Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1049 | Jase Dives In to the Mysteries of Lesser Gods, Fallen Angels & Rebellion
Fri, 28 Feb 2025
Jase, Zach, and Al explore the texts that shed some light on the mysteries of other, lesser gods, celestial rebellion, and fallen angels on earth who created human hybrids. Al poses a theory as to why the Israelites had to wander the desert for 40 years after escaping Egypt. Jesus turned Judaism on its head when he challenged the traditional meaning of “temple,” and Zach gets to the heart of what sin truly is at its core. In this episode: John 2, verse 12; 2 Corinthians 3, verse 18; Revelation 1, verse 5; Ezekiel 43, verse 6; Acts 15, verses 16-17; Matthew 24, verses 30-36; Mark 13, verses 3-4, 29-30 — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is the significance of the 40 years in the desert?
Yeah, well, that's new theology that, look, that I'm open to. Because, is that what Zach's bringing up? I recently discovered just... I don't know all the details. Maybe you can help me with this. But in 2010, there was a lot of notable new transcripts found from the scrolls. And I'm not sure it was the Dead Sea Scrolls, but I was reading something about this.
But it clarified and validated a lot of these things. these Hebrew words used, and the one he's mentioning is, I think that's Psalm 82, isn't it?
Elohim's what's mentioned in multiple, I mean, it's mentioned in Deuteronomy.
I know it's mentioned there, and I think maybe Deuteronomy 32.
The idea, though, is Elohim is a Hebrew word for God, not to be confused with Yahweh, which is the one true God, the supreme being, But there is this word, Elohim, that's used throughout the Old Testament. Exactly.
It's also used as like morning stars, sons of God, which, you know, it goes back to that Genesis 6. I think the basic theology on this is that you have Genesis 2 and 3, man's rebellion. But then you have Genesis 6, which it's like there's a celestial being, sons of God rebellion in the... God's space, I guess. And so then they come down and somehow or another get tied up with humanity.
They procreate with humans and create... Think Goliath, you know, giant... Nephilim, they create these... We talked about this with the fuzzy creature guy.
Yeah, well, the more I've studied this, I think there's something to it.
Yeah.
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Chapter 3: What is the relationship between sin and the presence of God?
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Well, whatever was fixed to happen, that's what the context of the discussion, you know, would you agree? It seems pretty simple to me, but I'm just telling you, people read this and go crazy. He says, do you see all these things? Well, what things? The temple and all its buildings. The stones. The stones, yeah. Or I just think the arena.
Well, in Mark 13's account of it, they actually say, look at these wonderful stones. Yeah. Are these wonderful buildings.
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Chapter 5: What is the meaning of 'cross-pollination' in a spiritual context?
And so he gets down on his hands and knees and he won't even look. And he tells his servant, keep looking out over the Sea of Galilee. And so seven times the servant looks out. And on the seventh time, it said a cloud the size of a man's hand came out of the Sea of Galilee. and then began to gather and of course brings rain.
And it rained so hard that, I mean, you know, Elijah just took off running and ran all the way back to Israel. And so I just think that idea again about the cloud, like you said, is the idea of the provision of God power of God, the interaction of God. And even when Jesus left here in Acts chapter one, remember what it said? A cloud hid him from their sight.
And then the angel shows up and says, why are you looking this way? He's coming back the same way. So we're living in that, as Jace put it, that who is timeframe of the Holy Spirit living in us. It's a really powerful study.
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Chapter 8: What role do lesser gods and fallen angels play in scripture?
I was looking up cross-pollination. Cross-pollination. Actually, the transfer of pollen from one plant to another. That's a metaphor. I use it as a metaphor. Well, I know, but I was thinking. Isn't that what the cross of Jesus does? It cross-pollinates. Well, it cross-pollinates over the global. The cross. The cross-pollination.
Well, you can always plant on Jays to look at the difference. I like that. I've never thought about that before, the cross-pollination, but that's actually.
Well, I've always thought about Jesus, you know, because we're so used to, I think, Phil labeled me a germaphobe. And this is pre-COVID because I just noticed every time I shook two or three hundred hands, the next day I got sick. So I thought it had nothing to do with me being labeled a germaphobe. I thought, why don't we just fist bump? But then people don't like that.
And even two or three times at my last event, they put out the fist bump, I put out the hand, and then they went to the hand and I went to the fist. And it was like, I had my... And then you're collapsing your hand over their fist. And then it got so awkward that whatever encounter we thought we were going to have did not end well. But my point was, Jesus was like the, what is the opposite?
Like the anti-contagion in that he would not only not, like he would touch a leper, not only would he not get leprosy, but he was contagious in a positive way. He was the cross pollination. A spiritual contagion.
You just touch the hem of his garment and you find healing.
Yes. That's what I mean. So it's like, that's why if you have germaphobe tendencies, Jesus is truly your answer because it's like the anti-gene and pollination thing. of, oh, don't cough on me. And you're like, oh, Jesus, please cough on me because then I'll no longer cough. I think it's kind of cool.
Well, and let's face it, the whole going through COVID thing as a culture and as a nation, we saw the extreme versions of people so fearful about somehow getting something that it turns out most people are going to get anyway, because that's the nature of a virus like that, that we saw that and thought, Ooh, I don't want to be that person with the triple mask and the, you know, face shield.
And well, right.
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