn es darum geht, die besten Spiele oder Präferenzen von gestern zu draften. Viel zu wählen. Ja. Ehrlich gesagt, viel zu wählen. Gib mir Jalen Green in 21, als die Rockets die Clippers 111-103 gewonnen haben. Weil hier ist der Grund. Ich möchte etwas spezifisch darüber sprechen.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

2328.943

Zuerst einmal, die Rockets haben einen großen Rund gebraucht, Ende der dritten Quartier, Ende der vierten Quartier, haben einen großen Leak gebaut. Sie waren etwa 19. Das sollte einer von diesen Spielen gewesen sein, wo sie etwa 15-20 gewonnen haben. But the Clippers came back. They chipped, chipped, chipped away. And it was down to like a four-point game with like 90 seconds remaining.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

2346.224

So it was like up in the air. But Alperen Schengen, big dunk, followed by a monster block. And that sort of sealed the deal. Got them the W. So they got there. But the reason I wanted to bring up the Rockets and why I'm drafting them here, because of their bench. And specifically the two studs in Tari Eason and Amin Thompson. These guys are a boost off the Rockets bench.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

2369.527

It is fun to watch, both of them. Eason has scored in double figures in five straight games. Thompson has done so in three of the last four. And man, when they come in... The game just levels up. Because these guys are energetic, deflections, playing defense. Obviously they're high flyers, both of them. And it's one thing to have one of these guys come in and inject life into a game.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

2393.584

To put them both in, that Yudoka gets to do, and then sometimes close with them out there, that's a good problem to have when you have so much talent on this Rockets team. And I think he's... Sie haben einen der besten Defensoren. Das ist der Grund, warum sie die meisten Spiele gewinnen. Aber dann kommen diese Jungs rein und spielen eine Rolle in dem.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

2411.841

Ich wollte nur Eason und Amin Thompson ein bisschen lieben. Sie sind lustig. Sie verdienen es.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

2442.736

Ja, Thunder Magic Rockets sind die besten Defenses momentan.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

2489.674

Why the Rockets probably are kicking themselves a little bit. Maybe we should have put them away. Especially when we were playing like the second unit. Some of these third string guys. But Ty Lue just giving them a chance. And yeah, it was a game. It was a game. But they took care of business. They are just... Have you seen the clips of Amin Thompson going around on Twitter of like the speed of...

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Oh nein, ich bin froh, dass ich das gesehen habe.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

2600.35

Ja, auch wenn es ein Team ist, das gut ist oder sollte gut sein in den Minnesota Timberwolves. Ja, sie wollen aus Portland raus. Ich mag es nicht da. Es war großartig, dass Sharp ein Monster-Spiel hatte. Weil, du weißt, es wurde letztes Jahr überwacht, einige seiner Performances, weil er auf einem schrecklichen Blazers-Team war. Ich verstehe das.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

2615.054

Es gab nicht viele Leute, die darüber gesprochen haben. Aber er hatte ein paar Monster-Spiele. Dann wurde er verletzt. Aber diese 33 Punkte, du siehst auch einige von seinen Böcken. Ich würde nicht sagen, er hat nicht auf Rudi gejagt, aber Rudi hat eine Geschäftsentscheidung gemacht. Ich denke, er hat einen riesigen Rückzug gemacht, Sharp hat einen riesigen Rückzug gemacht.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

2632.479

Er ist, ich meine, Amin Thompson, schnell, Shaden Sharp, hoppt, dieser Kerl leapt. Er muss einfach in den Dunk Contest gehen. Bitte, bitte, Sharp, geh in den Dunk Contest. Er ist der perfekte Athlet für die Dunkelkonzesse. Er ist der perfekte Athlet für die Dunkelkonzesse. Er ist der perfekte Athlet für die Dunkelkonzesse. There is no Durant, of course, no Beal.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

2681.927

That might be a good thing. Blazers might be better without a DeAndre Ayton and Simons out there and play these other guys. It's possible. That Kings game, though, I just want to share this. Someone named Matt slid into my DMs last night.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

2700.293

Bro, make sure you guys talk about the cowbell kid playing for the school band during the halftime show of tonight's Kings game. Okay. I was like, Jesus. I literally wrote back, LOL, what? Well, I found it. I don't have it here for one, because it's honestly, I'm a little confused why it's so amazing. But there is a kid during the halftime show. It's on Reddit, in the Kiggs subreddit.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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I get it, the cowbell, they love that in Sacramento. And this kid's got some flair. He's got some Will Ferrell flair to him. But that's it. From what I could tell, that was all that was going on. He was just playing the cowbell in the high school band. But the crowd seemed to be loving it. And they had him on camera, so maybe that was it.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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It's very possible. It's very possible. Could be. Seemed like a youngish kid to maybe have his own Instagram account, but I don't know. I don't know how young these kids get on IG.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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They really do. So congrats to the Cowbell Kid and Matt for getting us to talk about it on the show. Alright, that's all the games. Anything you want to touch on on the other ones?

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Ich gehe durch den Rolodex von welchem Kind das sein könnte.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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I don't know. We got one of the nicest comment sections in the YouTube game, I think.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

2879.056

I was gonna say, Snap would have been massive. It probably still is, but for your kids' era.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

2913.103

Alright, so let's get to tonight's pickup task. I know the game because there's only one on.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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I guess the whole part of this is, we're not playing back-to-backs for those cup games. We got a lot of teams playing their first cup game.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

2931.589

Basically everybody else that didn't play on Tuesday are playing their first cup game on Friday night. So it's like, what are you gonna do?

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

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Ja, es ist wie... The Mavs have lost three straight games by one possession. I guess really good teams. Are they gonna just be pissed off? And now you get a bit of an easier team in Utah that's had some blowout losses at home. That's ultimately my thinking. It's like they're angry. But you never know. Backdoor covers happen too. It could be like they're up 16 late.

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Giannis, Wemby, Towns Combine For Record-Breaking Scoring Night

2990.93

You pull all your main guys and then like, you know, I don't know. Some 14th man on the Jazz hits three threes and like they cover. That could happen.

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Nein, nein. Ich denke, wir können einen dummen ersten Blick auf die All-Star-Rosters nehmen. Denn ich denke, es wird ein lustiges Übergang sein, um zu sehen, wer es letztes Jahr gemacht hat, wer die Locken in beiden Konferenzen sind, um es wieder zu machen, und wie viele Eröffnungen es gibt und wer im Rennen ist.

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Or if there are other locks that you think, oh yeah, like Karl-Anthony Towns, now he was an All-Star last year in the West, he's gonna be one in the East. His numbers are unbelievable.

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Yeah. So we can go through that exercise. I think it'll be fun. We'll do that with TK. And yeah, if this game's entertaining, we'll talk about it. Worst of the Week, you got some noms?

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I wanna know... And you know what? Tell me tomorrow. I'll find out live with everybody else, but... The way they're going to play Bronny James in the G League.

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Okay, he's not going to be traveling with the team. Staying in LA with dad. Okay.

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We'll talk about that then on tomorrow's Drop Podcast. And a whole lot more rapid fire fun and all that good stuff. Hit the like button, subscribe, leave us a five star rating and review wherever you download and listen to this classic. Appreciate you joining us here today. We'll see you tomorrow for the Drop. If you're a Survivor fan, we'll see you later today.

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Nor will be here in studio with me and JD talking about episode 9. Lots to break down. We'll be talking about the Canadian Genevieve a whole lot in today's No Buffs episode. So go check out No Buffs. It's on YouTube feed, it's on podcast feed. That's later today at 1pm Eastern. Otherwise we'll see you tomorrow here in the Classic Factory. Clipper Bros.

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Ja. Nun, dieser Genevieve ist aus Winnipeg. Aus Winnipeg.

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Schaut euch Todd McCullough an. Der Pinball-Wizard. Er ist aus Winnipeg, glaube ich. Ich weiß nicht.

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That boy was nervous at the line. He was. Ron Holland, the rookie. Literally, the guy was shaking. He's a young, young rookie and a chance to win the game after a really well-designed play again. Yeah, instead of Duren like it was for the winning, or I guess tying in that situation, Alioub in the game prior. It was Ron Holland this time. Giannis didn't think he fouled him.

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Didn't think there was enough contact. Yeah. Ich habe das auch mit Janusz verstanden. Es sah so aus, als ob die Pistons noch ein anderes Spiel gewonnen hätten. Obviously, Spohr hat ihnen geholfen, die Zeit auszuhalten. Er hatte das Spiel vorher nicht. Und dann war das Foul, und ich dachte, äh, wirklich?

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Er konnte den Schuss nicht treffen. Das war ein sehr schwieriger Schluss. Aber die Basketballgötter, die Ball nicht lügen, kamen wirklich durch. Ja. Those free throws weren't even close. No, they weren't. They were not close.

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It's got some Sam Cassell vibes to it. Yeah, the big balls.

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Well, yeah, he's sort of, I mean, he almost mashed together three celebrations. If you see, he is doing like the three point with his fingers. Sort of, right?

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Dann macht er, wie du gesagt hast, Eis in den Beinen. Und dann ist es ein bisschen, hey, schau mal, mein riesiger Dong hängt zwischen meinen Beinen, wie Sam Cassell.

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Ich habe gesagt, Dong für Jan. Er wird, glaube ich, für diesen Teil gewonnen.

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Tim Hardaway und Ivey und Fontecchio waren auch nicht da. Die Pistons machen das immer noch. Sie bauen Leads. Sie kommen auf viele Teams in dieser Saison. Vor allem in den ersten Halbzeiten. Und sie fangen oft an, die Rope zu verlassen. Sie sind ein junges Team, das verstehe ich. Ich würde gerne sehen, dass Cade in den vierten Quartier ein bisschen konsistenter ist.

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Er hat dieses Jahr nicht so gut in Klutz-Situationen gespielt, wenn es um den Ball geht. Ich bin ein bisschen schlapp mit ihm. Aber man, ja, es sah so aus, als ob sie einen anderen gewinnen würden mit dem Foul-Call von Giannis. Auf dem Out-of-Bounds-Spiel am Rimm. Aber armer Ron Holland konnte nicht einen Freethrow treffen. Und dann, ja. Yannis hat sie selbst im Overtime ausgespielt.

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Es war so, als ob wir es bekommen hätten. Was denkst du von Beef Stew? Isaiah Stewart wird ausgespielt, weil er Yannis von hinten mit dem Jersey Grab ausgespielt hat.

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Nicht wirklich ein Basketballspiel, wo du gewonnen hast. Und dann, ich werde nur deinen Schuh runterziehen und ihn zurück auf den Boden rippen. Er ist ein starker Typ. Also ja, ich denke, das war garantiert.

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Statitude said that Giannis has scored at least 20 points while shooting 50% from the field in every game this season. The only other player in NBA history to start a season with 11 such games in a row is Karl Malone. Way back in 89-90. I guess Karl Malone got that streak up to 13 games and then it was snapped. Ich sehe nicht Yannis. Ich weiß nicht.

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Das ist ziemlich einfach für ihn an diesem Punkt. 20 Punkte und 50% Schuss.

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Ja, wir sind da. Wir sind da. Okay, also Yannis' 59-Punkte-Performance ist Nummer eins. Das ist ein guter Pick. Ich habe den zweiten Pick. Überall... Let's stick with the theme of the 50 Burgers. I will take Victor Weminyama scoring a career-high 50 points, including a career-best 8 three-pointers in the 139-130 win over the Wizards.

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So, Wemby did a whole bunch of things last night that were either firsts or putting his name on short lists. The big one is, Wemby became the fourth youngest player ever to score 50 points in a game. Brandon Jennings, who was at that Bucks game? Oh yeah. He was throwing out t-shirts. So was L.A. Knight. He was in the t-shirt canon.

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But I saw Brandon Jennings for a second during that Bucks-Pistons game. So Brandon Jennings, the youngest to ever score 50 in a game. LeBron James. Who's still playing and putting up triple doubles? And Devin Booker. And then now Wemby. All those guys, you know, 20 years old, but those guys I listed before, you know, fewer days on the planet than Wemby.

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But man, what a start for Wemby in this game. He assisted or scored on four consecutive field goals over the first like 70 seconds of the game. Spurs built a lead. Er hat alle 50 Punkte in wenigen Minuten gespielt, als er auf dem Boden war. Er hat quasi Clay's Rekord gespielt. Clay hat etwa 25-26 Minuten gespielt, um 50 zu bekommen. Wemby war genau da.

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26-27, als er den Jumper in der Viertelfinale hatte. Aber 18-29 von den Spieltaschen, sechs Tore, drei Blocks. Und die 8 3-Pointers. Dieser Typ ist gerade auf einem. Ja, er ist extrem heiß. Was lustig ist, weil vor weniger als einer Woche, da hat sich ein Witz aufgebaut, was macht dieser Typ? Er hat zu viele 3s. Weiß er nicht, dass er 7-4 hat? Warum schießt er nur 3s und klankt sie?

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Good morning, sweet world! And welcome to the No Dunks Podcast on the Athletic Network. Deja vu for some of you on YouTube. It's Thursday, November 14th, 2024. I'm J.E. Skeets here in the Classic Factory and alongside me, as always, Tass Mellis. Podcast listeners, this is for you. Over yonder, making the magic happen.

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Er schießt 23% von 3s im Saison. Als alle in den Medien, uns included, haben wir uns gefragt, was geht da los? Lass uns ein bisschen auf den Block gehen. Seitdem ist er 20 für 37 von drei in diesen drei straight Spielen hier. Es ist ein beeindruckender Streit. Ich weiß nicht wirklich, was es noch zu sagen gibt. Ich weiß, du spielst die Wizards.

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Vielleicht war er ein bisschen aufgeregt, seine Freundschaften dort in Saar und Koulibaly zu spielen. Aber was für ein Show. Und das wird einfach sein. Du fängst einfach an zu sagen, wie viele 50-Punkte-Spiele Wemby in seiner Karriere hat.

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Oh, it was easy to run a kill when he was shooting 23% from three.

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Es ist interessant, dass du diese Balance-Idee mitgebracht hast. Zilla hat heute Morgen in seinem Newsletter geschrieben, Guten Morgen, es ist Fußball, Quote, Niemand will, dass der größte Mann in der Liga von 25 Füßen die Brücke aufschneidet. Aber ihr müsst alle eure Medizin nehmen und es lieben, weil es hier ein Plan gibt.

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Und dieser Plan ist, Wembenyama, der unabhängigste Spieler auf allen Planeten, zu machen. Und um das zu sein, muss er eine legitime Threat von außen in einer Liga, die weiter in diese Richtung geht, sein. Und er hat noch viel mehr darüber zu sagen, aber ich stoppe es dort. Das ist wahrscheinlich fair in heute's Game.

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Und ich starte, weißt du, interessant an einer Nacht, wo Giannis für 59 und dann Wemby für 50 geht. Das ist eine glärende Unterschiede zwischen jungen Giannis, als er in die Liga kam, auch wenn er begonnen hat, MVP-Giannis zu werden.

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Er hatte nicht den Drei-Ball. Du kannst immer noch argumentieren, dass er nicht den Drei-Ball hat.

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Super producer, probably a little drugged up right now on cold and flu medicine, J.D.

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Bulk up and gain the weight that Giannis did do in the NBA. But when you got the three ball and you have the confidence to let it fly. I mean, 16 attempts last night. That's no joke. But when you hit 50% of them, you're going to take that anyway. That's the greatest shooter in the world at that point. So I just thought it was an interesting point from Ziller. Maybe this is part of the plan.

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There will be some stretches where, yeah. Er schießt wahrscheinlich. Und du denkst dir, okay, das ist nicht schön, man. Geh rein, du bist 7-4. Aber wenn du es konstant schießt und es mit seiner Möglichkeit, den Ball auf den Boden zu legen, mit seiner Möglichkeit, zu arbeiten, mit seiner Möglichkeit, zu spielen, zu machen, das ist gefährlich.

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I didn't feel it watching the TV. Could you feel it?

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He's got to hit these. Got to hit them with some consistency for sure from three. And then he's got to play in there because he's like their only real rim protector. So yeah, he's important. That one like... Du wirst es nie wissen. Das war schrecklich. Ja, du konntest von ihm einige ruhige Spiele sehen in den Finals, aber vielleicht nicht.

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Guten Morgen, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast presented by Amazon Prime. It's Thursday, June 5th, 2025. Happy NBA Finals Day. I'm J.E. Skeets here in the Classic Factory and alongside me, as always, Tass Mellis.

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Ich denke, wir werden das wieder sehen. Ich denke nicht, dass er die Spiele starten wird, bis die Dinge wirklich aus der Hand kommen. Aber wird er mit diesem Art von Substitution-Pattern weitergehen? Ja. Weil OKC wird manchmal klein werden. Er hat in der Tat zwei der größeren Spiele gestartet, während der Postseason. Er hat Game 7 in der zweiten Halbzeit gestartet.

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Er hat einen tollen Job gemacht, auf Jokic zu matchen. Und dann hat er OKC in Minnesota in der zweiten Halbzeit gewonnen, als er in der zweiten Halbzeit startete. Das hat den commanding 3-1-Lead gemacht. Also... Ich nehme Caruso. Er wird ein Teil davon spielen. Er versucht natürlich, den anderen zu schalten. Er hat sich gut gemacht. Er hat dir ein paar Punkte gegeben.

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But that's like by choice too, right? And will Carlisle like lean into that again and be like, he ain't doing that again. And like sort of leave him and have Dort try and beat you. Jetzt ist die Sache, er kann, er hat es vorher. Und du hast andere Möglichkeiten, wenn du dich verletzt hast. Es ist so, okay, er hat es nicht. Wir lieben ihn defensiv. Luke kann auch zwei kurze Fouls holen. Oh ja.

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Einfach. Wenn, wiederum, die Stimme so gespielt wird. Hey, du bist zu physisch. Du spielst wie ein Linebacker. Aber er ist wichtig. Du hast recht. Er wird diese Schüsse bekommen. Das ist mein Punkt.

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Wow. And over yonder, making the magic happen, super producer J.D. It comes out today.

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Alright, so I have the ninth pick here. This is now it starts to get really interesting. So you can go a number of ways. I'm like going to flip a coin here between the two Pacers guys in Neesmith and Nemhard.

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Oh man, that'd be great. Cause I mean, well, it's a loony. Okay, well, it was gonna be a loony, I have to take Nemhard then. Alright. I'll take Andrew Nemhard, even though these guys are both important. Everybody has them as like the X-Factors for the Pacers to make this competitive series.

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They gotta hit the corner threes, they obviously gotta stay out of foul trouble, try and play smart and contain SGA when they are. Like, you say, maybe the game plan is let SGA go get his and take away everyone else. I agree, but also like... Ich habe sie nicht mit dem Freethrow-Line verabschiedet, weil dann die Thunder-Defense das Setup erlaubt und sie ein bisschen mehr Rest bekommen.

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Es sind einfach einfache Punkte. Ich meine, SGA ist im Grunde automatisch auf dem Freethrow-Line. Also müssen sie nur wirklich klug, physisch spielen. Sie werden sie, ich erinnere mich, sowohl im Vordergrund als auch im Vordergrund holen. Diese Jungs, wenn sie auf ihnen sind, versuchen sie einfach nur, sie zu funktionieren. Sie können einfach nicht die dummen Fouls holen.

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Aber ich nehme Andrew Nemhardt, der zwischen den beiden flippt.

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Ja, sie spielen einfach so anders als diese Jungs. Die Art, wie sie sich bewegen. Genau. Nicht nur, wie sie sich bewegen, aber auch die Art, wie sie sich bewegen. Ja. Es ist komplett anders.

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Also, das lässt dich mit Neesmith, unless du irgendwo anders gehst.

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Here I come. Awesome. Well, hello to everybody joining us on YouTube. Hit the like button and subscribe. Podcast listeners, five-star ratings and reviews. As you guys know, Trey and Esch are in OKC cranking out the content.

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Ja, ja. All right. To the eleventh pick here. I'm torn between two thunder guys. Do I go big or do I go small? You know, I'm obviously contemplating Hartenstein, who is going to start, or Cason Wallace coming off the bench. And I will go Wallace. I will take Wallace. You know, we've seen reduced minutes for Hartenstein. Ich denke, dass Hartenstein das Potenzial hat.

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Er könnte auf der Bühne dominieren. Mitchell Robinson hat in der letzten Runde auf dem Offensivglas gekackt. Hartenstein könnte diese Rolle spielen. Aber dann wiederum. Dang, wir können nur 5-5 spielen. Und wir haben auch Chet, also sind wir nicht in dieser Gefahr. All das gesagt, ich gehe Kaysen Wallace. Weil er spielen wird. Er muss Haliburton slowen.

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Oder vielleicht sogar, wenn er auf Andrew Nembhardt gespielt hat und so weiter. Also ich nehme ihn. Wunderbarer Stat hier von Kevin Pelton, der Maschine. Nun, er hat es von Genius IQ-Tracking bekommen, aber das ist wild. Wenn Kaysen Wallace den Spieler aufs Spiel bringt, Thunder-Opponenten haben 92,6 Offensive Ratings gemessen, wie bei einem 108,3 mit jedem anderen Oklahoma City Defender.

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Nur das Konzept von Kaysen Wallace, den 90-Foot-Druck auf den Gegner zu bringen, oder wer es bringt, hilft der Thunder-Defense. Und er ist so ein Instrumental-Roll, auf dem Ball zu spielen. Druck auf den Ball und dann ist er natürlich ein bisschen wie ein Hock, der sich umschlägt. Ich gehe Kaysen Wallace, der 11.

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The Boys posted like four or five shorts from NBA Media Day yesterday. A lot of fun ones. So make sure you go check those out if you haven't already. They're on YouTube. They're on Instagram. They're on X slash Twitter. And they're on TikTok. Yes, we are on TikTok.

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Du hast recht, er ist ein Typ, der in diesem Postseason, und er spielt in jedem Spiel, er spielt 5-3-3. Das sind sehr leise Boxscores, aber er hat so mehr Einfluss, wenn es um das Winnen von OKC geht.

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Ich denke, du wirst ihn in der Serie sehen. Ja, ich denke, sie könnten klein gehen. Besonders, wenn Foul Trouble auf einen dieser Jungs in Doord oder Caruso fällt. Er wird mehr Möglichkeiten bekommen. Okay, du hast den zwölften Pick.

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iHeartRadio. Is that still a thing? You don't hear iHeartRadio anymore.

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It must be still a thing, right? I mean, I forgot SiriusXM was a thing until yesterday. Stephen A. Smith's got two more shows coming. Great. This guy does a million shows. Yeah, it's incredible. How does he do this? For two hours. It's like unbelievable. He's got two more shows announced. Anyway, iHeartRadio, is it a thing? Let me know.

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Das ist großartig, gut für sie. Okay, ich habe die 13. Wahl. Oh, ich weiß nicht, wo ich hier hin muss. Ich weiß nicht, wo ich hin muss. Ich schaue auf einen Pacers-Spieler. Und ich nehme Obi Toppin. War ich zu früh auf Obi Toppin? Ich glaube nicht. Wird er auf der Bühne sein? Ich glaube nicht. Nein?

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Yeah, like use their pressure against them. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, and again, if this turns into like running gun and we're playing quicker, faster guys, then there's a role for him and less of a role for a Thomas Bryant or a Tony Bradley. You know, could we see Toppin and Siakam at times being like the five out there? I think so, if Turner's on the bench, so... We'll be topping.

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Let's see some cool oops. You think we'll get him going through the legs on the fast break?

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Yeah, it'd have to be a blowout situation. Oh no, that won't happen. Be ballsy as hell. Yeah, probably not. Pacers would have to be up like 20, big steal at half, top and razzle dazzle through the legs. He would do it then, I think.

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It's not. I don't know why. We used to be good at it. I know. We used to have some that pop off. Now we can get not a lot. I don't know what's going on.

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Well, but there's been games where they've been blown out. That's true. There's like a handful, right? They got crushed by the Nuggets in one game.

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Hey, eine meiner vier Vorschläge war, dass wir ein T.J. McConnell-Podium-Spiel bekommen werden. Er wird eine wirklich große Halbzeit oder Spiel in dieser Serie haben. Also mag ich den Pick.

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Okay. Ich bin zwischen Wiggins oder Matherin. Ich gehe mit Benedikt Matherin. I'm gonna take him. He's streaky. This is the thing with him. He's a very streaky scorer. He can get your team, help get your team into free throw bonus. You know, he puts a lot of pressure on the rim. That guy attacks, attacks, attacks. And he can get to the free throw line. He's strong as hell.

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Wir haben gute Spiele gesehen. Er hat 20 Punkte in der Viertelfinale. Dann hat er 23 Punkte in der Viertelfinale gegen die Knicks. Aber er hat 15 Punkte in den anderen Spielen. Welche Mathematik kriegst du hier? Aber ich denke, dass er irgendwann, besonders, wenn... They're down 2-0 or maybe they are getting waxed. Rick Carlisle will not be afraid to get creative and try something new.

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So maybe there's an opportunity there. So I'll take Benedict Mathren at 15th overall in our draft. We might as well take this to 20. Hey, why not? Let's do it. We're moving with some pace here.

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So we got a couple Williams, we got a Joe and that's probably about it.

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Okay, it doesn't matter. The guys, the content is gold. It's there. So, you know. Schaut es euch an und drückt das Like-Button hier in diesem Video, um eure Liebe an die Jungs zu senden.

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I mean, we say new haircut, but this is his haircut.

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Das ist das Lustige. Er hat in den ersten zwei Runden kaum gespielt. Ja. Wir haben ihn kaum gesehen. Vielleicht sahen wir ihn in Blowout-Situationen, als er da war. Aber dann war er in den Wolfen, in den Western Conference Finals. Er hat in allen fünf Spielen gespielt, glaube ich. Wow. Er hatte ein bisschen eine Rolle. Nicht groß. Er hatte keine massiven Minuten. Aber ja. Ich bin mit dir.

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Ich denke, er bekommt hier eine Möglichkeit. Du hast das Williams genommen.

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Ich muss jetzt Aaron Wiggins abnehmen. Er ist hier auf der Bühne. Nicht viel mehr zu sagen. Er kann sowas auch machen. Er gibt dir ein paar defensive Fähigkeiten und kann die drei schießen. Er und Joe sind deine drei-Punkte-Schütter. Ich nehme Aaron Wiggins, ich werde es nicht überdenken. Ein paar Finals zuvor sprachen wir über einen anderen Wiggins.

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Ja, wir haben ein paar NBA-News zu sprechen. Wir kommen zu den neuesten mit den Kevin Durant-Trade-Rumoren und den Sons haben einen neuen Trainer. Ja, ja, ja. Einen Mann, den wahrscheinlich 99% von euch nicht wissen, wie er aussieht.

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Ich spreche über Andrew, der Steph Curry mit dem vierten Titel für ihn unterstützt hat. Aber Aaron, ich versuche ihn zu gewinnen.

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Ich meine, er hat einen tollen Spiel. Er hat einen tollen Spiel. Er hat den besten Spiel seiner Postseason-Karriere. Und dann, wie du gesagt hast, noch ein paar hier. I'll take. I mean, it's Ben Shepard or Joe. Hmm. Hmm. Give me Ben Shepard. Carlisle hat in ihm viel Vertrauen gezeigt, glaube ich. Und dieser Kerl ist wie Nembhard, wo er nicht ein 3 in der regelmäßigen Saison schießen konnte.

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34 Prozent, okay, das ist ziemlich üblich. 42 Prozent in den Playoffs für Ben Shepard. Und er ist auch für die Defense da draußen. Sie mögen, wie viel er versucht hat an diesem Ende. Also gib mir Ben Shepard und seinen Mustache. Wow, stell dir vor, dass er in die Rückseite von Kenrich Williams' Kopf rannte.

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Stash on Backstache. It'd be like they were kissing in a weird way.

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It fills in the rest of his hair. Wow. It could happen. Imagine we learn it's like we keep joking, Gogo Batazi has a wig. And we learn that Ben Shepard's not a real mustache. It gets stuck right on Ken Rich Williams, the divide in his hair.

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Alright, so I got Ben Shepard as my last pick. So you got the... Your final pick is basically between Joe and Jalen Williams, I guess.

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Aber zuerst, es ist Game 1 der NBA-Finals heute Abend. Sie werden das am 8.30 Uhr am Ostern auf ABC starten. 8.30 Uhr. Wir werden entscheiden, wer das erste NBA-Wettbewerb in ihrer Franchise-Historie bekommt, weil die Pacers mehrere NBA-Titel gewonnen haben. Und OKC hat einen gewonnen, vor dem die Franchise Seattle Super Sonics war, aber das zählt nicht.

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Okay, so there it is. I guess the guy left on the board is Jalen Williams, which is pretty amazing that we're even having this conversation. All these guys we listed, Es ist nicht aus der Welt der Möglichkeit, dass sie tatsächlich spielen, natürlich, und einen Einfluss haben und ein Quartier oder eine Halbzeit oder eine große Geschichte gewinnen. Und das ist seltsam.

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Die NBA Finals, wir sind wie sieben Jungs, Top, vielleicht ein achterer Mann, aber sieben. Du schärfst die Rotation, nicht diese Teams, nicht diese Coachs, was lustig ist.

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All right, so my team was SGA, Halliburton, Chet Holmgren, Caruso, Nemhard, Kaysen Wallace, Obi Toppin, Benedict Matherin, Aaron Wiggins and Ben Shepard. And Tass went with Pascal Siakam as his first pick. Wild. J-Dub, Miles Turner, Dort, Neesmith, Hartenstein, McConnell, Kenrich Williams, Thomas Bryant and Isaiah Joe.

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Glaubst du, du hättest mehr Erfolg gehabt, wenn ich gesagt hätte, nenne jeden Spieler, der für jede Franchise gespielt hat? Weil du dachtest, du würdest zurückgehen.

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Ja, du solltest das wissen. 31 Spieler haben für beide Franchises gespielt. Aber natürlich sprechen wir von Pacers und dann von Sonic's Thunder. Die, äh, diejenigen, die von Windschirmen führen, Detlef Schrempf. Mhm. Das ist ein guter. Das ist ein guter. Er hat natürlich einige wirklich gute Jahre mit den Sonics und, äh, und mit den Pacers, auch.

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Paul George, Sam Perkins, Derek McKee und dann George Hill, glaube ich, oder nicht. Er hat viel von seinem Erfolg mit den Pacers, nicht viel mit den Sonics.

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Er hat literally 14 Spiele gespielt, also warum du das nicht erinnerst. Ja. Okay, also da sind wir, ranken sie, draften sie. Und wir sind natürlich sehr gespannt auf Game 1 heute Abend. Lass uns ein bisschen darüber sprechen. Ich glaube, meine Frage ist, es kann über Game 1 spezifisch oder über die Finals im Allgemeinen sein.

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Aber was ist die größte Frage, die du denkst, die die NBA-Finals bilden wird? Wenn du einen oder zwei wählen musst, was ist dein Hauptfokus, um den Sieger zu entscheiden?

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That's Dort. I mean, if Dort's on him, Dort is like, his whole thing is like, I am on you. I am basically inside you. Like hand up on your chest. And wherever you go, I shadow. Yeah. Yeah.

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Die Sonics kommen eventuell zurück, sie werden all diese Geschichte nehmen. Sie spielen für das erste, das ist spannend, um uns in den Mut zu bringen. Wir dachten, es wäre lustig, die Top-Spieler hier in den NBA Finals von diesen beiden Teams zu draften. Wir ranken sie im Grunde, weil wir sie so draften. Nun, diese Teams gehen tief, Tess.

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Es ist wunderschön zu sehen. Es ist wunderschön zu sehen. Es ist wunderschön zu sehen. Oder zumindest nicht gekocht werden in der Turnover-Game. Possession, Possession, Possession wird hier in dieser Serie ein heißes Wort sein.

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Denn Indy, der eine starke Mannschaft von ihnen, trotz dessen, dass sie das Ball umdrehen und es unabhängig überlassen, wie du gesagt hast, tun sie das Ball nicht allzu viel, trotz dessen freien Fluss und Offense. Der dritte niedrigste Turnover-Rate in der Liga dieses Jahr. Und gegen irgendeine andere Mannschaft fühlst du dich ziemlich gut. Aber, weißt du, das ist der Wunder.

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Und sie führen die Liga in Bezug auf den Druckdruck-Rate und den Druckdruck-Prävention. Und ich sah Mike Shearer bei Basketball-Poetrie, ein guter Sub-Stack, einer meiner Favoriten. Er hatte einen tollen Punkt über diese Defense, wenn es von OKC aufkrankt. Er sagte, quote, die meisten Teams gehen auf einem Rennen mit heißem Schießen.

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1-3 wird ein weiteres, ein weiteres, und plötzlich ist es ein 9-0-Rund in 30 Sekunden. Aber die Rollenstrahlen schlagen den Gegnern mit Stealen, Blocken und Abwechslungen. Und das ist so, wie sie ihre Runden erzeugen.

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Es ist nicht offensiv, es ist dieses defensive Juggernaut, das es für einen Minuten oder zwei aufkrankt, und plötzlich ist es so, oh mein Gott, Steal, Abwechslung, und dann ist es Fastbreak points the other way. Und im Blick der Augen... Was auch immer wir es nennen, ein Thunderstorm, ein Thunderclap, ein Thunderbolt, das ist wie das kleine Avalanche, das die Spiele abgibt und es zu OKC gibt.

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Wir haben es immer wieder gesehen. Also, all diese Freerolle und Offense von Halliburton und all diesen Leuten, Siakam und Nembhardt, Ich kann nicht warten, ob sie es gegen den Thunder machen können, wenn sie alle diese Jungs haben, sie bewegen ihre Beine, ihre Arme sind hoch, sie helfen, sie drehen, sie sprechen und dann kommt noch eine Waffe von Jungs und es ist unendlich.

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Das ist für mich einfach so, dass sie nicht zerstört werden können in der Turnover-Battle, weil ich denke, OKC wird einen ziemlich guten Job mit dem Glas machen. Sort of like the Knicks did in the Pacers series, but it's the turnover part of this equation.

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Die Trainer spielen viele dieser Spieler. Ich denke, wir könnten neun, zehn Runden zurück und zurück machen. Wir können es mit dem Kopf spielen. Aber zuerst müssen wir herausfinden, wer zuerst wählt. Hier in unserem sehr wichtigen NBA Finals-Draft. Also, ich habe eine Trivia-Frage für dich. Und ich denke, wenn du die Über-Under-Linie von dieser Frage schickst, kriegst du den ersten Pick.

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I don't know what your favorite is, but yeah, there are those, the back-breaking, like game-changing defensive stance that blow open games and flip games.

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Because you have Caruso, Dort, Wallace, those are some of the leagues. Those might be like three of the top, you know, what, ten in point-of-attack defenders. Just ball hawks. Put that guy on the best offensive player and they can contain them. Then you have Caruso is also really good and so is J-Dub actually, like... off the ball defensive guys.

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They're guarding their guy, but they're actually keeping their eye and ready to jump passing lanes and stuff like that and use their size to get in there and their wingspans. And then Shea's, Shea gilt as Alexander. It's no slouch defensively, especially with his physical abilities. Not a question.

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Ich glaube, wir haben ihn in der Post-Saison nicht so oft gesehen, aber wir haben ihn schon oft gesehen in den letzten beiden Saisons, weil wir viele Thunder-Spiele gesehen haben. Er liebt es, wenn man ihn von hinten stehlt. Ich wundere, ob ihr das ein paar Mal sehen werdet, vielleicht gegen Halliburton und andere Spieler, die er gekämpft hat, wenn sie versuchen, ihn zu kaufen.

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SGA liebt es, das zu tun. Er nutzt seine Länge und versucht, ihn von hinten zu stehlen. Und dann Holmgren. Er hat 32 Blocks in 16 Spielen, in der Post-Saison. Also hat er es gut gemacht. Ansonsten müssen die Pacers reduzieren, reduzieren, reduzieren Turnovers, weil wir wissen, dass OKC laufen kann. Gibt es noch andere Qs? In Game 1 or the Finals?

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All right, well, all the talk is basically done now for the finals, which is great. Now we can actually play the games and then sort of comment on those. So game one tonight, 8.30 on ABC.

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Ich denke, du wirst okay damit sein. Also hier ist die Kugel. Halt mich mit dieser Musik, JD. Seit 2010 haben neun Spieler für beide die Thunder- und Pacers-Franchises gespielt. Seit 2010? Oh Gott. Ich denke, wenn du fünf nennen kannst, also mehr als eine Halbzeit, wenn du fünf nennen kannst, dann bekommst du die erste Wahl in unserem Draft heute.

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Okay, got some news for you here. Just bounce around a little bit. NBA Commissioner Adam Silver confirmed Wednesday during an appearance on Breakfast Ball. I had never heard of this show, but that's what he was on. Yeah, I've seen clips of that set. Yeah.

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Anyway, Silver was on this and he was talking about the 2026 All-Star Game and he basically confirmed that the type of format is going to feature American players competing against international players. Now, we sort of knew this, Silver had already alluded to this, but he's doubling down. It's like, hey, this is happening.

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Er zeigte die Zeitung des Events im Februar, die mit den Winter-Olympischen zusammenhängt, was bedeutet, dass Athleten, die ihre Länder repräsentieren, in den Headlines stehen werden. Und er sah den Erfolg der NHL, auch wenn das eine ganz andere Sache war als ein All-Star-Spiel. Aber wir geben das hier ein. Und ich denke, dass du damals ein Fan dieses Konzepts warst und ein Warum nicht?

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Yeah, that's not going to be a problem for Team America.

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Yeah, yeah. I guess that's why I won reservation with this. It's like... We're just assuming. I mean, we don't know how it's going to work, right? It could be 5-on-5 for all we know. I don't know, maybe they just pick normal All-Stars and they say, hey, best five international players and best five American players. You guys want to play a little mini-game? I don't know.

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But last year of the 26 All-Stars named, because there were some substitutions with injuries, I think only seven of them, seven or eight, were international. So it's like, we can't just go... What I don't want to happen is like, Ich will keine internationalen Spieler sein, die nicht wirklich einen All-Star-Spot verdienen. Nur weil sie international Spieler sind, um ein Team zu erfüllen.

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Besonders weil wir so viel Geld in All-Star-Ausstellungen investieren. For a legacy. Like, we do. Whether it's right or wrong, we do. Like, oh, 10-time All-Star. Oh, 15-time All-Star. Whatever. Even like 5-time All-Star. Oh, that helps his Hall of Fame chances. So we can't do that. So I'm just like, I guess I'm like, wait and see how they're going to actually do this.

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I won't get too upset, but I don't know. That part's a little odd to me.

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Es ist lustig, dass du das sagst. Ich denke, das größte Ding von Silvers Clip auf Breakfast Ball gestern, es wird von jedem überprüft, ist, wie Silvers gesagt hat, und ich quote hier, talking about the All-Star Game, is now going to be in the afternoon instead of the evening. Not enough people, I don't think, caught this. Because he sort of mumbled it.

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He sort of slipped it in while he was talking about being on NBC and having the lead-in of the Winter Olympics. And then the Winter Olympics are coming on after. So this is going to be on during the day. I don't mind that.

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Wie das. Sehr, sehr gute Sachen, das zu tun. Und vielleicht wird das... Ich habe immer über All-Star-Games und All-Star-Weekende gesprochen. Für mich sind sie für Kinder, wirklich. Mehr als für jemanden. Zumindest als ich ein Kind war, dachte ich, dass die All-Star-Games das coolste verdammte Ding der Welt waren. Jetzt ist es ein anderer Zeitpunkt. Du kannst all diese Leute immer sehen.

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Es ist nicht so, dass du die Spieler nicht siehst. Du hörst sie nur und all das. Aber... During the day? Okay. Okay.

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Straight from speed skating into the NBA All-Star Game. Yeah, I don't... And now we take you from the bobsled track over to Los Angeles.

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Okay, du bist im Grunde... Es gibt drei Allstars. Wie...

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Äh, ja, ja, ich glaube, sie sind in Italien. In Italien?

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Ich weiß nicht, ich weiß nicht, wann. Du musst dir das in die Hand nehmen, um das herauszufinden. Der Punkt ist, es wird ein paar Winterolympics geben, ob es live oder nicht, die auf NBC gezeigt werden. Dann zeigen wir dir das All-Star-Spiel. Und dann, nach dem, gehen wir mehr in die Winterolympics. Die Primetime-Version der Olympics.

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Forget basketball. Have them compete in these little mini Winter Olympic sports. There we go. Then they can all represent their own country. And we'll count them as medals in the Winter Olympics. Jokic is going to play hockey? I don't know, we're going to find out. Send them all over to Italy and have the NBA All-Stars compete in the events.

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Anthony Edwards always tells us, I'd be the best at everything. Let's find out. See how you are on the luge. He's on the team.

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He's not going to be there. We'll see what they got cooking here. It can't be worse than it was. It literally can't be worse.

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OKC und Indiana. Ja. Warum sind sie nicht so viele Allstars? Du wirst dich kicken.

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Every year you're like, it's going to happen. It's going to work. They're going to play hard.

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Ich stimme mit dir. Ich denke, sie sollten Basketball spielen.

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Ich hätte die Trivia-Frage für den ersten Pick in der NBA-Finals-Best-Players-Draft gemacht. Können Sie alle vier Teams aus dem letzten Jahrs-Tournament nennen? Das All-Star-Tournament.

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Ja, ja, ja. Es war Chuck's Global Stars versus Kenny's Young Stars versus Shaq OG's versus Candice's Rising Stars, weil sie ihren Weg innen gewonnen haben, wenn du dich erinnerst.

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Ich habe Global Stars gesagt, weil das Chuck's ganze Ding war. Ja, das war ein Ding. Weil sie den Draft gegründet haben, erinnerst du dich?

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Sie gaben uns einen Prekursor dazu, glaube ich. Anyway, moving on. The Phoenix Suns are hiring Cavaliers assistant coach Jordan Ott to be the franchise's next head coach. We had a pair of Cavs assistants, Ott and Johnny Bryant. They emerged as the finalists for Phoenix's coaching job this week and they met with the Suns' top brass in Michigan.

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On Tuesday, according to Shams, Devin Booker was involved in the search process and gave Ott his stamp of approval. So Jordan Ott, Tass, 40 years old, Been a long time assistant coach for over a decade. He's worked under Budenholzer, who he replaces in Phoenix. And he's worked under Kenny Atkinson, Jacques Vaughn, Steve Nash, Darvin Hamm.

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Any thoughts on Jordan Ott as the next head coach of the Suns? Their fourth different head coach in the last four seasons.

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And that's a different direction for the Suns. They've been generally bringing in like, hey, you've won a title. Bring in big name, Vogel. Bring in big name, Budenholzer. And this is a different direction. Does it show you that maybe they are more rebuilding? I mean, I know they're going to say they're not, but... Ich denke, ein Mann wie Ott bedeutet nicht, dass wir sofort Konkurrenten werden.

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Nein. Das ändert die Identität ein bisschen, wahrscheinlich für die Besseren. Ich denke, das ist witzig und wir werden sehen, wie er ist. Shams schrieb, dass Ott bekannt ist in der NBA als ein starker Kommunikator mit seinen Spielern und seiner Trainingsstaff. Jemand, der eine unglaubliche Menge Zeit studiert, Trends und Pathways zu verändern, basierend auf neuen Pattern.

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Now I'm thinking. Well, the Pacers for sure. Both of these guys. Yes.

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Er ist ein Pattern-Mann, aber er ist auch bekannt als ein Grinder. Ja. Ja, sie gehen in diese Richtung. Nun, du hast Ischbia mitgebracht. Hast du diese Berichte von PHNX gesehen? Oh, ich habe sie sicher gemacht.

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Ja, Ischbia hat offensichtlich die Sons Basketball-Operations-Team intern eingerichtet am Donnerstag, um die Verständnis zu nehmen, dass sie nicht genug tun, um eine Kultur und eine Identität in Phoenix zu erstellen. Der Sons-Händler hat bestätigt, dass er versucht hat, den typischen NBA-Händler-Playbook zu runnen, von hiring experts, signing checks and getting out of the way.

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But no one was happy with that outcome. So now, despite insisting that he is not reviewing film or designing offenses or even running the draft room, Ishbia intends to be extremely active in the decisions and management. He acknowledged his more unconventional approach as an owner is to ensure the Suns get back to the requisite level of winning that's been absent the last few years."

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Could be a big uh-oh here. He's saying, I was hands off. I'm just hiring people, hiring the experts, getting out of the way. Paying them. And it wasn't working. So I'm getting in there now a little bit more. And I'm taking control of this.

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So to this you sort of just roll your eyes at like, oh now you're going to get involved?

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Oh, George Hill ist eine Antwort, aber nicht mit diesem Namen. Okay, du hast zwei. Du hast Paul George und George Hill. Du gehst einfach zu weit zurück. Du musst mehr in den letzten fünf oder sechs Jahren sein.

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Well, people are joking that they should be called the East Lansing Suns. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because this is now a lot of Michigan State in the top brass here. Ishbia, like you said, Gregory, and now Ott here, Jordan Ott. You know Jordan Ott is married to a woman also named Jordan?

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Well, you brought up the Suns trying to maybe go younger. Will they? They want their picks back. Let's pivot to the latest with Durant, because according to a Tuesday report from the Athletics' Kelly Eco, the Suns are being aggressive in their efforts to trade veteran star Kevin Durant, which have involved several calls to the Houston Rockets since the end of the season.

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Eco also wrote that the Suns have gradually lowered Sie fragen den 36-jährigen All-Star-Preis, seit mögliche Verträge begonnen haben. Wir haben auch viele Berichte gesehen. Ich glaube, Shams hatte sie. Ich glaube, andere hatten sie auch. Es gibt vier bis sechs Wettbewerber, die sich in Duranthus offensichtlich interessieren.

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Ich habe gestern getweetet, okay, die Rockets, die sind interessiert, ich denke, besonders die Suns wollen ihre Picks zurück, also das ist eine große Teil der Equation. Die Spurs sehen sich interessiert und es gibt einige, die wissen, dass KD vielleicht von San Antonio spielen würde.

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Ich denke, die Timberwolves sind ein Team, das noch interessiert ist, um potenziell versuchen zu machen, KD mit Ant zu pairen. Und dann ist es so, was sind diese anderen Teams? Was sind diese anderen 1-3 Teams? Ich glaube, die Leute sagen die Knicks. People say, I guess the Mavericks were at one point. I don't think they are.

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People said the Heat are always interested. I guess the Warriors were interested at the trade deadline when they go against Butler.

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You think it's either going to be Rockets, Spurs or Wolves? I don't know about the Wolves.

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Ja, aber dieser eine Typ war ein All-Star in der Western-Konferenz. Er bleibt in einer All-Star-Kontention.

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Die Spurs, du hast recht, sie haben viele Picks. Ich glaube, Devin Vassell ist der wichtige Teil da. Ich meine, Harrison Barnes, um das Geld zu machen. Aber Eco hat bemerkt, dass Phoenix aggressiv ist, um den vollen Kontrollen ihres Draftkapitals zu regieren. Okay. Die Rockets sind die Mannschaft, die alle Draftkapital hat, oder zumindest einige. Sie haben die Suns 2025 und 2027 erste Runde.

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Und sie haben das Recht, 2029 zu swappen. Und dann haben die Wizards ein paar Rechte, in 2026 und 2030 mit Phoenix zu swappen. Ich meine, sie haben einfach nichts. Und sie würden gerne ihre eigene zurückbekommen. Und ich denke, das ist eine wichtige Sache. Wir sprechen immer darüber, oh ja, krieg all diese Trades, oder ehrlich gesagt, krieg all diese Draftpicks.

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But if they're not yours and they're other teams, it's like now you're banking on those teams of course being bad and then obviously hitting it in the lottery and getting lucky. But if they're yours, you have more obviously control over the direction and maybe the promise of those picks.

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Now I know obviously the draft lottery changes that to some extent, but still, I think they really would love their own draft capital back. And that's why the Rockets can play hardball here to some extent. They can just be like...

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Das ist der Grund, warum ich denke, dass es sich darum handelt, sie zu verringern, was sie für Durant nehmen würden, wenn sie wirklich aggressiv zu den Rockets sprechen würden. Und die Rockets wären wahrscheinlich nur wütend, wenn sie diesen jungen Spieler ausdrücken würden und dann vielleicht nicht so wenig Pick. Wenn sie ihre eigenen Picks so schlecht zurück wollen, auch mit diesem Nr.

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10-Pick dieses Jahr, dann können sie das nicht machen. Ich weiß nicht, ob er auf Houston oder San Antonio endet. Es ist die NBA, es gibt immer eine Wildcard-Team, die aus dem Nichts kommt.

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Ich werde die Nummer 1 wählen. Ich suchte für DeMontis Savonis.

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Sie haben den Swap in 29, ja. Und dann haben sie den 27, ja.

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And then I thought you were going to get Victor Oladipo as well. Of course, Vic. Two all-star games. I thought you were going to get Paul George, Sabonis Oladipo, bang, bang, bang.

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The final piece from Kelly's article that caught me by surprise maybe a little bit. Houston is expected to bring back Fred VanVleet, according to both the team and league sources, by either picking up his $44.9 million team option for the 25-26 season or negotiating a new deal at a lower but team-friendly salary. So...

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Das bedeutet nicht, dass Van Vliet hypothetisch gewechselt werden könnte, besonders wenn du ein großes Spiel hantest. Vielleicht sprechen wir von Giannis an diesem Punkt, aber es klingt so, als ob sie ihn wirklich da wollen und vielleicht renegotiieren und einen längeren Deal bekommen, aber einen mehr teamfreundlichen.

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All right, we'll call it there. Getting you all ready for Game 1 of the NBA Finals tonight. Trey and Esch are going to have an immediate reaction pod, hopefully from the floor of OKC, so later tonight. So keep your eye on that, both on YouTube and in your podcast feed. And then we're back here tomorrow from the Classic Factory to obviously break down Game 1 in detail.

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talk about some other NBA news. There's always trade rumors right now and really get into it. Maybe have some rapid fire fun. It is the drop. Why not? So we'll do that, but those guys tonight. So again, subscribe, share the show, five star ratings and reviews. Thanks for joining us today.

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It was a fun one and we will see you either tonight, the guys from OKC or tomorrow here in the Classic Factory. Until then, Clipper Bros.

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And then, I might as well give you the rest of the list. You did get George Hill. You backdoored into that one. Jeremy Lamb. He actually played a lot for both of the franchises.

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Isaiah Hardenstein sagte, er war ein großer Fan von No Dunk Slash The Starters. Er sagte TK direkt zu seinem Gesicht. Er wurde begeistert. Er sagte, ich habe dich immer gesehen. Als ich jünger war, sagte er.

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Ich bin ein alter Mann jetzt. Wir können uns nicht erwarten, die Jungs von heute in OKC zu sehen. Und genießt Game 1. Wir sehen uns morgen.

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He had a game-winning shot. For the Raps or against the Raps? Against the Raps, yeah. But he played for both. Yeah, Doug McDermott. Jetzt wird es ein bisschen schwieriger. Moses Brown.

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Und dann Tony Bradley. Moses Brown. Tony Bradley. Einen Kaffee da. Oh, ich hätte das nicht gedacht. Das war sehr schwierig.

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Alright, so I got the number one pick. We're drafting the best players from the NBA Finals. Okay, this is a great pick to have. Yeah, you got it. Yeah, I'll take the Canadian. I'll take Shea Gilgis Alexander. No brainer. Excited to see if Indiana can even slow this guy down. He had two monster games against him in the regular season. In einem Spiel gab es keinen Aaron Neesmith.

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Das war der, wo er für 45 Punkte ging. Aber der andere war genauso großartig. Ich glaube, er ging für 33 und 8 in 31 Minuten in dem Spiel. Das war ein Blowout. Das war ein Blowout. Ich würde sagen, dass er die Playoffs etwas langsam begonnen hat. Der Schuss ist nicht gefallen, aber er hat es aufgeführt und die Zahlen sind unreal. Also habe ich ihn mit dem Nummer 1-Pick. Okay, toll.

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Und eine Turnover in den zwei Spielen. Und über 20 Reisen zur Freethrow-Line. Let's be honest, it could be a story after tonight or in this finals. If he continues to put the pressure on Neesmith, on Nemhardt, and it's a whistle in these, depending on the officials, there could be a lot of free throws. Because he's damn good and they're tough to obviously try and contain him. So SGA, number one.

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Ich denke, das sind die besten noch. Ja, genau. Weil er hatte diese Butter-Töne.

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Nein, es ist. Ich denke, sie haben den neuen Colorway jeden Rund der Playoffs verlassen. So Converse was just like, yeah, they're probably going to the finals. Just get ready to drop them every week and a half.

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Ich hasse den Pick nicht. Er ist auf dem Heater aus den Eastern Conference Finals, wo er den MVP gewonnen hat. Und wie du gesagt hast, er hat 32-8-5 in dem Spiel gewonnen, in den 2019 Finals. Er ist der einzige Mitglied der Indiana-Rotation, der NBA Finals Erfahrung hat. Und nicht nur hat er das gute Spiel gewonnen, er hat ein tolles Spiel gegen die Warriors in 2019 beendet.

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Er hat 26-10 gewonnen, um diese Serie zu beenden. Er war großartig, er war wirklich gut. Ich meine, Kawhi, du erinnerst dich an Kawhi, weil das der einzige Grund ist, warum sie das ganze Ding gewonnen haben. Aber Hat Siakam da als Nr. 2 und du nimmst ihn Nr. 2, aber das lässt Tyrese Halliburton für mich. Ja. Also danke dir sehr.

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Ich nehme die zwei Pointguards hier. Stacked, wir sind stacked. Stacked, ja, wir sind wirklich gut in der Pointguard-Position. Ich glaube, Halliburton kommt auf dem Tisch auf meinem Team. Nein, das ist großartig, aber er ist großartig. Er ist instrumental in den Chancen der Pacers, diesen Upset auszupassen, richtig? Es ist so, Halliburton kann nicht mediocre sein. Um sie zu gewinnen. 4-7.

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Er muss besonders sein in vielen dieser Spiele, denke ich. Und es wird interessant werden, ob er die Ballkontrolle behalten kann. Er schließt es nie über für einen Mann, der ihn natürlich umschlägt und attackiert und den Handel hat. Aber Mann, er spielt hier die Thunder-Defense.

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Ich nehme Halliburton und er muss ein paar Momente haben, wo er das Klatsch-Gene auslöst und ein paar verrückte Schüsse schießt, weil die Spiele nahe sind und das vielleicht den Pacers eine Chance gibt, hier ein paar Gewinne zu holen. SGA, Siakam, Halliburton, du hast den vierten Pick overall, wo gehst du hin?

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And he's gotten better as the postseason has gone on. Conference finals was great. He averaged 22.2 points per game, shot nearly 50% from the floor, and was really good from three in that series. 12-26 overall for J-Dub against the Wolves in the five-game series. Es war fair zu wundern, was mit J-Dub und Chat zu tun hat.

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Du hast Chet gebracht. Ich nehme 5. Chet Holmgren hier. Der junge Kerl. Er... Schau. Das ist sehr einfach. Aber ich glaube, wenn Chet Holmgren wirklich gut spielt, sind die Thunder fast unbequem. Wenn er eingeladen wird und er schießt... Ich habe ihn vor der Post-Saison früher ausgesprochen. Ich dachte, ich weiß nicht, der Junge sieht mir ein bisschen furchtbar aus.

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Er schießt es einfach zu einfach. Er sieht ein bisschen Angst vor dem Moment. Das ist weg. Ich meine, wiederum, als er hier mehr Reps bekommen hat in diesen großen, hohen Druckspielen, die in der Nuggets-Serie begonnen haben, Entschuldigung.

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I didn't even think about it in the Wolves series, he was very aggressive, obviously a difference maker on both ends, and again, you know he's going to help defensively, but if he can keep up his offensive production, I mean the Pacers are in trouble if he does, so I'll take Chet Holmgren here, 5th overall.

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Anyway. Alright, I got Chet. Would you have taken Chet 5? Yeah, that's a good question. When looking at the rest of the board, or no? I mean, you have the 6th pick, so who would you have taken?

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Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast presented by Amazon Prime. It's Sunday, May 25th, 2025. I'm J.E. Skeets, here in the yard, solo dolo like I'm Kid Cudi. Though that's not actually true because I'm here with the stream team. Hello to everybody on YouTube. Love to see you here on a Sunday morning, early on a Sunday morning.

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I mean, if Brunson had not grabbed a handful of Neesmith jersey, that thing was going out of bounds. I don't think Aaron Neesmith was getting to it. It was a bad pass. That would have been Nick's ball. Down one. Obviously in a half court set there with whatever it was. But instead, Neesmith drills two free throws. He makes it a three-point game. And then Brunson, now he has to.

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Now he sort of has to look for the three-pointer that he's got to sort of force up. I think he was worried about them wrapping him up, playing the Fallon game. And so he was like, he saw it, he had a little opening, but he clanked that deep three that would have tied the game up. So again, he was awesome though. Awesome.

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Like they're not even in this thing if Brunson isn't in those shots that he was. Just the footwork. Reggie was going nuts, rightfully so, about look at the footwork from this guy. As he just kept, you know, obviously... And then it was cool because then they had to start playing him for all those sort of like crazy fadeaway jumpers that he hits.

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And then he could get them on a pump fake and go up and under. He did that a couple times. So, great game from him. But the Pacers are just too much. They're just too goddamn much. I think it was WorldwideWob who does a great job. Obviously, he loves his Knicks. He jumps online and always does his little recap game.

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He compared the Pacers-Knicks series, and specifically Indiana, to like a boxing match, and how they are the type of fighter the Pacers are that, you know, they don't ever go for the knockout. So it's just rack up points from the scoreboard, on the scorecard, excuse me. It's just jabs here, set up here, a couple body shots here, but nothing crazy.

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Never going for the huge uppercut, never going for the huge hook. Just rack up points, rack up points, rack up points from the scorecard. And to the point where then you get into the later rounds and it's like the opposition, the Knicks in this case, they're like, their corner's telling them, hey man, we're down. We're down here in this match.

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We got to go for the haymaker here or we're not going to win because there's only a couple rounds left. Man, I thought that was good because it's how they play. Just the waves of guys, how they continue to run at you. And so far they've had the Knicks sort of playing their type of game here.

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but fun fun game fun series huge huge win and we have seen the pacers find the knicks weaknesses over and over and continually attacking them i thought a couple of them that jumped out to me uh siakam in this game anytime josh hart's on him good night he's just he is too big he's too quick and that's been a problem i thought he's had his way with him

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Obviously, Jalen Brunson and Karl-Anthony Towns on defense. We all expected it. We all wondered how they were going to deal with it. And when they are both out there, it is very difficult for the Knicks to get a stop. Because Carlisle and the Pacers wisely just get them both into action. And...

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I mean, you can maybe live with the one of them, but when both are involved in it, it's tough, tough, tough, tough. And then even Mitchell Robinson, his piss-poor foul shooting, I thought Carlisle picked the perfect time to employ the hack of Mitch. He's picking his spots with it, and it deflates the crowd and takes them out of their rhythm that they maybe had going.

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So he's just pushing all the right buttons. Rick Carlisle's coaching his ass off right now, especially in comparison to Tibbs and some of the decisions he's making. But... Big talking point from this game is what will they do in game three? Will the Knicks start Mitchell Robinson? Because, you know, in the fourth quarter, we saw a lot of cat on the bench.

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And look, the starting lineup, if you watched our preview for this series, that was one of my talking points. It's like, can the Knicks starting lineup just keep up with the Pacers? Because the Knicks starting lineup has been sort of bad for a long time now, haven't even been great in the postseason, and the Pacers are amazing. And they haven't been able to.

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They've been outplayed the entire series from these starters. And in the fourth quarter of game two, Tibbs decided, you know, make that change. Towns did leave with like nine minutes to go. He didn't come back till 225 when the Knicks were now going for the haymaker, right? Now it's like, we got to win here in the final round. You got to knock his head off.

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I decided just to go live 10 minutes before I scheduled the start time. Help a podcaster out. Smash the like button. Subscribe, share the show, all that good stuff. Comment away. And podcast listeners, hello, hello, hello to you as well. Happy Sunday to you and the fam. If you haven't already, leave your boy a five-star rating and review. How's everybody doing? Who do we got here?

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So they're scrambling to come back because it had been a double digit deficit. So, you know, it's your old NBA guy not playing. Seven key minutes down the stretch. Tough. Tough, but you get it because you saw what Mitchell Robinson was bringing defensively. And this is this weird tradeoff here. So we'll see. I don't think Tibbs will start Mitchell Robinson, but... Maybe he should.

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It's very possible that he should. He's getting minutes. He's seeing the floor. He's contributing. Again, just like Game 1, Mitchell Robinson, the box score is not going to wow you, but if you watch the game, oh my god, how many times does he just give the Knicks sort of another chance at scoring because... He's fighting like two or three pacers under the boards and gets tipped out off of them.

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Only because he's been fighting for it. Otherwise, they grab it. So he's been a beast on the offensive glass. And obviously, you know, trying to stay with these fast pacers players as well. And he's better. He's just been way better than Cat, who has to like gear up to start running, as we've talked about before. Shu had a crazy stat.

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about that idea of the Knicks not being able to keep up with them. Through two games, the Pacers have scored 126.6 points per 100 possessions, which would be the second best mark for any team in the conference finals or finals in the 29 years we have play-by-play data. They just cannot stop them right now.

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And they are going to need to figure that out in Indianapolis tonight and slow this team, or this one's going to be over in a hurry. One thing for the Knicks, going for them. They've been good on the road, just like Indiana was. Pacers have won six straight on the road in the playoffs. They're now two away from the NBA Finals. First time they'd be there in 25 years.

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But the Knicks have also been a very good road team. That was something else we talked about heading into this series with our preview. I actually nailed a couple of these talking points. I don't know. I don't know what to expect here tonight. I'm not sure. If you saw our bed podcasts after they blew the 14-point lead in 170 seconds in Game 1, I didn't think they were winning in overtime.

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And after they lost, I don't think they're winning the series. And I had the Knicks in seven. But I'm also not dumb enough to let go. That's a wasted opportunity, and this team is too good. And... I just don't, I don't see the Knicks winning four or five. So can they give us at least a series? Some excitement, just like the Wolves did.

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Now I know it's flipped because the Wolves were at home and you got your role players playing differently, but let's hope so. At least hope for an entertaining game. But man, Pacers are just rolling and Carlisle again. Just, like, just every guy it feels like comes in, like, contributes right now.

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You know, and he's actually taking guys out of the rotation that he's, like, maybe lost some trust in or are struggling. Like, Mathren reduced minutes. I think even Thomas Bryant. Hell, we saw Tony Bradley playing in this game for the Pacers. But going to Shepard, obviously McConnell, good game too. They're clicking. They are clicking.

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And even in a game where Halliburton didn't have to do a whole bunch. I thought he hit some big shots. But for the most part, it was a pretty quiet game. So we will see. That is tonight. I'll leave you there. We'll make it a quickie. Like I said, 20, 25 minutes. A few other notes before we go. Gotta give a shout-out to my godson, Andreas.

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He hit his first out-of-the-park home run yesterday, people. Bomb! Dead center. He's 10 years old.

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went yard pretty proud moment obviously for his dad my buddy Grish your buddy Grish our buddy Grish and his fam and for me as well just crushing it so cool something I never did I played a lot of baseball we just now I will say we played on like way bigger fields you see these kids now these parks are incredible they're like cool like sort of quote unquote miniature versions of giant ballparks but man still went deep

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Should we do a roll call? Oh, we got Nick saying, where's the bed? That's funny you say that. I used to have a bed in this room. The old guest room that we turned into a gym slash solo podcast studio slash tiny little basketball court. Yeah, no bed here. We're back to normal. Even on Friday, we were back in the classic factory. So we are here for a quick one today. Talk about last night's game.

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Awesome moment. Awesome moment. So that was cool. Shout out to Andreas. And then, like I said, I slipped it in there. Tomorrow, Memorial Day here in the U.S. But the No Dunks Boys will be live from the Classic Factory to break down tonight's Game 3 in Indy. Talk about that. We'll talk about the All-NBA teams that were announced on Friday. No crazy surprises.

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I told you I thought Harden would probably get in there. Halliburton did make All-NBA third team. No Siakam. But anyway, Cade. Cade's the big winner, right? He makes All-NBA. He gets another what? What is it? Like $45 million? Not bad. Not bad. Throw that on your paycheck. So we'll get into that and, hell, maybe we'll talk about the Indy 500. Cars go vroom. But we'll call it there.

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Thanks, everybody, joining me live on YouTube here. Appreciate it. I know it's maybe a surprise for some of you. I had been doing a lot of these weekend shifts on Saturday, but I was like, you know what, let's push it to Sunday. So we'll be back tomorrow. Hit the like button, subscribe, share the show, podcast listeners, five-star ratings and reviews.

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And before we say goodbye, we go to Clipper Probe.

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Love you guys indeed. Embrace your weekend, people.

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Wolves making things interesting. And then we can look ahead a little bit. Talk a bit about Friday night's Pacers win. We got game three tonight in Indy. What a day in Indianapolis. Indy 500 goes right into a Pacers-Knicks game. Well, not right into it. They're not going to drive the cars. The winning car will not drive into the Gainbridge Fieldhouse. But you know what I mean.

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Busy day Sunday there in Indy. But let's start with last night's game, which was Saturday night. And like I said, things got a little interesting now because after two discouraging losses on the road, the Wolves ran circles around the Thunder in Game 3 last night. The Wolves led by as many as 45 points in the 143-101 victory. They have a chance to even up the series on Monday, Memorial Day.

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That's tomorrow. This was the second most lopsided loss by a number one seed in NBA playoff history. I got a few other crazy stats or by the numbers for you a little bit later when we talk about this game or when we wrap it up. But the Wolves took a 34-14 lead in the first quarter and ran away with it from there. By the third quarter, you know, it was a 42-point lead.

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And then we had OKC waving the white flag. My question for everybody in the stream team right now and all the podcast listeners is, when did you call it?

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what play or what moment of this game were you like okay that's a wrap i'm uh gonna do something else with my saturday night watch something else go out depending where you are here in the world uh let me know i think it was for me i didn't watch a lot of the fourth quarter stuck with the entire third quarter and it was like remember like ant hit a three started doing his cool celebrations and

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And then he hit another jumper where he could have passed to Rudy Gobert, who was wide open, but he was feeling it. Knocked down the jumper. I think that got him to 30, if I remember correctly. And it was like, okay, yeah, that's game. Can't see OKC coming back from this one. We've had some crazy comebacks in the postseason, but not here tonight on Saturday night.

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So that's when I sort of like tuned out. I think I kept it on for a bit, but you know, looking at the phone, doing other things. So let me know when you officially hung that one up. But man, what a great start by Minnesota, led by Anthony Edwards. if we're being honest. Like, what an awesome first quarter. 16 points in the first cue. He finished with a game-high 30. 12 of 17 shooting.

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5 of 8 from deep. I mean, you had a lot of Minnesota players find their three-point shot. Maybe it helped going home, but you had Dante DiVincenzo hitting two. You had Nas Reed. Drop your Nas Reeds in the chat. He finally hit a three. He hit two. Nikhil Alexander-Walker, I believe, also had two.

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So those guys, especially after some of the focus started to go on to Ant and they started to run a second guy on him, just made the simple play and those guys ended up hitting shots. Turns out you hit shots, you're going to help your chances to win the game. After the game, SGA said, it felt like we just eased into the game and they didn't.

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They blitzed us pretty early and then we were never able to get back because of it. End quote on SGA. A hundred percent. It felt like to me, my comparison analogy would be like OKC in game three. They were the person that took the steps into the pool. You know? Oh, oh, oh, that's cold. just slowly making their way into the pool. Minnesota, shout out to Trey Kirby, they did the cannonball.

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Straight into the deep end. That's the way to do it. Always a way to get into a pool. And they just came in like that, where OKC wanted to ease their way into the game, into the pool. And that's never as good. It's always just much more uncomfortable. So awesome stuff. Their defense was locked in.

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They definitely looked a little bit more similar to what the Nuggets and the success they had against OKC. They kept a lot of players at the boxes, at the elbows, focused on SGA. You know, Trey had mentioned they got to give him the three. And I think even McDaniels did play that. But Rudy on picks with SGA involved, I thought he was much, much higher.

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He didn't drop back as much where SGA had been cooking him with the mid-range jumper. He was out there way more, you know, playing level.

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to the screen and it worked and then they were also just daring these other guys to make shots and nobody could OKC missed 11 of their first 15 shots of this game and more shockingly I thought they turned the ball over five times in like the first six minutes and again kudos to Rudy he had two steals in that first quarter that were big and the one where I'm like uh oh this is not going to be OKC's night where he again he played less drop coverage he was up there to take away the mid-range jumper from SGA after the screen

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And he stripped Shea on the perimeter. Remember that? It was like 10 minutes into the game. And then Rudy was rumbling and stumbling the other way. I think he got fouled on the fast break opportunity. SGA got back and wrapped him up. But still, that was like, oh, okay. This is different here. When Rudy Gobert is stealing the ball on the perimeter from our MVP, we might have a different outcome.

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So nice little wrinkle, nice change. But really, when we get down to it, playing with energy, rotating quicker, obviously focusing on who they wanted to sort of limit in SGA, and it worked out. And, you know, it just snowballed from there. It was awesome to see, again, Ant to fill out his box score, nine boards, six assists, two steals. Had that pop. He had a couple, like...

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Fast break opportunities that he completely generated because he was tipping it and beating guys to the ball. He had the big dunk there early. Had another fast break where he sort of took it easier. Plus 36 in the game for Ant. Awesome stuff from your leader. And by all accounts, he was like after the two losses... Keeping spirits high. He's never all that rattled.

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We'll get him next game, especially going home. So that was cool to see. Julius Randle, big bounce back game from him after that miserable game too, which may have been his worst playoff game ever. That's saying something if you watch some of his Knicks playoff games. But Randle was great. 24 points. just in the flow of things. Hit a deep bomb as well. He was smiling after that one.

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Great, great stuff. I already mentioned the bench mob with Nas Reed and Dante hitting threes. But the other story from this game, and I saw some people in the stream team waiting for it, Terrence Shannon Jr. 15 points in 13 minutes to give the Wolves bench a huge boost. Nice call from Finch here. I guess after Game 2, him and his staff talked about it. Maybe we've got to find some minutes for him.

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This is a physical Thunder team. Let's match it. Let's get the kid in there. Let's get the rook in there. Though, we should point out, He's a rookie, but he's a grown-ass man. He's older than Anthony Edwards, Taren Shannon Jr. is. He's going to be 25 at the end of July. So he's a man. And dear Lord, the guy's like, what, 6'7", 250? Excuse me, 215, 220.

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maybe he is 250 for all I know he does look that strong but awesome energy from him and like the game was sort of they were already in control but it was nice it was nice like you obviously put him in and you're like hoping he can just sort of sustain that Wolves lead he did the opposite he built it he got to the line he hit shots brought it defensively as well and again that

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He looked like a player that you would see on the Thunder, if we're being honest. It's like, oh, yeah, that'd be a guy in the Thunder rotation. Maybe that's how you got to match it. So awesome stuff from him. I know he had the postgame interview there with Ant, and Ant talked him up, like, right away. Like, first question from Lisa Salters about whatever, bouncing back.

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And he's like, yeah, this guy. I mean, that's pretty cool. So awesome stuff from him. And I think you're going to see him again. I think you'll see him in stretches at least to, again, just sort of try and match the physicality of OKC. So a few crazy numbers from this one. Shout out to CBS Sports. They had a really great breakdown of all the crazy things from this wild outcome.

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OKC is the first team in NBA history to record a 50-point win and a 40-point loss in the same postseason. Minnesota now owns the fourth largest conference finals win in NBA history. 42 points last night. Only been a handful of other conference finals games that ended with a bigger difference. This one's fun. Shea Gildas Alexander.

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We talked about how they changed up the defense a little bit on how they played him. He had 14 points. It's his lowest scoring output in a conference finals loss. Excuse me. Is the lowest scoring output in a conference finals loss for a player who won the MVP that season since... Giannis.

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Giannis was held to 12 points by my Toronto Raptors in the 2019 Eastern Conference Finals when they did an incredible job on making the wall on Giannis with Kawhi and Serge and Siakam and Marc Gasol and that awesome defensive Raptors team. So I thought that was interesting. Again, an MVP that particular season in a conference finals to hold him to 14 points. Amazing work.

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And okay, some of these shots that SGA got, he was hitting in games one and two. Yep. But definitely more focus on him and taking away what he wanted. And there wasn't a lot of stepping into those nice, pretty little mid-range jumpers that he operates with. There wasn't a lot of looks like those. So that's it. If I got on that game, I mean, it was a blowout.

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You just now, it sort of becomes like the series becomes on Monday night, right? It's either going to be a 3-1 Thunder lead or it's going to be a 2-2 series. This is great for us NBA fans. I was starting to get a little worried that we're like, are we going to have like two? Is it potentially have two sweeps here in the conference finals on our hands or at least in five?

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Maybe we get some series here. Give us some more basketball. Because I don't think, correct me if I'm wrong in the stream team,

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um will they ever bump up the start of game one of the NBA finals when both series end super quick they generally don't right they got all these hotels booked and all this media traveling from all over the world they'd like to keep it you know whenever it is scheduled game one I don't have it off the top of my head here um

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Maybe they've bumped it up once before, a couple games, because it was such a big gap. But anyway, the point is maybe we don't have to worry about that. Maybe we've got some series here. And I can't wait to see what happens on Monday. Because maybe that'll be the most entertaining game so far of this one.

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And just a final note, I saw John Krasinski of The Athletic, one of the best beat reporters in the game, covering the Wolves. He thought it was important not only that the Wolves won that game, but... What they did and how it happened makes the series feel a little bit different because it at least brings some hope that they've unlocked a new way to attack this juggernaut that is OKC.

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68 win team, really damn good here in the postseason. Elite defense. I mean, to put up 143 on one of the best defenses we've ever seen. That's something. So we look ahead to Monday night, Memorial Day. Can't wait. Will we get a new Memorial Day miracle or something like that? Let's hope so.

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Okay, quickly on the Pacers on Friday night. I'm loving all this Pascal Siakam love. I mean, it's great. Again, as a former Raptors player, we got OG versus Siakam, but this guy... What a great game. I mean, maybe his best... Well, his career best, 39 points. 15-23 shooting for Spicy P. He would not let the Pacers be denied. He was scoring, it felt like, every bucket early in that game.

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He went 3-5 from deep. He got to the line. 6-8 there. 5 boards, 3 assists, a steal. It was his night. It's cool to see everyone giving him his flowers. Now, he didn't make All-NBA. We will comment on All-NBA teams on Monday's podcast. Yes, we're going to have a podcast from the Classic Factory with the boys, but... Fun, fun game. Score tied 81-81 going into that final frame.

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And that's when the Pacers took control early in the fourth and held off a late Knicks rally to get the victory and put them up 2-0 in the series. Man, Brunson was trying his best. He was hitting some insane shots. He scored 36. He had 11 assists. Now he had some unfortunate plays down the stretch. That involved him. Remember, the Knicks were down three, 30 seconds to go.

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Brunson dribbles the ball up the court, but I thought they just killed way too much time before he eventually found Josh Hart for a layup. But 15, 16 seconds, it all went away. Got the Hart layup, though. Okay, now it's a one-point game. But then Brunson commits the foul on the inbounds pass. Which I think was going to be a turnover.

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No. I mean, of course, it's a game now where you look back. It's like when the game starts getting out of hand, that's when you get to turn to a superstar like Tatum to be like, stop the bleeding, hit that three, hit that jumper, get to the free throw line, get us some points on the board, make them focus on you. Then you're kicking to a guy that can maybe hit a three. It's like that thing.

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It's like these are when you see these moments of like, oh, yeah, there are levels to this. 100%. Yeah, and it's like Jalen Brown, again, he did a really great job in Game 5, did a decent job in the first quarter, and then it was sort of like you could tell the Knicks were like, this is the only guy we've got to worry about tonight. Like, really? Like, you know, Derek's not hitting.

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Drew seems a bit washed right now. The bigs we ain't worried about. It's like, okay, Horford, maybe he'll hit a couple threes. We can live with that. And then a lot of the Knicks' defense was obviously leading to offense, where then something couldn't stop them either. Knicks moving on. My God, headed to the conference finals. I got a few random notes.

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We got the whole thing where they show the courtside celebrities. So you're getting the classic Ben Stillers, and Timothee Chalamet, and, you know, all your classics. And then we've got a Busta Rhymes, who I know they've showed before, but we don't see him every time when he's on the broadcast or sitting courtside, and man... The jewelry that Busta Rhymes had on. Holy crap.

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The size of this, I believe, Cuban link chain here.

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He looks like, I don't know if you were a wrestling fan at all. I share a little bit, but maybe ahead or before your time. Ted DiBiase, it looks like he's got the million dollar belt turned into a necklace. That's what it sort of looks like. So he was there and they were like going nuts, obviously. We did see the Celtics go to Hakimich pretty early, seven and a half minutes into the game.

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He missed his first one, crowd went dead silent. It was like, uh-oh, oh crap, not one of these again. Because he just went six for six in the last game, but he did have that four for 12 game. But then the second free throw, He line-drived that thing into the net. Oh, my God. I know how it goes in because it helps that he's nearly seven feet tall. You don't have to put a lot of arc on it.

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So they've been pulled. There's no risk of injury as they move forward. But yeah, the New York Knicks just pummeled the Celtics tonight. And they generally say the toughest win in the NBA is the one where you've got to end somebody's season. And I do believe that, but this one... Ended up being pretty easy for New York.

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Holy moly. I thought it went through the rim, man.

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It was a laser, but you split them, and then it's got the team going, maybe that's not the right strategy here. I don't think they ever went back to it, unless I'm forgetting. I don't think they ever hacked them again. Speaking of weird shots, Jalen Brunson, he had a good game. Again, everybody was great on the Knicks tonight. What did he finish with?

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23 points, six boards, six assists, hit a couple threes.

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perfect at the line he's a plus 30 out there um but you know somewhat quiet game but i was thinking he had a couple shots and i was thinking this in game five and i forgot to bring it up on the show uh he reminds me sometimes how he like does you know he has like a quick shot like he creates contact creates a little space like he's a smaller guy and he's got to do it and he's got the quick shot he's like a guy playing like pop a shot

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Like, at the arcade. Yeah, like, he's not really shooting it, but he's got that... He just, like, has that flick, and he's mastered it.

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Getting into the lane, and he definitely just... Yeah, it's just like... Yeah, it's like that gut... You see, like, these people that rack up these, like, super high scores. They're not, like... Okay, Brunson's an incredible basketball player, so I know that sounds silly. But those people are, I don't think, really good basketball players. I don't think.

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But they just got that little touch, little flick. And he does that when he gets inside, especially when he gets inside. Great note. We had a hilarious slow-mo replay. I don't know if you saw this. Josh Hart getting a taste of Chris Dapp's Porzingis armpit.

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Yeah, I missed that. It was earlier in the game. Oh, my God. I think a foul was called, and they had a great slow-mo shot of it, and his face is, like, up in his armpit. Like, his nose is in his armpit.

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And I'm like, he already has a cut above his eye from last game. And his eye was all bruised, and I was like, ugh, don't get that infected or something. Porzingis has got an illness as it is, man. Don't get that in your bloodstream, man. I don't know what. That was so gross.

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They played... Well, that was the one year they didn't play, I don't think.

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After a sluggish first quarter from both teams, nobody could really hit a shot. Nobody could hit a three. It was 26-20 at the end of the first quarter. But then in the second, my God, it was on for New York. There was that chase down block from Deuce McBride that turned into a Josh Hart and one on the other end. Knicks went up 20. MSG was like...

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somebody could fact check me i remember them playing i remember them playing three straight years so i think it was 93 94 95 then i think there was a few years that they didn't play and then they played again late 90s 98 99 2000 that was a conference finals then they played in 2013 it's just forgotten i think that's that's a mellow paul george yeah mellow paul george yeah and then they played last year

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Right. So a hell of a lot of matchups. And I think the big winner of this is the WWE Triple H. There you go. I'm dropping more wrestling references for everybody. But we literally have had storylines of Jalen Brunson and Tyrese Halliburton Like, you know, sort of squaring off in the squared circle. Or at least also ringside. But yeah, they were in the ring.

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There's a photo of Tyrese Halliburton with Logan Paul and Jalen Brunson with LA Knight. So, Triple H and the WWE, they got to have some fun, I'm thinking, with this Eastern Conference Finals. Like, I don't know, you got to make some cool promos or something. That'd be awesome.

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Yeah, WWE's the master of promos, so whip something together.

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I saw Mike Prado of The Athletic say this. I saw it in Slack. We got it up on the live blog too. But you're going to hear these factoids over the next 24 hours a lot. Now that we're down or we're soon to be down to the final four. We got a game seven baby on Sunday. Thunder Nuggets. This is going to be the seventh straight season that we will not have a repeat NBA champion.

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So, you know, we have maybe reached the parody era here. And it doesn't really show any signs of slowing down. But five of those seven teams that previously won lost in the second round of the playoffs the next year. We had the Raptors in 2020, Bucs in 22, Warriors in 23, Nuggets in 24, Celtics now in 25. So, yeah, the dynasty is dead. Yeah. We're going to be running back seven straight here.

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I honestly, I like both. Like I love when there's a dynasty because you're like, can they do it again? Who's going to be the team to knock them off? Oh my God. I find that fascinating. But I also love this because I like seeing like fresh blood in there, new teams, new styles. So I got no issues with it either.

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And like, I mean, like we're looking at teams here, like Indiana Pacers have never won a title. Knicks haven't won one since 73. I mean, okay. The Pacers won in the ABA, but never an NBA title. Pacers, excuse me, Knicks. Uh, 70s. That's a long-ass time ago. Before I was born, for crying out loud, and I'm old. And then the Wolves, no. And then Thunder, no. Unless you count the Sonics.

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pulsating man like that place was rocking like through your television screen you can definitely they're up big and uh yeah they got it to 27 at the half and then it got even bigger there in the third quarter and obviously it just turned into garbage time

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Which was, like, again, the 70s. And then, who am I forgetting? Okay, the Nuggets. The one team that has, like, actually won. And they might lose on Sunday, so... I love that. I don't know.

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I just think, oh, gee, people complaining about the opposite. What an incredible thing. Yeah.

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I mean, I guess I'll play the Homer card, the Canadian flag, get it waving. For Shea, like, I mean, I'm Team Shea, no doubt. Um, it would be cool for him to obviously, you know, Nash could never do that, right? Like he's going to win MVP and Nash did it twice. Incredible. Like amazing that a Canadian won it back to back, but he never could get the ring. So that would be, wow.

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Imagine he wins MVP and the ring. That's cool. Okay, Ant, that's awesome. We're off and running with Ant, like you said. And then these teams in the East, they feel like two teams of destiny to me. The way they win these games, the stretches they've gone on. I like how they play. I like how hard they both play. Yeah, I honestly feel like I can't go wrong. You can't go wrong with Ant.

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And then, of course, if the Nuggets make it, I mean, sure, yeah. That's awesome, too. Jokic would get another one. That would be amazing. Jamal would get another one. Yeah, this is good. Go ahead. Okay, here's the problem. Get ready for ratings suck, ratings suck. Now, I don't even know if that'll be the case, but we're going to have... We're looking at... remove the Knicks.

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We're looking at potentially small market teams. Very small market teams. So, you know, sure, the Knicks being there would be huge for numbers. That'd be great. But like, no, I wouldn't be upset with anybody winning at all. I like all four of these, five of these teams still remaining and they all have cool narratives. And like I said, like,

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They're looking for either their first one ever or first one in a goddamn long time, which is always cool, which is always cool for those fan bases.

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No, I don't think there is. I mean, I'm sure, yeah, people rank them in a particular order. Or, yeah, you don't like Halliburton or you don't like Shea or whatever. But I'm with you. Yeah. But, again, I think that just speaks to, like, they have never won or haven't won forever. So, like, they're almost all underdogs in a weird way. Yeah. And, yeah, it won't really matter who wins.

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Like, it'll be pretty cool. Hopefully we just get great series and competitive games. And, like, I mean, this was a stinker tonight. But we've had some awesome games. awesome playoff games through these first two rounds that are now wrapping up on Sunday. Like I I'm always like, it's, I always look at NBA playoff seasons or seasons in general.

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It's like, it's like watching a survivor season for me. It's like, I'm loving it in the moment. And then as soon as it's done, it's like, I forget half of it or 90% of it. Um, But it does feel like these first two rounds have been better than most first two rounds over the last decade. Now, I have no idea if that's actually true, but I think it is.

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Yeah, but I think there's been less blowouts than there normally actually is.

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Sometimes we get those years where it's super top-heavy, and it almost feels like a waste to have a first round. It's like, all right, all right, all right. Let's just jump ahead to the conference finals. They're definitely those years where it feels like there's four or five teams that are just way better. But look what's happened here. 61-win Boston team, gone. 64-win Cavs team, gone.

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potentially 68 win Thunder team could be out on Sunday. Right. I mean, so like, I get this parody is for real. Like these, these, that's why we're seeing all these, like, I mean, they're all like, they all feel like our 50 win teams. They're all like in this ballpark.

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I know besides OKC or like leaps and bounds better with the regular season record, but everybody else in the same ballpark, at least. So good. So good. So we do have some news actually about Sunday's game just before we go here. This sucks. Nuggets forward, Aaron Gordon has been diagnosed with a left hamstring strain. Status is in doubt for Game 7 against OKC on Sunday afternoon.

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We talked about it on today's show. You saw him do it. You saw him pull up. He grabbed it. He played for a little bit longer at the end, then they took him off. He said he was going to be fine. Adelman wasn't sure. He sort of downplayed it. We'll see. We have an extra day of rest, all of that. But then this is what Shams is reporting. Is this gamesmanship from the Nuggets at all?

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It sure looked like he pulled his hamstring or at least tweaked it.

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But I don't know. This guy, my gut says he's going to give it a go, just like Jamal Murray did being sick in game six. He still goes. So I don't know. I mean, just hopefully he's not limited to the point where he can't even move out there and then they have to pull him out because they got a shallow team, Ash. So they need Aaron Gordon.

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Yeah, that's what they're calling it, I believe.

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They need him so much. I mean, he has been a force during this postseason. Offensively, where he's averaging like 17-7, had a lot of assists in the last game, even in the... No, that was the win, of course. He had a lot of assists in game six. And then he's got the pair of game-winning shots this postseason, where he had the game-winning dunk.

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Or I guess it was sort of an alley-oop, but you know what I mean, in Game 4 against the Clippers. Then he had the three-pointer in Game 1 against the Thunder with three seconds to go. And that's great. The offense is great. I'm more worried about them defensively. He is so important. Part of their zone, obviously, is movement, is athleticism. So, like, you remove him, like...

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If he can't play or he's limited, you better get the greatest either Michael Porter Jr. game or Peyton Watson game of all time because that sort of has to fill the vacuum if AG is limited or can't play.

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Yeah. Yeah. So, like, full health of AG or not, it's going to be tough to go win in OKC there in Game 7. But, like, man, remove him from the equation and – I don't like their chances. I mean, I was already taking OKC and this, I think, you know, just sort of drives home that point. But who knows? I mean, that's what Jokic and Jamal Murray want. They're like, yeah, OK, bet against us. Bet, man.

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All we do is game sevens. That's all we do. This will be their seventh game seven. And I think I read something like, the Thunder combined their entire roster have maybe played in a total of three game sevens.

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But this will be Jamal and Jokic's seventh game seven separately. Both of them.

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They're made for game sevens. They're made for game sevens and they got a four and two record. So they're pretty good in them as well. So can't wait for Sunday. Uh, but we'll be back on Monday to talk about that one live from the classic factory. Join us at 10 a.m. Eastern. Shout out to everybody joining us on YouTube here. Uh, I got to take the blame on this one. I jinxed this.

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I tweeted like, okay, we've decided. We're going live tonight after game six. We're either going to be talking about, you know, the Knicks going to the Eastern Conference Finals or the Celtics giving us a game seven baby. And it's going to be a classic. That's what I said in my tweet. I'm talking it into existence. So I pooched this one. So this one's on me. This one's on me.

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Yeah, he fouled out with 250 to go in the third quarter. I mean, a brutal ending to a season, but... That sort of sums up the game here to the point where they just kept him out there because it was like, well, there's no point taking him out when he got his fourth, fifth foul. He's the only guy doing absolutely anything. And he slowed, of course, as the game went on.

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But congrats to the Knicks. Congrats to their fans on advancing. And we'll get into the Celtics offseason. Now that they got the Tatum injury and, my God, the money on their salary cap and all that and what they do. So we got lots of time for that. But right now we got Knicks Pacers coming up on Tuesday night. You know, we're going to be in New York on Tuesday night, my guy.

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Wow, that just hit me. We're going to be in New York. We're going for a little work thing. And that's, I think, when it starts, Tuesday night, because I think the West starts Wednesday. Wow. You think we can get in? Like, God, credentials even alone might be tough.

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I got to get on the horn with my buddy Grish right now. See what hookup he's got with MSG. Yikes, okay. Well, maybe we'll be in the house on Monday, or excuse me, Tuesday night for Madison Square Garden. But before that, we'll be here on Monday in the Classic Factory. Ash, thanks for jumping on, my man. I'm sorry your Celtics went out like that. No one wants to see that.

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Once Tatum went down, it was always going to be an uphill climb. So, yeah, it changes the entire season.

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Hit the like button, subscribe. Podcast listeners, five-star ratings and reviews. We'll see you on Monday. Enjoy that game seven, baby.

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But a good first quarter for him. He had 13 points. He was 5 of 8. He was knocking down some threes. He hit the one free throw for the team. He did have a couple turnovers that were not all that great. But the rest of the team, Esch, the Celtics in the first quarter, 7 points, 3 of 16 shooting. 1-7 from deep, no free throw attempts, and even more turnovers than Jalen Brown had himself.

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And you're right, you're still in the game, but then second quarter, it just got out of hand. And games like this, where it's an absolute ass-kicking, You only get these type of outcomes, especially in the postseason, when one team is rolling, they're clicking, they're getting great shots, they're dominating, and the other team doesn't have it.

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And so that's how you end up with these type of results, right? When you end up with a 30, 40-point win. It's like the Knicks were balling and the Celtics, holy crap, they were struggling. Because not only couldn't they hit shots, they could not create good looks, I thought. At all. At all. In the half court set, it was over.

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When they would sometimes get out and transition, it was a little bit better, but man, once the defense was locked in, and that's a testament to the Knicks defense because they were swallowing up everything at the point of attack, making rotations, just smothering shooters. There was that one play where Mitchell Robinson, I don't know if you saw that play, where like...

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He was bouncing around, like him and Hart. They were bouncing around everywhere. Mitchell Robinson closed out on Jalen Brown, and Jalen probably should have shot it right away, but he was super hesitant. He got Mitchell Robinson running at him, and that one ended in a turnover.

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Good evening, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast presented by Amazon Prime. It's Friday night, May 16th, 2025. This is The Late Shift, and I'm J.E. Skeets, jumping in the yard with my guys on the ones and twos, making the magic happen. It's Eshua Kidd. What's up, Esh?

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I don't know what else they could have done. No, Missoula started Cornette in place of Porzingis tonight in Game 6 here. I thought Cornette was a little shaky, to be honest, to start. In his first career playoff start, he... He had that bad turnover. He jumped in the air, no plan, under the basket. That was a Celtics turnover. Then he bit hard on a cat three-point attempt up top. Just a pump fake.

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He was just too antsy. A few minutes later, he got blocked by OG in semi-transition. He did some things, but you understand why you went with him, though, because KP was giving you nothing. And then KP checks in, and this game had a couple nice plays, but it was like, that's it. That's all you got. You had Drew Holiday having a brutal game.

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A bad game where you start looking at that contract going, oh my God. Because I think a lot of people thought, okay, he had a bad regular season. He struggled. He'll turn it on. He's a 16-game player. He's a playoff guy. He levels up in the postseason. He never really did. He never really did. The age is showing. Again, he's got a lot of money left on that deal. Maybe he's a guy that gets moved.

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And maybe he becomes a guy that is like the perfect... He's going to be expensive, but the perfect guy to come off somebody's bench, right? Right. And to sort of run a second unit. But anyway, that's looking ahead. And then Derek White, who was awesome in Game 5, splashing threes left and right. He just... Did not have it going. And as I see here, game over. Knicks win. Knicks win.

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They advance to the East Finals for the first time in a long time. Yeah, we'll get into Indiana-Boston. Yeah. I mean, I guess that game five was just, that was the Celtics like win one for Tatum type of game. Like that was like showing up for their crowd and putting on a show. And then Knicks obviously had some confidence going back to Madison Square Garden.

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And I just loved like, even when they were up 20, up 30, hell up 40. The Knicks were playing like they were down. Exactly. By a lot. They were the one playing like, oh my God, we got to win or we're done. They were looking at this game, it felt like game seven for them. Don't go back to Boston.

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It's rough. It was a bad game six. I mean, I'm looking at it now. White, eight points. Drew Holiday, four points. I mean, Cornette, like I said, he started. He played 21 minutes, five points. Al Horford. Al Horford was fine. I mean, he was a minus 33 out there with a lot of these starters. But he had 10 points. Okay. They got nothing. It was Jalen Brown for one quarter.

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Yeah, I was wondering if this is like work harassment in a weird way, making you jump on late on a Friday night to talk about your Celtics getting absolutely hammered here in a do or die game six.

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So it was, it was like not even a full quarter. It was Jalen Brown for eight minutes. So then it was like, that was sort of it. But I liked what I saw from cat in this game. I loved it. Cause we were talking about that. Like, okay. Cornette came in, came in, he changed game five. You're back home. You better show up, man. I mean, you're the all-star.

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You're the all-NBA big that they went and made this deal for. And he was great. His first basket, super tough. He attacked Horford, banked it in over Cornett, who came with the help. Beautiful, cool shot. That was awesome. Then he overpowered Jalen Brown inside. He scored. How many times did Cat flex in this game? He felt like he was flexing like three or four times in this game.

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Then Josh Hart started doing it every second play. So they're flexing all over them. A few minutes later, Cat grabbed an offensive rebound over Sam Hauser. It was off an OG miss in the corner. Just too big. Flipped it right back in. It hit on the rim and went in. He finally hit a three-pointer.

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off of a deuce mcbride offensive rebound you know we always love the percentage when somebody gets an offensive rebound and kicks it back out to somebody that that three-pointer goes in at a higher percentage than normally shooting a three-pointer schumann do the math but i know it's higher it just goes in more and then he had a nice play in the second quarter a nice pick and roll work with brunson and that's where like cat did the thing where he tucks the ball away

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You know, powers through guys, had the end one finish, a flex again. So he had 16 points in the first half. I just thought he met the moment here. And like you said, that guy, man. Talk about a guy that feeds off the crowd. So 21-12. Like all the starters on the Knicks. Everybody except Josh Hart, who had a triple-double, 10-11-11. Everybody else scored over 20-ish.

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So they all showed up in this game. And I really do think they wisely looked at this game as a Game 7 for them.

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I know. You imagine we get a Wolves-Knicks finals, which is of course in play. I think it's going to happen.

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That's your prediction? All right. All right. Well, look, it could happen. It might happen. And if it does, you'll be hard pressed to find a better win-win trade. Oh, yeah. Where they literally swap these guys and they both go to the finals. Now, one will ultimately be the loser in the finals, but man, if that's the case, that is nuts that it just worked out so well for both of these teams.

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It's just a great, great win. One other note I wanted to make. There was one change because Luke Cornett got the start, like I said, in this game. And in game five, he was roaming, right? He was just roaming off of Josh Hart. And that's how he got all these. But half of those blocks were like help blocks because he didn't have to worry about Hart. I thought the Knicks did a slick job.

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They countered in this game. They brought Hart higher on the floor. And at times even like ran offense through Hart in sort of a high post. And that made Cornette have to stick to him a little bit more or pull out a little bit more so he couldn't roam as much.

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So nice, you know, I thought it was like a smart coaching change by Tibbs and the Knicks staff because they probably realized like, okay, they're probably going to start Cornette in game six because, you know, he was a difference maker in game five and Porzingis is like, he can't breathe. So that was just like a little note that, you know, ultimately in this game where they kicked their ass,

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It's a small note, but it was at the start of the game that like jumped out to me. I was like, okay, they were ready for that. And I think it had a bit of an impact.

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Any other notes you got from this game? I mean, the refs were letting them play, I thought, for that first little bit. I think the whistle tightened up a little bit. But yeah, anything else on this one, on your Celtics getting embarrassed here? I know we'll have a whole offseason to talk about, like, is this the end of this iteration of the Celtics? What do they do here?

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Yeah, this is rare for No Dunks. We are actually podcasting while the game is still going on because it is an absolute beatdown in MSG. Currently about three and a half minutes to go in the fourth. And the Knicks up a comfortable 32 points. And I do believe... I'm just looking. Tibbs has finally got the starters off the floor.

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Yeah, yeah. I mean, look, I mean, you take out a guy that's like a perennial top five MVP guy, you're in trouble. I mean, I'm not saying Tatum's on Steph Curry's level. Right. But he sort of is. I mean, he's in the conversation as a top five player still in the league. And it's like, we saw what happened with that. Completely changes the...

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entire offense of your team uh with the Warriors and you know and to a lesser extent it's the same thing with Tatum right you remove him you're you're taking out like the release valve the guy that runs everything you're alpha yeah I definitely understand what you're saying especially but when you compare it like if you're talking about Steph Curry like he was their offense for the most like they could not score without Steph Curry on the floor

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Didn't even get a shot attempt in overtime. And according to ESPN research, 18 of SGA's 22 field goals attempted were contested. He was 4 of 18 in half-court sets. He was 3 of 10 when Christian Brown was the primary defender. This guy did a pretty damn good job on Harden. He did a great job along with Murray in this game against SGA.

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They just threw a lot of guys at him, and it really looked like SGA was forcing it down the stretch last night. And you wonder how this game would have gone if SGA had delegated a little bit more to J-Dub, who was cooking, and had one of his best games ever in the postseason. Obviously, SGA was passing. Like, tons.

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And he would have had way more assists if some of these guys could have hit some shots, too. But... He really was, like, confident, of course, the guy is, that he was going to be the one to close the door. And there was, like, two or three guys draped all over him. And he was, like, you know, the whistle was tight for them. And he wasn't getting to the free throw line all that much.

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I think he only had five free throw attempts in the game. So good job by Denver to, like, not bite on a lot of things, keep your hands up, move your feet. I'm just double checking. Yeah, three of five SGA at the line. So that's a win in and of itself. But... Yeah, he just forced it. I thought he was just forcing some weird shots. And this guy's like definition of cool and fluid and smooth.

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And he was the opposite down the stretch last night. So again, it was J-Dub hitting all the big shots and maybe a little bit more of him. And they pull off game three victory. But SGA walking off the court had the huge smile on his face, sort of creepy. It's like, what does this guy know? He said it was his reaction to, like, taunting from Nuggets fans.

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And, you know, again, he's a cool cucumber, this guy. And he talked about it in the postgame comments, stuff like that. So his confidence I don't think is going to waver. You know, both of these guys, Yo Kitchen, SGA, you know, you should never gamble because you'll probably just lose. But whatever their line is in terms of points or totals for points, rebounds, assists, like,

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I feel pretty good hitting the over in the next game, despite the defensive effort from both teams and trying to just take those guys away. And maybe this is going to be a series where it is the other guys that have to come through. One of the guys that did, Aaron Gordon, game time three, 28 seconds left. Did Chet just fall asleep and just lose him?

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Like took his eyes off him and Gordon wisely went to the corner. It got swung over to him. He was wide open. Holmgren obviously tried to close out, but way too late. He bangs it home because the guy can't miss. You know, just everybody go live in a basketball gym and we'll all make the NBA.

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Aaron Gordon's third game tying or go-ahead bucket in the final 30 seconds of the fourth quarter during these playoffs, including the game winning three in game one of this series. Guy's clutch right now. And it's at the point where it's like, when that got swung to him and he was wide open, it's like, that's it. Like, what are they doing? Like, this guy, he's got all the confidence in the world.

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So, Gordon, Jamal Murray, and the one-armed man, Michael Porter Jr. I thought they all rose to the occasion. They carried Joker. Michael Porter Jr., in the first half especially, was the one scoring. He finished with 21 points, 8 boards. Gordon, 22, 8, and 5. And then Murray... Jamal Murray. Playoff Murray. Playoff Jamal. 27 points, 8 assists, 4 steals. He had some beautiful plays in this game.

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20 minutes later, Nora's like, oh, I guess there was an earthquake in Tennessee. So we felt it here in Atlanta. A little wild. Haven't been in too many earthquakes. I mean, it was nothing here in Atlanta, but the house shook. It was crazy. Anyway, that was fun. Also, happy Wedgie Day to all who celebrate. Yes, May 10th is Wedgie Day. I think for two reasons.

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That jelly layup that he had in the third quarter, I think it was. A thing of beauty. He hit a jumper late in the game. I think it was a rule to two, if I remember correctly. It was close to the three-point line. He had Hartenstein on an island. And he banged that one home in the corner. And then probably the biggest play, sort of like...

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sort of sealed the win was the play in overtime where he had quick hands on J-Dub. The ball poked loose. Nuggets in transition. Jamal got it, obviously, and was gunning the other way. There were defenders back. I think Dort was back. There was another Thunder player in the mix.

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And it felt like Jamal, I know he did it, I'm exaggerating, but it felt like he switched hands like five times and then finished at Dort over the rim. And that sort of was like the one that I think sort of was the nail in the coffin at that point in the game, especially with how the Nuggets defense was locked in in overtime. So great game from those three. These are all champions, man.

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They're all champs. Like, yeah, Jokic is the man, but they don't win that title without all three of those guys contributing, you know, in different situations, in different series and stuff like that. So that trio, again, AG, MPJ, and playoff Jamal, 11-17 from three-point range. So huge stuff from them. Really, really, I thought, entertaining game. And this entire postseason is just unreal.

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I was at a friend's party last night before the first game. Or at least I got back around halftime and caught up. And these are some casual NBA fans. But man, everyone was like, how awesome are these playoffs? Like, how sick are these games? All these comebacks, huge shots, feels like every night. And a lot of talk was like, this feels wide open too.

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So there's like, you know, again, we went over this on Friday's show. It's like, could you make the case that all eight teams could win the title? I think you can make the case for sure, legitimately, that all eight teams could meet in the finals. You know what I mean? There's a path for all of them here. And I think a lot of people get a kick out of that.

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So that idea of parity, I guess, right now, at least at this stage, is great. And I'm sure we were helped out by some of the 60-win teams losing a couple games at home. I'm talking Cleveland. I'm talking Boston. You got OKC here, flirting with 70 wins. They now trail in their series, so they got to face some adversity.

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Obviously, the Wolves, the Warriors, that sort of, you can convince yourself it can go both ways. Can Curry get back in time? Does he even come back? Because Minnesota, can they take care of business? Anyway, it's awesome. The buzz is real. The casuals are locked in. And it's a great time to be a basketball fan right now. I'm very excited for Game 3 today in Madison Square Garden, Celtics-Knicks.

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I'm not probably even exaggerating. It's very expensive, whatever it is. I would be a little fearful if I was a Knicks fan dropping $2,000 on this game. I'm scared. You've got to be a little scared that this is suddenly, maybe like we saw with Cleveland last night, a bit of a beatdown. Maybe the Celtics' three-point tsunami drops. But the Knicks are scrappy, so hopefully it's a close game.

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That one's on ABC, and then we've got Wolves-Warriors, Game 3, series tied at 1-1 tonight on ABC. Nice little schedule here. Rainy day here in Atlanta. Won't be doing a whole lot, not hitting a patio or anything, so we'll be locked in for this one and then two more games on Sunday. But we'll call it there. We'll keep it quick. Appreciate you all joining me for 20 or 25 minutes.

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Oh, I was going to say one more thing. I saw this tweet from World Wide Wob because this goes back to the Denver game. And I'll just read Wob's tweet and then react to it. Did we really just come out of the commercial two seconds before that buzzer beating, sorry, buzzer beater was launched? By Jokic. Zero buildup. Zero setup. Jokic for the win? No good. We'll be right back after this.

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End quote on that tweet from Rob. Yeah, what the hell? I mean, I get it. You got to get these commercials in. They pay a lot of money for this stuff. But man, it's just sad. Guys, he's dead on here. This is a huge game three. It's been an entertaining game. We're going to have like the multi-time MVP is likely going to get the ball and have a crack at winning this thing.

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I'm fairly certain that this is the day Marcus Smart stuck the infamous wedgie number 50 back in the 2016-17 season. So we had been tracking it for a couple of years on the show. And that was the first year we finally hit 50, that magical number that we were always aiming for. And it happened, I believe, on May 10th, I think.

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And it's like we had to jam in that commercial. We come right back. We're like, oh, there it's going on. Okay, see you later. We'll be right back after the break. So bad, man. Get your commercials in earlier. What are you doing, ABC? Or ESPN, I should say. Same family. Anyway, we'll end on that weird note. Otherwise, playoffs have been awesome. Thanks for joining me. Hit the like button.

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Subscribe. Podcast listeners, five-star ratings and reviews. We just did five-star Friday yesterday, so maybe you'll get your review for our show on the next one next month. Everybody stay safe. Again, don't forget to call your mom this weekend. To all the moms out there, happy Mother's Day weekend.

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And, you know, maybe we'll see you later today or tomorrow if these other Game 3s can deliver as much as last night's. All right. Appreciate you all. Everybody. Oh, you know what? Let me hit you. Let's hit you with a clipper, bro. I wasn't ready for this. You want to see Brian Windhorst doing the fingies? There's Windhorst doing the fingies. You want to see me in a weird hat?

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There's me in a weird hat. Weird Raptors hat. That's probably good. All right, Clever Bros.

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All right, guys. You embrace the NBA playoff basketball. We'll see you soon.

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And then the second reason, which we just like shoehorned in to make it wedgie day today, is because five, the month of May, 10, the day, five times 10, 50. So there you go. Happy wedgie day. And speaking of those, we could use one. We haven't had a wedgie in like over two weeks at this point. So I think today, Saturday, May 10th would be the perfect day.

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For one, and if I want to be greedy, two wedgies, because we've got two games on today. Let's get one in each game, and that would get us to 50, because we've been stuck on 48 for a very, very long time now. So let's do it. A Madison Square Garden wedgie, and then a wedgie in the other series that I'm literally drawing a blank on right now. Oh yeah, the Wolves series. So hopefully we get that.

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Let's get into last night's games. That's enough of me rambling. And it's cool to see everybody here on a Saturday, again, in the chat. I guess we'll tackle these in order. Yeah, why not? And I'll throw this up for everybody. I am producing here behind the scenes as well. But Donovan Mitchell scoring 43. Cavs beat the Pacers 126-104. So it turned out into a blowout in the end.

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They cut the series deficit 2-1. So they still trail. The road team hot in this series. The home team can't win a game. But I thought last night... Cavs looked a lot more like the Eastern Conference's top team for a majority of that game. And I'll get into the guys coming back, but I think you still got to start with Donovan Mitchell, who, yeah, he got some help.

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But this guy posted his second straight 40-point game to get Cleveland to the victory. He finished with 43 points, 14-29 shooting, 9 boards, 5 assists, and really, like, the final score does and was a bit of a blowout. But... Donovan Mitchell refused to let another fourth quarter lead slip away. Because the Pacers, despite trailing a lot for a majority of the game, I think they got it to 11.

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Correct me if I'm wrong. It was 9 or 11. But, you know, it was reasonable there in the fourth quarter. And Mitchell shut the damn door. He hit a little fadeaway from about 12 or 13 feet. Then he stepped up, hit a pull-up three-pointer. That was huge. And then I think he found Max Struess for another three-pointer.

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So making all the right plays and sort of ended any sort of potential Pacers comeback. to get them the win. But this guy, this guy is one of the greatest scorers in playoff history. I believe he ranks like top 10 in terms of points per game in the playoffs. And it was like, I was thinking about it when I was making the thumbnail for this show. It's like, we obviously have playoff Jimmy.

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Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks podcast on The Athletic Network. It's Saturday, May 10th, 2025. Let me know right now in the stream team if you can hear me and see me, because I can't hear anything in my cans, but I think it's getting out to you, the people joining me here on Saturday.

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Jimmy Butler, who did some pretty miraculous things in taking some sort of subpar teams and lower-seeded teams and raising his game to the finals. Obviously didn't win the big thing, but he obviously got there, and that was huge. Warranted the nickname Playoff Jimmy. We have Playoff Murray. Or playoff Jamal. You sort of see both with Jamal Murray, who we'll get to later in this podcast.

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That one makes sense. Obviously never an all-star. His numbers like balloon in the postseason. He got the title along with Jokic. He's had huge shots and big like 50-point games and all that. But for whatever reason, we don't have the moniker playoff Mitchell or playoff Donovan. And I guess, I think there's three reasons.

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The first, as I went through with the other guys, like Mitchell's never made it past the second round. So I think that's part of the equation, right? You got to get to conference finals. You got to get to finals to really warrant that playoff nickname. The other part is, it doesn't sound as cool. Like when you look at it and when you say it, like playoff Jimmy, that's gold.

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Playoff Jamal or playoff Murray sort of both work. Playoff Mitchell? That doesn't hit for me. I guess Playoff Dono? I know he sort of goes by Dono for Donovan. Even that? So, just unfortunately named, I think. But he's an awesome playoff riser is my whole point of this spiel.

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uh and was once again amazing and he got some help in game three unlike game two where he tried to do everything and he probably ran out of gas at the end he was living at the free throw line he just kept attacking kept attacking he was doing that again in game three but he got some help because the guys came back defensive player of the year evan mobley uh you know key backup player deandre hunter those guys returned from their injuries in game two um oh sorry that kept them out of game two they picked up in game one and then darius garland also returned from the toe injury that

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Kept him out for like four straight. And, you know, I think Mobley, the best of the bunch. I thought Garland, obviously, a little limited. Though it was just probably nice to have another guy to handle the ball and run the offense a little bit to allow Mitchell to rest in some possessions. Mobley was the best of them, though. 18 points, 13 boards, 4 assists, 3 steals and 3 blocks.

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Him and his Twin Tower buddy, Jared Allen, who had 19 points, 12 boards. They allowed, especially Mobley, Kenny Atkinson, throw a lot of 3-2 zone at the Pacers. And it made Indiana look pretty stagnant. Took away that zip that we've fallen in love with from that Pacers team. And sort of helped take away the three-point shot of the Pacers as well. Indy shot 9-30 from deep.

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Halliburton only one three-point attempt in this game. And I got more to say about him. But Mobley... I mean, that's the difference maker. Obviously, he was like throwing down some lobs as well. He had a few where he fumbled out of bounds. And again, there was maybe a little rust or whatever, but I thought the ankle looked good.

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I thought he looked pretty explosive, both offensively, like I said, with the lobs and defensively moving around and taking care of the glass. And he really allowed Kenny Atkinson and the Cavs to sort of implement that zone because you got him in the middle and he's a hell of a good defensive player. I mean, DPOY for crying out loud.

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Cavs just dominated the Pacers on the glass, especially with their two bigs back in the lineup. I think in the first half, Indy had like two offensive rebounds, four second chance points. Cleveland, at the same time, 13 offensive rebounds, 21 second chance points. So, you know, that helped them get the big lead. It didn't get much better in the second half for Indiana.

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I'm Skeets in the yard, here to break down last night's two NBA games, and I will pause for a second. And make sure everybody can hear me. Okay, we're good. We're good. Before we get into the games, huge shout out to everybody joining me live on YouTube. I know y'all got to be tired of me saying, smash the like button, subscribe, share the show. You're like, okay, enough already. I've done it.

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It was like a little bit better, but they were dominated on the glass. I thought this was, you know, one of Miles Turner's sort of like worst games. Like the box score doesn't look brutal.

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i mean actually i take that back it's not good 15 points he got some free throws he hit one three but like no rebounding three boards for miles turner that's going to be a problem yeah he picked up a couple blocks but a lot of fouls as well they were frustrated pacers in this game i think they had five technical fouls um and that was you know credit to the cast obviously it was like do or die their season was on the line if they go down three oh they're not coming back um so they needed this one those guys play they play through injuries

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You know, I think they had been getting maybe some eye rolling in the media of like, guys, I get it. Banged up thumbs, twisted ankles. Okay, the toe injury, which I'm sure is very severe and very painful. And I'm saying all these injuries are, but there are other guys going through this stuff. We know of it. We've seen it.

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And it's at this point, it's like you might just have to play through the pain a little bit. And just like the mental boost, I think that gives your other guys on the roster like, damn, this guy's going to play through this. We know how injured he is. That may be sort of like spread throughout the locker room. And they contributed too.

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I mean, there's still, Evan Mobley at 80% is still better than anyone else on the Cavs bench. So there's that part as well. So it was cool to see those guys play. And I think we do have a series here now if they can continue to play and nobody else really gets all that injured. Back to Halliburton. Four points, two of eight shooting, only five assists, three turnovers.

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I don't think he grabbed a rebound. His first career home loss in a postseason game that he's played in. I was like, whoa. But big credit to limiting Halliburton goes to Max Struess. Full court pressure. I thought that set the defensive tone for this team. It slowed Halliburton. Strews also contributed, by the way. 20 points, 7 boards, 7 assists. But it was the defense up in his shorts.

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Nothing easy. And a little more physicality from this team. And maybe they were allowed to do that, the Cavs thought, because they had some guys back and some bodies back and some more minutes and you could play a little harder. So I thought Strews did an incredible job on Halliburton. It was weird to see Halliburton. That was a big disappearing act.

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And you had like sort of Matherin trying his best to keep a minute at times. Siakam had his moments in this game, but overall, I mean, Halliburton is what makes the Pacers go, even if he's not a guy that's going to score 30 or 40. For him to have one three-point attempt to obviously have... close to as many turnovers as assists. That's just a huge, huge win. So good job by Strews and the Cavs.

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My other note, on the negative side of things for Cleveland, despite the win, Ty Jerome struggled again last night. This guy... I think that the minutes, you don't want to lose him completely and you're not going to bench him by any means because maybe he pops off. But he had two points last night, one of eight shooting. I think he only played 13 minutes.

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That's got to be one of his shortest stints in a very long time.

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so kenny atkinson is pulling that back a little bit because he can't hit a shot he's 10 of 42 through three games so something to keep an eye on whether those you know minutes stay around there diminish a little bit and you know they go to a couple other guys and you're you were helped out by hunter obviously giving you at least 20 off the bench who was fine you know he's again he's gonna out there for defensive purposes he hit one three and

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And it was okay. It looked like a guy that maybe had a buggered thumb. So maybe it'll get better as we go on. But good win. Sort of fun that the Cavs got this, I think, because we want these series to go long. How amazing would it be if we get four game sevens in the second round? So Cavs making it interesting.

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But it does help. No dunks get in front of other people. We appreciate it. And numbers have been great here in the playoffs. And I think we've been helped out by some very entertaining playoffs. Podcast listeners, I hope your weekend,

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Moving on to the second game from last night. Entertaining. Overtime. I was going to say thriller, but I don't think you need to throw thriller on there. Because we had some potential huge game-winning shots at the end that didn't go down. Got to overtime in the Nuggets. It was one of those classic overtimes. We see this so many times where it's like just one team rolls.

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I think it was 11-2, right? For Denver in the end in the overtime period. But fun game and nice comeback again from the Nuggets. And it was a weird game because our superstars were really struggling, but it was the other guys on Denver coming through. It was sort of like Murray, Porter, Aaron Gordon outclassing J-Dub and Chet Holmgren.

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And it was like, again, your two MVP superstars in Jokic and SGA, they had some rough games here, but it was these guys duking it out. I do think OKC's inexperience... once again, I guess, if we're going to be honest, was on display down the stretch, especially in overtime. And we'll get into Shea and maybe his decision-making down the end. But the flip side is true, too.

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So if we're saying the inexperience of OKC, I thought the experience of Denver playing in a... It feels like Denver Nuggets have played over, like, what? Last three or four years with basically this core. So many of these, like, games that come down to the wire. I think Bill Simmons even tweeted last night saying, with this postseason specifically, Denver is 6-4 in the playoffs, overall record.

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But they're 4-0 now in these digging deep, nail-biting swing games, and that doesn't seem like an accident. Again, that was Simmons' tweet. A lot of truth to that. They just make the big plays down the stretch. They bring the physicality. They're composed enough because they got the reps. They have a million of these reps.

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And it felt like OKC looked a little shook at times as this got close and even in the overtime period when obviously you just reset the thing and it's 0-0.

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is off to a great start don't forget to call your mom this weekend we had a wild start to our Saturday sitting at the kitchen table with Nora I don't know maybe like an hour or so ago suddenly the house like like rumbled for a second like maybe a second and a half sort of looked at each other like was that the wind or did like we got sort of construction going on behind us like I thought maybe they you know dropped a huge steel plate and it just sort of shook our area I

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the superstars struggling was weird Jokic 20 points 8 of 25 shooting he missed all 10 of his three-pointers he I was gonna say he joked after the game but he wasn't joking he was like I was the worst player out there tonight he matched a playoff career high by committing eight turnovers you gotta wonder will that be the last time he shows up to the arena dressed as the joker because when you saw that be honest everyone

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I thought he was probably going for 50 and 30. Oh, God. The guy's literally coming dressed as the Joker? I should have went and checked what he put up. Somebody in the stream team, what was his stat line that one time he showed up dressed as Gru? Maybe cosplay is not good for Jokic because he struggled here.

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Though he did have a big... He had that little driving layup on the opening possession of overtime. That gave the Nuggets the lead for good. Because OKC only managed to score two points in the extra frame. But yeah, it was an off night for him. I mean, one of his worst games we've ever seen him play? Maybe, like, not even just playoffs? Like, period? In terms of shooting, 0 for 10 was crazy.

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He had the game-winning attempt at the end of regulation, you know, fading away in the corner. You know, probably could have got a better look, but it's also this guy. It's like, yeah, he could hit that. And you're almost like, well, he's almost due to hit one. It... Wasn't far off, but obviously didn't drop. SGA, meanwhile, just as awful. 7-22. He had 18 points. 1-8 in the fourth quarter.

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Yeah, Siakam, the guy who scored 39 in game number two.

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Yeah, and Kudos Towns, obviously, for picking up for Jalen Brunson, who had a bad night. Mikkel Burgess, who had a bad night overall. Both 6 of 18 in this game. And OG, who never really gets talked about, although we talked about his block. The guy came through with big threes in this game. He was good.

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He was feeling it. He was into it. There is something to be said. When your number one guy goes out, we got to do something here. And he definitely played that part in this game overall as well with three monster blocks. OG just freaking does it. And Reggie Miller likes to say OG. So it's fun to hear that as well.

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And he gets hurt while doing it. Classic. Classic Josh Hart. What a freaking series.

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Never thought I'd think about Tony Bradley since. I mean, we watched him pick up. Who was it when they played the Bulls? Steven Adams. He picked up. Right, right. Now we've watched him here in the G League this year playing right in front of us. Now he's playing in the playoffs.

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So we've seen the best Bradley moment. We've also seen the best Thomas Bryant moment when he closed out the Cleveland Cavaliers in that third quarter. He was dropping points. What did he have? I'm looking here at the box score. He had nine overall, I think, eight straight in that third quarter, something like that, close to it anyways. He was awesome.

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In that series. But they can't play him in this series just because of Mitch Robinson coming off the bench. But now he's starting. Maybe that changes. Probably not.

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Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You remember both Tony Bradley and Thomas Bryant for things that aren't basketball plays, really.

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Yeah, a ton of random notes. You saw Aaron Neesmith step on Jalen Brunson's foot and then his hand. Immediately after each other. Foot, then he goes down, hand. You just never see that, really. New balance, more like no balance that he's wearing on his feet.

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Oh, no, that's all right. Done with that one. Jimmy Goldstein, again, sitting courtside. That guy comes to every basketball game. And our friends at The Athletic have pointed out that he flies commercial, but he also flies coach. You'd think a guy who's obviously incredibly rich would either fly private or fly first class. The guy flies coach every single time, and that's how he's rich, I guess.

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Yeah. How much money has he saved by flying coach? You know, he seems like a smaller gentleman, so I'm sure he can fit in coach pretty well. It shouldn't be a problem.

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Right. That's crazy, man. Right, right, right. Crazy. Amazing. Okay.

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Because if Matherin touches it, it's Nick's ball, okay. Yeah, why is Miles Turner trying to save it? There's nothing to save. I know, I know.

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Maybe it was over and back. As soon as you touch it in the backcourt, it's over. Miles Turner was confused, too.

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Anything else you got? Yeah, one random note for me. It's always fun to watch the in-arena feed. No commercials. You just see everything that happens in the arena during these breaks. Roy Hibbert was there. A lot of people there. Roy Hibbert got put on camera. He's drinking this normal-looking drink, and then he decides, all right, I'm going to crack a bottle of water and chug it.

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I guess it's just tradition for everybody on camera to show that I can chug something. I can chug a beer. Because that's what the tradition is. I'm here getting drunk. He just decides to pick up a 500-milliliter bottle of water and gulp, gulp, gulp, gulp, gulp, gulp, gulp, gulp, gulp, gulp, gulp the whole thing. Just gulp, gulp, gulp. I don't think so.

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The sound was not coming through the speakers. But it's super fun watching all these things happen, watching these halftime shows. Because in Game 1... Oh, you had Scooby last night. This series is pretty stacked. Mary J. Blige, Game 1. Busta Rhymes, Game 2. And then here in 3, it was Christian and Scooby. They did half-court. Great job by Scoob. Half time. Yes, excuse me. Half time was fun.

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Christian killing it. These handstands, one hand handstand, then the two hand handstand, and Scooby's 360 dunks. But then he came out for a break midway through the third or something. They asked him to come out again. Does he get paid more for that? He did a thing again. Because he was that good, I guess, at half time. I guess he got the encore. What do you mean?

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What do you mean? What? Like, did he do the same thing? Yeah, basically. Yeah, yeah. Scoob. Well, Christian didn't do anything. Christian didn't do any more handstands. It was all Scoob. Okay. Scoob did another 360 dunk, I think.

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That's a great one. I did like the combo of Reggie and Stan Van because Reggie is always, he's supporting what's going on on the floor.

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You know, that kind of thing. It's a good balance.

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Yeah, that was him and Fred have a long time relationship because he's the one who caught Mitchell farting.

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That's interesting. It is interesting, and that's why they made those questionable trades at the trade deadline just to save any dollars to help pay Jern Jackson, who is making a ridiculously cheap contract. What's he on? Remind me. It's only $23 million next year in the final year. It's one of those reducing, descending contracts.

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It's gotten lower and lower, so it seems pretty smart when you sign it. But when you're paying Desmond Bain a ton and John Morant a ton, That guy's going to deserve a ton. Jaron Jackson Jr. is freaking awesome. One other guy that we talked about as a snob on Friday's show, Pascal Siakam, deserves as much credit as Tyrese Halliburton does. He's just awesome.

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Yeah, that was so fun to watch him go off in that fourth because it looked terrible to start this game for him. He had three fouls in the first half that were all bad. He bumped Andrew Nembhard at midcourt for no friggin' reason. Then he had a moving screen. Then he had Tyrese Halliburton in the post and did the hook, which probably should have been called a foul on Tyrese Halliburton.

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That's Trey's thing. But sure, yeah, that's true. The current, now, Yannis Edgunpo named to his seventh all-NBA first team.

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Yeah, I didn't check, but probably. Only trails LeBron as a current All-NBA First Team number. LeBron has 13. Giannis has 7. Then it drops. He's had more than Kevin Durant, more than James Harden, more than Luka.

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Yeah, when you think back, when we think about the best players of this era, Curry's only had four. That's right. Guess what?

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I'm with you. I think the number that really matters is the All-NBA rankings in general.

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Yeah, and I didn't mention Jokic only has five, which is a solid number, but he'll be passed by Tatum. He only has four. Tatum will be there a bunch, but it is interesting to see.

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No, he won't. He will not. He's still going right now. He will not.

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before that hook but why are you hooking Tyrese Halliburton you can just take him in the post you can dominate him but as you said Trey only two made shots in that first half two made shots going into the fourth quarter and then especially with Jalen Brunson on the bench you needed this guy's points he was extremely important you could hear Reggie Miller and Stan Van Gundy on the call at all times who's going to score for this next team well first to get them to that fourth quarter

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Yeah, it's not going to go down anytime soon because the TV deal is good for 11 years. I mean, that's where they're making their money from. So, yeah, Shea's going to keep on getting a bonus. I guess he'll get to literally a million per basketball game. That's pretty good. Wow.

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Well, Game 3 was excellent in terms of how those Wolves were out on every possession to a guard. I mean, as simple as that. Really, it did help out to figure out how to guard Shea either dropping back or as soon as he got into that mid-range, you're dropping back, but you jump out there to try and throw him off a little bit.

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Rudy Gobert is crazy to see. That was, yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, the Shea in the space is definitely important, and just the three-point making from the Minnesota Timberwolves.

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It was good to see a guy like Nas Reed, who was balling the first two series, 50% in series number one, then 43% in series number two, and then he missed all 12 of his first threes through the first two games, and then bang, bang, bang, bang, bang in game number three. So they were alive. And then he had a lefty hook. A lefty hook in a basketball game.

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So I'm not going to get too into what's going on. I will just say, yeah, I think the Thunder will be a little bit more ready to take their mid shots and ready at this zone that's being flown at them in different ways. And that's that. Game three was game three. This is going to be very different.

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It was the guy filling in for Jalen Bronson. It was Deuce. Deuce McBride went on a 7-0 run at the end of that third quarter to get them a little bit closer, and then those cat buckets were just sexy. The sexy drop step in the post, the blow by Turner, then the dunk, and then that three-point shot with two guys on him.

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Power forward and the center with Myles Turner and Pascal Siakam up in his face. I know Towns calls himself the best three-point big man shooter. I can't even say it. Best shooting big man of all time. Yeah, and the way he did it against both those guys in their eye. It was entirely true in that play. So you go from a great game one.

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He can't stop, won't stop. There's no way. Oh, okay. It doesn't matter if you've watched any of the previous movies. You're good. Everybody come up with a new one.

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Thanks for joining us. And remember, as you said, some IMAXs are slow. You know what is also slow? Gravy. You know who was at Game 3 of the Wolf Slender? Young Gravy. Oh, yeah. We'll want to see if he's Old Gravy tonight. Nice and slow out there. I just want to see if he's there. Old Gravy. Yeah, Old Gravy. He's from Minnesota. They love him. They show him on the camera. They love him.

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I almost was listening to Young Gravy this morning. He's an artist. He sure is. He is a freaking artist. He was born for this thing. I haven't listened to him yet. But I'll find out soon.

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He had 35 in game one to game two where he doesn't play the fourth quarter to game three where he gets even better. And that's why it's hard to be a Knicks fan. I mean, I would have a heart attack multiple times throughout this postseason because this team, the first team since they started tracking this thing to win three playoff games in which they trailed by at least 20 points.

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And they've all come on the road. So increase the amount of heart attacks for these fans. I mean, at home, they're three and five in this postseason, but they keep coming back. We've got six comebacks of 20 or more in the postseason overall, and five of them have been done by these two teams in this series. It's just so fun. This series is ridiculously fun.

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That's hilarious. Pascal Siakam started against Carl Anthony Townsend in this game because he put Mitchell Robinson at the 5. It's going Mitch versus Turner and Pascal versus Cat. And again, Cat was 2 of 7 in the first half. Lots of fouls, foul trouble. Not looking good. Pascal's doing a very good job in that sense, but...

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But really, it was sort of a blessing that Jalen Brunson was out in that fourth quarter because Carl just started so hot. Jalen Brunson only played a minute and 46 of that fourth quarter. He came on for just a quick little blip while Towns was hot, and then he had to go back to the bench with a foul number five. So this guy was just... It worked out in Towns' favor because he was the guy.

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It is interesting. When they traded Julius Randle for Carl Anthony Towns, I thought, okay, the best scenario here is to put a center beside him, like he did with Rudy Gobert in Minnesota. When you had the best defense, it's when you play with the center. But they didn't go get another one, and Mitchell Robinson was hurt basically until March. And so you couldn't even try it out.

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Kudos to Tibbs for trying it out in a series where, I mean, coming into this series, they were bad. With Carl Anthony Towns as the five, they're minus 4.7 per 100 possessions in the first two rounds against Detroit and in that miracle series against Boston because they somehow come back. This is what this team does. They get back somehow.

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I mean, all of the good lineups for them are when Towns sits even, even Hart sits even, but those are just... They are. It's a small sample. And it works out perfectly that he plays most of the minutes and Mitch just plays some of the minutes because he saw it out there. I mean, Mitch was amazing on the offensive boards, but the guy can't do it for many, many minutes at a time.

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We always go through the scenarios of his past where he gets injured. And so, you know, he can't do it for 48 minutes. That being said, Pacers fans are looking at that third to fourth quarter. Obviously, Aaron Neesmith went down for a good chunk. That changed momentum. It did. It did. And I watched every single Pacers possession. Was it them or was it the Knicks?

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Really, the Knicks dialed in big time. And I think Deuce McBride on the defensive side was a little bit of a... A blessing because Jalen Brunson was out. Deuce McBride fights so well over screens just to keep that defense going. He does it better than Mikkel Bridges even. He really, really fights for a little teeny tiny guy. So that helped out.

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I just think, in general, the Knicks were ready to scrap. And the Pacers didn't even have an assist. Pacers didn't have an assist in the fourth quarter. The first quarter. All year. All playoffs. All regular season, which was weird. But the Knicks were dialed in for this one. They get down, that's when they play, man.

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Yeah, it was scary there. He started grabbing his knee when nothing happened. I mean, it was just a random. Weird landing maybe. Yeah, possibly. And then he got beat because he was hobbling both ends of the floor. But kudos to Tibbs for continuing with that same rotation. I thought Shamit in the first half, you know, they hit him and DeLon Wright weren't all that productive.

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They were minus seven, or DeLon Wright was in those – that big stretch of his, but Tibbs keeps with the guys and they fought in the fourth quarter to get them back. Kudos to them. Kudos to that team. And that was just an incredible fight where they covered every guy and the end result, the end move for the Pacers in a couple of possessions was Aaron E. Smith in a post move.

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I'm Tass Mellis, and I'm glad I'm not a Knicks fan.

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Young Thunder Roll To West Finals, Caruso Slows Jokic & NBA Final Four Hype

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Ja, und wir arbeiten dafür und wir gehen durch Jokic. Und ja, es hat alles Sinn gemacht. Ja, sie haben dieses Spiel groß angefangen. Du hast gesagt, Christian Braun hatte zwei Buckets direkt. Einer von ihnen war wie ein großer Dumpf in der Lane. Dann hat Jokic einfach Chet in den Basket gelegt, hat auf ihn gespielt, hat ihn da aufgesponnen, easy bucket inside.

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Und dann glaube ich, Michael Porter Jr. hat einen offensiven Rebound genommen, hat ihn direkt zurückgelegt und es war wie, oh, Timeout. Okay, es war wie, okay, Leute, das ist Game 7 hier, lasst uns gehen. Und dann haben sie immer noch in der Runde gespielt, um irgendeinen Rhythmus zu bekommen. In terms of shooting the ball. Nobody could hit a three.

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Finally, I think Caruso hit one after six or seven three-point attempts from the Thunder. And then that got rolling. And again, they found more comfortable. But it was all their defense. The biggest stat is the 16 live ball turnovers. You're not going to win a game seven, let alone any regular season game.

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Give up that many live ball turnovers to a team as young and fast and as hungry, obviously, as the Thunder were.

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There he is, here we are. Hello to everybody on YouTube. Hit the like button, subscribe, podcast listeners. Leave us a five-star rating and review. I'm gonna tell you right now. On tomorrow's podcast is when we'll do our conference, finals, previews and predictions, both the East and the West. That's on Tuesday. Today we talk a little bit about Game 7, which was a blowout.

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Ein paar gewöhnliche Momente von diesem Ausbruch im 7. Spiel. Zurück zu Caruso, da war ein Schuss. Dieser Kerl arbeitete hart und ich dachte, das illustrierte es. Es war in der zweiten Runde zu spät. Er hatte sich gerade mit Jokic verabschiedet. Ich glaube, ein Foul wurde auf dieses Spiel genannt, aber seine Kopfhörer wurden über seine Augen geschlagen.

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Er sah sogar verrückter aus, über seine Augen. Das war, als er Jocelyn war. Und später in der zweiten Runde, als das Rennen für OKC stattfand, Great job by the ESPN crew to find a lone Nuggets fan up in the sea of blue. Now this is going to be after this play I was talking about, where Caruso comes around, pokes it away, and they're going to score in transition.

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Watch who they find in the crowd, because they're like, oh boy, this is getting out of hand for Denver Nuggets fans.

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There's the one guy in yellow, just stroking his beard and chin, thinking about, uh-oh, this one's getting away from us. I always love when the camera does that. Essentially you can do it so easily in OKC. Oh, totally. Because everybody puts on the shirt. 99% put on the shirt and then they can find the other Nuggets fans.

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They also showed some Nuggets fans that were sitting behind the Nuggets bench. They were leaving early.

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Beat the rush, beat the traffic. Maybe beat some of the jeers they were going to receive. But yeah, great stuff there.

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And look... Maybe it's true. Knicks fans are incredible. They are awesome. I said the greatest place to watch a basketball game is Madison Square Garden. Stand on that. But holy crap, OKC is loud as hell too. It's got that college atmosphere. It just is rocking like that. Any other random notes from Sunday afternoons? Game 7.

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We can look ahead to the Nuggets offseason and their decisions that they'll have to make and maybe get into a little NBA news. But let's start with that game. After a shaky first quarter, Game 7 was never in doubt for OKC. The Thunder swarmed the Nuggets defensively. They forced 22 turnovers to run away. 1.23.95, so the top seeded Thunder will host the Timberwolves starting Tuesday.

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Because these guys are just chucking... Yeah, they're just chucking their head in there and just getting so... Hit me in the face. Yeah. It's almost like a batter, just covering the plate. Barry Pond-style. Yeah, it's like, what are you going to do? I guess just hit me. I'm covered in armor. I'm just going to take my base. But yeah, do you have an opinion on it? I'm with you.

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It's like, what is the guy supposed to do? Because that was like... He's not maliciously trying to... It didn't look like it to me. He's doing what you're taught to do. He's like, yeah, clear some space there.

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Wenn du den Replay siehst, sagst du, ja, ich glaube, er wurde in den Gesicht geschlagen. Du musst etwas sagen. Aber in der Realität sagst du, okay, was soll er tun?

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Sam Presti hat das Jahr gewonnen, oder? Ja. Okay, gut. Weil das war ein toller Wettbewerb. Caruso für Giddey. Sehr gute Arbeit, Sam. Er hat dir nur die Konferenz-Finals geholfen und wer weiß, woher die kommen. Er wird vielleicht noch mehr Möglichkeiten bekommen, weil er ein großer Unterschiedsführer ist.

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Und Mark Dagnall, er ist auf der Bühne. Wir haben Jalen Williams nicht für das Spiel gesehen, wenn es kompetitiv war. Also hat er ihn aus der Rotation entfernt und er konnte das machen. Er war manchmal in seinen zwei großen Routinen, weil er war so, wir gehen super klein mit Caruso, um ihn zu schützen. Ja, weil er wirklich nur Caruso, Kaysen Wallace und dann Wiggins gespielt hat.

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Er hat eigentlich ein paar Drei's verpasst, aber... Er hat auch gespielt, hat auch ein paar Drei gespielt. Ich dachte, er war auch aktiv, auch defensiv für ihn. Also, gute Sachen von Degno da. Ich dachte, in der 7. Saison, ja, wir gehen einfach mit diesen Jungs. Und ein großer Teil davon war, dass sie Defensiv-Hüter waren. Es war wie ein Pack.

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Sobald Jokic den Ball bekommt, sind es sechs Hände, die wegschlafen, die an ihn gehen. Und wenn er es zu jemand anderem bekommen kann, kann niemand einen Schuss schießen. Ja.

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The West, starting before the East, even though the West wrapped up later than the East there in the second round. Very weird. OKC's first trip to the conference finals since 2016. TK, we'll start with you here this morning. Your biggest takeaway from the Thunder laying the smack down on the Denver Nuggets.

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Oder war es Mike Breen? Ja, ich weiß nicht. Jemand. Lass uns hier ein bisschen über die Nuggets Offseason sprechen. Glauben Sie, es werden nur Stunden, wenn nicht, was auch immer, Tage, Wochen, ich weiß nicht, wie schnell sie den Interim-Tag von David Adelman nehmen, oder glauben Sie, sie werden versuchen, einen neuen Trainer zu finden? Was ist Ihr Leser auf das?

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Yes, there is a vacancy there in the front office, because you said Booth got obviously canned when Michael Malone did, and so somebody will have to do that. You inherit a roster task that does return a lot of players, but

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you know it's top heavy in salary jokic jamal michael porter jr and aaron gordon i think are like 82 of their payroll and then their whole issue has been for for some time now is like okay who is there any bench can we trust any of these guys either our own guys with internal development or can we go and make a deal to sort of like try and get some more bodies in here and i don't know if you have any idea what that would be it feels like you would try and trade michael porter jr but i'm not sure what

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Ich weiß nicht. Das ist ein schwieriger Ort, in dem sie sind, glaube ich.

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Sie können nicht mal einen 1. Runde-Pick an Michael Porter Jr. und das Konzept anpassen, um irgendeine Art von Talent zurückzubekommen, weil sie keine haben.

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Zeke Notch ist ein Typ, der sich wahrscheinlich... Ich meine, er wird sowohl spielen, als auch handeln können. Er hat ein bisschen... Ich meine, nicht so viel Geld wie die Core-4-Jungs, aber er hat einen guten Kontrakt. Einen leicht bewegbaren Kontrakt.

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Wer wird für ihn zahlen? Ja, du hast recht. Vielleicht wird jemand zahlen.

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Sarge was a dud. Absolute dud. Sarge was a dud. Westbrook was exactly as expected. Won him a series, lost him a series. Yeah. I mean, he was minus 92 plus minus in the second round series, but he was a huge reason they beat the Clippers. And sort of shocked some people who had LAC winning that series. But yeah, his final stats in this one, he averaged under 10 points, shot 35%, shot 21% from 3.

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He had more turnovers than assists, I believe, in the series here. I believe that. Against the Thunder. I mean, oh my god, that's really brutal. So... Ja, und ich glaube, er hat eine Spieloption, oder? Er hat eine. Er wird entscheiden, ob er wieder da ist.

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Und für die vierte Saison sind die Nuggets projiziert, ein Luxus-Taxi-Team zu sein. Du bist ein Repeater-Taxi-Team. Das wird sehr, sehr teuer für diese Besitzung. Es wird ein 1er-Apron-Team geben. Die Wahrscheinlichkeit ist, dass es das sein wird. Es wird etwa 5 Millionen über das sein. Dann kannst du nicht 100% von den ausgewählten Spielern auswählen.

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Wir werden sehen, was sie mit ihren Büchern tun. Ich denke, Michael Porter Jr. macht den meisten Sinn. Versuche ihn zu kaufen. Schau, ob du mehrere Spieler packen kannst.

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Vielleicht, aber ich glaube nicht. Ich meine, nur die Chemie zwischen den beiden. Aber ich glaube, Jokic hat auch viel zu sagen. Aber vielleicht fährt er schon mal ein Fahrrad. Du denkst, er fährt schon mal ein Fahrrad?

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Well, let's get a little excited here for the Final Four, these Conference Finals. Again, we'll do our previews and predictions on tomorrow's podcast. We'll go through them, talk about the X-Factors, obviously make our predictions. But we have the East and the West Conference Finals set. And the last time each of these teams won the championship, you gotta go back, right? The Knicks.

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72, 73 Saison. Shoutout zu Phil Jackson, who was on that team.

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Yeah, so that's, you know, we're looking at 50 years there. Pacers have never won an NBA title. They got some ABA banners, but never in the NBA.

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In the ABA? Yeah. The Thunder, they've never won now. The Seattle Supersonics, they won in 79, but come on, the Sonics are coming back and that'll be their whole history. So the Thunder never have. And then of course the Wolves have not. Ist das eine wirklich gute Situation für die NBA?

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Oder ist es das Gegenteil, weil Leute sagen, oh mein Gott, kein LeBron, kein Curry, kein even mighty Boston Celtics. Guck dir diese kleinen Marktteams an und dann New York an. Was ist deine Meinung daran, TK? Glaubst du, dass das eine gute Situation für die NBA ist oder nicht?

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Das ist eine Möglichkeit, neue First-Name-Stars hier zu bauen. Offensichtlich Ant, SGA, Halliburton, Brunson. Das sind die Hauptmannschaften dieser vier Teams. Und ich denke, es gibt eine Wahrheit dazu. Selbst wenn LeBron und Curry und alle internationalen Superstars nicht da sind.

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Yeah, it's pretty cool that either Ant, SGA, Halliburton or Brunson are going to have a title when it's all said and done here. That is cool. And this is like what the NBA with the whole, you know, basically hard cap when we're talking about the second aprons and all that. This is what they wanted. They wanted this like competitive balance, which we are. You said seven straight seasons in a row.

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Now we're not going to have back to back champs. No, we're going to have a different champ. A different champ.

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Ja, es ist eine kompetitive Balance, was sie gehofft haben und sie scheinen es hier zu bekommen. Ich bin mit euch gepumpt. Ich meine, das ist für Sickos, Basketballfans. Diese vier Teams spielen jetzt auch tolles Basketball. Und für die meiste Teil, korrigiert mich, wenn ich falsch bin, sind sie alle ziemlich gesund. dass diese vier Teams in die Mischung kommen.

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Ansonsten habe ich einen Blank auf einen ihrer notierbaren Namen. Nein, wir sind jetzt ziemlich gut mit diesen vier Teams.

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Es ist immer wichtig. Ja, sehr wichtig, dass diese vier heiligste Teams sind. Und sie sind da. Das spielt eine Rolle. Aber wir sind aufgeregt. Und wiederum, wir werden sie auf dem nächsten Show beenden.

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Wir können das machen. Sie waren nahe in der NBA. Ich meine, natürlich waren sie extrem konsistent, immer in den Playoffs, generell in der Mischung, sogar in den Finals, aber sie konnten nie über den Humpf kommen. Es ist eine tolle Basketballstadt, offensichtlich.

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Oh, I can't lose there. Wow, who am I cheering more for? Ah, ich glaube, Siakam, wenn ich zwischen den beiden wählen muss. Aber ich werde mich nicht mit either of them representieren. Natürlich bin ich ziemlich gespannt, dass SGA hier in der Konferenzfinale spielen wird. Sie spielen die kanadische Homer-Karte. Sie werden den MVP gewinnen.

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Sie könnten vielleicht auch in der gleichen Saison den Titel gewinnen. Das wäre unglaublich. Das ist das eine, was unser Mann Steve Nash nicht tun könnte, natürlich. Er hatte die MVPs. Ich glaube, wir haben Cousins in den Konferenzfinalen gespielt.

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Er hat gesagt, wie groß der Beat ist. Mike Breen hat definitiv Shea Gilgis Alexander und Nikhil Alexander-Walker genannt. Wirklich? Ja. Shea hat einen tiefen Drei genommen. Alexander-Walker!

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I saw Trey on Twitter pointing out that Masai Ujiri has had some hands in these two Conference Finals teams here in Indiana and New York with those trades like you guys were talking about. Also Ghostface Ziller pointing out two of these Conference Finals teams essentially got here by trading Paul George. OKC hat ihn direkt für Shea Gildas-Alexander getradet, gut gemacht.

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Und Indiana hat Paul George für Sabonis getradet, der dann für Halliburton getradet wurde. Das hat mich gelacht.

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Wir sind aufgeregt und wir werden ihn auf dem nächsten Podcast veröffentlichen.

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Ich möchte nur sagen, dass Leonard Miller ein Kanadier ist.

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Lass uns das dann durchgehen. Die Thunder haben nur zwei Kanadier, oder vergesse ich jemanden? SGA und Dort, natürlich. Okay, also die Wolves haben zwei in Nikhil Alexander-Walker und dann Leonard Miller. Und dann haben die Pacers zwei in Andrew Nembhard und Benedikt Matherin. Und die Knicks haben null. Oh Mann. They gotta sign somebody. They're in trouble, man. Okay, good.

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We've gotten through the Canadians. Awesome. Okay, we got some news here. According to ESPN, Celtic star Jalen Brown played through a partially torn right meniscus to end the season. So Brown began receiving injections in his right knee in March and he played until Boston's season ended in Game 6 there versus the Knicks on Friday night.

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He will be evaluated this week to determine if surgery is needed. But here we find out, Tass, that this guy, playing through the partially torn meniscus. Some of these guys, you know, going through it here. Obviously Aaron Gordon, what he just did. There's many other guys I know playing through injuries, but this one, pretty serious there in the right knee.

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Ja, ich meine, ich denke, er ist ein bisschen unnötig, athletisch, weil wir wussten über den Knie-Injur, vielleicht nicht so sehr. Die Injektionen. Ja, die Injektionen. Und er hat vielleicht nicht so viel Explosivität, wie er es manchmal hat. Man sieht es in Bursen, aber du hast recht, seine beste Performance der ganzen Postseason kam in der Game 5.

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Die eine, wo sie natürlich, du weißt, sterben oder sterben, ohne Tatum. Dann gehen sie nach New York und er war der Beste für ein Quartier, zumindest, bis es komplett aus der Hand ging und er da draußen fiel, oder an einem Punkt in der dritten, aber... Ja, dieses Team. Zurück zum Gesundheitsfaktor. Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum zerstört seine Achillesboden in Spiel 4. Chris Tapps Porzingis.

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Alright, so the playoffs bracket, let's just show it to you here. Game 1 of the Western Conference Finals starts on Tuesday night at 8.30pm Eastern on ESPN and then we got the Pacers-Knicks Game 1 on Wednesday at 8pm. So we're gonna get a whole lot of 8.30 and 8 o'clock starts here, aren't we? Because we got no true West Coast teams. Wow. So this is...

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Das war toll für die Ostküste-Jungs, ja, ohne Zweifel. Also ja, fliegen wir zurück und forth zwischen ESPN und TNT hier für den Westen und den Osten. Reggie Miller auf der Anrufe für die letzte Serie für TNT, die die NBA beinhaltet. Das ist großartig. Und das wird in Madison Square Garden sein.

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You soon will get more of that. So can't wait. But we on tomorrow's show will start breaking those series down. Anything else, guys?

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Ant or Shea. Ant or Shea. Who are they trying to put over? I don't think they can really go wrong with either of them. But if the NBA were like, you gave them the truth serum, I think they would say Anthony Edwards and Minnesota. I do agree. But I mean, then again, yeah. The Thunder are obviously an elite team. They nearly won 70 games. They are. Imagine Ant in Madison Square Garden.

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Also, komm schon, Julius Randall ist auch wieder in New York. Oh Mann, oh Mann.

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Gib den mittleren Finger zurück. Ja, er geht von den Händen nach unten zum mittleren Finger. Das ist richtig, das ist richtig. Ich liebe das. Verstehen wir es für morgen, aber hast du gerade deine Leans, wo du in den Konferenzfinalen lehnst und wer du fühlst, der jede Konferenz repräsentieren wird? Ich lehne.

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Yeah, I'm sticking with that. Okay, so we know your Eastern Conference pick. That's it. I haven't thought enough about the West. Tune in tomorrow to find out TK's West pick. And we'll see you then. We'll call it there. We are back at 10 a.m. Eastern. Dann fahren wir nach New York für ein paar Arbeitsveranstaltungen. Keine Sorge, wir werden die Show weiter machen, während wir da sind.

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Wir versuchen immer noch, in das Gebäude zu kommen, am Dienstagabend für die erste Runde. Es scheint ein schweres Ticket zu bekommen, sowie Kredite, weil alle da sein werden. Wir haben die Show die ganze Woche lang und wir werden das morgen machen, unsere Konferenz- und Finals-Preview. Klickt auf den Like-Button, abonniert den Podcast, lasst die 5-Star-Ratings und Reviews. Bis morgen, Clipper Bros.

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Ihr habt es gehört. Habt einen tollen Tag. Schaut auf. Ich liebe euch. Toll.

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We're doing Oceans 11 in New York. Why not? I can't wait.

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Das ist, wie sie fast 70 Spiele gewonnen haben. Es war diese unvergessliche Defense, natürlich, in der Transition, scoren, easy buckets. Shea, ich meine, lasst uns nicht über das glasieren, was er gemacht hat, obwohl jeder ist, weil es alles um den Defensiv-Talk geht. Ich verstehe das, aber 35 Punkte nicht.

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12 und 19 Schüsse, 3 Steals, 4 Assists, 0 Turnovers in 36 Minuten, weil er nicht viel gespielt hat. Das ist ein verdammt gutes Game 7, wenn die Druck auf dieses junge Thunder-Team sehr hoch ist. Das ist großartig, aber wie du gesagt hast, zurück zu Caruso, das ist ein Defensive-Masterclass. Für den Mann, der 5 oder 6 Inch oder 100 Pound verdient hat.

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Ja, du musst nur physisch sein, hart und früh kämpfen, vorauskommen. Aber dann ist es nicht so, dass du viel siehst, dass Caruso einfach Jokic stoppt. Das ist nicht wirklich der Fall. Es war Caruso, der so früh gearbeitet hat. Und dann hast du es gesagt, Trey. Es sind all diese Leute, die unverdammt viel Hilfe geben.

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Und auch die unvergessliche Druck auf alle anderen Ballhandler, weil es keine Entry Passes gab. Und sie haben es nicht gut gemacht, auch wenn es Westbrook und Brown waren. Sie haben es nicht gut gemacht, Jokic den Ball zu bekommen. Und das ist, wie es alle zusammenwirkt. Und das ist, wie man einen Dreimal-MVP stoppt.

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Und ja, du siehst viel, ich meine, ich weiß, dass Matt Moore einen Tweet hatte, der viral war, über den Grund, warum Caruso auf Jokic funktioniert, ist, weil die NBA-Affizienten Smalls vs. Bigs. Und es ist wie ein leagueweiter Quirk. Es ist das Ding, wenn du ein toller kleiner Defender bist, wie Caruso ist, kannst du viel mehr wegnehmen. Und ich denke, es gibt die Wahrheit dazu.

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Jokic geht auch viel weg. Und das war Teil der Freude. Das war ein Kampf zu sehen. Er versucht es herauszufinden. Aber wiederum, ich komme immer zurück zu Caruso. Ja, er verdient viel Kredit. Aber jederzeit, wenn der Ball dann endlich an Jokic getroffen wurde, war es wie... Wie zwei oder drei Jungs. Und du kannst das auch machen, wenn niemand einen Schuss auf den Denver Nuggets schießt.

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Niemand hat mitgearbeitet. Und Aaron Gordon, offensichtlich wegen der Gründe mit seinem Hamstring, aber kein Jamal, kein Michael Porter Jr. Brown war gut für acht Minuten. Er war großartig.

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Aber es gab niemanden, der den Schuss schießt. Seine besten Playoffs, sicher. Ja.

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Er war am Fronten von Jokic auf D, genau wie Caruso in diesem Spiel. Er verabschiedete Jamal Murray auf der Halbzeit. Und dann auf der Offense, er war im Transition, er sah so schnell aus, wie wir ihn nach Game 5 und 6 gebracht haben. Und er war sogar im Mittelpunkt der Zone. Sie haben definitiv die Zone ein bisschen mehr in Game 7 herausgefunden. Sie haben ihre Spots gefunden.

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Offensichtlich viele Backside-Cuts von Chet, Isaiah Hartenstein, das Glas aufzunehmen. Maybe a part of that was Aaron Gordon, just being very limited. He's on the back line and yeah, he's barely moving. But they just felt more comfortable with the shots they were getting. I thought Wallace was great in this too. 7 points, 5 assists, 2 steals. Like Caruso, he's like a plus 38 in the game.

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And it's like weird to me, it's like, they have Lou Dort. Lou Dort finished, I believe, top 5, top 4 in defensive player of the year. And it's like... Diese beiden anderen Jungs, Caruso und Wallace, in diesem Spiel zumindest und in der Mehrheit der Saison, waren noch besser defensiv. Es ist wie, wow, ich meine, sie haben nur drei Elite, Elite-Perimeter-Verteidiger in diesen Jungs.

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Oh ja, die ersten drei Minuten von der ersten Halbzeit, die haben sie auf acht oder neun Positionen gespielt, das hat das Spiel geöffnet und viele von denen waren, ja, Defense, die in Layups oder Dunks die andere Art kamen, zwei, die mir kamen, war der eine, wo J-Dub, er poppte den Ball aus Jokic's Händen, es war ein Dunk die andere Art und dann, ich denke, es war der nächste Playdown.

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Sie haben Jokic auf dem Wagen und Caruso hat seine Arme umgezogen, um ihn wegzupacken. Ja, er ist physisch, ich bin sicher, es gibt einen Grab und so weiter, aber er hat auch für den Ball gegriffen und dann ging das auf die andere Seite für einen Transition-Lay-Up für sie. Und ja, sie haben so viele Schüsse auf dem Rimmel gemacht.

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Sie lebten einfach auf dem Rimmel, weil viele von ihnen im Transition-Lay-Up waren. Was ist deine Meinung auf den ganzen Diskurs von Caruso vielleicht wegzunehmen und physischer zu werden oder die kleineren Jokic und dieser Kampf nicht nur in Game 7, sondern die ganze Serie?

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Good morning, sweet world! And welcome to the No Dunks Podcast, presented by Amazon Prime. It's Monday, May 19th, 2025. I'm J.E. Skeets here in the Classic Factory, and alongside me, as always, Tass Mellis. Happy Monday, everybody. Next to him, it's the bearded woman, top shot hot boy, Trey Kirby. Ayo! Ayo! And over yonder, making the magic happen, super producer J.E. Hello.

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They're all goddamn pesky-ass defenders, so then that's the third guy that gets to come in and just swipe away at him. And you can see it. It's like he's trying to figure it out. He's trying to figure out where they're coming from. But, yeah, for him to have, like, the points is one thing and the shooting. Three assists. That's the win right there, man.

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You keep that guy to three assists, that means he's obviously struggling a little bit with passing lanes that maybe aren't there, that usually are, and then guys not hitting shots is the other part of the equation with the assist.

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We'll show you who wins the NBA draft lottery tonight before it even happens. We already know. We figured it out over the weekend. But first, let's break down Saturday's games. Let's start with the early one because it was the more entertaining of the two, though. It was Bubba Sparks. It was ugly. Oh, my God. SGA scored 25. Helped the Thunder pass the Nuggets 92-87.

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Yeah, exactly. And to bring up that Westbrook airball, rarely see the airball of the over the backboard variety. Usually an air ball is short, short! You know, it comes up, yeah, exactly. That one sailed over, that one from the corner he shot, I guess in the fourth quarter if I remember correctly. And it went over the rim.

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I don't like too long you know another part bad Westbrook game obviously with the shooting and all that maybe even worse he picked up three fouls there in the first six plus minutes of that fourth quarter including one where he gambled for a steal and barreled into SGA and that was a foul that helped the Thunder who again were struggling to some extent to score at all help get them in the bonus like 630 I think left in the fourth quarter like those rack up there early from Westbrook so not a good game

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This is a series we never actually predicted, right? Because we were gone and stuff like that and the way it all fell out. So let's get our predictions here in a 2-2 series. I want to know where you're going to go now that it's 2-2 and it seems like at least fair enough, close enough to 0-0. Where are you going, Trey? Call this one. Well, I mean, really, are you going?

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So you're going Thunder, but are you going six or seven is the question?

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Yeah, I like that too. That would be my pick right now. This feels like there's still one more Denver win here. They've pulled some crazy ones out, to go back to what Trey was saying, in some clutch situations. But I guess the one good thing is it's a game they lose, and basically everyone played bad for them.

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You know, it wasn't like a wasted Jamal game or a wasted Gordon game or a wasted Jokic game. It's sort of like everybody stunk. Now that's the Thunder defense doing that. Like, don't get me wrong, but there'll be a game once again here, I think in these final three, if we get them, that it will all click and they'll get another victory. But I like OKC in seven. Oh, you got Denver in seven.

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Let's hear from you guys in the stream team. Where are you going? I got two more notes for you.

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Missing the teeth, like the gaps in his teeth. Nora could not believe he was the head coach. It's crazy. She goes, who is that guy? I said, that's the new head coach. He sort of took over. Yeah. He does not look like a head coach. Yeah, I know. His dad was a famous coach. He's been, obviously, an assistant for a long time, but I get it.

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Tied the series at two games apiece, but they shot it combined well. 21 for 86 from three-point range tasks. They missed over 100 shots combined there on Sunday afternoon. Nuggets had eight points, I guess, in the first quarter. But we're in the game because, you know, the Thunder. Excuse me, the Nuggets. Did I say that right? The Nuggets scored eight points? Yeah.

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All right, well, let's keep it going here. Let's talk about the blowout from Sunday. The East top seed on the brink of elimination because the Pacers blew out the Cavs 129-109. In game four, they take the 3-1 lead here in their second round series. They built a 41-point halftime lead. That was incredible.

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It was insane how just like this got out of hand in such a hurry for Cleveland, of course, and then it was over. I mean, I know we've seen a lot of 20-point comebacks. You're not seeing that. It's not a 40-point comeback. Especially after Donovan Mitchell tweaks his ankle, getting ready for the second half, and then they shut him down for the entire second half.

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So what were your takeaways or your notes from this one, TK? Get us started here.

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Right, it was a bit like... Come on, we're down 40.

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Cleveland had 14 turnovers in just eight made baskets in the first half. And I thought, I went and watched all the turnovers again this morning because I remembered watching it live last night. I was like, God, these are ugly. Like half of these don't even feel like forced by the Pacers. And a lot of them weren't.

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But the Thunder weren't scoring that much more. But in the end, OKC got it done. Clutch play from SGA and the team.

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They had six Cavs players, had two turnovers each in the first half here when they were down a million. Jared Allen, he sailed one over Mobley's head in the corner. I don't know. He was rushing. He was panicked. I don't know. It went like 10 feet over Mobley's head over in the corner.

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A minute later, Allen had another turnover where he was, like, he was trying to wrap a pass around to Mobley, like, in the paint. Like, shoot it, big man. Like, it's a little hook shot right there. Not long after that, Mitchell rifled one out of bounds. Like, he saw, I think it was Max Struths, like, cutting backdoor, but it was, like, three feet behind him.

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Like, he got a fingertip on it, but turnover. Max Struths threw one at Allen's feet. He, like, just, again, like, I almost felt bad for Jared Allen on that one. He was, like... I think even, I keep forgetting who's on the call on these games, but whoever it was pointed out, like, what was he going to do if he even caught it there? Like, what were you thinking, Strews?

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Yes, yes, yes. And then Ty Jerome. This guy was a mess. He's been a mess all series. He traveled in the paint, didn't know what he was going to do, and just shuffled his feet. And then he threw away one where he tried, in a pick-and-roll action up top, he tried to loop it over. Just way too nonchalant. That was another turnover. Anyway, the whole point was they were garbage.

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And they got punched in the mouth, and they didn't know how to react. And it just got out of hand because the pacers were clicking and beating the zone, and the Cavs were just turning it over time after time.

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One of the spiciest things from this game was Benedict Mathren getting ejected for, I guess, the punch push to DeAndre Hunter's sternum there. He got him in the chest. Pacers were trying to inbound the ball, and that's what Mathren did, right? I mean, he popped him in the chest. Now, whether it was a close fist or a little bit of a push or a little bit of both, Hunter sort of doubled over.

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And then he walked over to Matherin, who did the wide arm spread. Come at me, bro. Yeah, exactly. And he sort of got in his face and then pushed him with the two-hand shove. He went down. And that's when Miles Turner came running in. He hip-checked Hunter. In the end, they determined that Matherin punched him.

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in the sternum as they say in the sternum and man like poor camera guys they didn't really have a good shot of this one did they at least that we saw in the broadcast never you could never see it no we needed the Hawkeye camera to come back or at least an enhance or something like that we never got to see fist to sternum maybe he did the five point palm heart exploding technique well that's what it felt like when we were not getting good camera views at first like because all you were seeing was Hunter sort of go over did anybody else think oh he must have tapped him in the balls

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The reaction was ball-type-like, yes. Yeah, but then, of course, then they see it a little bit, and it's like, okay, he's definitely popping them a little bit in the chest, but it's like, I don't know, it felt like more of like a... These two are obviously not getting along. Good on TNT for having that Matherin Hunter pack ready to go. Oh, yeah, that was nice, actually.

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The hard foul in Game 1, them talking a little trash in Game 3, and then this, obviously, in Game 4, but it didn't matter. I think when it happened, you're like, uh-oh, Matherin, what are you doing? You guys are rolling right now. Are you going to, like...

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It looked like the Cavs could have used Kara Sliver or George Niang.

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I know I'm a Hunter hater, but that's what I thought. I was like, man, they could really use them right now.

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And then Turner got a technical for, I mean, he was like peacemaking, but he did come in and bump the hell out of Hunter. So that's warranted, I thought. And I think the shocking part was more that Mather maybe got tossed for that.

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When maybe, yeah, whatever, flagrant tech, whatever you want to give. But nobody has Mather in our instigator draft. So no impact on our points.

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probably should do that during a timeout yeah that's not the first time he's ever done that no maybe not even the first time in that game i think there was another one too yeah where he's obviously messing with it it's like causing him some sort of discomfort he's trying to get it back but yeah the game's going on we're playing here yeah yeah so there's that uh anything else from you guys on this one the blowout do you think the calves are toast

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He is getting an MRI, I guess, is what they're telling us. I'm with you, Taz. I thought it was a bit more of like, okay, yeah, my ankle is sore. Everybody's sore, but we're getting killed, so let's save anything I have left in the tank for game five. But then I have seen the clip of him. I don't know if you guys saw it. There is some sort of backboard clip of him coming out there and warming up.

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he does seem to aggravate something. Oh, it's like doubled over. Yeah. He's like, yeah. So we'll see if he plays obviously in their next game. And yeah, if he doesn't, they're in a lot of trouble. If he does, can he, can they at least get that back to Indiana for, for game six?

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Let's talk a little bit about Saturday's games. We'll start with Edwards and Randall leading the Wolves past the Warriors, 102-97. They have a 2-1 lead now in their second round series. Julius Randall, first career, playoff, triple-double, 24 points, 10 boards, game-high 12 assists. This guy... It's just turning into Jokic here with the assist numbers he's putting up.

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He has been awesome, and Ant was great in the fourth quarter. And this was an ugly game too. Obviously, this was like what the Warriors were trying to do here and help their best chances to maybe get a victory without Curry. You had Butler a lot more aggressive. You had Kaminga chipping in. But in the end, those two Wolves stars took over TK.

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Yeah, and Curry's stressing Tass. Like his team... To win, they have to do it with defense, and they just could not make the key stops down the stretch that TK just went through, either open looks or those offensive rebounds that led to other looks, that in-corner three that he got another look at it.

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They just came up just short, and if they go on to lose this series, it feels like that one, that game to me was like the difference maker because that was probably the way they played could have been theirs.

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Warriors not helped out with Draymond Green fouling out with, what, about 440 to go when he picked up that sixth foul, trying to block McDaniels, who was attacking the rim on the baseline.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2285.35

Now, it appeared questionable to some, you know, minimal contact, definitely touched him, but that was his sixth, and the ones before Trey that he picked up go either way, a few of them, though there are many other times where Draymond is getting away, probably with a foul call on him, so if you look at the entire game, it's like, well, that could have been a foul, and it wasn't.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2303.206

Oh, that one's called a foul? Ooh, that one's tough, but maybe it all evens out, but... He's just... He's bad. He was bad in this game, too. He didn't do anything this game. No, he did nothing.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2340.191

Yeah. So tonight, obviously, season on the line. It feels like for the Warriors, especially as they just try and pray and wait to hope to get Curry back.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2347.077

we keep talking about like don't worry curry will be back but you got to get to those games for curry to be back uh unless the wolves take care of business here but huge game that game four it's always sort of fun when that home team is down to one and it's like it's their season feels on the line it really does so we'll see what fight they have in them but it felt like man they let they let that one get away like like i'm reiterating what you guys are saying it does feel i do believe that anything else from that one

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2416.539

Why did Looney get dunked on when Ant dunked on him? That was Kaminga. Exactly. Watch the play. That's a brutal closeout. What are you doing?

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2445.926

If you're not going to put your hand up, at least do the Jose Calderon defense. Clap him? Clap him off?

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2516.718

Let's talk briefly here about the Celtics crushing the Knicks, 115-93. They cut New York's lead to 2-1 in the East Semis. Celtics shot a little bit better from three. What a surprise, right? Yeah, a little bit. 20 for 40, I think they were, from three-point range in Game 3 after going just 25 for 100 in their two losses.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2535.592

They made their first four three-pointers there on Saturday and never really slowed down. They were 6-7 behind the arc in the first quarter. They had their highest scoring first quarter of the postseason. And, you know, there was times where the Knicks tried to put together the little comeback, but I thought Missoula was on it. Quick timeouts when it was cut to like 17 or 18.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2553.205

Like, no, not this time. So, you know, look, we knew this was going to happen. It just happens here in Game 3 for the most expensive ticket in town. Yeah. which you also probably could see coming.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2646.3

And Pritchard definitely, I thought, robbed MSG of their energy, right, because he was hitting those threes. He was actively looking for a shot. He was playing with some freedom. There was no doubt Missoula was trying to get through to these guys. Look, keep gunning them. Just do it with confidence and obviously be open and we can get a better shot. But, yeah, they just knocked them down.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2663.67

Again, we knew this was going to happen. It's just a matter of when. So they do it in this game and got another 20-point lead. They've had a 20-point lead in every game, Tass.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2672.335

The Knicks are going to need to stop that, even though they're up 2-1. They're going to have to change that part where they're down 20 in Game 4 and moving forward here to win this.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2746.758

Also, worst game for Mitchell Robinson in this series so far. Had played pretty well in games one and two, but that didn't work out in games three. They decided to do the whole foul him thing again, especially in the penalty, and it paid off. He was 4-12th.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2761.19

at the free throw line and you know another air ball of this guy and you know again that's a thing that just like deflates the crowd a little bit especially when he's not hitting them and you're like oh god what's going on now do we have to get him off as well so they continue with that i mean the southeast just stuck with what was working in games one two even though they were down oh two like right

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2779.665

Our offense, our shots, our three-pointers, and our strategy even with him, and it paid off in this one as they built the big lead and never really were in any scare of giving up this one, TK. No, not at all.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2824.782

Missoula, the quote after the game. Still down 2-1, of course, in the series, but you've got to tap into your darkness. This guy's all about the darkness right now and the hole that they are.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2839.747

Nice reference. Did we hear that at the wedding?

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2845.489

He did like to play a lot of the song. He would play the whole song, no problem. But then again, like, why wouldn't you when the crowd's going that crazy? People doing their claps. Yeah, exactly. Just rhythm. All right.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2863.098

It should be like hockey to me. Because you can't do that in hockey. Oh, swap them out?

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2874.424

I don't know. I think they did in the end. Yeah, they did. They did get it.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2900.047

I think worldwide mob tweeted. That was so funny. Like you imagine showing up for your pickleball game today.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2936.978

I thought you were going to say positive for the Knicks because they have not had a good offensive game either in this series. They haven't. And they were a really good offense this year. That's true. That could be unlocked for one of these games for sure.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2948.883

You are a little worried about the cat injury and how much of an effect that has had on him because I think he's been pretty bad sort of overall in this. He was taking some bombs there. He was getting even deeper and deeper with some of those three-point attempts on Saturday, but not really falling all that much.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

2973.034

It was like five of 18, and you guys were talking about the defensive drop way out of the play.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

3000.257

They could, they could. I mean, they feel that way because they've led for like 90% of the series. Yes, yes, it's true. So you understand their reasoning and they're the defending champs. And, you know, they are, I think on paper, the better team maybe like in terms of just top end talent and stuff like that. You're not wrong though. That's the vibe from them.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

3032.582

Of course. 7.30 Eastern. Oh, my God. Right after the draft lottery. Perfect segue. 2025 NBA Draft Lottery tonight in Chicago. That might be good for TK. Drawings will be conducted to determine the first four picks in the draft using 14 ping pong balls numbered 1 through 14 in that lottery machine they use.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

3052.657

The remainder of the lottery teams will select in positions 5 through 14 based on regular season records in descending order. Here's a quick look at the lottery teams and their odds of winning the number one pick. Now that's Suns pick. That's going to the Rockets, okay?

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

3068.318

Yeah, that Hawks pick, that's going to the Spurs. And that Kings pick is top 12 protected. So, you know, if they jump up here, they're keeping that. Otherwise, if it's at the bottom, that'll be on its way out. But look, there's no need to wait to find out who wins the number one pick.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

3083.672

Because over the weekend, we used the power of pickleball to predict who is going to win tonight's NBA Draft Lottery. Let's roll the tape. No Dunks is back to predict the 2025 NBA Draft Lottery winner. And this year, we're doing it pickleball style. In this hopper, 100 labeled balls representing the unique lottery odds of all the teams.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

3105.32

The Jazz, the Wizards, the Hornets, they got 14 balls in here. Teams below them, they got fewer. The first ball that JD hits into Trey Kirby's toilet hat is the winner.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

3126.908

Oh, this may not take long. I'm going to speed it up.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

3158.856

Placement okay here? What do you want, closer to the net? We got 100 balls, don't worry, don't worry.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

3209.076

So there it is, the Utah Jazz. We predict we'll win the draft lottery tonight. Obviously one of the teams with the best chances to get the number one pick at 14%, along with a few other teams. Let's see if we can get it correct again, because we have done this, not the pickleball variety, but we have correctly called the winner before over a very long time, but two or three times, I want to say.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

3231.312

I know we did it a couple years ago with Paolo and the Magic. Trey pulled out, even though it took like eight attempts to pull out an egg. The egg was tough. We did get there, and the Magic won. And then way back, you in a shower once with an industrial fan and a bunch of paper did pull the Cavs. One of the years they won. I couldn't remember if there was one other time.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

3300.589

Should we have had you smashing it at Kirby instead?

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

3325.484

She is crazy out there. I got to commend you for... When we do get the Leggie slash Wedgie there, I thought it was going to fall off because it looked more on the side. I mean, it was closer to me, but I thought it was going to fall towards me and not in. But you... You did not move an inch. Statue-esque. I mean, I was doing the joke, like, blowing on it.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

3346.243

I don't think I was having any impact on it. I don't know how it went. I don't know either. But you just stayed, like, steady as a rock. And then it, like, yeah, just fell in. That was beautiful. So we'll see. Beautiful ending. Hopefully, I guess. I guess. From our perspective, we either want the Utah Jazz to win, because then the video will go viral.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

3364.035

Or two, we want the Toronto Raptors to win with a 7.5% chance. I did have some people asking me when we were making the balls. And by the way, there was 100 balls in there, all representative, but 7.5%. How do you do that? I put eight in there. Oh, robbed up. Don't you worry. And then, or the Bulls. Yep. With being in Chicago, what'd you say, having the Derrick Rose odds?

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

3410.054

That's a great one. We're listening to Vampire Weekend. I mean, I really hope it is going to the Jazz tonight because you're wearing a toilet hat. We're even screaming like, pooper flag, pooper flag. Pooper coop. It's so good. All right, so we'll find out. That's at 6... Excuse me. That's at 7 o'clock tonight.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

3426.925

I said 6.30 because we're going to jump on playback a little bit early to live react to the draft lottery. So if you want to join us on playback, that link is in the show notes. We'll go live again around 6.30. Stay for the hour. And then obviously we'll get excited and watch the games. But we'll see who wins tonight. So join us on playback. Could be a lot of fun.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

3472.776

What about even the Rockets jumping, like, into the top four with that pick, with that Suns pick? Because then, and we'll talk about this probably tomorrow or this coming week, you know, there's a lot of reports here, Giannis open-minded about exploring whether his best long-term fit is in Milwaukee or playing elsewhere.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

3489.327

So my point is, you know, Rockets have been a team that people have brought up about Giannis. You know, you suddenly have a 2-3 pick. I mean, oh, man, you can sweeten the package there. Quite spicy. To go get them.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

351.667

Yeah, I think that's fair, especially when... Like they really are down to like six guys, the Nuggets. He brought up the bench contributions from the Thunder. That was that part of that like 11-0 run where guys suddenly hit some threes and they were right back in the game. And then SGA took over down the stretch.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

3519.712

So what else are we watching tonight? I guess the Sixers could drop and lose their pick to the Thunder if they fall out of the top six. They would need a couple teams to jump ahead of them to bump down, but it's possible that they could obviously lose that pick. And I went over a few of the other ones.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

3547.433

That's something crazy. Yeah, a lot could go down tonight. We'll find out again at 7 on ESPN. But join us at 6.30 on Playback. And otherwise, we'll be back here to talk about that and the two games on tonight. Until then, Clipper Bros.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

365.702

I like that little stretch there from SGA where he drove on Murray, got him on his hip, And he had one sort of do a Jokic-like shot, right, if we're being honest. Hit the backboard, hit a couple parts of the rim and fell in. Then he hit a tough fadeaway on Christian Brown over in front of his own bench.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

381.896

And then a little bit later, after setting up Jalen Williams, J-Dub, who had a really bad game, except for that really timely bucket to help beat the Denver zone, back to SGA, he blew by Jokic in a pick-and-roll up top and just sort of snaked his way for the easy layup. So he came up really short, SGA, in games 1 and 3.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

400.709

But really good reminder, I thought, in game four that this guy is among one of the most clutch players in the league over the last couple seasons in regular season. So big game for him. And I mean, again, it got really close. It was a dogfight, a rock fight, whatever, for them to pull this out. Otherwise, they're down 3-1.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

416.42

And I think people would be saying, I don't know if they can win three straight.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

419.682

Against Denver. So they may save their season there with that game.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

467.592

Chet even said it in the mid-game interview, right? He's like, this is basically as close as you can get to sort of a back-to-back in the playoffs because we played that night. It went to overtime and then we have the afternoon game. It's a little strange that it was like... Why wouldn't they have flipped those two and done Indy Cleveland maybe during the day and then do this one at night?

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

486.691

That is a little odd. Had some impact it appeared. Nobody can score. That was a disgusting first quarter.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

539.744

Yeah, that's a great point about, okay, see, figuring out at least how to beat the zone, because I was pulling my hair out in some of those possessions earlier in the game when they were seeing Denver's zone. They would do the thing where they wouldn't move to side to side. And I think that's when the zone really is working at its best, oddly.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

556.736

It's like, well, I'm open on the wing, so I'll just let it rip eight seconds into the shot clock. And if you don't hit it, I mean, if you hit it, okay, fine, you're beating the zone because you're hitting threes. But if you don't, it's like... that's a bad shot. Defense didn't have to do anything, you know, to get those things.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

569.824

But if you move it and then you attack when it gets swung to at least get to the paint to then kick out or maybe get a shot at the rim, yeah, then you at least have the Denver defense scrambling and working. But they didn't do that for a majority of the game until that second half, I thought, more and more. It was swinging. And was that Legler on the call on this one? If I remember correctly.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

589.034

Okay, yeah, J. Billis. He was pointing that out that it's like, oh, this is when they're doing their best when they actually just make it move a little bit.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

647.62

Yeah, and on a night, that was a good coaching decision to at least go to Caruso more than Dort in this game, who's really struggling to hit any sort of shot. He's out there for defensive purposes, yes, but Caruso's giving you that, and he's able to, with confidence, take and make a three from time to time. He was great, chipped in 10 points.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

69.167

Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks podcast presented by Amazon Prime. It's Monday, May 12th, 2025. This is the Classic Factory. I'm J.D. Skeets, and alongside me, as always, Tass Mellis.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

697.83

Oh, yeah. I mean, like in last night's game, he's, I don't know where you slot him. He's the second or third best player on the floor last night.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

710.219

Yeah, especially in a game where, I mean, J-Dub was awesome in game three. I mean, he's the only reason they were in that game, but bad game four. And then I thought Chad Holmgren had a big rebound, offensive rebound late in this game. I thought he had a pretty bad game overall. He looks scared to me. That thing is getting the ball, and that thing is swung immediately.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

725.869

Like, take a look at it, man. You can shoot. But it's Caruso and Hartenstein. I mean, I guess give the game ball to Sam Presti for getting those two guys in the offseason because, like, they were huge different makers. Caruso we already talked about, but Hartenstein, like, eight points, okay, but 14 boards. He had a steal. He had a block.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

742.512

And just, like, those two guys just playing with some tenacity, knowing, like, our season's on the line here, guys. Like, we've got to just at least play harder than them.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

811.91

Oh, you got your mom medley in the end after all.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

822.638

Any other notes from this one? And what do you think moving forward here, Trey? I mean, I guess the flip side, we're like, yeah, OKC needed it and they're in it. Is the opposite true? Like, did the Nuggets sort of lose their chance to maybe win this series? Or are they still in this, in a best of three, I guess, with two in OKC?

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

85.254

This one's for you. Next to him, it's the bearded one, my top shot hot boy, Trey Kirby. And over yonder, making the magic happen, super producer J.D. Hello. Hello. There he is. And here we are. Hello to everybody on YouTube. Hello podcast listeners on today's show. We're going to get you all set for tonight's game fours in Madison Square Garden and the Bay.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

890.419

Mark Jones, man. He's got a line for everything.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

956.662

I thought that was pretty funny. Good random notes.

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Thunder Rally Late, Pacers Push Around Cavs & NBA Draft Lottery Wishes

986.662

Hardenstein, obviously a big dude and a great defender. Then you got Chet roaming around because a lot of these guys, they don't care about really all that much from deep, so he can sort of hang around him. And then you always, like you said, you always have a Caruso if he's not matched up on him on switches, a Wallace, an SGA, a J-Dub.

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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes

101.854

Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks podcast presented by Amazon Prime. It's Friday, May 30th, 2025. This is The Drop. I'm Jay Skeets here in the Classic Factory, and alongside me, as always, Tass Mellis. Happy Friday, everybody. Next to him. It's the bearded one. There's Taz. Next to him, it's the bearded one, my top shot hot boy, Trey Kirby. Heyo. Heyo.

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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes

1018.383

I've never seen him play that hard. He had a long stint.

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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes

1022.766

Yeah, that's what I mean. He's bounced around a lot. He's been let go by a lot of teams. He's been dealt by a lot of teams. I mean, he is a good scorer. He can obviously shoot, but I just don't remember being that locked in on that end. And, you know, that's why I love the Knicks crowd. I mean, they're so into it. They're like, oh my God, this guy's like, he's giving it on that end.

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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes

1040.237

That's why they're chanting his name for sure. And he played a long stint there because Tibbs was loving him. He's like, oh, man, he's having an impact here.

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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes

1113.402

Yeah, it is true. These guys that are getting in there for that 15 to 20 minutes, like in Mitchell Robinson's case, just go balls to the wall, man. You're not going to be out there all that long because suddenly our coach is now playing other guys here. A normal rotation. Giving even his starters, like Karl-Anthony Towns and Jalen Brunson, a very normal rotation.

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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes

1132.108

you know 36 or under minutes in this game like that that's that's not even a lot really for a postseason game so yeah he's actually doing it here and these guys are contributing we also did have the Pacers employing the hack of Mitch there that was in the third quarter that's when that thing got cut to 10 it got dicey and then that's uh you know Tibbs like okay I think he missed both those didn't he sort of clank both of them and then

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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes

1152.896

Took him out to avoid any more of that, but that's when you said Brunson again sort of put the team back on his back and got the lead back up to 20. We even maybe there is when we had that Nova Knicks play, right, where it was like Brunson to Bridges, and then Hart made that late cut, found him for the layup, and the crowd was loving that. Good, good performance here from the Knicks.

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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes

1171.632

Also, I just have, like, the Pacers, like, early in this game, just too many, like, dumb mistakes. Like, they just weren't locked in like we've seen from the Pacers all postseason. Nemhard early in this game, who had a really bad game. He's struggled this whole series. Yeah, especially the last two. But he had a wide open layup.

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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes

1189.984

It was Ole, Nick's defense, and he didn't take it and instead kicked out to Neesmith for a three on the wing. He missed it. There was that OB top and brutal game from him. He completely lost Mitchell Robinson in semi-transition. Easy dunk underneath. Two plays later.

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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes

1206.385

toppen just like tried to split the knicks defense like he was a point guard stan van was not loving that he's like well you're doing too much man so yeah he turned it over way too cute nem hard had butterfingers you know knee smith traveled uh on the first possession of the second half just dumb things like that they're off obie toppen has never tried to handle the ball in this series that's why he's been so great he's been smart but it seems like it's

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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes

124.005

And last but not least, making the magic happen, super producer JD.

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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes

1240.227

It's a good point. I wrote in my notes here, it was like five minutes to go in the first quarter. And I'm sure it has happened maybe once or twice in this series, but...

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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes

1249.231

the Pacers had a possession where they had to use all 24 seconds I couldn't believe it there has not been many of those in this in this series or in their entire postseason run where it's like whoa my god great Knicks defense the Pacers just could not generate anything they couldn't get by anyone and I think it ended with Halliburton like trying to hit like a fadeaway three on the side as the shot clock expired I was like right jumped out to me I was like oh my god

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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes

127.37

There he is. Here we are. Hello to everybody on YouTube. Where's Leo?

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The Drop | Brunson & Knicks Force Game 6, Jrue Holiday Trades, Magic Apologizes

1272.478

They made them use the entire shot clock and then had to force up a heave. I mean, again, maybe it's happened a couple times, but not many times. No, no.

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Yeah, now. I can't believe you have two friends named Phil. Two Phils. Wow, that's crazy. That's got to be rare. All right, anything else from the actual game? You want to get into some fun random notes here?

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trying to find him hit the like button subscribe podcast listeners we love you too leave your boys a five star rating and review the hater that is Leo nowhere to be seen for the last at least couple of shows couple weeks maybe people are saying we miss him we're missing him we're missing his energy man he would be so high up on the community leaderboard which is a thing we have now we don't know how it works we don't know we don't know what it does but congrats if you're in first second or third right now you have a little crown by your name on the stream team

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Yeah. Look, you're going to get a much better performance from them, especially their main guys, and we'll see what the Knicks bring. But it's a good point there on them rarely losing back-to-back games. That was the first time that they didn't close out a series this postseason too, right? I mean, they took care of business in Game 5. That was the big comeback against the Bucs.

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And then it was Halliburton going head-to-head with Mitchell in that Game 5 to put them to sleep. So couldn't get it done in New York, in Madison Square Garden, but they'll have a chance at home.

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No, no, you don't. Hopefully he can play in game six.

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All right, let's get into some random notes, JD. Random! Random! Yeah, let's start with this one because it was making its way around the Twittersphere. It was a game of tic-tac-toe played between two Knicks fans. You know, it's the whole thing where you've got to go do the layup, come back, and then put your piece down. And we had a guy just straight botching the block here.

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So super fast on the right, quick layup, get back there. All right, man, you got it. You got the block. Put your O right there. There you go. What? Why did he run right by it?

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Why? That's an own goal, I would say. He just freaked out. It looked like he was going to put it down there. It looked like it. And then he goes, I'm going to go right by it, put it up in the corner, and instead the guy gets the win with the X's.

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I don't know for sure, but that's what I heard, which is pretty crazy if that's the case.

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For $1,000. For $1,000, yeah, which is true. Pretty good, pretty good. You mentioned Cat flexing all game long. He did a lot of his double flex that he's been doing all series, all postseason. But he did have another one where he powered to the rim, was like midway through the second quarter. And he's just going to give us the one-arm flex.

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But the reason I wanted to show this clip is he ends up giving that guy there in the orange hoodie a nice high five, right? Yep. And I was just watching this going... basketball is goddamn awesome. Like, a superstar player can just give you a high five. Like, just goes, like, you know, two feet into the crowd. Like, you can legit just high five a player.

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He doesn't have it. I think he might be a casual. Hey, look. Hey, look. It might be true.

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Yeah, that's true. I always just consider that a flex. But I mean, I guess it is in a different way. You're almost flexing your shoulders. Your lats. Neck flex. Yeah.

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Check the shoulders. Yeah. I mean, it's his version of you're too small to me. Yeah. Right? Yeah. It's Kat's version of that. He's doing it a lot. Ben is too small. Yeah, he's great. We had some funny... Well, actually, sticking with Kat, I couldn't stop laughing at Stan Van Gundy's frustration with Karl-Anthony Towns. Does he secretly hate him?

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He brings up a whole lot of times about the dumb fouls and about just other things. He's always like taking a little shot at Karl-Anthony Towns, I find. And I get it. He's a frustrating player. Maybe it's because he is so good and then he does dumb things and it's like, I don't know, it's like odd. But I'm convinced he is not the biggest fan of cats.

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He always hated the podcast listeners. But maybe he is. All right, we are here on the drop to obviously talk about last night's game. We're going to get into some beach step-in. Got a few questions that you guys sent in that we'll address. And we got rapid fire. Tass has the questions this week.

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Yeah, he had the slides on, too. Yeah, he's chilling. As they're on the floor. Another funny commentary line. Reggie Miller, he was pissed with that review of Deuce McBride getting the foul. Hard foul. Hard playoff foul on Siaka. He wanted to go look at it, you know, anything malicious. And he was...

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Not happy that they were taking the time to look at it and said, I've been kissed harder than this. What a line. What a line from Reggie. He was not happy with that review. And rightfully so. There was nothing crazy about that. Fully on the arm, wrapped him up, no hard super fall. But that's a pretty good line from Reggie, I thought.

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people no i just don't there's not a lot of places in all honesty like to put like a booth like that there there isn't it's like that weird upper echelon catwalk so to speak yeah um it's a great arena it's the best arena in the world uh but they're way up there it is funny they're so far up there and then they like but then after the game they're on the court yeah they bring them on down and put them in stools down there and let ernie hold the clipboard uh a few other random notes um

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Correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe there's been a game. But it took me until last night to realize that the Knicks don't do free playoff shirts. Has that been the case the entire series and postseason? I was like, oh, they don't do it. Like all the other places. Somebody in the stream team let me know. Maybe they did it and I'm just forgetting, but I can't recall a time.

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It's like one thing Dolan doesn't want to dish out the money for. It's like, nah, we're not doing that. Go to the gift shop. Yeah, probably.

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Well, it's a win for the Burroughs. But that's just like the team. They don't give that out to the crowd. That's just the team, yeah.

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Yeah, we're like, I mean, it's New York City, man. So that's why I just took it until last night to realize. Like, oh, yeah, they don't do that. I would like to see us add the concept of Mitchboard. to the lexicon of Hoops Talk. Hear me out here. I think it only happened once last night.

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The Mitch board to me, Mitchell Robinson, fighting for an offensive rebound, not getting it, but because he's trying so hard, the defense deflects it out and it stays Nick's ball. We need to, like, term that something. And I feel like Mitchell Robinson gets a lot of those. He has in this entire postseason. That's just, like, something we've brought up before on the show.

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Again, didn't happen a lot last night, but it happened once early in the game. So, I don't know. We can do better than Mitch Board, but, like, it is pretty impressive. Like, and it doesn't show up in the box score, right? This is true. We should be tracking these. Because that is, like, that's keeping giving you another possession in the out-of-bounds under the net.

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All because you showed some hustle. So, anyway, I'm just, like, pitching that to you guys.

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Totally. Totally. And then my final note. Yeah, this is my final random note. Do you guys believe the Google search trends they show us?

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So the one last night searches for NBA 3-1 comebacks are spiking 300% in the U.S.

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Yeah. And I'm like, yeah. Because they're always too convenient, aren't they? It's like they run with a little angle from that particular game. Yeah. But I don't know. I don't know. Maybe it is spiking 300%.

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Okay. I believe it spikes because of whatever is happening with an injury or the series and all that. But like, are they just making up the number? Probably. Are they just like, throw 300% on it? That sounds good. I don't know. Throw 250 on it. Yeah. Or is that actually doing it? Somebody's looking it up. I mean, I guess we could check, I'm sure.

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Exactly. It throws everything out. The numbers are all wrong. Yeah.

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I think it was one team. I'm still convinced. It was like, yeah, just throw it on Halliburton. I don't know which team. It was the Bucs?

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And he makes it sound like half the league thinks he's overrated. Exactly, yeah.

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Oh, yeah, yeah. That's there forever. Hey, he's making money off it. I know our friends at Breaking Tea were the first that I saw to have the overrate that T-shirt. But I know Halliburton himself, he's Puma? Yeah, he's Puma. They just released one. Overrate that. Same thing.

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It's not Luka, but it's kind of Luka. It's sort of the way he moves with the ball. I know what you mean. Definitely. That sort of style that he plays with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He probably does get away with it a little bit more. Yeah. Didn't do anything last night with it.

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Yeah, he voted him over until he carries the ball. Before we sort of move on from this game and hit the beach to answer some questions, do you think we're coming back for a Game 7 in Madison Square Garden, or do you think the Pacers will have a much better performance and close it out in six on Saturday night?

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All right. Let's get into the game. Jalen Brunson scored 32 points. Carl Anthony Towns added 24 and 13, despite that bruised left knee as the Knicks stayed alive in the East Finals. They beat the Pacers 111-94 on Thursday in Game 5. So the Knicks finally won on their home floor in this series, and they prevent the Pacers from booking an NBA Finals trip.

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Yeah, I think Indiana. Okay. Where are you going, TK?

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Yeah. Hey, look, it's great. We got some NBA weekend hoops, playoff basketball at that on Saturday night. So thanks for the Knicks for winning game five. All right, let's hit the beach. Yeah. Yeah, we got a few questions from you guys by way of email or you sent them in through social media. So appreciate everybody sending in the questions.

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First one here, Charlie writes in, Dear NoDunks, Am I crazy to think Dallas is going to trade the first pick for Kevin Durant? They're clearly in win-now mode with Kyrie, AD, and Klay, and Durant felt like the missing piece of the trade deadline. Thoughts? And on that note, when's a time you fully believed in something and felt crazy for it? Again, that's from Charlie.

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I guess he's even admitting that this is maybe a little crazy, this take, because it sort of stopped me in my tracks. I do not think the Dallas Mavericks will be trading Cooper Flagg for Kevin Durant. But what do you think?

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Yeah, I think they're going to take Cooper. That's the move. But with Kevin Durant, obviously we all think he is going to be moved this offseason. Shams was recently saying that the Spurs were maybe kicking the tires on a Kevin Durant trade. So I was interested to hear your thoughts on that. Do you think that makes any sense to what they could do?

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Indy will try again on Saturday night at home. We're going to have a podcast on Sunday morning for all of you, but let's talk about this Game 5. Where do you want to start, Tess?

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No, I don't think they'd be trading the number two pick in a Kevin Durant trade. But they could trade some of their good guys in Devin Vassell or Kelton Johnson or... You know, Sohan or something like that. So good players that maybe the Suns would be interested in, but would you even consider that if you're the Spurs and where they are with Wemby and then Castle?

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I just don't think you make, I mean, the timing is a big question of this. Like how aggressive are we going for it right away? So you may want to like, let's see what we have with Wemby there healthy in Fox. And obviously if we take...

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who we take at the number two pick if it's Harper and Castle for sure but like keep keep all of these picks keep all these other young guys who are talented and can maybe blossom on another team in a bigger role and wait for a bigger superstar a bigger name that's maybe even a little bit more on your timeline like a Giannis character or something like that exactly exactly I my point is I would not do anything like that for Kevin Durant if I'm the Spurs and I don't fair it's all it's fair it's fair

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Next one here from Exploding Steve. Hey, boys. The Celtics will likely break up its championship team this summer to cut down on payroll, and Drew Holiday has been one of the most mentioned names as someone who could be on the move. Do you think Holiday still has something left in the tank? And which teams could you see trying to trade for a vet? Thank you, Exploding Steve.

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That's interesting. You say a pick would be going back from the Clippers to the Celtics. Some people think the Celtics might have to attach a pick. To get off of Drew Holiday, like you said, three years, $104 million, I would say.

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dropping off that quick i but it was a bad year clippers did try to get holiday before like in 2023 and struck out there and um maybe they make another move i guess bogdanovich like chris dunn and eubanks i think maybe gets you to holiday numbers like that's part of the issue here it makes a lot of money so you gotta give a lot of selling bogdan's a good a good start yeah that's the starting piece if this were to happen between lac and boston you see any other trades or what do you think of that one

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Final one here. JD, this one's sort of for you. Guys, the fire alarm was the clearest audio of JD's life. Obviously, I freaked out a bit when I heard it. But even after you said it was in the studio, it got me. Just the cleanest audio game in the world from JD. All the best. Oh, look at this from Dan Lan.

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Who just helped us out with some content this week. Thanks, Dan Lan. Thanks, Dan Lan. So, JD, that's quite the compliment.

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that was a first though for us in doing 5,000 shows a fire alarm I don't remember going off in any of our shows back in your house back when we were on Skype in all of our places obviously in studios we've been in it's pretty amazing it is pretty amazing there you go anything to add to that?

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My smoke detectors in our house are just, first off, way too sensitive and so damn loud. You're like, all right. I mean, you don't need to tell me that much. I just can't stand. We have a rule now in our house. You can't put the oven to 400. How are you baking? We have a very hot oven, so it's like 375, 380, you're fine. That's basically 400 we've decided.

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But man, anything over 400, it's going off just from pure heat somehow. The very sense of it's good, but then one starts going and then they all start going. Yeah, exactly.

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It's like, come on. What? Yeah. Wow, just the heat. Yeah, I guess. How are we not at a point where it's like voice activated? Where I go, okay, I get it. And just shuts off. Or like code word. Freddie Mercury. Yeah, exactly, exactly. How are we not there?

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380 is perfectly fine! All right, great questions. Keep them coming, especially now as the basketball slows down. I mean, we were spoiled there with a game every night. Yeah. But now, obviously, we're nearly at the finals, and Jesus, we've got, like, big gaps between games and the finals. Send your questions in. We'll be hitting the beach, I'm sure, a lot more.

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Alright, before we go, let's have some rapid fire fun. Tass, you got the cues, my man.

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I am currently mulling over which new basketball sneakers I should buy. I am ready for some new sneaks. I got a great gift card to use for helping coach the YMCA basketball team. Very kind gesture from the kids and their families. So I'm trying to decide. I'm torn between the Sabrina 2s. I play in Sabrina 1s. I like those. Sabrina 2s are out.

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I sort of really do like how the Anthony Edwards shoes look. I don't know what they'd look like on me. I think you have a pair of the Jaw 2s. Yeah. You don't seem to love them, but, you know, maybe. Not recommended. Not recommended? Okay. Anyway, try to decide. I think I'm going Sabrina 2s, though, because I saw them last night. Again, our friend Daniel. And I was like, I picked them up.

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I couldn't believe how light they were. Like, again, I have the Sabrina 1s. They're like half the weight of them, which I like a light shoe. So I think I'm going Sabrina 2s. But I am still mulling.

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And hooping them? Yeah. I mean, I got them on right now. They look good. I don't know. There's so much like a skate shoe to me. So I don't feel like I could play ball in them. But I love how they look. And they're very comfortable.

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The poo shoes. I'm going to be a brown shoes guy. That's going to be awesome. Hey, you were on fire last night, by the way.

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I've never seen you score more with your left hand than last night. Yeah. I was cooking. Yeah. I can't deny it.

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He was on fire. We had some nice one-two action going. We did. A couple beauty dives. Wow, close-up of the book. What? A little dirty right now, maybe. It's an interesting shoe.

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That thick tongue. Yeah, man. It's comfy, though. Very comfy shoe. Yeah, nice. Tapping it.

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Brad Pitt, 61 years old. Yeah. Wow. Okay. Looking good. Tom Cruise, 62. Clooney, 64. Wow, I always thought Clooney was way older than Brad Pitt, but not really. 64 only? Yeah. Okay. Strange.

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Wow, that'd be cool. Brad Pitt. I don't think he likes basketball, does he?

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Yeah, I'm sure he's there, but I don't ever remember him talking about his basketball fandom.

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We're going to shave it down. We're going to shave the head of the studio. Yeah, I like it.

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Feels like a garage. I mean, ever since the sign went out, it got real gloomy to me. Exactly. That nice light behind Tass, it always brightened my mood. We've got to fix that. We've got to fix that. We've got a new one. Like you said, we're doing the whole thing. Yeah. All right.

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We're all changing our look-ups. New shoes, shaved heads, and new studio. New look alert.

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One of the best rapid-fighter questions ever. I left it wide open. What are you interested in? The world is your oyster. Pick anything. Oh, it's funny you say the world is my oyster. I'm interested in traveling this summer. Okay. Yeah. It feels like I haven't done a lot of it recently, at least sort of internationally.

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So, you know, Nora and I got our eyes on flights to Lisbon, going back to Portugal, which we love. Get a new sweater?

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Come on. Go to Japan. First off, I got to go for weeks to Japan. Okay, that's fine. I'm not flying that far for a week. Take two weeks. I want more than two weeks. Take three weeks. All right, you guys take care of the studio, I guess. Yeah, I do want to go to Japan.

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The yen is garbage? The yen is garbage. All right. Now's the time to go.

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So anyway, traveling. All right. This summer, early fall.

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I'm so glad you said that's the exact thought I had. Like, my God, we all took this in like grade 10, 11. Everybody was doing creatine, and then it disappeared, it felt like, for 20, 25 years.

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Now, would you say the bouncier the ball, the easier it is for people to play? Like, where's the skill level? Great question.

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Yeah. I just imagine it's one, whatever you get used to. Exactly. That's like playing with a basketball that's, like, super inflated or one that's a little more deflated. Yeah, it's the same. It's a preference. Yeah.

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Survivor fandom. And I knew people were into Survivor. I'm into Survivor. We do a Survivor show. But, man, these last couple months where there's been all this, like, debate and rumors about who's going to get selected to Survivor 50, and people have opinions. Oh, yes. My God. It makes, like, NBA fans seem neutered in their takes and their fandom.

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people go to bat in the survivor world for people that they love or the flip side people that they absolutely detest totally and it's crazy out there now my entire twitter feed is all of this because you know i start looking at it and getting ready for the show and so now it's just i'm getting a constant barrage of people either um you know standing for said players or absolutely hating said players it's passionate

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Not many people think Colby is going to win. Under the radar guy. Maybe Jeff Probst does. Yeah, Survivor fandom, I underestimated how crazy you are.

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We're in year three of the Rizzler? I don't know. I don't know.

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The Rizzler was just on Sesame Street. The Rizzler, see? Yeah, I think he was. Yeah, he popped out of the can with Oscar the Groucho. I gotta see this episode. I think he's even got Elmo doing the... The Rizz Face?

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No. No way. Maybe when he gets into drugs and stuff like that. Yeah. Where are they now? The Rizzler will be probably on, more likely Big Brother, but maybe Survivor 80 of Survivor or something like that. The Traitors or something. Don't underestimate the Rizzler.

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Well, that's where the Boom guys are. I think he's a wrestler still. AJ?

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Yeah, I mean, it started, like you said, with Brunson. I thought he played like SGA did in Game 5 to start the game. I think he scored or assisted on the first eight points for the Knicks in this one, and then he started aggressively looking for the three, and that started dropping.

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Yeah. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that. I think it took you like 10, let's say 10 to 12 pickleballs to find it. Yeah. And then once you found it, you started pinging them. Yeah. And it got closer and closer and basically then did the wedgie and went in. Yeah. Yeah. So what did we say? It took like 20-ish balls? 20 to 25? 20 to 25, I'd say. There were 100 balls, too.

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Labeling each one. We truly trust it. Yeah. Like, I was disappointed when the Jazz didn't win.

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All right, let's call it there. That's Rapid Fire. Not so rapid, but not too bad this week. Hopefully this helped make a classic. You tell us. Hit the like button, subscribe. Podcast listeners, five-star ratings and reviews. We will be back on Sunday from the Classic Factory to talk about Game 6. We're either talking about the Pacers moving on to the finals or the Knicks giving us a Game 7, baby.

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Will we hear Zaza? on sunday morning we're gonna find out after we watch the game on saturday night but we'll be here so make sure you join us on sunday morning till then clipper bros you heard it here first have a great time turn up love you guys awesome thanks for joining us and remember charles barkley said he's going to hell but i don't believe him he's going to heaven

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He had 14 points early in this game in the first quarter alone, had a quiet second, but got up to 32-5-5 in a do-or-die game. He was awesome. He was like that key difference in the first quarter and then in the third quarter. And then, because of the bench actually contributing, I love Tibbs suddenly playing guys off the bench now, he got some rest.

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And then obviously was fresh enough as the game went on. And then, yeah, Cat. I mean, their stars came through here to at least force a game six back in Indy.

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Yeah, he only had eight points. He did have six assists, zero turnovers, but only seven shots, you said it there, Tass. And like... That's the worst thing you can do in the NBA, I tell you. If you're considered an all-star, considered a star, it's just to not really shoot.

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I mean, even Ziller wrote in his newsletter this morning, the difference between Brunson and Halliburton, it sort of was on display last night. He wrote, I love this line, Brunson's an absolute machine. Sometimes he'll be inefficient, but he's going to be heard every night. And Halliburton doesn't seem capable of setting aside his style to be heard on nights when his style isn't working.

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End quote. That's Ziller in that fantastic newsletter, Good Morning, It's Basketball. I think that is right. Sometimes the right play is just deciding, I might be the best option tonight for our team because we lack the juice. And I know it goes against the whole sort of style of the Pacers, but... That's never a problem with Brunson, even on the nights where the shot isn't falling.

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I think in general, though, like the Dion Waiters quote, people do... They're fine if you're a superstar and you go two for 20. They are. They're more fine with that than you going one for five or one for six. Yeah, like just not having an impact and trying to grab the game.

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Isn't that like what he averaged during the regular season? Basically the same numbers.

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I was actually talking with our guy Daniel at our run on Thursday nights about like, who is a good comparison to Karl-Anthony Towns like in the history of the NBA? Because he's like a giant dude that's coordinated but oddly sort of isn't coordinated. He's such a weird style. Obviously a great shooter, so there's that. We were struggling.

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We were like, I don't know, are there shades of DeMarcus Cousins in him? There's that little bit of Dirk in him, sort of a lumbering big dude but can shoot the ball. I don't know if anyone else comes to mind of Karl-Anthony Towns comparisons. Just sort of body type and the way they play.

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Let's talk about, you sort of mentioned it, Tass, Tibbs, you know, Playing guys off of his bench here. And he's been like, sort of, I think Dwyer wrote in his newsletter, Tibbs here has now introduced the idea of rest and rotations in the postseason with the Knicks lineups that he's throwing out here.

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Because we had at one point in the second quarter, I think it was to start the second quarter, DeLon Wright, Deuce McBride, Landry Schammett, Josh Hart, and then Cat. That started the second quarter. I was like, this is an odd lineup. I was like, I don't know. It more than held its own, that five. I think they won that battle before OG checked in for one of those guys.

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They won it like 13-9 if I clocked it right. I know you got the popcorn machine up right now. So, I mean, it just worked. And man, Landry Schammett, I've never seen him play that hard defensively. Ever. You know, these other guys, DeLon Wright, yeah, he's going to get in there and give you at least some defensive energy. Same with McBride fighting over screens. Landry Schammett, no.

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No, he's never done this. But he was playing so hard. And then I think that's really what warranted that, like, Nick's chant of Landry Schammett. He was giving them something on both ends, not just scoring. He definitely helped. It was amazing to me.

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And then they gave us a good Nixon 7 chant at the end of the game.

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The Drop | Nuggets Force Game 7 & Drafting Best Landing Spots For Giannis Trade

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What other jobs? Is somebody a lifeguard? There are lifeguards there.

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You've got to leave the phone at home. It might be an option. Looking ahead to that game, this is the first time in over two weeks that Denver will have more than one day of rest between games. They have played so many games here because, oh my god. It just feels like Jokic and Murray, I guess. They just play in game sevens all the time. This is their seventh one.

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Yes, Saza Petulia, Game 7 baby. That clip, believe it or not, from this decade.

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This will be their seventh game seven already. And I think there was a stack going around last night. This is their back-to-back game sevens in this postseason. The last team to do that, first round, second round, that went all the distance to seven, the Denver Nuggets in 2020. Team before that, the Denver Nuggets in 2019. So they're just always in, especially in the first couple rounds.

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It takes seven. It takes seven. I mean, a lot of us thought this would go the distance this series. It felt pretty close. And, yeah, there were opportunities for, I could argue, both sides to have won this in less than seven games.

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Yeah, again, gets until that Sunday afternoon at the very least. A lot of people pointing out, you know, this winner-take-all Game 7 between two of the MVP frontrunners, obviously three-time winner in Jokic, likely winner this season in SGA, still hasn't been announced. Are they, the NBA a little worried about that now? Like, they could lose Game 7?

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On Sunday and then we're going to have to do the weird thing where we give it to him at a stupid press conference in a hotel room. What is going on? Why haven't we just given it to him either in the first round or here in the second round?

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From what I can remember, yes. I think this is one of the later ones here in terms of the calendar to not at least hand it out yet.

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Well, how about this? Again, I'm stealing this from X. Hang the MVP trophy above the court like it's money in the bank or the belt in a ladder match tray. And whoever wins game seven, not only do you advance to take on the Wolves. Jokic or SGA get the MVP trophy.

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Why not? I love it. Do you think they would agree to it? It's like a stipulation. It's like a wrestling contract. Jokic and SGA got to get them together.

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right they're like Shane would be like not cool enough for me and Jokic would be like I don't do that yeah I guess the flip side is they may be the most likely to do it because they don't seem to care all that much maybe about the MVP they're like yeah sure whoever wins the game because like they're all about team team team team team so yeah let's put it on the line

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I don't know how you beat Jokic in a wrestling match.

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I think you're right. We do. I don't know where it is.

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Yeah, he's like Gunther or something. Did you put the belt on that guy? It really makes you think. SGA is obviously an athletic freak, but I think I'm taking Jokic in that battle. As for the game, though, I don't know. SGA said after the Game 6 loss, it's going to be very fun. The highest intensity basketball you ever play. But we'll just let the chips fall where they may.

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You know, he's never too flustered by any of this. Yeah, he's just pretty like, he's almost excited. He's like, this is great. This is why we play this. But again, we're going to see more Nugget Zone that they've done here over those last couple days, and they're just daring the Thunder to shoot and hit threes, and they are shooting 25% from deep in these last two losses.

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It's amazing. That clip just gets grainier and grainier each year.

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So that's... Who hits the threes? Because they're going to get these looks. Who's hitting them threes? Who's hitting those threes? And I think there was that one game, I guess I'm... Was it game five? I mean, Dort was the one that saved them. But we talked about they saw the zone, and sometimes it's 2-3, sometimes it's 1-3-1, if you want to call it that.

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They're switching it up a little bit, but like... They were getting their best looks when they wouldn't settle quickly, the Thunder, and they would move the ball from side to side and then attack because the lanes are there. The lanes are there.

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You've got to go seek it out a little bit and can't get happy with, yeah, you're playing the zone, so you're going to be open right away, but maybe don't shoot that. Maybe get a better look. Maybe tire the defense a little bit. Usually, this is why the zone that they're doing is funky because it's like,

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I was going to ask you any changes here from Dagnall. Do they even start Caruso? You think maybe you stick with Dort and you just see quickly what you got going and then maybe go to Alex?

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It makes sense. I think it's part of its charm, the Game 7 baby clip from Zaza. Yeah, look, facing elimination at home, the Nuggets got a strong effort from a sick Jamal Murray and an awesome, Second half boosts from reserve guard Julian Strother. We had the Julian Strother game here. They beat the Thunder.

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And you know the crowd is going to be lit there in OKC on Sunday afternoon. Any other random notes from this one before we get our official Game 7 predictions on record, even though I know where you're going because I know what you predicted in the series. But anyway, any other random notes?

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That game five, a couple of those were scraping the ceiling. Yeah, for sure. Speaking of Tim Legler, man, he's a great analyst. He is great. He is killing it right now on the call. Like, just, like, super informative, of course. He keeps his, like, points short and sweet. Like, gets in, gets out. He's not a rambler.

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And I think most importantly, you can tell that the guy just loves watching this high-level basketball. And yeah, believe it or not, that comes through our screens, that joy and loving it, where maybe some other analysts fall a little flat in that, I think. So I thought he was great on this, and he's been pretty good his entire run when he gets his moments here.

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I thought they were very good. Very, very good. My only other random note from the game is I sort of slipped in earlier. Cason Wallace did have a nice stretch there. Yes. And he needs to be included on any conversation where we talk about the fastest guys in the league.

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okay that guy's fast as hell he is holy crap like i know i mean i'm still probably taking on man thompson against anybody and then maybe his twin brother uh is also in the mix do you heard fox very fast there's other fast guys case wallace he's quick maybe he's just more quick than fast because holy he is correct he scored a couple fast breaks like blur end to end he's really quick that'd be a great all-star weekend event just do the race just a race they literally do it in the afl

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The Australian Football League. Australian rules. Aussie rules. They do it. They do it during, like, they do it during basically their Super Bowl. They get all the other teams, like, fastest guys, line them up, and they have a race. I swear to God, it's awesome. Cool. Yeah. So they should do this at All-Star weekend, you're sure?

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They force a Game 7 baby on Sunday afternoon, which is very exciting for people that love basketball. But let's get into this game. It was Jokic doing his part. And Murray. And again, Strother here as the Nuggets beat them 119-107.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Julian Jamjar from the corner. All right, well, let's open that up to everybody. We'll get some help here from people in the stream team and podcast listeners. What's something, yeah, I guess jam, strawberry-related, with the ball arena angle with Strother.

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I thought that was well done. It was great. That's what they should do.

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He was like pounding his field. Come on, man. It's N1. That's a good call. They also had another quick review at one point. There was another quick one. These were fast reviews. So we can do it is what we're learning over the last couple of games. Like it's happened. It happened in the Knicks Celtics game. If I remember correctly, the last one, there was like a quick review.

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It was like, okay, good. Let's keep going here. All right. Keep it up. Anything else? Anything else? The people are saying straw fairy jam.

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strawberry jam forever it's better than julian jam jar it is it is it's not bad i guess triple j the new triple j do you have a favorite jam flavor are you a strawberry so am i yeah that's that's controversial people don't like because it's got the little tiny little raspberry sort of seeds in it that's why it's not as popular in my house unfortunately oh see we switched to wild blueberry get out of here raspberry number one by a lot by a lot okay what's two what's coming silver

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Okay. Not a strawberry fan. I mean, I'll do it, but give me a raspberry.

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Okay, so let's get your prediction for Game 7. Who's winning? And, you know, besides Jokic and SGA, give me, like, who's the hero.

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I think this is his first true road game seven because he had a couple bubble game seven. Okay.

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He'll win it for him. You know I love to hear that. Kitchener's finest. Okay, I'm going Thunder at home here. I think they'll bounce back, you know, and they've just played way better in OKC. And I'm going to take a Wiggins. It's going to be the Wiggins game where he just like hits a couple threes, and that might be enough, and it'll be over a stretch.

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So Thunder in a close one on Sunday afternoon, but don't tell him. He's calling for, Casey, get over here. We got the IM. Where's Casey? Casey, get that hot dog out of your mouth.

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You'd be happy with that? Yeah. Yeah. All right, well, let's move off of that game and let's talk a little bit about Giannis because shortly after the Bucs were bounced in the first round for the third straight season, it was reported that Giannis is open-minded about playing elsewhere for the first time in his 12-year career.

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So reps from both sides, Giannis' camp and the Bucs' camp, they're going to discuss their future, whether it's together or not, later this summer or in the coming weeks, I guess. But we all know Nothing stops the slop from slopping. Nothing stops the slop. Put that on your back at a swimming. Ew, actually, don't do that.

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So, thought it'd be fun if we drafted some potential landing spots as the Greek freak here weighs his options. And we can speak in generalities for now. I mean, you can pitch your trade package if you want, but it's just more like the idea of where makes sense. Who has the pieces? Where would he maybe want to go and all that, right? So that's what we're doing here.

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It basically should be realistic enough. The fact is, I guess all 29 teams should be in the Giannis sweepstakes. Now, whether all of them can be or, of course, will be is another question. But let's do it here. Drafting the best landing spots for Giannis. Let's do three rounds. Let's say you go first, and then we'll go back and forth and talk it out.

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And I guess that goes for Castle as well. 20 years old.

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Some young, talented guys, for sure, if you're in Milwaukee. Yeah, I like this one. This one makes sense. I love the downhill pressure that Giannis would bring to pair with Wemby. It feels like just a super athletic version of Duncan Robinson 2.0 in San Antonio when Duncan was the younger guy and Robinson was a little bit older, but both obviously elite defenders, great offensive players.

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So yeah, you do this. No-brainer. I'm with you. I mean, even if your team is left being Giannis, Wemby, Fox, and then you just go and try and get as much shooting as possible to fill out the roster, you're sitting pretty, I think. Is Mamou still going to be there? Former teammate. Yeah, good point. I don't know.

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They know you're close and you're calling each other. FaceTime. FaceTime, nice. Okay, so Spurs off the board. I like that one. Let me keep it going here. I'm sticking in Texas. I'm going Rockets. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm going Rockets. For what it's worth, the Rockets are favorites right now on BetMGM to land Giannis if he gets traded. Plus 475.

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It makes sense because the Rockets have the goods to make this happen. They control their own picks. They control future picks from the Suns, Mavericks, and Nets. So like you were saying... It's like, okay, we're going to give you a bunch of our draft capital and we'll add Giannis. And Milwaukee's like, okay, great.

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We're going to get a bunch of picks from the 20 to 30 range because you're probably going to be pretty good. But then you get all these other teams. I like that because now you're betting on a couple of these other teams for whatever reason, having a bad season, falling off, stuff like that, pivoting into being bad, and those picks maybe are coming your way. So that's the same thinking.

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And then it would be, here's what probably happens, right, in a Giannis to Houston trade. Talking about phone calls. I assume it goes something like, yeah, we'll trade you Giannis for all these picks and all these blah, blah, blah from all these other teams you got. But we want Amin Thompson.

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And then Houston, I think, goes, we can't give you Amin Thompson because this guy looks legit and like a star. So what about Jalen Greed? And I think Milwaukee goes, we don't want Jalen Greed. We're not as into that. And maybe... They agree on an Alperen Schengen. Sure. They meet in the middle, right? Which is, he's a great player.

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And that's, I think it would be a decent, obviously, get for Milwaukee, again, if they're trading a... And then in addition, you do have Tara Eason. You do have Jabari Smith Jr. You do have Cam Whitmore, who has shown flashes. You have Reed Shepard, who is the number three pick. Obviously, wasn't much of a role for him this year. So, like, you get a pretty good-looking deal.

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You have this team option still possibility with Van Vliet to make salary caps work. Excuse me, to make the matching salary is what I meant work. So... The Rockets, it makes sense. And we've heard, oh, you know, Kevin Durant sweepstakes, Devin Booker sweepstakes, you know, whatever other superstar. You're not going to do better than the Giannis as the superstar.

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So if you've like done it well and you've accumulated all this young talent and all these picks like that, that's the move you do, I think. whether or not the Bucs want Shen Goon or Jalen Green, I guess.

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Yeah. My one pause with, I guess, keeping Shen Goon and obviously him not being a part of the trade is like, not a lot of shooting there from your bigs in Shen Goon and Giannis. So you're going to have to like, obviously, and even Amin Thompson, if we're being honest,

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you know these are your three guys you got no shooting really in your forward spot so that's maybe why i could see him being included but uh rockets just make sense again these are just like we're talking out potential landing spots okay san antonio houston off the board you want to are you gonna go with the trifecta in texas here with dallas or uh they didn't make my list okay there's ways they could do it yeah but it's like you're trading nico harrison's favorite players to make it happen

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Yeah, according to the New York Post's Brian Lewis, the Nets have long been amassing capital with hopes of acquiring Giannis. And, yeah, look, you add Giannis to this team, I mean, almost it feels like any team or at least a team that wasn't in the postseason, it feels like an automatic 15 to 20 more wins if Giannis is healthy and playing for you. But... Yeah, you're right about the return.

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The players' return is, ugh, it's sort of gross for Giannis. It's all future first-round picks, with 13 of them being tradable. What it does check, though, Giannis to the Nets, is, well, does he want to play in a big market? He does. I'm sure he maybe would want to play for the Knicks, but they don't have any picks.

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They have no youth, so that's going to be obviously some more established players going for him if that were to happen, so maybe it's out of the running. And then when you look at L.A., you look at New York and L.A., right? And then it's like, what are the Lakers actually going to trade for him?

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Yeah, there's that one shot of him with a towel over his head.

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austin reeves and rui hachimura and you know like yeah it's basically the mark williams package yeah plus a couple of guys yeah i think you would need a third team to dance to make that happen so again you're looking at the big markets and like you start sort of eliminating some of these teams quickly and you get down to the brooklyn nets who could in theory do it but um it also keeps him in the east yes and we're hearing reports that he wants to stay in the eastern conference which i mean

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sure if you want to help your chances to win another title which he says that's what he wants this is the whole point of this if leaving milwaukee is to give him a chance to win a second title he will not be able to sleep at night if he retires there's only one title so you do stay in the east that's wise yeah that's why so okay brooklyn nets i had him on my list too um but i'm gonna go with a weird team for here for my next one let's go what about the detroit pistons

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Now, I do not think Milwaukee would want to trade with a divisional foe. It's a little strange. And it's going to Detroit from Milwaukee, so this is not your big city New York. They're obviously big city L.A.s, and that's maybe a part of the Giannis equation. But the Pistons have all their first-round picks in the next seven seasons.

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And so they're allowed to trade four and then they could swap in the other ones. A lot of draft capital there. Again, though, you're like, well, Giannis is on your team. So how great are those picks going to be? I get that.

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But they have talented players like in Jalen Duren, Jaden Ivey, Ron Holland, you might believe could blossom obviously into a player still, you know, a contract and a guy that sort of redeemed himself a little bit this year, Tobias Harris, and then picks. It's not the sexiest thing, but I like the idea of Giannis teaming up with Cade as your one-two. I mean, man, that is fun, fun right there.

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And maybe, you know, obviously growing off of this season. So I think it's far-fetched. I think it's very far-fetched, but I just wanted to include the Pistons.

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It would be bad. And a lot of teams in the West do have more talent. It hurts his chances to win a title because he's going out West. I'm sorry. If you're Milwaukee, you're like, okay. Well, we want a better return, man. So we're sending you out West. Okay. I'll take the Pistons. Fourth, I guess, overall.

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Let's do one more round. Who's your final team here in the landing Giannis sweepstakes?

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I love that thinking of getting your picks back. That's a big part of this. Like you see a lot of these teams without their picks are going, Holy crap. Like now that they're at a spot where like, Oh, we're not good. Yes. Damn. What are we going to do now? Uh, we have no picks. We can't like get better through the draft. Go for the plan. And like, man, can you get your own back?

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And we've talked about the sons with that and stuff, but, um, Okay, yeah, I'm just thinking Giannis on the Pelicans. It's weird. Yeah, it's weird. It's tough to picture. Do you like the Giannis-Eves-Meesee pairing? I mean, maybe Giannis on the Pelicans saves the Pelicans basketball in New Orleans.

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You don't think one of those guys are included in this sort of deal? That's where I was coming to.

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at least we're not screwed when they go poor yeah yeah i i have seen a lot of like uh hypothetical pelicans bucks trades with the honest and a third team involved which i you know it's in rerouting maybe some of these things which i could see as well so i like that all right my final team i'll do it

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I mean, I should just wait and see what happens in Game 7 on Sunday, but I've been saying it for a while that I think the Thunder will be players in this if they flame out here. We know they have the picks. They got a million picks. They can do that part of it. Why wouldn't you want to trade, or excuse me, why wouldn't you want to try and pair Giannis with SGA? Two guys basically in their primes.

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You just surround them with elite role players, which they still would have left over because they do have a deep team. Super smart front office. That's just a power move. I know it's not a Presti type of move, but we just always keep saying, when are you going to cash in all this stuff?

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And you literally wouldn't be able to cash it in for anything better than Giannis still in his prime with a chip on his shoulder to get a second title to try and take your team led by SGA to the next level. So... they could put a lot of stuff together. Now, I think the Bucs would go, yeah, okay, Chet Holmgren or J-Dub.

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And I think the Thunder, if they lose here, this is like obviously if they don't get to the conference finals, they don't get to the finals, they don't win the whole thing. This is a big part of it. They would have to consider doing it. And I would do it in a heartbeat. Either of those guys. Like that. If they don't win the title this year. Yeah. Can't disagree. You could get there other ways.

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If you could somehow keep all of that, wow. But like Hartenstein, Case and Wallace. Remember their last draft pick who's never played in the NBA? Yeah. Nikola Topic. What did he go, 10th?

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yeah supposed to be a top five guy yeah obviously just kept him overseas he was injured uh wiggins and other stuff like this multiple first rounders so you could get there other ways but i think it starts with a holmgren or a j-dub and again i would do either one of them for yannis so yeah and that's pretty good player for the bucks to get like that's an all-star young they're both still on their rookie contracts though they are going to be having to be paid pretty soon but uh

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Topic. Yep, Topic. So yeah, I'll go Thunder. But again, I got to just dig my heels in on this because I have been saying it for a long time and you're starting to see it more and more. And I think maybe that's because the Thunder are on the ropes here and could lose game seven on Sunday. Do you have any other wild cards you want to share here for the people?

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I know. It's sort of just like it's a version of Dame and Giannis, I guess, playing together.

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There's not a lot left over. But, I mean, obviously, just what it brings. Adding Giannis to a team like the Atlanta Hawks, that's an injection, obviously, into your franchise and merchandise and ticket sales and all that. So you sort of get it from the business side of things. Yeah. Yeah, that's a decent little package. Jalen Johnson, Risa Shea, and Dice Jones. Not bad. Okay, that's great.

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All right, drafting teams, hypothetical teams where Giannis is going to land. He'll probably just stay with Milwaukee. Yeah. That was all for not, but we had fun. Let's hear your favorite landing spot for Giannis in the stream team and in the comments. Okay, before we go here on a Friday, let's have some rapid fire fun. It is the drop after all. I'll ask the questions to the guys here.

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I'll answer along with you. First one, one of the biggest stories of the Sixers season was when Paul George shut down his podcast to focus on winning a championship. That was on February 26th. The Sixers were 20-38 on that date. Well, guess what? Podcast P is back! What else would you guys love to see make a triumphant return?

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That's all these games now. We were at the, I guess it was at Inman Park Festival, right? They had the parade. And there was, I think it was Atlanta United booth. They had something set up and they had a big screen. And it was FIFA being played. And I knew it. But I even knew it, and I'm like, holy crap, because I haven't played these games in a long time. I'm like, oh my god, this looks so real.

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The defense was frozen. Nope, he does this whole thing where he just flips it behind him, yeah.

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And there were two older guys than me, and they were like, they saw it, and they're like, oh, they were like, the game's on? Is the game on right now? And I literally had to be the guy to go, that's a video game. And they were like, what? And I was like, I know, man. Look at this. It's crazy, eh? It's crazy. It looks real. So real. Okay.

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My answer for this, things I would love to see make a return. NBA answer, competitive all-star game. Let's get there. One of these days, we'll have a close one. But I'd like to bring back Elf.

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Yeah, elf. I thought you said elf. I was like, what? No, not elf.

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Elf. Elf. Well, it's a fascination, yes, but, like, be honest. We have brought back every other goddamn show ever made. How has elf not come back? It just seems weird to me.

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I think they maybe on Melmac ate cats, if I remember correctly. That's his planet.

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Alright, next one here. Cavs owner Dan Gilbert loved the Cavalanche slogan so much that he paid more than $500,000 to install fake snow machines in the arena's ceiling that would blast confetti throughout the arena's bowl when the Cavs went on a huge run. The Cavalanche machine went off exactly once this postseason. Did we hear a single thing about this? I didn't know about it until this story.

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I know. Yeah, same. So I was like, what? It went off? Like, how did we not know about it? Anyway, the question off of this is, what's something you've spent way too much money on? Trey.

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Well, I'll say we saw your gym and I see now why you guys pay so much money.

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I guess I mean, the last gym or the only gym I've been to in the last like since moving to Atlanta is like the YMCA.

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I feel like we probably saw like a quarter of it. I didn't see like three quarters of it.

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Yeah, you brought up the two parts of this game, really, where it either got the Nuggets back into it or they took control. The end of that first half, massive, absolutely massive. Yeah, Dort hit the three right at the end of the first half to put them OKC up three to head into the locker room, but that was big because they were in the game, and then you said it.

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How much do you think a smoothie should cost? I don't eat smoothies, but I'm going to say $9? Yeah, for half of it. Wow. Okay.

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It's very refreshing. Oh, it is. What's something I've spent way too much money on? My answer for this is for a good, I don't know, 10 to 15 years of my life, warranties. Oh, man. I was one of those suckers. I was. Warranty on everything. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Better get the warranty. Oh, yeah. Something could break. It could break. Yeah. Better get the warranty. Yeah, it could break. Yeah, it's stupid.

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Took me way too long, though. Again, the problem is warranties for someone like me, where I think worst case scenario with everything. That's why I'm like a planner and I'm usually ready for anything. Because I'm thinking, what's the worst thing that can happen? I'm going to buy this. I'm going to take it home. It's going to break immediately. I think that way.

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I think the worst thing possible is going to happen. And then I go through it in my head. So a warranty, they get me. It's so easy. Yeah. And Nora's like, you got to stop doing this. Like, I'm the stupid guy that's like, you buy a flight and then they're like, yeah, you want trip protection? Yeah. For $60? And I'd be like, oh man, maybe should. Might want to get it.

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Because even when something happens where the warranty should be covered, you're not going to. Yeah, exactly.

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I am due for a new phone, so I guess I should get it. Maybe I'll get it. All right, final one here. Cooper Flagg was just as shocked as the rest of the country to learn that the Dallas Mavericks won the NBA draft lottery on Monday. Quote, I was surprised, like a lot of people, Flagg told reporters. It was kind of a crazy draft lottery. Indeed it was, Cooper. Any good lottery stories to share?

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from strother all three of those buckets from strother coming from jamal murray as well he had that nice little bounce pass like cross court bounce pass for the first strother three the second one jamal set up by attacking the paint sort of went under the rim found him in the corner and the third one was that crazy alley-oop where again strother did a great job he was in the corner and he saw the space open inside the rim jamal whipped it in there and yeah all in one motion turned around put in very fluid so that was huge because of what you said

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I know this is a weird question, but like either yourself or someone you know when it comes to any sort of lottery.

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And do we know how much? Like big, big money or? Millions. Like nine million. I would call that big money.

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And that was, you didn't have to, it wasn't a trivia question.

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If you're under the big tent, I would have thought there would be an elephant. Not that I don't think they should be, but back in the day especially. You would expect to see elephants. Yeah. Stand on a ball. Bow. Weird things like that. Somebody ride it maybe a little bit.

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by degenerates and grandmas yeah who buy lottery tickets great great uh love it learning things here my story just quickly is uh i only know one person uh that's ever won any sort of lottery it was a 50 50 raffle draw at a hockey game okay but it was big money like it was uh it must have been a professional game it's nora's cousin oh and uh i was like i remember finding out at like a christmas dinner once i'm like

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I then have a million questions. Oh, let's go. So anyway, it's the only person I know that's won like big, big money out of hockey. So what are we talking? Tens of thousands. Yeah. Yeah. It was, I think it was like, it was a huge one. It was like getting closer to like a six figures. Damn. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. For a 50, 50.

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We used to do those, like, Junior B hockey games. 50-50 raffle draws.

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Yeah, I definitely remember that. Those, like, little print tickets that you would use to, like, get a hot dog at, like, field day at school. It's the same thing. Hey, thanks for the garbage. I'll throw this away. Don't worry about it. All right, share your lottery stories. Anybody in the stream team right now won the lottery? Yeah. Let us know. Yeah, definitely let us know.

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You got to assume somebody right now watching live has. So let us know how you did and how much you got. Have you spent it all? Or what'd you do with it? Oh, that's always a fun one, right? Like you hear the stories like, oh, I won the... Somebody won the $400 million Powerball. And it's like... how do you want it? Do you want just $200 million right now up front? Or do you want it?

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They got Jokic more rest. And, I mean, it was apparent. Like, he came back energized, ready to sort of close the door, unlike Game 5, where he played the entire second half. He looked gassed. Adelman said it after the game. He was like... I probably screwed up there. Like I got to get these guys a little bit of rest.

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You're sort of like your entire 400 million, but like spaced out over time. And there's always those debates.

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Well, they say your move is to just take the lump sum and invest it wisely. And you're going to make more money off it. Yeah. But there's something pretty badass about just get like, actually not just coming into your bank account every couple months or whatever.

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Oh, he like did over, it took 10 years basically. I just spent it all just like raging. I just had a rage decade. Yep, and then went back to work. Wow, what did he do for a living?

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I don't know. Good for him. Hey, that's the way to do it. Have fun with it. Yeah, you're right. Let me watch the interest go up, up, up. No, man. Go have fun with it.

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all right we'll call it there rapid fire not so rapid but hopefully this drop was a classic you tell us we got a game seven baby on sunday we got a game six tonight in madison square garden the knicks trying to advance to the eastern conference finals the celtics trying to give us another game seven here's the plan we might go live tonight following that game if not tomorrow morning on saturday so we're gonna have a bonus podcast for you uh some point this weekend again either later tonight or saturday morning so keep your eye out for that make sure you hit the notification button make sure you subscribe

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so you know when new No Dunks drops. Good stuff, guys. We'll see you either later tonight or tomorrow, and then eventually on Monday. Till then, Clipper Bros.

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I know these games, like you don't want to take them off, but if you can give them just, you know, if it's 90 seconds extra or we can use our timeouts to get a little more time, he brought that up as well. So great job by him, but huge play there from the second year guard. And Struther, a guy like we had barely talked about. He had done next to nothing.

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Apparently it's Peyton Watson's, like, maybe agent or something, or related to Watson. That's a swaggy agent, man.

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I think he has some relation to Watson. I love when a role player's feeling it at home, big playoff game, where they come out of nowhere... Because he made some big plays, even defensively, and he hit another shot in the fourth there. I love when they start high-fiving fans courtside.

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I feel like we would all do that, because we're not going to be the superstar of the superstar, but you're like, give me a chance. Let me swing a game, swing a quarter in a playoff series. And hell yeah, he was loving it. High-fiving, chest-bumping everyone, going crazy. He maybe saved their season. A little bit. He maybe did. But, Jamal Murray, you said, 25 points, 8 boards, 7 assists.

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Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast presented by Amazon Prime. It's Friday, May 16th, 2025. This is The Drop. I'm J.E. Skeets here in the Classic Factory. Next to me, it's the bearded one, my top shot hot boy, Trey Kirby. Ayo! Ayo! And over yonder, making the magic happen, super producer J.D. Hello. There he is. Here we are. No task today.

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This guy was sick for 24 hours. I do like the part where it's like, luckily he woke up early enough to get the IV fluids, to get the doctor there, to get the medication going. And he started the game with a 4-point play. So that was a great start. Like, oh, God, this guy's sick. What type of Murray are we going to get here? But he was awesome. He had some of just beautiful finishes inside, too.

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And like I said, filled out the box score. Jokic, 29-14-8. Christian Brown, it gets lost, I think, in this game because of what Jokic did, what Murray did being sick, and then what Strother did. But career playoff best, 23 points and 11 boards? 11 boards is nuts. This is huge in a do-or-die game. So those four guys were like the stars there. While on the other side...

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Shea did his part, but got really little help. I mean, Cason Wallace I thought was good.

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Right, exactly. And he did that. But a lot of eyes, a lot of question marks around all-star Jalen Williams, who had six points on 3-16 shooting. And don't forget, he started the game 2-for-2. He hit a jumper when the zone was shown to them, stepped right into it, hit a jumper to start the game, basically his first shot.

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And then he had one where he like exploded in transition, caught Denver by surprise, nice finish at the rim. So what did he go after that? You know, I'm not good at math, but one for 14 after that. bad, bad game for them. You nailed it, though, math-wise. I nailed it math-wise, yeah.

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It wasn't because of my math skills, it was because of my charming personality. But he can't afford another game like this if they're going to win in Game 7. I think that's fair to say. 100%. He's had one good game really in this series, and it was the one in the loss where he went for 30-plus.

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But otherwise, failing to crack 20 points five times out of six in this series, and he's shooting 33% overall, 21% from deep. We're looking at games where he's 5-for-20, 5-for-14, 2-for-13, and then last night 3-of-16. These are Bible verses, Skeets.

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I think it's as simple as that. A lot of people are wondering if Game 7 is going to come down to Jamal Murray versus Jalen Williams. Like, who has the better game between the two? Because you feel a lot of confidence in Jokic, obviously, filling the box score, doing his thing. What's he going to do?

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Between 30 and 40 points, probably, and probably around 15 to 20 rebounds, and then all the assists. Okay, Shea's been pretty damn good. You can usually put him in pen for 31 points plus. So you feel good about that. So it may come down to the Robins there, like you said. A little bit. It might be that, and then maybe who's, like, the wild card factor. Who's your Strother?

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He's too busy being an awesome dad. Gotta do it. Gotta do it sometimes.

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Or who's... Dort was the guy. Dort in Game 5. Is there, like, suddenly a Wiggins game where he just hits his threes when he's out there? So, you know, this is the fun of Game 7. But, yeah, bad, bad J-Dub series. And it sucks because he had a bad series last year. But then he comes into the regular season, turns into a better player. Obviously, instrumental in 68 wins.

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He's an all-star for the first time. I think he's going to be named to an all-NBA team, probably a third team. But this again, at the biggest moments. And it's so funny. It's like... You can do all this stuff in the regular season, man. You can be incredible. And then you have a five or six game stretch in the biggest moments, obviously, against a team that won a couple years ago.

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Hello to everybody on YouTube. Hit the like button and subscribe. Podcast listeners, five-star ratings and reviews. On today's drop, we're going to take turns drafting the best landing spots for a potential Giannis trade. Slop season has arrived.

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And you lay an egg in a couple of them. People are like, nah, you're dead to me.

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Yeah, I saw a lot of people comparing them to James Harden. Yeah, I know.

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This really hurts because I know there are other people that are like, ah, no, it's all a mirage with this guy. He's actually not a second star or whatever, but we'll see what he can do in Game 7. I would expect him to bounce back. I would.

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That's a great point. Look, Denver also... They forced the issue last night. I thought they were consistently attacking OKC's defense. And they were putting some onus on the officials to make these calls because they were attacking. And you look at the box score, the Nuggets finished with twice as many free throws attempted there as the Thunder. So that's huge.

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Don't be too much of a homer here. Hey, hey, hey. I won't be. We got some fun questions in rapid fire. But first, you know what, JD? Give us the zaza.

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And will that sort of come back to normal in Game 7 when it's back on OKC's court? The shooting splits are wild for the Thunder in this series. Their true shooting percentage when they're at home in their three games, 61.4% true shooting percentage. When they were in Denver, the mile high altitude there, 48.7% true shooting percentage. That's actually a drastic, drastic difference.

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Yeah, it's small sample size. I get that. But that's huge. And they just couldn't shoot there. They didn't shoot at all very well in Denver. So they're going to hope that those numbers that I just gave you for their home shooting, It's a little more what they get on Sunday afternoon. Are you pumped about a Sunday afternoon game? No, not at all.

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Yeah, you're one of these people you like prefer a night game.

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He said other things in that little quick little post-game conference, like talking about himself personally, like I'm an educated, smart man, family man. It's like, yeah, all of that is true, my guy.

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But when you're doing this on the floor and then you're pretending like you're the victim, even though you've choked guys, stomped on guys, flailed like crazy, kicked guys in the balls, because you go up to the line and sometimes cross it, I just don't know what you're upset about. He was making it seem like Tyler Ford really had it out for him. But I look at it, and I want to hear your opinions.

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He seems to have the longest leash of anyone in the NBA when it comes to at least berating officials.

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So it's like Warriors fans and maybe some in the organization, they think because of Green's history, the league or officials are like a little too harsh on him when it comes to reviewing things and maybe punishing him with some of these like... I guess fringe plays, though this is not a fringe play. I'm sorry, you just elbowed the guy in the head.

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But yeah, the counter seems to be true to the rest of us. No, he actually gets away with a lot more than most people, at least when it comes to barking and stomping around and following officials because he thinks he's been wronged. It's weird. It's honestly, quite frankly, weird. Because he's not a 22-year-old, you know? It's like...

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Well, yeah, he's just a grown-ass man that can't, I guess, keep his emotions in check at times on the floor.

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absolutely that was that was i think a huge part of why kerr had to get him out of there yeah like forget even that game because maybe that one is a wash and it's like okay i'm playing every guy as it is but it's like oh god if he gets another tech or if he gets tossed or suspended who knows what he can do so he they did the right thing of course get curry to talk to him see if he can chill him out nope get him out just send him to the end of the bench

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Yeah, it's crazy. And again, I remember when we did our little preview for this series, I thought I got laughed at a little bit by you guys when I brought up, hey, something to keep an eye on. The guy's at four techs and two flagrants and whatever. He hits these quotas and you guys were like, oh, come on. See, he's not that close. The guy's probably going to get taught.

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This guy's just so unhinged, especially if Curry's not playing. So it's like, it's more likely than not that he'll hit it. If you're betting right now, would he hit the suspension mark for either flagrant points or tech points? Would you do it? Would you take that bet or you say, no, you know what? He'll just go right up to it and then he'll like keep it together enough.

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We've seen that before. Patrick Beverly, I think maybe.

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I think the question is, is it game five or game six?

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He has to tell us this every time. He hates it, yeah. But you're a comic book guy, though, I think.

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JD, you've got the photos here. We were joking or bringing up that Steve Kerr playing his entire bench. Everybody got a chance in last night's game, and it got so crazy that he was playing people I've never even heard of. I don't know this name down at the bottom here, as the chyron showed during the game when they're showing who's out there. What does it say, Trey? I can't read it.

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I thought he gave them something. Yeah, a little energy. I think he's something to watch moving forward in game three back in the Bay. Role players always play better at home, including that guy. Yeah, they're like, what? This guy's not in the scouting report. One guy who did play, I guess he played like 14, 15 minutes. We've talked about it before. Pat Spencer. Crazy number. His crazy mustache.

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A lot of people say he looks like Will Forte. Which I do see. In the mustache. Yeah, but I think it's a Will Forte had a baby with Rob Delaney. And then I really see it when it comes to Pat Spencer. So think about that next time you see him in game three. And then my final note... I can't stand when the home crowd is wearing like one color, right?

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They went with the whiteout in Minnesota, but then the road team is wearing that color. And we've seen this for decades in the NBA. I remember it was a big Raptors controversy way back in the day.

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And then the Nets showed up in red. I just like, I don't get it. It's like... You know what jerseys your team is going to wear, so why wouldn't you go with that color to all be on the same team? So if you're going to do the whiteout, that's cool with all the white shirts, but wouldn't you wear white then in that scenario? I just always found that fascinating.

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Because it looks like you're cheering for the Warriors. Anyway. Any other random notes or takeaways from this game or moving forward in this series? Yeah, spicy Mike Conley last night.

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Rough, rough Moody game. Yeah. I think, I don't know. Moody and Post to me are the two guys that I don't think Kerr is losing confidence in this series.

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Maybe by the minute here, and maybe it's going to turn to those other guys.

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Caught him by surprise. Definitely. I guess Julius Randall and Michael Irvin are really tight as well. He looks at him as a father figure.

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Yeah, so they have a connection too. So he's out there supporting the guys. All right, well, let's get to some big picture playoff questions here as we head into another weekend of some huge games for some of these teams. First question, play along in the stream team. TK, we'll start with you. What's been the wildest development of the second round, you think, so far?

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It's funny to hear, I guess it was Brian Windhorst, in talking about the Celtics at least, because they've led for so much of that series, but obviously are down 2-0. Quote, this is what Windhorst said, "...they're having difficulty coming to terms with what is happening." They don't understand why they're losing. They believe their process is working. They believe they're generating good shots.

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They are doing the recipe that delivered them the championship and 61 wins, and they are not getting the bake out of the oven like they are used to. End quote there. He had some funny other things to say about the Celtics. And they're just like, they're perplexed by this. Like, why isn't this working? It worked for the championship last year. It worked for 61 wins.

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And now it's suddenly we just can't hit a shot against the Knicks team.

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What is this illness that is limiting him here? It's just perplexing.

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So you're just saying Kuro approached this game like, let's find out who the hell's going to be playing in the rest of this series. And it's maybe looking like, okay, there's a role for Trace Jackson Davis. There might be a role for Kaminga. Post, maybe goodbye. Moody might be a little more limited. So he was just searching to see who might be some guys to play moving forward.

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Who's been the biggest unsung player of these playoffs so far? So we're not talking about the superstars like Ant and, you know, obviously your Tatums and stuff like that, Mitchell. But of the guys that are like, you know, a little lower on the pecking order, who's been an unsung hero to you so far?

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Yeah, they're like, oh, they're cutting them back. Amazing. I knew a Knicks player would be selected for this. You go with OG. I think Josh Hart could also be on this list as an unsung playoff hero. This guy, his durability, his all-around impact. He's hitting shots, which is obviously huge. You have to have Josh Hart out there for every other reason.

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Defensively, rebounding, just his scrappiness, his leadership. But then if he can hit threes... and actually score, you're like, this is gravy. So he's just been so good. He's had like every game in the postseason he's scored over 10 points, except one. There was one game that he didn't against Detroit. But so far in this series, he's been amazing, especially that last game hitting 3-3.

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Yep. Two more guys on the Pacers, too. Aaron Neesmith and Andrew Nemhard. Oh, yeah. It feels like almost like every postseason with the Pacers now. You can add these guys to the unsung players list, but those guys have been awesome. And they're a huge part of, like, when the calendar flipped in 2025 and those guys were back and they were a little more healthy and they're with the roster.

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Like, this is when the Pacers, like, turned into a whole different team. Turned into a really, really damn good team and they've continued to here in the postseason, so... They're obvious additions here to, I guess, our list, our sort of, we're making an all-NBA unsung heroes list at this point.

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It's a good one. Anytime he plays well, it feels like the Wolves win. He's like that ultimate sort of swing, sort of X-factor guy for them at least. All right, and then final questions here. Besides OKC, I'm just removing them from the equation here because we have some sort of weird sort of 2-0 deficits with these other good teams.

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Which team do you think is most likely to win the title besides the Thunder? So if you were like looking at the odds here. Or can you make a case that every team remaining still believes it still has a path to actually winning the LOB this season. And parody right now is pretty good or no.

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OK. I like this, man. This team is, yeah. They've been very good for a very long time. And they come in waves. They come in waves. They are relentless with how many guys they can play, how many guys can change a game. And then you got Halliburton to close it out. They start like the Knicks. I can't decide which one feels more like the team of destiny, though. Like these crazy endings to games.

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Is it the Pacers or is it New York coming back and pulling out some crazy victories? And even in those close games against the Pistons. And they both have a case for that. That feeling of like, oh, is this just their year to get there? You know what I mean?

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Yeah, and the case for the Wolves, like you were talking about, we haven't really seen a really good run of Anthony Edwards yet. I know he had one monster game, but he's been pretty damn quiet. Everybody else contributing. They're obviously trying to build on last season's Western Conference Finals appearance. So yeah, they make sense here. Maybe have been...

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gifted a little bit with the Steph Curry injury, at least helping their chances to get by. Nothing's done. It's a 1-1 for crying out loud right now. But I look at a lot of these teams, and I'm like, ah, damn. The Nuggets obviously have championship DNA still, and they have the best player in the world. So there's like, okay, that's a pretty strong case. I know they've got to get by OKC.

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The Wolves, for all the reasons we went over. The Warriors, I mean, if they can just get Curry back, you like that chance to get on to the next round. The Pacers you talked about, I'm with you, TK. The Celtics are the defending champs, and we are sort of waiting for the tsunami of three-pointers to maybe come, to maybe show up.

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The Knicks feel like the team of destiny, and then I guess the Cavs are oddly the one I have at the bottom of my list right now to win the whole thing. But they're a 64-win team, and their three guys are maybe coming back here for Game 3. So maybe I shouldn't be doing that. Just feels like it's not going to be them.

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Oh, God. You're right. You're right. And that's the only commercial we see, too. The Villanova Knicks.

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I guess he wasn't on any of the gambling lists, though. Even Nora told me, this guy came out of nowhere to win.

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What do you mean, came out of nowhere? She's like, ah, he wasn't a favorite.

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This guy's an NBA champion, and he's pumped that he walked 20 miles. We accomplished something great.

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And we do believe, because he wasn't live streaming the whole thing.

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The man did walk all 20 miles. He wasn't jumping in the car, going, go jump in the car.

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Drinks are flowing. I think I saw a clip he's in silk pajamas.

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Well, it better not get exposed. Like that's a big thing in the marathon world. There's like a guy, literally a good call. I think it's website is like marathon investigations. And he like looks into like suspicious times and like, hold on, how did they get that time?

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Cause usually their previous times, you know, he does the whole investigation, finds out a lot of people like cheating it or didn't hit a mat or whatever, like blah, blah, blah. So, Hopefully that's not the case. Get him on the case.

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Paul Pierce, I believe you that he walked it. All right, let's go from worst of the week slash best of the week to five-star Friday reviews. Oh, baby.

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come to a show we'll be alive and live all at the same time very nice review beautiful I'm always I gotta say though I'm always amazed when people say like I go back and listen to old shows Sure. I guess I understand it for like me, like maybe a beach step in. Cause they're like at times a little more evergreen, a little more silly.

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And we're talking about random things, but like there are people that just straight up go back and listen to like talking us, us talking about old basketball games.

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I love Tess's, that being said, I think. That being said is a good one. That's a classic.

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I said perplexing like three times today for no reason. That was perplexing. Yeah. It's when you get one in your head, it's like, I don't know, you just keep running with it.

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Yeah, okay, okay. That sounds about right. Yeah. Jason Coppola. Comes up every once in a while.

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That one's the one I remember. Okay. Thank you. That's it. Good stuff. That's five. Awesome. Thank you for all of those five-star reviews. Keep them coming if you haven't done one already. They do help us out in terms of rankings. It's always fun to get some of them on the show. Before we go, rapid-fire fun. JD, you got the questions this week, my man.

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I guess I'm going to sound like Kelvin from The Righteous Gemstones, but give me a treehouse. Very cool. I would love to live in a treehouse. I love heights. I love nature. I love the, you know, I like things made of wood, I guess. I don't know. That's all about it. I would live in a treehouse, I believe. I'd be okay with that.

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It's got like Macaulay Culkin or like Home Alone vibes sort of in a weird way, too. Sort of trap doors and you can bring things up so people can't get up.

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No, I was thinking, well, if I'm living in this, I need probably windows. There's like some here, like in the Georgia area, like Airbnbs you can go stay in. I've always wanted to do it. Never have yet. One of these days. Like a treehouse. Yeah, it's like a really nice treehouse.

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I never thought of it called a gazebo on the beach for some reason. It's more of a hut to me. Interesting.

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You got a lot of room, too. A ton of room. A ton of room.

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Okay, what's another legendary podcast that definitely won't win the Golden Globe for podcasts? I guess the easy answer is probably No Buffs or Is This Good? Part of our No Dunks universe here. But let me go with the long-time running wrestling podcast known as Cheap Heat.

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oh yes i'm a fan of cheap heat peter rosenberg dip stack guy greg they're great they do recap wrestling but do they not really they'll start a podcast 30 minutes talking about bagels and it's fascinating so uh i love it i think it's hilarious but uh yeah They're a great sports and entertainment podcast. They say the world's best. But will they win a Golden Globe? Probably not.

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I only watch your premium live events. Your WrestleManias, your Royal Rumbles, but never through the week.

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like celebrities smart list yeah smart list you know how mad I'll be if the first one goes to smart list oh really I'll just be furious be furious I think it's a possibility you mean the one that's hosted by three well respected actors yeah that one I wonder if they'll win yeah apparently it costs money to apply for all this and stuff I was listening to another podcast about this that's another reason we won't it's like $5,000 just to apply like to get it in there the Golden Globes are weird I guess about this stuff but anyway

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They have to muck up the game and keep it. It's got to be the 90 to 95 type of game here and that they can then maybe pull out in the end. I'm with you. Can they slow the Wolves is what we're getting at here because as much as we want to say, yeah, Jimmy's got to shoot more and score more and man, he's got to be like turned into Donovan Mitchell.

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Just a few I want to give a shout out to. We were there all weekend, so we got to see a little bit of Montreal. Had fun strolling Mount Royal Park with friends and family going through the park there. Right there in the middle of the city. Beautiful park. Beautiful weather we got to.

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Where he proposed to Jill. That's right. Now, we weren't at the exact spot where it happened. It's a big park. Yeah. But still, beautiful park. All of the wedding speeches I thought were bangers. Yes.

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Incredible, incredible speeches from family and friends. Matt's grandmother walking Jill down the aisle. Oh, God. That was my first good cry. First good cry of the night. And then also meeting people I've never really met or maybe only knew online to come to mind. Matt's cousin-in-law, Brandon, who we learned was a diehard Basketball Jones fan.

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Before Matt had even really joined the show, he knew of the show and is a diehard NBA fan. So that was sort of cool to meet him. And then Daniel Ralston. who was on Is This Good? I know. Yeah. And did his own great podcast. Hey, that won't win a Golden Globe, but it maybe should.

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Go check that out. Awesome guy. Oh, yeah. Like so fun to talk to. Such a fascinating guy. So just meeting those people. And then I guess last part, just living on the dance floor because we were out there for hours. Felt like I just danced for five straight hours. Yeah. And maybe I did. So lots of great moments.

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which obviously came in a loss still to the Pacers, but he's got to get to the free throw line a ton of times and obviously just take a ton of shots. Yeah, I get it. But even still, I don't think the points are going to all add up when you take Steph out of this offense.

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And you brought it up earlier, the, I guess, emo punk or pop punk section. That's where we lost our voices. Absolutely.

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That was awesome. And some people were confused. Not tutor as in drop and farts.

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So it's like, you've got to do it defensively, which they did in the first game, which they were missing Steph Curry for half the game. Now part of it was just the Wolves couldn't hit threes. And you said it. Dante hit a couple. Nas obviously hit three more. To kill Alexander Walker, by far his best game. At least offensively, maybe he's ever played in the postseason because he's just struggled.

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Another good part, after the wedding, after whatever time we got back to the hotel, 3.30, getting the text from Matt, what room are we going to? Was like, oh my God, this guy's still going. And so we all went up to, I guess, Grandpa Zach's room and hung out for another couple hours.

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This was more regular season. Nah, he was good. But can they do it? Can the Warriors obviously just keep this thing and turn it into a grind? And a part of that is Jimmy just putting pressure on the Wolves defense, I think.

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I was going to say, would Matt's note be, you know what? It was a little too long. The whole thing was a little too long.

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And the bar was open very late still, and we were still dancing, so... great wedding we had time in our lives and we were still feeling it days later so hopefully everybody else is getting a little healthier after that I know some of our other friends were still I mean they may have got sick I guess is the issue yeah All right, that's Rapid Fire. Not so rapid. Got in a little wedding talk.

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I'm sure some of you enjoyed that. Lots of games on this weekend. Two on tonight, two on Saturday, two on Sunday. And it's Mother's Day weekend as well. So happy Mother's Day to all the moms out there. Keep your eye on our podcast feed and our YouTube feeds or maybe some weekend shift podcast talking about some of these games if they're very entertaining.

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Otherwise, we're back on Monday to recap it all. We'll see you then, Clipper Bros.

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He wants a medley of your moms. Thanks for the weekend, people.

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Good morning, sweet world, and welcome to the No Dunks podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Friday, May 9th, 2025. This is The Drop. I'm J.E. Skeets here in the Classic Factory, and alongside me, as always, Tass Mellis. True basketball lovers and mom lovers, this one's for you. Next to him, it's the bearded woman, top shot hot boy, Trey Kirby. Ayo. Ayo.

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Julius Randle, I thought, set the tone, though, in this game. He had a really good game. 24 points. One of his best games ever. 11 assists, I think, has got to be a playoff career high, if not tying one.

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But yeah, scoring in the post, obviously doing his little bully ball thing, had the jumper, feeling comfortable with that, did hit a three, two, and a lot of that was in the first half that got them that lead. And I love how Finch is coaching this team. You're right, you bring up like, holy crap, he was pissed a couple of times. Just like defensive lapses.

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Like, guys, pull your head out of your ass. Like, we're down 1-0, here's an opportunity, no curry. This is a must-win game is the way he's approaching it. Obviously, that was like the post-game comments after game one, and then it led into this one, so... coaching him hard because he knows it's right here and this is an opportunity to go back to the conference finals and if not further so

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But yeah, we'll see. It was funny just to see so many guys coming in for the Warriors.

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Yeah, and I guess after the game, Curd sort of confirmed what we were talking about. He said, quote, part of the game plan coming in was to play a lot of people, and we did. We have to figure out what we're going to be able to do in this series without Steph. We gave a lot of people a lot of chances, and some guys really stepped up. And again, I think who he's talking about there, Kaminga.

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who was a part of the comeback there for a little bit, right? A couple dunks. I guess there was a Draymond Steele, and then a buddy hit a corner three, and suddenly it was a seven-point game. And then Trace Jackson Davis, who he's talking about, who did bring it, at least energy, on both ends of the foot.

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Scary moment midway through the second quarter, you said it there, Tass, when Anthony Edwards hit the floor because he had his left ankle stepped on by Golden State's Trace Jackson Davis. And the crowd, man, the crowd went quiet because he was really holding on to that thing. We had that sort of like brutal shot of Ant, you know, getting helped back to the locker room.

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And I think everybody, I don't know about you, but it's like... You're going, oh my God, is Anthony Edwards now out of this series? Is it taking out the superstars on both sides? But he comes back after the break and he obviously looks completely fine. He looked okay for a guy that had his ankle go like this.

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And over yonder, making the magic happen, super producer, J.D. Heller. There he is, and here we are. Hello to everybody on YouTube. Hello, podcast listeners. We got a fun drop for you today. We're going to answer some big-picture playoff questions. We got Worst of the Week. We got Five Star Friday reviews, plus a little rapid-fire fun at the end.

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Second time this postseason where you looked at an injury, it looked like an ankle injury. Remember when LeBron rolled on him? I'm like, oh, that looked bad. Obviously continued to play. So good for Wolves fans that he at least came back and led the team in scoring in the second half.

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I thought he looked nearly spry for a guy that had his ankle rolled.

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One big takeaway from this game involves Draymond Green picking up another technical foul with about 8.45 to go in the second quarter. Green had the ball. Nas Reed up on him, sort of reaching for him. Gets the foul called on him. But Draymond Green couldn't help himself. Had to flail his arms. Just goes nuts, flailing everything, and he pops Nas Reed in the head. They take a look at it.

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They decide, okay, foul on Nas Reed and a dead ball technical on Draymond Green. His fifth technical foul of the playoffs, too short of the automatic one-game suspension, and he went nuts. He went livid after the call, really going after referee Tyler Ford and just barking and barking to the point where Steve Kerr was like, we got to get him out.

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He's not starting to chill out here, and he's probably getting himself tossed, so we just take him out. Jimmy, I think, came in, tapped him, and then he went back, and obviously he's yelling at the crowd. Steph talked him down. That's right. I forgot about that, too. And he was so, so angry. And after the game, he gave a quick... post-game guest interview. He had a statement.

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It was like 15, 20 seconds long. The main takeaway, he said, quote, the agenda to continue keep making me look like an angry black man is crazy. I'm sick of it. It's ridiculous. And then he sort of walked off from the scrum. And that was sort of all he said about this. Uh, your thoughts on Draymond Green, fifth technical foul, the incident. You think they got it right.

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And obviously how he reacted in his postgame comments.

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But first, we start with the lone game last night, and it was the Timberwolves tying their second-round series comfortably.

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on thursday night defeated the golden state warriors 117 to 93 at the target center dubs were obviously without steph curry who was ruled out of game two with the grade one hamstring strain but tass i thought the wolves you know felt the urgency and they responded because they started this game up 13 to 0 and it took a while for the warriors to even hit a bucket and then at the end of the first quarter 29 15 and i know it got a little close but then they pulled away

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Okay, correct me if I'm wrong, but like four or five days ago, did he not apologize to his own team about sort of like going a little overboard with his emotions in the last series against the Rockets? We know he's had like the anger management sort of classes dating back to the things he got into with Rudy Gobert and all that stuff. Yeah.

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Here's the thing. We've had to win in so many different ways all year. We've had so many weird wins during the regular season, during the playoffs. Why would that change? Because we're here in the finals. It's not changing. We just keep staying at it and just keep believing. That's the result we get.

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You heard it here first. Have a great time. Turn up. Love you guys. Awesome. Thanks for joining us.

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Yeah, not much. Just been chilling here with Rex. Look, Rex, say hi. Say hi, Rex. Look who it is. It's your favorite person. Look, look, look. Yeah, buddy.