Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1069 | Jase Gets Offended by a Slang Term & Zach’s Hairdo Causes Chaos at Church
Fri, 04 Apr 2025
Jase tries to keep up with the kids by learning a new slang phrase—though the results are questionable. Zach’s questionable life choices once led to a haircut so awful it disrupted church, with Al calling him out mid-sermon.The guys also dive into why humans invent "gods" like Superman instead of submitting to the one true God. Plus, they discuss how eternal life starts with an internal life with Jesus. In this episode: John 5, verses 1-30; Ezekiel 37, verses 11-14; 2 Corinthians 5, verses 4-16 “Unashamed” Episode 1069 is sponsored by: https://vom.org/unashamed — Request your free copy of When Faith is Forbidden today by visiting the website or by calling 844-463-4059. https://fieldofgreens.com — Get 20% off your first order to get started today! https://liberty.com/unashamed — Get your application fee waived and take the next step toward your future! https://rocketmoney.com/unashamed — Cancel unwanted subscriptions with Rocket Money. The average person saves up to $720 a year when using all of the app's premium features! Listen to Not Yet Now with Zach Dasher on Apple, Spotify, iHeart, or anywhere you get podcasts. — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What slang term offends Jase?
I am unashamed. What about you? Welcome back to Unashamed. We were having conversations, as we often do, in between. One of these days we've got to have a podcast of the in-between conversations. They're quite entertaining.
We'll do that when we get to the end, because then I won't have to worry about us getting canceled.
Well, that's true, because then you're worried about it. So we were talking about our old friend Cole Pryne, who's up there with you, who was one of our original guys. that was with us way back when we did In the Woods with Phil. And at first he was just kind of – I mean, he was very knowledgeable, but he was kind of working.
He wasn't worn off. He was the OG.
The OG. So you said that, and then Jason and I were trying to guess. We had many – I thought pretty good guesses.
I think we gave a dozen possibilities. Well, my first thing I said, I thought offensive guard, but maybe he lost weight after high school. Yeah. I thought he played offensive guard. Yeah.
I said official gentleman was another one.
I tried to tie in the women's doctor thing, which got awkward. The OG. I thought, is he talking about birth pains? Was he the firstborn? Yeah. Yeah.
That didn't work. So as Jason and I were guessing for like five minutes, you never heard a word we said. And you're like, oh. And so Maddie, of all people, Maddie knew what it was. OG, which I'm sure a lot of our audience will know.
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Chapter 2: What embarrassing haircut incident happened at church?
Because we did. We came in a little bit late, and then we walked down the aisle all the way to the front left. So the whole church, a thousand people, it was captive. What in the world are Jeff and Zach doing?
And everybody was pointing, and I noticed it, and I thought, okay, I'm going to get these boys next week. You're going to come in and interrupt my zone. Next week, you will get thrown under the bus. And so it was – I don't know. If I could ever lay my hands on it, I'd have to read it to you guys. I remember one of them was – Which one is the elder son and which one is the preacher's son?
Yeah, yeah.
That was one of the things. So to your point, Jace –
Yeah, I wasn't living for Jesus when I was trying to be the OG. Me and Jet were trying to be the OG. So we repented. I do wear a flat belt hat sometimes, which I saw one of the brutal comments on the YouTube page told me to quit wearing costumes.
He has a point. If you're going to read the comments, then read them with an open mind. I actually agree with that.
What do you call him, Elmer Fudd? But that's not a flat bill hat. That's actually a Filson hat, which is a hunting brand.
No, I think he was talking about the shape of the bill. Okay, well. I mean, look, I'm way more open because to me, when you talked about your mistakes, you listed things that technically none of them were wrong. You pierced your ears and you bleached your hair. You can do that for Jesus. That's fine. We're not under the Levitical law. You can get a tattoo.
I think the things that y'all were doing in the dark behind the door. There were some things. Where the gangsta lifestyle was presenting a problem. It turned out to be a cry for help, Jason. That's what I'm saying. That's the sign. We're confusing the sign with what.
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Chapter 3: Why do humans create gods like Superman?
I mean, it's just a continued attempted recreation of who Jesus is. To me, it's the greatest form of flattery you could have is imitation. Oh, yeah.
All the Greek gods, too. Think about all the stories of Zeus and Apollos and all these Greek gods. But where it's different is, yes, there's a deity to these gods, and then there's a humanity as well. But their humanity, well, two things that stick out to me is, one, their deity is not all-powerful. They're limited in their power, all of them.
Superman was limited in his power because Kryptonite could take him down. But the God of the Bible is unlimited in his power. He's unlimited in his sovereignty. He's unlimited in his self-sufficient, self-sustaining, self-referential, fully aware of himself. He's wholly other than. He doesn't need anything. He can't be defeated. He can't be conquered. So that's missing in all the other gods.
And then on the humanity side, they tend to focus on the fallen nature of humanity. So you have a God that's limited in power mixed with kind of the corruption of humanity. And in the God of the Bible, you have unlimited power embodied in in a body that is completely pure. There's no sin. There's no depravity. There's no immorality. He's completely moral and good and perfect.
That's like a crazy contrast because you have the transcendent and the imminent in a way that doesn't make sense to the human mind.
Which I think is why they created, back to my original thing, they created Batman because he's a person of the night and the dark and He's sort of this shadowy figure that you're not. Is he a good guy? Is a bad guy? I mean, he's he's doing good things. We don't know. So the whole ambiguous nature of this superhero in one of the movies, I think it was when he was in with Heath Ledger.
He said, we're going to get you down in the mud with us for a while. And I just, you know, it's this idea that somehow we can get God down at our level and we can show him how to operate. You know, it's just, I don't know. It seems clear to me as the same humanity kind of continues to run these same patterns, culture after culture, you know, dynasty after dynasty.
Hmm. Well, it's because that's why they don't want to do pictures and films about God. Because if he's all-powerful and there's no weakness and all that, well, then you've got to surrender to him. Yeah. They don't want to do that. No. So that's why the Christian people have risen up, and they're the ones doing quality shows about God.
It's a good point, though, when you think about – the story of humanity, like we read back the Old Testament and the New Testament even, and we think, man, look at these idols, look at the things they worshipped, and we're like, man, that sounds so stupid. But it's only because we are looking back with hindsight this 2020, but if you think about
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Chapter 4: What is the significance of eternal life with Jesus?
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Yeah, and I think the point, the reason this caused problems is because you have to get in the mind of who he's talking to and their history. So I think what caused the problems, why are they so upset about it? Because when you first read this, like when I was a young Christian, I thought, what are you talking about? Hard-hearted? The guy's healed? And you can't celebrate because...
he did it on the day we're supposed to rest and he's picking, because it really wasn't about him even being healed.
If he hadn't said pick up his mat, they would have had a problem. They'd have just been running around.
But, so that's why I think when you first read it, I think a lot of people that are not Christians, they're like, well, this is the dumbest story because it doesn't seem realistic. So everybody would say that's a good thing. But the problem was, The way Jesus words this, when he starts talking about my father is always at work. So you have to go back to the creation story.
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Chapter 5: What lessons can we learn from persecuted Christians?
You know, it's the same thing that's referred to, same Greek word, is when he rose, the idea is rise up. And so in essence, it's almost like a resurrection, which he's going to get into a little bit later, that there is both resurrection now and later, which we've referenced already. So I think it's interesting that he chose this moment,
in an argument about the Sabbath to really zone in on the idea of the resurrection, which is a much bigger point, a much finer point that he was talking about. And I look back, you know, in the other Gospels, all three of those highlighted two other instances. One is, you remember when he healed the guy with a shriveled hand? Yeah. That was on the Sabbath.
And then also another time he got into it with them was when his disciples were picking heads of grain as they're walking along on the Sabbath. and eating, and they said, they can't do that. That means they're working because they're picking these heads of grain. So the point is, Jesus has done this multiple times throughout his ministry.
And those are just the ones we see recorded, this concept that we weren't made just to be law keepers. The law was made to benefit us. The fact we couldn't keep it wound up being our downfall, but we had the cart before the horse.
If we're trying to somehow focus in on law, because I would argue you could make the same statement when he said that, you know, man was not made for the Sabbath, the Sabbath for man. You could say the same thing for any law. They were made for our benefit and our good. But the fact we can't keep them doesn't mean that somehow we can hold the law up as our salvation. It never works.
Well, and he's eventually going to get to that when he says, you know, you put your faith in Moses, but you don't believe what he said about me, which most people then go Google what Moses said about Jesus, and you start getting crickets because AI can't figure out exactly what that is. And, of course, because they're missing the whole point about the glimpses of
Jesus being predicted or fulfilling the very things that was given to the people. I mean, Jesus, man, when he said, I didn't come here to abolish the law, I came to fulfill it. which you get the Sermon on the Mount, which is so awesome once you put it kind of in the proper context, because he's like, you're justifying everything you do, saying, you know, I haven't killed anybody.
And Jesus is like, yeah, but if you want to, it's just as bad. That's right. They're like, oh, wait, what? Who is this guy?
Which winds up being the whole point. You're right, Jess. I thought the same thing about the Sermon on the Mount and the Beatitudes, the idea that... We want to do the right thing because it's the right thing to do. Yeah. Not because we want to know how close to the line can I possibly get without crossing it. That's the way a legalist thinks. He's like, no, no, we got to back up way before that.
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Chapter 6: How do we reconcile AI with authenticity?
I mean, I am the word in flesh. And so when he says that all of a sudden, wait a minute, which is why then he shifts over and talks about the testimony. That's been around that says he is who he says he is. So I just I'd never seen that before. I'd never noticed that.
But I thought that was a pretty good take on who Jesus is in this text and the fact that he's putting himself out there fully, which is why he went down this road.
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Chapter 7: What does John 5 teach us about healing and faith?
So I read all that to show you there's glimpses of the fulfillment of what Ezekiel is saying in here. There's obviously these truths that Jesus is with God, in God, equal with God, but a different role, surrendering himself as a human.
And he's offering restoration for Israel, which impacts us, because when you then go to Acts 2, which is what Ezekiel 35 and 36 is talking about, the Spirit being poured out, you see all these groups of Israelites from all nations gathered up. A miracle happens. The Holy Spirit is poured out. Jesus is declared. They respond. They receive the Spirit. And then what do they do?
They go to all the nations. Preaching Jesus. So it is this not yet now flavor in John 5. It's the only way to wrap your head around it, in my opinion.
And the only way we could do it was the way he closed that text in 2 Corinthians 5.21. God made him. who had no sin to become sin for us so that we might become the righteousness of God. So you couldn't do it. It's not something you could do on your own. So in essence, the way I like to say it is eternal life begins with internal life.
It's that which has changed within us, the Holy Spirit, which then allows us to look forward to the promise that we're already living as we're here on earth.
Yeah. The end of Ezekiel 37, if you look at the last verse, it has language. It's very similar to, the indwellment of the Holy Spirit, the temple language that we use a lot, that God's going to make us home in humans now. He says that at the end of Ezekiel chapter 37. He says it's going to make us home in the people now. And so when you're reading it, you read about Israel.
I think it's important to go back and also read Paul's words in Romans 9 to help us get a better understanding of what he means by Israel in the grand scheme of things. Paul says this in Romans chapter 9. And I won't pontificate it. I'll just read to you what Paul says.
In other words, it is not the children by physical descent who are God's children, but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's offspring. It's the children of the promise.
Which ties into that John 1 when he started off when he said, Yet to all who received him, those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God. You know, when he gave his general thoughts of Jesus in that first chapter.
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