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What's going on guys? Welcome back to another episode of the Bryce Crawford podcast. I'm Bryce and today by the title of the episode, you guys know we're going to be talking about how to overcome anxiety. This is something that's near dear to my heart and I want to share this before we get into this. This is the heart of every podcast episode we do, not just this one.

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Where am I going to go after I die? We're going to cover all of this. The first scripture I want to talk about right now is Proverbs 12, 25. where it's laid out pretty clear, anxiety weighs a man's heart down, but a good word makes him glad again. It is no doubt if you struggle with anxiety, I think we can all universally agree that it is wear and tear on your mental and physical.

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I mean, it is no doubt, it does something to you physically. When you're anxious, you don't wanna leave, you're worried, you're confused, you don't wanna make the wrong move, so it's like you just wanna stay in bed, you wanna rot, and it kinda can put you in a depressing mood, anxiety can, and then mentally, like it just drains you, man, you just get tired.

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Physically and mentally, and it's so draining. And Proverbs is right. Anxiety weighs a man's heart down. But I love the back half of this verse. It says, What could a good word be? There's no amount of self-help books that you can use to make your anxiety go away. There's no amount of alcohol that can numb the pain of your anxiety. There's no amount of drugs.

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I don't want you guys to ever think I'm preaching to you. Oftentimes the things I'm saying every time are stuff that I need to hear. So rather the podcast episodes, these are just an invite of things that the Lord is teaching me and things that I'm learning about myself and situations I'm going through. And so today we're going to be talking about anxiety.

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There's no amount of sex that can numb the pain of your anxiety. So what is the good word that's gonna make your heart glad again? The good word is the good news of the gospel.

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The fact that we have a suffering God that understands our anxiety, that understands our worry, because he lived in the sinful, wicked world that we did, except perfection humbled himself and became a human and lived a perfect life in this crazy, sinful, suffering, wicked world.

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And then he died on the cross, defeating our anxieties, defeating suffering, defeating worry, defeating sin, all on the cross. And then he resurrected. resurrected from the dead, defeating death, defeating sin, defeating suffering, defeating anxiety. The good word is that. It's the gospel. The gospel has this generational impact from old to new.

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It doesn't need to progress and adapt to society's culture, and it doesn't need to revert and retract or remove a little bit less. It has generational impact before us and after us to come. The gospel is good news every day. It's not something we listen to one time. We go, all right, I know this. I don't need it anymore. No, the gospel is good every day.

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And to be honest with you, the days that Bryce is having a sucky day, the days that Bryce is having anxiety creep on him, the days that Bryce sins the most, the days that Bryce is having a hard time is the days that Bryce doesn't preach the gospel to himself. I have to preach the gospel to myself every day. And this is a call to you. You've got to preach the gospel to yourself every day.

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The gospel is good news, and the gospel, love for Christ, love for what he did for us, should be our driving factor. Anxiety, fear about the outcome of something, fear that no one loves me, fear that I'm not valuable, fear that I'm going to do this, fear that this is going to happen to me, is all trumped by the fact that Christ handled it all.

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Anxiety directly correlated to fear, but this fear can be fizzled out when we know the truth of who Christ is and what he's done for us. It's powerful. And that directly correlates to 1 Peter 5 and Psalms 55, 22. What do both of these scriptures say in common? Cast your anxieties on the Lord. Cast your burdens on the Lord.

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What does it mean when the Bible says cast your anxieties and burdens on the Lord? It means give it to him. Here's a story from Luke chapter eight that I think correlates well with these verses. See, Jesus says to his disciples, hey guys, we're gonna go to the other side of this lake. They go, okay. They get on a boat. They start sailing to the other side and the storm arises. Jesus is asleep.

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This crazy storm arises. This is and that, blah, blah, blah. And they think that they're about to die and they wake up Jesus because they're like, dude, are you kidding me? You're asleep in the storm. What are you doing, Jesus? Do something, we're about to die. He gets up, he calms the storm and he looks at them and he says, why do you have little faith?

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Now, when we read this passage, we go, oh man, Luke chapter eight, man, why did Jesus, like, that's kind of insulting. Why did Jesus say, why do you guys have little faith? No, the reason he asked that question is at the very beginning, before they get on the boat, he tells them that they are going to the other side. He goes, hey, we're going to the other side.

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God set me free of crippling anxiety right when I was 17 years old, the moment I encountered the Lord. But I'd be lying to you if I told you that I don't have anxiety that creeps up on me. So we're going to look at scripture and what Jesus says about dealing with anxiety and look at a specific passage in the Bible where we see the disciples go through deep anxiety and what Jesus does about it.

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They get on the boat, the storm comes, and they're not even focused on the promise that Jesus has given them. They're focused on the storms and trials and the anxieties. I'm about to die. What's going on? And Jesus says, no, no, no. It doesn't matter how hard the storm gets. It doesn't matter how hard the trials get, how hard you suffer. If I've made you a promise, I'm going to fulfill it.

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I'm going to fulfill it. And so when the Bible tells us to cast our anxieties on God, Psalms 55, 22, cast our burdens on the Lord, it's saying give it to him because he's already handled it. God, thank you that you're a promise keeper. Thank you that you got this under control. And thank you that you answer my prayers and my situations, whether I like the answer or not. God, you've handled it.

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Thank you for who you are. Thank you for the cross. I love you, Jesus. That's what it means to cast your anxieties on him. Matthew 11, 28, Jesus says, come to me, all who are weary and heavy burdened, and I will give you rest. The reality of anxiety and pressure is that you were never meant to build the pressure. The reality of this is that you were never meant to handle the pressure and anxiety.

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So give it to him. Jesus' yoke is easy and light. That's the crazy thing is the yoke was a farming tool that you put on. It was like a heavy farming tool. And whenever you're trying to carry this anxiety, carry the burdens of your life, carry your sin, whatever it may be on your own, it weighs you down.

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But when it says take on the yoke of Christ, the yoke of Christ is actually removing the burden of anxiety and sin and suffering and giving it to him. That's the yoke of Christ. Putting on Christ's yoke is actually giving him all your junk. And that's what gives us rest, knowing that he's handled it.

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Knowing that he is a perfect almighty God that humbled himself and came down on this earth so that he could bear the burden because he did on the cross. And we got to give it to him. Why are we still carrying something that was killed on the cross? Why are we still carrying this junk that was killed on the cross and defeated when he was raised from the dead? Philippians 4, 6 through 7.

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I love this verse. We're going to break this down. Paul writes, now keep in mind where Paul is writing this from. Philippians is considered the book of joy, and he's writing this from prison, okay? He says this, do not be anxious about anything.

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in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to god stop right there before we read verse seven what is he saying he says do not be anxious about anything but in everything okay not just anxiety but with everything prayer and supplication there's a call for prayer and supplication and importance of this we made an episode on the power of prayer a while ago you guys can go check it out but not just for anxiety prayer praying to god and asking god to do something specific about your situation

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But specifically with anxiety, he's asking us to pray. Pray to God. Talk to an all-knowing God. There is an action step on us. Yes, God knows exactly what we're going through, but he wants us to go to him because it's personal and there's a relationship. Go to him. Pray to him. What does supplication mean? Supplication literally means to ask God to do something specific about your situation.

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God, I'm anxious about this. God, do something about it. I'm your child. You said you would take care of your children. Do something about my situation. And then the back half, with thanksgiving. When we make requests known to God, we do it without grumbling or moaning or complaining about our situation. Despite the outcome, whether it's what I want to hear or not, God, thank you for who you are.

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It's going to be super cool. I'm going to end the episode in a unique, different way, but I'm going to pray into the episode just asking God to move in our hearts today as we listen to it. So Jesus, thank you for today. Thank you for who you are. Thank you for the cross. God, thank you that. All of our anxieties and worries, you've handled it.

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Thank you for what you've done for me. Thank you for the cross and thank you that you've handled it. I love you, Jesus. Amen. Let your requests be made known to God. Then verse seven, this is what I love about it. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

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Jesus Christ will give you a peace that does not make sense to your brain, but will totally flood your heart with love and peace and tranquility and contentment. The peace of Jesus Christ will totally offend your brain. It does not make sense to your brain. but it calms and soothes your heart and makes your heart glad. I have a deep fear of flying, okay? I hate flying. I have deep plane anxiety.

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Daniel, Josh, Dylan, they all make fun of me. They crack jokes at me because we fly all the time and I have deep fear and anxiety of planes. It's like the moment I get in the airport, the day before the flight, when I'm on the flight and I was flying back from North Carolina to LA with Daniel and And we were on the plane and we had really bad turbulence. And I'm not gonna lie, I was freaking out.

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I was gripping the seats on the handles. I got my eyes closed. I'm shaking a little bit. Maybe it might've shed a couple tears if I'm being completely vulnerable. And Daniel's cooling on the flight and I'm freaking out, all right? I'm freaking out. Now, why am I freaking out? It's because I'm afraid. I'm afraid of something that I can't control. I'm afraid of the outcome of the situation.

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And I'm talking to myself right now, like, man, Bryce, I really need to hear this. And then there was a moment on the plane There was no self-help book. There was no amount of facts. It was safer to fly in the air than it is to be on the highway. There was nothing that was helping me in my situation. And I literally go, I need my dad. I need my dad. I need my dad. God, I need you. God, I need you.

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God, I need you. And then all of a sudden I wasn't shaking and I wasn't gripping the thing and I was calm. And my tears went from tears of fear and sadness to tears of joy and gladness of Wow, God, thank you that in the middle of this thing that feels unconquerable, God, thank you that you give me this peace. And that was the moment. It was the peace that surpasses all understanding.

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The peace that just does not make sense to my brain because Bryce is deathly afraid of planes, but I'm super calm and composed, not out of my own strength, but I'm calm out of the strength of the Lord, knowing that despite the circumstance, I can't control it. God's got it under control. And God loves me and he'll give me a peace. And all I had to do was just call on to him. That's a crazy thing.

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It's like when we go through things and hard times or trials come, it's like, oh, let me call my friend or let me call my mentor or let me make a post on my private story on Snapchat about this to gossip about it. It's like we want to do everything first other than I need my dad. I really need my dad. When anxiety comes, like go to your dad, go to Jesus. God, I need you. God, this sucks right now.

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Do something about this. Man, this is awful. I mean, really, how many hours do you add on to your lifetime by worrying? You don't add any hours. It's like you lose time, you lose willpower, you lose strength. And the reality of it is there's no amount of worrying that will do anything about your situation. When are we going to understand that worrying doesn't do anything?

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Whether we like the outcome of it or not, you've handled everything. So God, thank you for that. We love you. Allow this episode to impact my heart and strength and my relationship with you alongside everybody else listening and watching. God, we love you. Thank you. Praise you. It's in your name we pray. Amen. Guys, we're going to read into the Bible about how to deal with anxiety.

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Like Bryce, when are you going to understand, Bryce, that worrying doesn't do anything about your situation? Oh, where am I going to go when I die? Christ has paid the price. It's in him that we find eternal life. What am I going to do about money this month? God takes care of his children. Don't be greedy. Just trust in him that he's got it. God, I'm losing my friends.

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What am I going to do about friends? Find friendship in me. God, God says find friendship in me. Look for friends that love me. Good company. I will give you new friends. I will mend your friendships. God, what do I do about my family? My family's broken. I can't do this. God, I got this for you, my child. I got you. That's why I want to close with Matthew chapter six. I'm not going to explain.

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I'm not going to break down what each word means and the Greek of this and that, whatever, like we did in Philippians. Instead of praying to close, I'm going to read this passage. And if you're watching this or listening to this, whatever you're doing, I want you to stop right now and let the words of Jesus Christ comfort you in the midst of your anxiety.

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Therefore, I tell you, do not be anxious about your life. what you will eat or what you will drink, nor about your body, what you will put on? Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing? Look at the birds of the air. They neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they?

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And which of you, by being anxious, can add a single hour to his life span? And why are you anxious about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow. They neither toil nor spin. Yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

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But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is alive and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? Therefore do not be anxious, saying, What shall we eat? Or what shall we drink? Or what shall we wear? For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all.

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But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you. Therefore, do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble. To close this episode, I just want to say,

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But what exactly is anxiety? Anxiety is directly correlated to fear. And anxiety, I would describe it as the fear of an outcome of a situation, of a person, of something. So anxiety could be correlated with something like, I don't have money to pay my bill. Anxiety could be correlated with, what is this person going to say about me at school? Anxiety could be correlated with,

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For someone personally that has struggled anxiety for a long time and even had crippling anxiety for a portion of my life, I always thought God was mad at me when I was anxious. And so whenever I heard the words, don't be anxious, don't be anxious, I thought God was shunning me for being anxious. But God isn't mad at you when you're anxious.

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When Jesus says, don't be anxious, he's not shunning you or scolding you. He's actually saying, you don't have to be anxious. You don't have to worry. I've got this under control. So to you, my friend that struggles with anxiety, like you don't have to be anxious. You don't have to worry. Trust in the unwavering and the firm foundation of the words of Christ. He's got it under control.

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I love you guys. Pray this episode to encourage you guys. Be looking forward to next week's episode. We've got an amazing guest coming on. I love you guys. Subscribe to us. Follow us on everything Spotify, Apple, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Bryce Crawford Podcast. I love you guys. Pray this to encourage you guys. See you guys in the next episode.

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I have a huge announcement before you guys continue to watch this episode of the podcast. Guys, May 18th, we are doing our second live podcast show in my home state, Atlanta, Georgia. We're going to be at the Cobb Energy Center May 18th for worship and a powerful word. Guys, I am so excited to be back in the same city that God took me from death to life.

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Whatever it may be, pray and ask God, how should I support Jesus in the street ministry? Love you guys. See you guys next week for the next episode.

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So what does James mean in chapter one when he says pure religion is visiting widows and orphans in their affliction? What he's saying is he's saying that pure religion is doing. He says, pure religion isn't talking about how holy you are because that's what the Pharisees do. Pharisees are all talking. So many people are too tired of hearing people talk.

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They said, I want to see someone actually live it out. And that's what I love about Jesus Christ is he shows us that it is possible to live the gospel out, to live righteousness out. He doesn't just tell us how to do it. He shows us how to do it. He shows the Pharisees up in his actions.

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And in today's society, we can let our actions speak louder than words and show that we really believe what we say we believe. Now, Matthew 22, the context of the passage that we're going to be looking at, verses 37 through 40, is the Pharisees are trying to get Jesus to say that one commandment is greater than the other out of the 613 laws and 10 commandments.

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Because if Jesus says one law is greater than the other, they can arrest him for blasphemy and kill him. They're looking for a reason to get him tied up. And they say, okay, Jesus, which is the greatest? And this is what he says. He says, you shall love the Lord your God with your whole heart, soul, mind, and strength. And then the second is just like it. Love your neighbor as yourself.

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Jesus Christ does not say that the good life is more money, more fame, more status, more women, more boyfriends, more girlfriends. He says the good life is loving God and loving people. Now, the last solo episode we did, we talked about, does Jesus really love you? And he does. We went over that passage of loving the Lord your God with your heart, soul, mind, and strength.

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Now we're going to talk about how to love like Jesus. And then he says the second one is just as important as the first, loving your neighbor as yourself. Why does Jesus say loving your neighbor as yourself is important? Okay, well, first off, we know the Bible tells us that the goodness of God brings man to repentance.

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If you guys want to come out to the Hometown Live Podcast Show May 18th, go to Ticketmaster and search up Bryce Crawford and get your tickets today. Guys, I'm looking forward to seeing you guys on May 18th. Go to Ticketmaster, search Bryce Crawford, get your tickets to the live podcast show May 18th. Love you guys. Now enjoy the episode.

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When people see this unconditional, no strings attached to love that you show to other people, That can be the God people experience. Someone asked me, we've been doing a little side quest. We've been going around to college campuses and talking to students, and it's been a big blessing. And I had quite a few people ask the same question.

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They said, well, you know, my friend has been going through some side of suffering or experienced trauma or been hurt by the church. And because of trauma, church hurt, or X, Y, and Z, they say that they can't feel God and that God doesn't love them because they can't feel them. And this was my response to them. I said,

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Well, maybe they can feel God through you when you are the first to love them, the first to shoulder that they are there to cry on, the first one to serve them, the first one to check in on them, the first one to pray for them. The way people can feel and experience God is through the love human beings show because they love God and love people.

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Now, what does Jesus mean when he is saying, love the Lord your God with your whole heart, soul, mind, and strength? What does he mean when he says, love your neighbor as yourself? Jesus Christ is saying, when you see yourself the way that God sees you, then you begin to realize that he sees everybody else the same way he sees you, valuable, free, clean, and his son or daughter.

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And so because of that, you begin to love people with the same value insight that God sees you as valuable. which is so compelling and magnificent because in today's society, love is hindered. Like people don't love each other unless you do something back. Oh, well, I'll love you if you scratch my back or I'll do something for you if you do something for me. That's the sin of partiality.

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That's favoritism. And Jesus actually says in the gospels, how easy is it to do something good for someone when they've done something for you? And then he even gives us this example. He says, which one of you is going to give a stone to a little one when they ask for a fish?

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What he's saying is, if you're not even a Christian and people know how to give good gifts, then how much more good gifts does the God of heaven and earth know how to give? The point I'm making here is that when we see ourselves the way that God sees us, then we begin to have the same eyes God has for us for other people. And then we begin to love people unconditionally. We begin to serve people.

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We begin to serve people. we begin to sacrifice time for people. Now, when we look at the gospels and we look at Jesus Christ, so in the gospels and in the Bible, the body of Christ, the body of Christ being Christians, Christians are considered the bride of Christ, okay? And Jesus being the bridegroom. And when the Bible teaches us what it means to

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love the bride, the Bible tells us that we should love people, love our significant others the same way that Christ loves the church. So if we're supposed to love people the same way Christ loves people, then how are we supposed to love people? We're supposed to love people unto death. What does it mean to love someone unto death?

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That means no strings attached, no hindrance, no holding back, means I'm all in for people. People are valuable. Sacrificial love. The Hebrew word for God's love is ahava, which means to lay your life down for someone.

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what's going on guys welcome back to another episode of the bryce carver podcast i'm bryce and today we are back with another solo episode talking about how to love people like jesus how do we love like jesus love now look before we get into the episode guys i pray and hope that the last few episodes have been a blessing we've had some amazing guests on the past three four episodes so guys

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And because Jesus Christ's faithfulness, because God's faithfulness has been shown to us, it's easier for us to be faithful to God and people because he has shown his faithfulness to us. And so because God has shown us that how much he loves us by laying his life down for us, that in return, we lay his life down, we lay our lives down for him.

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But because we're laying our lives down for Christ, that means we lay our lives down for other people. Because they're his children. Love the Lord your God with your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and then love your neighbor as yourself. Love people the same way God has loved you. All in. Let's flip a couple chapters later. Matthew chapter 25.

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The passage that I'm about to read, if you guys know Matthew chapter 24 and 25, Jesus talks about the end times, okay? And We've always been in the end times. Let me preface this, okay? We've always been in the end times. The end times is the period in which Jesus is supposed to return a second time. So the apostles were in the end times. Billy Graham was in the end times.

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We're in the end times, okay? So this is applicable today. This passage correlates to Revelation, not only, but this correlates to everyday life. Now, aside from us have always been in the end times, we can look at the world the past, you know, one, two, three, four years and say, Dang, it's been really crazy.

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And there's been a lot of suffering, and there's been a lot of birth pains, and a lot of craziness going on. Okay? And in Matthew chapter 25, Jesus gives this comparison with sheep and goats. He says, Okay? In Matthew chapter 25, Jesus is given this description where he's separating the goats from the sheep. And he goes to the people on the right and says, you are blessed by me.

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You inherit the kingdom of heaven. The people on his right are the sheep. And he says, for I was hungry and you gave me food. I was thirsty and you gave me a drink. I was a stranger and you welcomed me. I was naked and you clothed me. I was sick and you visited me. I was in prison and you came to me.

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Jesus says to the sheep, in every circumstance of my being, you've seen me and served me and loved me. You are blessed. You inherit the kingdom of heaven. And then it says that the other group, the goats, they say, Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you or thirsty and give you drink? When did we see you a stranger and welcome you or naked and clothe you?

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When did we see you sick or in prison or visit you? It says that Jesus will respond. As you do to the least of these, you do unto me. And the holy conviction that sets in when I read that scripture to think that today's society teaches us, oh, don't talk to the homeless man. All he wants is money. Oh, don't talk to the homeless lady over there.

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She's just hooked up on drugs and that's just who she is. And she's never going to get by that. Or, oh man, did you hear what Sally did last Friday and Saturday? Oh, she's awful. That's all who she is. Man, today's society labels people for their sin or labels people for their struggles. And Jesus Christ says, no, no, no, no, no.

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You see, you judge people because you thought they weren't valuable because you didn't think they were mine. But he says, what you did to the least of these, the least of these, those who are hungry, thirsty, naked, a stranger, the sick, the imprisoned, those people, Those people are mine. Why are they mine? Because they're made in my image. People are valuable because they're made in their image.

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Please let us know what episode was your favorite and why. We're super pumped, but I'm happy to be back with a solo episode. I pray this one is so specific to your situation, but today we're going to be in the Gospel of Matthew, two different sections, Matthew 22, verses 37 through 40, and we're going to be in Matthew chapter 25 here in a moment.

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Every human being has the same value before God's eyes because they're made in the image. They have his imprint on their life. And he says, look, listen, when you choose to show partiality to people because you don't think they're valuable because of their physical status, are you kidding me?

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Jesus says, what you do to the least of these, the way you treat those people is the way you would treat me.

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And the way I look at my life and think, man, all the people I've looked past because I thought they were not valuable because of the physical structure they offered or because of their physical well-being or because I thought they were too far gone because of their addictions or because of their struggles or because of their sins against the government and sins against the world because I thought that they were unvaluable because of the things that they've done.

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Are you kidding me? And then I reflect on my own life and I think, man, I'm just as bad, if not worse, than these guys. Like, sure, I haven't murdered, but Jesus says, if I'm angry at a brother, then I've committed murder in my heart. I'm just as bad. Or maybe he says, well, you know, maybe I haven't cheated on a significant other. I've never been unfaithful.

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But man, he says, if you look at someone lustfully, you've committed adultery in your heart. I mean, like, man, I'm just as bad as these people. But Jesus says, how you treat those people is how you would treat me. What does it mean to love like Jesus? It means to see everyone as Christ. To love like Jesus is to see Christ in people even if they don't know him because his imprint is on their life.

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To love people like Jesus is to fall at the feet of those who are in need and who are hungry and who are thirsty as if it is the feet of Jesus to say, I'm going to serve you and love you unconditionally because the love of Christ is I'm going to serve you and love you and be there for you even if you never return it back to me. I'm going to do it for you because that's what Christ has done for me.

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I mean, Jesus Christ loved people and offered his life for people that aren't even going to turn to him. Jesus Christ offers love to people that are going to say no and that have said no. Jesus Christ is on the cross in between two dudes where one dude is denying Jesus and the other dude is saying, no, Jesus, you really are who you say you are. And he died for both.

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We're going to talk about how to love like Jesus, and I think this is very important because so many people think, oh, what does it look like to have pure religion, pure religion? What does it mean to be a Christian? James chapter 1 does not say, Hey, pure religion before God is talking about how holy you are.

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And you know how well Jesus Christ loved? Jesus Christ loved his disciples so much and loved his enemies so well that they didn't know who was going to betray him until he physically passed the bread to Judas. To love Jesus Christ doesn't mean just to love like Jesus doesn't mean just to love people that love God. It means to love people who don't love God.

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To love like Jesus love means to love people who hate you. To love like Jesus loved means to love people who love you and hate you, to love people who are sick and healthy, to love people who are good and bad in quotations, to love all people. To love the Muslim, to love the Buddhist, to love the Hindu, to love the atheist is to love like Jesus would. But here's the catch, guys.

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This is how I want to close. Just because Jesus sat with sinners and loved them doesn't mean he endorsed their sin. In the same way, the love of Christ is going to offend people's brains to get to people's hearts.

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God is going to use you to offend people's brains to get to their hearts with the love of Christ shown through you so that they know that they're valuable, but it calls them out of their lifestyle sin, it calls them out of the deception, or it points their eyes to the real God of the universe. That's what it means to love like Christ. And so I want to close this podcast out by praying.

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But I want to pray that God gives us two things. Number one, the eyes to see Christ in all people, to see people the way that he sees us. But number two, I want to ask God to give us strength to love people unconditionally because we can't do it alone. Jesus, I thank you so much for today. God, I thank you that you love every human being just as much as you love me. God, we ask for two things.

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God, would you give us the strength to love people unconditionally because we can't do it alone. We can't. We need your strength, God. And God, would you give us eyes to see Christ in everyone, to see people the way that you see us? God, would you give us these eyes so that we could treat people with this unconditional love that they've been so lovesick for, that they've been desperate for?

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God, would you give us this strength in the eyes to see people that way? And lastly, God, let us not take for granted every opportunity to love people. Waiter, waitress, Uber, friends we've known for years, strangers we've never met. God, let us love everyone in our lives and everyone that we will encounter the same way. No strings attached. God, we thank you, love you, and praise you.

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In Jesus' name, amen. Guys, thanks so much for watching and listening to the episode. If you like it, subscribe. Follow us on everything Bryce Crawford Podcast. Appreciate you guys. Love you guys. And see you guys next week for the next episode. Guys, thank you so much for watching and tuning into these episodes.

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Guys, if you love watching and listening to these episodes, aside from following us along on Instagram, TikTok, Spotify, YouTube, I want to ask you guys, would you guys consider partnering with our ministry financially? Your guys' radical generosity is actually what continues to fuel and produce these podcast episodes and our evangelism videos.

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Jesus and the Bible does not tell us that pure Christianity is talking about how holy we are, how much good we do for God, how many devotionals we've read, how much of the Bible we read. The Bible does not say that is what Christianity is. The Bible says that Christianity is visiting widows and orphans in their affliction.

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So if you guys feel a burden to support this ministry, reach lost souls with the gospel through digital and in-person ministry, go to jesusinthestreet.org. pray and ask God, how should I partner with Bryce and their ministry and Jesus in the street ministry? Should I partner with them in prayer? Should I partner with them in finances? Should I partner with them in support?

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What's going on, guys? Welcome back to another episode of the Bryce Crawford Podcast. I'm Bryce, and today, I have an awesome guest on today. We have MTV Jesse on. How's it going? That's the only thing I really know how to call you by, MTV Jesse. What's your last name? Sebastiani. Sebastiani. Yeah, super Italian. Wait, so what's your Instagram handle, MTV Jesse?

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And that's when I would get to really know who Jesse is. So I was like, well, maybe I don't really know who God is. And so I kind of freaked out because I had this weird supernatural encounter, spiritual moment. And I kind of ran to my car and I'm crying. And I said, OK, Jesus, if you're real, take away my anxiety and depression, because this is the whole reason why I want to take my life.

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So if you really care about me, take this away. I haven't had anxiety or depression since that day. And so that was my entry point into Christianity. Okay, I didn't ask Buddha. I didn't ask Allah. I didn't read a self-help book. I didn't do any of that stuff. I specifically asked Jesus to take it away, and he did. And so that was my entry point.

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So I think people believe things not only for emotional evidence or experiential evidence, but also for logical evidence. And so through that entry point, I began to look at who's this Jesus guy, not just from like, oh, I'm trying to pass a quiz or test in my Bible class in my Christian school.

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I was like, okay, I'm actually looking at this because I want to know if this guy really is who he says he is. And that's when I went into the entry point of like researching his teachings and his life and if this guy really was who he says he is.

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Like nowadays you don't really hear, like, I mean, you do kind of hear like, oh, Jesus wasn't a real person, but it's kind of a foolish thing to say because outside of the Bible, there's so much historical evidence that he was a real guy. So the issue wasn't now is, oh, was Jesus real? It's, is he God?

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That's the whole foundational thing about Christianity is, was this man who walked the earth really God? Because if he was really God, then it kind of demolishes everything else and everything. And then it means like it's the cornerstone of our belief. Like, was Jesus really God? Did he raise from the dead in his physical body? If that happened, then he's the truth.

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If Jesus did nothing but die, then he's no different than you and me. So it's interesting how like you're.

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So let's take what you called the sign from today. Don't waste your time. Don't waste your time. Don't waste your time. Take off the headphones. Trainer's like, hey, don't waste your time. Starts the class. Okay, great. Well, let's just take it from the Christian POV right now because I'm a Christian.

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What if this whole conversation is finding out that you're valuable and that you have a purpose and it's time to stop wasting time? Yeah. What if? What if that? What is that? That is nothing. Like no one directly said, don't waste your time with Jesus. But what if that is directly correlated to that? You never know.

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That's why I'm not denying that, you know, there could be a truth that signs are coming from. But then you even acknowledge, I don't even know where these signs are coming from, what it could be. God can use signs. God can use people. God can use conversations. God can use words.

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you can look at a flower and go, how does this flower have a system called photosynthesis that keeps it alive and healthy? Who did that? Like you can't just look at this house and go, oh, it wasn't here yesterday, but today it's here. You'd be like, are you kidding me? There was a maker. Someone intelligently created the plan design for this house. And then people came and built it.

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So it's like, you can look at everything and go, who did all of this? And it's so perfect. Everything's so complicated, but so many specifics. If we were an inch, if we were a mile closer to the sun, we'd be scorched to death. If we were a mile further from the sun, we would freeze to death. So everything's so perfect and orbit and balance. It's like, man, that conversation is the one that.

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I can't be offensive about this stuff. If you're curious, you know, that's what, yeah. Okay. There's no way to be offensive about it. If you're curious. Yeah.

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You're in your own way a little bit. Yeah. But I don't know. Yeah. I'll never encourage anyone to follow religion. Like when I say like I'm a Christian, I'm like, it's like there was this one time this guy got angry at me. He's like, man, you're just religious. And I was like, I'm not religious. And he's like, what? And I get what people say when they mean, oh, religious. I get it.

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Yes, Christianity as a label is a religion. But I love how Jesus takes on this aspect of following him. Because you have him in this time period in history where the...

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there are these guys called the pharisees and the sadducees they're the religious people so the religious people that are waiting for this messiah that jesus claims to be they thought that this messiah was going to be a guy who was just like them who came from this royal rich family who just despised sinners who despised people that were awful people and was kind of be like you ever seen those street preachers that got like pitchforks and signs that are like turn or burn

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They just assumed that the Messiah was going to be like that guy. That guy that came from a rich family, wanted nothing to do with sinners and everything like that. Then you got this Jesus guy who was not born in a rich family. He was born in a horse-feeding trough. He was born in a horse-feeding trough. And he comes from this town, Nazareth. And everyone's like...

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Yo, anyone that comes from Nazareth is a fool. The people from Nazareth are stupid because he was a Jew. So in this Jewish culture, he's like people are like anyone that comes from Nazareth is a nobody. And then any time that these religious people would come around, he would almost tell them, you've got it wrong. and he's always hanging out with the sinners.

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So they had the tax collectors, which were the rich sinners, were essentially people that took advantage of their own people for more money. So selfish gain. And the regular sinners, which was, there was a law, like a moral code, and if you didn't follow the law, you were a sinner. They called you a Torah defiler. That was the name of the law, was the Torah.

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They were like, you're just a good old-fashioned sinner. And Jesus would spend time with these guys. And the religious people hated it. And Jesus looks at them and says, the healthy don't need a doctor. The sick do. What he's saying is, when's the last time you've been healthy and called your doctor and go, hey, bro, I'm doing great, man. Yeah, I'm feeling good.

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I need to come in and see you because I'm feeling great. No one ever does that. Call the doctor when you're in need. And he's like, the only way these people are going to know to stop doing what they're doing is if I meet them where they're at. So when Jesus is spending time with them, he's not endorsing what they're doing, but he's saying, look, I love you.

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This is not how I created you to be like, come out of this lifestyle. And so whenever these religious people come around, Jesus was never the type of guy to go, oh, shoot, where's the back door? Let me get out of here. I can't be seen with these guys.

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No, he actually loved spending time with them because he knew, like, the only way to show these people that the way that they were living and the things that they were doing was wrong was if he spent time with them and actually showed them how to live it. So, like, yes, there is a law. There is this moral code. But there's this moment.

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This is why, like, I think this is my main reason why I love Jesus is, like, these religious guys are like, Jesus, what is the greatest law? there were 613 laws that these people had to follow to be considered righteous good people. And if you didn't follow one, you were unrighteous and you had to sacrifice an animal to basically pay for the sins.

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And so people were just in this constant state of having to sacrifice animals because there had to be a payment for wrongdoing. It's kind of like the justice system. If you murder someone, there has to be a punishment. For sin and wrongdoing, we deserve death, but the animal would be the payment for death instead of your own life. Does that make sense? Yeah.

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So like these guys challenged Jesus, they're like, which is the greatest law? Because they knew if they could get him to say one law was greater than the other one, that that would be a no-go and they could kill him for it. And Jesus responds to them by saying, you shall love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength.

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And then they don't do anything about it because Jesus summarizes all of these laws, 613 laws, 10 commandments under this one truth of, if you love me with your whole heart, you will naturally obey me. So now it goes from the standard of shooting at like an archery target. Like I've got to be this good person. I've got to be this good person. It's like, no, I'm going to love Jesus.

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And because I love Jesus, I'm going to naturally obey him the same way I listened to my dad. I don't listen to my dad because he's got a gun to my head. I listened to my dad because I love him and I want to listen to him. Yeah. And in the same way, I give up certain things and don't do certain things because I love Jesus. And I really believe he's the truth.

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And if I love Jesus, I'm going to not do certain things. And I am going to do certain things because I care about him. And I think he's beautiful and magnificent. He's amazing. And he's who I want to be like. And he calls people to be like him. And so that is like... That is why Christianity offers something that's not like a structured religion. It's this relationship.

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Jesus is like, hey, follow me. What he's saying is like, spend time with me. And when you spend time with me, you will become more like me. So almost like how you look up to an idol or a big brother or like, yeah, like you're just or even your friends. Right. Yeah. Like who you surround yourself with is often who you become.

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And so, like, I don't know, you know, if there are times in your life when you were hanging out with the wrong crowd, you were doing wrong things. You can go, OK, well, maybe they had a big part of it. OK, well, when I spend time with Jesus and I read the Bible, I'm like, OK, I'm more like him.

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And sometimes the Bible is intimidating and I'm like, I'm not going to understand this whole thing and things like that. And I feel like that. And then I have to remind myself like, okay, this Bible is a love letter God wrote to me to show me how he intended me to live. And to show me the knucklehead mistakes other people have made.

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and how to steer away from those mistakes, and to show me how to live my life, and it's been a beautiful way to perceive the Bible instead of this rule of cage. It's like, all right, Jesse, if you don't do this stuff, you're a bad human being, and that's it. Like, okay, sure, but there's also this aspect of, that's not encouraging at all.

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I think in the Bible, the book in the Bible that I love the most is the book of John. So there's four gospels. Like a bunch of people think this Bible is like the spiritual book. It's a, it's, it's like a history book. Like it's stuff written in there is legit history. Oh, so it's just like what happened? There's a lot of that.

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There's a lot of like, so then you have like Psalms and Proverbs, which is like Psalms is a guy named King David where he writes like prayers and songs to God, Proverbs, the wisest guy ever lived, King Solomon, he's writing wisdom.

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So there's an aspect of that, but like there's a lot of Old Testament stuff that's like history of like, okay, like Moses came and did this and Moses got the law and this is where we got the law and commandments. God gave it to Moses, then Moses, like there's history in there. But the gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are four POVs

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of Jesus, his teachings, his life, what happened on the cross, him rising from the dead. And it's not that they contradict each other, but it's almost like having like CNN, Fox News, CBS, and like, you know, whatever, another news station recording the same story. You know, CBS might give an extra detail that CNN didn't know, but it doesn't mean that it's wrong.

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They just had a different perspective. But I love the book of John because John was like Jesus' best friend. And he was at the foot of the, like he was right in front of the cross when Jesus is dying. So I think his perspective is super amazing, easy to understand, things like that. So I think like that in the Bible. And that's just a piece in the Bible?

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Yeah, so the Bible is like a compilation of books. So it's 66 books in total confined into one leather bound book.

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like i never knew that yeah yeah so it's like all like all this um like it's just like a bunch of like history and the gospels and then so it's like before jesus came jesus came and jesus is coming a second time and so like it's um or it's like it's like before jesus came jesus came explaining why jesus came and then he's going to return a second time and it's uh Bro, the Bible is so helpful.

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So like a lot of people complain, they're like, man, God's not speaking to me. But we have the Bible. And it's super helpful. So like a lot of people's problems and like issues are like firsthand or I need help advice here. I need this and that. Like the Bible answers a lot of that. Yeah. And there's also stuff that it doesn't cover because, you know, it's not going to cover everything.

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But it covers everything that we need. But like there's sometimes we go through things where like, well, the Bible's not super clear cut on like I'm having this issue, specific issue right now. But there's things in the Bible that can aid to that. And then on top of that, The Bible tells us that as Christians, we have the Holy Spirit, which is God's spirit that lives in us.

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that was encouraging for you because that was your passion and not a lot of people in your small town like that.

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And that can actually give us strength to stop doing certain things or to do certain things or to comfort us. And I think like even to like Jesus, they call him the Prince of Peace. And the Bible says that Jesus can give us a peace that surpasses all understanding. So this is helpful because I used to struggle with anxiety. Anxiety is like in your head and you're feeling crazy.

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Well, Jesus would give me a peace that did not make sense in my brain, but would make sense in my heart. So I'd be in super high intense anxious situations and I would be super peaceful. And how so?

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How would you pinpoint that? I think it can be both. I hate flying. I have bad plane anxiety because I think the planes are going to go down.

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yeah especially with all the stuff in the news it was like freaking out it's been kind of crazy yeah so i was freaking out and i was on the airplane flying back and i was freaking out we had like turbulence for like an hour straight it was bad and i'm like grabbing onto the seat and freaking out everyone's pretty cool but i'm freaking out i'm closing my eyes and then all of a sudden i'm like

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God, I really need you right now. I really need you. I really need you. I really need you. And I'm praying. And then all of a sudden I start feeling peaceful. And as I'm feeling peaceful, I begin to think, I'm like, okay, I can't control what's happening in this plane. Yeah. But. But Jesus, in the Bible, he's our protector, our comforter, and our peace.

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And if I really believe that, God, please give me peace right now in the midst of this, it's not making sense in my brain. And then I slowly start calming down. It's not making sense because I'm still thinking about what's going on. But for some reason, I start calming down because I'm asking God, God, help me, God, help me, God, help me. And then I start thinking about the Bible.

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Scripture also helps me comfort me because we believe that it's the truth. So if the Bible is telling me something that contradicts how I feel, then it's like, what am I going to believe? This feeling? Feelings can be very misleading, too. It's like, oh, you make me angry, I'm going to murder you? Well, that's not a good feeling. I really shouldn't feel that way. This is how I feel, right?

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But I shouldn't act on that. In the same way, this truth of Scripture, where Jesus has this beautiful passage in Matthew 6. Jesus' words himself. He says, Do not be anxious about anything, what you will eat, what you will drink, what you will wear, Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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Yeah. Dang.

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Thank you.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Was, was any sort of like God or anything in the picture when you were younger too, or not really, you just kind of like,

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Thank you. Thank you.

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And then he looks at it and he goes, okay, there has to be a payment. There's gotta be a blood payment. These people are sacrificing animals. There's a name that Jesus has called the Lamb of God. They would sacrifice lambs to pay for sins. Jesus is considered the Lamb of God. So think about this. As I'm telling you this, I want you to think of all the crap you've ever done in your life.

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All the crap that you think is not worth you being loved, all the crap that you think is not worth people being friends with you, all the wrong you've done friends, family, people, bad decisions you made, imagine that. I know when I imagine that, there's a scroll that is endless of the amount of things I've done wrong. Said, done, thought, felt, everything.

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And Jesus, if Jesse was the only person that had ever done anything wrong in the world, Jesus would come, live that perfect life, and the ultimate display of love is Jesus dying for you. That's the important thing, is how do we know that God loves Jesse? The value that Jesus puts on Jesse is his own life. He says, I'm willing to die for Jesse so that we can be friends. Think about that.

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And then that's like you murdering someone, going on trial. They say, you're sentenced to life in prison. And then someone randomly walks in the courtroom and goes, I'll do your sentence for you, Jesse. Go and live your life. That makes absolutely no sense. And it does not make sense. And Jesus says, I'm gonna die for Jesse. I'm gonna defeat the very thing that separates him from me, sin and death.

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So he defeats sin by dying on the cross. He kills sin on the cross. And then he defeats death by raising from the dead. He defeats it by conquering it. He raises from the dead. And so knowing that Jesus loved you enough to lay his life down for you is very important because he's God. So when he was on the cross, I want you to picture this. He's stripped naked in front of everyone. Humiliating.

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That's why we wear clothes. No one walks around naked because it's somewhat humiliating. He's stripped naked in front of people. He's mocked. They whip him 39 times.

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Why did he do that? Yes. So, well, the Bible tells us that it, like I said earlier, like there has to be a payment for sin. So it was in God's will that Jesus died for humanity because there needed to be a payment. But how it led up to that point,

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was um the religious people were trying to catch jesus for talking bad about god blasphemy like saying another law is greater than another law or doing things and so they were trying to arrest him well anyways they decide to arrest jesus one of jesus's own close followers handed jesus over betrayed him okay betrayed him got him arrested and every year these jews jesus was a jew they had a holiday

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where they would release one prisoner from Rome. The Roman government reign, and they would release one prisoner. And the guy in charge at the time, Pilate, they're like, we need to kill this Jesus guy. And he's like, I don't see anything wrong with him. He didn't even do anything wrong. So I'm not gonna kill this guy. He's not on my hands.

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So then he goes out to the crowd of people for the tradition. He goes, all right, guys, we can release one prisoner. You got Jesus, Pilate, who's the son of God, claims to be the son of God. And all Jesus has done is he's like healed people, opened blind eyes, opened deaf ears, pulled people out of a crazy lifestyle.

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And then you have this other guy named Barabbas who was arrested because he was a rebel against the Roman government. He was a murderer. Some documents say this guy was a rapist. This guy was the worst of the worst. And crucifixion was like the electric chair. It's like the death penalty. The worst of the worst. Get this. If you got crucified, you were the worst of the worst.

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Yeah, it wasn't just like this randomly happened to Jesus. It was like ultimate punishment. And you were put on display in front of every people to be like, look at how bad these people are.

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Yeah, literally kind of like that.

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Crucifixion was the ultimate humiliation and was the ultimate punishment for wrongdoing. So if you got crucified, you had to be the worst of the worst. And so Pilate's like, all right, who do you guys want to release? And it's basically like, do you want to release this Barabbas guy who was a literal thug and a murderer and potential rapist and a rebel?

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Or do you guys want to release this Jesus guy who really has done nothing wrong?

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Now, a week before this trial happens, these people in the crowd were literally worshiping Jesus. And a week later, they're in the crowd and they go, kill Jesus. Kill him. We want the rapist, the murderer, and the rebel guy. We want you to release him. Kill the guy we were just worshiping last week. That goes to show how the opinion of man changes so fast.

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People's feelings and opinions change so fast.

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Well, you know, people, we have free will. We can choose to do things. So the people chose in that moment that they wanted the rebel, the murderer, the potential rapist released. They wanted to arrest Jesus. They could have been convinced of different things. You got the religious leader shouting, this guy's blasphemous. He needs to be killed.

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So, you know, you have a bunch of different factors in, right? Mm-hmm. But we have to understand there's also this human aspect. Jesus is God in the flesh. So if he's really God, he could stop all this from happening. But Jesus didn't say silence. So this is why I think if someone accused you of something wrong, you'd be like, yo, I didn't do that. That's not me. You'd plead your case.

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I didn't do that. I didn't say that. I didn't do this. They're accusing Jesus of stuff he never did, and he just doesn't say a word because he knew that there had to be a payment. This is deeper than him being accused. To him, this is deeper. He says, I've gotta do this for, to make it personal, Jesse. Gotta do this for Jesse, because I love him.

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So I'm just not gonna say anything, because I really love Jesse. So they take him in the public, they strip him butt naked, they throw him on the ground, and they beat him with a whip 39 times, called a cat of nine tails. It was a whip that had strings attached to it that had shards of glass and rock and nails. So when they would throw the whip down, it would kind of wrap around your back.

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And when they pulled it off, the nails and stuff would grip your flesh and it would rip the flesh off your back. He got beat 39 times. He had no flesh on his back, bones, muscle, tendon showing. The Bible and historical documents say that Jesus got beat so bad that he looked like an alien. He didn't even look like a human. He was unrecognizable. It was unreal. They called him the king of the Jews.

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They were mocking him that they created this crown of thorns and they pressed it into his skull to make a skull bleed. And they made him carry this 300, 400, 500 pound cross up a hill. made him carry his own electric chair. Now, think about this. He had just gotten arrested. So if you got crucified, you would have been in jail. You would have been preparing your own cross.

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So Barabbas, in his instance, he knew he was getting crucified. He would have made his own cross that he was going to get nailed to. So whose cross did Jesus take? He took Barabbas' cross. He took the one that Barabbas prepared for himself. And he's basically carrying Barabbas' cross. That's what our sin does for us. We're preparing our own death punishment with our sin and wrongdoing.

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And Jesus says, I'll take it for you. So he's carrying this cross. They drive nails through his wrists, nails through his feet, and they hang him on this cross. And in this moment, he's being humiliated, naked, bleeding, mocked, can barely breathe, looks unrecognizable to man. He's not the only one hanging up. There's other thieves hanging up. There's other criminals hanging up next to him.

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All right. And there's this moment. There's this moment that these thieves have. There's two, one on his left and one on his right. And one-on-one shoulder goes, dang, dude, if you're really God, get us down from here. I'm tired of this. This sucks, man. Get us down. If you're really God, do it. And think about that. I mean, that's like Jesus, like what he could have done.

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He could have stopped everything right there, but he's not because he's thinking of Jesse. He's like, I got to do this for Jesse. This is deeper than that. And then you got the other thief who looks at Jesus and he goes, oh my goodness, this guy really is God. And he looks at Jesus and he has a different response. He says, Jesus, I'm sorry. I messed up. I screwed up.

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I had some really bad stuff, obviously, because I'm here right now on this cross. And he's like, I don't deserve anything from you. Will you just remember me when you get to heaven? He doesn't ask for a favor. He doesn't ask to get down. He doesn't ask for a handout. He goes, God, would you just remember me? I'm sorry. And Jesus looks at that guy and he says, today you will be with me.

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Now, there's this pause here because it's like, oh man, what is going on? Why does Jesus need to die? He needs to die because there has to be a payment for our wrongdoing. Someone has to pay for what's been done wrong. And because Jesus is perfect, he can cover the payment for everyone. But there's this Bible verse that says we look to Jesus Christ as the perfecter of our faith.

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who, it says, for the joy set before him, he endured the suffering of the cross. So Jesus suffered this brutal punishment in his flesh because there was a joy that was greater to him than his own needs. There was something that was keeping him on the cross to go through this punishment that was greater than him getting down for himself.

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There was something that Jesus was thinking about, imagining, feeling in his heart that was greater than this guy on his right that's like, yo, get us down from here. You can do it. You're God. What kept him from biting into that? It was picturing friendship with Jesse. It was picturing friendship with Bryce.

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And when I think about that, that Jesus was willing to suffer so bad just because he wanted to love me. Unreal. Like, come on. Like, all these other religions. Oh, work your way. Work your way up. God will like you if you do enough of this. Or you'll achieve ultimate enlightenment if you do enough good. But if you do enough bad, karma's going to come against you.

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And it's a bad, bad day for you if karma comes after you. Yeah. Where Jesus is like, uh-uh. Done with that baloney.

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He didn't have to. He chose to. Love's a choice. And that's why the love's genuine. Sorry to cut you off. No, keep going. But be like Jesus. Like in that. Yeah. If Jesus forced you to love him, it wouldn't be genuine.

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That's like a dictator. Yeah. Like in North Korea, Kim Jong-un forces everyone to love Kim Jong-un. Yeah. Whether they feel like it or not. That's not love. That's a dictatorship. Apparently it doesn't poop either. Yeah. It's not love. No. And yeah. I mean, that's just it. It's really like love. Motivates everything and makes it genuine. And God just respects the choice that we make.

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Yeah, absolutely. Like the faith. If you really believed in Jesus, like if you tried to be like Jesus. Yeah. You would have faith that he really is who he says he is. Yeah. So why would you listen to Jesus over Mother Teresa? Or why would you listen to Jesus over Gandhi? Or why would you listen to Jesus over this guy or this guy or this guy or your own feelings? Yeah.

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Because there's some part of you that kind of has faith that he really was God. Yeah. And that his way is better.

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What do you think happens when we die? like zoom out from like no bias, what have you believed? What do you think happens when we die? You're not gonna like it. You don't like it?

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That it goes all black? Yeah. A lot of people believe that. Yeah. It's called nihilism. That's the fancy word for it. But it's just, like, it all goes black.

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And... Like, again, I have so many friends that aren't Christian. It doesn't offend me when people have different perspectives, but all my friends that are like, yeah, it just goes all black. I'm like, well, then like life has no ultimate purpose if it goes black.

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So if that is true, right, if life goes all black, then it doesn't matter if you murder someone or rob a bank or whatever, because then it's like, where did morals come from if it just goes all black? Who sets the moral standard? And then some people could say, oh, well, I'm a good person. And people have their own truth. Everyone's truth is true.

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Well, it's like, well, if we're getting really intense, some people think it's okay to go to Taiwan and have a nine-year-old prostitute. And they think it's cool. And other people would be like, heck no, that's not cool. Well, if everyone's got their own morals, you can't tell anyone that they're wrong. You see what I'm saying? So it's like, where does morality come from?

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Where do these things... These are the questions that I asked when I first became a Christian. What do I think happens when I die?

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There has to be a standard for morality. And if it goes all black, then you have this thing called the fertilizer pit where everyone goes under the ground. That means that Mother Teresa and Hitler are in the same place right now.

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that's weird to think about yeah because we're like yo hitler was a bad dude well this is another belief of what happens no no this is if we if you stay consistent like if if everything goes all black yeah then hitler and mother theresa are in the same place yeah hitler and abe lincoln are in the same place ted bundy murderers the worst of the worst are in the same place as

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Abe Lincoln, Mother Teresa, all these things. So then it's like, then that also makes people kind of feel weird. Because then when you think of a guy like Hitler, you're like, well, that dude obviously needs to be held accountable for mass genocide and killing a bunch of people and being wicked. And it's like, okay, all right. So it's like sometimes we have to take things to the extreme

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of understanding like what we believe, like when we get down to it, because some people are like, oh, you know, like, oh, like, I think everyone's good. And it's like, what do you think murder's wrong? Do you think rape's wrong? Do you think theft is wrong? Okay, there's people that don't think it's wrong. So it's like, where do we get all this from?

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And so like with God, he's like, God is both a loving God and he's a just God. So God is loving where he sends Jesus to pay the price. but he's a just God in the sense that heaven and hell are a justice system and a choice. So as Christians, we are justified by going to heaven because Christ made the payment for all of our wrongdoing. So it wipes our slate clean as if we've never done it.

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Jesus makes us righteous, not our own works. Bryce can't work his way to heaven. Jesus makes me righteous. Now for the people that say like, I don't want to believe in God, nothing to do with it, blah, blah, blah. It breaks God's heart. but he respects the choice in the sense that you chose not to be with me. So hell is separation from God. So it's like, you chose not to be with me.

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It breaks my heart, but I respect your decision. I'm not going to force you to follow me. It's there. But hell is also a justice system. It's for those that need to be held accountable. So one day the Bible tells us, and I believe that we're all going to stand before God.

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And there's no words that I can say. There's nothing I can hide from God. My actions, my words, my thoughts are going to testify against me. Everything I've ever done. And in that moment, it's like, why should I let you in, basically? Why should you be in heaven? Why shouldn't be?

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But Jesus did everything for me, and I believe that he's the way, the truth, and the life, and I believe that Jesus Christ has wiped my slate clean. I have faith and trust that Jesus Christ is really God. Praise God. And heaven is just being with God for an eternity, an infinite amount of time. And when I chose to live for Jesus now on this earth, I stopped living for myself. I live for Jesus.

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That's the number one thing that's. Yeah, keep going, keep going.

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Yeah.

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No, no, no. It does. I think like, let's take God out of the picture and let's talk about being a good person. At some point it gets really draining because the only thing that's making you be a good person is your own willpower. And that's awful. That's hard. That's draining.

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Cause then you're going to wake up some days and be like, dang, I don't really feel like being a good person because it's out of your own strength. And that's where like the whole be like Jesus comes from.

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So, so like, is that a, so then that's, that's like every religion's POV of eternal life. So like is be as good as you can. And maybe, Be as good as you can and maybe it'll be enough. So when I talk to my Muslim friends or my Hindu friends or my Buddhist friends that are working to enlightenment or working to please Allah, they never know if they're doing enough. They never know.

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And that's the ultimate goal. You can never do enough. So I will never do enough that's going to make God love me. That's why it's like our good works, the Bible says, are like filthy rags to God. Meaning you can't make me love you more just by doing good stuff. You do things for me because you love me.

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Yeah, like Jesus himself, he makes us worthy. It's such a hard thing to comprehend. I have a hard time comprehending it sometimes because we live in a life where everything's a mathematics equation. We live in this constant state of worthiness where it's like, I'm only worthy if I do X, Y, and Z. And if I don't do these things, I'm not valuable. So that is transactional.

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Whereas God offers this new thing called grace. Grace is a gift that isn't deserved. So it's like Jesus is offering this lifestyle where he's like, okay, I'm going to give you something that you don't deserve. My own love. You don't deserve it. I'm perfect. You're not. You don't deserve my perfect love, but I'm going to give it to you because I love you.

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And now I do good things, not because I'm trying to make God love me more. I do things because I already love him. And that's my motivating factor. So then Jesus becomes my strength. And so becoming more like Jesus is because, oh, well he did it. And man, I love Jesus. So I want to do what Jesus did because I love him.

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It's like people that look up to you, Jesse, like people don't do things because they think that, oh, if I do the things that Jesse does, then Jesse's going to love me more. It's like, you love people when they're their self. And they do the things that they love. But the reason that someone would be like you is because they actually love what you do and they share the same passions as you.

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So they would maybe do things differently or they would look up to you or maybe kind of chase a similar dream because they're doing what they love. They're motivated by love. Do you love doing your clothing brand? Yeah, of course. Okay, you do it because you love it. Exactly.

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Like it's the same reason why you show up to work every day, why you wake up and why you get fired up about your clothing brand. It's because you love it. And you love the work environment and you're actually doing something you love. Right. And I mean, all the time on college campuses and a lot of my friends that go to college, like I'll go, I'll go and like see some of our friends.

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I'll be like, man, dude, I wish I was doing what you were doing. Like, well, where are you studying? I'm studying business. I mean, it's cool. But like, you know, I wish I was doing what you were doing. And I'm like, dang, that's hard to know. And even from a broad standpoint, it's like, okay, I'm motivated by love. But how can I be motivated by love?

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Well, I know that God loves me because he died for me. I don't know anyone that's ever died for me. I've never been in a position where someone's laid their life down for me. So I'm trying to wrap my mind around this thing. But God has displayed to me that he loves me. So that's the truth. So now I can be motivated by love, knowing that he loved me first.

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And now that I love him, I'm going to seek him and follow him and do those things.

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It's a historical fact.

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Yeah.

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What is your purpose? What gives you satisfaction, significance, and security in your identity? Where is your identity? So right now you could say, well, maybe my identity is in my work, my friendships, my family, things like that. Okay. Well, all those things, no matter how much your family, friends love you, they're going to let you down at some point. Yeah. Yeah.

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god forbid you could wake up tomorrow and your clothing brand doesn't exist anymore that could fail okay well those foundations are going to be hard things to put your identity in then you're never going to be satisfied unless those things are doing good in your life does that make sense that's then yeah if you measure your life that way your life can fall off or it can Yes. Yes.

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So then it's like, where, where is our satisfaction, significance and security? Well, Jesus is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow and forever. So he's not going to change what his Bible says, what the word says is not going to change. So that's a foundation I can build off of. So then it's like, okay, Jesse, if you didn't have the clothing brand, you had no friends, you had no family.

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It was just you. Would you be okay? if we're being honest.

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It's like a staple.

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Sure. There can be some truth to that. But then you have studies where it's like people that come from alcoholic families and backgrounds, they either choose alcohol or they don't. Yeah. And so it's like, well, you could say, well, that's a product of their environment. Well, what about the person that grew up in an alcoholic family that didn't choose alcohol?

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Then those moments didn't lead to that decision in the sense of they followed in those footsteps. You know what I mean? Yeah.

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You know? Like, if there is no God, it does not matter what we do. Morals go out the window. Yeah. And then, like, ultimately, like... like to make it personal living for your dad your dog your business does not matter yeah it just does not if there is no god it's just for your experience yeah so it does not matter like if there is no god yeah i can go rob a bank right now i can go kill someone

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I can go do whatever. And sure, like some people, the U.S. justice system would say that's wrong. This isn't that. But it's like, oh, well, in my eyes, it's not wrong. I got no purpose. I can do whatever I want because there's no repercussions at the end of this life. So I'm just going to take every chance I get and do what I want and live how I want. And, you know, selfish, selfish, selfish this.

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And so like when we zoom. But it will affect your experience in this life. Sure, sure. But then when this life's over, right? There's no, yeah. Doesn't matter. It doesn't matter that I killed people. It doesn't matter that I did this or did that. So then it goes, okay, if there is a God, why am I here? Why do I do the things that I do? And look, work is important. Family is important.

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Your dog is very important. But if you didn't have those things and your satisfaction, your significance in life, your security in life is in those things, all of those things that you just mentioned, we'll all disappear at some point. Business, family, whatever. All those things are perishable things.

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Yeah, it's like too good to believe.

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So then it's like, what can sustain me that does not waver, does not change, that is imperishable? The only thing I can think of is a supernatural God that created me that does not change, that does not waver, that is sustainable. Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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yeah i mean by the way also i'm like actually really excited to like talk to you like really yeah and uh and because it's like a conversation i haven't had and i think i think that's what life is like all about so i think thanks man i'm pumped to talk to you too this is all super helpful stuff to understand because it i think uh we have to like be able to set a foundation for like what we think so you believe in signs you grew up around your mom was spiritual and things like that and yeah you know we can dive into all that um

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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all that, that's going to be fun. Do you feel like, I don't know, I guess I don't know how to word it. Like, do you feel like it may be hard to believe because people have treated you transactionally? Like, I was talking to Adam about this. He was like, yeah, it's just hard for me, and I feel like you can relate, and I hate throwing these words around, but I'm trying to paint the picture.

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Someone just put all the mechanics in a box and shook it up and throw it in the forest. And that's like, what? No way. And that's what I love about you saying I'm very logical because God's not trying to do mental gymnastics with us. He's not trying to make this a super hard thing for us to wrap our minds around. He is very logical. He's very intentional, very specific.

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And that's why I think it's intellectually dishonest for people to say, oh, all this stuff came from nothing. The only thing that comes from nothing is nothing.

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something has to create something yeah and so so it's like who did it and we believe that it's god and out of everything and that's enough to believe in god yes to start the to start the train of thought the snowball effect someone created this who did this

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I mean, people are always asking for more. People are never satisfied. I mean, like even in the Bible, like you got Jesus who was walking on earth that's done tons of miracles already, who has done more than enough to prove that he's God. And these people go, Jesus, give us another sign. We just want to make sure. Give us another sign after he's done a bunch. And he's like, you guys are crazy.

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He calls them a wicked generation. You wicked generation. And he says, the only sign you'll get is the sign of Jonah. I don't know if you know the story of Jonah, but it's like this guy got swallowed by a whale for three days and then got spit back out.

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But but like feeling like when you have that and you're famous and you know, you're in the eyes of a lot of people and things like that, then people begin to treat you transactionally. Yeah. Like they want stuff from you and you give me what I want and I'm not going to scratch your back unless you scratch mine and this kind of thing.

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And he's like, just as Jonah was in the belly of the whale for three days, so will the son of man be in the belly of the earth for three days and rise again. So Jesus said, the sign that you'll know that I really am who I say I am is when I rise from the dead. When I die and the rest from the dead, it's what he says. And they don't understand because he uses this like unique way of displaying it.

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But that's what he says. And it's like, you know, what the heck? But even that's not enough. And that's like today. It's like, well, I'm having a hard time believing in Jesus. And it's like, well, you know, and this is just you. This is a lot of people. A lot of people are this. Well, Jesus revealed himself and claimed to be God. And that's still not enough for people. And God's not mad at that.

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he's revealed himself through design, intelligent design, through the Bible, through history, through Jesus and all of these things. And it's like, okay, like, man, I'll never fully, like, I can't prove again. I can't prove that God is real, but it's like, where does the evidence lie? Where's the overwhelming evidence?

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And, and there's a lot of like non-Christian historical evidence that talks about Jesus. That's just so reliable. And yeah, So fascinating and so profound and magnificent. And to be honest, like we'll never understand everything about God. It's a supernatural being. We're finite, limited in our brains. We won't be able to fully wrap our minds around everything.

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And so like, I honestly think this is kind of like my last thought. It's like the Bible says, if you lack wisdom, ask God and he'll give it to you.

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And Jesus says, blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God. So I think if we are genuinely our hardest hungry and we're desperate, say, God, I'm lacking wisdom in this area. Give me wisdom. Help me understand. Help me understand. Reveal yourself to me. Help me understand that he will. And if we draw near to Jesus, the Bible says he will draw near to us.

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And so the fact that you're curious and have an open heart and an open mind is like the first step. That's like the first entry step. And even if we fully don't understand the, there's still things I don't fully understand. I don't know everything. And that's just like the open mind. Okay, God, I'm going to try this and I'm going to continue to seek you and make it known and things like that.

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And so I think.

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It's okay to not have everything figured out.

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And so do you think that's why it could be hard for you to believe is because there's something on the table where it's like you don't have to do anything to take it?

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I mean, are you really ever going to have anything fully figured out? I mean, society progresses, adapts. No. So then it's like we have to be kind of comfortable with like not knowing everything, which is OK. And to be honest, that makes God more holy to me. The fact that I don't know every I can't fully understand everything about him. Yeah.

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but i can understand enough that makes me go okay you really are you say you are you really are the god of the universe i'm going to love you and trust you even if i don't fully agree with it because we're born into a word world where we prioritize our own feelings and thoughts and our own beliefs over the truth and that's where like god sets the standard so like i'll give you an example like

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Now society is like, sleep with whoever you want, have as much sex as you want, do it. Whereas the Bible would say, hey, sex is a beautiful gift. It's amazing. It's a beautiful thing. But God designed it for a man and a woman in a marriage covenant. And so it's enjoyable for that. And it's an act of worship when it's in that. And anything outside of that would be disobeying to God.

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Okay, well, society would be like, well, you know, you can go sleep with whoever you want. That's fine. And then it's like, well, God had this original design. And so I think that's like, what God is like bringing back to us. God has an original design for creation and mankind, but because of sin, we've strayed away from this original design.

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So when we're listening to Jesus, we are trying to turn back to how God originally designed us. So where society would say, sleep with whoever you want, and you could have someone who has sex, a sex addict that has sex three times a day.

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And then if they put their faith in Christ and they look at the Bible and they see what this is and they would go, okay, well, if I really believe that Jesus is God, then I'm gonna stop having sex three times a day, and I'm gonna wait to commit myself to someone, and then when I marry them, I'm gonna save sex for that. You see what I'm getting?

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There's a standard, I just use that as an example because That is what Jesus will do to you. He'll change what you thought was right to what actually is right because God has a design and an intentional purpose and origin and things like that for his creation. Yeah. Yeah, if that makes sense. It does, yeah.

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I think... Yeah, I have a lot of respect, and I think it's very noble that you're willing to be open and talk about things that you're working through.

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Guys, thank you so much for watching and tuning into these episodes. Guys, if you love watching and listening to these episodes, aside from following us along on Instagram, TikTok, Spotify, YouTube, I wanna ask you guys, would you guys consider partnering with our ministry financially?

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Your guys' radical generosity is actually what continues to fuel and produce these podcast episodes and our evangelism videos. So if you guys feel a burden to support this ministry, reach lost souls with the gospel through digital and in-person ministry, go to jesusinthestreet.org. Pray and ask God, how should I partner with Bryce and their ministry and Jesus in the street ministry?

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Yeah.

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Should I partner with them in prayer? Should I partner with them in finances? Should I partner with them in support? Whatever it may be, pray and ask God, how should I support Jesus in the street ministry? Love you guys. See you guys next week for the next episode.

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Well, I felt bad because I didn't know your last name. But then I was like, everyone knows you as MTV Jesse, not Jesse Sebastiani. Now we know now. So I kind of felt bad. But I'm glad that you think it's cool. So that makes me feel better. Well, thanks for coming on. Dude, of course. I'm pumped. I was super stoked when you said you would come on the pod.

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Yeah. Does that make any sense? No, no, no. That makes sense. Yeah. I think so. Something I struggle with is being an overthinker.

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I will sometimes overthink things to the point where I talk myself out of things or believing in something or circumstances and things like that. So, you know, I guess when it comes to like God and Christianity, like I can't fully prove that God is real, but I can look at the evidence.

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And I think that out of everything, there's more overwhelming evidence that the God of Christianity is the truth than anything else. And that's why I believe in the God of Christianity more so other religions or not believing anything at all. Because I just think that there's too much evidence that supports it. outside of that.

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So even when I overthink sometimes, because I'd be lying if I said I don't have doubts when life gets hard. Sometimes I'm like, okay, God, where are you at? This feels like you're not here, things like that. And there's been many famous Christians in the past that have doubted. I mean... There was a guy in the Bible named Thomas.

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They call him Doubting Thomas because he literally doubted that he doubted so much throughout the Bible. You can see it. And there was even a point where he was a believer and then doubted it. Yeah, he was a disciple. He literally followed Jesus when Jesus was legitimately in front of him.

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And so when Jesus had raised from the dead in his physical body, it's recorded in the Bible that Jesus appeared to the disciples and And Jesus is standing right in front of him, being raised from the dead. And Thomas still doesn't believe. He has to put his hands in the pierced marks where Jesus was pierced, crucified to, in order to believe. That's how bad he doubted.

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He's looking at him in the face. And he's like, I still don't believe. I got to feel it. You know what I mean? So I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing to have doubts. Sorry to cut you off, but is it the...

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So I had I had. To long story short, I mean, I grew up in Georgia, went to church growing up, we stopped going to church, and then I went to a private Christian school. There were a lot of people in these Christian communities that were like telling me how to live my life, but they were living the total opposite. And so I just, a bunch of hypocrites.

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And so I was like, this God guy can't be real if they really don't believe what they say they believe. I had just a bitter taste in my mouth about God and had broken family and all this stuff. And anyways, I developed depression and anxiety in like the eighth grade and had this crippling depression and anxiety that was a hidden battle no one knew about for years.

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And then when I was 17, I was going to take my life because I thought it was the only way to get the depression and anxiety to stop. Yeah. And the night I was going to take my life. I've never hear that, man. Oh, dude. Well, I wouldn't be here today if this never happened. I mean, yeah, this build up of everything. And I've never done drugs or alcohol before.

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I'm just pumped to learn about you and talk about some things. So I think it's going to be good, but I just want to know like where you're from, how you grew up, how you were raised, which, what were some challenges you faced growing up? Things like that.

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So I, I, I say that to set this up like I knew what was what had happened to me wasn't like a trip or like I was drunk. I went to have my last meal at a Waffle House and I had a supernatural encounter with Jesus when I was in there. that stopped me from taking my life. And this was the mindset of being your last supper? Yeah, I was going to literally like have my death row meal.

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It was like my death row meal, like I'm going to eat at my favorite restaurant one last time before I take my life. You had that thought going there? Yes. And I went there and as I'm eating, I have a supernatural encounter with Jesus. And so basically what that looked like was I was eating with this guy and he had nothing to do with Christianity. He wasn't a Christian. And he was a grown man.

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I was 17. He was complaining to me about, there's like a bar area. I don't know if you've ever been to a Waffle House, but like right next to the cash register, there's this like low table bar area. I'm sitting there and this guy's talking to me, complaining about how his wife's divorcing him and he's losing the kids. You met him there randomly. Yeah, yeah, randomly.

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And he's like complaining, complaining and In my mind, I'm thinking like you're dumping your issues on me while I'm coming here for an escape one last time. I'm like, this guy has no idea what I'm about to do. And he I didn't really hear much of what he was saying. But this one thing it was like he said, I love my wife, but she does not feel the same about me.

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There's no growth in a relationship if the love isn't mutual. And when he said that statement, it was like all of time stopped. And all these Bible verses that I had learned in school from my Christian school, that I'd learned in church growing up, were flashing in my brain, that these things were making sense and kind of clicking.

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And then I kind of paused and it was almost like, maybe I don't know God loves me. Because I haven't given myself a chance to love him back. Because I haven't attempted to love him back. Because my perception of him is how people have displayed him to me.

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And it was almost like this understanding of, okay, like I can, you know, your friends, family, and people that know you can fill in the picture about Jesse. Some good things, some bad things, right? But if I really want to know Jesse, I would hang out with you right now. We would talk. We'd get meals together. Maybe, you know, play basketball, whatever.

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what's going on guys welcome back to another episode of the bryce crawford podcast i'm bryce and today i have a very special guest i'm so excited for this episode we've got pastor judah smith on judah how are you doing so good thanks for having me on bryce yeah i'm excited i want to start off with a completely honest confession okay okay um uh tanner was telling you earlier about how he watched jesus love and barabbas yeah when he became a christian yeah

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And I'm talking about something that I believe. I'm talking about something I have faith in right now. And I'm passionate about it because I think it's true. But then when I cut the camera off, it's not that all those things are wrong, but it's at that one piece that I so desire. This intimate, you're real, you're embraced. It feels like it hasn't been there.

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And it partially feels like it's my fault. You know? Yep. And that's why I really wanted to talk about this love of God today, because that's that's I feel like part of my part of my issue is I feel like my perception of God's love is kind of warped right now, if I'm being honest. And so I'm just going to I mean, selfishly, this episode's about me today.

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I'm like, you know, I want to talk about myself and things I'm going through. Sounds good to me. So it's selfishly about me, but I feel like that God's going to use this for a lot of people. I feel like a lot of people are feeling this way. I feel like that's the truth. You know, like you feel like no one understands how you feel and then you share it.

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Okay, perfect. Well, this is good. But I want to learn a little bit about you, too. I mean, where are you from? How did you come to Christ? How long have you been a Christian? Those kind of things. Yeah.

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And then you're like, actually, everybody feels the same way that I'm feeling right now. Just no one's saying it. So thanks for just ministering to my heart today and letting God use you. My privilege, man. Truly. Yeah. So what is the definition of God's love?

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If you could summarize the definition of God... Which, again, is hard. I mean, you got 1 Corinthians and all this other stuff and things like that, but if you could summarize the love of God in a definition, how would you package it?

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Dang. I feel like when I look at society, everyone defines it as love is sex, love is drugs, love is this or love is the butterflies. And then if you don't feel it and it's been so weird to invite you to my personal life this week. literally this entire week I've had close friends, um, family, um, people that are super close to me texting me all across the same issue of, of,

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this relationship or this thing is falling apart, friendship, relationship, whatever it may be, even things in my own life where it's, I don't feel, this person's not making me feel excited or I don't feel this butterflies. And so it's like, oh, because I don't feel this thing, I'm going to quit. I'm going to give up and I'm going to stop. And I'm going to do this.

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I had so many people text me, call me this week. And it was weird because it's like, I'm... These people are calling me saying like, Bryce, like this person in my life, they're not making me feel excited. So because they're not making me feel excited, I'm going to leave or I did decide to leave. And I don't know if I made the right decision.

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And I'm talking to them on the phone or I'm texting them like, man, you know, we choose to love. We choose to love. And when we choose to love and we show up despite the conditions, it stirs our affections for them. And then I'm sitting here telling these people on the phone and then I'm hanging up the phone and I'm going, dang, I don't even feel God's love right now.

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I'm in the dry and thirsty land right now begging for a drop of something. And I'm telling these people what to do and I'm having a hard time showing up. And I'm having a hard time, to be honest. And that's what makes me feel like the hypocrite. exactly what you described. God, I'm going to give you everything. And 48 hours later, not everything's there. And I feel like I'm saying that too.

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I'm getting convicted. All right, God, I'm going to do this thing. And then I halfway do it. And I'm like, man, am I just human? Or am I a piece of junk? Should I even be talking about this guy? All of these things, I feel like, and again, I believe it. I have so much faith that this guy really is who he says he is. But I'm just kind of sick and tired of my faith being nothing but knowledge.

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My whole faith in 2024 was how much knowledge can I gain? And that's a crummy way to have faith is how much knowledge can I learn about this guy? What was the surpassing moment for you to where it wasn't just in your head, but it was in your heart too? What got past that barrier for you? Yeah, I mean, I think...

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So Tanner was the one that introduced me to this video a year ago, and I've never heard the gospel communicated in that way before. So I took it and ran with it. So if someone tells me to give a 10-minute gospel presentation at a church, I quote you word from word. So I just want to tell you it has impacted me. I have to make a confession.

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Let's go. Thanks for giving me your time. So I guess for you, you came from a long line of Christianity, I guess you could say. So how did Jesus become real to you and not like a pressured thing?

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No, that was... Really, really what I need to hear, because I feel like I have been living in worthy world. I feel like that cartoon character that's got the cloud that only rains over him, you know, like I just got to be honest, because it's like I want to wear the robe. I want to wear the ring.

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But then I feel like that if I had a screen over my head that had every thought, feeling, emotion, action I'd ever done, that it would just be, and I am unqualified. I am the last guy that needs to have a microphone. I'm the last guy that needs to be talking about this guy. And all I want to do is close my eyes and picture this man that I have so much faith in.

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That drives me to share Jesus with people and have conversations. And all I can picture when I close my eyes is swords pointed at me from every direction of pressure, of you got to do this. And I just keep falling to the pressure.

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If I got to be this perfect guy, I got to have it all together. And then Bryce makes a knucklehead decision or, or, or Bryce is just, I'm a consistent knucklehead 23 hours and 50 minutes of the day. And, and as I'm being a knucklehead trying to, to manufacture this, this, this love that I'm, I'm wanting so bad, I feel like all I'm getting is the sword. And I, I,

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Yeah, I wear the robe and then it's like somehow it comes. It's not all me anymore. I take it off. And then I got the rain cloud over my head and I can't. I feel I so desire this. Like I was sharing with you, like I've always been passionate about Jesus. Ever since a moment, I surrendered my life to Jesus. And last year, there's no doubt.

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I don't know why God keeps having a bunch of people listening to me. I mean, I got tattoos all over my body. I had some dude call me. He goes, dude, why are you preaching, bro? You look like the total opposite of a preacher. And I'm like, I am. I don't know why I do that.

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And then there's so many people listening and I feel like I did fall to the opinion and the pressure and the, oh man, I gotta do this. And I don't want to feel like that. I really don't. I don't think anybody wants to feel like that. How do you handle the pressure?

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I guess that is how I've been feeling because... And it's so crazy that you brought that up. You're like, man, like you were talking about like the public, you know, people that you know about public falls and things like that. And I would look at that and I would go, I'm going to take every step possible to not even crack a door open to whatever a fall looks like. And, you know, I'm doing this.

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I got a five minute screen time on my Instagram and TikTok. Yeah. I don't even follow girls. I have five friends. I can count on my hand how many friends I have. I've got 2,000 unread text messages. I've got nine voicemails I haven't listened to. I'm so like, oh my gosh, I want to do this. I want to do this. I just want to love Jesus and Jesus.

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I just want to make sure you're my priority and this and that. Sure, it's like maybe you don't understand that Navy SEAL pressure or I don't understand your pressure and you don't understand my pressure and Even I look and I'm like, dang. And there's like a part of me and I'm not even trying to be like, oh my gosh, look at me when I say this. It's like, you just care about people.

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And it's like, oh, I want to have the energy and capacity for every person I see. And it's like, I want to tend to their garden. And then my garden's a sloppy mess. And I'm like, you know, it's like, it's like, I want to, I want to help if I can. I want to like do this, you know, oh, you're hurting. Like, how can, can I just give you a hug?

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You know, something that I just want, I'll have an empty glass and like try to drop my last drop. And somebody else's, you know, just trying to like make, like see like, oh, you know, how can I be the light for this person? And I think that's why when I close my eyes, I see nothing but pressure because

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And it's like, I can shut off all the doors and windows and put the shutters and close them and tent all the windows of where every bit of pressure. And it's like, even what you said, even the nice comment, like someone will say something nice to me and I'm just like, thanks. And then I'll like sit on it and I'm like, I don't feel like that's true.

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Like, thank you, but I just don't feel like that's true. Or yeah, it's just like, I don't know. I don't want to stop because I love this guy that I'm so obsessed talking about and I really do. I just want, for some reason, I feel like this knowledge that I'm carrying has calloused my heart to this feeling of like feeling God and his love and I also feel like

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I have an amazing family, you know, I have an amazing family, but I would lie to you and tell you that my family doesn't have brokenness and my family wasn't broken and hasn't been broken for a long time, you know, and so I definitely know that there is also a perspective where I'm viewing God partially on. I'm viewing him wrongly.

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I'm viewing him like things I've seen or things that have happened to me or things like that. And I want to be able to get over that. I want to, it's like I want to kill that part of me. I feel like this is the one thing that's holding me back is receiving this love that is so clearly displayed and so on the table and it's packaged with a bow on top. And it's like, oh, Bryce, like, here you go.

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And I'm like holding the gift. I'm like, hey, guys, look at this gift I got. And I feel like, you know, there's part of me that's like, I've got this gift. I know I got it. It's in my hand here. Check it out. And then I'm like, don't. Sometimes it's it's all the knowledge that's driving me.

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And I don't want that. I would drop all the knowledge right now if I could just know the person and his love. And I know I do. But this dry season, whatever dry, thirsty land of just nothing but swords pointing at me, and I'm still trying to micromanage this. Like, let me keep cutting off all these branches to get in the way. I can't. It just makes me feel weird. You know, like it's weird.

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why do we do this why why do why do we like try to micromanage those questions every day like i i don't i don't know i i don't know i get i guess you make me feel normal wow um thank you you don't make me feel crazy because i feel like i talk to a lot of people that um That kind of tell me that you have to be some type of way. And I don't feel like I match up to that at all. Wow.

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I've been trying so hard to... receive this love. And I feel like I'm held back by this knowledge. And I feel like every time I'm like, I got to read this book. I got to do this. I got to do that. Because everyone I talk to is 10 times smarter than me. And they seem so much more closer to Jesus because they know so much more than me. And I feel like I'm just trying to catch up.

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But I'm just at my wits end. I don't even care. I just want to... I want to feel this love again that I felt when I was at Waffle House.

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And I know there are people out there that feel like me, and that's why I'm willing to talk about it. Because I know I'm not worthy. I'm not perfect. I'm broken and unqualified. I mean, shoot, I'm supposed to be an adult, but I can't grow facial hair that doesn't make me look like a creep. I want to say I got it all made, but I don't. And you make me feel normal. Thank you. Thank you.

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And I want to I just want to be that son. I want to feel like his son. I don't want to feel like I'm going to be another statistic one day. And I don't want to feel like I'm just this strong man. Let me strong man. I'm tired of trying to like do it on my own.

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That makes me encouraged. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. That's all I can really say. Thank you. Thank you for who you are and being you and making me feel normal. It's nice. I want to transition into a question that has to deal with different kind of love that I ask all my amazing married guests. Yeah. I listened to my amazing friends on your episode with Girls Gone Bible.

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So I'm going to ask you, you have to give me a different answer. And I'm going to force one out of you. I'm not married. I'm in an amazing dating relationship. My girlfriend's amazing. So I always ask married friends, what is their best piece of dating advice that they would give? And I'm going to quote you on what you said. You said... I can't give good dating advice.

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My wife's way better at that, but I'm going to shake you down for dating advice. I'm always trying to be better.

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So in that nine-year-old time, did you ask for that encounter or did it just kind of happen?

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When you're married, right? You knew that was coming. Amen, amen. I appreciate you. I feel like that is really practical because I feel like the most loved when people ask me questions. Even when you came in here, you have nothing but, where are you from? Or, dude, no way, that's so cool. Or, why do you do this? Or things like that. And I'm like... Oh man, like that is, that is awesome.

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Like, you know, it makes you feel seen. It makes you feel seen. And so it's cool because you walk out the very thing that you're telling us to do. So thanks for doing that. Thanks for being that awesome example. And thanks for you doing that.

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Really? Is that a good thing? Well, it's not good when I walk outside. The sun, like, blinds me, and I'm like, oh, my gosh.

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Yeah, yeah, it's really weird. Like, I thought it wasn't a real thing, and then I started noticing how bad my eyes hurt when I'm in the sun. My girlfriend does like my blue eyes.

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Thank you. Well, normally I try to have good eye contact. And then when I met my girlfriend, I was so nervous I couldn't look at her in the eyes. I was like looking everywhere else but her in the face, like looking up at the sky, looking down at my feet, looking at my friends. How long has she been dating? A year. Oh, baby. Yeah, a year.

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Well, you know, I had a crush on her all throughout high school. I knew who she was in high school, but she didn't know who I was. And I had a crush on her, like a digital crush. We knew who pretty girls were in the surrounding high school areas. This is unbelievable. It was like before I was a Christian, I knew who she was, and I always thought she was beautiful.

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But I never, yeah, she didn't know who I was, became a Christian, You know, Jesus found me. I found God super cool. We're awesome. We're friends. And then, you know, in 2023, Tanner that you met from Washington, he runs a Bible study. She walks in my apartment and I almost crap my pants. I'm like, there is no way this girl is in my apartment for a Bible study.

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Yeah. This is how I introduced myself. I go up to her and I go, hi, I'm Bryce. Nice to meet you. She goes, hi, I'm Maddie. I said, I know. That's what I said to her. You think I didn't blow up that moment right there? I know. She's probably like, what? She's like, excuse me? Like, you're a weirdo. And I'm like, but I didn't drop the ball.

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And then a couple days later, me, Tanner, Maddie, and her roommate drove through the night to Phoenix, Arizona to the closest Waffle House restaurant.

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to la and all four of us true god waffles yeah yeah and that's on that drive i i was driving and and maddie was in the passenger seat so we were able to talk and tanner would say are you tired bro and i'm like no dude no i can drive us the whole way but it was just because i wanted to get to know maddie so i was pounding energy drinks so i could stay awake just so you get to know me and you really did the whole night yeah the whole there and back i drove i did not let anyone else drive because i didn't want to stop talking to maddie tell me love doesn't work tell me right now

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But yeah, that was so crazy. Yeah, but now we're together and she knows who I am now.

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She's slightly older than me by a few months. Same.

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Yeah. Wait, when were you born? What's your birthday?

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I was going to save you. I was going to save you.

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October 22nd. Oh, we're October babies? Yes. October's the best. And then Maddie's birthday's in July.

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That's Maddie's birthday.

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You promise me? I swear.

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Bring in the camera.

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I'm sweating profusely right now.

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This is wild because when you said that, I was like, there's no way. But you look like you were born in October because you're a good-looking dude. Thank you, bro. You're welcome.

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Yeah, they're the best.

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Yes, yes.

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Yeah, this is great. But that's kind of how we met. Whoa. But yeah, I was super nervous. I could not look her in the eyes. Super nervous. How long has it been right now as we talk since you've seen her in person? Like when was the last time I saw her? In person. Last time I saw her in person was yesterday. She lives in LA.

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So she moved to LA and I'd already been living in LA and she moved in with that roommate who was already living in LA. And then her roommate was like, you want to come to this Bible study? She's like, sure, let's go.

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She shows up to my apartment and I almost poop my pants because I'm like, there's no way this girl that I thought was so cute since I was a freshman in high school is in my apartment right now.

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I would totally do that.

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Yes.

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I'll pay.

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Maddie. Her real name is Madeline. Oh. But she goes by Maddie. You're going to love her. She's amazing. Bro, Madeline? She's the best. My favorite part about her, and this is why she has shown me God's love in a perspective I've never seen before because... You know how when you get close to someone, I think you'll be able to relate because you're married.

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I have taken your sermon from 10 years ago and ran with it super hard. So thank you.

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But the people closest to you, they see the nastiest, worst of you. So being that version of myself in front of someone I'm deeply in love with is scary to me. But Maddie's seen every flaw in me, and she still draws closer to me. And that's why I just love her because I'm like, dang, you just see all my junk. Like, if I need to rant about something, Matty's the first person I call.

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Like, you will not believe what just happened. I had my wallet stolen two weeks ago, and it had an AirTag on it. And we're tracking the guy that's got my wallet, like, on Find My Phone and stuff. And I'm, like, not the awesome, gracious, loving, like, amazing, sweet Bryce that everyone sees. I am losing my cool. I'm like, this dude's got my ID. I'm flying in five hours. I need my ID.

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Yeah. What is like the most recent way that you feel like God has shown up in a magnificent way in your life or in your friend's life?

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I don't even care about the money. I just need my ID. Like I got all this, this and that. And man, he's just sitting there in the car. Oh, come on. Just trying to be calm, calm, cool. we show up and I confront this guy, get my wallet back. It's so crazy. And then it's like, once I get my wallet, I'm like, man, man, life's good today, man. Like, you know, the sun's out.

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Like I acted like I just was not cool for two and a half hours. And, uh, and, and she, and I just loved it because she was so loving to me in the moment. And then, you know, later on, she's like, Hey, you know, like, I love you, but that that's not cool. You know, next time maybe, you know, play it. Cooler, better, you know, maybe be a little bit more.

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And that's what I love because it's like you can have those hard conversations, but I'm just bragging about Maddie because I don't get to do that often.

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She's the best. She's the best. That's a great story about finding your wallet. How long ago was that?

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two weeks ago like literally this was like not that long ago it fell out of my pocket and this guy just um took it and like like what an idiot like take the air the air tags on the front like dude just pop the air tag out like toss it or just take everything out of the wallet and toss the wallet out but this guy yeah he had it and i was telling maddie like we get there i'm in the parking lot of this this facility

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And it was his work. They were working on a Sunday because we were getting ready to go to church. And I realized I lost my wallet and I'm freaking out. And I'm like, all right, Matty, we got to go find this. And so I'm in the parking lot and I'm getting amped up. I'm like, Matty, I haven't been in a fight since the eighth grade. This dude's about to get it.

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I'm like telling, I'm like hyping myself. I'm like, if I see this guy, I'm going to fight him. And he's going to get it. And this and that. And we're in the parking lot and I see this guy. And it was crazy because we saw this guy's car earlier. And I was like, maybe it's him, but we knew it was him because his car was there. And I'm like, dude, this guy's going to get it.

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And I get out, and he rolls the window down, and I go...

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hey bro you you crazy like there's totally the opposite of what i said i was gonna do and uh and he was like he was like laid off like oh yeah i was gonna he goes oh yeah and he's like patting his wallet he's like patting his pants and then he reaches over and grabs my wallet and you know what was so crazy was like i don't carry cash on me i carry like yeah my credit card my debit card my id and then i have all these letters that maddie has written me that are my favorite and

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in there and so he had just like i knew he'd looked in it because my stuff was in different places you know what i mean but he probably was like this is the most boring wallet i've ever stolen and was like here you go bro like but but uh but did you still go to church no we didn't because it took forever it took forever so we were because if you still went to church i'd be like wow bro you really are a saint but no i'm the worst because we didn't go to church afterwards no i i think we we got some food after because i was so pumped but like

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I didn't even know like you could lock your card. I didn't even know that was a thing through an app. Anyways, but that was like pivotal moment of like Maddie loving me despite my atrocious breakdown of like somebody's got my wallet. I'm about to rip his vocal cords out. And then I get there and I'm like, oh, hey, bro. Awkward. It says my wallet is in your car right now.

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Yeah, you definitely don't. You didn't give me a weird look when I got out of the car to talk to your boss because you totally didn't know that that was my face on my newly updated ID that I got maybe two months ago. So it looks exactly like me and not like the prepubescent 16 year old getting his brand new license. Like, so yeah, that was crazy.

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I look forward to the date night. That's going to be fun.

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If I have any to give, sure.

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Dang, I appreciate you. Thank you for giving me your time, for speaking of my heart, man. Like I never cry. So I was bawling my eyes out. I love crying. But that felt good. That was good. And I'm really grateful you helped me process a lot of moving through. And I know this is going to impact a lot of people. So thank you.

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Thanks for what you do. And I appreciate you a lot. I love you, man. Thank you. Yeah, guys, thank you so much for watching the episode. Guys, please check out Judah and everything. I'm going to link in the description that Jesus loving Barabbas sermon because when you listen to it, then you guys are going to start preaching verbatim what he's done because I've been doing that and it's amazing.

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So love you, Judah. Thank you so much for your time. Love you guys. Subscribe. See you guys in the next episode.

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No, no. It changed my life kind of in a similar way. Like there was a period of time where, I don't know, for me, I guess when I became a Christian, my faith was very emotional and Jesus was real. Right, right. And then something happened where he came very like logical and it was all like facts. Like how much can I know about Jesus to outsmart someone or things like that?

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Yeah. No, I feel like God reveals himself to me when I'm in the shower. Yeah. So it's not weird. You know, it's like it just happens. But yeah, well, I had like my first encounter when I was 17. I don't know how much you know, but I had like an encounter with Jesus in Waffle House. No way. I love Waffle House. Dude, it's amazing. It's amazing.

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It's amazing. I wish we had. Yeah, yeah. I just like how they can sneeze on your food, and it's just good.

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Yeah, yeah. This is great. It's like an extra seasoning. Strong ingredients. Yeah, or like a motorcycle's on fire in the parking lot, and you're just like, yeah, I'm at home. I like that. But yeah, I was going there because I was taking it super intense right now. But long story short, I had struggled with depression and anxiety for years.

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And I came to a moment where I thought my life wasn't valuable. So I was gonna go to Waffle House for my last meal and I had a supernatural encounter with Jesus that stopped me from taking my life. And that's when I made my ask of God, if you're real, take away my anxiety and depression. And he did. I haven't had crippling anxiety or depression for years, which is amazing. Praise God.

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But that was my introduction was kind of like a moment too. And so I can kind of relate to that. I guess for someone like me, I guess something I'm having a hard time with is I feel like lately... I haven't had an encounter in a while. And I know that faith isn't based on encounters and stuff like that. It's nice to have those intimate moments with Jesus.

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And so it makes me... I feel like some people think I don't get in my head and I'm not a human being because I...

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i have a podcast and everyone's like oh you've got a podcast you got everything made up or whatever but the reality is like i'm actually 10 times more broken than people think yeah 10 times going through it as well like everyone and so you know what what do you do when when those moments come when you feel like you're in a drought of you you feel like you can't feel god because everyone wants to feel god and i feel like i'm in that right now absolutely

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And then Tanner had shown me Jesus loving Barabbas and I would listen to it every day and I go hunting. So I'd be hunting and I'd have my AirPods and listening to your sermon on a repeat because it made Jesus so real to me. And so that's kind of what I want to talk about. I want to talk about God's love because I feel like that's something I'm still struggling with today. Wow.

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Is viewing God as a loving Father, viewing God as God's love, receiving God's love. So I really want to talk about that today. Sounds good to me.

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Yeah. That speaks to my soul. I feel like whenever, I don't know, it's kind of hard because there's The fuel to my passion is Jesus, just what he's done in my life and who he is. And I guess sometimes it does make me feel like a hypocrite when I'm talking about Jesus. And I'm just like, man, I'm like, cut the camera off. And I'm like, dude, I can't even feel this guy.