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This Vulnerable GOP District Just Got Blown Wide Open (Mike Sacks Interview)

Mon, 14 Apr 2025

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MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on recent devastating moments for vulnerable Congressman Mike Lawler (R-NY) and interviews Democrat Mike Sacks, who recently announced he is taking on Lawler in the battle for New York’s 17th congressional district. Visit https://meidasplus.com for more! Remember to subscribe to ALL the MeidasTouch Network Podcasts: MeidasTouch: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/meidastouch-podcast Legal AF: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/legal-af MissTrial: https://meidasnews.com/tag/miss-trial The PoliticsGirl Podcast: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-politicsgirl-podcast The Influence Continuum: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-influence-continuum-with-dr-steven-hassan Mea Culpa with Michael Cohen: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/mea-culpa-with-michael-cohen The Weekend Show: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/the-weekend-show Burn the Boats: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/burn-the-boats Majority 54: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/majority-54 Political Beatdown: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/political-beatdown On Democracy with FP Wellman: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/on-democracy-with-fpwellman Uncovered: https://www.meidastouch.com/tag/maga-uncovered Coalition of the Sane: https://meidasnews.com/tag/coalition-of-the-sane Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What did Mike Lawler say about Social Security cuts?

0.169 - 26.638 Ben Meiselas

A MAGA Republican Congress member from New York just revealed the entire game plan in a stunning admission on MSNBC. He said that Social Security cuts, maybe, maybe happens, probably needs to happen. Listen to MAGA Republican Congress member Mike Lawler in his own words, saying it's not realistic to rule out cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Play this clip.

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27.398 - 40.343 Ben Meiselas

Basically, defense spending, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, that's about 90 percent of it right there. You can't cut from the rest of the budget to balance things.

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40.743 - 60.309 Ben Meiselas

This this this has been the whole challenge, right? Because we're blocking off roughly 87, 90 percent of federal spending and saying we can't touch that. Can't touch it. So we're arguing over roughly 13 percent of federal spending, you know, in terms of trying to find savings. And it's just not realistic.

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60.969 - 83.961 Ben Meiselas

So the issue long term that we all have to grapple with, Republicans and Democrats, and we have to get serious about is how to tackle our national debt. Most of our debt is accrued by mandatory spending. There are savings to be had in the Defense Department. No question about it. There are savings to be had across every agency and department in the federal government.

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83.981 - 108.6 Ben Meiselas

You know, the last time I checked, Donald Trump is proposing a $1 trillion spending bill for the military because he likes the number trillion. And also the last time I checked, MAGA Republican Congressmember Mike Lawler, who you saw there, wants to give $4.5 trillion, yeah, that word trillion again, tax cuts for the billionaires. And there was that town hall on CNN.

109.141 - 126.526 Ben Meiselas

It was a very odd moment where this MAGA Republican Congress member Lawler continued to try to interrupt the Democratic Congresswoman Hayes from Connecticut as she was trying to make a point. And I guess he just didn't like the truth. So he kept on, it was just very odd and honestly kind of creepy. Here, play this clip.

126.866 - 149.179 Democratic Congress Member Garcia

If he has found all of this waste, fraud, and abuse, we don't want that either. But what we're talking about is burning down the house instead of taking... I'm still talking, please. What we're talking about is burning down the house instead of taking out the garbage. There is waste in the federal government. All of us would like to see that go so that we can help the people.

149.199 - 155.162 Democratic Congress Member Garcia

Mr. Lawler, can you please let me finish my... Can you let me finish my conversation? And I'm going to finish.

156.03 - 176.502 Ben Meiselas

It reminded me of that debate with Hillary Clinton and Trump, where Trump was like kind of creepily looking over her and then interrupting her. One more thing I want to share with you about Lawler, who, by the way, once kind of claimed he was like a centrist. But I think he's revealed his true colors. This is from the Democratic majority pack right here, House majority forward.

Chapter 2: Why is cutting Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid controversial?

485.804 - 503.887 Mike Johnson

Secretary of Defense James Mattis would say he'd go line by line through the defense budget and he'd find actual waste, fraud, and abuse. None of that is what Doge is doing. So people did not ask for this. And people are not waking up to that here in this district. People see Lawler and they see that's MAGA, not moderate.

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504.148 - 521.477 Mike Johnson

People are seeing what he says and they don't trust him or believe him anymore. And I think there's going to be a lot of people, even beyond the Democratic primary, people who are mad as hell up here. The Democrats in this district are mad as hell. But even beyond that, people who thought they were voting for something and got something very different from these people.

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522.383 - 539.114 Mike Johnson

billionaires who are stealing their voice and their power to enrich themselves at all of our expense and laughing all the way to the bank with it and think that we won't do anything about it, that is going to be the main dynamic driving this coming election.

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540.035 - 550.362 Ben Meiselas

And Lawler's a part of it. We heard something also. The Congresswoman said that they're burning down the House. Trump, Musk, burning down the House.

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551.681 - 575.98 Mike Johnson

What's happening is not only that Lawler's letting that happen, but it's more than, it's knocking it down. It's leaving rubble and wreckage in the people's house. And that's the one part of the federal government in 2026 that democracy lovers, not just Democrats with a small D, but also small, or big D, but small D Democrats,

577.709 - 591.638 Mike Johnson

People who believe in fighting autocracy in this country and cutting this vicious cycle where the rich just keep making themselves richer because they've hijacked our country. This is what's going to be left in rubbles because Lawler's letting it happen.

591.958 - 612.354 Mike Johnson

And we need someone with the vision to match this moment where people are rising up, taking to town halls, going on marches, doing the hands-off rallies. Someone who is willing to take that energy, bring it to the people's house, build back from the rubble of what Trump, Musk, and Lawler will have left us into a newer house.

612.695 - 623.203 Mike Johnson

Something that can rebuild our country into something better, bigger, stronger, more secure, freer, and more prosperous. A democracy that represents all of us, not just the billionaires who've hijacked it.

624.024 - 628.808 Ben Meiselas

People want to find out more about your campaign. Where do they go to find out more about you?

Chapter 3: What are the challenges in balancing the federal budget?

705.436 - 712.795 Unknown Speaker

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