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The Joe Budden Podcast

Episode 814 | "Fight or Flight"

Sat, 05 Apr 2025

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This episode of the JBP starts hot, with Joe and Flip pressing Mel to tell the story of when she linked up with a group of Colombians to be a drug mule (0:54). Later, the room pays tribute to Val Kilmer (35:50) before Joe provides his honest thoughts on Adam22 announcing that No Jumper is going broke (41:22) and shares his latest ghetto exploits with tuna fish (1:10:57). In music, Sexyy Red’s “Hoochie Coochie” (1:24:52), the lack of up-and-coming stars in Hip-Hop (1:40:19), and Fulton Country prosecutors’ attempt to revoke Young Thug’s probation over some of his Tweets (2:01:51). The crew also discusses Ayesha Howard’s statement on Anthony Edwards’ alleged attempt to pay all of his child support up front (2:08:01), the mayor of Gary, Indiana calling out Joe over his comments on the city (2:26:07), Carmelo Anthony’s first-ballot induction into the Basketball Hall of Fame (2:32:51), and much more! Become a Patron of The Joe Budden Podcast for additional bonus episodes and visual content for all things JBP! Join our Patreon here: www.patreon.com/joebudden  Sleeper Picks:  Joe | Amerie - “Mine” Ice | Wiz Khalifa (feat. Gunna) - “5 Star” Parks | Nas - “We Will Survive” Melyssa | LÉA THE LEOX - “IFY”

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Chapter 1: What's the story behind Mel and the Colombians?

39.77 - 42.592 Melyssa Ford

And I said my shining, winning personality. And then here comes Flip.

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42.612 - 47.535 Joe Budden

Which has not taken that. Okay, fuck off. What Flip said, though?

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47.795 - 67.727 QueenzFlip

Tell the story that you told behind the scenes. How you ended up in some Colombian's car and they asked you to go to Europe. That tracks. They asked you to be a drug mule. That's so on brand, by the way. And you said, I don't know how I ended up in their car. You said you don't know how you ended up in a meeting. That's the part that's on brand. Then Poe asked you, were you on drugs? Yes.

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69.158 - 73.639 QueenzFlip

This is turning into a whole different type of podcast. I didn't know we was doing that. Can you please tell the story, please?

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73.899 - 81.662 Melyssa Ford

Okay, wait. Let me preface it with this. So we're writing on the board and we were talking about a couple of basketball players who got super duper scammed, right?

81.702 - 81.902 QueenzFlip

Yes.

82.102 - 94.486 Melyssa Ford

So then the next line is craziest scams you've ever heard or been involved in. So I'm going to ask, is this where we want to start?

94.506 - 122.491 Joe Budden

Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Because some of us, Melissa, Savannah... are not and haven't been scammers. So when you asked that question in the room, the closest I came was when fucking the feds was on big face. Oh, that's my man. The closest I've been to a scam is when the feds was on big face. We was on the half blowing it. Big Face, what up, boy? Big, Big Face.

122.891 - 123.772 Melyssa Ford

I miss you, boy.

Chapter 2: Why did Joe Budden discuss Val Kilmer?

716.081 - 717.703 Crew Member

Walking down the walk.

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717.723 - 736.131 Joe Budden

You don't remember me? No, I go. I used to do that. I thought it was just having a sincere and genuine heart. Until my girl must have gotten my cash out. Now you can't do it no more. This shit was like temple run. Yo, the fucked up part, you can't even have a sincere and genuine heart anymore.

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736.591 - 737.252 Background Speaker

That's true.

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737.592 - 751.84 Joe Budden

That's the tough part about this relationship shit, yo. You can't even send some of your fucking homegirls who might be in need a little 2K pack. A little random 25-pack real quick. Here, just for you.

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752.26 - 753.701 Ice

Just because it's Friday. Here, take that.

753.741 - 759.044 Joe Budden

Yeah, come on, man. Don't want nothing for it. Just hold up. Just trying to be of service, walking in the Lord's light.

759.4 - 774.974 QueenzFlip

You know what's even more fucked up, though? What, man? The fact that you still try to get it off at your age, number one, and your circumstances. Like, you just don't give a fuck. You are a belligerent man, bro. No, I don't do it no more. You're against the law. Like, you just go against everything. You know what you go through. You know when she pull up, she going through it.

774.994 - 778.176 QueenzFlip

I don't do it no more. Whatever she do, and you still try to get it off.

778.317 - 778.757 Joe Budden

I don't do it no more.

Chapter 3: What are Joe's thoughts on Adam22's business struggles?

1321.376 - 1324.877 Parks

Yes, okay. George Clooney was the worst Batman of all time.

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1324.917 - 1325.157 QueenzFlip

What?

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1326.578 - 1327.518 Parks

For real? Yes.

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1334.28 - 1334.4 Parks

Okay.

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1334.966 - 1344.994 QueenzFlip

I think Michael Keaton is the top one, but you can give it to Val for now. The rest of the piece.

1345.134 - 1347.756 Crew Member

Let's go, Joe.

1347.836 - 1357.964 Singer

You think that maybe it's over Only if you want it to go so bad Are you gonna wait for a sign?

1358.024 - 1364.685 Background Vocalist

Your miracle Stand up and fight It goes This is it Hey!

1398.211 - 1406.774 Joe Budden

All right, shout out to wherever you might be listening from. Shout out to the parents out there. Shout out to the children out there. Wait a minute.

Chapter 4: How did the pandemic change content creation?

1988.999 - 1991.28 Joe Budden

Oh, Tosh. My girl, Tosh.

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1991.3 - 1994.182 Melyssa Ford

Yeah, you didn't want to share the information, but it's cool. We found each other.

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1995.662 - 1996.983 Joe Budden

Somehow you find all my people.

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1997.083 - 1998.344 Melyssa Ford

I do. I do.

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1998.944 - 1999.324 Joe Budden

I do.

1999.824 - 2002.245 Melyssa Ford

It's a very small community out here.

2002.265 - 2003.466 Joe Budden

That's that fight or flight shit.

2003.506 - 2006.147 Melyssa Ford

Shout out to Tosh. Shout out to Tosh.

2006.547 - 2007.088 Joe Budden

We love you.

Chapter 5: What happened with Mel's Gracie Award journey?

3239.475 - 3244.017 Ice

I may not make this year. Or the year following that. This may be a peak or a spike right now.

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3244.037 - 3253.941 Joe Budden

Or the year after next. Or people just didn't plan that way. Niggas is used to spending money before it comes. Instant gratification.

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3253.961 - 3272.858 Melyssa Ford

And also the optics. You know, he wanted to show the optics of extreme rapid growth. You know, so expanding to the purchase of the building and then the huge staff and that sort of thing. Like the optics allowed him to, you know, kind of like be as boisterous as he was towards you and everybody else.

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3273.218 - 3275.841 Parks

Exploits. And the content shifted too, not for nothing.

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3277.302 - 3283.396 Joe Budden

Well, yeah. And then that part, yeah, content changed. It's not just the world changed and the economy changed. Content creation change.

3283.416 - 3291.641 QueenzFlip

The young streaming niggas came in and... And they kicked ass. They kicking ass. They just released what Kai made from January to February.

3291.921 - 3292.181 Joe Budden

Yeah.

3292.601 - 3293.602 QueenzFlip

They busting the ass.

3293.862 - 3301.807 Joe Budden

They making it tough. Extremely tough. I ain't gonna lie. If I see this Speed nigga do another backflip across my phone, I don't know what I will do.

Chapter 6: Why did Joe Budden crave tuna fish?

3878.808 - 3881.509 QueenzFlip

So, you know, there's definitely... You took it to a dark place?

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3881.529 - 3883.39 Melyssa Ford

No, I'm sorry, but there's definitely a reason why.

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3883.41 - 3885.452 QueenzFlip

God damn it. We're talking about... You just can't help yourself.

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3885.552 - 3892.656 Melyssa Ford

If we're talking about homelessness, then, you know, we've got to talk about all the factors. But back to, you know, back to kicking Adam's back in.

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3893.036 - 3904.008 Joe Budden

Wait, yo. Damn. No. Because, like, what... Not at all. Do you know that you can't... We was talking about homelessness. Are you trying to slip it in, too?

3904.068 - 3911.156 Melyssa Ford

That's what she said, by the way. A lot of women get... Girl!

3911.257 - 3913.339 Joe Budden

This is a family happy show.

3913.359 - 3915.422 Melyssa Ford

Back to kicking Adam's back in. Go ahead.

3915.967 - 3931.093 Joe Budden

Okay, but no, before we get to Adams, kicking Adams back in, and before we get to our prize picks, prize picks gang, I'm coming, I'm coming, I'm coming. But on the topic of homelessness, I must continue to spoil the show Good American Family for anyone that's listening.

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