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I was actually thinking about going to Abu Dhabi for this one.
Really?
Yeah, I was thinking of going on a vacation just for funds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then I found out it was 19 hours on a plane. I was like, oh, yo, that's too much. I'll do 10. Even with a bed, it doesn't matter.
Much rather do this.
It don't matter, man. You lose days. You don't lose a day. You lose days because you're days in a fog after it's over. You're all confused. Your body feels weird. Your workouts suck. Ugh.
That would be the card to do it, though. If there's one card that would get me to fight whatever it is, 19 hours. It's that main fight. It's the main and co.
Yeah, the co's big. The co's huge.
It's big.
It's so many questions in that fight, man. You know, can Whitaker, if Whitaker can stuff, you remember the third round, Kamaru Usman won the third round. That was five rounds? Yep. Yep. I would have my money on him. And the fucking, the thing is, he had 10 days notice. So he didn't have any trust in his gas tank, you know, and he talked about it. You know, they offered him five rounds. He said no.
And then when he's walking out of lockdown, he goes, I fucked up. Should have done five tomorrow. He said, I fucked up.
Should have done five. You know, 10, maybe that would have really psychologically fucked him. If he realized he had to do fucking 25 minutes against Hamzat, who's in top shape. But he was getting tired in that third round, and that's Hamzat's thing. He tries to get you out of there.
That shit that he did to Kevin, there's no way he could have continued that if he didn't submit him in the first round. When he just jumped on him, he went all in, just foot on the gas. Bam! It's like an electric car. It has 260 miles of range.
No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't.
Even at that pace, it's about 100. Bro, you take a Tesla around a racetrack, those bitches are burnt out after like two laps. Really? Yeah. Oh, really? After one pull.
I didn't know that.
I don't know how many laps you could do, but there's no fucking way you're going to do 260 miles.
Is there like an Indy for Teslas? No. Like a NASCAR thing? Shouldn't there be?
The fastest car you can buy. If you want to buy a car from a lot, the fastest car you can buy is a four-door luxury sedan. Plaid. Yeah. Why don't they race them? Well, they do things around tracks.
They have track records. Nitro Cross has electric. They wouldn't do it live. It's just silent. In like Florida or in the South, they would have to be like in Seattle, right? Tesla, NASCAR, and San Francisco.
The whole thing is so crazy because even though, yeah, it is the future, yeah, it's a superior technology. The reality is they're getting their minerals from fucking China and they're using cobalt mines in the Congo. Like the whole thing's crazy.
But the whole thing, you can do both.
It doesn't have to be one or the other. Right. But what I'm saying is like to connect that with like this is the most ethical. This is the most environmentally friendly. It's not. They've got to stop doing that.
It's just not educated. Yeah.
Not only that, do you know that the environmental pollution from an electric car is significantly more because of brake dust? Brake dust is a giant problem. Everybody wants to talk about exhaust fumes. If you live in New York City, you're breathing in brake dust all day long.
And they're so heavy, it burns the tires faster.
What's the difference between brake dust from a Tesla and a gas-powered car?
It's a heavier car.
Way heavier. Oh. So Tesla's better because Tesla has regenerative braking. So when I'm driving my Tesla, if I let off the gas, it slows down considerably where I don't even have to use the brake sometimes. If I'm driving around town, you could do one pedal driving because as soon as you let off the gas, it slows itself because it regenerates electricity during that process of slowing down.
So it uses the momentum of the car to extend the battery life. So you don't get as much, but it's still so heavy.
Do you think, like, in 20 years, like, Teslas are going to be, like, $1,500 in the recycler or something?
No, because you know what the idea is? They're already eating decoct. No, no, no, but the idea is electric cars are the way cell phones... Remember when you had to carry a big thing, like a big cell phone?
Yeah.
So the idea is, yes, it is not environmentally very effective and all that, but it's in its infancy. And the idea is you want to keep doing it so there's a breakthrough in material sciences with incentives... You have a Tesla.
But you're still mining in the cobalt ions. That's never going to go away.
But the technology of electric cars is the future in terms of as they get better at it.
Why is it the future? This is all cunt talk. What's the future? This is all bitch talk.
Well, this is the thing. No, he's totally right. Because there's a bunch of experimental battery technologies that they're currently working on that are going to be so much better than these lithium ion cobalt batteries.
100% every piece of plastic we use is made with oil. Yeah And with AI, the idea is you're going to have robots and those robots will be on a piece of land. So you'll buy the plot of land and those robots will then mine the materials needed to build a house. So they'll use the actual land that they're on to mine all the materials.
That sounds so far away, Don. It all began that far away. Not that far away. The robots I got now, come on.
No, Eddie, it's all artificial intelligence. When artificial intelligence becomes sentient, and they have quantum computers now. Brian Cox was here the other day, and he tried to explain quantum... The guy from CERN? Yes, trying to explain quantum computers. They're so insanely powerful.
John, are you guys from CERN?
Yes. They're so insanely powerful that they don't even understand what they're doing. They think that they're pulling information from different universes simultaneously. That's what I'm talking about. It's the multi-world theory of quantum computing.
That's not good, right?
They showed that they can create wormholes.
There's evidence in quantum computing of wormholes. You believe that? You believe that for real? Yes. Wait, wait. Come on, man. They're full of shit. The quantum computer is picking up information. They're full of shit. It's from like different dimensions.
They don't even understand exactly what it's doing. But this is the way he explained it to me. I hope I'm not butchering it. But some insane amount of time, like all the seconds that the world has ever existed plus. You would need that for a computer, a normal computer, to solve a problem that a quantum computer would solve in one second.
Do we have quantum computers? Yes.
We do have them now. They have quantum computers, but they don't exactly know how to program them now, I think, is the problem.
They're making computers and they don't know how to program them.
This is what it is. They're so complex that they want to develop the infrastructure. The computer's very small, which is really crazy.
Let me guess, they need money to finish this. Let me guess. Eddie, settle down.
The actual chip is very small. It's like a tiny little, it's smaller than this. The actual chip. The whole rest of the thing is insane cooling. Because in order to operate this, you have to keep it at an unbelievably cold temperature, like colder than deep space. Jesus. What? Yeah, you should see it. But pull up something on it, Jamie, just so that you can see the explanation of quantum computing.
It's a real thing, Eddie, as much as it seems great. Computers are a real fucking thing, okay? The reason why you find all this shit on YouTube that doesn't make any sense is because computers are a real fucking thing. People can make videos, they compress them, they upload them online. So this is computing. It's all a real thing.
Quantum computing is this, but it's through an insanely powerful source.
And I can't get service in my fucking backyard.
First of all, there's only a couple of these on Earth. They're very difficult to make. Insane tolerances.
And super expensive, right? Unbelievably expensive, I'm sure. Who pays for it?
The companies that are making them. Not the taxpayers? I highly doubt it. There's probably some subsiding incentives.
I don't know if it was the Cox guy or whatever, but there's a video. They're in front of me.
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That big cylinder in CERN, and they're talking about, we've discovered 10 dimensions, we're going to discover an 11th dimension, but we need more money. Yeah, they do need more money, Eddie.
What do you think, it's for free? You think you can make a quantum computer in your backyard with fucking lemonade money?
You don't feel like a little like...
100%.
And they might be getting it quicker. Yes.
What if this is already a computer? Like, what if we're already in a quantum computer? Well, that's what Elon thinks.
Well, only rich people say that. But I don't understand.
Only rich people say that.
Their computer program is awesome. They're getting their dick sucked flying around in rockets.
Yeah, the single mom of four at McDonald's is like, we're in a fucking simulation.
Exactly.
That's such a good point.
We might be.
Such a good... Are we billing or say we're in a simulation?
No. What if we're already computer creations that are creating... We are in a machine, though. I mean, it's so obvious. We are in a machine. We're in the matrix and we're already creating another... The sun, the moon, the stars. Like a better version of ourselves. We're in a machine. We're in a clock.
We're actually in a clock. The sun regulates the day. The clocks go to the stars and the sun and the moon. The moon's 28 days. Apparently, we're supposed to have 13 months, and we used to have 13 months. Who said that? No, we used to.
You don't believe that?
The calendar used to be 13 months. No, he's right. No, he's right.
First of all, what he's saying about the machine is real. That makes sense. Think about October. What does Oct mean? Oh, boy.
October. Why is it the 10th month?
Wow. Octopuses.
Decca. What does that mean? Ten?
December?
You're using Latin on me right now, bro.
I knew that, bro. Cherokee candle calendar. Exactly. Traditionally defined as lunar calendar marked by 13 moon cycles of 28 days. Well, does that work?
It does work. There's an extra day, and that day is like the Ides of March. March is supposed to be the first month.
Why didn't we do that? That's so much better than one month has 31, one month has 28.
Exactly. By the way.
Changing time. They do black history month on the one month when only 28 days like settle down Here comes the pirate as the fire bro. This is a great fight Petrosian this dude This fucking dude throws kicks like everybody else throws punches. Shara Bullitt's so weird. Like, even you watch him training, it's a nonstop kicking thing.
Did you see him training with that Nina girl?
Yes. It makes me think, though, watching him train, because everybody thinks that kicks wear you out. I think kicks wear you out if you're not used to throwing kicks. Dude, does he have an orange bush coming out of his shorts? Some of those dudes like those Russian wrestlers that have crazy hairy backs.
Yeah
You know those dudes.
That should be illegal.
Wild crotch hair.
Wild crotch hair. Remember how hairy Orlovsky was? He was a werewolf. He had hair on his shoulders. Oh, bro. Yeah, he was a werewolf. But he looked awesome.
Bro, props to that guy, man. I'm sad that he's now out of the UFC, you know, that they kind of forced him out. Did they finally get him? Props to that guy. Yeah, that guy stayed, like, world class for a long-ass time, even after he wasn't the best.
Because remember, he lost to Fedor, he's doing well, did that weird flying fucking thing, got knocked out. If he didn't do that. And then still, still reinvented himself. That guy's never gone bald. That guy is, dude, look at that.
Bro, he was fucking Fedor up. He was tuning him up on the feet. And then did that weird flying fucking thing. Ah, he fucked up. But everybody forgets how good Orlovsky was in his prime. Bro, he had a laser beam of a right hand. As he got older, his punches were more late, probably shoulder problems.
Me and him had the most boringest fight ever.
I beat him, but it was very boring. Isn't that crazy, too, that you fought him, like, how many years after he started? Shit. Think about that. He was a champ in what, 2005? Yeah, so 20 years ago he was a champ.
But the first time we fought, we were like in our 20s probably.
And then taking on young, you know, I was a young line in beating guys.
He took on Francis.
Yeah. He took on Francis when Francis was, yeah, it happened.
When was the first time I watched you walk?
Do you remember how you partied after the Crow Cop fight? Do you remember that night? Yep. What'd you do? I went and got chicken wings and went to my room and threw up. I was concussed.
Oh, shit, okay.
So you couldn't go partying? I was in so much pain because my nose got shattered.
Isn't that crazy that people don't even think about that, but a lot of the guys who win still get concussed, even the guys who win by knockout. They think, oh, he won by knockout. He must be fine right now. No, he probably almost got KO'd himself.
Yeah, it was tough.
Ugh.
That was in the end of Rocky III. It's real in this kickboxing. Ramone Deckers is my favorite kickboxer of all time because he was such a fucking psychopath.
Look at this.
Bro. They both just cranked one off at the exact same time.
He was a Dutch guy, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, monster.
Look at this. Boom. That is so crazy.
Who won?
I think the other guy did. I think Ryan Simpson got up first. How wild is that? He got up first. I think, see, he wasn't totally out. Like, look, when he goes down, he catches himself, but Ramon Deckers didn't. He's out out.
What weight did he fight at?
Well, he started off light. See, that was the thing. He was one of the only foreigners that went over to Holland and was fighting ties, and he was their size.
Do you remember? He was from Holland and he went over to Thailand. Yeah, bro.
He fucked those dudes up. With a violence they had never seen before. Like a psychotic violence.
The Holland mob hired me to move and live there to train Ramon Deckers to fight MMA. Yeah, that's right.
I forgot about that.
And then the mob boss got thrown in jail, and then they canceled the plans. I was ready to move to Holland.
I was going to move to Holland. He was telling me. He's like, bro, it's going to be awesome. I'm going to train those dudes. I'm going to give them some fucking killer jiu-jitsu.
It wouldn't work, too.
Hey, let's get the clock going, because Shara Bullitt is about to fight Shara. So 458, 457, 455, 54, 453, 452. All right, sync it up.
Sharbo is fighting with one eye. Yeah, one eye.
He's such an exciting fighter. He's one of my favorite fighters. His ceiling, I don't know because of his wrestling.
It's a huge issue. This is a big move up. How's his jiu-jitsu? Well, he's not a ground fighter. That's not his thing. He's really a karate guy. But the way he throws his kicks is nuts, man.
Karate guy from like Dagestan or something, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's so weird, right? It's not like Muay Thai style. I mean, he can do all that.
Oh, shit.
Petrosian's good, man. This is what I'm talking about. Really good. Really good. Really good Muay Thai. And fully complete. He's a complete guy.
What is he, Armenian?
And also super strong.
Sounds like Russian-Armenian. He better be Armenian. You know, Bullock's got an indestructible head, but, you know, anybody can get knocked out.
Well, when he gets hit with shots because of all that hair, it looks worse.
He's got caught twice now.
Yeah, it does look worse. It looks way worse because of all that hair. That's a very good point. Because you just see it more.
It looks like the burning bush.
But Petrosian's super solid. When I saw this fight was being made, I was like, ooh, that's a real test.
Because there's one-twos.
Yeah, and, like, good defensively, big fucking dude for the weight class. Mm-hmm. These guys are so big. It's so crazy how big 185 is now. Wild, dude. They're so big.
DDP, I was trying to tell Brian, I'm like, dude, DDP is a different fucking animal.
Anthony Smith, he was like 235 with no fat on him. He's a 205er. He's a 205er.
This is an 85. No, 85, though. No, they're huge, too. 205 has notoriously been big. 85 now, to me, is the biggest kind of leap as far as big guys. They're fucking huge.
Dricus is so fucking big.
Izzy ain't small either. Strickland ain't small. Look at Luke Rockhold. Paul Acosta.
Robert Whitaker's no punk. These guys are bigger. What kick is he the most famous for? Petrosian?
He's just solid.
No, no, not Petrosian. He throws everything.
Is it the wheel kicks?
He throws everything. Wheel kicks, axe kicks, roundhouse kicks. Someone's getting knocked out, Doug. Bro, he's coming after this dude, though.
Petrosian's landing, too, though. Yeah, but he's coming after Petrosian.
He's really hit the gas here. He's a rugged man. I love his look, man. Like a pirate. So crazy. You know he played a bad guy in a movie in Hollywood recently. Oh, what a great casting. They're going to cast Poet on some movie too, I heard. He's a bad guy in some movie. That makes sense. Fuck yeah. I'm hyped for these guys. Imagine if one of these guys becomes the next Rock. The next John Cena?
That'd be sick. You're telling me Conor McGregor couldn't become an action movie star? Dude, they've asked him to and he keeps turning it down. He still wants to fight. Still wants to fight. Does he? And he also wants to party. Yeah.
I love him. He can do no wrong in my book.
He looks like he's having a good time.
As he should. He doesn't know his shit.
Here he did it. Sometimes a good time can be bad. Oh, he got clipped.
He got clipped. That left hook was nasty.
Who got clipped? Petrosian?
Yeah, Petrosian did. He's been clipped a few times now. But look at the way he throws his kicks. It's so different. And he can throw so many in a row, too. But Petrosian is rock solid, man.
I wonder if that hair is actually a bit of a shock absorber. No.
No. Stupid comment, right? That's so dumb. Somebody hit you in the head with a fucking big head of hair. But I think the beard is.
I mean, no, just the hair. All that hair.
They used to think that in boxing. In boxing, you used to have to shave your beard.
Yeah, for Golden Gloves, they made me shave everything. I couldn't look more Mexican. I just had a mustache.
But even if it's like 1%, right, it can make a difference.
No. No.
At this level, it does not fucking matter. It doesn't matter. Especially a tight little beard. A little padding.
Nah.
Let's see how a crazy-ass wild man beard, like one of them dudes that lives in the woods for 10 years. Just like a thick old Rick Rubin beard.
Yeah. Maybe.
Like if you get hit with an uppercut, I would say a Rick Rubin beard would protect you quite a bit.
Or maybe you stop your punch thinking you're hitting him. You know how you aim and maybe it stops you. Now they punch through him, man. What the fuck are you talking about? These guys are professionals, man.
When was the last time you punched somebody? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Now you're pulling your punch.
No, they're professionals. Now you're aiming. There's his face, but it's an illusion. Ah, it didn't go all the way through.
He's lighting a mug. Dude, I've been pretty hard on Hamza, you know, because the hype kind of fell off. Dude, the longest COVID ever. And then he had an interview with Brett Okamoto.
And you're like, oh, side kick, dude. Side fucking kick. Yeah, bro. He does everything, man.
Then he has that interview with Brad Okamoto. Catches you off guard. And he talks about how he's been depressed and he's been constantly moving. And he has a kid. And you're like, oh, this is a normal dude. He's calmed down because he had a kid. And he's been going through a tough time. He's camping. They have the same camp.
His kid has had two surgeries. He's going to have one second surgery after the fight.
Yeah, and they're like, what's going on? He's like, oh, I was depressed because it's tough making my family move every fucking month.
Why do they have to move all the time?
I don't know. I don't know. Oh, shit. And then you say that that's why he wants to stay and fight. You know, people give him shit about not coming to America. He's like, my health when I fly, it fucks me up. Yeah. Which I don't know if that knows what's real.
Here's the story on that dude. Supposedly you can't kick him out of the gym. He's the most brutal over trainer. Like that's the story on him. And then he's just like such a psychopath that he'll train even if he's sick. Do you see him training with the Olympic wrestling team? Yes. Yeah. No. Pretty fucking impressive. Yeah, dude. Really impressive.
Hang with those guys.
Yeah.
Really? You don't say. Monster.
He's a beast, dude. Yeah, he's a beast. What he did to Rockhold was disturbing. It was disturbing. Like, Luke Rockhold, he's not in his prime, but Luke Rockhold was a fantastic grappler. Who are you guys talking about again? Hamzat. Oh. Hamzat rolled with Luke Rockhold and just ran through him. Okay. Ran through him. Armbarred him.
What else? He hooked him.
That's crazy. But just ran through him. Just dominated him.
He's a banshee. But the only thing, I would not touch this as far as betting. If I were going to bet on it, I'd put money on Whitaker. Just because there's so many variables with Hamzat. His best heavyweight win is against Murashark. He's never really beat a true middleweight. And then you're going from fighting welterweights. He beat a blown-up Usman. Struggled with that.
Struggled with Gilbert Burns. And you're fighting Robert Whitaker at three?
Well, I still want to see it.
Oh, no, no, no, Joe, I'm not saying that. No, I'm not saying that.
I'm saying I wouldn't bet on it. I'm saying there's too many unknowns with arms up for me to bet on it. I think his first fight was at 85, and then I think at 170 he's unstoppable. But I just don't think he can really make 170. Did you see him on the scales for this? He looked bad. He was the last one to weigh in.
It's tough.
It's hard. He's 85. Max looks very thin, too. Max looks real drawn out.
See, I don't like Max at 45, especially at his age. I like him at 55. But the thing with Max, you know, so he's been going on this fucking war path after losing Volkanovski. They asked him what changed. You know what he said? What? Sparring. Remember, he was the guy that goes, I don't spar. They go, what changed? He goes, I started sparring again. That's why I'm knocking bitches out.
You've got to spar. You've got to spar.
Unfortunately.
He was the one guy. I'm like, oh, man, maybe you don't have to. And then you're like, all right.
I wonder if Shara Bullitt would lose all his power if you shaved his beard.
I think there were some other guys who decided to go the not sparring route, too.
Mitrione did it for a long time. Yeah. Mitrione was the first of it.
A lot of those guys started talking about that.
Donald. Didn't Donald do it? I think Donald did it. I think Donald did it for a while as well.
You know what? In football, the equivalent to that, not sparring, is not really going hard in preseason. And the Browns didn't fucking play anybody in preseason. They didn't take any chances, and they got walloped the first six, seven. It's just different. Yeah, so now it's like, damn, we got to spar in preseason.
Nut shot. And that's when you feel it. Bro, everybody needs to get those diamond MMA cups.
What are they?
Those are compression shorts with those perfectly fitted cups you could take a literal nut shot to.
Really? Yeah, man.
They exist. Not only that, here's the thing. You can wear a tie cup. You can wear a steel tie cup in the UFC. If you're fighting in the UFC, you 100% should wear a steel tie cup. Yeah, because you can break their foot. Yeah, if someone kicks you in the dick, it breaks their foot. The leverage with an arm bar? Lever with an arm bar is insane.
And also, if you get on top of them, you could shove that thing into them.
It's a fucking weapon. I'm going to start wearing one just because for podcasts and everything.
You can get one. They hurt, man. They hurt with whatever you're pushing it up against. It's a piece of metal.
So what does it do? How is it held into place?
You tie it through your ass like a nail stripper.
Really? Yeah, it's super good. I'm getting turned on. I never wore one. I want to wear one for discipline.
But you have to make sure it's really in place, because if it slips and a nut gets pokey out, then you're getting the steel slip. I had that happen with a plastic cup once. Yeah, my nut got pokey out-y a little on the side, and I got kicked to the nuts, and the plastic cup slammed into my nut.
That happened to Gilbert Ivo and Vanderlei Silva in Pride 11. One kick, and the cup got caught on his nut. And it was over. They had to take him out on a stretcher.
I never wore a cup in football or fighting. I remember that fight. I remember so many pride fights.
Yeah, it was over. Usually you get hit in the nuts and you need five minutes max or whatever. This time, there was no coming back. His nut got caught on the side of the...
Dude, when you look at those old Pride fights, that might have been the golden years. That might have been the best of the best. The savages. There was so much good about it.
There was so much good about it. First of all, it was the first time we ever got to see MMA in giant places. Like, there was no UFCs that were in 90,000 people. And that was in 2000.
Yeah. In the pageantry. Yeah. Remember Henzo versus Sakuraba Pride 10?
Oh, yeah.
Dude, I commentated that shit, dog. Oh, that's right. It was like 150 degrees. I was in a suit and it looked like I jumped out of a pool.
And how many people were there?
It was like a fucking baseball stadium. I don't even know. I don't know about 80, but it was insane. It was insane. That was when soccer, dude, there were so many classic matches. Guy Mesger versus Vanderlei Silva. Gilbert Ivo when he knocked out Goodrich in one kick. That was one strike in the fight. They came out and Gilbert Ivo just said... right to the head and that was it.
Wow, left high kick. And Gary Goodridge was laid out, knocked out for like five minutes. And when he woke up, his sister was his personal trainer. She was a yoke chick. That's not good. And he woke up and he told me this, he goes, dude, when I woke up, I thought, and you know, he's from Toronto. And he goes, when I woke up, I thought I was at a rave in Toronto. That's what he told me.
Gary Gooders. Maybe he was. Maybe he was. Maybe he got hit so hard that he got knocked into a parallel dimension. And he didn't recognize his sister.
He thought his sister was some chick he was hanging out with. He didn't even know who his sister was.
Maybe that's real. It's like a, you remember when you, Brian Cox would go, yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Remember back when you had cable, when you had cable and there was the dirty channels? Yeah. And you could tune into them but they'd be all like fucked up and every now and then you'd see like a couple of seconds of some girl's boobs riding some guy. And then it would go away.
Maybe that's what like getting kicked in the head is like.
And then finally you just give up on it. You're like,
fuck after like a half an hour he was just waiting for the shots like fuck this is waste I'm wasting my life parallel dimensions yeah when Rothwell knocked me out I was like climbing a ladder I went to a different planet and just climbing ladders I was just like really Yeah, my hands were twitching like climbing a ladder.
It's the weirdest thing when you get hit really hard and your legs just stop working. It's the weirdest feeling. That's why nerve knockouts, like a good left hook to the jaw, when someone gets clipped and you see that nerve. It's the weirdest thing, man. You have no control over it.
There's one thing when you're hit and you're hurt and your body's crumpling and you're taking shots, but the hit to the chin is like, weep.
It's an off switch. Someone just goes by and turns the lights off. But you're conscious.
Yes, you're conscious.
You're conscious you're conscious like you can't you're not you didn't even get hurt real bad Like I got hit way harder before than when I've been dropped But you get hit like on the top of the head or you get hit somewhere else But I got hit on the point of the chin once and oh Fuck dude he threw a spinning fucking a back fist and then reversed it and threw another spinning and the second
The opposite way. We missed the whole thing. Tony Ferguson did that once, but he did it the same way. This guy changed directions. Unless I'm retarded. Maybe I'm wrong. That's how I remember it. God damn, I talk too much. Yo, that was fucking insane.
By the way, his gas tank is ridiculous.
Well, he has to have one if he kicks as much as he does. Damn, we weren't paying attention.
He's not even that happy. He's like, dude, that was fucking tough. There we go. He's like, shit, I got... Okay, so we go, boom! And does he change directions? Yes! That's what I'm talking about! Yo, no one's ever done that before. No one's ever done that before.
Look at the accuracy, too. This was good, too. Accurate. Boom.
Spinning back hair. Cool. Wow. Dude, that's kung fu theater right there.
That is. That's wild. That's wild. And the dude just put his head down. That's going to be a highlight forever right there. That's amazing.
that's crazy wow and you know what tony ferguson did it to rafael dos anjos but he threw it and then he kept spinning and then he threw another one you know what i mean same direction i was just thinking of rafael dos anjos remember when he broke his foot when he's supposed to fight connor yep that's supposed to go down he was getting his prime he's kind of favored to win yeah he's that was the fight he was a scary guy he fought tonight his how did he do how do you do jamie he fought uh jeff neal
He ragged off Nate Diaz, remember?
He was a beast when he was the champion.
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Yeah.
yeah he's older and i believe he only has one acl and that's also i think damn near his 40th ufc okay how do you remember all this information like do you at night you spend an hour going through and watching fights again i just love it pop quizzes your memory can't be each other your memory can't be that good i'm done all the time it can't be that good so you got to watch it he's got a good memory he's actually dude i just love it remember two minutes and 30 seconds of round four he hit him with the jab and like how do you know this
It's probably the same way you know conspiracies and shit. You're just into it. I watch YouTube all night, Don.
Here's a TKO. His knee goes out, I think.
Oh, like I just said, that I think he's got no ACL.
He's thick.
I think he's got a bad ACL.
Was this at 70?
It's like right here.
Could have been 55, right?
Guys tend to give problems. Oh, come on, Javier. Oh, his leg's fucked up.
Dude, and RDA is the nicest guy. When I was fighting over in Brazil, no Brazilian would let me work out in the gym. Nobody would help me. He would take me, drop his daughter off at school, and then take me around, get me food, take me to his gym. Really? The nicest fucking guy in the world.
That's crazy that I said that I think he has no ACL, and then that happened. Fuck.
That poor guy.
There's a couple guys who fight in the UFC with no ACL.
Really?
Yeah.
It's the craziest thing to do.
Justin Gaethje has won no ACL.
Who was the first guy?
Do you remember the first guy? Rico.
Rico Rodriguez.
He was like, what? What are you doing? He goes, I have no ACL.
Like, what? Heavyweight champion of the world.
UFC heavyweight champion. But the quad thing you can't fix. You can fix the ACL thing.
Am I wrong? You just need to go through surgery. You guys have an NCAA champ, too? No. No. He wrestled, but he wasn't.
He was an early John Jock Machado. Yeah, he's a jujitsu guy.
Big boy.
His jujitsu was nasty. Savage. Nasty.
He was very good. Because this is in the 90s, and when wrestlers came into jiu-jitsu, everybody was a white belt and a blue belt in the 90s. There was one purple belt per school, and there was one American black belt, Craig Kukok, in New York. Remember Enzo Scott? I trained with him. He was my first teacher. Purple belt, American purple belt per school.
Everybody was a white, and everybody was a blue. Steve Maxwell was one of the first American black belts.
But the... Yeah, Greg was partners with Henso back in the day.
But guys that came in with a wrestling background, like Rico Rodriguez, he came in and he wrestled his whole life. And he went like... Him and this guy named Seth Goddard, they're big dudes who wrestled. As blue belts, they went to the world championships and just fucked everybody up.
That's what I'm saying. They fucked everybody up. But I think Rico was an NCAA champ. Rico Rodriguez.
I don't know.
Who was that kid that would always come to jujitsu at 10th planet when it was legends at legends? When he was like Eric, crazy wrestler, super powerful.
Oh, my God. Remember that? Yes. I forget his name.
He had so much potential. This guy was we used to do neon stomach drills. Rico Rodriguez. What does it say?
nothing what about his wrestling okay uh he didn't adc say he was not this dude uh i'm thinking about it's eric right eddie was it eric something yeah this dude eric we stood knee on belly drills this is what i realized like with the difference you know like a really strong wrestlers i couldn't get up if he was on top of me i wasn't not getting up i tried so hard to get up i could not get up
I was in real good shape. I was a brown belt.
I could not get up. Every jiu-jitsu school owner wanted, they're all looking for wrestlers, because they already had 15, 20 years of grappling.
And when we switched positions, so when I got on top of him, he just went, wee! And I just went flying. I had pretty good top pressure. You're talking with a headed arm, and you got a knee on belly. I had pretty good top pressure. Wee! I was just like, this is crazy. You know another person who made me feel like that? Caro Parisian. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God.
First time I rolled with Carl, I was like, this is ridiculous. You're a chimpanzee, bro.
You're not even a fucking human.
All those years of judo.
Jake Shields, too, right?
Oh, yeah. Jake Shields. Same thing. Same thing. Yeah. But Carl was freaky. It was because it's like, why are you so fucking strong? Like, because it's judo is the craziest thing. You're literally throwing bodies all the time.
Yeah.
You're hoisting people up in the air and slamming them. And you're fucking crazy. exploding on your feet, tripping each other. They're explosive. Oh, my God.
I was rolling with you guys and Tarek and Jake Shields. We were all together. I mean, I'm in the mix. Congratulations. Yeah, the idiot. And Jake didn't know me, and he was like, this guy has a podcast. I don't want him to, like, what if he gets positioned on me? He, like, you know how you ever see one of those steamrollers when they splat in the pavement? It was inappropriate. It was...
Oh, yeah, Jake goes hard.
I was like, I can't do anything. I was making noises. I was thinking five sounds.
Well, you should be fucked up, and you deserve it.
But also, you should deserve it. Brian, you really deserve it. You deserve everything that comes your way.
You train once a decade, and you get in there and try to roll with Jake Shields. I would do the same goddamn thing to you.
You fucker.
You don't deserve to roll. I'd smush you. I'd be happy to do it. I'd get angry. But then Jake rolled with Brendan.
Well, that's a different thing.
Brendan's a big boy. You ever think about having in the studio a room for a band to play or to do jiu-jitsu?
I have thought about. No, not a jiu-jitsu. We have the full mats out there.
You've seen the back gym. It would be cool. Show me a move, and then you have mats, and you have cameras on the mat.
A bunch of guys come in and train here all the time.
But for the podcast is what I'm talking about.
Well, I thought about doing something like that, but then I think, like, some things are just for yourself. Like, when The Rock came here and worked out, I said, hey, man, fuck all this social media shit. Let's just hang out. Because it was me and the comedians. So it was, you know, Bryan Simpson was there, Shane Gillis, Tony Hinchcliffe.
Those guys working out with The Rock is like Bryan Mullen with Jake Shields. Yeah, Derek... Yeah, Derek Poston was there, Ahsan Ahmad was there. We had a good fucking time. It was just hanging out. Sometimes you just hang out. But it'd be cool to have like- Don't have to make it a business. Like a band play.
That would be dope.
How cool would that be? That would be dope. But do I have time for that? I don't really have time for that.
You don't have time to have a band on your podcast and then they get up?
sometimes but I like it when people just play like when Gary Clark jr. comes here and just plays like Everlast have a DJ with him once yeah Everlast came with a DJ four or five guys like
When I first got the Spotify
I was willing to do it for two reasons. One, because it was a ton of money. And two, because I wanted to be like 10% less famous. Yeah. I was like, wouldn't it be nice? Because people are like, oh, you're going to go into obscurity. I'm like, great. You'll be like Howard Stern.
Perfect.
Perfect. Give me the money. I got other interests, man.
Were you at all nervous for Trump?
I was definitely hyped up. I was excited because there's a lot of questions I need to answer. Did you feel pressure? No. Not pressure. Pressure meaning like make sure you cover what you want to cover. No, no, no, no. Just like I knew what was important. Did you prepare for it? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Did you ask him why he was so pro-vaccine?
No, I didn't. But I also wanted to be rigid. Because there was a moment when he brought up the polio vaccine. I was like, I don't want to correct him. I don't want to show like when the, have you ever seen the chart of when polio actually dropped off when the vaccine was introduced?
I referenced it on the top. It's all bullshit.
That's a rough one. When you look at the actual, like there's a bunch of them. Measles is another one.
And you look at what actually happened.
And I don't want to get involved in a podcast where there's a lot of shit I want to get to. I want to know what the fuck is in the JFK files. That's what we talked about.
I didn't see that part.
He said there's a lot of people that are still alive. And I said, okay, so that's why you wouldn't release it because some of the people that are going to be implicated are still alive. So what that's saying to me is that the government was involved.
Everybody knows that.
But I said that. And he kind of like danced a little. The politicians came out. No, just like he's real good. You ask him a question and he starts to answer it. But then he takes you on a totally different route. It's the weave. But you've got to bring him back in, but you've got to be respectful.
So it's like I knew that that's the way he does it, but I'm like, I understand what you're doing, sir, but let's get it back to what I was asking you. You did that a couple times. I was like, I want to know what that first fucking day is like, and I don't think I really got that answer out of him. I don't think he remembers. I think he does.
What I'm talking about is this feeling of now you have to appoint 10,000 people and now you have to figure out how this machine works when you've never governed at all. And they don't show you any of that when you're running for president. It's not like a training program. Like, hey, Brendan, you might be president, so we're going to show you. This is how deals get made.
I like what he said about John Bolton. He said, yeah, he's a whack job, but you know what was cool about him? When I went to fucking Iran and I had John Bolton, they all knew he was a fuck.
He was ready to drop.
He's called him a whack job, but he had his purpose.
That kind of mindset. You know, the problem with the Trump stuff is just that the people look at the inflammatory things he says, the crazy shit, and they define him by that. But you also have to remember this is a very bizarre combination of an entertainer and a businessman. So it's an entertainer that, like... He's like a comedian, man. He says funny shit. He does it all the time.
Very funny.
He's always funny. He makes fun of Biden.
Constantly roasting. He's funny, man. He's New York. He's very New York. This is the fact that the nicknames he gives to people, they have to be funny. Tampon Tim. Yeah. If it wasn't funny, he wouldn't use it. Timp on Tim.
My point is people don't know what to do with that. And they want to pretend that all these other people are somehow or another morally better because you don't get to see the real them. Like, I don't buy that. I don't think you should either. I don't think that's how people really are.
I think when you see over and over and over and over again the media manipulating things and lying about things to make him seem way worse than he is. Call him Hitler? You should be suspicious. Yes.
You should be real suspicious. There's a reason why they're doing that.
Exactly. They don't want to lose that job. They're in desperado mode now.
Did you have a different perspective after? You don't know him well, right?
I don't know him at all. I literally never had a conversation with him other than, nice to meet you, sir. And he complimented me. I said, you're really good at this UFC stuff.
But after three hours, did you have a different impression of him or no?
Yeah, well, I mean, he's a businessman, bottom line. He likes making deals. That's what it is. Like, that's his whole thing. And he's got this ability to just keep going. This is what's crazy. Like, the podcast is three hours long. The guy didn't pee before the podcast. He didn't pee after the podcast.
He just left.
And he drinks more Diet Cokes than me. But he didn't drink anything during the podcast. He just sat here and we talked and they were freaking out out there because he was two hours late for something he was doing in Michigan. He didn't give a fuck. He's like, I know this is going to be bigger than that. Let's just keep going. We did three hours.
But at the end of it, he's, you know, I don't know him other than the three hours that I talked to him when he was trying to be at his best.
And Kamala Harris has not said yes yet.
She hasn't said no either. People keep saying she said no. I said I would have a conversation with her like a human being. That's all I want to do. That's literally all I want to do. I want to know what is it like to be... I don't even give a fuck about all the stuff she's talked about, about policies and all these different things. We know her positions. Who are you? Just be real. Who are you?
The crazy thing with Kamala is... She would be well-served to step into the lion's den and take it on. No, she's not, though, because she can't do it.
I would be willing to talk about anything other than politics. I don't give a fuck.
I don't give a fuck.
You want to know who she is. If there were some certain things they didn't want to talk about, fine. I don't care.
let's talk about i want to know who you are yes i can find out who you are if we can talk about sports it's crazy how they they she does interview after interview and they're just like disasters and you would think that because she would study interviews and just like you know what i mean it's a fucked up way to talk that no one's used to doing here's the way it is here's a question give me an answer and you're like well i think that it's not a
fucking conversation. It's not a conversation. So it's a weird, so you're uncomfortable with your words and you're trying to get it out right and you realize millions of people fucking hate you and don't think you should be in that position in the first place.
When she begins to answer a question with, I'm glad you asked that. Thank you for that. I'm like, oh my God. You know it's coming. You know it's coming. When she thanks you for asking a question about the 20 million illegals coming through the border unvetted. I'm glad you asked that. No, no, no.
She steers it back to the same talking points.
She steers it back to I'm a middle class. I come from a middle class family. I like small businesses. It's always back to the same five things.
And groceries? They go, what about inflation? And then she goes, you know, it's everything. You're right. I'm glad you asked that question. Groceries? I know. Gas? Everything. Families are struggling. But no plan. I need to hear what you want to do about it. You would think her handlers would go, this is the plan.
When they ask you about inflation, say we're going to do this and we're going to do that.
They don't tell her shit. The way they're doing it is very unnatural. And if you take a person that clams up when they have to talk publicly and you put them in unnatural environments, you incite all kinds of anxiety inside of them. It's a terrible way to communicate.
I don't think this would go better for her. I just don't think it's her thing.
Three hours?
If she gave you three hours... Brendan, I'm trying to sell it, and you're fucking it up for me. Maybe Kamala could sing or something. No, I think if Kamala... You know what I mean? If she could sing, sign her a Bad Boy record contract, you know what I mean?
I think that company is going out of business. You might want to do some research.
You're buying the stock of Bad Boy right now? Whoa!
Bro, dudes are doing Kamala ads and moving to Europe.
Yeah, people always are tripping on the baby oil, right? With the Diddy thing, they're tripping on the baby. Like, a thousand bottles of baby oil? I'm like, yeah, there's probably about a thousand people at his parties, right? 768 dildos.
That's so weird. Bro! Bro! Yo, imagine a Diddy party with no lube. Come on, man.
Come on, man. Painful, Doug.
You gotta... I bet he doesn't even... I bet Diddy's not even gay. I bet it's just he really enjoys fucking guys just so he said he fucked them.
Yeah. It's a power move.
I bet it's a crazy... Does that make him gay, though? Crazy... Yes, it does. Crazy, drugged-up power move. You know?
It's not full... I wouldn't... Also...
Filming everybody and having dirt on everybody like it's a crazy style organized crime But it makes you think like is this guy doing it on his own? No like who's above this motherfucker? Is that but is that the case is he doing it on his own?
Of course, but maybe he's not Also, it's funny. The celebrities come out to support Kamala. You're like, what the fuck are you doing?
All of them moving to Europe. And they're like dancing. We love Kamala. Usher. Beyonce came out last night.
She was all like, yo. When Americans see somebody who's a billionaire, it's like, Beyonce, most people don't have anything in common with her. So when that happens, it doesn't usually go well for politicians.
100%.
They probably did. And they're worried.
I just think it's really weird to ask someone who lies for a living what they think the president should be. That's a lot of actors. They're just professional liars. The whole thing they're doing is they're pretending they're someone else. You have to be if you want to work. And you want them to be super sincere when they tell you who to vote for.
I believe it's time that a woman becomes president.
The fact that they keep pushing that Trump is Hitler and he promised to be a dictator is a great fight.
Dan Ige and Murphy. Murphy's a motherfucker.
And undefeated.
Dan Ige is pointing it to him. Murphy just lit up Barbosa, undefeated, kid out of England. Savage.
Bro, I was super impressed with Ige taking that fight on zero days' notice against Diego Lopez. Because Diego Lopez is a straight-up fucking killer. And they had a great fight.
Dio's there tonight. He's the alternative. Diego Lopez, combat jiu-jitsu world's veteran.
Bro, he's good. He's fucking good. He's fucking good. Diego Lopez is dangerous, and he's so wild. If he could just get a little bit more calculated and calm, he could simply hit the gas so hard. But he's such a killer, man.
Topirios said he wins tonight. He wants to fight Makhachev. Ooh.
Makachev wants to fight 170 if Bilal wasn't there.
If Bilal loses to Shavkat, which is going to happen in December, Shavkat wins that, then Makachev's going to go up to fucking 170. And challenge Shavkat.
Unless there's a rematch between Bilal and Shavkat. I mean, what if it's a crazy fight? Highly well, they could be crazy people sleep on below.
I don't know I know he's a fucking motherfucker. No, I'm not saying that I'm saying my chef shop caught such a super fight They're not gonna push that towards the queue.
Yeah, but I mean you gotta get past below and what?
Go to what's his best year striker? Great striker. He got up pretty good too, but he gave his back. Oh Whoops Danny is a mother could be over here.
He gave so much time plenty of time left to he gave solid everywhere, too He's solid standing up. He saw it on the ground. What is he Mexican or something he gay? What is it?
Why isn't he a Hawaiian?
Okay, it's a beast man. He could easily be mixed and he's super technical to like everything He does like very smart very polished and and he's tough tough shit. Yeah, tough as shit. Oh
Murphy's up.
When he knocked out Andre Feely, ooh. How did Diego beat him? Ooh, real close. Real close fight. Decision. Yeah, real close.
And he took it on literally 25-minute notice.
Literally. He was getting massaged after working out. And they called him. Do you want to fight tonight? He went and grabbed his mouthpiece. Yeah, grab your mouthpiece.
He was at Chipotle. Yeah.
He had a weigh-in at 163. That was the agreed-upon weight because obviously he can't cut weight the day of the fight. And so Diego took three different fights at three different weight classes. He took 45 with Brian Ortega. Ortega said he couldn't make 45. Diego made 45. He said, it's going to be at 55. He said, okay, I'll take 55. And then all of a sudden Ige says, 63. He's like, okay, 63.
He's like, let's just do it.
That's so nuts.
Gangster. Dude, what if Max Holloway wins tonight?
He can win. 100% he can win. Max Holloway, you cannot doubt him after that fucking Justin Gaethje fight. He's so clever and he's so wily. And with all the sparring now that we were talking about before, which I think is a... I mean, he said he sparred for the Gaethje fight much more. He goes, I had to be a crash test dummy.
I don't think he's ever been put down. No, he's never been knocked out. Yes, he has.
Justin Gaethje dropped him. He's never been knocked out. No, he's never been knocked out, but he's been dropped. Justin was the first guy to drop him. He hit him with the right hand.
Max claims he did it, though. That's incredible.
Max claims he didn't get dropped? No, no, he talked on the podcast. He said he got dropped? Yeah, he goes, oh, he dropped me. First time. Yeah, we were talking on the podcast after the fight. About him getting dropped? Yeah. He's never been knocked out, B. No, never been knocked out.
Oh! He hit him flush there, sat him down.
Oh, that's not good. You guys got nasty ground to pound, too.
Oh, this might be it.
39 seconds to go. Oh, dude, you got to cover up. Keep moving. You're undefeated.
You're undefeated. You're undefeated. Oh, but he's still fighting.
30 seconds is a long time, isn't it?
It's eternity.
But if Dan Ige doesn't put him away here. Oh, here we go. Now we're moving. Now things are changing.
I think, too, in that main event with Topiria, people forget his natural background is grappling, wrestling.
Oh, big elbows.
What's up?
Oh, takedown.
Look at this. Still got the Kimura, though. Murphy gets the takedown. He got the Kimura. Oh, he let it go. Oh, no, he didn't. Oh. Damn, no, he didn't. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. He's got it. He still has it. Secure the head. Beautiful. Oh, one second. It's over.
Wow. How about Murphy getting out of that, though? Not just getting out of it, but putting him on his ass. That was awesome. That was awesome. Jesus.
45.
Did you just say rugged?
Yeah. I like saying rugged.
It's 45, right, Jamie?
Yeah. Yeah. Big dudes for 45, man.
45 is big, too. Yeah. Big boys. Everybody gets big.
The game is changing. Look at Marab. The fact that dude makes 135, that's bananas. He probably doesn't need. I know, dude, but he's so thick. He's a tree. And when you're around that guy, he's a log. How about Sterling? Yeah. Oh, Aljamain was a little too big. I like him at 45. Love him at 45. Yeah. I mean, that Calvin Cater fight was like, holy shit, dude.
Yeah.
Calvin couldn't do anything to him. Strong. He's got the best back control maybe in the game. Yeah.
Who's that?
That's fair.
Aljamain Sterling?
What he did to Corey Sanhagen? His back control's insane. His back control's pretty nasty.
That's why they call him the backpack.
It's a fucking problem. Dan Ige with the stiff left. Boom. Oh, my goodness. Mouthpiece out and everything. Yep.
I hope Kamala says yes. Three hours. I hope she says yes, too. Because you settled into who you really are in three hours. You can't hide for three hours.
I don't know if she'd do three hours. They'd probably want to do like an hour. You're going to get 22 minutes. I'll get an hour.
I don't know, man.
22 minutes. 22 minutes with bullet points. You know, it's like no one knows who these fucking people are. Right. Get into her favorite sexual position. But we do know who Trump is. We do know who Trump is. Didn't that caller daddy girl, didn't they start talking about bedroom stuff?
Yeah. I like cowgirl. Ah!
Oh, my goodness.
Oh, my goodness.
You son of a bitch.
But really, reverse cowgirl on New Year's Eve and 4th of July, that's my favorite.
Well, she does... She gives good cooking tips. Ever see a good cooking tips? Does she? What does she say? Use beef tallow? Beef tallow.
She'll probably be like, no, no, seed oils are the best.
They're getting a bad rap. You gotta stick with seed oil. Beef tallow's too right wing.
I like sunflower oil. Crisco is the best. Isn't it crazy?
To stick with the old school.
All that stuff is industrial lubricant. They tricked us into taking over butter. It's so fucked up. It's so bad. It's so fucked up, dude. My favorite is canola oil. Like, oh, we're eating corn. It's corn. No, it's really from a plant called the rapeseed. Yeah. And you ever see what it looks like when they're processing it? Oh, we've been duped, man. Seed oil's being processed.
It's like you look at it and you go, how can you make anybody eat that? Jamie, show me a video of seed oils being processed. Yeah, I know these things.
So beef tallow is number one, or is there other kind? Chicken tallow?
Is there chicken tallow? Ghee is really good.
What's the difference between beef tallow and ghee?
But there's like People have rendered fat like bear is a really good fat that people render to cook and believe it or not bear fat Pig fat lard is pig fat. Yeah cooking in the animal fat is the best way also has the highest smoke So tallow means fat Yes. So beef tallow fat.
Yes, that's what it is.
Is there chicken tallow? It's rendered. No.
So you know what that means? It's got to be red. It's got to be red, right?
So rendered is they take it and they cook it. So they take these giant vats of fat and they cook it and run it through a filter and then they fill jars with it and that's what tallow is. So it's rendered beef fat.
Have you ever heard of regenerative farms?
Yeah, sure. I've had a bunch of regenerative farmers on. Yo, I went to a regenerative farm like a month ago. So this is how they make the seed oils. So this is like, they're just smashing these fucking disgusting seeds into pellets. And then it has to go through this process. And that's what people cook. It's fucking gross, man. And then they turn into a cooking oil.
Meanwhile, you're not supposed to ever be cooking in that shit. Is flaxseed oil bad for you? I don't know.
You can't cook with it, right?
I don't think people are cooking with that that often. Avocado oil is very good to cook with. That also has a high smoke point.
Have you ever seen that documentary, The Biggest Little Farm? No. Yo, you got to watch The Biggest Little Fucking Farm, dude. It's a farm. It's 100% regenerative. It's way above organic. No pesticides, no nothing. Dude, they got this balance, this ecological balance. I went to it like a month ago. Where's it at? In Moore Park.
You can buy regenerative from eggs.
Watch the biggest little farm. Trust me. This fight is really good, boys. Really good. This fight's really good. Murphy's really good, man.
Yeah.
Did he survive that? It's good. It's good for him. He looks good on the feet, too.
Looks fresh. Oh.
He just hit him with a one-two. That's the thing. Ige really burned off a lot of gas trying to finish him once he hurt him.
Joe, did you watch Francis' fight? Yes. It was brutal. It was fucking good. When he took him down, it went brilliant.
Yeah, apparently that was their game plan all along. Brilliant. Yeah. He has takedowns? Well, he won against Gon. I mean, he out-wrestled Cyril Gon when he had one knee.
Oh, shit. Did you see that takedown? Fuck. He took Homie down. And he's in the mouth, dog. He's in the mouth. That guy's a black belt on the bottom.
I'm thinking, like, Ige might have hit the gas too hard in the first.
Yo, he's on his back now. What the fuck? What rank is he? I don't know. Murphy. He looks good. Dude, he looks... Oh, everything changed now. But he got a triangle. Look at that. Can he finish it? All he got to do is pull the head down. He pulls the head down, and he's got a decent triangle. It's over. He's got to just pull his head down. How much time is left, though? 14 seconds. Oh, nothing.
Okay, nothing. All he's got to do is pull his head down.
He's got some moments to adjust. He almost did right there.
So much grease.
But he could still in the middle. Oh, he moved the arm over. Oh, dude, another minute.
Ran out of time. Shit would have been different. Yeah, he was just getting tired. How about MMA where the next round starts in the same position? That's what I've been saying. How hard is that? I've been saying that. How hard is that? Not a bad idea. If the round ends and you're in the mount, you break for a minute in the mount. People reset fights all the time.
Why would you give the striker the advantage of standing up? Why?
You never earned it.
You were on your back at the end of the round. Because everybody grew up watching Bruce Lee fights. That's so stupid. It's one fight. It's not five fights. It's one fight. So each round should start where the last one left off.
The problem is, because if you have a jiu-jitsu guy, you can get finishes, especially if he's in the mount. That makes sense. But then with...
Predominantly grappling you now dominating those guys just start and guard and you get fucking 25 minutes of this dude What about what about boring ass striking that happens to there's boring guard work, but there's one strike for sure Why I think I mean it's it's either they don't want either But you're sure as fuck not gonna get a finish of you always start on the ground. What I
The finish rate's going to go way down. No, I don't think that's true. Guys would be smothered.
Ground and pound finishes would go way up.
Sure. Jamie, bring up how many submissions compared to how many TKOs or knockouts in the OC. It's not even close.
When you constantly have stand-ups and then each round starts standing up, of course...
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It makes the UFC grappler heavy, and they want striking. That's the last thing they want. You want whatever happens, happens. It shouldn't favor either side.
It's a business, though, Eddie.
Now that they have different clubs. You want to talk about business?
When the UFC blew up, did it blow up for the striking or did it blow up for the grappling? What? Hold on. Let me finish this. I got to finish this. How old are you? He's 30. How old were you in 1994? I would have been 11. Exactly. So what I'm saying is the UFC exploded in UFC 2. No, no. UFC exploded after Ultimate Fighter 1. Dude, you're 11. Listen, relax. In UFC 2, it was fucking huge.
Not even close to what it was. Right. No, no, no. You weren't even alive, Don. I was alive.
Are you sure you were alive?
You're saying when it burst onto the scene? Okay, you were 11. Okay, let me help you out. UFC 2 exploded. It changed the world. And then it went underground once. They pulled it from cable and it went underground. You got into it when it was underground. But it was huge. There was billboards in fucking Hollywood for the UFC. It was giant.
You know what?
It wasn't because of the striking. We always had striking. There was already kickboxing. There was Muay Thai. There was boxing. We already had striking. The UFC 2 blew up through the stratosphere.
We were 11.
because of the grappling. They were like, what the fuck is this?
Because of the submission.
Because of the submission. We already had boxing. We already had kickboxing. It wasn't doing shit. Boxing was big, but kickboxing wasn't doing shit. UFC 2 exploded because of the grappling. And then it went underground. It was too big. UFC 5, that was billboards on Sunset when Hoyce fought Ken Shamrock. That was massive. And then they pulled the plug on it. UFC got canceled. Hold on.
Relax.
The UFC got canceled.
Let me finish.
The UFC got the plug pulled on it. And it went underground. They thought it was dead for five years. And then the Fertittas came in. And then that was the resurgence. But it was already massive.
It was massive, dog. UFC 2 changed the world.
Yes, but it was still something that most people
And most of the casuals had no idea about it. They called it human cockfighting and they didn't watch it. That's how it got canceled. No, but what I'm saying is you had to rent it at the store the way you'd rent a porn back then. And it was considered barbaric through all these things. So the people that love fighting young men, we all watched it, but not other people. It was huge.
It was massive. Not business-wise. Yo, it got canceled. It was huge.
It was massive. It was worldwide. You're both correct.
That's what I'm saying. We're both right.
The UFC did not exist before 93. When 93 came along and the UFC... burst onto the scene, everybody heard about the UFC. That was the big initial explosion, and it was because of Hoyce Gracie. Correct.
It was massive.
It was worldwide massive. Billboards. No schools had more of an explosion of participants than Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu schools. Of course.
The 90s weren't safe. And then John McCain came in, and they fucking... Human cockfighting. Dude, the UFC got canceled. They got pulled from cable.
That's why it went underground.
So if you get into the UFC in the early 2000s and go, oh, the Fertittas blew it up. Yes, they did, but it was the resurgence. It was already blown up, got canceled.
It wasn't making money, though, Eddie. No, and it wasn't mainstream, Eddie. It still wasn't mainstream. Okay. It wasn't. It wasn't mainstream. Now it's mainstream.
It was mainstream, dog. It was huge.
But it was with us, Eddie. But if you went up to a regular guy in a store and said, do you know about the Ultimate Fighting Championship? There's a high likelihood they wouldn't know. Correct. If you go in there today, everybody knows.
Sure as fuck knows.
2005.
Yeah. That was UFC 1. And 1995, too.
When Hoyce fought Ken Shamrock, it was massive. It changed martial arts forever. It was massive.
I think it got a lot of pay-per-views, too. It was massive.
Hoyce versus Ken Shamrock super fight that went 30 minutes. That shit was 1995. Nowhere near to what they are.
No. Not even close. It wasn't. It wasn't. But it was for us. For us, it was a new thing. And that's great for you guys.
And it was huge. But as far as a business goes, if it wasn't huge, why is Conor the biggest star in the world? Because Grappler? No.
No. Well, what it is is exciting. What's exciting? Submissions are exciting. Finishes are exciting. You know, Oliveira has lost a lot of it, or won, rather, a lot of his fights by submission.
But every big fighter really likes that. How come Muay Thai is in the biggest?
Pajero is huge because it's striking. Why? Hey, who won this fight? We don't even know. Exactly. Not very exciting.
But, Eddie, you get huge in the game if you strike.
Why isn't Muay Thai the biggest sport?
They don't have any stars.
Well, that's not true. 1FC is doing a really good job with it, but I really think they need an American promotion that's similar to 1FC that's willing to have just... Look, everybody, if you just want striking, you can get the best kickboxers in the fucking world to just have a fight in the cage with MMA gloves on. Exactly. And it's great.
And I think, you know, the UFC has, instead of slap fight, maybe that's the way to go, like there's an opportunity to have just like have stand-up only rules. Stand-up only rules are if you really want to see the wildest kickboxing in the world, it's not in the UFC. There's great fights in the UFC, but the wildest kickboxing is in Muay Thai.
Yeah, but Alex Piera came from that background, Glory World Champion. Is he? And they're champions. Of course, yeah.
But the threat of jiu-jitsu is what makes it big. Striking with the threat of jiu-jitsu? Agree 100%. I'm 100% with you, Eddie. Otherwise, glory would be the biggest thing in the world. Muay Thai would be huge. Muay Thai is not huge.
It should be huge. It's the same reason why the UFC almost wasn't huge. You need a Fertitta's. You need someone to come along that has a large amount of money, that understands business. Look, they were $40 million in the hole when they did UFC Ultimate Fighter 1. Wow. $40 million. And they were like, look, we can't.
There was one point in time where they had a phone call, and the Fertittas got on the phone with Dana, and they said, we're going to sell it. Let's sell it. And then Dana got a call from them the next morning. They changed their mind. I said, fuck it. Ride till the wheels fall off. Let's fund this ultimate fighter. And it was the craziest Hail Mary of all time.
And Stephen Bonner and Forrest Griffin in the finals had the craziest fight. And everybody tuned in. Millions of people were calling their friends saying, there's the wildest fucking fight. These guys are fighting in a cage on Spike TV. That was a crazy fight.
And it boomed.
The whole sport blew up. And then Chuck Liddell. The sport just exploded from there. But if Muay Thai doesn't have a Fertitta, you're not going to get that. You're not going to get all the stories, all the, you know, this guy.
Building stars.
Yeah, all the different. You're just going to see skill. You don't think Shot Tree is kind of like a Fertitta?
Yes, he is. And he's doing a great job doing that exact thing in 1FC, as well as including jiu-jitsu. But for whatever reason, it's not that popular in America. It's just not. I mean, it does really well in Asia. I don't know anybody outside of hardcore fans that's watching 1FC. It's not like my friends who are like a carpenter calls me up, hey, you watching 1FC tonight? It's not a thing.
Not in America. Outside of America, their views are higher than UFC fans. Like in Asia and shit, massive. Huge. Massive.
And they get big crowds. Huge. They have great fights, too. There's some great.
Stamp Fairtex.
I'm all for more fights. I'm all for more different ways of doing it. And I prefer their way of doing it where you have a bunch of different, like you can have a stand-up Muay Thai fight where you're in a cage with little MMA gloves. Well, Jeff Zip has that. Then they have straight grappling.
Like Mikey Mishimeshi was one of the main events underneath the MMA. That was the MMA. Rutolo Brothers.
Rutolo Brothers. It's dope. It's so good. It's scary. I can't believe how good they are. I've been watching the Rutolo brothers after we had them on the pod. They're so ridiculous.
Did you watch Cade Rutolo versus Andrew Tackett in CJI?
I think so, yes.
People are calling that the most exciting jiu-jitsu match, and it didn't even have a finish. The most exciting jiu-jitsu match, and it didn't even have a finish. It's violent, dude. Now, both of those guys, Cade Rutolo and Andrew Tackett, both are combat jiu-jitsu world's champions. Imagine them, that fight, with fucking strikes. That'd be dope. Although it's a different thing, right?
I DM'd Shotry and said, yo, do that in one. They both are champions in combat jiu-jitsu. They're both into it. Cade even does MMA. I'm sorry, what is combat jiu-jitsu?
Can you imagine that?
Andrew Tackett versus Cade Rutolo with fucking strikes, dog.
That would be fucking huge. What is the difference?
Combat jiu-jitsu is jiu-jitsu with strikes.
Okay. With punching? No, no.
Just palm strikes.
So it's like pancreas.
You can fuck somebody up with your palms. Do we have knockouts and fucking... Feel this.
We have knockouts and TKOs all the time. Now try to do that with your knuckles. I know. Try to do that with your knuckles. It's going to hurt.
Ow.
And you're not going to break your hand. Ow. That hurts. Ow. You could hit someone pretty fucking hard.
While we have a little time, can I... Do you want a little plug? Yeah, of course. Jiu-Jitsu Overdose is my attempt to do like Jiu-Jitsu Coachella, like a Coachella Jiu-Jitsu. Oh, this is the Mexico thing. In Cancun in December, we're having Jiu-Jitsu Overdose. I'm having all my shows, Combat Jiu-Jitsu Worlds, EBI, Medusa, which is female Combat Jiu-Jitsu, and Combat Jiu-Jitsu Mexico.
Every night, a different show, and during the day, a seminar. Jean-Jacques Machado. This is it right here. Combat Jiu-Jitsu Worlds, EBI, Medusa.
Dude, I'll come to stand up there. You told me to do that.
But you declined. When is it?
It's also going to happen. Piece of shit.
It's too late, dog. It's too late. You had your chance. But this is it right here. This is it. Jiu-Jitsu overdose. It's every night a different Jiu-Jitsu show. During the day, a different seminar. And then at night, comedians that do Jiu-Jitsu. Sam Tripoli. Chingo Bling. I asked you, but you were like, your manager said it's not enough money. I didn't pay you enough.
It was too cheap. I'm not going to do it for free. I've done it for free. What are you talking about? I didn't charge you at all. I think I'm going to be in Denver. And it's going to be a Planet Hollywood.
You think you're going to be in Denver? You don't know where you're going to be?
What's the date?
It's December 11th through December 16th.
I'm at Comedy Works.
You go to jujitsuoverdose.com. It's going to be a Planet Hollywood, all-inclusive. That means free food, free drinks. You get to watch jujitsu every night, a seminar every day, and dance. Comedy every night my goal was to create the ultimate jiu-jitsu experience. That was my offer jiu-jitsu Coachella for jiu-jitsu, right?
You're crushing I'm gonna do it every every December.
This is the first one. We're gonna do it every December every night And you know what what what fucking prove that shit for me PGF they do you it's a it's a it's coming in November same thing a jiu-jitsu show every night for five nights, dude, I ref that shit and
it was so much it was the it was the only vacation i ever took where i could have stayed another week every vacation i've ever taken i couldn't wait to get home i would change flights i wonder if i like like tonight i'm like supposed to leave tomorrow i want to leave tonight you know what i mean i'm going to change my flight for tonight every vacation i've ever been on i was in hawaii with my family
And my wife goes, we were supposed to leave Saturday afternoon, and it's like Friday afternoon. She goes, I changed the flight for tonight. She didn't say, you're going to be mad, I'm sorry, but we have to leave. She already knew. And she goes, I changed the flight for tonight. I'm like, fuck yeah, let's get the fuck out of Oahu. Get the fuck out of here.
I'm done with this shit. Waikiki Beach. Okay, I get it. We went out on a boat.
We went out on a boat to go look at fucking... Do you talk about this on stage? No. Write it down. For real, Eddie. For real, for real, for real.
I don't even know how to start that.
You hate vacations.
Dude, we went on, okay, we're going to go see fucking sea turtles. Like a mile out of the ocean. Yeah. I saw Jaws 1, 2, and 3 when they came out, dog. Jaws 3 and 3D. That fucked me up. That gave me PTSD for the ocean. But my son wanted to go fucking deep sea diving for fucking turtles. Yo, I fucking had to suck it up. I'm like, these kids are doing it. You could do it. You could do it.
These fucking kids are doing it. There was a bunch of kids. I jumped in the ocean. You jumped in the ocean. Ocean, dog. In the... All I kept thinking about was Jaws 3 and 3B.
I won't do that shit. I'm not into that shit.
I'm not into that shit. Yeah, of course you do. I'm not trying to go in the fucking ocean.
Tim was like, you're going swimming. He knows what I know.
Shut up.
You deserve it. I hope Jake Shields is in that water.
And then I tried to wrestle with him on the beach, too. It didn't go well.
Yeah, good move. Why don't you wrestle Tim Kennedy? But the point was. Legitimate psychopath. Oh, my God.
the point was black belt world champion good luck special forces special forces one of the toughest men ever that's ever walked on earth won't you go hunting with campaigns he was in the fucking water for an hour with no wetsuit and he wasn't cold i was in a wetsuit out with 15 minutes i was like this they're not the type of dude to find out how long you have to be in the water till you're dead yeah right and then five minutes before that he gets out yeah
Yeah.
Do you ever hear a story about him where he swam? He decided, you know, I'm going to end it. He kind of just swam all the way out, and the fog was so thick. He was swimming for like three hours. He was having trouble moving his legs. And that's the Morro Bay. It's a great white breeding ground. And he's there in the dawn. He's out there. A woman saw him get completely naked and get in the water.
What?
Yep. And so she's like, something's not right. And he just kept swimming. He's like two miles out in the middle of the ocean.
And he's naked. Why naked? Because he was like, fuck it.
He was like, fuck it.
If you're going to die, that's the way to die.
So he can't feel his legs. He's just out there. And the Coast Guard comes up and they go, what are you doing out here in the drink? And he starts rattling off his life story. He goes, I fucking got a girl pregnant. I got another girl pregnant. I'm all fucked up my whole life. I got kicked out of the police force, out of the fucking fire department. My life's a mess.
And that guy goes, okay, you want to sit out here in the drink or you want to come on board? And he goes, I don't know. You know, Tim. And he goes, and the guy goes, he looks at me and goes, your dick looks tiny in this water. And it made Tim so mad that he was like, get the fuck off. And he climbed up on there and they put a blanket around him and stuff.
That's a smart dude. He knows how to get to it, man.
Tim's the one who got me working out again, got me sober. Yeah, Tim's the best.
Oh, really? Yeah.
No shit.
That's awesome. I love Tim. I'm going hunting with him two days from now. What are you guys hunting? Deer and partridge and pheasant. Oh, where at? In London. Anytime you want to come out. Oh, really? In London, huh?
So is that roe deer?
Dude, yeah. Do they use dogs to fetch the partridges and shit? Yeah. And pheasants? They drive the pheasants and the partridge. It's murder in the sky. Fucking murder in the sky. Pheasants are a weird one.
You know, pheasants are a wild bird, but not really.
Right.
Pheasants are a weird one. You know what they do? They have these some places where they do a canned hunt. This is when Dick Cheney shot his friend in the face. So it was this canned hunt. Dude, they just have these boxes of birds and they open them up and the birds fly and these old drunk dudes just start blowing them out of the sky. Boom. Boom. Boom. It's the lamest.
It's the lamest thing of all time.
Listening to you, Luke Bryant, when you guys talk about hunting, I've never been into hunting. I was like, damn, I kind of want to go hunting.
Oh, it's so fun.
That kind of hunting is the kind of hunting that he does and the kind of hunting that I do for sure. I do almost all of my hunts are mountain hunts.
You ever seen a monk jack? You see how small they are?
What's a monk jack?
So it's a deer, and it's literally a full-grown one. Oh, I can't shoot that. No, why would you want to shoot them, man?
Aw, look at the little sweetie.
They're so good.
Look at the little sweetie. I'd shoot it.
Man, we eat it. They're really elusive.
I'm lying. I would eat it. Especially if it's the only thing you can hunt.
Yep, and roebuck. Oh, that's a baby. Don't get the baby. Come on, you piece of shit.
You get the baby? Bro, you know what's the easiest to hunt? You know what's the easiest to hunt? Pigs. When you hunt wild pigs, it's like you're hunting orcs.
they're making these crazy noise my boy owns a truffle farm in in italy right and they used to hunt well they used to look for truffles with pigs right you know why they're doing it they don't do it anymore they use dogs now and i was like why he goes Oh, because the problem is, before we had pointers, a pig, if you're a truffle farmer, 100% you're losing your fingers.
It's like every truffle farmer is like, hey, how you doing? Nice to meet you. Oh, because you're trying to get the pig out of the way and they just bite? Yeah, because a one white truffle can cost $6,000, right? So you're getting that truffle. That's gold, right? And the pig will eat. And the pig, you're not getting the pig off that truffle. So you don't eat your fingers.
They will fucking chew right through your fingers.
Yeah, they eat people all the time. I think it's one of the number one ways people die on farms. They fall into a pig pen. Like an old guy have a heart attack, fall into a pig pen. They just devour it. It all depends on how you treat the pigs, though. I don't think so.
That regenerative farm that I was at, there was a bunch of pigs and we hung out with the pigs.
They were all like dogs. That's fine. I was like, you're going to kill these pigs? I think there's an argument for that because if you're in a cage, And then the food falls into the cage. Like, anything on the ground is probably food to them. It's just meat on the ground. Yeah. And probably they hate their life because they're in a fucking cage.
It was the first time I ever saw pigs on a farm. And they fucking, it's true. They love, like, mud puddles. Oh, yeah. They get, they, they, dude, they love mud puddles. I thought that was some cartoon shit. Ankalayev and Rakic is a really good fight. It's a great fight.
The only thing is, Rakic looked really good against Yuri, but Yuri just would not stop coming after him. Would not stop coming and eventually got him. So you've got to wonder.
It's a tough fight for Ankalayev. It's a tough fight for both guys.
Ankalayev's a fucking beast. That guy is not getting his due for whatever reason.
For whatever reason. The draw, right? The draw kind of fucked them a little bit. He had a shot.
The draw with Jan, but you can't fault him for two of the best guys in the world fighting their heart out and coming to a draw.
I never heard of this guy.
But they do because it wasn't the most exciting fight, so they move on. It wasn't the most exciting fight because they're both so good. No, I'm with you, John. See, I don't... I like tatering to casuals. This is why I'm down with Eddie's idea, and I have the exact same idea. Keeping the fight going at the next round. If you are in the mount, keep it going.
I don't think anybody should ever get stood up, ever, for any reason other than a foul.
Why? Exactly. Watch boxing. Go watch boxing. Exactly. They keep them on their feet. If you stand up boxing, they never go to the ground. They never go. Go watch boxing.
If a guy's on top of you and he gouges your eye and there's a foul and they take a point away, fuck yeah, stand him up. If you're going to let him keep fighting or if you're going to disqualify him, disqualify him. This is one of the craziest ones. You remember, what's that girl's name? Priscilla Coshuera. She was getting choked and I think it was... Was it Gillian Murphy that got her?
I forget who's, I find out who that is.
So she's stuck her thumb into her eyeball.
It's horrible. That's what Paul Harris did to Jake Shields. But watch this. Well, Paul Harris held on to, he gouged a bunch of people, but he also held on to Jake's Kimura. He got him in a Kimura and didn't let go.
Yeah, Paul Harris was known for hanging on to stuff. Bad guy. And then Nate Marquardt beat the shit out of him. Can you show me that, Jamie? I don't know.
How did you remember her fucking last name, Don?
Because I commented to that fight and I was horrified. I was like, that girl should not... No one even knows how to spell it. She should not be fighting.
To defend your take on Ankaliev, too, about him not being the most exciting, you realize, I was listening, he only shoots once. Every 15 minutes. On Goliath? Yes. So we're all like, oh, he's this grappler.
All he does is wrestle. No, not really. Well, he started shooting on Yon because Yon had fucked his legs up. So here it is. Look at that. That's Jillian Robertson. Jillian Robertson.
Oh, Robertson.
There you go. Jillian Robertson has her in. She's been on the podcast. She's cool. Look at this. Look at it. In the eyeball, bro. In the eyeball. That's not right. Fight or flight there. But that doesn't matter. You can't ever do that. You can't ever do that. It's frowned upon. But that's such a dangerous foul. That's not even like a kick in the nuts foul.
No, that's a life changing.
You could ruin someone's eyes forever.
Did they notice it? Did they stand him up? I don't remember.
She's fought since.
But the whole narrative on him being like, oh, just a grappler born guy. Not really, man. Most of his stuff is done on the feet. He's a very good striker.
Well, it all depends on how you look at that stat. If he's like, he only takes people down one time every, like, 15 minutes. Maybe he takes them down and keeps them down for a long time. Sure. So you got to factor that in.
Well, he's only lost one time other than the draw, and that was to Paul Craig. Paul Craig caught him in a triangle. Like, the last second of the round.
He was winning the entire fight, then Paul Craig caught him in a triangle.
Paul Craig got great jiu-jitsu. It's a great guy. Phenomenal. Yeah. I love it. Triangle. He's so fast. Yes. I'm very excited. I'm very excited. What?
And at 185. Damn. Paul Craig's dropped down to 85. He's huge for 85. He was fighting 205? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know.
Bo Nickel, that dude.
Don't you remember what he did to Jamal?
I don't remember.
He fucked his arm up. Remember? He broke his arm.
I'm not like you and Brendan remembering everything from the UFC. You guys are retarded. Yeah. Remember, you guys know everything. It's literally my job. Jesus Christ.
It's one of my jobs. It's kind of mine, too. Yeah. We both have jobs.
You guys need to have a separate MMA show, man.
Joe knows way more than I do. The UFC is the only thing that I have ever done that doesn't feel like a job that's an actual job. I get a check.
I can't give enough of it. But it's about remembering shit. I put on shows like EBI. I was the ref for all those fights. I don't remember any of them. I was standing right there. And people are like, dude, you reffed my fight. I'm like, who are you? Like, do I know you? You're like, yeah, dude. I don't remember shit.
I suffer from that, too. But you know what that is, right?
You've got to see it again. You've got to see them over and over. So what I want to know, when do you guys, at night or in the morning, do you guys review fights?
It's all I listen to. It's all I consume.
No, but like at night? Before you go to bed?
If I watch fights, it's purely for entertainment and less it's getting ready for an event. So when you get ready for an event, what do you do? There's like, say there's some cat on the car that I haven't seen fight before. I'll go search his name on YouTube. And watch all his fights? Yeah, I'll watch the LFA fights.
No notes?
No, I do it in my head.
Mostly in my head. It's incredible how you guys, like when you guys start going off YouTube, I don't even want to jump in. I'm like, I don't know shit. Like, I don't remember anything from the UFC.
Bro, but I have so many friends that are like, they know all these things about sports. I don't know who anybody is unless they marry someone famous. Like, I don't know who anybody is unless they get arrested. Someone has to do something. That's why I was surprised I saw you at the Texas game. I had a great time. My wife is a big football fan.
And Hinchcliffe's a big football fan, and so is Ron White. Longhorns? Yeah. Bro, the excitement. Oh, here we go. The excitement of being at a giant college football game is fucking wild. There's nothing like it, bro. It was awesome. The energy is awesome.
See, I think Rackett can get it done. Even though he's on two-fight losing skid, it's still a tough fucking fight for Nick Goliath.
You never can count guys out when they're on skids. Look at Charles Oliveira. Remember when Charles Oliveira was on that skid? Yeah.
What's a skid?
He was losing a bunch.
Losing a bunch.
Look at Max Holloway. Yeah. Well, Max was just to Alexander Volkanovski. But still. Volkanovski just had his number. And that's Volkanovski in the peak of his performance.
But I don't even know if he had his number. Those fights were so close.
No, the third one, he made it clear.
The second one, I thought Max won, honestly. Me too. But Volkanovski in the third one ran away with it. And that's when a lot of people started thinking the best days of Max are behind him. But that's also Max not sparring, which is really interesting. Because then you see Max gets ready for the Gaethje fight, and he starts sparring again. And then you see this completely different Max.
Dude, but it was even before that. Korean Zombie was before that. Yep. Yep. Look, Max is a monster, man. And he's not old. He's 32. Like, he's still in the peak.
Topura is 30. It's not like they're young kids. Yeah, exactly. Look at Alex Pereira. He's 37. He's smart, though, because he knows the clock's ticking, so he's trying to... Just monetize it. What do you got? I'll fight him.
People were thinking, and I was probably guilty of it myself, that that Justin Gaethje fight was scary to me. I hated it. Gaethje's so big. Oh, bro, I'm on record going, Max, why?
Why? Please don't do this. I was worried about him in that one.
But you see his performance, and you're like, oh, oh, oh, we got to recalculate and recalibrate and remember Max when he beat up Calvin Cato. We got to remember Max when he was piecing up Jose Aldo.
Twice, bubba. Yeah, bro. He's warm enough.
Yeah, well, no, no, no.
Dustin Poirier pieced him up. That's a bad one.
Dustin pieced him up. In regards to sparring?
It was still a war, dude. In regards to sparring? No, no, no. That was not a war. That was not a war.
Dan Hooker and Dustin Poirier was a war. Max Holloway and Dustin Poirier was Dustin Poirier.
That was tough to watch. Running away with it. But Dustin got tagged up. No, no, no. He even said, I left a piece of myself in there. No, no.
You're thinking of a different fight. You left a piece of yourself in there? I bet that was Dan Hooker you're thinking about.
Yeah, Dustin fucked him up. It was rough to watch.
That Dan Hooker fight was bananas. Dustin and Dan Hooker went to war. It was just back and forth. There's a video of it with no commentary on YouTube, and you watch it, and you go, Jesus, because it's at the apex, and you just hear him rip, rip, rip. Those guys duked it out. Dustin just squeaked by with that one.
Such a close fight. How about Hooker Conner?
Is that real, though?
Well, Conner and Hooker said it's real, but Dana's like, I don't think so.
This is no commentary. Listen to this shit. It's great. It's just brutal.
Fucking slinging.
I know striking. This is crazy.
Look how big Rakic is, dude. That back. Striking in regards to sparring. Striking, I really am no expert in striking when you're training for a fight and sparring. But in grappling, if you're going to do Abu Dhabi, if you're going to do ADCC, you're going to do EBI, if you're not fucking sparring with the hardest guys you can find every day, you have no chance.
In grappling, you have no chance if you're not sparring. You have no chance. I think you're spot on. That's a fucking fact. Striking, I don't know because it's different.
You're right. What they're trying to do is minimize the biggest threat, which is head injuries.
You can't. In striking, I get it. If you don't spar, you just drill. But in grappling, you have no shot.
You don't need to be striking either, really, because it's like being a firefighter and not training in a hot environment. Well, you know what the Dutch guys do? You have to.
What the Dutch guys do is they don't go hard to the head. So they go real hard to the legs and to the body, and they pull punches to the face.
Don't Muay Thai guys do the same thing when they train?
Muay Thai guys do the opposite. They play.
Muay Thai guys go hard.
No, no, no, no, no. They play. Muay Thai guys in Thailand, because they fight every week. Right. So you can't afford to be all fucked up. You're watching Muay Thai.
They're sparring.
He's actually fighting. Yeah. Correct.
Right.
But they do spar. But when they spar, they spar like a lot of times with no pads.
But they don't need to, right, Joe? Because they have so many fights.
It's unlike this. Who are the guys in UFC history who sparred striking the hardest? Vanderlei, Anderson Silva, Verdum. They sparred hard, right? Shane Carwin.
Me and Shane Carwin.
You want to see some real sparring? Watch some of those guys, some of those boxers. Like some of those Mexican boxers. Strickland spars all the time, right? All the time.
Strickland's number one. He's number one. He spars more than he does anything, they say. And look how calm he is in the third, fourth, and fifth rounds. Because he's doing it. That kind of cardio is a different kind of cardio. And you've seen the way Strickland spars. He basically fights. He fights people, especially if you start melting.
You've got to spar.
You've got to spar.
You've got to spar. You know who sparred hard as fuck was TJ Dillashaw.
Oh, yeah.
Really sad. Oh, yeah.
All those alpha male guys. Oh, bubba. Can you imagine you're trying to win a wrestling championship and you're not sparring? It's impossible.
But I think guys were just trying to figure out how to minimize getting head trauma.
There's a way to do it. You've got to spar with people who you trust.
It's tough, Joe. I don't think you can come out unscathed. It's just what you signed up for. No, no, no.
You cannot come out unscathed, but you can minimize the damage if you spar with people that you trust, that they know they're going to get you. They'll hit you with a little of that and not full clip and try to take you out.
It's tough to find those guys. It's very hard. I watched that Better Be B-Ball fight, and even when B-Ball had his hands up, he would get hit in the gloves, and his spine would still take the reverberation.
That was a very interesting fight. It's such an interesting boxing match between the Russian style of amateur boxing. So sophisticated, just like their wrestling program. So sophisticated. And to see those two tacticians.
Incredible.
39.
And storming the gates in the fucking 10th, 11th, and 12th rounds. Oh! Evol was getting in trouble in the latter half of the fight.
Brendan, you're right, man. Uncle Ives' first thought is just to strike, man.
Yeah, so the narrative of him being like this boring grappler striker, doesn't get a title shot, you're like, eh, if you look at the stats, he's actually more of a striker.
He said he wanted to stand with Pereira. He said Pereira doesn't have a chin. That's a bad idea. That's fucking fun for us. What are you talking about? Shut up, Brendan. You're ruining everything. You ruined the Kamala thing. You ruined the Kamala thing and now you're ruining this? I'm sorry, I'm off my game. Bro. Yeah, I'm a big fan of Ankalayev. I think he got a real raw deal.
I think the Jan Bohovic fight is not his fault. It was a great fight, and I thought he did what he had to do to win. He took him to the ground because his fucking leg was gone. What do you want to do, get a concussion?
But I also get from Dana White in the UFC, it's like, he had a shot, let's keep going. These guys have similar stories.
Man, I think you've got to be a purist. I think the best guys have to fight the best guys, period. And that's one of the fucking best guys for sure. And the fact that he's not always in the conversation of who to fight next for the title. But he's been talking shit, and now Pereira's mad at him. So Pereira is telling him he's going to have to wait.
Yeah, the UFC have forced him. But so far, he's losing this fight.
He lost that first round. If you make Pereira angry, you have a real problem on your hands. He's terrifying. He's the most terrifying guy ever in the sport.
How big is he, by the way?
He's enormous, but it's the skill, man. It's the skill.
Standing right there.
He's also... Khalil? Oh, my God.
He was right in his face. He kept just moving forward.
Right in his face. Just sliding away from punches and landing thudding bows. Did you hear what Mark Goddard told me?
he never heard a sound like that right he said 20 years of refereeing fights terrible terrible mark garden impression i didn't it was ungodly ungodly the sound ungodly he made sure he came over to me to tell me that like with this look in his eyes like it's ungodly i heard it i was cage side it was crazy loud Bro, he hits so hard. He is a special dude, man. He's built different, man.
I'm telling you, there's something different. You see his sister, too?
Goddamn.
She's got the same skills as him, man. That left hook KO and karate combat. She's fucking nasty. I hope she gets signed to the UFC, too. That would be crazy. The Pereira sister wins a title and he wins a title. What if it's the same way? What if she storms the gates, too, and just starts fucking lighting people up on fire?
Speaking of women's, Tatiana Suarez is out again. She's injured. She's been injured so many times.
I know that poor girl.
She's so good.
She's 30 now, too. I know. She's so good, dude. It's a bummer. People keep forgetting about her. They shouldn't. Tatiana's one of the best female wrestlers to ever compete in the sport, man. She's so dominant. Yeah. That sucks they keep getting hurt. Look at, I mean, we were talking about TJ.
Oh, that was a nice left hand. Oh, he just caught him.
TJ Dillshaw. TJ Dillshaw got ruined because of injuries, man.
You know why? Because he went so fucking hard in the paint. You want to talk about Kobe mentality in MMA? Nothing close. If you get an inch on him, he would salivate. He beat Sam Hagen with one leg. Remember that. Dude, somebody would get something on him in training, and literally he couldn't just let it go.
He said his whole family was like that. They would race on the way home.
See who gets it over first. Savage.
Yeah, he said his family is super, super competitive. He's a great dude.
He's crushing it. His supplements are good. Really?
Yeah, I just saw him at Olympia.
I'm happy for him. I keep seeing him try to rehabilitate. His supplements are good? What does that mean? He has great supplements now. He has protein powder, healthy protein powder.
Doesn't everybody? No. Well, he's just saying, Eddie, that his business is doing well.
Oh, I'm saying he owns it. It's his business. Oh, it's his business.
Yeah. Okay.
I thought you meant like, okay.
He sent me a bunch of the protein powder.
Oh, you thought he was like taking stuff.
Oh, no. Yeah, like doesn't everybody take shit? No, I do. Oh, that's hilarious. That's hilarious.
No, he has a company. He has like a seasoning company too. Doesn't he have like a wild game seasoning company? I think so. I think so.
What if every UFC fighter just got on, like, a stem cell, like, regimen? Oh, my God. Imagine. It was just, like, standard.
It was just standard.
The sport would go. Yeah. The stem cells.
If the FDA didn't regulate it the way they do, if they just allow what the CGI is doing down in Tijuana. CPI. CPI. CPI. CPI, Cellular Performance Institute. Ed Clay.
What do you think of overall?
I just talked to them.
No, they just send people to TJ, CPI, like on the regular. Because it's real stem cells.
But listen, Eddie, they should be able to do that in Vegas at the fucking Performance Institute. Yes. They should have it at the UPI.
Right after the fight. They won't allow that.
They won't allow that. No, no, no. They should and they will. Eventually they will. Yeah, because enough people are going to get healed by it where they realize it can save people from all sorts of problems. Neurological conditions. It radically repairs tissue damage, soft tissue.
Yes. I just heard one of the biggest fighters of all time, for some reason, I'm not allowed to say his name, but one of the biggest fighters of all time.
Does his name rhyme with George St. Pierre? No. That's what I was going to call him.
No, no. Bigger, way bigger than that. Way bigger than that. George C.P.I. Wait a minute, that's not even possible. Went to C.P.I. in Tijuana and is about to have a fight and it's going to be... Floyd. I ain't going to say nothing.
What are you doing? For some reason, it was a secret. Oh, it's Mike Tyson. It was a secret. How do you know? How would you know? I didn't say that. I didn't say that.
That's the only guy. Who the fuck is bigger? It's Mike Tyson. Who's bigger than George St. Pierre? Mike Tyson.
No, that's not true.
There's nobody else way bigger than George St.
Pierre than Mike Tyson. Yo, come on. Who? Joe.
Joey Beltran.
Oh, so you did. Okay, it's 100% Mike Tyson. Good pull. It's Mike Tyson. Joe, does it matter where you shoot him in?
No, you shoot him in your dick mostly. That's what I do. Yeah, you have to spot wherever the injury is. It's in your knee. They put it in your knee.
It fits both my shoulders. Dude, I'm lifting like a motherfucker because of the fucking Stam's dog. I was going to have surgery on this motherfucker. Torn labrum. Surgery. And what happened? They shot it up like a motherfucker. Went down a TJ. Did you know there's a part of TJ that's nice? I didn't know that. I heard, I heard. I didn't know that. I thought it was all Favela.
I went down there and I'm like, I feel like I'm in West LA.
That's where all the off-road companies are at, like McNeil Racing, all that shit.
Don't touch this area. Round three, boys. This is heating up. Uncle Ive's actually connecting more. He is. It's a good fight.
It's probably 1-1. I think Uncle Ive is actually pretty warm. No, Rackick won that first round.
Did he?
Yes.
Okay.
Now I have been talking about stem cells, but I think you won the first.
How many times have you done stem cells, Joe?
Oh, dozens.
Really?
Yeah, I started doing them a long time ago. But you're doing the United States ones, though. It's different. Yeah, it's definitely different.
No, no, no. There's a reason why CPI is in Tijuana, because what they're doing, dog.
The real shit.
100%.
It's different. It's fucking different. And then there's also Panama, Neil Reardon's place in Panama. They're doing similar shit. And then there's the other place in Colombia that's really good, Bio Accelerator.
If they allowed it in the United States, what they're doing at CPI, they wouldn't be in TJ. They're only in TJ because they have to be. So what do you do?
get it this is what I injuries injuries there's a lot of people that have help help with neurological conditions like they're doing IV stem cells with people that have like certain I can hook you up easy I just talked to him you have everything's wrong with you I'm 57 you need some stems doc you need some stems stop lying
How's your dick working? Is it working fine? My dick works very well.
Is it good?
Okay. I'm waiting.
Congratulations.
Can they do something for Callan's hair down there?
Hey, man.
The next thing with stems is hair regrowth and fucking dick stems. Dick stems, dog. They're working on dick stems. It's going to make your dick bigger and fucking stronger.
Wow. I'm excited. Imagine if... If Bushes came back, if Bushes came back, people are tired of shaved pussies. Oh, God. Shaved balls. No, man. So let's just go natural. Maybe it'll be more attractive to people.
Wasn't that a thing for a while? Did you shave your balls? Yeah, in the 70s. Did you shave your balls? Yeah, yeah.
I do now, especially because there's so much gray down there.
It's so depressing. I go down to a Brazilian wax place, and I go, don't wax me. Can you trim me instead? And, dude, I get trimmed. Do they put your legs up like a baby?
Everything.
Congratulations. They trim my whole body. Just use a manscape. But I don't want... Does a guy do it or a girl do it? A girl, dog. That poor lady. Imagine if my balls... It's an old Russian lady.
Uncle Ive is connecting on Rockick right now.
An old Russian lady trims my balls.
I don't think that's legal. You should probably not tell that to people online.
No, no, it's legal. It's totally legal. Oh, that's another shot. He's winning this round.
Oh, Uncle Ive is... Uncle Ive's kind of taking over. Well, Rockick has a tendency sometimes to fade.
Rockick? It's a lot of muscle.
Because he's so fast.
A lot of muscle. A lot of fast twitch.
It's so hard for those big jack guys to keep a high pace.
Oh, wrestling? No.
That's going to be tough.
A single leg.
He's no punk there, but he's tough.
He's not doing so good in the stand-up, but at least this slows it down a little. But when you're down, you need to finish. Yeah, but he might be in survival mode here.
Yeah, he got tagged.
100%.
Clearly. Yeah, especially like Francis. Yeah. Like, that's crazy that they let him fight in that next round. Wild, dude. In MMA, it would most likely be over.
Yeah, unless the clock was running down.
Someone dives on top of you, hammer fists you a couple times.
Game over. That's why I think with Topiria, I think we're going to see more grappling. See?
He's grappling. He's so complete, man. He's so complete. But he's also super cocky, and Max is... A real warrior, man. He's the real deal.
See, I think Max has an advantage on the feet.
Who knows? He's got length, that's for sure.
And experience.
But Ilya is so fast, and he's so lethal when he gets inside. So technically good, too. And every shot is so dangerous.
Such a good boxer.
Every shot can put you away. The way he put away Alex, I know Alex was coming off of that knockout loss to Islam, but it was still. The way he knocked out Jai Herbert after he got head kicked in the first round. Yeah.
Bro, it's hard to see the subtleties to when you're that good like that where they put their feet And the way and the way he survived Ryan Hall's jiu-jitsu onslaught. Oh, yeah that right there He ran he rolled with Ryan Hall because it's like rolling with fucking water like a wave.
Yeah What to period did the fucking? Brian Brian Mitchell
Oh, yeah.
Bryce Mitchell? Bryce Mitchell, yeah. He's a savage, yeah.
Ragdoll him. Ragdoll him. He's dangerous. He's really fucking dangerous.
What's up? Isn't Bryce mainly a jiu-jitsu guy?
That's all he is. Bryce has got good stand-up, man. He knocked down Edson Barboza. Yeah. Remember? His stand-up's not that bad. It's just his jiu-jitsu is real, real good.
Real good. His stand-up's good. How awesome is Bryce Mitchell's persona? It's hilarious. I always thought he was just a farmer from the get, but he's a city guy whose grandma was a farmer. And then he'd go visit his grandma, and it's like, dude, I want to live like this. He was a city dude.
Yeah.
I always thought he was just a farmer, just based on what you see on Instagram. But he became a farmer because his grandma was a farmer. You ever heard him rap? No, no, he can do it.
Dude, he's got fucking bars, dog. I believe it. No, he can rap. He can rap.
I think I have a guy that's...
There might be video out there, Jamie, of Bryce Mitchell rapping. I watched it this morning. Oh, you did? He's good. He's good. Check this out. Check this out.
No, there's one of him freestyling. Pasture fire.
Perfect.
Already it's great.
He can rap, dude.
Can he?
Yes.
Watch. Yo. This has 413,000 views. That's a lot of views, though. How many?
That's good. He's great. Jamie, find him. That's good. I'll wait till Jamie gets back. You like this, you old fuck? That's pretty good. There's one with him with the schmo. Yeah, he can fucking freestyle. Dude. Okay, who won this fight? Uncle Ive? I'm going to go with the beard guy. 100% Uncle Ive.
But, you know, decisions are sketch. Especially in Abu Dhabi.
We've had some decisions that were fucking... What do you think is more corrupt? Vegas decisions or Abu Dhabi decisions? Abu Dhabi.
You think? All day. Really? I think they bring the same judges everywhere, man.
Do they?
Where do the judges sit? You don't think Abu Dhabi got some Muslim judges? I don't know.
I don't know what the rules are.
I think in some places, I know they do referees in some places. So you say if you go to a state like Kentucky, for example, you have to use a certain amount of state referees. And some of them aren't really qualified to be doing a UFC like that happened in Salt Lake City. A guy got pulled from the rest of the card. Taito Iwasa. Yeah, the guy. This was a different one in Salt Lake City recently.
Do you know which one I'm talking about with Taito Iwasa? No. Oh, it was in Australia. The dude gave it like ten eight four tied two of us said what he clearly lost the fight They literally kicked him out after the fall.
That's right.
That's another one. Fuck.
Yeah, that was a judge Yeah, that was a good judge They got to do that when someone gives a crazy decision like that where it was like shut the fuck up But what I was talking about is referees So this referee did a real he like kept separating people like instantly they clinch instantly separate him as soon as the crowd would boo Fuck's up. Break it up Start fighting again.
And everybody's like, what are you doing? He missed a nut shot or an eye poke. I forget which one it is. But they kicked that guy out. So it does happen occasionally. But I think the judges, for the most part, I think are the same. I think they're like our traveling judges. I think the judges they think are the good judges.
You think? I think some of them are good judges.
Some of them are good judges, but every now and then you get a decision where you're like, whoever the fuck thought the fight went that way really shouldn't be doing this at a professional level.
And they don't have to take any accountability.
Well, they do. They can get fired.
Yeah, maybe, but it's rare. They should have some sort of spokesman, the same as the president does, that comes out and they ask questions. How the fuck did you score that 10-8? And they're like, well, he said he scored it because of this. And you go, okay, that at least makes sense.
I feel like three is too little. Three opinions is just not enough. I think Glory has four or five. I think you should have five.
100%.
Where do they sit? They have to at least be practitioners.
If you don't do jujitsu, you don't know what the fuck is going on. So you don't know if it's close or not close. You don't know if a guy's fine or if a guy's in deep shit. You really don't know. You don't know what you're looking at. It's like listening to someone speak French and you don't speak French. Like... I guess they're talking. I don't know what the fuck they're saying.
If you see people scrambling and you don't know what's going on, you just see two bodies whirling around. But if you're Eddie Bravo, you see exactly what's going on. You see when a guy's in trouble. If you're judging and you can't differentiate between those two things, you have no business judging. I think that's the point, though.
I think the point is, this is a conspiracy. The people at the top, the casinos and all the betting, they want you to blame the judges and not blame them. So they put in incompetent people. I never met a bookie with a part-time job. I think incompetent judges are very important to the high level. Where are they? Cape side. They sit Cape side. They should be. There's a lot of money involved.
That's weird, too, because that's one angle.
There definitely is that. Do you remember that there was a lady that she was responsible for a couple real bad boxing decisions?
The Bird. What was that? Bird? No, no, no.
She's a nice lady. Yes, exactly. Adelaide Bird? No, Adelaide Bird is a nice lady. Okay. She had to go into hiding.
No martial arts experience.
It's crazy. It's like me teaching flight school. Yeah. I've been on a plane. Fuck it. Let's go. Adelaide Byrd? Come on. Nice lady. I love her. She's a sweetheart. But yeah, me and Dan Cormier, and her name came up. He goes, oh, Adelaide Byrd. I go, she's a nice lady. She's a wonderful lady. She's a wonderful... She's a nice lady.
But yeah, if you're a professional and you're fighting for the title, and one judge sees it correctly, and then she sees it wildly incorrectly, and then another judge sees it incorrectly.
Life-changing. First of all, I wouldn't have them sitting together.
Look at this. 118-110 decision in favor of Canelo. Adelaide Bird. Oh, boy. Oh, Adelaide. She's a good girl. She's a nice lady.
I would never have them sit together. She's a nice person. You just want to judge in box.
That was the Canelo fight where it looked like Triple G beat him. That was bad. Yeah, the first fight, Triple G, in my mind, beat him.
Nothing's more correct than box. What's the latest with Triple G? I know him. He's old. It's over? Yeah. There's nothing, not one more big thing for him? No. Nothing? He looked a little juicy in his last fight.
42. Oh, he's 42 already? He's still fighting.
I think he's won some odd title. Yeah, he won his last one, yeah.
Wasn't it a title?
Yeah.
Some strange title? It's over. Tyson fight still going on? Yeah. That's still going on? Well, you know. You were watching him get stem cells, you son of a bitch. I didn't say that.
I didn't say shit!
God damn. You got caught, dude.
I didn't say shit. I wasn't supposed to say nothing.
Eddie had the best... Ah, now you really said it! No, but...
But I didn't say anything. I didn't say anything. We got you, son.
We leaked it out of you. But Eddie had the best take on that Tyson-Jake Paul thing. He was like, if you want to get people intrigued, which nobody is, if you want to get people intrigued, you do it bare knuckle. You're telling me you would have been over the wall if you found out Mike Tyson was going to punch somebody bare knuckle and it's Jake Paul?
I think bare knuckle saves boxing. Just make it bare knuckle.
Fuck the big ass pillows. How much do you think Mike Perry versus Jake Paul would have been different if it was bare knuckle? It'd be way different.
I don't know who'd win, but damn.
It is different. It would have been a better fight.
Bare knuckle, dude. Bare knuckle cuts motherfuckers up.
So when you're here, if somebody's hooking you and you have gloves on, this protects you. Of course. Who wants to protect? That's what we want, Brian.
You think the audience is looking for protection? It's not just that, Brian.
It hurts your arms.
It hurts your arms if you get punched in the arms. It fucking kills.
And you break your hand easily, too. Oh, yeah. Look at this. Look at this, boys.
Look at Hamzat. Do you remember the ultimate player crazy move? Remember when Hamzat was fighting Gilbert Burns and as Gilbert's walking out, he's on top of the cage. And then had a fight of his life. Gilbert was like, oh, really?
Bro, I'm number three in the world. Gilbert's no joke. When Gilbert dropped him, I was like, oh, shit. But Hamzat's got heart, dude.
Look at him talking here.
No, you listen to the interview with Brett Okamoto, and he actually sounds, he drops the whole arrogance thing. You're like, oh, this dude's a real one.
Bro, the Kevin Holland fight was bananas. He hit the gas. Like, he drained the gas tank right away. He just dove on him, took him down, forced a bunch of scrambles, and caught him in the dark.
Tough for Kevin Holland, too. Supposed to fight a striker literally, like, hours before he switched it down. Remember? Supposed to be Hamzat and ADS.
$100.
$100. I'm not allowed to bet.
I'm going to go with Chemayev. Okay, $100? Yeah. All right. Pull out your $100 right now. I don't have it. Hold on. I'll Venmo.
I'll Venmo. I don't do Venmo.
Brendan, how much does Brian owe you? The same fucking 2024.
How much does he owe you for all the losses? I don't even know these days.
No, no, no. That's not true. I haven't lost that much. You can go ahead now. You're ahead at this point.
A few thousand, Bubba.
No, I'm down five grand, if you must know.
Do you have a ledger anywhere where you keep track of your losses?
I'm down five thousand. I don't want to talk about it right now.
You don't give it to him, though? You don't give him the five thousand?
Right now, he's temporarily ahead.
But wouldn't you feel better if you gave him the money? We pay each other.
We pay each other. You paid me that one time.
But you owe him money. Wouldn't it be nice if we just give him that money? Wouldn't it feel better? We can't bet during a fight companion? I am not allowed to bet on fights legally.
You can't.
Yeah, the UFC literally, because you know the whole thing with the betting with the trainer. Yeah, you know that story. Because of that, no one's allowed to bet. No one.
But Eddie, you can bet, Brian.
Joe just can't be involved.
I used to bet in the early days of the UFC. I'm old school.
When I first started working for the UFC, especially when I wasn't even getting paid, I'd bet on fights because no one knew what the fuck was going on. There was these guys coming in from Russia. I was like, you don't even know who this is? This is the stupidest odds of all time. Brazilian guys would come in, and the oddsmakers had no idea who the guy was. Yeah, they get told by someone.
Then you see the matchup, and you're like, oh, this guy's going to smoke this guy.
Paulo Filho's actually pretty good.
Aubrey and I were at 84% at one point. Because I had quit gambling on it because I realized this is a little sketchy. I can't affect the outcome, but it's weird if I have money riding on a fighter and people already think I'm biased. I probably don't do that, so I stopped doing it. So I'd give advice to Aubrey. We were 84%. There was a few that I was like, 100%. This one.
All the money on Anderson Silva.
84% is a big deal.
Anderson and his fucking debut. Anderson and his debut. I mean, that was the one.
I was like, bet the house. Wait, when he fought Chris Lieben? Yes.
I was like, bet the house on the Brazilian. Bet the house. So good. This was after Anderson became Anderson in Cage Warriors. Remember? Yeah.
Was it Cage Warriors? Cage Warriors. Yeah. Yeah.
So when he went over there and he fought Lee Murray, and then he fought Tony Fricklin, he hit him with that crazy upward elbow.
Yes, that thing.
Coach told him to stop practicing. He'd been practicing. So he'd make his wife hold a pillow when he'd get home, and he was practicing that, standing there and stepping forward, and he wanted to knock him out with that. He had this in his head that that's what he was going to do. It's so weird. But that's obsession. The Jorge Rivera fight. Remember that? Oh, my God.
My shit. Here it comes. Another day. Another day in the office.
Oh, he's fired up, dude. Are you kidding me? He hasn't fought in a long time.
How long has it been? Let's calm down.
God, it's been at least a year. Who was the last guy he fought? Kevin Holland. And what happened? He submitted him real easy. No, last fight was Kamaru Usman. Oh, that's right. You're right. That was a year ago. That was one year ago. And that was a decision? That was a decision. That was the one where Kamaru was like, I should have picked five rounds.
If it was five, it would have been a tough fight for him.
This is really interesting because it all depends on whether, first of all, it's five rounds. This is a five-round fight, which is huge.
And Whitaker's hard. Like, the first round, he's probably... You gotta remember, Whitaker beat Yoel Romero.
Correct. Who was the all-time scariest wrestler that ever competed in MMA. Correct.
And Whitaker's not one of those guys where if he's down on the cards, he's gonna just pack it up.
But... Romero didn't really take people down. Romero would conserve a lot of his energy to explode on you and smash you. He never took anybody down. Very rarely.
He took down Izzy and didn't hold him down. Took Wyman down. Never used his wrestling.
Hardly. Because it was a conserving energy thing. Because his thing was always exploding on you. Like he did with Wyman. He hit him in that flying knee. And rock hold. Oh, my God. But that flying knee he hit Wyman with. Oh, my God.
There's so much blood on the mats, dog. That was the worst part of fighting. There's blood all over the mats.
When you're doing that circle around the ring and you just got warm blood beneath your fucking feet.
And you're like, boy, what am I doing with my life?
Yeah, I go, what the fuck am I doing?
Damn, there might be COVID in that blood. I hope not.
Maybe monkeypox, even worse. Dude, how quickly did monkeypox die? They tried twice. They tried twice, yes. Dude, the WHO said, yo, worldwide emergency. Oh, yeah. No more butt fucking.
No, it's ass eating.
Is it ass eating?
Ass eating.
How does it get on your dick if it's ass eating? Because you don't just eat ass. Oh, then you get sucked in. You go crazy. Yeah, you don't stop.
I don't know if it's just ass eating. Ass eating is the appetizer, bro. Were they getting monkey pox on their lips? They had monkey pox on their lips?
Bro, four gay dudes ate so much ass they died.
And they were like, this is an emergency. We need to lock America down. Dude. No one gave a fuck about monkey pops.
Can you imagine if four dudes played Russian roulette and died so we all had to wear helmets? That's literally what it's like. It's so stupid. How about stop eating ass once you get a blister, you fucking pig? You fucking green pig.
Blisters all over your fucking nose. Is that what happens? And they recommended washing your ass before someone ate it. Wash your ass before somebody eats it.
That's just wash your ass. That's courtesy. That's courtesy.
Remember that shit when they were on the freeway signs during the scandemic? When it was like, wash your hands, be safe. They were telling us to wash our hands. Save a life six feet.
From a respiratory disease.
Yeah, wash. Do it on the freeway signs. Wash your hands. Yeah.
Ooh, Robert Whitaker. I don't think they're ever going to get us like that again. No.
That was the vaccine. That's the ironic shit. It was like, that's the vaccine. It's never going to happen again. Because they already hit it with us. They vaccinated us against bullshit. Yeah, the next one, no hospitalization, dog. Next one.
Did you see the recent statistics on respirators? No. 90% of COVID patients who went on respirators died from it. We have a family friend that died from it.
And then they didn't let you go to the hospital. They didn't tell you we're never going to bury these motherfuckers and you couldn't have a funeral. Dude. Dude. And people went along with that shit. They were like, okay, no funerals. And what's crazy is some people will still go along with it. And remember when they scared the fuck out of everybody and they put it out on CNN?
The hospitals are running out of body bags.
They had a ticker. They were running out of body bags. They had a ticker because it was good for ratings. So you had a ticker of people dying who were dying of, if you went to the hospital, you had COVID, but you were in a car accident, they counted it as a death from COVID because they got more money from the government. Totally.
Did you see the fucking Rolling Stone article during the height of it all where they said that people were waiting in line to go into the emergency room for gunshot wounds because so many people were overdosing from ivermectin?
Yeah.
Rolling Stone. Not only did they do that, they used a stock photograph of people waiting in line at a hospital, but these fucking morons did a photograph of people with coats on because it was a winter. They're waiting for a flu shot.
So we knew it was fake.
So it was fake, but No one was going to the hospital for ivermectin overdose. Even if you get the shit that they give to horses, it's still ivermectin. If you get penicillin, penicillin's a veterinary medicine too. It doesn't mean you get penicillin, you're taking horse medicine. It's a medicine. It's the same medicine. No one's dying from it, you fucking liars.
Look at the P. Diddy, the whole thing is exposing the music industry, right? And what's the height of the music industry? Rolling Stone? I mean, like, that's... They're just... They used to be the real deal.
It's all corrupt ass shit. It's all corrupt ass shit. They used to be a great magazine, and they got hijacked by a bunch of young morons.
Well, that's what happened to Vice. I had Shane Smith on from Vice. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. He lost everything, dude.
Everything.
Because Vice went bankrupt. He used to be my neighbor.
I used to see him every day. It went bankrupt over a sexual harassment thing, right? No, nay, sir.
The fucking ratings crashed to the floor. They went woke, went broke. It's the best example ever.
Why'd they do that?
Because they have young kids they hire as interns, and they're all coming straight out of college. Yep. They think this is the world. They gave up the wheel. They have been indoctrinated into a cult. It is a real cult.
The New York Times is that way. You know the New York Times, the reason they make money is off their crossword puzzle? And you know that the Washington Post has lost half their readership in the past four years, and they lost $70 million last year? I wonder why. Yeah. And they hired this new guy, and he was like, you guys are all writing this stuff. Nobody's reading your shit.
So we're not going to exist unless something changes. Just double down on crosswords.
Well, people are so mad that they refuse to endorse Kamala Harris for president. Oh yeah, that was the LA Times. No, it was the Washington Post.
And the LA Times. That's weird. Why are they turning their back? It's just one side or the other.
What are they doing? She's going to lose. Well, newspapers have always endorsed a candidate traditionally.
They might not be so sure they want her to win anymore. I mean, who knows what they know? Who knows what all these people behind the scenes... There's a 5D chess going on. It might be as simple as they didn't think she could win. Let's try to get her to win. And if she doesn't win, we'll be fine. Because in four years, we got this. And we're going to do that. We've already set this in place.
We already have all these people moving into swing states. We're going to give them amnesty. There's a lot of wild shit.
How many illegal immigrants in the last four years? Is it 20 million? Millions. 20 million?
Millions. Millions of undocumented people, which is even crazier.
And they're giving them fucking flights. You know, I've seen it personally. I've been on flights. I did a seminar in Tucson. And while I was in Tucson, the Border Patrol agents that trained jujitsu, they were telling me, yo, they're giving them fucking flights. They're giving them fucking debit cards with $1,000 on them. They're giving them an iPhone. I'm like, what? Then I go on the flight.
I go on my flight, and I got immigrants in front of me, like this woman, and she seemed very innocent and legit. She didn't need to be vetted. She'd never been on a plane before in her life, and on her backpack. Here we go.
Part of that idea is so they can track them, too.
Here we go. Do you know that? Part of that is a secret. Shut your mouth.
Oh, they really want to track that. That's not what it is, Brian.
You don't even know what the app is. The app was for shipping. It was originally made for people to come over to this country. Oh, look at him.
He's not going to strike with him.
He doesn't want to strike with him.
Damn, he's got his back already. Whitaker has to get out of the first round. It's going to be tough. The first round is a typhoon. He's got his back already.
But if Hamzat can't get Whitaker here, he's dumping a lot of energy here.
He's fucked. You have no choice, though. You've got to take that back. Right here, you've got to go balls deep into the shit.
If you're a Whitaker fan, you just want this to go past the first round.
He's such a good grappler, man. I'm telling you, his grappling is extraordinary. When you see him with that Olympic gold medalist, you're like, good.
I didn't see him with an Olympic gold medalist.
Dude, he's already on his back, and it's 30 seconds in.
He's winning the scrambles with an Olympic gold medalist. He's nasty. Did you see what he did to Rockhold? Did you see that grappling match? I didn't see it. It's manhandling. Rockhold is a beast. And he's physically a beast. He's a strong motherfucker. For Hamzat to do that to him. I don't know what kind of shape Rockhold was in. I don't know if he had been rolling.
Yeah. Can we do picture and picture over here?
No, no, we can't do that.
Damn, you guys got a billion dollars.
I know, we're looking back and forth. It's ridiculous. Maybe next time we'll get a monitor above that monitor. Maybe that's what we'll do. Maybe that's the move. It's too expensive. Well, we used to have it where we're looking that way, but we wanted to be able to show things on the screen sometimes.
He's been through everything, though. He's such a veteran.
I can get you a good deal on a fucking big screen. You're the best, bro. 400 bucks. Hey, whatever, you know. You don't want to fuck anyone up. Hamzat's still on his back.
You know who's watching this closely is Bo Nickel.
Oh, 100%, right? Yep. Well, Bo Nickel and Hamzat would be a crazy team.
Oh, shit. That's the future. Three minutes left, and he's got both hooks in. Oh, and he's got a body triangle in one second. Almost. Oh, he's out. Let's go. Let's go. Shit! Just like Khabib. Just when you escape Khabib, he doesn't give up and reset. He just takes you down from that position.
And then you lose that little victory that you had. And then that frustrates you.
It's also tiring. Because a lot of people would reset and stand up. Okay, he escaped. He didn't let him. It was like he took him down right there.
Right away. He didn't explode out of there quick enough.
But Whitaker expect this, I bet. He's going to weather this storm. The first round's tough.
You never know, right?
No, you do, though, because Hamza, this is what he does. The first round is a motherfucker.
He's conserving his energy, though.
Yeah, he's not really burning off too much, man. He's riding him here. Just that scramble. And he's winning the round.
100%.
All right, I get a little excited.
Calm down. If he gets under the chin, it's a real problem because he's got the grip of death.
Under the chin, yes, but he was on the fucking front of the face there.
Oh, that's a problem. No, he's out. No, he's still mounted. Half guard. Dude, he's all over him. He's just like, no matter how he escapes, he counters the escapes.
That's the key. He's countering the escapes. It's a rodeo.
It's just beautiful flow. His flow is perfect. He's just riding him everywhere he goes.
You won't be able to do this for five rounds, though.
This is that thousand-yard stare, you know, that guys have when a guy is just overwhelming them in the grappling that is almost scarier than getting beat up on the feet. Like when Enzo Barboza was getting mauled by Khabib, it's like you know.
Oh, look at that.
Oh, he's tapping. He tapped already? Oh, my God. That was weird. That was weird.
Oh, my God. That was weird.
That first round stuff.
It wasn't even around his neck. Hey, here's the thing. You probably give him the title shot, yeah? You finish Whitaker in the first round. You give him the title shot. Right? You give him the title shot. Of course you give him the title shot. This probably fucks up D.E.P. Strickland. Holy shit. I got to see that. You just finish Whitaker. It wasn't even around his neck.
He wasn't even around his neck.
Finish Whitaker.
He tapped quick. Dude. Let's see what happened. It looked like it was around his chin.
I think he got his chin and he was breaking his chin. That's what it looks like.
Yeah, because he just opened his mouth funny.
That fucking hurts.
He just opened his mouth funny. We'll get a look at it in the replay.
I mean, I could be wrong. Maybe it was around his neck. Maybe I'm wrong.
I think it was around his jaw. I think he's breaking his jaw.
I mean you could tap somebody if you have a good enough squeeze around the job, but it takes a few seconds What if it's Look at this shot whoosh from downtown to he shot so far out once he gets a hold of you It's so dangerous. Here we go.
Here we go right here right
See, it's around the mouth. That's around the mouth. He tapped quick. That's around the jaw. That was weird. That's around the jaw. He's about to break his jaw. Usually that takes time. You know what? It was a neck crank. I think he broke his jaw.
You know what? It was like a neck crank. I think that too, but I think he might have broke his jaw. Yeah, as fast as he tapped too.
What was that? Dude, why did he throw his mouthpiece away? Because he wants a fan to have it. Fuck. Now he's got to get a new one and then mold it again.
Who are those two guys? Did they win a contest? A zebra contest? Holy shit. You guys get to beat Cradeside.
Bro, he gets a title shot, I think. You have to.
If you beat Whitaker, the number three contender in the world. Not just that, but run through him. He didn't get touched.
He ran through him and he strangled him in the first round. The real deal.
He might be the guy, dude. He might be that guy. And this is the best time to be a fan. When a guy's coming up, there's nothing better. He has a loss.
And here, think about this, 85, right? So this guy was killing himself to get to 70. At 85, he's the fucking man. My God. Kind of crazy.
Now, here's the question. Can he wrestle DDP or Bo Nickel like that?
DDP's not as good a wrestler. Well, his stand-up is more advanced than Bo's. Way more, yes. Yeah, his stand-up is very dangerous. Homsatz? Yes. Homsatz is very good on the feet. Very good on the feet. Not that Bo's bad on the feet, but Bo needs more seasoning. He hasn't had a real war yet. Homsatz has been through the Gilbert Burns fight. This is crazy, though.
That was super, super impressive. I've never seen a tap that fast. He must have gotten them just right. You know how fucking good Robert Whitaker is?
Yeah, we'll find out. That was a strange tap. He might have hurt his neck in the middle of the scramble or something. He might have hurt his neck when the choke went on him. Jesus. You know, he might have felt something pop in his jaw.
That was worst case scenario for Strickland. He's holding his jaw right now weird, right?
He's holding his mouth weird. Yeah. I think he might have broke his jaw.
Good for Homs.
Going through all that shit. Yeah, man. Look, dude, that guy's a scary-ass motherfucker. Jesus. Scary. That grappling is next level.
I mean, he's giving a gold medalist fits. What are we talking about here? Yeah, he's a beast.
I fucking kill them all.
He's kind of chilled out, though. Let's see.
He's basically saying no one wants to fight with me.
85.
I didn't see him. What do you mean?
In that list.
Oh, was he at the top?
No, that was win streaks.
Oh, no.
DDP's at eight.
Okay, win streaks.
I was like, okay. So he puts that choking quick, man.
Yeah, it's on the jaw. It's definitely not. He hasn't fought Strickland yet? No. No. He might have just fucked his jaw. Neither one has.
I think he had his mouth open and he just, it was intensely uncomfortable.
I mean, you think about the beating he was taking before that, how exhausted he must have been by then. He might have had his mouth open. I care the mouth. Give me a microphone. No, DC's like, nah, man.
Abu Dhabi, thank you. Abu Dhabi, thank you. Thank you, Sheikh. I love you. I love you. I live here now.
He lives in Abu Dhabi now. Canvas 2 is moving around. Yeah, he had to. Is that because of his relationship with that dude? Chesney dictator? Yeah. We don't know.
That's Kadyrov. That guy. The other problem you have with him becoming champ.
There's some crazy stories about that guy online. Big stories. There was a guy who used to fight for the UFC who worked for him and wound up getting killed.
Oh, wow.
Yeah. He became like number two in the country.
If Homsla becomes your champ, if there is an issue we don't know about where he can't fight in the States, it seems there's something going on there. For him to fight for the title, it makes things complicated if he can't do it in Vegas.
Well, the problem is if you want to get six seats for your homies. And your homies are wanted for war crimes.
Well, Kadyrov, Kadyrov.
Yeah, that's the guy.
I mean, he literally, do you know that he had, Kadyrov had a, they gave him an award for being the most sanctioned leader in the world.
Doesn't he like throw gay people off roofs and shit?
Well, there's a lot of things going on. Yeah.
In fact, they were like- How tall are the roofs, though? I mean, we're talking about a single story.
Just teach them a lesson. I know they were going to shoot a movie in Chechnya, and they- What if they're just throwing them into pools, and it's like they were exaggerating?
Or a trampoline. It's like a party. Yeah, it's a joke. Everyone's having fun. They're just uneducated. Straight guys, too, which you don't hear about. Straight guys aren't complaining about it. It's their thing. They get bored. They're in the mountains. Everybody goes off the roof. It's entertainment for them.
It's not good if you're a gentler spirit in Chechnya. Is that Steve Harvey in the house? Sure is. What? By the way, hilarious.
Mustache just fucking strapped. Sergio Ramos? How dare you? Sorry. Well, God.
Killer.
Love him.
I like that he's taking all his time off. Me too.
Please don't jump back in.
Rest that brain, sir. Rest that brain, sir.
One of the greats.
Yeah, and get a full fucking camp.
Yeah, don't take any short notice fights.
I don't know who he's going to fight. Do you know who they have Volkanovski slated to fight? I think it might just be straight for the title. If Max wins, if Max wins, 100% it's Volkanovski. Unless there's a rematch. Wouldn't you think?
If Max wins tonight? Or you go, you owe Lopez Volkanovski.
Do you think Lopez has to win one more?
That's what I'm saying, against Volkanovski.
Oh, I see what you're saying. Lopez versus Volkanovski. It's a dangerous fight. Oh, you got the wine? Who stole it? Get us some glasses, sir.
You know what I'm saying, though, Joe? For Lopez, he needs one more, I think, before he gets to the big show. So you give him Volkanovski. You beat him, now we're cooking with fire.
Yeah, no, I think so. But if I was Volkanovski, I'd say, nah, title fight.
Yes, he's a no-sir.
Yeah, but he's 36 years old. Maybe 37 by now. He earned the title fight. He was one of the greatest featherweights, if not the greatest of all time.
And he took short notice fights for them.
Yeah, the big one, the Makachev fight. Never should have taken that. And that first one, I thought... It was a good fight. It was a good fight.
I think we were biased because he was the smaller guy.
No, but the first fight was a good fight.
It was a really good fight. I'm saying... He dropped him. I walked away from it. I thought he won. I thought he won too. But then were we biased because it's like that David Goliath, you know what I'm saying?
Possibly. It was a very close fight, let's say that. Yes. But then the rematch, when he gets KO'd like that on 10 days notice, you can't do that, man. No. You can't take that. I mean, I love the fact that he tried, but you can't do that. Well, think about it.
He was ranked, what did they have, number one pound for pound?
He loses that and then loses the next one. He had been drinking and partying and living the life, eating burgers and shit. Then all of a sudden they're like, hey, you got 10 days to lose 40 pounds.
Against Makachev. Fuck.
Wine, I get it. Yeah, calm down now. Settle down. Calm down for us.
Well, I ordered it. We couldn't find it.
Somebody stole our wine. Jeff had to go hunt them down.
This is the best wine.
Dude, what do you think about this, Brian?
What?
You're the wizard. What? Topirio or Max Holloway?
I got Max. How do you have him winning? Well, I think that Toperio wins when he gets you against the fence. He's amazing. He's great. I just think that Max is not going to get against the fence. And I think that Max has never been put... He's been put down once. And I think he's a bigger guy. And I think he's just as good a boxer. I really do. Interesting. And that's a big deal.
Because very few people are as good as Toperio. Now, I might be wrong.
I also think the narrative on Toperio being like this crazy knockout artist like in Alex Pereira, his background is... grappling. You know what I'm saying? Don't get me wrong, the motherfucker can crack. But when it comes to stand-up, I would edge Max Holloway.
Interesting. As far as like pure striker. Right, but you saw what he did to Josh Emmett, right? He just took away all Josh Emmett's weapons and started beating his ass.
Max Holloway, now I love Josh Emmett, but Max Holloway, different animal.
But the thing about Josh Emmett, he comes with that nuclear option, dude. He stayed, bro. What he did to Bryce was crazy. He's also shorter, though. Mac's a lot taller.
Reach is the same.
Yeah, he's as wide as he is tall. Josh Emmett's a fucking tank, man. He might be the scariest one-punch guy in the sport. That was bad. He was twitching and shit out cold. And they were trying to stand him up. I'm like, do not stand him up. Leave that man. Get some medics in there. That was a bad one. When you see the guys twitching.
Just let him chill.
Yeah, man.
Now, Dana said they're going to go to Barcelona or Spain next year.
He's not drinking, you son of a bitch.
Just taste it. No, I'm good. Hey, you know what? He's not drinking.
He's not drinking, you fucking peer pressure.
You know what? It could be piss, and I wouldn't know, Brian.
Really?
I don't know. I don't know, Brian.
Watch it. It'll breathe. It'll breathe.
Did you guys ever, when you were talking with Trump and RFK Jr., did the fluoride in the water ever come up?
It's come up with RFK. It's come up with a bunch of people, Callie and Casey Means.
What do we got to do to get the fluoride out of the fucking water? I know certain counties in the United States, they've petitioned. There's something you could do. I think if everybody knew what exactly to do to get fluoride out of the fucking water.
That's one of RFK's things he wants to do.
What is going on? How is fluoride still in the water and everybody's cool with it?
Explain to the listeners why is fluoride so bad. I want to say listeners, me.
Joe? It's a neurotoxin. It's dangerous. They say it helps your teeth. It's stupid. What helps your teeth is don't eat sugar, brush your teeth. That's what helps your teeth. There's very little evidence, and I bet that evidence is horseshit, but here's the thing. It comes with the consequences of factual data that shows that high fluoride rates in waters lead to lower IQs in kids.
That's proven science. Really? Yes, it's dangerous stuff.
There's a reason why they're putting fluoride. They're opening up sacks of fluoride and putting it in the water. And they're saying it's to keep our teeth clean.
No, so what I heard is that fluoride was discovered because in Colorado there were pockets of kids and people that didn't have cavities. And they found that it was the fluoride in the water.
Yeah, we also found toothbrushes. Listen, you don't need to use fucking fluoride.
That's some retard shit. If fluoride was good for your teeth, bottled water would say, now with fluoride. How come it doesn't say that? How come it doesn't say that? I need to know the evidence.
You guys aren't dentists. They experimented during the Nazis. The Nazis experimented with fluoride. There was straight Illuminati.
So all the dentists are wrong and you guys are right? Yes. They're all. Oh, my God. COVID is real. COVID is real. COVID is real. All the doctors said it was real. COVID is real.
COVID vaccine is legit. COVID vaccine is legit.
I don't know. Everyone. You know. Oh, my God. I don't know. But you're pissing me off. Well, the vaccine probably. Did you take the vaccine? No. Why not? But I. Well, I just. Because I got it. Because I got it. Just shut the fuck up. All the doctors said take the vaccine. So you guys are vaccinologists and you're tooth experts. Oh, my God. Brian, Brian, Brian. You're listening in the sky?
Listen, I've talked to many, many people that have said the dangers of fluoride are real and that in the levels that they're in the water, they're probably not going to make you stupider. But there's no reason for it to be there in the first place. And it is a toxin.
Really? But they put it in toothpaste.
It shouldn't be in toothpaste either. It's all erroneous information. It's the same thing that led people to say that margarine is better for you than butter. It's bullshit bias studies that are conducted by people who have a vested interest financially in pushing. How many people are selling fluoride to put it in the water? It's not fluoride. They have to get it somewhere.
Someone's in a fluoride business. They've got deals. These people have been saying for their entire careers, you should have fluoride. You'd have to correct so much to get fluoride out of the water and to get people to stop using fluoride even for toothpaste. I use Tom's of Maine. It's natural toothpaste. It doesn't have any fluoride in it.
Yeah, there's so many brands of toothpaste that say fluoride-free. Why would they say fluoride-free? Why?
Brian, you don't know what you're talking about. You really don't.
I never said anything. I'm just asking questions.
You're going to argue with him, but you really don't know about fluoride.
I'm not asking you questions. You guys are saying that fluoride is bad. No, no, you're saying all these people are experts. You're still on fluoride.
I can't even believe it. You're appealing to authority, right? But the reality is there's actual data. There's scientific data that these people have conveniently ignored that shows that fluoride that they've been recommending for decades is not good for you.
That's why there's toothpaste that says fluoride-free. Otherwise, that would kill their company.
That would be the dumbest toothpaste ever. Yeah, that would kill their company. So you're saying that the dentists tell you to use fluoride toothpaste because they've been told.
They're retarded.
Because they're retarded. My dentist does not tell me to use fluoride toothpaste.
My dentist does not tell me to use fluoride toothpaste. He doesn't? No. My dentist knows about fluoride and water, too, and he doesn't think it's a good thing.
Doctors that recommend the COVID vaccine, are they retarded or are they smart?
Okay. I mean, I don't know.
We're traveling down too many different side roads. I think if you're an old person. We're traveling down too many different side roads. But if you want to see it, Jamie, pull up an article that shows that high fluoride rates in water leads to lower IQs in kids.
And it just seems perfect for the controllers.
I don't know if it's a controller thing. I think it's a money thing. I think they've been selling it as... Because I think they used to think that it did help you with tooth decay. And I think maybe someone scammed it and they started selling it to people to put it in the water. We all need it. And then you have a business. It's called Big Fluoride.
And Big Fluoride is providing all the fucking fluoride that's in your water. And it's not necessary. And first of all, not to drink it and eat it and cook with it. That's fucking crazy. And if you needed fluoride just for toothpaste... You use fluoride toothpaste and you spit that shit out and rinse your mouth because it's fucking dangerous.
Look at that.
NTP reports suggested IQ reductions in the range of two to five points in children with higher fluoride exposure. Jesus. Yeah. The more you know. This should be interpreted cautiously. It's fucking garbage. There's no reason for it to be there. Don't get me started on root canals. Oh, that's a new thing.
That's a whole other thing. Is it real that the Nazis put it in the water, too?
100%.
98%.
Sure. Did that take it? Jamie, find out fluoride Nazis.
Was it discovered in the United States? If the Nazis put it in the water, then you know what it's for. Then you know why we're doing it.
They did a bunch of experiments to medicate people. They were giving people crystal meth. They had a type of crystal meth you would buy in the store. Amphetamines, right? Yeah. Yeah, and it made productivity. Everybody was kicking ass. But we used that for our pilots, too. That's why they had BMW. Why do you think they had Audi? Why do you think they had Porsche?
Why do they have these incredible engineers?
Because these fucking engineers were jacked up on meth going, let's fucking put these gears together and make it fast as fuck. The Nuremberg and all that's Hitler's. That's all Hitler's scientists.
Yeah, but I think fluoride was discovered in Colorado.
Fluoride is great. No, listen, fluoride's been around for a long time, Brian, but the idea of pouring it into your fucking water is relatively new in human history.
And then people think, oh, I don't drink tap water, so I'm free of fluoride. No, what about your ice? You put ice in your drinks? What about the beverages? You think these companies that make beverages like soda?
There's no evidence of the Nazi Party. Fluoride was first used by the Nazis to keep prisoners docile and submissive. Fun fact. Our verdict, there's no evidence of the Nazi Party. Now, there's got to be someone that thinks that fluoride was used by the Nazis. That's Google, though. I don't know.
It just says it's a claim. I don't even know where someone's saying it. It's a claim.
Yeah, but the problem with that is you're connecting fluoride, which is ubiquitously used in drinking water.
Oh, I love that.
Let's find... Okay, Jesse Ventura says the Nazis pioneered the use of fluoride. That's all I need to see. We're forever incorporating Nazi things in our lives. Fluoride is in the water. Okay. This is Tampa Bay Times. Communist conspiracy, genuine threat. Hold on, I'll go back to that one. State of the planet. Fluoride in water. Communist conspiracy. Genuine threat.
Fluoride, certainly nothing to do with your teeth. Fluoride in water was used by the Nazis on the Jews. I mean... I mean what? Does that make sense? This is Google! Google just finds websites that could be full of shit.
All I did was type in three words and it's finding articles where those three words exist. Got it.
Google is not going to tell you what's true or what's not true. They're going to show you articles. But the bottom line is if fluoride is being used everywhere, you'd probably have the same sort of deal as like try finding vaccine side effects from the COVID-19 vaccine and how dangerous they are. Go Google.
You'll find a bunch of things about how it's a myth and it's bullshit and it's a small amount. More people get myocarditis from COVID. You'll find a bunch of misinformation, disproven stuff because of money.
Okay, for both of you, here's my question. How many COVID-19 vaccines do they give out? Like 5 billion or something? A lot. So out of 5 billion, most of those people are fine, right? No. We don't know.
5 billion? In my family alone? We have some damage. My uncle died of a heart attack. That's anecdotal. Who's telling you that it's okay?
I can't believe you're defending the fucking vaccine. Let's kill him. I'm blown away. I'm blown away. I'm fucking blown away. But I'm not surprised, though. I am. He's been texting his friend at Universal.
They're working on a deal.
All I'm asking you is, out of 5 billion vaccines, that's a pretty big control group. And so is fluoride. What about heart disease in the future? Hold on, Brian.
Hold on, Brian. Do you know that all-cause mortality is up 40% in some age groups?
That doesn't matter to Brian. I don't know that, and I don't know that. That's a fact.
Now you know. You should know that. So you're saying that's from the vaccine. It could be from a lot of things. But one thing that happened during that time was they experimented on a new medicine. And that new medicine has been proven to both be ineffective and to be greatly exaggerated in what it could or couldn't do.
Meaning that the test that they did didn't even show it could do what they were saying it did. So there was a lot of deception going on. Then there was a lot of coercion. And then there's an enormous amount of money gets exchanged.
I understand all of that, and I agree with all of that.
40%.
Take in the giant jump in miscarriages, the giant jump in infertility rates in both men and women, the giant jump in all sorts of autoimmune conditions that people got after they got vaccinated.
Could be a lot of things, though, right?
The giant jump in strokes and heart. It could be this one thing.
You're like a defense attorney. You're like a defense attorney for the mob. Or it could be the toxic soup of so many of these different things.
But it automatically ticks in around 2020. On the streets, you'd be dead.
On the streets, you'd be dead. They would kill you. Hold on, hold on. They would kill you on the streets. There's also a lot more drinking. There's also a lot more shit. What do you mean? Because it's going on now.
People are dying now, Brian. Brian, you would be dead on the streets.
We're out of the pandemic. Not as much exercise, eating, overeating. No, no, no.
It's now, B. Not enough, Brian.
Not enough.
A lot of them aren't even obese. Worldwide, you're saying. A lot of them aren't even obese. You saw those soccer players dropping dead. 40%.
vaccinated soccer players having heart attacks super normal fittest people on earth just having fucking strokes in the middle of a field but for the most high school kids but the vast majority don't yes a lot of people got injured brian a lot of people i don't know let's say it's only one percent let's say it's only one percent even like is it one percent no it's not very high hey b here's what injury we don't know
They're not giving us the complete results. We don't know how high it is.
Well, that's a good point. But we know it's up 40%. Hold on. You don't know, right? That's what I'm saying. You guys are throwing a lot of these statistics around. No, the one thing we do know is it's up 40%.
I was thinking I'm going to jail if he was my defense attorney. I'd be like, I'm going to jail.
No, seriously, if I was going to jail and I was guilty, I would hire this motherfucker.
So you think the COVID vaccine was straight up killing people and very dangerous? I think it was a scam to make money.
At the least, it was ineffective. And at the worst, the problem is it didn't stay local. Meaning when they injected into the muscle, they weren't aspirating for the most part. They didn't even aspirate on fucking Biden on television. They just plunged that thing in. Right.
If you talk to doctors, they say when you do stuff like that and you inject someone with a vaccine, you are supposed to aspirate to make sure that you're not in a blood vessel. So you pull back to see if you find blood. And if you do, you have to reinsert somewhere else. So you're not going to shoot it right into a blood vessel.
When it goes into a blood vessel, your body recognizes it as like an intruder and your immune system reacts. And if it gets to your heart, it creates myocarditis because your heart doesn't heal, which is why you don't get heart cancer.
So here's what I was saying. Your liver heals. Your heart just scars up. Eddie, I know a lot of people that got the vaccine. A lot. Because I live in California. So I know the vast majority. And the vast majority of people that I know, just anecdotally, but if you just look at a cross-section, seem to be walking around fine. Did they get COVID? I don't know. Probably. I bet they did.
Because I know somebody who got the booster and she's had COVID five times.
So it doesn't work. Not only that, there's a direct correlation between the amount of boosters you get and the frequency in which you get COVID. That could be a healthy user bias thing where you have a bunch of unhealthy people that are getting jabbed up as much as possible. And they were going to get COVID anyway.
That's what I'm saying. It certainly doesn't work. Everybody I know knows multiple people that got fucked up from the vaccine. You don't know anybody that got fucked up from the vaccine?
It doesn't mean anything.
It's just anecdotal.
It doesn't mean anything. I think people in Hollywood keep their fucking mouth shut. They don't get kicked out of the cold.
Or you wouldn't know, too, right? You wouldn't know. If you got COVID. I know. I know from my family. COVID also fucks with your heart and things, too. So you wouldn't know necessarily. You don't think COVID was just the flu? No, I think COVID killed a lot of old people and heavy people. Did the flu do that? No, it was worse than the flu. It was worse than the flu.
My friend who's a doctor said to me, he goes, I'd estimate it's about 50% worse than a bad flu. It was just the flu.
They hijacked the flu. It was all bullshit.
Eddie, if you're really old. It was all bullshit. They hijacked the flu. Let's definitely include the flu in Along the Ride.
They hijacked it.
The flu definitely got included in Along the Ride.
That's how they do it. They do it in turn all the time. They take the, and they go, oh, there's a new thing. What are the symptoms? You have a runny nose. You have a fever. I'm like, isn't that the flu?
Oh, no, but it's different. Here it is, boys. First defense of the title.
I think the bottom line is it was handled incorrectly.
That's definitely not the bottom line. It was fucking made in a lab. Handled incorrectly.
There's a lot of bottom lines. It was actually funded by the NIH. The crisis was handled incorrectly.
It wasn't just handled incorrectly. It was the greatest distribution of wealth that the fucking world has ever seen.
It was on purpose. There was no incorrect shit. They knew exactly what they did.
Speaking of corrupt bullshit, do you see Elon Musk might buy CNN? That would be hilarious.
Guess what, boys? I'm going to be on CNN.
When? Can you imagine? Oh, you mean?
I'll ask him for a job. Yeah. He'll hook me up. Can I be a field journalist? Who's that? That's Ilya's wife. Damn. Damn. I'll do the JRE Weekly Report.
Dude, here we go.
We talk about the actual news of the world.
This is what I learned this week. Can't have Ryan on there. No. No, come on. Let me guess now. Brian is going to replace Anderson Cooper. Because I asked questions. You've got to ask. It's perfect.
It would be perfect.
CIA ties. Come on, bro. Don't make me a CIA plan. I'm just asking questions. You are definitely a CIA plan. I'm asking questions. I know about them. I can't even ask questions among my friends. Okay, okay, okay. Let's watch this because this is heavy. Is Max drawn? Was this too much of a cut for him? That's what I want to say.
Well, he hasn't cut in a couple years.
Yeah, it's a big weight.
But he has a really good nutritionist.
He's like, come sit down. Let's go. No, don't stand there. Fuck that. That's it. Like the bull, the matador. Come on.
Because Ilya said he was going to do that in the beginning. He was going to point to the ground. He's like, yo, bro. He goes, this is not the DMF, the dumbest motherfucker.
Who said that?
Max. There you go.
Ilya's a confident dude, so he rubs people the wrong way. But you got to be pretty fucking arrogant to get to his level. Oh, yeah, man.
This is an interesting fight. Max is a real good tactician.
How about the shorts? Both custom shorts.
Nice.
Max got the booster, too.
No, he didn't. No. Front kick to the body, high kick.
No UFC fighter got the best.
Were they not allowed? Did they have to get it? No. Oh, no, Brian. Lionheart did.
Lionheart did. He suffered blood clots from it. Yeah. Anthony Smith talked about it. And he thinks he lost a family member to it, too. My mom got blood clots from it. Oh, low kick. Max looks good. Staying on the outside, using the reach.
The controversial thing about the COVID is it's a foodborne illness.
I think they might have collided heads. What?
That's the controversial thing. Oh, oh, oh. Toporia caught him. I didn't hear you, Brian. I said some people would call it a foodborne illness because if you were obese, COVID killed you, right?
That's not what they would call foodborne illness, Brian.
I'm just saying. Foodborne illness is a disease. What did I tell you about grappling? Oh, shit.
What? You're going to get some grappling here. Bro. That's his bread and butter. Very nice. I almost forgot. Very nice.
He's been studying with Chemayev. He's from Georgia. He's from Georgia originally, right?
He was born in Georgia but grew up in Spain. Okay. After that fucking fight, man.
I can't believe Hamza did that. He's so good. Whitaker dislocated his jaw.
Oh, Jesus.
Oh, yeah.
So there it is. That's what it was.
Yeah, they confirmed that he dislocated his jaw. Oh, my God.
That makes sense. With the choke. Yes. How do they put that back in? Well, it's probably ripped up.
Or maybe it was already dislocated, and then when he put the choke in, he was like, that's what I think.
Could have caught him. Oh! Dude, Chapoy is such a good boxer. Shit.
He's so lethal, too.
Oh, my God.
That dude has no wasted movement. Those punches come so clean.
And everything's heavy, Tom. Everything's heavy. Max is more of a volume guy.
Throws his whole body in that, man. Oh, nice low kick. If Max makes one mistake, it's a problem. Heavy low kick. Fuck. Can I change my... Can I change my... No, you don't want to do that. Guys... How much is this? A hundred bucks? A hundred bucks? Yeah, let me just be... No, no, no. Don't do that. Guys, you're coming down on me, man.
You know what you should do? You should get on one of them apps that lets you bet during the fight. You know, guys go up and go, you can bet like from the second round on.
Oh, shit. No, no, get out of there. Get out of there. That would be a good way to make money, man. Max, don't let him get you.
It's not weak, Brian. It's a smart way to make money. When you know for a fact someone's teed up. Yeah, guys do it all the time. And you get a three to one on the money.
Dude, he's chopping his leg, dude. Free money. Yeah, you're right. He's chopping his leg.
Brian, do you feel like you'd be better on Companion with Don Lemon and Amson Cooper? 100%. Do you feel like you fit more in with them?
Do you feel like an outcast?
Guys, I'm just asking questions.
Guys, I'm just asking questions about my friends in private. I'm just asking about the COVID vaccine.
I just feel like you'd fit in with them better.
There's a big control group. I'm just wondering.
You should get some boosters, Todd.
Right now? Get some fucking booster. I haven't even had the vaccine. Get a goddamn booster.
Bro, I went to see Beetlejuice. You like this wine, right, bub? I went to see Beetlejuice in the middle of the fucking previews.
Beetlejuice from Howard Stern? No. Where's he come from? The movie. Beetlejuice 2.
Beetlejuice 2, the new one. It was great. It was great. It was good?
Yeah. Was it woke?
No, no, no. It was fun. It was fun. It was really good. But the point is, they have, what's that guy's name? John Legend? Was it woke? He does a fucking COVID commercial.
Yeah.
Which shows his band-aids, playing piano.
Nothing gay.
Yeah, there's nothing gay. He was at a ditty party.
100%.
Or you want that money. Or you just trusted the government. Didn't they say that they paid Travis Kelty like $20 million? Yeah, I was making fun of him.
Max just answered back. I'm back on the Max train. Fuck you guys. Let's go, Max. Dude, I told you. Max is good. You guys sleep on Holloway, both you guys. You fucking don't know anything. This guy, look at that.
He's got a good reach, man.
Yes, he totally. That reach advantage is nice. He's Max Holloway.
He's blessed. He's got a little bit of blood coming out of his nose.
It's all right. It's all right. It's been here before.
Yeah, Topura's nose is pretty red, too.
Look at this. That's a nice jab. Oh, good hook. Look at this. Oh, nice. Look at this. Yeah, everybody wants to sleep on Max. Unbelievable. Put respect on his name. He's still Max Holloway, bro. And by the way, by the way, he stands right in the middle of the... You're not getting him against the camera.
Not just that, it's also the five-round thing. Max has been to these wars with Volkanovski. All Max does is fight five.
Oh, left hook, you heard him. You heard him with that left hook. Where's that fucking app?
Is Teporia a black belt? Yes. I want to see that drop. That's a good question.
Okay.
Good round.
I thought they were standing them up. Good round.
Holy fuck. Let's see. So don't you think they should start right back where they just ended?
I get your argument, but no.
100%.
I don't like it. It's one fight. It's not five fights. Max didn't stand up.
He stood up. But it's three rounds.
So you restart the round. Five.
It's a good question. Five rounds.
It's fair.
There it is. Jorge and Augustin Clement.
What is that?
Spanish shit.
Okay.
Okay.
Now let's see some of this highlight stuff.
I want to see that left hook. Me too. Here's the shot.
Took him down, right?
There you go. Yep. Boom.
100%.
Boom. A grazing shot there.
There was one good left hook that dropped. That was a hard low kick. Yeah, it was.
Look at this. Boom. Good elbow. Evan gets clipped. Max will answer back. Oh, he slipped. Oh, he just slipped. It's not a knockdown. Will they call that a knockdown, though? No.
It's a takedown. It's a takedown. It's a takedown. It was a slip. Oh, he slipped. Well, that's better because I thought he got rocked.
Me too. Yep. But takedown kind of counts as a knockdown a little bit.
You're not allowed IVs, right?
At the end of a round?
It's something.
He's still on his back. It means a lot.
He certainly won the round.
Are you allowed IVs in Saudi Arabia right now? No.
Nowhere in the UFC.
Nowhere.
I think that's stupid. I think, well, you can mask steroids, unfortunately. Yeah, you could flush it out of your system, and then you take a urine test, and it doesn't show up at all.
Remember all that news about Mokachev getting one? Remember all that leaked shit?
Yeah, but that wasn't real. There's photos of him before that. Yeah, that was not what that was from.
Dude, this is going to be... They were claiming that they knew the lady who gave it to him.
I heard from what I talked to the UFC guys, that was bullshit. They could be wrong. I don't know.
Fake news, though.
But what I heard from the inside was that it was bullshit. He had that bruise on his arm from before.
Max is a damn good boxer.
Like, if someone squeezes your fucking arm, you can get a bruise there, too. It looks a lot like an injection. Yeah.
Dude.
100%.
It's healthier. I don't think they should cut weight, but that's another story. You boys are just trying to change the UFC entirely. I am.
I'm trying to get rid of the cage. What would you limit to? God damn it. Get rid of the cage.
No gloves and restart in between rounds.
Why do you have gloves on your hands, but you don't have anything on your elbows and your shins? Exactly. Because they've got to grapple.
Common sense. Common sense.
No, just keep it the way it is. It's fucking great. Oh, beautiful low kick. Ilya's got a heavy low kick. Oh, one, two.
Keep the fluoride in the water, too. Yes. Left hook. Left hook by Ilya.
Keep the fluoride in the water and keep the UFC the way it is.
Keep them boosters coming in.
Are you for boosters? I don't know anything about them. I don't know. You love boosters. No. I just know that my parents are 85. They love them.
Just shut the fuck up. Right hand. Right hand by Ilya. Huh? Oh, another heavy low kick. Oh, he's walked into a jab. It's the differences in the firepower. When Ilya hits him, it's fucking dangerous. Every shot is like a thudding shot. Although over five rounds. Oh, yeah, man. Listen, the thing about Max is he can keep this going. Conserves his energy. Well, he's a champion.
He knows how to really fight a war in five rounds and have enough gas to sprint at the end. He knows where he's at.
Oh, he got stomped. He got stung. That left hook was hard. Oh, man. It's going to be tough on Max. He's getting that leg chopped up. Topir's getting his timing. It's going to be tough for Max. And Max is not getting it. No.
There's a good jab. Oh, he hit with a right hand.
Also, Max isn't getting his respect, so he's sitting down on shit now, too.
Well, I think Max is a little hurt right now.
I think that's part of it. They're getting serial. It's not affecting Toperia, though. Toperia's down to exchange. He's still in there, man.
Damn.
Oh, Tuporio's too good.
No, Tuporio's just... Damn, he's so crisp.
He felt this power, went, all right, let's ride.
Such a good boxer. He's such a good boxer.
He's so crisp.
Yes, but he's getting caught. He just got caught again. Tuporio just got caught again.
Hey, man, this is still a fight.
It's a fucking fight.
And it's Max Holloway. He finds a way, man.
There's a good left hook. 40 to 27 headshots in favor of Max. That's...
Because he's touching him. Yeah, but significant strikes. The difference is the impact of the other shots. You can't really count. You look at the momentum of a fight, and Max is grazing him. He's hitting him with shots.
But you can't dictate the guy winning based on volume. When Tepori is hitting him, he's hurting him.
But Max is mixing it up well. I like how he's throwing these kicks in now. But this has been grueling.
Two great fighters. My God.
This is the top of the heap, man.
Fighting at his best. This is such a good division.
100%.
32?
But in fight years, he's 77. I wonder if it's having an impact.
Look at this. Oh, nice one, too. Dude, God, that hurts.
Nice job.
Look at this.
See, this is my... Oh, fuck.
God, he was going for broke.
Ilya comes in, though. They're terrifying. One of those things clips you. It's la-la land. One minute to go. Here we go. That stomp to the thigh is good. Ilya just has to get Max going backwards.
It's tough to do. Remember if Benson Henderson would punch you in the thigh? Remember that?
Oh, yeah. He's the first calf kicker.
God, was he?
Yeah, Benson Henderson was the first guy that was kicking the shit out of people's calves.
Were calf kicks normal in Muay Thai? No, not really, man.
They're using them more now because of MMA. That's so interesting.
You don't see the knee stomp as much anymore. I mean, I guess John hasn't been active, but you don't see it as much.
Look at this. Look at this. Well, Khalil.
Oh, Christ. That's got to hurt.
Khalil Rountree had the scariest against Modestus.
Oh, he just did one. Max is taking punishment in his fucking leg, though.
He's not checking those goddamn kicks. Oh, right hand. That was a good right hand.
Jesus Christ. I'd rather get the vaccine, guys. Am I right?
I think you already did.
Eddie, man. Eddie doesn't fuck around.
I didn't think you got it just to stay with your agency or something.
I didn't get anything. I'm shocked you didn't get anything. I would guess and say, what do you think Brian Callen got? I would say he got all the boosters. You think I'm status quo? Totally.
The thing is, he got COVID before there was a vaccine.
I will listen. I'm more apt to listen to a doctor, though, typically, right? Than us? Than Eddie Bravo? Wow.
You piece of shit.
You're a bad friend. You know how many hours I spent on YouTube? You don't even know. You don't even know.
You went to YouTube University. Basically a PhD. Yep.
I went to Roku University. You have talked to a lot of scientists, Joe.
I definitely have.
A lot. So, you know, I check in with you.
And Dr. Malone. Yeah, I've talked to the guy who invented mRNA technology. But that is a nightmare. Nine patents.
No, I listened to that.
That guy, if you listen to that guy, the guy who invented it, you're like, oh, you're not a scientist.
You're not a doctor. The guy who is, who invented it. But you're still coming at me with, oh, you don't know shit. But Dr. Malone.
Dr. Malone had a terrible cardiac event after the vaccine. And that's when he went bad on it.
I listened to his body. But no, you keep reading. But you're not a doctor. You keep reading that.
You're not a doctor. He had Malone on twice. And the other guy, what's the other guy's name? Peter McCullough. He doesn't matter?
No, he matters. Eddie, you're not a doctor. No, I'm with you. I just like to ask questions.
On the streets, you'd be dead.
You'd be dead on the streets.
They call him street smart in jail. Whenever he gets put in the county, oh, nice left hander.
But you're not a doctor. But you know, isn't it funny how we're all in an echo chamber in our own way? And he's like, how does anybody believe? Well, a lot of people. Most people believe in the vaccine. I disagree with that. You know what I'm saying, though?
I disagree with that.
That's what I'm saying. Guys, guys, guys, shut the fuck up about the vaccines.
Let's watch the fight. Let's watch the fight. Let's watch the fight. This is boring.
Yeah, this is a great fight. It is.
Sorry, guys.
This fight is too good.
The thing is, Max just doesn't have the pop at 45. I think that even he does at 55.
That's why I want him at 55. Volume, though. Volume. But I don't know if they were going to give him a title shot.
Well, I think these guys that drain themselves, there's a point of diminishing returns. Look at this. He's catching him. He's still a warrior.
Oh, he's a warrior. And he's great. All that shit that Brendan said, people don't do. I know. He's doing like a motherfucker.
And he's doing it well. John Jones. He's leaping in.
Yep.
I think he's coming around this third round.
Oh, shit. Oh, my goodness. He's getting rocked. Oh, that body shot.
Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. Dude, DePoy throwing some heat. Max will not let you pin him against a cage. And I like how he gets him hurt and goes to the body. He's Spanish. What is he again? Yeah, Georgian, but grew up in Spain.
Oh, he dropped him with a left hook. That's it. Oh, Jesus.
Oh, he's out.
That's it. Oh, my goodness. He's a bad motherfucker. He's a bad motherfucker.
Georgian from Russia? Are you talking about Russia?
That's the first fucking time. So he's Russian, but he grew up in Spain. Bro, the first guy to put away Max Holloway. Yo, he's out. He's on his back. That's how that ends. That's how that ends. He hits too hard. That's how good that guy is. Fuck. That's how good that guy is.
That's 45. I'll tell you what. That's 45. The fraud meter. They're not supposed to be that much power at 45. I think it happens at 55.
The fraud meter's gone cold. Bro, that guy is so legit.
I think it happens even at 55.
To do that to Max? Wait, you think what happens at 55?
I think that same thing happens to Max at 55. Well, I wonder if Max is significantly drained at 45. You think DePore could go up to 55? Who's the champion right now? No, no, he's going to have trouble with that. Oh, you think he can fuck with that? Have they fought before? He wants to.
Have they fought before? No, no. Ilya's been 45 his whole career except the Jai Herbert fight. Took that on short notice and knocked out Jai Herbert. God damn. Ilya's a beast, man. He's the fucking 100% real deal.
He says he's going to win this one and then go to 55. He said that?
Yeah. But he's perfect for 45.
He's perfect. He's built for 45.
These guys want to jump around.
But wouldn't you like to see him against Islam? I would. That would be amazing. That's the super fight.
100% it would be amazing. The guy's a beast.
It's a $100 million fight right there.
He's so fucking good, man. He's kissing Steve Harvey. Unbelievable.
Steve Harvey's like, I'm here. I mean, he's doing comedy and shit. Steve Harvey had no idea who that guy was. He's doing comedy in front of Muslims. This is crazy, man.
Man, this is the first time for Max. Wow. No shame. He was doing great, but fuck.
Off the top of your head, what kind of hack jokes can you tell in front of a Muslim crowd? Good luck.
Do you have anything?
You got something? I do, but I'm not going to say it. Oh, three guys walking through a bar, a Muslim, a Jew, and something. You've got to have something. Schultz did stand up. What would you do? If you got thrown onto the stage, would you do your Scottish shit? I don't know. Do your Scottish shit. I don't know. We missed something.
We missed something. They were talking to each other.
It was just respect. Give him respect. Give him love.
Give him a legend of respect. Let's see it again. Let's see it again. Here it is. Okay.
This is the end.
Moved his arm out of the way. Boom.
That's it right there. Right hand. Flash right there. That was it. That was it.
Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness.
Did he recover from that?
No. No.
That's really impossible.
This was later?
Yeah, look at this.
Oh, damn.
That left hook was ferocious. That was it. That was it. This is it. Look at this impact.
Oh, shit.
Bro.
He does that to everybody.
His left hook is fucking... He does it to everybody. How many left hook KOs has he had?
He has right hand KOs, too. Jai Herbert was a right hand. Volkanovski was a right hand.
The left hook's so hot right now. They're both so good.
They're both... And then it was just hammer fist right there.
His boxing is fucking ferocious. I think his boxing was the best thing he did. Holy shit.
I think he literally is the best boxer in the UFC.
And you would know. Do those hammer fists. Tabori is a beast, man. The left hook you were showing me. I was talking about how I never had a left hook ever. I had zero power with my left hook. And I had this bag, this water, heavy bag in front of my house that I would hit once a day. I go, I'm going to develop a left hook. And then he showed me some technique.
Opened you up a little bit, right? Opened your whole world.
Dude, he showed me some shit. He showed me the hip rotation.
It's all in the hips, Bubba. It's all in the hips. I don't teach a lot of people that. You got to take my workshop.
Steven Seagal over here.
I'm very, very, I'm very restrictive in who I teach that to. You've earned it. You've earned it. And I give that to you. It's my gift. But Joe's not going to learn it.
Can you explain the details of the left hook and the Scottish accent?
I work from my root chakra. My root chakra. And my ten...
know that that's what I do I take a small centipede step and you will drop Ilya Taboria is my student he learned in Scotland and I thought I took a small step Ilya good boy good great job Max is going to take a real head in you're my best student I hug me now how do you feel He's so stupid.
55.
Go back up to 55. I would say go back up to 55.
Joe, you know what I do with him? You know what I do? Conor McGregor.
Oh, you'll knock Conor out. At 55 or what? I think Conor must have played at 70.
All right, 70.
I bet Max would do it. Cormier's pimp suit is beautiful.
He looks like Steve Harvey.
Yes, he does.
Is that pink technically or maroon? That's a burgundy.
That's a burgundy like this one. That's not pink.
Hold on. Let's hear who he calls out. You know how much confidence you have to have to wear a pink suit? He just called out Mike Tyson, guys.
No, he said good things about Max. He was talking about Mike Tyson at the CPI. The what? The Cellular Performance Institute down in Tijuana where you saw him.
Oh, shit. Cellular Performance Institute. You're going to my one. You like that one. I like it.
It is a new generation. Yeah.
By the way, he's only two years younger than Max.
Yeah, but this is the new generation, man. Max has been fighting since he was 18. That's right.
Younger than I am.
In UFC, bud. Yeah. Oh my goodness.
I don't like seeing that. I don't like seeing that.
This left hook is nasty. Misses, misses, then chunk. Hands down, too.
Bro, so much power. You think it's the tattoo on his back, Brian? What's that, buddy? The tattoo on his back. You think that contributes to his power?
I do.
Is it low enough to be considered a tramp stamp?
No, it goes all the way up to the top. It goes all the way down to his crack, but that represents the double helix.
Right.
And life, you understand? Life.
And all the chakras and shit, right?
Well, it's when your chakras are aligned. Oh, and he wants to get more drunk. Do you like this wine? I'm not even drunk. It's good stuff. I fucking love this wine.
That's hilarious. Just don't give Eddie tequila.
It's from Paso Robles, and it's like a Bordeaux.
The tomahawk is out. But most of the Paso Robles.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jesus is a drink wine.
He made it.
Here.
The thing is, all wine gets made out of water.
Can you imagine when Jesus did that? What's that?
Volkanovski? Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Damn. He's like, yo. They're going to do it again. Volkanovski's probably like, ooh. Let's do it again. Slow down.
Yeah, yeah. Can we party first and just hang out and be friends? Yeah, we'll do it in Spain. That'd be fun.
Man, they're both class acts, though.
Yeah. No, 100%. Class acts. Man, so what do you do with Lopez? Do you have a love of it?
Can I just say something?
One more fight.
I want to just say one thing. Daniel Cormier was a heavyweight, and he's a little taller than Taboria. That's why Daniel Cormier is one of the most impressive fighters.
Daniel Cormier probably could have fought 85 if he was one of those crazy dudes.
If he shredded down, he could have been 55.
No.
Dude. He fought at heavyweight? No. Have you lost all that shit? He's 5'10". Do you know how thick he is? No. No, he's 5'9". You know how thick he is? 5'9", exactly.
If he shredded up? No, dude. Like fucking... Remember who was that guy from Canada? He's built different. He would die if he got to 55. Do you remember the guy from Canada who's like 145? Shredded. He... From the UFC? Yes. What did he do? Tell me, what did he do? Like maybe 10, 15 years ago. Hominick? No. Hominick. No, not Hominick.
No, Hominick wasn't true.
No, not Hominick. Not Hominick. There was another guy. Wait, wait. In that era. Wait, a guy who sucked a lot of weight, you're saying? He sucked a lot of weight. He looked like an alien.
What was his name? Wait, wait, wait.
Big hands. Big hands. Canada. Sam Stout? Yes! Sam Stout. Watch a Sam Stout fucking weigh in, dude. He looks like an alien. So does Conor McGregor at 45.
Oh, at 45.
Oh, he's horrible.
Deathly. He looked horrible at 45. Damn, how did you know everybody? I guess.
Did you see that? What is Max saying? What's Max saying? I don't think I'll see you again. I'll see you again, my friend, he said.
Hey, did you hear about that girl in PFL was weight cutting and she's been in a coma?
I did hear about that. What happened with that? It sucks.
How much did she weigh? I don't know. She's been in a coma. I think she's doing better, but I don't know.
Fuck. Weight cutting is so dangerous and so unnecessary.
Didn't Khabib end up in the hospital? I don't believe so.
Yeah, he did when he was going to fight Tony Ferguson. Really? Kidney failure. That's right. Bro, that's so amazing.
Brandon's an encyclopedia. It's almost like we're throwing him softballs just to see.
You're probably studying two hours a night. God damn. I'm going to get you. I'm going to get you. He's got Google.
He's got Google glasses. You see those glasses that you can wear, and they have facial recognition technology, so you can look at a stranger, and it'll start scrolling everything about them on the internet. I don't want that. So you can look at a stranger, and it picks up their face, and it goes, oh, this guy is this. You get their credits.
Go for a Google search. They'll find their home address.
And you know the difference between virtual reality and augmented reality? Augmented reality is you put the glass so you could put those fucking meta goggles on and you can be in a different dimension you could be fucking fighting zombies in a desert or You could put the glasses on and you see everything in the room, but then other shit pops up Pokemon shit.
Yeah Dude, there's there's a company called an app called soapbox and and dude. You put these glasses on, and you could have Metallica jamming in your fucking room. And it's like, you see everybody here, but then James Hetfield is right here playing guitar.
It's crazy. Do you think you could do that with fighting? Is there any way you could be fighting in a virtual world? That's coming.
Augmented reality is you see everything, but new shit pops up.
100%.
They have something similar in football, but in baseball too, what they have now is... the pictures, where it's the virtual reality, and he does the whole wind-up, and it comes, because you want, they need hand recognition. They need to see the release. So they have the technology now where the release comes out, and then the machine shoots it out. Curveballs, sinkers.
I have a 15-year-old fursuit.
Oh, yeah, I've seen this. This giant screen. We've got to get the feed for this for the Fly Companion. I know, right? We could send it. They should be able to send it to us.
What it is is they go to see it, and they're in front of a 100-foot screen. What the fuck? You're standing literally on the edge of the octagon watching it way bigger than we're watching.
This is what happens in the meta headsets. You can do this with headsets on, but this is physical. This isn't real. Crazy, right?
But there's a place in Los Angeles, Jamie, that's way better than this.
Well, this is the first one. This is the same. Oh, okay. The same company? I was just trying to find the UFC video.
Oh, maybe it's just a different video, but they had one of the Yuri Prohaska versus Pereira fight, and it's bananas. Like, you're watching this enormous screen, and they're serving drinks, and it's better than being there live. Because you also can get commentary.
Where is this?
So they have one in Dallas, I think. They have one maybe in L.A. That's better. I think it's in L.A., right, yeah. It's amazing. It's called Cosmos. This is the sphere.
So look at the screen. So look how this is. Look how big the fucking screen is. So you're right there, basically. You're better than there.
Yeah, they have a different feed than you can get on TV.
Yo, that sphere? I went to the UFC at the sphere? Oh, my God.
Have you ever done that?
You went to a meeting? Yo, dude.
I was there. I did commentary. You were there?
I was there for the UFC?
Wait, what do you mean you were there? I was there in the audience.
UFC Noches? How come you didn't fucking tell me? I went with the CPI guys. Oh. And, dude. He asked if you were there. I was working. Yeah, you were busy. Joe Rogan was there. Joe Rogan was there. He was so goddamn busy. You know what? I got invited. I wasn't planning on going. I got invited last minute. I got picked up in a private jet. I'm like, how am I going to say no?
So, dude, that sphere shit. Amazing. It's fucking insane, dog. Insane. I was thinking, there's no way you can go back to regular UFCs after this live. Have you done the Spirit thing? Well, we did a live event. It's insane, dog. It's fucking crazy.
It's so much money, though. It's too much money. I'd rather have better cards than the Apex. How was it? What did you think?
Oh, that's right. You didn't like it. That was your official. Did you like it, Joe? Yeah, I loved it.
Dude, it was insane. It was an incredible experience.
For the fans. It was incredible. In person. It was incredible. That's what it looked like. It was incredible.
Back it up a little bit, Jamie. Back it up a little bit. I was blown the fuck away. This is what it looks like.
Yeah.
Wow. It was crazy. It's amazing. But it's so much more expensive. That was like $20 million just to do.
They've got to make it cheaper. No big deal. I think the fights are enough, though. If you need all that shit to get up for the fights, it's wild to me. If you could do it, nothing is too expensive. If you could do it, don't do it.
It's business. This is what I think. Once a year.
Once a year.
Once a year we do the sphere.
We're getting to a point.
But you do it July 4th, American Independence.
All that shit. All that shit, but you got to keep doing it.
I'll tell you what, the Mexican Independence Day was pretty fucking dope.
Imagine American and you have Bo Nick. What's going to happen is there's going to be a sphere in every major city and it's going to... Like, concerts? Bands? Bands doing this? Dude, bands? It's never too expensive. I know, but Eddie, you're not right. It's not.
No, it is, because you can't make money off the tickets.
You need Vegas for this, because Vegas... Technology gets cheaper and cheaper and cheaper and cheaper everywhere. You can get a fucking 90 fucking... You go to Best Buy and get a 90-foot fucking screen for $200.
I think it's more than that.
They were supposed to make three of these to start, and they only made this one. The next one they're going to make is way smaller. But you know what? Hold on.
Eventually the price goes down. So the sphere's losing their ass. They're like in billions of dollars in debt.
Yeah.
Do we know this?
No.
Yes. We're getting to a point.
The business model's not working. It's too expensive. Okay, so whether it's too expensive or not, right now, whatever. You're saying technology? Just based on the experience?
Money. Money.
But just based on the experience. No, no. What I'm saying is the possibility. Because I didn't pay shit. I got free tickets. And I thought it was the most amazing experience. I've been to 9,000 UFC shows. And this one was the best by far.
But you don't need it though, Eddie.
Like wouldn't you rather just have a great fight card?
You don't need it, but why not have it? We're getting to a point where anything you can imagine visually you can have. It's too expensive. It's too much money.
We gotta pay rent.
Oh my God, I miss these shows. I miss these shows.
It's too expensive. Nothing is too expensive. Bro, nothing is too expensive.
Saudis, get the Saudis involved. They were involved in this one. That was Riyadh season. Riyadh season was partially sponsored.
I'm telling you, when you're sitting in the fucking, when you're watching all that shit, and you're watching all that shit, it was so incredible. Incredible. It was amazing. That Noche thing with all the Mexicans. And then that chick got her fucking forehead split open. What the fuck? It was crazy. You see it so up close and personal.
They should have stopped that fight, huh?
Don't you think?
I think they should have stopped that fight.
She was not going to stop.
Irene Aldana is a beast. She's a monster. She was not going to stop. But that doesn't need to happen.
But what do you think about that? Do you think they should stop fights when somebody's taking a huge... Well, it's that bad of a cut.
That's a crazy cut, man. That cut was like six inches long on her forehead.
They should allow... I think in between rounds, they should allow them to sew that shit up. No, no, no.
Yeah, you watch Rambo. Remember Rambo? Rambo did it. Rambo did it. I agree. I agree, dude. So let's sit up, baby.
We got pay-per-views. No stand-ups. Stay in the same position. You have one minute to sew it up.
No gloves.
No cage. And do all the fights in the sphere.
We have cut men in the UFC.
We should have stitch men. And you do it yourself.
You got to do it yourself with a mirror. If the money wasn't an issue, if the money wasn't an issue and technology was like super cheap. You said money's no issue, bro. No, if money was no issue, the sphere is the answer. No. The sphere is the answer.
It might be too much of a distraction. No.
If you need that to be entertained by the best fighters in the world, you're a fucking moron. You're talking about, come on, dog. Were you on mushrooms, Eddie, when you went there? I was not on mushrooms. It makes you feel like you're on mushrooms. I did mushrooms three times, and I had enough. The universe told me, you did enough. You see God. Go live life.
To make money, that's why U2 has to play there, or the Eagles have to play there, like 20 nights in a row.
You know what?
You have to stay in the sphere to make money.
You bagged on the sphere, and I see that you have to stick with that. I get it. I get it.
Still don't make money.
Stick with it. So much money to build. Technically, he went out and just said, this fear was insane.
Eddie, it costs $71 million operating costs in one quarter.
The government gives NASA $19 billion a year. $19 billion a year to NASA?
Yeah, but this isn't the government. This is just a place where you go to see concerts. Jesus Christ. $849 million.
Why are you bringing NASA into this shit, bro? Dude, NASA gets $19 billion a year, and we can't go to the sphere to watch a fight?
It's not the same. You don't take tax money to make the sphere. Look at this. But look at this. It says, Sphere Entertainment faces near-term debt pressures with $849.8 million coming due in October 24th, which is now. They owe a lot of money. The company is pursuing a workout with lenders to refinance the obligations. They're fucked, man. They're fucked.
That's almost a billion dollars in debt. That's because the lights are on 24-7. Hold on. Stop before you talk.
There's an operating loss of $71 million in the first quarter. I get it. So this is going to keep compounding quarter to quarter. That's almost $400 million. I get it.
I get it. But let me finish. It costs $500 billion, okay? The sphere costs $500 billion. It costs $100 billion, right? Right. But... That's the ultimate shit. So we got to figure out how to fucking pay for this, dog. We got to have every fighter going out on their Instagram fucking blowing it up. It's a DMT trip. It's Rainforest Cafe.
Nothing is too expensive. No. One of the greatest moments in any event that I've ever seen is Kamaru Usman getting knocked out by Leon Edwards. He's losing five rounds in. Imagine that in the sphere, dog. You can't fucking believe it. It doesn't matter. It's like anywhere that that happens, a moment like that, you're like, what? What? Oh, my God. You're talking about Jack Johnson shit.
It doesn't get better. Come on, I get it. Okay, Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson knocking out Mitch Green. You're talking about Mike. Okay, we get it.
Look at that. They posted a $201 million net loss on revenue of $1.03 billion. Okay, this is what I'm going to predict. So they made a billion and they lost $200 million. That's nearly double the $573.8 million revenue number in the prior year. That's not a good...
Okay, it's going to fail.
It's going to fail. I've been saying this whole time.
No, you know what they're going to do?
It's going to get real cheap and the Saudis are going to buy it. Exactly.
Technology is cheap. You can get a VCR right now for $3.
But those Saudis are actually really expensive. VCRs are really expensive. VCRs are $3.
But Joe, but Joe.
Technology goes down. Haven't you guys noticed that? You haven't noticed that technology keeps going down? And then you have vision. You're like, okay, technology goes down. It's expensive now. 234 bucks for a VCR. That's so expensive. Dude, I'm shocked that they're $280. That's expensive as shit. Jamie goes, they're actually really expensive. That's way more expensive.
Realistically, I thought they'd be like $50.
You know the craziest thing about these Apple AR goggles? They're super light. You can put them on and you can watch a movie. You watch Avatar, it's on a 100-foot screen.
I can't see who's around me, so it makes me nervous.
No, you can see through it. You can make it this size, and you can see your house other than that screen. You can point it to a wall. You can point it to a wall, like this wall right here. You can fill that wall up to your desired size with a screen and watch a film on it.
And not only the desired size, but on Soapbox, whatever band you could see, you could put them right here, or you could put them... Over there, way in the corner of the kitchen. Oh, with their backs. You could be behind them.
Or you could go right here.
It's crazy.
No, no, seriously. You could put these VR characters wherever you want.
You could be like right there. You have a good voice, by the way. That's a good Beyonce.
I didn't know you could dance, dog.
I did not know that. I didn't know that. Why? Because I'm moving from where? It's from your box. It's from your box.
We're just smelling salts.
Dude, we gotta end with the Smiling Salts. Let's end with that. We're gonna end with the Smiling Salts.
Dude, what if we're... Let me ask you this. What if this is a simulation?
You keep extrapolating. Holy shit.
Are these jujus? And I'm not gonna do it.
They haven't been freshly opened. I'm gonna watch you guys do it. No, he's gonna do it. The freshly opened ones are definitely the best.
Insane in the Membrane would be a good song for this one. Insane in the... Cypress Hill? Oh, shit.
You gotta take a good deep breath. Oh, come on. Get that big dick. You gotta get in there with those.
You gotta get in there with those.
Ah, fuck. Get it here, guys. Here. Bring your hands here.
Throw it.
Throw it.
Throw it.
Throw it. Throw it. Throw it. Throw it.
Throw it.
Throw it. Throw it. Throw it. Throw it. Throw it. Throw it. Throw it. Throw it. Throw it. Throw it. Throw it.
Throw it.
Throw it. Throw it.
Throw it. Throw it.
Throw it.
Where did she go now?
What is this one? This is the strongest one. That's the strongest one right there. Danny, it's from here. No, this one's stronger. Oh, that one's stronger? Take it out. That one's stronger. Where did she go now? Where did she go now? Inside of the membrane. Inside of the brain.
It's good, guys. It's good.
Oh! Yeah, that's stronger, right?
That one's really strong.
That's the strongest one.
I'm getting used to it, dog. We solved a lot of problems. I can hang with it.
This is still one of my favorite scenes in any movie of all time. What's that? Opening scene of Blade. That's Joey Diaz. When all the vampires... Joe, here's my question back to the fighting.
With the Saudi money, how long are they going to keep investing because they're losing their ass? If you notice, nobody's... They don't give a fuck. Well, you know they're never coming back to America because they lost their ass on the Terrence Crawford fight, so they're not coming back here.
Do you know that they're in business with Dana White now?
Okay.
So this is what's going on. So Dana White and Riyadh Season are going to start promoting boxing.
Which I think Dana and boxing is perfect.
I can't tell you all the plans, but apparently His Excellency had a very difficult time with a lot of the boxing promoters. Didn't enjoy working with the boxing people. And this is essentially what he said to Dan. He's like, how the fuck did you deal with these people? He's like, I was trying to tell you. And he's like, why don't we do something? Dan's like, let's talk.
And so that's what's happening right now. Now, if that happens, you're going to have very similar things to what the Saudis are doing. The Saudis are just saying, I want to see this fight. What is it going to cost? And they don't care if people are in the stands. Like Martin Boccoli when he fought Jared Anderson. Jared Anderson's people were saying, do not take that fight.
But Martin Boccoli, who's the most dangerous fucking guy in the heavyweight division that nobody knows about. Do you know that guy? No. From the Congo? I don't know him. Martin Boccoli's fucking terrifying.
There's a guy in the heavyweight division? There's a black guy in one FC from fucking Africa some rug rug.
Yeah Whoa, yeah guys you're gonna say Martin Buccoli Jared Anderson, bro this guy He is the most, this is Martin Bacoli, he's the most feared heavyweight. He's fucking huge. And Jared Anderson was undefeated. He was like the American prospect. And Bacoli just starts putting it to him. And he's really hard to hit, too, man.
This guy, the guy he's fighting, the guy with back fat. Look at the head movement. Roy Jones Jr. teaches that guy. That's his protege.
Wow, he just took this fight a little too early, and Bacoli's just fucking huge.
He's young. He's like 20. How much does he weigh? Look at that. Oh, damn. Boom. Is he going to be in there with Tyson Fury and all that shit? He's in the mix? Yes. He's the next wave.
Oh, he's the next one? No, but he can do it right now. He fucks those guys up in sparring. The stories about this guy in sparring, everybody he brings in, he gives them a world of hell.
And I think Dana going to boxing is great because you let Dana get involved with this guy and turn these guys into actual stars.
I'm telling you, man, nobody knows who this guy is. Martin Bacoli, he's the fucking future. He's a problem, yeah. He's the future. That's the future. He knocks everybody out. He's got an iron chin. No losses? I don't know if he has any losses. He might have one early in his career, but he stopped the fight. He beat the brakes off that dude. He looks like a giant Rick Ross. He's huge, too.
What's his record? Let's see what his record is, Jim. He's from Los Angeles? One loss. I think he has one loss early in his career. How the fuck did he lose?
He lost to TKO. But we haven't seen him against the top, top, top. In 2018. Michael Hunter beat him. We got to look into that guy. Six years ago. We haven't seen him against the best guys, though, right?
Not yet, but the talk about him and sparring is that nobody likes it. It's terrifying. And then when you see him beat up Anderson, that's the word is that Anderson should have avoided him. He looks like George Foreman. Huge dude. Huge dude. Yep. So that fight only took place because the Saudis were like, hey, like Bob Arum was just talking about it, saying he shouldn't have taken the fight.
And then he advised them to not take the fight. But Jared Innocent doesn't have that kind of Floyd Mayweather type money. And all of a sudden the Saudis are like, how much? How much? Because they print money. And then they came up with the amount, and he's like, okay, I'll take it. But he took a fight too early.
It's wild. I mean, they're giving us the fights we want to see, but the crowd, because there's no natural fan base there. But a lot of people are flying in there to see those fights, too. Sure. Because it's such a big deal. And that's what their hope is, tourism. It'll happen.
As long as they be cool with Western ideas and don't fuck with women wearing skirts and shit like that. As long as they change their ways. As long as they just allow Westerners to come there and feel safe, like Dubai. Dubai is one of the safest fucking places on earth. If you leave a Rolex on the ground in Dubai, someone will fucking turn it in.
You would think that Mexico is the least safest place, but do you know that five cities in Mexico are among the top eight in the safest cities in North America?
Yeah, the cartel doesn't like violence.
There's certain cities where the cartel doesn't allow any violence. Like Merida. Merida, it's by Cancun. Safest city in North is in Mexico. The safest city is in North in Mexico. Who would have ever thought that?
Make a good deal. That's like Vegas was run by the mob. It was great.
Bro, I made a mistake. I was talking about the cartel because they have the Baja 1000, Baja 500, like all the off-road races. And I was like, yeah, there's some killing. I had my information off. Dude, the off-road community was like, say what? Because it's super safe. Like, no, dude, you're fucking us. We can't get tourism down here because that's the narrative in America.
Yeah, every time someone gets whacked, it becomes big news. People get whacked in America every day. All the time.
Every day.
Chicago.
Super safe. Yeah. Oakland. Oakland is like, what's going on in Oakland?
To drive through those Oakland shantytowns where you have these homeless communities that go for blocks and blocks and blocks. Don't show up in East Oakland.
Cops don't show up. I think you're talking about the 10-1. No, I'm talking about Oakland. Oakland's way worse.
I think Oakland Raiders left and Oakland A's are gone.
They're all gone.
Jamie, go to Oakland homeless camps. They're crazy. There's a lot of people.
Is that a red or a blue state? Is there any of those in the red state? That's a booster state. I'm just asking questions.
Austin probably is the worst homeless problem, and maybe Dallas is a homeless issue.
Austin's out of control. I just drove. It's a lot better than LA, son. They're trying to fix LA. What do you mean you don't know about that?
There's LA camps that have been- Brian, your opinions are amongst the worst. What do you mean? Well, LA's a lot bigger, so we're getting more homeless. Also, they've actually mitigated the homeless people. They don't let them camp on the streets here. Here, you mean? No, they clean them up. If they do it under the underpasses, they do it for one night. They clean them up, man.
They actually move them out of there. They cleaned up Austin? Really?
Yeah, they cleaned it up substantially from when I first moved here. But Joe, where we lived out in, and I still live there, where you used to live, we didn't deal with homeless.
No, but that's a different area.
You got to go into, downtown's the worst.
No, no, I'm in downtown every day. All downtown's a mess. They've cleaned up a lot of it in downtown. That's good.
They're trying to. This is underpasses in Oakland.
But by the way, so Austin has tackled their homeless problem?
They've done a great job. I had the mayor in to talk to me about what he was going to do. They bought hotels and they moved people in. There's a bunch of different programs out here where they're trying to give people life skills. It's a drug problem though, isn't it? It's 100% a drug problem.
Houston's done the best job.
And mental health. Houston's done the best job.
Really? Yeah.
Houston's the best.
Houston? They got it on early, yeah. Really? Yeah, they got it early.
Well, I had the mayor in here at the time, Stephen Adler, and he said, you've got to take care of the problem before it gets too big. Stephen Adler's the drummer for Guns N' Roses. I know, crazy. Same name. They were like, the first thing you've got to do is make sure it doesn't get as big as LA is, where you can't do anything. It's too late. LA's too big.
He's like, we only have 2,000, 3,000 homeless people. He's like, we can put a stop to this.
And what do they do? Put them in rehab? Yeah.
They kill them? They make sausage. homeless sausage they have a bunch of programs I actually went to I had one of the guys who runs one of those programs on the podcast what was that gentleman's name again
Has Seattle and Portland done anything about their fucking insanity? No, they don't care either.
They finance it. It's amazing. Everyone's diverse. Some people like to shoot up.
I had a friend who moved his family.
Alan Graham. Loaves and Fishes, right, is the name of his company?
Dude, I had a friend who moved out of, I don't want to say his name, but he moved out of Seattle. Mike Tyson. Not Mike Tyson. You know what? He grapples like Mike Tyson.
He does.
He does grapple. But he moved out of Seattle because of the wokeness. He moved to Arkansas, and he thought it was the greatest move ever. He was like fucking in Arkansas, and he thought, oh, my God. And then the KKK fucked him. And then, no. No, his wife was pregnant and they were, you know, they took a couple edibles here and there. She gave birth to a black baby.
No, I'm trying to, I don't know what happened. She got tested for marijuana. Yeah. And now they're like fucking facing like criminal charges. Oh yeah. So it's like, Oh my God. I live. Yeah. I live Seattle.
So they, they just tested her because she was pregnant and she had taken an edible. Yeah.
Oh my goodness. Now they're in deep. Shit. Oh my goodness. Yeah, it's a friend of mine. And we're like trying to figure this out. I'm like, damn, you need to go back to Seattle, dog. We need to get Trump on that.
It's crazy. Arkansas don't fuck around with weed. A friend of mine had a dinner party. She was like seven months pregnant. She was hungry. And I think she saw some Froot Loops or some shit or whatever and ate them. It turned out they were weed. Oh, no. Check it out. So she got super high and she went to the emergency room because she was pregnant, right? Right.
But the doctor said, I'm not that worried. I'm worried about alcohol. If it was alcohol, I'd be more worried. I'm not worried about this.
Well, it's not toxic.
Is that what it is?
Yeah, you shouldn't be getting high while you're pregnant, but it's not toxic. Right. It's not like you have to worry about the kid getting poisoned, fetal alcohol syndrome, and a bunch of things that are- That's worse. Yeah, very, very, very bad for the child, especially when someone's a rampant alcoholic. Raging alcoholics that are pregnant, it's a devastating impact on the child. Yeah.
But he said you don't have to worry about anything?
It's not toxic. He was like, man, it's not the end of the world.
No, there's actually studies about people who smoke marijuana while their kid's in the- It's like, don't do it. But it's not the worst thing in the world. It's not a toxic thing. Right. You know, but- It can be good. It can be good. It can't be good. It's not good for kids. Developing minds shouldn't have anything. We all did it.
We all snuck booze and all kinds of shit when we were kids and we were teenagers. But the reality is, especially men, our fucking frontal cortex doesn't even develop correctly until we're like 25. Exactly.
Or 40.
Or 50.
But alcohol is just retarded. You want to talk about what's bad for you, if you look at the studies on alcohol, even the moderate amount. Bust out that one. This one is different, bro. It's different, bro. Alexander. I can't believe you guys haven't had to take a piss.
No, this is from Paso Robles. Are you ready? Trump hung in there for three hours, didn't pee, left, didn't pee before he left. He's a robot. Just got in here, didn't have to use the restroom, sat down for three hours. And these are his Diet Cokes. And then flew out. They're his Diet Cokes? Yeah, there's a bunch of Diet Cokes for him. He's the only guy I know that drinks more.
You know why he drinks Diet Coke and eats McDonald's? Because they can't poison that. Well, no, McDonald's has an issue. McDonald's has an issue. No, if he goes to McDonald's, how are they going to poison the McDonald's? How are they going to poison the Diet Coke?
That's true.
No, that's real.
Well, I don't know if that's why he's there. I think it tastes delicious.
I think he just likes it.
He likes Kentucky Fried Chicken. Remember when he was on the Air Force One and having some Kentucky Fried Chicken?
How tall is he in person? Big dude?
He's like 6'1", I guess, probably.
Oh, shorter than I thought. That's what Schultz said. Schultz said he's actually smaller than I thought.
70, 78.
I thought he was like 6'4".
Maybe he was at one point in time and he shrunk. But very nice guy. Fun to talk to. We had a good time. I talked to him like I talked to everybody. I swore. I just talked normal.
Has your Trump impression improved?
I don't have a good Trump impression.
Has it improved? Like a little bit?
He didn't sound like Trump with you. He sounded more like he was just more calm. Could you do Joey Diaz doing Trump? Is that possible?
He didn't think he was going to get attacked.
Oh, yeah.
His guard was down. Well, it's not even that his guard was down. He knew I wasn't going to fuck with him. I'm like, I just want to talk to you. The same way I would treat Kamala Harris. I just want to have a conversation. Yep. Just like, I just want to know what, what did you do? Why'd you do this? What was it like when you got in an office?
Like there was a bunch of things that I needed to ask him about. There's a few that I didn't get to. Uh, abortion was one of them. Psychedelics was another one. There's a couple, a couple of different things that I did want to talk to him about. But the, the, the big one for me was like, what the fuck is it like when you've never governed anything ever?
And then all of a sudden you're in the white house. Like what's that experience? I talked to, well, he was very, he, he, it takes a while. Because he goes on these journeys. He likes to talk about different kinds of things. And he calls it a weave. And he brings it back to the original subject. But he can talk about anything he wants that way. He kind of dictates the conversation.
But I had to kind of bring him back to that. Well, you have thousands of people. How many people did you appoint? He had to appoint 10,000 different people to these jobs. And he has no experience. So he doesn't know these people. So he's taking other people's advice. And there was a lot of people that I put in that I shouldn't have put in.
And he's super honest about it and what he did and what he was trying to do by imparting tariffs and by decreasing taxes. He wanted to stimulate business and he wants to drill for oil. He said, we have more oil in this country than any country in the world. He said, we can be completely self-sustaining in the United States. Bring American manufacturing back.
The way that we get taxed if we sell our stuff overseas, we should be taxing that. We should be hitting them with tariffs. He even floated out the idea, I don't even know if this would work, but he floated out the idea we're going to end income tax and just rely totally on tariffs. Totally.
Can you imagine we're paying 50% of our fucking money and we still got to pay for water? We still got to pay for energy. We got a water bill and we're paying 50% of our fucking checks. That shit should be fucking free. That shit should be fucking free. Take it easy. You should get a well.
Can you do Joey Diaz doing an impression? What did he say about the wall? Did you talk about the wall at all?
Yeah. He was talking about what they're doing, what they're trying to do. It's very clear that he thinks they're trying to get voters. Of course. They're bringing people in. They're financially incentivizing them to give them housing, food.
No ID to vote.
No ID to vote. And then amnesty. They're trying to give them amnesty. And they keep pushing for this stuff. And they mysteriously wind up in swing states. Yeah, but two things about that app.
Mysteriously.
Yeah, it's crazy. And then that app, the original use of that app, I can pull up that app because I saved this because it's very bizarre when you really find out what it actually is all about. The original app was used as a shipping app. It was one of those things where people used it because you're in the country for a certain amount of time because you brought over a bunch of goods.
Do you know what they're finding, though, when those immigrants actually vote? Careful now, Don Lemon. Listen, this is a fact. What you forget is they come from Catholic conservative cultures. So guess what the second generation always votes? Republicans.
Well, that's certainly true if you come from Venezuela. Those guys we're bringing in from Venezuela, except for the ones... And Central America.
But not all of them are from Venezuela. They don't get down with the transgender, the abortion, none of that. So they vote Republican. None of those countries do. They're very Catholic. And so that's the first thing. But if you get amnesty and you get all these benefits from... Here's something people aren't talking about. You want to hear this? I'm going to send it to you, Jamie.
Listen to this, Bob. So with that wall, when you build a wall like that, guess what? You put in roads. You put in like 50, 100 major roadways to get all the material to the wall. Guess what that does? The Sonoran Desert and the Chihuahuan Desert are amazing natural barriers. Now that you put roads in there, it actually makes it easier for migrants to walk those roads at night.
So it made it easier. That's the irony of that wall. So there's a lot of things that go on with this fucking immigration that you do one thing, you never know what the ripple effect is going to be.
100%.
Jamie, put up with that thing that I showed you. This is the weirdest one. This is the app. The U.S. Customs Border Protection, CBP, has several mobile apps, including CBP One, Mobile Passport Control, MPC, and MyCBP. So launched in October 2020, the free app provides access to a variety of CBP services. It uses guided questions to help users find the right services, forms, or applications.
CBP One was originally used to help commercial trucking companies schedule cargo inspections. In 2023, the app was expanded to allow unauthorized migrants. So they changed this app that was just for shipping. And so these people can now use this app and request asylum and book appointments at the U.S.-Mexico border. So they're just... full-scale trying to bring people in.
They're also doing that so they can travel, too.
They're giving them money, they're giving them housing, and they're going to provide amnesty, and they're voters. So now they're voters. Who are they going to vote for? Are they going to vote for the people who want to deport them? No. They're going to vote for the people that gave them money and food stamps and housing and brought them to America. Just makes sense.
Yes, it does. But guess what? Because they're so conservative, they a lot of times vote for Republicans. I disagree, Brian.
You're talking about next generation, right? But here's the thing. Once you get that system rigged, you really get that system rigged, you never have to worry about those states ever becoming red again.
Just like California.
California's never going to become red again. They've got that thing down. They did amnesty in California. They allowed people to vote in California. And then they just set up a bunch of policies that make it very convenient for people that are migrants to come across the border. And then you have mail-in ballots and you have no voter ID. So you don't know who the fuck's voting.
That's true.
And you essentially rigged an election without doing anything completely illegal. Everything is like fairly legal.
It's an interesting thing because you wonder about whether or not they will create that problem, though, whether the second generation. But here's the other issue. You could technically, they say, first of all, I think we're the only country in the world where when you vote is not a national holiday. That's ridiculous. Yeah, but it favors Republicans, just so you know.
For whatever reason, I don't know why, but it favors Republicans because if you gave everybody the day off, people would be able to take time off to vote. And more poor people are Democrats. Well, whatever you want to call it. What do you mean, whatever you want to call it?
The people that can't afford to take the day off.
They're less wealthy. You could technically, and we are going to get to the point where technically, you could use biometrics to Vote from your phone and keep the fraud down to at least a minimum so it wouldn't make a difference.
Yeah, but the problem is anytime you have something on a computer, you've got shenanigans. Jimmy Carter figured this out in the 1970s. Trump was talking about it. That Jimmy Carter realized back then that you can't have mail-in ballots because there's too much room for fraud. The chain of custody is funky. Right. From someone drops in a mailbox, a guy picks it up. No one's watching him.
He brings in a sack. What if that guy's a nutty Democrat or a nutty Republican and he knows he's in a Democrat county and they're all Biden signs on there? So he picks up their mail and throws their shit in the garbage.
That's a documentary. Two thousand years.
I didn't see that. I had that guy on my podcast. What's that shit? So I had him on my podcast. What's his name? Dinesh D'Souza. And I kept asking him, though. I was like, could you keep talking about there's more evidence? So there's hundreds of hours or thousands of hours of CCTV footage. And they just, at the end of the day, never delivered on it.
It's in the documentary.
Just watch it.
Maybe he didn't deliver it on your podcast, but he put a documentary out.
I saw it. I watched Doc and I interviewed him. What about it?
Brian is fully indoctrinated into the CIA.
When do you think it happened?
I don't know. Is Kamala giving you money? Yeah. He's going to be doing one of them fucking things right next to Beyonce with a big stupid smile on his face.
This podcast is being sponsored by Kamala Harris. This wine is actually from Kamala Harris. He has to leave early to go hang out with John Legend. She's probably got her own vineyard. Let's open another bottle. I got another bottle of the 2013. It's over? Isn't it beautiful? Do you have 2020 cold duck? Dude, I'm obsessed with this.
2013?
That was a few years ago. Wine people are so weird. That wine was okay. Come on.
He's like, I'm obsessed with it. Now, if it was 2001, would there be a difference?
It depends. Depends on the drought and whether or not climate change is real. See, that's why Leonardo DiCaprio is voting for Kamala Harris. It has nothing to do with the Diddy Parties. Nothing to do with the Diddy Parties. He's endorsed Kamala Harris because of climate change.
Did you see him when he was on a yacht and then on a private jet? Literally like last week.
But what do you think? Do you think we're going to get the names from the Diddy Parties or is that going to go away?
I think that one's going to come out.
Are people being paid off right now?
No, I think Diddy is probably a spiteful man and he probably is going to be in jail for the rest of his life and they're probably going to sing a song.
No, I'm saying how many people are getting paid right now to shut up? How many cases are falling apart? Because I'll tell you this. I don't know if that's really going on.
This is the thing. We don't know who's involved in this whole Diddy thing. Is this an intelligence agency thing where they're trying to compromise people that were famous and get them to endorse certain political candidates?
Or he's really close with Obama.
Or is it really just Diddy masterminded the whole thing like a fucking gangster?
Hey, bro. You're going down that conspiracy, like, route more and more. You're getting... How is that a conspiracy?
Was Epstein a conspiracy, though? But wait a minute, what's a conspiracy that I'm sorry about? But what am I going down with this one, specifically?
I think Diddy might have just been a fucking criminal slash freak.
Yeah, I just said that. I said that's a possibility. No, no, no, no, no. I said a possibility that he is a gangster, and he ran this whole blackmail operation himself.
Oh, yeah, yeah, 100%, yeah.
Listen, the guy was involved in music, right? And you get compromising information on these guys and get them to sign very unfavorable contracts. Like, what better way to get a guy to sign an unfavorable contract where you're going to get billions because he was a billionaire, right? You fuck that guy and film it. You get video of your boys fucking that guy and filming it.
You let him know you always have that.
Well, you put these guys on GHB or whatever the fuck they're putting them on. They're out of their minds. They don't know what's going on.
Yeah, sure.
They'll say blow their asses out.
Yeah, that's what he was doing. But you're 100% right. With like Meek Mill and stuff. That's for sure that was going on. But do you know, did he win a lawsuit against that alcohol company? The alcohol company? Ciroc. Ciroc, he won like a billion dollar deal. And once that happened, then this all came out.
Oh, well, what was the deal? It was a lawsuit.
Some racism thing.
Well, it's like they probably all knew. Everybody probably all knew. This was like an open secret, the Diddy Party thing.
It's almost like the Cosby thing.
He literally called them freak-offs. He has pulled his lawsuit in the wake of the sexual abuse allegations levied against him. Oh, so he didn't win. No, he already won. How much did Diddy win? Voluntarily dismisses racial discrimination lawsuit. Says he dismissed it.
Yeah. That was January, and then two months later it says they have an agreement.
The agreement included a 50-50 split with the company, but now Diagos owns 100%. It's estimated Diddy made about $60 million annually from the deal, according to reports.
I bet you right now.
And Diddy made a lot of money back when there was money in music.
I think lawyers are contacting his lawyers and going, hey, you want this to go away? Million dollars. Nothing's going away.
But you know how this all started. Some lady came out and had all this evidence, went to Diddy's team. Well, it was also the video of him beating the fuck out of his wife. That fucked him, but even right after that, some lady went up to his team and was like, hey, I have the evidence here. He raped me. If you don't pay me... I'm going to go live with it. And they were like, yeah, good luck, lady.
She goes live with it. And then a bunch of more people are like, oh, shit. And then an actual law firm was like, no, there's a case here. They looked at the evidence. There's a case here.
When you see him beating her up, I believe he can do anything. If you can do that to a woman and beat her up, you can do anything.
Sean Combs accused of sexually abusing 120 people, including 25 minors. Dude, 60 of them are dudes.
But here's the thing. 120, 60 dudes. Like with the Jeffrey Epstein thing, I want to see how many people actually come forward because I think people are getting paid. I think what happens. He's going to run out of money, though. Do you know what I'm saying? Do you know what I'm saying, though? Like all of a sudden, I think what happens is everybody goes, lawyers go, hey, we're making a claim.
Well, listen, if he's a billionaire, that's $1,000 million. Right. So how much of that is tied up? How many billions does he actually have?
They go to you and they say, we'll give you $1 million unless you want to drag this out. I bet it's a lot more than $1 million, Brian.
Yes. Maybe, but I'm saying the lawyers... If that girl wanted $30 and he said no, I bet it's... Don't know who knows right, but the thing is like there's also murders.
There's death There's also people that mysteriously died in pneumonia baby his baby mama died of drug overdose yet She wasn't a drug addict at all and she died in a Starbucks parking lot.
No, it's 7 a.m There's some there's some sketchy shit involved in this and you know whether it's him or people work with him or for him or I don't think we get the list I
I think there's too many powerful people that are involved with the left. I don't think we get the list.
We see a lot of fucking music executives step down. You saw that, right? Yep. A lot of people. Yeah, a lot of executives. Quietly dipping out. Yep.
That's my time. Why do you honestly think that, here's my theory on the Jeffrey Epstein thing, because I went down that rabbit hole. I think he was probably, like, definitely worked for intelligence, probably a massage or something. Duh. And he had a shitload of shit. Damn. Did you just say that? I went down that. Damn. Daryl Cooper. I was like, what? I went down Daryl Cooper's, I love that guy.
Have you ever listened to the Martyr Made podcast? Yes.
That motherfucker's awesome. That guy got canceled in the stupidest fucking way possible.
I love that guy. But anyway.
He was just trying to say that there was a lot of factors involved in the Nazis killing the Jews. And one of them, it was like they were being starved out by the embargo by Winston Churchill.
If you listen to Daryl Cooper's podcast, you know he's not an anti-Semite. No. You know he's not. Super sensitive. He got canceled for that? Yeah.
what he says is yeah he was on tucker carlson's podcast and a bunch of people went after him it's the usual thing they did it without context and nuance he's a very smart guy who has pity for both sides he's such a smart guy he does all the research you want to learn about the the israeli palestinian conflict listen to fear and loathing in the new jerusalem what did he say Just listen to it.
It's a six. Give me a little synopsis.
I can't do it here, but it's beautiful.
Bro, that is such a fucked up situation down there.
It is. Horrible. But he really, as somebody who lived there for eight years of my life. You lived where eight years? I lived in Lebanon and Saudi Arabia.
So his dad was in the CIA.
I lived in the Middle East for a long time. He wasn't, but he was in banking.
Yeah.
But I grew up around the Arabs. I love the Arabs. I know the Arabs. I know Palestinians very well. I grew up around them. I grew up around Lebanese. I grew up around Saudi Arabians. I love those people. But I also understand a lot about Jewish history.
And when you listen to his podcast, that's all I say, is what you will find is you will end up coming out, shaking your head, maybe saying a prayer because you won't have answers.
Does anybody have an answer, though? It's been going on for so long.
It's been going on since Moses had a parting of the ways with the Pharaoh. It's been going on B.C., 1,400 years. There's no simple answer to it.
Hatfields and the McCoys, Middle East edition.
There's no simple... And I remind people that Gaza was mentioned in the Old Testament. If you read the Old Testament, it's mentioned, I don't know, fucking... 15, 20, 30 times, right? So it's always been a rough place in one way or another.
But having said all that... All those ancient places, man.
Dude.
You know, like I had a buddy who served in Afghanistan many, many tours, and he told me some horror stories this past weekend.
Horror stories. Like what?
Men raping men. The amount of men he saw raping men. There's this guy that was like this... Mentally handicapped guy that worked in this kitchen, and they would all rape him. They would line up and rape this guy. Why? Because they just are used to doing that, and they rape boys. He said these guys were parading their boys like they have a harem of young boys, and they would parade them out.
The more boys you had, the cooler you looked at everybody else. It's so complicated.
common he said and they don't it's like a tough guy thing i don't know how they fucking wrap their heads a lot of it a lot of is this so you you're separated in those very strict societies you are separated boys and girls are separated completely and so when you start getting sexual okay and you have older boys with younger boys and they're never around women
What happens is the younger boys end up getting fucked. And by the way, I must remind everybody, it ain't just in the Arab world. It's also in the upper echelon of British boarding schools. They all get fucked when they're younger. Yeah, it's fucking rampant.
What about those American charter schools you went to?
What about the one you went to? Guys, it's a blur. It's a fucking blur, and I'm not going to answer a bunch of questions. This is not a court of law, and I'm a straight man most of the time.
You have a bunch of 17-year-olds with no girls around.
That's what happens, bro. All of a sudden, you got no hair on your face. My dick is hard. What's going to happen?
But in Afghanistan, the stories my friend told me were fucking horrific. So they just go around fucking dudes? He said it's horrible. He said it's horrible. You see it all the time. Guys getting gang raped. Guys lined up. You know that guy that became the American Taliban? You know that guy that went over there? He said that guy got raped about a thousand times.
That guy was in prison for four years over there. He was a prisoner, and they just raped him constantly. Jesus. Constantly raped. Jesus Christ. Yeah. This is what he said. I don't know if that's true. If you're the Taliban guy and you listen to this, I'm sorry.
Where's Diddy's lube when you need it?
He's all, what? I didn't even say your name. But, you know. Gotta have lube. Apparently, that is just a part of that culture. And they don't think it's gay. They think it's like a dominant thing?
I don't get it. It's only gay if you're smiling.
I don't get it. Or looking somebody in the eye. It's only gay if you're wearing a rainbow.
If you're frowning the whole time.
This is fucked.
I'm not gay. You have to say I'm not gay.
This is terrible. I want to nut your ass.
It's just maintenance. It's just maintenance.
But imagine if they're doing that to the boys and the dudes out there. What are they doing to the women? Ignoring them.
The thing is, this one woman got raped and they blamed her for being a slut and they stoned her to death.
Oh, wow.
Because she got raped by a guy. This is dark. Yeah, these are ancient, ancient cultures. This is what it is. It's like if you went back 3,000, 4,000 years ago, that's how everybody behaved. Like, we're just so accustomed to things like consent. We're so accustomed to things like the idea that rape is bad. Yeah, we're so accustomed.
But if you go to those ancient, ancient cultures that don't have any influence of the modern world. Even cavemen, they had the fucking clubs and they would drag girls by their hair. Cartoons joking around about that, remember?
Yes. Rape was a thing of all wars had mass rape. Oh, horrible. You ever read the rape of Nanking? Yeah. I mean, that's a book. Oh, it's about what the Japanese did to China. She killed herself. The author, the author killed herself. Why? Because when you go down that, that, when you, and I went down, when you go down that rabbit hole, no, she was a Chinese woman. She researched it.
When you, I've gone down that rabbit hole. Don't do it.
Well, just give me a dip, dip my toe in this pool. They would cut, they'd take their samurai swords and cut holes in babies and fuck them. Okay, I'm good. In front of the parents. I'm good, I'm good. Check, hey, check please. All right. Yeah, enough.
You know what I'm saying? It was a savagery that was so bad that even the Japanese commanders, when the reports came back, they were like, hey, we got to do something.
Yeah, but here's the thing, man. This is like humans. Because if you go back to like the reports- There were reports of religious people that traveled with Columbus and the horrific things Columbus's men did to the Native Americans they found. They were raping the Indians too? No, worse than that. Some of these people had gold, so they found out they had gold.
They told them they didn't bring back their weight in gold. They would cut their arms off. That's right. So they'd cut their arms off in front of everybody else. Everybody else would scramble to get gold. To force them to go do this, they would grab their babies and dash their brains out on the rocks in front of the parents.
The Belgians did the same thing in the Congo. That's why we don't celebrate Columbus Day. King Leopold's men did the same shit in the Congo. With the rubber trees and stuff like that. What's wrong with people? What the fuck is wrong with you? They would cut your children's feet off and make
What's wrong with them? When you get awful, awful people in power with no one to check them and they're in a war and they've seen a bunch of shit already. They've seen horrific things. It's like the cartel.
Psychopaths. They don't value life. I think sadists come out of the woodwork in chaos and it's their opportunity to do the things they've been screaming about their whole life. There are artists of pain out there. Artists of pain. Which is why you should always thank the Lord that the founding father solved the political problem. Where what is that? Checks and balances.
I knew he was going to bring it back to some CIA shit.
Power doesn't reside in one group's hands.
And Brian's like, and this is why we should get booster shots. And this is why we need that.
Harris Waltz, guys.
We need that app to track you. It's really important. That's right. That way you can vote. So here's my quantum computer. That waltz guy's the best. Dude, I'm a knucklehead. Sometimes I'm a knucklehead.
I felt like he was going to hug J.D. Vance in that debate. J.D. Vance ate his fucking lunch. J.D. Vance is a beast.
It's fascinating reading on X. I follow a bunch of people on X that are both hardcore liberals and hardcore conservatives. And the hardcore liberals had the craziest way of gaslighting that. What do you mean? They were saying that he did great and that he made all the right points and he won the debate hands down. Yeah, it's so weird.
I saw that. Me too.
But it's people saying that openly online to let everybody know what team they're on. That's what it is. Oh, is that what it is? It's a bunch of people that are on this one team and they're terrified and their enemy is the right and no matter what, they gaslight and bullshit and pretend that candidates who are Horrible, horrible candidates.
At any other time in history, the guy lied about a service record, the guy lied about whether he was in Tiananmen Square, the guy lied about whether he was a head football coach or an assistant coach. This is too many lies, man. We're not going to believe you when it comes to foreign policy. They ignore all of it. That guy would be gone.
Did you ever see Biden when he said he graduated at the top of his class and he was a double major? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was all lies. It was all lies. But that's on television. Yeah. And the McLaughlin group used to be this political show on Sundays. Cokie Roberts said he's done. He'll never be in politics again. I mean, he's done. And he also plagiarized, I think, his college absence.
I told you we used to have Joe Biden night at Stitch's Comedy Club.
No.
I never told you that? I've talked about it a hundred times. In 1988, when Biden ran for president, he got exposed as being a plagiarist. So he lost. He got kicked out. And so it was so funny. It was such a national scandal that we had Joe Biden night at Stitch's Comedy Club. We were like, you would go up and do my act. I would go up and do your act. We would all do each other's favorite jokes.
That's great. We would all do each other's favorite jokes.
If you went up and did Joey's act, that would be fucking hilarious.
Awesome. That's how bad it was.
That's how bad it was. They just changed the narrative.
Yeah, that's how bad it was. It just took long enough where people kind of forgot, and then they had so much control over the media that they could sneak him in first as vice president. The vice president, except for J.D. Vance, the vice president is always weak. It's always like a weak option. It's always like someone who doesn't outshine you.
It's like a guy who's like a nervous headliner and doesn't want to kill her middle act. It's kind of the same thing. You want someone where they, you know, Dan Quayle. Like, don't shoot me. You don't want this guy in.
You know, it's that kind of a deal. Mike Pence.
Who the fuck wanted Mike Pence to be the president other than Mike Pence? Zero people. So, you know, Trump is smart. You don't want some fucking assassin, some guy who's way better than you. Vivek is a perfect example. That guy's good.
He's way too smart to be VP.
You can't have that guy as VP.
Have you had him on your podcast? No, I wouldn't have. Remember, the vice president has as much power as the president gives him. And Bush deliberately gave Dick Cheney a lot of power.
Oh, yeah, he wanted to go paint.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, Dick Cheney ran the whole fucking evil cabal. Yeah, it was nuts. The whole thing's nuts. But if you go back to Gerald Ford, they made Richard Nixon. Tucker Carlson told us the whole fucking story about Gerald Ford and about how Richard Nixon, who was the most popular president ever, was set up by the intelligence communities because he wanted to expose who killed JFK. What the fuck?
And they're like, yeah, hey buddy, get this, you're a crook. Oh, interesting. Yeah, the whole thing was an intelligence operation. Bob Woodward, that was his first ever story. So he's covering one of the most important stories ever, and he was an intelligence agent. Intelligence agent, he comes over from the Navy, I think. Was it the Navy? Not sure.
See if you can find the Tucker Carlson bit where Tucker Carlson is explaining. That was part of it as well. But Tucker Carlson explained it on the podcast.
It is wild.
So Nixon was a good guy?
nixon was the most popular president by votes ever yeah ever yet they smeared the out smeared the out of him he won by the largest margin of any president in u.s history wow and then all we know is he's a crook i'm not a crook uh crook and because he didn't actually turn them in right so he had found out about it that's why they didn't kill him yeah that's why they didn't kill him they just got rid of him they just and then gerald ford who was also on the warren commission
They tried to kill Ford twice. You know, two women. Do you know that Ford had two assassination attempts by women? One from the Weathermen, I think, and one from the Manson clan. Do you know that? Do you know that story? That makes sense. Well, 14 days apart. Jesus Christ. 14 days apart, two women tried to kill Ford, but I think they were like... Here's a gun.
Joe, did you ask Trump about the assassination? Like, there's nothing on it? Yeah, I didn't ask him about that.
It's hard to corral him. Like I said, he's like very slippery. I don't mean that in a bad way. I mean that he just like he talks. Yeah, guys are gifted.
talker he can just talk you never have to worry about him running out of things to say and sometimes he talks himself to corners but he gets out of it you know but it's just like he free balls that's what he does and so when I was talking to him about this he was just joking around we started talking about the UFC because I wanted to see the scar on his ear he doesn't have a little mark on his ear yeah
He did have a mark?
Yeah. He got shot.
It's a small mark. But your ear is filled with blood vessels. That's why it bleeds so much.
It heals quickly.
It heals quickly, yeah. So he was just talking about Bo Nickel and cauliflower ear. The next thing he wanted to talk about, who's the best ever. He didn't want to talk about it. Well, he did a little bit, but he said it was surreal when he won the presidency. It wasn't surreal when he got shot. I thought that was fascinating. Wow. He said being in the White House was surreal.
He goes, walking into Lincoln's bedroom, he goes, it was very surreal. But when he actually got into the White House, he said it just didn't make any sense. It was very, very surreal. He said getting shot did not seem surreal. He goes, he was on the ground. He knew who he was. They thought he was shot all over the place because of the blood, because it was the fog of confusion.
And there's blood on his face. And nobody knew where he had been hit. And they got him out of there. But when he stands up and says, fight, fight, fight, that is one of the most American things of all time. Of all time. Of all time. You can't fake that. That guy got shot. He didn't know if people were still out there shooting. Nobody knew what the fuck was going on.
And that guy stood up and said, fight, fight, fight. And he got out of there.
What do you want to ask Kamala?
I want to talk to her like a human being. I would say, what is the experience like of being the vice president? You never had any kind of national exposure at this level. What is the pressure of that like? What's it like when you get in there, when you want to do things and you can't make them happen?
What do you think you can do differently as the president versus what you've been doing as the vice president? Is it frustrating to not be able to do the things you want to do? What do you think you could do to fix certain things that the world thinks are a real problem in this country? Just give people... Give her some time.
I might not agree with her. I don't know. Let her talk. Well, she was a DA. She had a big girl job. It's not like... She had a real job.
I like how you say big girl job.
You know what I mean?
Sex is a piece of shit.
Piece of shit. It's a big job. It's just a big job. It's a good job. It's a big boy, big girl job.
It's a real job.
But you know what I'm saying? Being a DA is a real job. It's a good job. That's why I'm so surprised that she doesn't have more confidence.
Dude, it's a different skill talking in front of an audience when people hate you.
Yeah.
Okay? There's a whole thing going on.
She's got a sympathetic press.
No, it doesn't matter. The amount of people that don't think she should be there. She never won the primary. That's got to be in your head. 1%.
of the plumbers you got put in there you know it was kind of a coup yeah i mean jim gaffigan even made that joke at the what is it al smith there yeah that's kind of a coup and they're constantly telling her not to cackle right and then when she does you know in her head she's thinking fuck you know i'm like and everyone's on the side going fuck you everybody on the side goes
It's a terrible way to find out who a person is. It's a terrible way. Debates are a terrible way. It must be tough. Talking publicly when you're reading off a teleprompter is a terrible way.
The pressure, the amount of people that are fucking... Look, I've been a host on a show before, and one of the things that happens is you get all these executives in your ear, and they're all telling you, do this, do that, don't do this, don't do that, and it starts to fuck with your head.
Yes.
It fucks with your head.
So you don't just talk to her. You just want to have a conversation. A conversation.
Do not fucking cackle. They're probably telling her all kinds of shit. You better keep that fucking mouth shut.
Also, here's the deal, right? She's going from campaign stop to campaign stop to campaign stop. How much room is in there for reading? How much room is in there for learning about these policies? You're not sleeping. You're not sleeping. You're tired all the fucking time. There's constant pressure. You're worried about fucking up. So once you fuck up a couple of times, it's like bombing on stage.
Somebody said running for president is like going through 10,000 car washes. It's just constant. That's a good way of putting it.
It's constant. And it's brutal.
You're exhausted. You've got to do the same speech over and over. You've got to be careful about what you say. That's what's crazy about Trump. And doesn't she still have to work? Huh?
Doesn't she still have to work? No, no one's running the country. The country's on autopilot like a Tesla. Just cruising down the highway.
Those things crash all the time. Did she go down to the border when he made her the border czar and then we didn't hear from her?
Bro, she was never the border czar. Don't you watch MSNBC, you piece of shit?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Isn't that crazy? There's so many videos of them calling her the border czar.
They do her such a disservice because the mainstream media couldn't be more on her side and they blatantly gaslight us and we're all like, hey, fucking... They still haven't caught up to the internet. It's amazing.
They don't understand what the internet does.
How is that possible?
Because they're delusional because they've had so much power for so long. They're like a movie star or something. Everybody's been kissing their ass for so long that they're delusional.
They also went to the same college and studied the same shit. They dressed the same. They'd watch the same TEDx. There's a lot of that.
I think they read the same books. Kamala says whatever she says like when she brings up like shit that's been debunked like Charlotte and all that shit I think of course they know the people that have half a brain know that it's full of shit, but they're not worried No, they're not worried about it for the dog. He's the people that are in the trance. Keep them in the trunk. Don't worry Yeah
What do you think it is? I think if Kamala Harris came on with Joe and actually spoke from her heart and just talked about what she believes and even said, I don't know, I bet you that would, I think if she doesn't do that 100%, she's good. Brian, I don't think that's impossible.
I don't think she's capable of it.
Really? No.
And that's why they're preventing her from going on.
When you're so deep in some shit, There's no way to be honest. Because if you're honest, you're going to be talking about shit that's going to bury you.
Her margin of error right now is so small. If she comes on here and gets exposed even more, this is the biggest platform. It's already over. It just makes it even worse.
If she goes pure honesty. She buries herself. So she has no choice but to keep doing what she's doing and keep like fucking not answering questions.
Just fucking. But how about come on and talk about what you want to do differently. No, no, no. The deep state. She said nothing. The deep state wants. She said nothing.
The deep state wants chaos. They want civil war. They want nuclear war.
And that's what she represents.
They want World War III because that's the only thing that's going to keep them out of Guantanamo Bay. That's what it is. And we're headed to another war. When you're going to Guantanamo Bay, you want civil war. You would rather live in a Mad Max society than go to Guantanamo for treason.
Why do you think Trump is going to clean house?
A lot of motherfuckers are doing shit that's against the Constitution, and that's treasonous, and I think that's what this is all about. I think there's just two sides. It's not Republican or Democrat. It's good and evil. There's people that want good shit to happen, and there's people that want evil shit to happen. That's all it is.
And when you're on the evil side... I always say the goal of this republic is what? Individual liberty. We have to preserve individual liberty. Of course. That's the thing. Common sense.
But when you're a fucking criminal... He's back, guys. He's back.
A criminal that could face charges?
You don't want that shit. Yeah, you'd rather have Mad Max. Yes. If it was between living in a Mad Max society and living in prison, what would you choose? Mad Max. Mad Max.
I choose Mad Max. Bro, we need a ranch and we can have a dope ass Mad Max compound.
How big is the ranch? Big. Dude, you go back and watch World War II.
I watched World War II like two months ago and I'm like, oh my God, this is a piece of shit. It was so great in the 80s. When you look back at Road Warrior 2, the Mad Max, the first one was shit, and then the second one was supposed to be the big one. Is the second one with Tina Turner? No, that's the third one. The second one was the best one. But then you look back at it, and it's really bad.
The new ones are good. The new Mad Max is good. Oh, come on. What the... What is it called? The Fury Aurea?
What's her name?
No, I'm not talking about that woke one. I'm talking about the one with Tom Hardy. There was a woke one? Isn't the new one kind of woke? Yeah, they're all crap now.
There's a woke Mad Max? I don't know. I thought Road Warrior 2 was the only good one. I went back and watched it. I'm like, oh my God, they all suck. They all suck. There's like a gang of fucking murderers.
There's a gang of murderers. One leaves.
They're all in motorcycles and trucks. And there's a tiny little fucking oil pump in the middle of the desert and they can't get in. They can't get in this fucking place. They're like, oh, they got fire. They got like flamethrowers. We can't get in. I'm like, okay. When you go back at it, you pick it apart. It's ridiculous.
It doesn't hold up. What's the best movie you've seen in the past year?
That holds up. What movies hold up? Apocalypse Now holds up. Goodfellas holds up. Not too many other ones. Fast Times at Ridgemont High, that holds up. Big Trouble in Little China. I'm not going to comment on that one. I don't know. But not too many movies from the 80s hold up like today. Predator, Commando.
What movies from the 80s?
I went back and I remember, remember that movie Southern Comfort? Do you remember that movie Southern Comfort? No. It was about like an army platoon. They go out in the bayou and they have like blanks and like hillbillies fucking kill them. I always thought that was the greatest movie ever. I went back and watched it and I'm like, oh no, it's horseshit.
It's horseshit. I rewatched The Breakfast Club.
and actually holds does it hold up i think so that's not possible maybe you know what's interesting about those old movies like what what was wrong with us back then that we thought that was good it's all we had we were retarded yeah but it's all you had now we're like oh we know the tricks this is i think we're seen as like the evolution of society in a way like you can watch it through media like go back and watch a james cagney movie yeah
And then think of how people behave today. You're watching an evolution of the way people behave that probably is only possible when people get to watch each other like that.
And even comedy. Comedy in the 80s, Doug, you go back and watch Eddie Murphy shit, you're like, okay, I don't know. You know what I mean? And you're like, Delirious, so great. And fucking the other one when he's in a blue suit. Raw. Raw. Go back and watch that. Go back and watch that. The curtain gets pulled. To me, the only stand-up that holds up in the 80s is Sam Kinison.
When you watch Sam Kinison at the Roxy in Hollywood, that shit still holds up. That was fucking classic. But not much from the 80s holds up.
You watch sitcoms in the 80s? I know. Total bullshit. The internet has pulled the curtain back in a lot of ways. The magic trick doesn't work anymore.
Well, it's not just that. It's like humans have evolved culturally. We've evolved the way we talk and think. That's what it is. It's like that other way of doing things is stupid.
90s comedy holds up. Like Martin Lawrence, You So Crazy, Chris Rock, all that shit. That shit still is powerful. The 90s, and musically, the 90s, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, that shit holds up.
That still holds up. Hot Tub Time Machine, that's a good movie, yeah.
90s shit holds up music and comedy 90s I think 90s was probably the best decade 80s was like the test market and the 90s they perfected it Nine Inch Nails Soundgarden Alice in Chains the fuck outta here the 90s some cool cars the 90s cars too and then boxing too boxing in the 90s shit Roy Jones Jr.
bodybuilding in the 90s Frankie Lyles all that shit that's where that's when the tech industry came in that's where that's
How much the world has changed just in our lifetimes. It's so nuts. It's not great
Think about the changes.
Do you think it's all for the positive? Like you look at like mental health, all that shit. Yeah, there's more challenges.
There's more challenges.
Less connection. There's more challenges. Suicides through the roof.
There's also way more information. Like we have way more of an understanding of life.
Does that information lead to knowledge, wisdom, and truth, though?
Or does it lead to a lot of misinformation and get dumbasses where they can search anything and validate the points?
Let's ban misinformation. I'm not saying that. That's what Tim Wall said.
You can't have free speech when it involves hate speech, misinformation. Yeah, you can, stupid. That is actually a part of...
i yeah i don't know if all that information is leads us to any any to the promised land and also there's no like back in the day there was like straight up movie stars and people you looked up to now you you turn on instagram you see you know takes down the fourth wall there's no bands anymore do you realize technically on paper the data like bands like bands yeah with like four or five guys
It used to be dominating the music. There used to be like 150 bands in the top 500. Now there's like two bands. There's no more bands anymore. The music industry is single because there's no MTV. MTV killed it.
It's easier to make one star than deal with five bands, right?
it's also you're not interested in a body of work anymore that's what I'm saying you can do it all by yourself now you don't need five guys there's no more bands anymore you know that the last band was like Kings of Leon and fucking Imagine Dragons that's it there's no more bands nobody wants to listen to a whole album nobody wants to listen to a whole hour
nobody wants to watch a whole movie like we've gotten with this tick tock brain this highlight reel it's not good with our brains it's not good yeah because i think like for me growing up watching movies certain movies they almost gave me my moral compass they gave me like oh you have to work hard because like maybe it was a myth
But like Rocky and movies like that, I was like, if you work hard enough, you'll get your hand raised at the end of the day. That shit was like... Hey, Rocky III, that was a good movie.
It was a good thing. That was a good thing. Try watching it now. That's what I'm saying. It was a good thing.
Try watching it now.
I know, but it was a good thing for us.
I do watch it now, though. I sit my son down and go, you're watching this shit. And my son is the kind of guy, he wants to know what happens at the end of the movie. He goes, Daddy, tell me Rocky's going to win. Tell me he's going to win. I go, you got to watch it. You got to watch it. He goes, I don't want to watch it. Tell me he's going to win. He's like, he wants to know the ending.
I'm like, no, watch it. Rocky's a great, that holds, by the way, still holds up.
Rocky IV? Are you kidding?
Rocky IV? Dude, Apollo dies in the ring. Apollo dies in the ring and there's no EMTs, no doctors. It's just Rocky holding his head going, it's like the dumbest shit. There's no EMTs. There's no EMTs. It's just Rocky holding a dead boxer. It was the biggest fight in history. James Brown walked out. Across the nation. Remember that shit? It's the biggest Vegas and they have no doctors.
No doctors.
And then fucking Drago's just standing there going, if he dies, he dies.
You can't save anybody from Drago, bro. There's no doctor in the world.
But the thing that holds up over all this time is sports.
Sports holds up. Sports really hasn't changed.
You know more about the stars, but at the end of the day, it's pretty black and white.
I would put Marvin Hagler up against anyone alive today.
Or a young George Foreman? Or a young Roberto Duran? How would Hagel do against someone like Canelo, Bivol? Oh my god, it would be crazy.
His technique was fucking... Marvin Hagel was unstoppable. He only had one knockdown in his career, it was bullshit. He got knocked down by Juan Roldan, but he kind of cuffed him on the back of the neck and he slipped forward and they called it a knockdown.
Argentina, while I'm rolled down. That's right. Hell yeah. He was a tank. The 90s boxing? I think I was a tank. What boxing matches in the 90s had a little question mark about, like, damn, was that rigged? There had to be rigged fucking boxing matches in the 90s. There had to be. He has to go around.
We're talking about great real things.
No, there had to be rigged. Because now- Football being rigged now is bigger than ever because now NFL is all in with DraftKings and FanDuel. So it's all over the internet that football is rigged, right?
It's bigger than ever. Yeah, but it's rigged by the refs giving favorable calls. Like the Chiefs, they're good for ratings. The Lakers, they get more calls than any other team.
And everyone's analyzing all the calls. Now look at these calls. Jamie, it's bigger than ever now. It's huge. It's viral that NFL is rigged by the refs.
Well, didn't some NBA refs wind up going to jail?
That's what I'm saying. One guy they found out, he was born and raised in Boston. His whole family grew up huge Boston Celtics fan. Whenever he was the ref for the Boston Celtics, their numbers were wild. He got fired. Yeah, he got fired.
Hey, boys, my flight's in two hours. Is it really? Holy shit. What time's your flight? We've been here for four hours.
Oh, our flight's at both of them.
We've been having fun. It's both of them. I had no fucking idea. We've been having fun. Damn, it's fun. The airport's 15 minutes away. I miss this hang. I miss this hang. I know. We don't get it in LA.
The OG hang.
You know, a couple times I was sitting here just listening to you guys fucking ramble. Nonsense. CIA bullshit. Propaganda. And I'm also like, damn, this is like a virtual reality 3D replay. How many have we done? It's like in time. It's real. But it seems like, damn.
We're part of a fun thing. How many have we done of these? I don't know. It has to be a hundred.
It has to be.
No, not a hundred.
How many, Jamie? Fifty?
60?
We've done that many.
Yo, when someone told me, he goes, you know how many times you've been on JRE? I swear to God, I guess like 15, and thinking it's a lot, 15 to 20, I'm thinking, how many times you've been on JRE? I'm like... 20, 15? They go, dude, 85. I'm like, what? I think Sean's the most times of anybody. He's number one. He's number one and up.
And when I heard that shit, I was like, no fucking way is it 80 times. And it is. How is that possible?
You guys are one, two, and three.
I get a kick out of it with Joe. I don't know if you get this. I get so many people who call me up. They're like, bro, what's up? Good. Dude, we got this thing. I'm like, oh, here it comes. He goes... it'd be a great thing for Joe. And I'm like, and you could make money too. I'm like, every time I go like this, watch this, watch this. If I get pitched, I go like this. I go, I go, okay, okay.
I got to call him right now. I'm calling him right now. I'm calling him right now. I got to go. I'm calling him right now. I'll call you right back. I got to call him right now.
Brian Callen never changes his cell phone. These are the same cell phones at the beginning of time.
You know what's crazy? As many people that try to contact me to get to you, there's all the people that I know, people are contacting them to get a hold of me to get a hold of you. Oh, yeah. Right? You know what I'm talking about? It's crazy. It's fucking weird. It's crazy.
Bro, it's crazy for me, too.
Because they know if it gets on JRE, you're going to be a millionaire, right? Of course. Basically, that's what they think. Everyone thinks, like, if I can just get this product.
But what's wild is that we've all been on there so many fucking times, I don't even think about it. But it's never been different. No. Like, right when we sit down, I'm never nervous. It's exactly the same. This is the same. Yeah, it's always fun.
It's the same shit right here. It's always fun.
Because we're not trying to sell anything.
We're having a good time. We've been friends for the beginning of time.
I've been friends for you for almost 30 years, bro. I met you in 98. You know how crazy that is? You and I met in 1996, bro. We're closer to 30 years. That's what I said on your birthday. I was like, you and I have known each other for a fucking 20 years. And here we sit, talking mad shit.
And Trump, you know what the crazy thing is? Sam Tripoli was on before Trump, and then I'm after Trump. You're sitting in the Trump seat. You're the first guy to sit in that seat since Trump. Oh, really?
Yeah, you got Trump energy.
By the way, plug for Sam Tripoli. If you ever see him in your fucking town, go see that guy. He's a special. He's a real comic. What's his special called? Yeah, check out Sam Tripoli's special.
Love that dude. I've been friends with Sam for legit the same thing. One of my favorite people. I think I met him in 98.
Sam Tripoli, I've said this many times, is one of the greatest people on Earth. And a great comic. I love that guy. He's fucking hilarious. All he does is try to help people.
What's it called?
Quiet.
Watch Sam Tripoli. Quiet.
That's perfect. I went to it. I watched it.
I was fucking dying. That's a great day for a special.
Quiet.
He's so silly. And you know what? I'm opening for him February 6th, 7th, and 8th, Columbus, Ohio, Pottsville, Pennsylvania, Potts Town, Pennsylvania, and then Morristown, Jersey, and his club, the Dojo. Dojo of Comedy. The Dojo. We're doing that. Does he still have the dojo in L.A.
as well?
The dojo of comedy in Morristown, New Jersey? Dude, that place rocks, dude. That place rocks, dude. You gotta go there. Seriously, dude. It fucking rocks.
Yeah, there's room for more clubs in Austin. We're talking about opening up another one in Austin. Jesus Christ.
Like a little baby one? We're so jammed up. hard to compete that Ben Bankis that kid he just moved here he was so Ben Bankis I was in Calgary he's fucking funny that motherfucker got up and did like 10 minutes I was howling he came off I was like bro you're the fucking real deal he's very funny Canadian cat Yeah, great guy.
Very, very, very funny. And a good dude. Oh, yeah. He's funny, man. Has your boy Nick been at the Mothership? He's so funny. That's my next feature. Nick's a fucking monster, too.
You met him.
You liked him.
Yeah. Nick's a monster. Yeah, good guy. Nick Simmons, funny motherfucker.
There's so many comics here now that it's almost too many, and we need more stage time.
We were talking about doing it.
So Red Band's club must be pumping. It's killing it.
Red Band's club is killing it.
Good for Red Band. Sunset Strip. Yeah. It's only two. How many doors down is it from us? Five. Five doors down. You must be killing it. Walk five doors down. It's Red Band Club. And it's a nice, big club.
Hundreds of people. And you're sitting here promoting it.
That's a beautiful thing. I do, bitch.
I set it up.
Come on, son. How do you? I own the place. Don't you think I know?
It's like when you ask, are you at the Sphere?
I'm like, bitch, I work there.
Hey, I was at the Sphere. You got to see it, Joe. I'm psyched.
What?
Are you going to come down for my special? Nah.
I'll be there. When is it?
What's the name of the special? I'm there January 11, 12, and 13. What are you going to name it? False Gods.
Oh, that's a good name. That's a good name. Beautiful. You're going to have a great fucking time.
That club is so fun. I can't wait.
The club is just set up the right way. It's all set up for us. It's like there's no consideration of anything other than what's best for the show. Everything was done with what's best for the show. Not to make more money. What's best for the comics. What's best for the show. Let's make it the most fun place ever. Let's make it legendary. But I want to do another one. I want to do another one.
You do? Yeah, I want to do one somewhere else. I think once we develop a big enough group of comics, and we're developing a lot of comedians out of there, too, because we have open mic night two nights a week, and we have a lot of showcase spots. There's a lot of spots where these really talented young people who move here get to go up.
And then they go on the road with, like, Duncan or Bryan Simpson or Tony will take them on the road. And it's like it's a real developmental cycle. And all the people that work there as door people, they all audition with their act. That's how they get the job. So they're all talented comedians.
Is that how they did the comic store, too? Yeah.
That's the same vibe.
Are you going to open it in Austin or somewhere else?
But different, because the comic store, you could just join. You could be terrible. How about somewhere? I think Austin first. I think we'll open up another one in Austin, maybe on the other side of Austin. And then we'll open up in another city.
I think maybe since Orange County, California is so red, you know?
The thing is you have to have a lot of talent there. So the way that this club worked because everybody moved here because everything else was shut down.
But they moved here. Right. They moved here. So if you find another spot.
So find a spot where there's already talent.
And not to give them a year to move there.
Well, not just that. Or the East Coast. Yeah, East Coast. I was thinking New York. You want to go where comics already exist but make it a super favorable environment. So they make more money there. It's easier. You set the club up so the comics don't get hassled. They have a place to hang out in the green room and talk to each other and talk shit.
And then you make it so it's just set up for the betterment of comedy.
That's it.
And you don't have to like, don't try, you got to do it where you're not trying to make money. You got to do it where you're just trying to like not lose money and put together a club.
That's it.
And if you do it that way, you could do it. That's what you've always done though, Joe. But it only happened out of a lucky thing. The lucky thing was COVID. Newsome.
You should give him 10%.
Well, it's not just Newsom. It was New York, too, because a lot of guys came from New York because they couldn't handle it anymore. Because New York was crazy. You needed a vax car to get on stage. It was a lot of bullshit. And so they came, too, during the whole nonsense of it, when you could do stand-up here indoors.
And so when we were doing the Vulcan, no one was doing stand-up indoors anywhere. And we were doing it every night. That place was hopping. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Monday night, kill Tony. It was hopping. Weekends, guys would fly in.
Vulcan's still happening? Yeah, Vulcan's great.
Yeah, Vulcan's great. We have so many clubs just on that street. Besides the Mothership, there's Vulcan right over there. There's the Creek in the Cave, which is fucking awesome. There's, what is that, Black Rabbit? Is that what it's called? Right, but they have stand-up there.
You've got Cap City, too, but it's a ways out.
Cap City's on the other side of town, but then you have Sunset, which is Red Band's club. It's only five doors down from mine. There's a lot of clubs just right there. That's great. And so there's a lot of stage time, but there's so many comedians, and they're just moving here all the time. And I'm always trying to recruit people, and I'm always trying to get people to move here.
And I feel like as people move here and we need more spots, we'll just expand.
Love it.
The whole idea is just to... This fucking thing should not be run by anyone other than comics. Yeah, agreed. We were influenced for so long by Hollywood. They dangled that carrot of TV shows and talk shows over everybody's head, and everybody changed their act, and everybody just became what they thought Hollywood wanted them to be so they could be in a movie.
The whole thing was to get a sitcom and stop stand-up. You know how many times I told that story?
And even on your podcast where when we first started hanging out like in 98, and I was like, damn, it was before Fear Factor, after news radio. And I remember like, damn, I'm hanging out with an actor. We're going to go to these fucking Hollywood parties. And I'd say, Joe, when are we going to these Hollywood parties? And you were like, fuck. Fuck those Hollywood. And I'm like, what?
He goes, dude, they're fucking piece of shit people. You don't want to go to these fucking parties. And I'm like, God damn it. I wanted to go to the party. I used to argue with him, remember?
Yeah. I wanted to go to the party. He never wanted to go. He and I used to get in arguments. He'd be like, why are you in this acting class? Because you got to fucking study acting. We were getting arguments where our girls at the time were like, what the fuck's going on? People at the other tables were like, I was like, fucking you got to study. He's like, whatever, dude. Do stand up, you bitch.
well i knew that you were really funny on stage and i knew that you were neglecting it because you were trying so hard to get tv shows i was like dude you're you you're worshiping false gods yeah yeah you you were always you were always comedy first i was tv show second even
Then you got Fear Factor. I remember we were going to do a private lesson. I was a purple belt and you were a blue belt and you wanted to learn some twister shit. And I showed you like crotch ripper stuff and you said, yo, I can't train this Tuesday or whatever. I got this fucking crazy audition with this show. They're going to sick dogs on people's shit. And I'm like, okay.
And then we started training again. Weeks went by. And you go, remember that fucking stupid show? Did they fucking want me, dog? And I'm like, oh, shit. That was the beginning of Fear Factor.
I came into the audition of Fear Factor banged up on edibles.
Yeah. Really? He did every show. Dude, those producers. I was on the set. He would bring me up. The producers and the directors, they just let Joe do whatever he wanted to. They go, you had lollipops. Remember back before? There was dispensaries. This was before. Weed was still totally illegal, but there was one dispensary in Englewood. No, you could get medical.
Medical weed was legal, and I had headaches.
I remember that place in Englewood. I remember that place in Englewood. There was one fucking place. Englewood Wellness Center.
Dude, do you remember when we stopped going there because the guy got shot? I forgot he got shot. That guy got shot. Yeah, the guy that used to take care of us there, because they used to do it only cash, because you couldn't use credit cards back then. Yeah, they shot that dude.
He had a lollipop during Fear Factor. Oh, yeah.
It was because I did the first four episodes sober, and it was so boring. And then I started doing it on edibles. I'm like, this is awesome. This show is so fun.
And you would think he would stop doing comedy because most comedians, once they get into TV, they fuck comedy up.
He got harder with comedy. Yeah, you and I were in New York, and I know that. You and I were in New York, and I remember the first time I realized you were getting famous. I don't know if you remember this, probably not, but I think you had done Fear Factor. It was after the first season. And we're walking, and a cop, two cops walk by, and the cop's eyes are this big, and he goes, Joe Rogan.
And you were like, hey, how you doing? And I was like, dude, fucking this is when it starts. And it was the first time we were on this show.
What it really was, was after the first season, it was hot. But after the first season, you did the Super Bowl halftime Victoria's Secret lingerie show, Fear Factor style. And we watched it at your house. Like, yo. I think it was Playboy Playmates. Whatever. Something like that. Yeah, Playboy Playmate halftime Super Bowl.
So he never watched Super Bowl in his life, but now he's watching the Super Bowl. It was the Rams winning, I think. And then after the Super Bowl, it was like fine. It was after like one season. Nobody went up to him, but we went to Baja Fresh. I'll never forget.
I love Baja Fresh.
We went to Baja Fresh. Right after the Super Bowl. And when we parked and we started walking, two motherfuckers, one dude, hey, Joe, in the car. And we're like, oh, shit. And then we walked like 15 more yards and another dude, hey, Joe. Like, oh. And we looked at each other like, oh, shit. Things are going to change now, dog. This is like pre-internet, too. Fame was still weird.
You didn't know it was real. Baja Fresh. Baja Fresh was like the change.
It was new, right? It was weird. It was out there. You didn't know you were famous. You weren't sure, you know? You kind of knew that the TV show was successful, but you didn't know what was going on.
But nobody was coming up to you. Like, nobody came up to you for, like, news radio ever.
No, I never got recognized. Goldberg, seven years or whatever, the fucking school, you don't sell tickets that way. You sell tickets off a podcast. You sell tickets off, you know, the internet.
Yeah.
Don't you think fame's tougher on your kiddos than anything? It sucks for the kiddos. You keep them away from it. Yeah, you don't want to expose them.
Some guys bring them out and show them to the world. Don't post pictures of them. Yeah, I don't think that's a good idea. But a kid being famous is the worst.
Has it worked out for anybody?
I've never seen one kid that became famous as a child and is cool and normal as an adult.
They're always a little scrambled. We always used to think, we knew that kids, famous kids in movies and TV shows, they always ended up fucked up and on drugs. We always knew that. Like, oh, it's just too much fame. But now we know why they're fucked up. Now we know why they're fucked up.
How many of those child shows? Those pedophiles.
That Nickelodeon doc? Now we know why. You know one of the ways that Nickelodeon weirdo got busted? He had people over his house, and he had a bunch of artwork from John Wayne Gacy. What? It was like showing it off, and someone on the staff was like, hey, dude, that's fucking weird. What? Yep, and that's when they started becoming privy to it.
What?
He had a bunch of artwork from John Wayne. Are you sure about that? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
All right, look at me.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah, yeah.
That's like that meme.
You sure about that? The CIA disagrees. I got a text on my phone that says you're lying.
No, that's real. I've got a direct connection to the White House.
But it wasn't like in his basement. It was like a centerpiece. Like one of the clown drawings.
You see we got that photo of Bill Clinton up now. Oh, yeah, I saw that there.
The painting.
Yeah, same one Epstein had.
Yeah, I love it. Oh, wait a minute. That's new? Yeah, we got that.
That's new.
The one in the dress in the blue dress?
Yeah, we got that now.
It'd be sick if you had the real one. Isn't it crazy that he turned on Kamala? Isn't it crazy that he turned on Kamala? Who? Biden?
Bill Clinton?
He's talking about vetting. If we would have vetted them, there wouldn't have been any murders. Like, whoa, what is that about? That is true. Bill Clinton was an old school Democrat.
Bro, Bill Clinton during the debates when he won, you go back and watch that, that was a master politician.
Very good.
I would have voted for him. He's so smart. By the way, he killed it as a president. The economy was booming.
Considered a formidable intellectual.
Meanwhile, Arkansas and all the drug trade, that was all him. I'll make the economy okay. Don't you think that all of those guys, when they get to that point, they're compromised? Yes, 100%.
He was the governor of Arkansas when all that shit was happening.
That's why he became president.
Yes. Especially before the internet, man, you had to be dirty for you to be playing the game.
I think some of them get involved and make a difference, and then you get to a certain level where you have to be compromised and you can't play the race.
But Eddie, hold on. Imagine you're playing the game and you don't even know the internet is a possibility. So you think you're always going to be running things like this.
Yeah.
And then, you know, like one of the questions that I asked Trump, the big one, was about the JFK files. So I was like, why didn't you release them? Because I told him, you had said publicly that if they showed you what they showed me, you wouldn't release it either. And so one of the things he was talking about was some of those people are still alive.
And I said, what you're implying by some of those people are still alive, you mean in the government? He essentially said yes. And I said, so what you're implying is they would be implicated in the murder of JFK. So the government is implicated in the murder of JFK. Some people that were involved, an intelligence agency or something that may be still alive, were implicated in the murder of JFK.
100%.
That's definitely. It's a huge reason they don't want him running the house. There's a lot of shit, man. Just the stuff they did with the 51 former intelligence agents that signed off and said the Hunter Biden laptop ad was disinformation from Russia. Just that alone.
Just that alone. That alone should change your whole mind. I always go to Occam's Razor like dumb, lazy.
Oh, don't you do this, you son of a bitch. Dumb and lazy.
Yeah, you know what I mean? He just said all in conference.
What about JFK, B? Bro, you better get on that flight before your handler starts calling you. He's texting me right now.
He's texting it right now, bro. He's like, listen, Brian, hold the line. They're saying hold the line. Hold the fucking line. Guys, vaccines are real. JFK was killed by Lee Harvey Oswald. That's what I'm getting. I'm just reading. I'm just reading the latest press report. Go shoot the red messenger and come see me in Buffalo at Helium November 7, 8, 9.
Do you have a website, Brian Callen?
BrianCallen.com.
Okay. Brian Schaub, what's up with your shows? Tell everybody about your truck show.
Yeah, Drive Fast All Gas, the second giveaway will be at SEMA. The giveaway goes live at SEMA. It starts November 1st. It's a Dark Horse Mustang with over 850 horsepower. Oh, shit. Yep. Roush Supercharger Launch Edition. Oh, shit. Full carbon fiber, GTD carbon fiber all over.
Oh, GTD. Yeah, it's dope. Oh, that guy does great shit. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, my goodness.
GTD is my favorite. Yep. You don't even know.
But November 1st, if you'll sign up at drivefastallgas.com right now, you get 500 extra entries.
How come there's only two guys here that really give a fuck about cars? Gay.
Just doesn't care. I don't have enough money. I got a Tundra. I got a 2015 Tundra. Those motherfuckers go a million miles. They do. Listen, they're the best. Toyota trucks are the fucking best. Now what?
I love Toyota trucks. If they said you have one car that's not going to get fucked with, I'd get a Toyota truck.
Dodge Cummins or Power Stroke.
Those are good, too. Those are good, too. I'm swapping the motors in my Hummers. Oh, shit. My Hummers. Look at this. Hummers. This ridiculous person.
They're cheap, dude. This is ridiculous. They got an electric one. They got an electric one now. Are you getting that one? You know who has that? Red Band has it.
Red Band has the electric one. It's the shit. It does wild. It crab walks, goes sideways.
Have you driven a real one with an LS4 engine in it? No. How long would those take to recharge? Like a Hummer, electric Hummer? That's probably going to take like 17 hours.
What do you drive?
All kinds of shit.
Do you drive mostly your Tesla?
No, I drive my Raptor a lot of times.
He has a Hennessey Raptor R. I love that thing. He has my favorite car of all time, GT40.
The GT4. Oh, GT40.
No, 4GT.
4GT, yes. 2005 4GT. I almost brought that today. What ever happened to good old-fashioned Corvettes? Corvettes are fucking great. There's a ZR1 coming out.
The new Corvette. The crazy one.
Just the regular Stingray is fucking incredible. They look like Lamborghinis now. And they drive so good.
Tony has one. It's fucking amazing. The ZR1's going to beat most hypercars.
It's going to be 1,100 horsepower from the factory. You know, I got allocated one. Oh, don't die.
Joan Crash.
Good chance I flipped that. What you got going on?
SamTripley.com. We're doing tinfoil hat comedy, like I said earlier. Columbus in February. Go see Sam. Pottstown.
The Jiu-Jitsu seminar. Tell everybody about the event.
Jiu-Jitsu seminar. Oh, I'm going to be in Richmond, Kentucky. 10th Planet Richmond and then 10th Planet Livonia. That's in Detroit. That's coming up in December. Look it up.
Look it up. But your resort, this whole thing.
JujitsuOverdose.com in December. Check that out. That's the Coachella of Jujitsu. I'm trying to do the best shit possible. That's all I'm trying to do.
I love you guys to death.
This was amazing. The best, brother. The best. Love you guys.
So much fun. I love you guys. I love you guys.
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