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The Viall Files

E911 Going Deeper – Tom Sandoval and Victoria Lee Robinson

Wed, 02 Apr 2025

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Welcome back to The Viall Files: Going Deeper edition.  He’s back! Tom Sandoval returns with his girlfriend Victoria Lee Robinson to get into the past year of his life. Has he grown? Has he changed? Has he learned anything along the way? You’ll have to tune in to find out! “I don’t want to get into the past...”  Listen to Humble Brag with Cynthia Bailey and Crystal Kung Minkoff! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/humble-brag-with-crystal-and-cynthia/id1774286896 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@humblebragpod Listen To Disrespectfully now! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrespectfully/id1516710301 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCh8MqSsiGkfJcWhkan0D0w Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/  To Order Nick’s Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com  Are you struggling with any sort of dating, relationship, or life dilemma? Do you want all the answers? Email [email protected] with your question in the subject line to express interest in appearing on the show!  To advertise on this podcast please email: [email protected] or go to: https://advertising.libsyn.com/theviallfiles   Thank You to Our Sponsors: Mint Mobile - No matter how you say it, don’t overpay for it. Shop data plans at https://mintmobile.com/viall Revolve - For a limited time, you can shop a curated selection of our favorite styles at https://revolve.com/viall and receive 15% off your first order with code VIALL. Shipstation - Calm the chaos of order fulfillment with the shipping software that delivers. Switch to ShipStation today. Go to https://shipstation.com and use code VIALLFILES to sign up for your FREE trial. Timestamps: (00:01) - Intro (00:56) - Last Time (04:09) - How Did You Meet (12:11) - Victoria Discovers Scandoval (21:46) - Bad Habits (28:57) - Cheat That Way (31:28) - Learning From Past (38:32) - Traitors (42:28) - Glowing Skin (44:09) - Schwartz (47:55) - The Future (50:25) - Vanderpump Is Toxic? (52:26) - James (54:35) - Jax (59:00) - Moving On (01:00:58) - First Date (01:04:04) - Past Boyfriends (01:06:07) - Castmates (01:09:31) - Next Steps (01:10:08) - Chrishell (01:18:39) - Outro Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @tomsandoval1 @victorialeerobinson @ciaracrobinson @justinkaphillips  @leahgsilberstein @dereklanerussell

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Chapter 1: What were the highlights of Tom Sandoval's past year?

28.456 - 30.037 Nick Viall

You guys ready? Should we cheers first? Let's cheers.

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30.197 - 34.579 Unknown Speaker 1

Yes. Tom. Cheers. Welcome back, Victoria.

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34.599 - 34.819 Nick Viall

Thank you.

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Chapter 2: How did Tom and Victoria meet?

34.859 - 36.9 Unknown Speaker 1

Welcome to the Vile Falls. Thanks for having me back.

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37.541 - 51.928 Nick Viall

Great to have you guys back. Cheers. Let's take a sip. Yes. This is Tom's. Yes. It's called Tom's. It's called Tom's. Tom's Good Lovin'. Brought to you by the good men of Tom Schwartz and Tom Sandoval. Yes. It's a port blended bourbon. Oh, my God.

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51.968 - 54.489 Unknown Speaker 1

It's strong. It's 90 proof.

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56.03 - 56.59 Victoria Fuller

It's like a tiny sip.

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58.134 - 60.396 Unknown Speaker 1

It's good. Right? It's good. It's smooth, right?

61.377 - 64.06 Tom Sandoval

You feel like you taste the port finish on the end?

64.321 - 80.898 Nick Viall

I got to say, I'm not a connoisseur. It's very good, though. Thank you, man. I appreciate that. And absolutely drink it. I will absolutely drink it. I am absolutely drinking it. Tom, I'm really excited to have you here. I was a little nervous coming back here. Yeah, I would imagine. I honestly thought there was no way you would come back on this show.

81.078 - 89.582 Tom Sandoval

It took some convincing on your part and Dylan helped. Dylan Efron, he definitely helped. That was, we appreciate Dylan, yeah.

Chapter 3: What was Victoria's reaction to Scandoval?

89.682 - 97.505 Nick Viall

Yeah, I think a lot of people will be surprised to see you here as well. Good, we like surprises, right? We do like surprises. Do you want to talk about the first episode at all?

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97.525 - 114.287 Tom Sandoval

Oh, man. That was a lot. I, um, I was going through a lot. Obviously I was in a very different place in my life and yeah. I mean, first off, I know that, um, we had talked like, which was, it was my fault. Like we had texted that we were, you know, I'm glad you acknowledged that. No, it was.

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115.147 - 118.611 Victoria Fuller

I was actually there right before he showed up. I was with him.

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118.811 - 121.113 Nick Viall

Oh, you were? I was with him. You guys were dating then?

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121.314 - 133.806 Victoria Fuller

Yeah, I was with him. He had no clue. I actually asked him because he was full on bawling his eyes out right before he even saw you because he was talking to me about his friend Ali.

133.906 - 136.028 Nick Viall

And you mentioned that. I'm actually wearing Ali's shirt.

136.048 - 153.194 Victoria Fuller

And we had a night. We had a long night. And yeah, I asked him the night before and I was like, do you have anything tomorrow? He goes, no, no, I'm good. And then all of a sudden call comes and I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? I'm like, this could not be more terrible.

154.254 - 171.667 Tom Sandoval

What happened was, is I had a Google calendar with my manager and we had set up a date for me to come in here. And then you texted me like, you know, I don't know, a few days, five days earlier to change the date, but you had texted me directly. And so it didn't go on my Google calendar, but I was like, no, it's fine.

171.727 - 172.148 Nick Viall

It's fine.

Chapter 4: How has Tom changed since the Scandoval controversy?

180.338 - 186.325 Nick Viall

We're here now. That's all that matters. It was quite the episode.

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186.525 - 207.839 Tom Sandoval

Yeah, it was. I had been up. We had gone out. I'd been up all night. You process grief at different times. Sure. At that point, that was, like, one of the first times it, like, really hit me that, like, about my friend, you know, emotionally and mentally about everything with my friend Ali who had passed away.

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207.999 - 225.824 Tom Sandoval

And it just was, like, I was just up all night just, like, sobbing and, like, just, like, talking about him. I was, like, really sad because... Obviously, I was like, I really liked her and I really wanted her to meet him and like just that whole, you know, just all of it.

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226.124 - 230.105 Victoria Fuller

That was the first time he ever poured his heart out, like ever even spoke about him to me.

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230.265 - 230.525 Tom Sandoval

Oh, really?

230.805 - 235.946 Victoria Fuller

And so if you notice on your podcast, his eyes are super puffy. It was just from crying.

Chapter 5: What are Tom's bad habits and how is he working to change them?

236.226 - 242.428 Tom Sandoval

Yeah. And he was. Oh, no. I mean, he was drinking. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. OK. Yeah. Yeah.

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243.228 - 244.188 Victoria Fuller

We had both been drinking.

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244.268 - 244.689 Tom Sandoval

I wasn't sure.

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244.709 - 247.29 Victoria Fuller

If I would have known, I would have been like, no, we're going to bed.

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247.33 - 251.251 Tom Sandoval

Oh, I mean, I would have too. Yeah. Yeah. I just, I completely forgot.

251.271 - 255.613 Nick Viall

How long was that? It was over a year ago. Yeah. So it was in January.

255.633 - 265.077 Tom Sandoval

I know that. You've come a long way. Thanks, man. Yeah, I feel like I have. I actually wasn't even planning on drinking this week, but you're like, let's open the bottle. I was like, all right. Okay. All right.

265.237 - 266.398 Nick Viall

How did you guys meet in the first place?

266.658 - 279.609 Victoria Fuller

We met through a friend. It's kind of funny. My friend, she was like, oh, do you want to go to this show? And I'm being honest, I looked at the phone on YouTube.

Chapter 6: How do Tom and Victoria handle public criticism of their relationship?

498.649 - 502.853 Tom Sandoval

Yeah, you were there, right? Yes. Okay. So do you remember two girls coming up?

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503.154 - 504.835 Victoria Fuller

Oh, you were there? Oh, wait.

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504.875 - 527.16 Tom Sandoval

With JoJo Siwa? After dinner, we left. Pretty quickly? Yeah, immediately. So her and her friend came towards the end, and they knocked on the door because she... She recognized me from- Well, like I said, my friend liked it. Yeah, from the most extra show that she went to. She was like, oh, that's that guy that you, whatever. And so- That your friend was into.

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527.22 - 530.504 Victoria Fuller

So my friend had a crush on him. They didn't really know each other or anything.

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530.584 - 531.626 Nick Viall

Did your friend know about-

532.346 - 543.831 Victoria Fuller

No, she didn't know no over her friend did oh and was telling her about it. Does that make sense? So somebody's mom told our another mutual friend. Does this make sense?

544.171 - 544.371 Victoria Fuller

Yeah.

544.411 - 557.597 Victoria Fuller

Yeah, so we're a group of three friends She did not know about it The other ones mom told the other girl which told her you know, and I'm I'm dating this other guy at the time I'm not paying attention like I fully was dating another guy and

557.937 - 559.478 Nick Viall

Like boyfriend and girlfriend or just dating?

Chapter 7: What are Tom and Victoria's future plans together?

653.656 - 663.185 Tom Sandoval

And so I just was like, Oh yeah. Do you want a candle? And like, I don't know. I kind of panicked. I wasn't like my, my mindset was not there. And, uh,

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663.365 - 678.773 Victoria Fuller

And then on the car on the way back home, because I was taking her home, I was like, I don't think that he really likes you. And she's like, no shit. He gave me a candle. And then she started dating another guy. Okay. And months went by. Then we hung out on Halloween.

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678.793 - 679.453 Nick Viall

Yeah.

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679.833 - 682.334 Victoria Fuller

And on Halloween, I broke it off with my guy.

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682.414 - 687.041 Nick Viall

Okay. Like you were hanging out with Tom, you just call him up and be like, hey.

687.061 - 687.261 Victoria Fuller

Yeah.

687.301 - 688.502 Nick Viall

While you were hanging out with Tom?

688.542 - 701.873 Victoria Fuller

So the first night, we actually really hung out. Before then, when me and the other girl and him would hang out, him and I would vibe more because we listened to the same music. And she listens to completely different music, and I bond with people on music.

701.994 - 702.134 Victoria Fuller

Mm-hmm.

Chapter 8: How do they communicate effectively in their relationship?

774.912 - 776.993 Tom Sandoval

And I'm like, I was very, uh, I mean,

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777.113 - 777.833 Victoria Fuller

It was very heavy.

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777.853 - 789.717 Tom Sandoval

I was waking up daily to, like, stuff. Like, it just was never-ending. And, yeah, it was rough, obviously.

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789.797 - 803.301 Nick Viall

How did you, I mean, despite whatever your critics or whatever, but, you know, whether people think you deserved it or not, the hate that you received, the harassment that you received, like, how did you deal with that? Because it's, I mean, it was heavy, man.

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803.601 - 820.798 Tom Sandoval

It was... At first, I was... uh drinking like crazy okay and then i i realized like this is a i mean even leading up to all of that i was drinking all the time like almost pretty much every day all day and just like constantly just

821.699 - 850.283 Tom Sandoval

numbing myself to my life and shit and anyways and then you know after that it didn't stop and then finally i was like there's so many things that i can't help you know like i can't help like that all these things but there's certain things i can control and so i stopped drinking i stopped smoking cigarettes i just started working out and just like focusing on all the things that i could actually do that made me feel better i started doing guided meditation i was seeing a therapist

850.663 - 865.568 Tom Sandoval

just kept busy and honestly like we had tour dates booked like you know from when this like before this all this broke you know and i had to go out and do that i look back as a very empowering moment and

866.028 - 883.28 Tom Sandoval

for myself because I had to walk out with people that had scumbag and cheaters and warm with the mustache and all this shit in the audience wondering like what the fuck they're gonna see when they like come you know come out there like why they're just here to witness whatever it is spectacle the spectacle of it all

883.92 - 907.955 Tom Sandoval

And I had to go out there, stone sober, look at these people in their fucking eyeballs and be a lead singer of a cover band. It was like bungee jumping every show. But I'm so glad that I did it. I had people telling me, cancel it, cancel it. If we would have canceled these shows, the band would have dissolved and it would have been done. And I would not have gotten anywhere.

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