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Kelly Clarkson: Red Flags, Divorce & Starting Over (Best Of)

Sun, 20 Apr 2025

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In this deeply personal conversation, Kelly Clarkson – beloved artist, truth teller, and goddamn cheetah – joins us to discuss:  How Untamed gave her the clarity and courage to divorce;  Why she stayed for as long as she did;  The lowest point of her life;  What broke her heart the most in her marriage;  How to recover yourself after slowly disappearing in a relationship;  Her incredible new album chemistry;  Embracing singleness; and  Why she’s a stronger parent today. About Kelly:  Kelly Clarkson is one of the most popular artists of this era with total worldwide sales of more than 25 million albums and 40 million singles. Her multi-Emmy Award-winning daytime talk show, “The Kelly Clarkson Show,” has been picked up for its 5th and 6th seasons. Additionally, she was the winning coach on seasons 14, 15, 17, and 21 of “The Voice” and returned as a coach for Season 23. Kelly is the recipient of three consecutive Daytime Emmy Awards for “The Kelly Clarkson Show,” three Grammy Awards, four American Music Awards, three MTV Video Music Awards, one MTV Movie & TV Award, two Academy of Country Music Awards, two American Country Awards and one Country Music Association Award.  Kelly will release her highly anticipated tenth studio album, Chemistry on June 23rd.  TW: @kellyclarkson IG: @kellyclarkson To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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How did Kelly Clarkson find clarity to get divorced?

727.102 - 734.726 Glennon

Yeah, trying to do the right kind of hard, like trying to decide between what's the right hard is like one of the hardest things about parenting.

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735.086 - 744.231 Host

And in general, even like this move, we're all moving to New York. Like there's people that can come and go. In general, it's doing the hard thing. Like it's which hard thing? They're both crappy.

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744.691 - 769.286 Unknown

But I appreciate that about you so much because I think that people, it's like they go the opposite fairy tale. Yep. We used to be taught, if you stay together, happily ever after, and there's your redemption story. And then people went the other way. Like, now I broke it off because that was the right thing for me, and now I have to make that the perfect happy ending. And neither are true.

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769.546 - 775.59 Unknown

They're both extremely messy, and they both have challenges and blessings with them, and you just pick your heart.

775.99 - 776.411 Unknown

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

790.225 - 796.711 Glennon

I want to ask you about the song Mine on your new album. It's one of the songs that have been released already.

796.971 - 797.251 Unknown

Yeah.

797.471 - 811.964 Glennon

This song like gutted me because you wrote, I don't know why I stayed as long as I stayed. Yeah. And boy, do I get that. We all do. Boy, do I get that. Why did you stay as long as you stayed?

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