Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 985 | Crowder Is the Twin Jase Wishes He Had & Learning to Surf from Eddie Vedder
Fri, 01 Nov 2024
Dove Award-winning Christian musician David Crowder buddies up with Jase, who gleefully claims their twin-ship. Crowder talks about his unusual start in the Christian music industry, who influenced his career the most, and what it was like to meet his musical hero, Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam. Jase identifies with Crowder’s song “Red Letters” in a major way, and Al manages to get Crowder to reveal what happened the one time he shaved off his beard. Listen to Crowder’s new single, “Somebody Prayed,” at https://www.crowdermusic.com/ today! -- Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: Who is David Crowder and what is his background?
I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to unashamed. As you, if you're watching, you can see that, uh, we, we have three boxes today. We have Zach in North Carolina. We have Al in the Southern layer. I'm still in the old house. I hadn't made the transition. And then we got solo Jace, which I think is a, is this a first, this first time we've ever had just Jace in the, in the layer.
Yeah, Phil's still down, but he's recuperating.
He's getting better. He had the procedure, and we're hoping, we've got our fingers crossed, that maybe on the next podcast, there will be a Phil sighting, a proof of life sighting.
Phil appearance is what you made sure he's not on any pain pills or mind offering substances.
It's a gamble either way. It's a gamble. I do know that he has ascribed to quit saying, give me a break after his third back break. He's like, I'm going to quit saying that. He was serious.
Give me a break. Okay. Here's three of them.
Here's three. Well, if you keep saying that, Phil, this may continue to happen.
And also he probably needs to quit saying for crying out loud. Cause he's probably done a lot of that as well.
Well, he's, he was as close to crying recently as I've ever seen him. He was hurting so bad. So Jay's our sister, I guess it takes a sister to think of things in a different way. Cause you know, the four of us grew up and, and I told dad this recently, I'm like, dad, I'm trying to be like super compassionate about your situation. Cause obviously, you know, I feel bad that you feel so bad.
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Chapter 2: What was it like for Crowder to meet Eddie Vedder?
He just didn't mention it. I'm like, man, I'm starting with a ham bone. No, that was already in there. And there was a ham bone in there from a honey-baked ham. So yeah, we had all the basics.
There's a spiritual lesson in here somewhere based on this conversation. Because I've been doing a lot of prep this morning. I had to get up early this morning and do prep for our podcast. And we're moving from this Jesus poem, which is... Awesome. And it's kind of like you have to- It's hard to leave it, to be honest, Jason. It's actually like, it kind of hit me that when you read it, you almost-
it kind of goes over your head. It's like, and so then the next part of it, because I mean, Jesus is the image of the invisible God. He's before all things. In him, all things hold together. The firstborn over the resurrection, you know, firstborn from the dead. And then all of a sudden, it's like the next phase is like, okay, this is where you were at in this process of creation and redemption.
And it's like you were alienated or excluded, you know, because of your, your minds and your behavior. But then he kind of gets into that maturity and, uh, And so I've really been wrestling with what that means. I mean, what is maturity? But even like the first thing you said when you said, Al, about you're not a compassionate person by nature because of the way we were raised.
Right.
But it kind of made me think we're all like that because I've really seen Phil mature. It's like once you get in Christ, the big sins... Usually evaporate quickly. I mean, like in my dad's life, he was basically headed to prison or the grave. And it's like, bam, all of a sudden you see these big sins, immorality and drunkenness and just breaking the law, man's law.
I mean, all this stuff just boom, went away. But then it's like that maturity in Christ becoming the character, having the character of Christ slowly comes up. It's like now I look at him, there's a compassionate side to him. I say, well, my mom. It really kind of moved me looking at it that way because really it's not the good things you do or the bad things you don't do. It's you becoming God.
the character of Christ because he's in you.
So now that's, that's a really good point. And you're exactly right. Cause here's the thing. I'm super compassionate with Lisa, with my kids, with my grandkids. Like if one of them gets hurt, you know, I'm instantly right there trying to help them. But if one, I'm saying it goes back to my raising, because if it's one of y'all, like, when Willie gets hurt, I just, it's funny to me.
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Chapter 3: How did Crowder's faith influence his music?
I got that figured out, man. Actually, here's my come to Jesus story. I was seven years old. We were in Tulsa, Oklahoma. My dad was a disciplinarian. He instilled in me and my brother, you don't go down that aisle until you know Christ. what you're doing. You've got to know what you're doing. Well, they dropped us off at Children's Church in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
So the adults go somewhere and the kids go somewhere and there's a student on stage and he's got a purple puppet. And the puppet's name is Eugene. So he's talking to Eugene and he's like, Eugene, do you want Jesus in your heart? And Eugene's like, Yes, I do. And I'm like, I want what Eugene's got.
And I'm right down that aisle, and my parents scoop us up, and we're headed to the hotel after the deal, and I'm in the back seat. I'm like crying. I'm crying. And my mom's like, what's wrong, David? I go, I'm so sorry. I asked Jesus in my heart tonight. So I feel like I came to the Lord under duress, under the threat of physical... I feel like, you know, I'm like one of the martyrs almost.
So now you're still doing puppetry. Still doing puppetry. Never underestimate the power of puppetry is my point of the story right there. Eugene, years later, um, I'm back in Tulsa, Oklahoma, but we're playing, we're playing at the church and, uh, Ricky Skaggs is there and we're, we're with Ricky and I, I tell him, you know, in Tulsa is where I, is where I came to Jesus.
And somebody overhears the story and says, uh, do you know that the pastor of this church, that's the guy that had the purple puppet. Do you want to meet him? I'm like,
absolutely so I go meet the pastor and then I tell the pastor the story and he goes well I've got Eugene in my office do you want to go he's still working dude he's still and then he opens his case and there's this you know this puppet just laying there lifeless and I'm like I don't think this is, this doesn't feel right. And he's like, I've got four of them.
I'm like, Oh no, like there's four of them. That's too much, man. It was hard to take in. Yeah.
Did y'all, did he reenact it? Did y'all like have a conversation?
I told him close that case up and I don't want to, I don't want to see that.
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Chapter 4: What story does Crowder share about shaving his beard?
Did you know that?
It's right downtown. It's a really great mix. I want to say Posada, but that doesn't sound quite right. Zapatos? Zapatos, that's it.
Look at that.
Oh, my.
You've been there?
Oh, yes.
Did you know my cousin owns it? So my mom's first cousin, Janie, her husband is the one that owns it. And he used to work at Superior Grill in Shreveport. And that's where he learned how to cook. And so then he started his own restaurant in Texarkana.
Yeah, you can drink a pitcher to that salsa.
Oh, man, it's so good. But anyway, so you were talking about this idea, but when I was reading it, it so resonated with me because we grew up, Jason and I, me more because Jason's pretty young, in Junction City, Arkansas, which is also Junction City, Louisiana. And right in the downtown, the red light is the dividing line.
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Chapter 5: What are the cooking anecdotes shared in the podcast?
And they tell me, hey, you gotta be really careful about the keys that you pick. So girls sing here, boys sing here. Man, I went to a Pearl Jam concert up in Dallas and every single person in that place was at the top of their lungs.
singing along you know no lyrics on the screen or nothing they're just singing their heads off and i'm like man that's what we want to do we want to do something that stirs the soul that just causes you to erupt i mean this music is just it's it's part of how we're put together to and you have the best subject on planet earth oh could you sing about anything better no yeah so but it forms your imagination in a way that that a a
didactic sermon just can't i mean you you talk about forming people's idea who god is and who what the kingdom is i mean there i mean it is one of the most powerful mediums for forming which is why it's terrifying too you know you know you know that it's sneaky and so and it's also on you know i don't trust it those moments that you're you're caught up in something um They feel great.
They do form you. You do get some sense of understanding of what's intellectually difficult to grasp. But I trust the moments when you're stuck in traffic more than I do when we're all singing at the same time. You see who's on the throne when you're upset at the car in front of you. Yeah. That one gets me.
Of course, I learned that in Willie's interview that you don't drive.
man I gave up Atlanta Georgia is not where you want to go I drive but it's like I have a I have like a 64 international harvester but it's like driving along it feels like it's trying to kill you it's like driving a lawnmower so I just drive you know I just drive around the neighborhood I don't go anywhere important I just you know get out and see the sunshine
I just thought it was funny because you, like me, we look homeless, and now you're basically a hitchhiker, which is, we were talking about growing in Christ, you know, and you think he was homeless and was basically, you know, walking around. You know, I mean, it's weird. But, yeah.
so i thought that was interesting but another thing in that interview that i listened that i wanted you to share because he asked you what like venues that uh stood out in your mind that you've been able to perform yeah i don't know if you remember that film or yeah i told him about the film yeah i wanted you to share that dirty dave man dirty dave well first of all what i didn't tell him is uh it took us a really long time i wanted to play the film more it's a it's one of those
I mean, classic rock and roll venue. Everybody's played there.
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