Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1100 | Phil Robertson Believed in the Broken—Now They Carry His Gospel Torch
Thu, 29 May 2025
Phil’s “yes” to Jesus changed everything for the broken. His first convert was Paul Stephens—the son-in-law of the man who led him to Christ, Bill Smith—a full-circle moment that launched a movement. Mac and Mary Owen reflect on how Phil’s faith sparked a legacy of healing, confession, and gospel transformation that continues to shape tens of thousands of lives today.“ Unashamed” Episode 1100 is sponsored by: https://chefiq.com — Get 15% off during their FLASH SALE when you use promo code UNASHAMED! https://andrewandtodd.com or call 888-888-1172 — These guys are the real deal. Get trusted mortgage guidance and expertise from someone who shares your values! https://puretalk.com/unashamed — Support veterans by switching to America’s wireless company for as little as $25 per month today! https://cozyearth.com/unashamed — Get 40% off sheets, towels, and more when you use our link or code UNASHAMED! Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What does it mean to be unashamed?
I am unashamed. What about you?
Welcome back to the Unashamed podcast. I was wondering which one it was. Yeah, so if you're listening, I had to rephrase it because I got mixed up there for a second. But yeah, Al and Jace are still not back with us yet, but they'll be back in the next episode. And so in the meantime, we brought in some dear friends. Mac, you've been on before. Yep.
You brought your beautiful bride, Mary Whitney, Mac and Mary Owen. Mentors of mine, mentors in the faith of me and Jill. Mary, good to have you here as well.
Thank you. I'm glad to be here. I feel like I'm on holy ground. Being back here and to celebrate Phil's life, it's a beautiful thing to get to be here all together with our family.
Yeah, I love what you said, being back here. Of course, we're living in Colorado now, and everybody back here is talking about how hot it is. I said, well, it snowed at our house a foot and a half last week.
They're 9,000 feet elevation, right?
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Chapter 2: Who are Mac and Mary Owen?
Right, 9,000 feet. And Phil would look at me and say, Owens, why would anybody want to live there?
That's what I was thinking. And we got Paul Stevens, too, one of my other favorite guys in the world, mentors. Both of y'all are former elders of mine, so I sat under your eldership and leadership for many, many years. So, Paul, welcome to the podcast.
Thank you, bud. I'm glad to be here.
Yeah, so here's what we're going to do today. We're still in the week of just talking about Phil's life, what he meant to all of us. And so one of the things I want to do today, have you guys on, because y'all are kind of in the thick of it with Phil. I mean, at the peak of... I would say his ministry, you guys were in the trenches.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, absolutely. So you're in for a treat. I'm telling you both, and all these stories intertwine, so we're going to talk a little bit. I want to hear both of y'all's, all y'all's stories today. And really... Thinking about my own life, and I came into the church at White Street Road in 1996, 1995, actually, summer after 95, three camps you had.
My parents, you know, obviously went to seminary there, and there's a whole lot of roots here, but I came back, And, uh, and that started for me a trajectory in my life that like, I didn't, I'm telling you, I was an insecure little boy projecting like, uh, I was a man, but I wasn't. And y'all may say it took a little longer to get out of that. I don't know.
But, uh, but being, being around you guys was, and being around Phil and just the DNA of the ministry at White Street Road was amazing. I would say that I came into a renewal movement, a revival that was happening. So I want to talk about that if you guys are cool with that.
Yeah, absolutely.
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Chapter 3: How did Phil's faith influence others?
I got kicked out of school probably when I was 15, 16. And then you go and you meet. I meet with Wayne Spruill, who was the head coach at West Monroe Junior High. We called it junior high then. It's middle school now. But anyway, so he was the head coach, and he was going to go start a new football program in a high school called Watchdog Christian.
And he came to our home and asked if I would like to be a part of that and come play football. And actually, they would give me half tuition and get me a summer job And actually, I work with the police department. Oh, wow. Yeah. That's where I met William Guyton, by the way.
He was another... Man, you're bringing up a lot of names. I know Wayne Spruill. I know William Guyton. We go back a long way, Paul. We really do.
They were starting Washtenaw Christian at this moment, right? Correct. Which your dad... was involved in that, right?
Yes, yes, he was. And Washtenaw Christian started at the church, isn't that correct? Yeah, it did.
The first high school was at White's Ferry Road. But to be honest with you, I think they never told me who sponsored me for half my tuition, but I think it was your dad. It probably was. I really do. I always thought it was him. Nobody said, but I knew he had contributed a bunch to it. And I felt like that it was your dad that helped paid for half of my schooling.
And I had a summer job to pay for the other half. That's amazing.
He saw potential in you. He was like, man, we got to get that boy.
You know, I don't know what they saw. I didn't see it.
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