Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 992 | Jase Opens Up About Being a Mean Kid (It Was All Willie’s Fault) & Zach’s New Podcast
Thu, 14 Nov 2024
Jase is accused of being “the mean one” during his childhood, though he’s prepared a defense that lays the blame squarely at Willie’s feet. Jase participates in a neighborhood tradition that he’s ignored for decades, and it turns out that he enjoys it even more now. Al looks back on his legacy in the pulpit as he witnesses two young preachers delivering a powerful sermon he authored decades ago, and Zach drops big news about his new podcast, “Not Yet Now,” premiering November 19. Check it out: Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/not-yet-now-with-zach-dasher/id1770712976 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5AfQIyrbRtYuQNN9kIqFw1 iHeart: https://iheart.com/podcast/238399575/ In this episode: Colossians 1, Colossians 4, verse 12 -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: Why does Jase think he was the mean one as a kid?
Well, you know what? Here's why, though, Jace, because you had the power. If I remember childhood correctly, you had the power. You were the alpha. You were the mean one. You were the one that. Like you had the, I remember you were the one that everybody was kind of, we were afraid of.
Yeah. Yeah, that's true. But I was not mean. Ah. Well. I don't know if I'd say that.
It's kind of like. Jay's, they have childhood trauma Christmas things going on, the Dashers.
Well, it's kind of like Si. He all the time says I'm negative. And let me tell you what that means. That means I don't agree with him. So he's like, well, you're just being negative. I'm like, no, I'm saying you're wrong. And so, look, you know how tough it was down there. My parents were trying to work out a way to put food on the table, and they kind of let the boys run wild.
We had very few rules. As young men, we had to work it out. And the only reason I earned that title is because I would, you know, come out on top in various fights. And cause it was always seemed like we all were the closest though.
That's why you fought the most.
Yeah.
And you were a couple of years older, which is always a big deal. Yeah. It was kind of funny when we had, uh, Edward Graham on, cause he was the youngest in the Graham family, but then he finally got really big and strong and he wound up whipping his older brother. And that kind of changed the dynamic. It sounded like.
Well, yeah, I just wasn't bluffing.
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Chapter 2: What is the scapegoat mechanism discussed in childhood?
So, and she's like, yeah, but we don't even know where I'm, what we're, what we're doing. She doesn't care. The journey.
Yeah. Yeah. That's a good point. Cause if you go like, if you, if you think about like a, like if you go off for a weekend and I was just talking to Jill about this today, about our vacation, we're planning. I was like, Honestly, Jill, I said, if we just go and get a house and just go out to eat with the family or cook meals just to be together. But think about it. We'll pay to do that.
But it's the same thing I'm doing here, right? It's just intentional. What's the point of it? It's who you're with. That's a great analogy.
Well, and it's also, it captures the thought that we were having in this text that we're kind of wrapping up, Colossians 1, 24 through 2, 5. The reason that the word, Jay, is you're contending or struggling, that Paul explained to the Colossian church, who he did not know personally, but he was invested in heavily to see them succeed for the gospel.
And I think that's part of that idea of paying forward what God has done for you to then have it go. Your legacy is, I want other people to take that torch and carry it. And I never thought about legacy as a young guy. But now that I'm about to be 60 years old, last week, this series I was mentioning, we started it with two young guys.
One of them is Rucker, who you guys have seen on the podcast before. And the other guy is Derek, who had never spoken on Sunday morning at our church before. But they're the two leaders of our Celebrate Recovery. And they're the fourth generation leadership. And these are people that we help lead to Christ, discipled. And now they're taking it.
And so when I was watching their sermon this week, because they had the R, which is realize that I'm not God, I'm powerless. Who was giving the sermon? This was Brian Rucker and Derek McQueen, who are the co-leaders now for Celebrate Recovery. And as part of this series, we're doing something we did 20 years ago.
But I was just, I felt when I was watching it, I mean, I was just teary because I thought, man, to get to see guys that you trained get it and get
relationship and understand the power of jesus and what gets to that moment and watch them now they're going to be doing this series you know as we go forward they're going to be the ones that are taking the mantle and going with it so i wouldn't have appreciated it you know 20 years ago but now that i'm 60 and you start seeing the people you train that take ministry and impact people and you're like this is what it's all about because once i cross over it'll be who i've impacted
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