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300. West Memphis 3 Part 2

Tue, 08 Apr 2025

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Chapter 1: What is the focus of the West Memphis 3 Part 2 episode?

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And we are The Prosecutors. Today on The Prosecutors, we continue the timeline in the West Memphis 3 case. Hello everybody and welcome to this episode of The Prosecutors. I'm Brett and I'm joined as always by my timely co-host.

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129.795 - 149.71 Alice

Hi, Brett. I don't know that I'm timely, but thanks for saying that. You know why? Because we are going to get through this case in a timely manner. So far, at this rate, that's a joke. That's a joke. We're doing pretty good. We're doing pretty good. For those of you who are like, oh, they said it's going to be an ex-parter. We have no idea. We have no self-control.

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149.97 - 154.714 Alice

So even if we wanted it to be a certain number of parts, like we could stick to it.

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155.12 - 177.434 Brett

Yeah. And I mean, this is going to be a long one just because of how we're doing it. We're basically doing a full podcast on this and then we're going to deep dive into various aspects of this. So when we finish with what is described as the outline in my files, probably most of you will be satisfied, but we won't be. So we're going to do deep dives into various aspects of it.

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So it's going to take some time.

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Some may call them rabbit trails. Some may call them rabbit holes.

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Yeah, but there will be rabbits involved.

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There will be rabbits involved.

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I do want to say, as we get started, one quick, completely unrelated thing. Today, inconceivable story of Temujin Kinsu came out. It's narrated by Jason Usry, who's done a lot of original reporting in that case. That is a case we covered very early on in our podcast. We have not been shy in saying that we think Timogen is innocent.

Chapter 2: How does Damien Echols' background influence the case?

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I mean, maybe people did. I don't know.

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374.635 - 393.645 Alice

How do I know? He is, I mean, that's like a real high goal and a dark goal to be reaching towards. But all of this to show, this is still months before the murders we're going to talk about here. Already we're seeing the profile of a very disturbed young man emerging.

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394.523 - 416.323 Brett

And if you read these psychological reports, you see this is in a lot of ways very typical because Damien has a rough life. He has an abusive family. His stepfather is abusive to him. He is an outsider. He is not like other kids. He is made fun of. He brings some of it on himself. He's violent. He does things like tries to set the school on fire, all that sort of stuff.

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417.023 - 436.449 Brett

And, you know, the old saying of like hurt people, hurt people like it is not surprising that he reacts this way. And the files talk about how this is sort of his defense mechanism in order to protect himself from all the bad things coming at him. He has become the aggressor. And that's how he sort of prevents this stuff from hurting him.

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437.415 - 456.538 Alice

And we'll get more into his records and whatnot. But I don't know. I'm curious, Brett, if this stuck out to you from the very beginning and just reading about who he is and reading his writings from then all the way until now. The thing with Damien, though, is he is very good at... being poetic, right? The way he speaks, the way he describes things.

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There's a reason why people have been drawn to what he writes, because he's very good with his words, so much so that when he says things like this, that people will not forget me, I'll be the next Ted Bundy, that sort of thing. He tends to speak in very, like,

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grand gestures and that is kind of a euphemism for he seems to hyperbolize and lie in the way he says just because as we're going to see he's going to say things that just can't possibly be true or they contradict each other and it's almost like whenever he speaks or whenever he describes himself even in the documentaries later on after the conviction he molds into whoever you kind of want him to be that's my impression of reading all these things but all of his self-assessments are inconsistent with each other

499.045 - 514.966 Brett

And it's interesting because other people, kids from the school, kids from the area would describe how charismatic he was, which I think goes along with what you're saying, that he really kind of had a mesmerizing presence. And the people who liked him and the people who hung out with him were very influenced by him.

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And, you know, one thing, as I've said, we're going to bust a lot of myths in this case, wherever we end up. One of the myths is just, you know, Damien was just he was like all of us. Like, you know, I used to wear black and listen to Metallica when I was in high school. I love Metallica. I listened to the black album so much on my Sony Discman that like I like burned it up like it would skip.

Chapter 3: What are the significant events leading up to the murders?

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So after this, Damien, he gets out of this facility, not necessarily saying that he is the subject of what occurs here, but this was testified to at trial. So three months before the murders, a man dressed entirely in black pulled into the driveway of Chris Byer's house in a green car. He got out with a camera, and he took a picture of Chris. At the time, Chris's parents were gone.

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They had gone to the store to buy some cigarettes and I think some milk, maybe. They had come back, and this occurred while they were gone. And Chris immediately runs out to them and is like, Mommy, Mommy, this strange man was taking my picture.

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This becomes significant later on and there's a reason that it's in the trial because there is talk of photographs of the victims and whether or not those were available to the people who would eventually be convicted of the crime.

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So now in March 1993, remember from last time, Damien's family, his sister, dad and mom had been living in Oregon and they put him on a bus and sent him back to Arkansas where he wanted to be. Now, in March, Damien's parents and sister moved back to Arkansas from Oregon. And Damien had already been in Arkansas for about a year. Now, his parents followed.

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But at this point, he and his sister, Michelle, have missed so much school that neither of them end up going to school once they're in Arkansas because they wouldn't have passed the grade anyway. So they were just going to like wait out the year and then start again, which I don't know if that's allowed. But there you have it. Yeah.

1257.687 - 1258.288 Brett

It's the 90s.

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It's the 90s, right? Truancy may not have been as strictly enforced or not, but you're seeing again kind of the instability because what do you have when you go to school? You have community. You have other eyes on you, whether it be teachers or coaches or guidance counselors or access to other friends, that sort of thing, right? So we are beginning to see the situation that he's in.

Chapter 4: What is the timeline on the day of the West Memphis 3 murders?

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Yeah. I mean, we have like, you know, Stevie's mom saying that Michael came to ask for Stevie to play and the two of them ran off together. So it'd be kind of strange for them to be separated at this point, too.

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2333.217 - 2454.502 Brett

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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2483.467 - 2484.068 Alice

Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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2550.37 - 2577.665 Alice

Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you. Thank you.

Chapter 5: How does eyewitness testimony affect the case timeline?

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