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WWDTM: Billy Porter, Mark Ronson, Tara Dower, and more!

Sat, 22 Feb 2025

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This week, we celebrate one last President's Day with special guests Mark Ronson, Billy Porter, Tara Dower, John Leguizamo, and James MarsdenLearn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Chapter 1: Who are the hosts and guests this week?

5.407 - 24.117 Chioki Ianson

From NPR and WBEZ Chicago, this is Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, the NPR News Quiz. I'm the voice so rich, Forbes put it on a list. Chioki Ianson, and here's your host at the Studebaker Theater in downtown Chicago, filling in for Peter Sagal, Tom Papa.

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26.96 - 39.43 Tom Papa

Thanks, Chioki. And thank you, everybody. This week was President's Day, and we're honoring George Washington's 293rd birthday by trying to bake a cake you can safely eat with wooden teeth.

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39.911 - 44.915 Chioki Ianson

Just be careful blowing out those candles, George, or your whole mouth is going to go up in flames.

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45.695 - 54.708 Tom Papa

And since we're already celebrating, let's keep the party going with one of our favorite guests from the past few years, actor, writer, and comedian, John Leguizamo.

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55.289 - 62.539 Chioki Ianson

Peter started by asking him how it felt to finally achieve the pinnacle of show business success, his own PBS special.

Chapter 2: What did John Leguizamo discuss about his career?

63.219 - 65.682 John Leguizamo

Yes, an overnight success after 40 years.

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66.342 - 76.813 Tom Papa

So this series, American History of the Untold History of Latinos, I understand was inspired by one of your many one-man shows. In this case, your own personal examination of Latino history, right?

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77.433 - 96.126 John Leguizamo

Yes, you know, it was based on Latino, Latin history from morons because I learned my son was being bullied and I wanted to give him, weaponize his knowledge and his history of his people. You know, I didn't know we finished building the railroads. I didn't realize we were the first fighters to create unions in the 1930s.

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97.626 - 109.711 John Leguizamo

And then, you know, we've been persecuted, but we've also contributed so much. We just reached a milestone last year. We contributed $3.2 trillion to the GDP yearly as a Latino culture.

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110.171 - 120.478 Tom Papa

Wow. My son is a huge fan of yours, and by that, of course, I mean because of your Ice Age movies and TV shows.

120.498 - 123.962 John Leguizamo

Yes, I'm so happy to hear that. We're about to do Ice Age 6.

128.484 - 142.517 Tom Papa

So you play, for those unlucky not to have seen the 4,000 Ice Age movies and TV shows and video games, you play Sid the Sloth, a prehistoric sloth, and we read that you actually got really deep into the research for his voice. Is that right?

Chapter 3: How did John Leguizamo create Sid the Sloth's voice?

142.878 - 163.037 John Leguizamo

Yeah, because I did like 50 voices for the director, Chris Wedge, and he said, I just want you to do your voice. I go, I don't want to do my voice. I want to do a voice. I'm an actor. So I did, you know, Southern Boys for the Sloth because he's slow. Then I went a little more ghetto on it. Come on. What you want? What you want? And he goes, nah. So then I got Discovery Channel footage.

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163.657 - 183.51 John Leguizamo

And I saw that Sloth stored food in their cheek pouches. And it would ferment and they'd get drunk. And so I started eating a sandwich. And I put it in my cheek pouches, and I walked around the house waiting for it to ferment, and it didn't, but it happened. Then I got slushy, slushy in my mouth, and I called the doctor, Chris, guess who this is? And he was like, I have no idea.

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183.53 - 187.692 John Leguizamo

It's Sid the Sloth. I found myself, and that's how I did it.

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187.952 - 188.552 Unknown Panelist

Wow.

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190.253 - 192.575 Unknown Panelist

That's amazing. You do belong on PBS.

192.615 - 209.225 Tom Papa

Yeah. Next time I'm sitting watching the movies with my son, I'm going to say, you know, that's historically accurate. Among the many, many things you do, you've done these one-man shows where you play all these characters. And as you just demonstrated, you're really, really, really good at voices. Have you ever used that power for evil?

210.268 - 234.395 John Leguizamo

Yes, of course. I mean, when I was much younger, it was great, because people, you know, when the school would complain, they would call my house, and I would answer as my mom, and I'd go, oh, he, what? No, he's fantastic. Oh, you want to expel him? Well, expel it for me. And I would mess with them for hours, and they wouldn't be able to expel me. Really? They tried to expel me, yeah.

234.415 - 235.896 Tom Papa

Did your mother know you were doing that?

236.376 - 239.037 John Leguizamo

No. No. Well, now she knows now, because she blabbered.

Chapter 4: What are some fun moments with panelists?

611.542 - 612.363 Unknown Panelist

How do you know that?

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613.443 - 617.666 Tom Papa

Because I have been reading a lot of books about old animals with my son.

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618.186 - 651.645 Unknown Panelist

I'm not sure what level these books are. Because really, there's one wherein it said, don't talk to scientists who study this and mention saber-toothed tiger because they will just lose it. Yeah. That's ridiculous. I would like, wait, wait, don't tell me it has a website, doesn't it? I believe we do, yes. Okay. I want to see. A copy of the book. That cautions the reader. The young reader.

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652.186 - 676.306 Unknown Panelist

I'm assuming, how old is your son that you're reading this book to? My son is four. Oh, yeah. You're not one of those parents who's already pushing your kid to get into college, are you? All right, I want you to go to college, but here's a tip. When you get in there... Do not. For the love of God, yeah. Your mother and I love you very much, but there's one thing up with which we cannot put.

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678.108 - 682.51 Unknown Panelist

Coming up, it's like... Wait a minute, coming up. What's the name of the book?

692.236 - 707.85 Tom Papa

When we come back, super producer Mark Ronson and ultra runner Tara Dower. One of them had their toenails surgically removed, but you're going to have to wait to find out which one. That's when we come back with more Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me from NPR.

714.761 - 715.101 Tom Papa

Thank you.

745.08 - 760.3 Chioki Ianson

From NPR in WBEZ Chicago, this is Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me, the NPR News Quiz. I'm Chioki Ianson, and here's your host at the Studebaker Theater in the Fine Arts Building in downtown Chicago, filling in for Peter Sagal, Tom Papa.

761.874 - 769.916 Tom Papa

Thank you, Chioki. This week, we're celebrating President's Day by building our own team of rivals with some of our favorite guests from the past few years.

Chapter 5: What does Mark Ronson say about Uptown Funk?

929.99 - 933.552 Unknown Panelist

I just made these little DJ cards.

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933.572 - 942.581 Mark Ronson

Business cards that just said like, you're making my booty hurt, RuPaul. Available for weddings and bar mitzvahs.

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945.883 - 969.574 Negin Farsad

Well, let's talk about Barbie, another worldwide phenomenon. I want to talk to you about scoring the movie, which you also did. Now that you've scored a movie, do you find yourself scoring dramatic moments in your own life? Or just like mundane, like you're just like chatting with the barista and then it's like, meh, meh, meh, meh.

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972.256 - 977.939 Mark Ronson

It's funny, because now I'm just so hyper attuned to like, it could be the music in a Burger King commercial.

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977.999 - 980.46 Unknown Panelist

I'm like, oh, I see why they did that.

980.96 - 985.402 Unknown Panelist

That song legit slaps. So I heard this weird factoid about you.

985.602 - 989.424 Negin Farsad

Is it true that the song, I Want to Know What Love Is, was written about your mom?

996.027 - 998.289 Mark Ronson

Yes, that is absolutely true.

998.489 - 1002.552 Chioki Ianson

I would hope so, because that would have been insulting. You don't talk about somebody's mama like that.

Chapter 6: How does Mark Ronson view his work as a DJ?

1113.404 - 1121.367 Negin Farsad

Or is it C, animal pee which they spray on their pine trees to keep people from stealing them for Christmas trees?

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1125.109 - 1127.51 Mark Ronson

I'm going to go with C because that's the funkiest.

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1129.11 - 1131.291 Negin Farsad

And that is correct. The answer is animal pee.

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1134.54 - 1144.626 Mark Ronson

The whole thing about the funk, and I know that I'm not on camera for most people, is like that kind of face, you know, and like nutmeg is not making me.

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1145.367 - 1172.448 Negin Farsad

All right, here's your next question. Lots of cities have bad smells, but not every city has a song about how bad it smells. Which of these is a real recording? Is it A, the aroma of Tacoma, Is it B, my dear Eureka, how Eureka? Or is it C, Pueblo, Colorado, smells like a rotten egg made of dead skunks?

1175.469 - 1183.653 Mark Ronson

Good luck punching that one up, Bronson. I'm going to go with A. Yes, it is the aroma of Tacoma.

1187.093 - 1197.581 Negin Farsad

Some combination of a paper mill and oil refinery and Tacoma's natural stank made a smell so strong it was immortalized in song. Not going to lie. It's a bop.

1198.001 - 1207.968 Unknown Panelist

Do you know that that mill is closing down? So the aroma of Tacoma is going away in the next few months. So sniff it while you got it, people.

1209.069 - 1234.29 Negin Farsad

All right, so here is your last question. GQ magazine published a list of the best smelling cities in the world, including New Orleans, which they praised for what combination of scents? Was it A, incense and sweat? Was it B, old beer and frying fat? Or was it C, strawberry hurricanes and puked up strawberry hurricanes?

Chapter 7: What is Mark Ronson's connection to famous songs?

1313.194 - 1313.854 Tom Papa

Oh, excuse me.

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1313.874 - 1315.235 Unknown Panelist

Oh, you are scrupulous.

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1315.475 - 1325.741 Tom Papa

So break that down. To travel that far in that period of time, how far did you have to travel per day and how much time did it take to travel, to run every day?

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1326.38 - 1338.709 Tara Dower

The least amount of miles I did in a day was about 35. And the most I ever did was 62 in a day. And every day I was moving for about, on average, like 17 and a half hours a day.

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1338.729 - 1354.22 Tom Papa

17 and a half hours. Okay. That's kind of amazing. And how much were you able to sleep? On average, about five hours. And at what point, I mean, I guess you ran from Maine to Georgia. So were you starting to hallucinate by the time you were in New York, say? Yeah.

1355.279 - 1379.723 Tara Dower

Yeah. Well, the compounding exhaustion came around, I'd say Maryland, it got pretty bad. I remember some like little hallucinations I had, like little devils sitting on logs and I saw a white cat and a lion and I saw my friend sitting on a log. So the hallucinations were getting pretty bad around like the middle of the trail. Maryland is about halfway through.

1380.043 - 1390.575 Unknown Panelist

Well, it must be comforting knowing, like, that's not real. There's not a cat and a devil here. Like, I might as well just keep running. There's no threat, you know? Yeah.

1390.595 - 1398.864 Tara Dower

Well, you know, I've had hallucinations during 100-mile races that I've done, and some of those have been really concerning. Yeah. And I think...

1399.424 - 1424.127 Tara Dower

oh give us an example i'm lucky um there was like a hunter with a huge huge ginormous gun and he was like asking me where i was going and what i was doing and i was like oh crap like is this real and it was in the middle of the night it was at 2 a.m on a trail by myself you know if you ask a hallucination if they're hallucination they have to tell you that's a rule Do you eat while you run? Yes.

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