Unashamed with the Robertson Family
Ep 1032 | Jase Mourns While Missy Celebrates the Same Occasion & Jesus Is the World’s Light Switch
Thu, 30 Jan 2025
Jase spends a day in mourning, but Missy spends the same day in celebration. Zach gets called out for watching a certain violent movie, and Jase’s first-time adventure nearly gives his son a heart attack. The guys explore John’s description of Jesus as “the Light” and how people can find balance between doing good works as a pursuit of God and trusting Jesus to be our salvation. In this episode: John 3, verses 19-21; John 20, verses 1-22; 2 Corinthians 5, verses 20-22; Romans 8, verses 10-35 — Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: Why is Jase mourning while Missy celebrates?
I am unashamed.
What about you?
So welcome back to Unashamed. If you're watching the podcast today, you'll see that I'm in my new lair, finally. Thank you, Zach, and production team, for getting me set up down here in the new lair. We bought a new house down here, and so it's taken me a little while to get transferred over, but I'm here.
You're welcome. You're welcome, Al.
Yeah. See, Zach, I can give you praise when praise is worthy.
So did I pay for that? Is that what you're saying?
Maybe. Maybe. A little. Jace, you look great.
Jace, your setup is, you've got the, we've got to work on your lighting out. You're a little too bright. Jace looks, I mean, your setup looks good there.
Well, I got a new studio here. Thank you. I have no lights on, Zach. This is just my brightness that's jumping onto the screen. So just so you know.
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Chapter 2: What funny incident nearly gave Jase's son a heart attack?
Which it kind of was a gift to feel too, right? Because when you're like, I missed out this duck season, you're like, yeah, you didn't really miss anything.
Well, to use your analogies that when Tom Brady left the Patriots, you know, he kind of smiled that Tampa Bay went to Zupo and New England went terrible. I mean, somewhere deep down, it was like. Yeah, you needed me. So, yeah, I think that's probably the same with Dad.
No, it's true.
But there's always – You still got Gronk.
You're the Gronk. So you still got the Gronkowski. And you're kind of moving into the Tom Brady role now. So it's a momentum shift. And what we're doing in the podcast, too, you know, we're kind of new territory here.
Well, with that, I didn't know if you all wanted to segue into John Mullen speaking.
Well, you did start in the pre-show, which we don't air. It's just our – inner conversation. You said, are we going to get into the Bible or what?
So this is, I think that was a, I had been itching to get back to John and James, you got a little transition to bring us. Cause we left off at verse six, but I want to, I want to get there, but you had a little transition for it.
I had a question. You know, when you read verse four of John one, when it says in him was life and that life was the light of men. I was just wondering, what does that mean? What is your take on what that means? I actually asked my wife. I was like, what do you think that means? And she said, well, you're the one doing a podcast on this.
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Chapter 3: What was significant about Jase's duck hunting season?
And it has really introduced a lot of things, I think, that is helping shape churches in North America, especially about this idea of creation and new creation and heaven and earth coming together and the kingdom and those kind of things. But I listened to a dissertation he had on Romans 8 and getting back to this vocation idea. And I'm telling you, this made a lot of sense to me.
I wanted to run it by you. And... But in Romans 8, you think, here you have this beautiful picture of a new creation, and it kind of lumps in what many people believe as this earth being renovated. In Romans 8, where it says, the creation, this is verse 19, waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed, for the creation was subjected to frustration and
not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjects it. You remember that, that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage, decay, and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God. And always, I've really never focused on that so much about, because I've always thought it doesn't matter where we live as long as I'm with who I want to be with.
I want to be with Jesus. I want to be with my wife. I want to be with other people that I love, my family and friends. But having said that, you know, it goes on to say then that we'll have the redemption of our bodies. That's the part I've always zeroed in on, verse 23. You know, we have the first fruits and we groan inwardly.
So my point is, though, when he gets to 26, getting back to this vocation, he then transitions and says, in the same way, the Spirit, in the same way as what? Us having the Spirit... We get this new body. We've grown wanting to have this body that Jesus had in John 20 when he was eating the fish and he was going through walls and levitating just for fun.
All these things, and we tie that into 1 John 3, which I mention a lot, that says when he comes, we as his children will receive, it says we will be like him. So giving you the impression, oh, we're going to get a new body like Jesus did, this new creation. But he transitions in 26 and says, in the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for.
All of a sudden he makes a transition into modern day, having the spirit. And I think this is really powerful, but the spirit himself intercedes for us with groans that words cannot express. And the world sees this, us praying and praying after Jesus things, wanting people to have their lives transformed and all these sorts of things.
Well, then when he gets to 28, which is one of the most famous verses ever, it says, and we know that in all things, and I'll read it like it's translated here. It says, God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose, which that called is the same.
So if you look up the word vocation, the Latin word for that is the same place where we get the word called, which I thought was interesting. But in the Greek, he said, look, the translations are leaving out one key word. And if you insert it, it changes a lot of the ways we view this verse. And the Greek word that he highlighted was, and I'll just insert it here.
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