Adam22
Appearances
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
It's not to say that Europeans or Americans or white people have everything figured out and there's these savage tribes of people all over the world that are doing the other thing. It doesn't have to be viewed as our culture as a whole being superior, but I definitely think that you can take a look at what other people have going on and be objective about it.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
So I read a lot of different authors, philosophers, people who talk about, you know, what the good life is and kind of debate those things internally or have conversations with people about that sort of stuff, about what right and wrong is. For me, it's like, That kind of thing is so simple in a way.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Like the idea of like, you know, the example I just used, like, yeah, it's bad to cut your daughter's vagina off. That's pretty easy for me to deduce that that's all bad. But, you know, I feel like those kind of conversations like, you know, I'll even give you an example. There's like a.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
a female podcaster, I saw her at an event a couple months ago, and off the top of my head, the first thing I thought of to mention to her was a video I had just seen, basically, that was very, very negative to her, and I just mentioned it to her right away. I'm like, God, I just saw this video about you, this is crazy, did you see that?
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And I could see it in her eyes right there, that she knew what I was talking about and it hurt her feelings, And then I brought it up to my wife, and she just said to me, like, well, you probably shouldn't put that out, right? And I hadn't thought about that until that moment. Up until that moment, my mind had solely been on, like, having a viral clip viral moment.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And she said like, you know, you don't have anything against her. Why would you, why would you bring that up? Like, you know, that that's for sure. Like she's going to feel bad about people seeing that and you're going to look like a jerk as a result. And I thought, Oh, like that is a good point.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I'm so glad that I have you in my life to check me when I'm sort of riding this tide of ego of like, Oh, I'm going to get this viral clip out. And she sort of said that. And I, you know, right there, that's just like a little, uh,
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
chunk of you know deciding what was the right or moral thing to do in that moment and obviously I get it wrong frequently I'm sure but yeah I think that that you know even with someone like my wife who's not you know a philosopher she's not trained to have these sort of conversations I think anybody can kind of sort out what they think is right or wrong.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
right so i mean i'm uh from nashville new hampshire which is a small suburb of boston about like 45 minutes outside boston and grew up pretty normal my parents my mom was a librarian my dad was a social worker i got a younger sister she's three years younger than me um and i was pretty much just like an angry sort of troubled kid uh i started riding bmx bikes though when i was like 12 or 13 and that pretty much like became my whole life at that point and uh
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
no yeah i mean that like catch a fade thing is is crazy because i know a lot of people where that's kind of like how their mind works or it's like if if we have a serious enough disagreement or if you've disrespected me to such an intense extent then we should actually physically fight because that's the only way that we're gonna get over this tension between each other which to me is
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
is crazy i don't really understand it i've never been the type of person who felt like i had to like fight with my friends in order to like get through some stuff you know for sure i've gotten in fights with my friends over the years um but i always thought it was like a pretty regrettable decision and it's like
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
If somebody is capable of disrespecting me to such an extent that I feel like the only way that I'm going to feel better about this exchange is if we actually just throw hands, I don't even think that's a person that I want in my life or a...
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
conversation that needs to be had i don't think that that really makes a lot of sense to me i do understand that like two people can be so close like with brothers i see this all the time people are related or they'll they'll end up feeling like they have to fight to get over something um for me that's just kind of foreign you know like i'm a podcaster i feel like
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
If I'm going to, if we're having a war of words, I should be willing to lose this war of words. If that's where it's going, not like have to switch it over to like, well, we're going to move past talking to fighting now because you know, like what if I'm friends with Mike Tyson, you know, he's going to beat me up a hundred times out of a hundred. It's like, that doesn't prove anything.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
He could still be a hundred percent wrong in the argument. It's like, just cause he is capable of beating me up. Doesn't say anything about it. You know, it's like, uh, and in comparison, you know, I have a kid, like my, my daughter. Yes. If, if we decided that me and my daughter needed to fight to solve.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I mean, that's like, that's not taught teaching her anything about the world that I would want to teach her. If anything, you know, you see that with kids all the time, like you were saying, where they just, they'll smack each other in the face. My daughter's four, her and her cousin who's also four, she'll punch her in the face or smack her upside the head if she tries to take her toy.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And it's like, you know, you see that right there or when you see it that like one kid will try to hoard the toys and like take all the toys and put them to the side. Like, no, these are mine.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Like you see these sort of like billionaire instincts that like a lot of, uh, you know, adults sort of express where like the desire to commit violence, to get your way or to, to, um, you know, to be selfish.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Like these are things that like you have to unlearn as a kid because that's kind of like human nature to be this like really greedy, shitty version of a person in order to, uh, you know, be, uh, the most dominant in a society. I've had people try to argue that to me before, that human beings, that their nature is inherently good.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I do think that it takes some coding, some reprogramming in order to make people actually... act like that. People don't really come out of the womb. And that's how I understand Christianity, honestly, is that I look at Christianity as a very early version of man's attempt at understanding the world around them and creating a coherent moral code at a time in which
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
rode BMX bikes for like 10 years until I was 22 and then I started this BMX website called The Come Up and that within like a year just basically became like the biggest BMX website and did that for about 10 years and then in my early 30s I was living out in LA by this point I had a bike shop downtown LA
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
The moon being full was probably this really shocking thing. Now, I could literally ask Chad GPT right now, what's going on with the moon? Why does the moon look different all the time? There was an earthquake last night. I'm able to perceive that earthquake as just being...
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
something that takes place occasionally uh and and not you know being mystified by it but you can imagine at the time that the bible was put together that the world probably seemed unbelievably scary whereas right now the world seems Scary in its own right, but also fairly easy to understand in comparison.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Because human beings also are the ones who've invented the same rationale that we're talking about, which is to come up with a coherent moral code and to come up with something like the Bible or to come up with all the different belief systems that basically allow people to live moral lives.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Human beings invent those too, but I think our primary instinct is to basically solve all of our problems through force, violence, whatever it may be. And yeah, that's like, you know, when I think back to being a kid, when I think about being 16 or 18 or whatever, it's like the world seemed very scary and strange and I was doing a lot more
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
contemplating of what was right and what I should be doing to live the best existence. And when I think about my life now, it feels like everything is solved in a much more specific way in the sense that rarely am I grasping at the right way to handle a situation because I just feel like I have so much more life experience that now I'm kind of just playing the game of
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And basically, like, was around a lot of underground rappers as a result of just going to clubs and parties and stuff like that. And just sort of started interviewing some SoundCloud rappers. And then all of a sudden, SoundCloud rap became huge. And that kind of was just my...
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
life consistently as you know now I know what I'm doing with my life whereas when I was 16 or 18 I was trying to figure out like what what am I gonna be what is my life yeah and at that time even though I'm talking about myself understanding that I was an atheist from like you know 13 it still felt like there was a lot more uh questions that went along with that even though I was uh as a grown man now it just feels like a lot yeah a lot more simple
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
So I don't think about what happens when you die. I think that as human beings, nobody has ever really died and then came back. I know people die and come back on the emergency room table and situations like that. But it's not the same thing. It's not exactly the same. And I feel like...
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
It's almost kind of silly for people to contemplate what happens after you die because we just have no real way of knowing. And so I do think that religion is kind of like the ultimate comfort blanket, safety blanket that makes you feel better about everything because it gives you this understanding of what... is going to happen to you after you die.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I just think that it's mostly people just kind of making stuff up and improvising and really talking a lot about what they think should happen when you die or what would be cool.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Like I always have this sort of fantasy that I'm going to die and then I'm going to sit in a movie theater and I'm going to watch this extremely long in-depth movie about my life and I'm going to relive all of these critical moments
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Decision points and I'm gonna get to see how cute I was as a kid and I'm gonna get to you know Whatever like in my head that would make sense, but also it just seems like this is clearly like tailored To what I would like to be the situation if I were to die And I don't think that it really makes all that much sense that like, you know Cuz I don't think most of us think that that's what happens to animals You know I when I think when when my cat died My cat died and that was the end of the road and it was one of the hardest things I ever had to go through but
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
entry point into the game and now I've been running No Jumper for just about 10 years and I interview a whole plethora of different rappers and all kinds of different personalities. And then I also do a podcast with my wife called Plug Talks, a porn podcast where we interview a different girl every week and then sleep with her on camera.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
The cat dies and that's just how life goes. I think about that a lot of times with my dog. I'm nuts over one of my dogs. The other one's alright. My one dog, Ralphie, I just think about that like, God, I'm going to be so sad in 10 years when you die. I know that's coming. It doesn't stop me from loving you right now, but
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I don't... To me, it just seems like wishful thinking to just assume that there's something after that.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
So presumably a large percentage of your audience is not terribly in favor of that, but that's basically what I got going on, yeah.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Yeah, I started interviewing rappers in like 2013 or 2014. And then, or excuse me, BMX riders in 2013 or 2014 and then BMX riders in 2014. or rappers in 2015. And yeah, it has been kind of insane because I had so much anxiety and stress associated with getting into doing podcasting. I was just kind of scared to be on camera. Didn't know if I was going to be good at it or whatever.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
But how does that even make sense? Like, how does... I don't know, it's a nice idea that all you have to do is love God and that that's gonna basically be the solution for everything in your life. From my perspective, it's like,
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
When I think about how a logical God would behave, the last thing that an all-powerful being would need would basically be for the people in his kingdom to express their love for him. Why is that even a consideration? I go back to this logical God thing a lot, which is like,
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
if there was a god what would be the most logical way for him to act because if he really is perfect then we should basically be able to sort of deduce what god would want and and somebody said that to me very early on which is basically like well atheism is great because realistically if you get to the gates of heaven and if a logical god is sitting there and he asks you why didn't you spend your life worshiping me all you could have to say is well
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I tried. I tried to convince myself, and I wasn't able to believe. And now I'm at the gates of heaven, so I guess I do believe. But realistically, I don't think that you made it clear enough to me throughout my life because I think that a lot of people apparently have been swayed, but I wasn't. And I don't think that a logical God could hold that against you.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And I don't understand why an all-powerful God would really care at all about his people loving him. What does that even mean? What is it to love? a person or a being that you never see or interact with in any way aside from maybe sometimes feeling like your prayers are being answered or something like that. That never really added up to me.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
But Hitler could be in heaven too. All he has to do is love God and apologize and repent, right?
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And it just seemed like this huge undertaking. And now it feels like people just...
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And I was watching some religious debates prior to this, and I actually found out, which I didn't know, that most, or at least a very large percentage of biblical scholars don't actually believe that the resurrection literally happened. You don't think so? Well, apparently like most biblical scholars don't, which is, I mean, it is hard to believe.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
start podcasts like if you're an influencer or whatever just start a podcast it's all good it's no big deal so it's like it's kind of crazy to see it go from this very fringe thing where i remember when i started it was all all the comments were like you seriously think i'm gonna watch an hour and a half of you talking to this guy and now everybody seems to grasp that that's normal so yeah i feel like i've shifted more from music away from music to podcasts for some reason which is like it's so weird but like i like it who is uh who's been your favorite guest you've ever interviewed
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
It is like, you know, that really is like the one magic trick that if that's true, then okay, this whole religion kind of hinges on that, right? Like, I don't think that there's much to debate or discuss if you don't believe in that. But I found out while getting ready for this and watching some debates that actually that's like heavily contested by Christians.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Like what you were saying about how you can't just tell people that something is wrong. You got to explain it. You got to make it make sense to them. I have a lot of experience with that in recent memory with my kid because it's like you just realize very quickly, even at four years old, why do I need to brush my teeth right now?
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
doesn't if you say because i say so or because i'm the grown-up and i'm in charge it doesn't really do much to to convince your kid and and really you don't want to raise the kind of kid who's just going to hear somebody say because i say so you're sort of like asking for them to be the type of person who becomes a victim who gets taken advantage of if that's all the logic that they need in order to decide how they want to act you have to say
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Listen, your cousin has cavities. They take a drill. They drill into your teeth. You know how much you hated going to the dentist the other day? Picture with them drilling into your teeth. That's what's gonna happen if you don't brush your teeth right now, if you don't let me brush your teeth. You know, so it's like... You have to be able to logically make sense of things in order.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Like I'm imagining you probably telling your friends like, hey, vaping, drinking alcohol, these things are not godly. You shouldn't be doing these things. But to me, it not being godly is probably not really enough of an argument. I would go with the health argument or the... If you drink, you're much more likely to sin or to live a dangerous lifestyle for sure. I've seen that throughout my life.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Man, I mean the obvious one to me is XXXTentacion just because I somehow struck the lottery and just in 2016 just did an interview with him when he realistically was like almost nobody. He had like a couple songs with a million plays on SoundCloud, but it was like way before he ended up exploding and it was like very soon after that that he really exploded.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I used to drink all the time. Now I don't drink at all. I look at it as a huge waste of energy that I actually spend any time in my life doing that. One thing that stands out to me, and I hear your story about you. going through this experience in which you prayed to God and you basically like solved your problems that you were dealing with, with anxiety and everything like that.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And I can't help but feel, no offense, that it's kind of narcissistic because I feel like so many people throughout time and history have been praying to God and the vast majority of them, I feel like it probably didn't do a whole lot for them. And, you know, really like,
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
You're lucky to have been raised in a world in which the religion that you were raised with is one that generally has positive impacts on people's lives. You could have been born in India and you wouldn't even know what Christianity was.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
The same way that me and you, when we talk about Islam and it's pretty easy for us to not disrespectfully laugh at it, but to scoff at some of the claims or whatever, it's easy for us to feel that way because we didn't grow up with it.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
To me, I look at religion like choosing what football team you're into, which is like almost every single person likes the football team that they grew up around or the basketball team or baseball team or whatever. And as a result, they look at Cowboys fans. If you grew up out here, they're kind of crazy. But the reality is that...
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
the football team that you grew up around is no more moral or virtuous than the football team from people who live 10 or 15 hours away.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And I think that realistically, it's just, I feel like your worldview is kind of like, it centers yourself in the universe so much because the reality is is that all these kids growing up in the majority of the world that aren't growing up with Christian worldviews, it's just 0% chance that they would have become religious in the first place.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And I know we talked about last time that you don't actually think that little kids are going to hell because they didn't grow up around Christian influences and everything. But at the same time, it does feel like that's kind of where that logic leads you because most people don't have the benefit of growing up with the same worldview as you. And most people, when they pray...
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
nothing really comes from it. Like I'm sure as much as it changed your life, most people who do that, it doesn't change their life.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
If one of them decided to be Christian, they'd probably have a very hard life.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
blew up and so that kind of gave me the vantage point of like oh this is how powerful this podcasting stuff could be because you interviewed somebody in the very very early stage of his career and then you know a year later six months later he's like this huge name and i had every uh different rapper and manager like tapping in with me and i didn't know what to say or what to do all these labels tapping in with me and just like i basically like because of that interview i went from a
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
regular guy who had like a cool little thing going on to like, Oh no, this is serious. Like everybody taking me serious in the music game and everything like that. So that, you know, when I talk to people, it's kind of like sometimes they're YouTubers and they're like, how do I, get to where you're at.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Especially a God who has... in my view, not necessarily made it so easy to believe in him. I'm sure somebody like you would say, God doesn't announce himself to the world so clearly because he wants it to be a little bit of a challenge for you to believe in him. He wants you to have to really have faith in order to believe in him, which...
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
to me is a little confusing because I feel like when you're reading the Bible, there's so many overt acts that it seems like God was just kind of presenting himself to people all the time. And then when I look at my life, you know, I guess I've had like a handful of experiences that maybe felt like, wow, like what just happened was so statistically unlikely to have played out the way that it did.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And these people were spared in such a way that that's kind of shocking. And that almost makes me feel like, wow, that almost feels like God revealing himself to me. But then I've also had other situations like a lot of them where, you know,
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I've seen shootings where people died right in front of me where I was like, oh, if that guy had showed up to this party five minutes later, he wouldn't have seen those people and he wouldn't have got killed. And that just happened, just pure probability. And I feel like for me...
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
It just seems like if God, if it really was so important that we all believe in God, that he would probably make it a little bit more obvious to us.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And I'm like, honestly, you got to just keep playing the game and you'll just find these occasions of these things that just pop up. That'll be so much bigger. Like you could do a thousand interviews and then there could be one that moves your career ahead more than the other thousand that you did. And you just got to get in there and just keep going and find these opportunities, I guess.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
She's more of a Fashion Nova and Sheehan person.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
he could do that for anybody right and i feel like most people don't really get their prayers answered or like you know i remember like as a young kid like a lot of people sort of like conflate karma and like all religious beliefs like the idea that if you do bad things then bad things will happen to you and if you do good things good things will happen to you when i was like 14 my grandma died and she was like the sweetest person i've ever known in my life and she got cancer and she was like 80 or something so it wasn't really all that surprising
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
and uh you know i remember just looking at and being like well she as far as i could tell never did a damn thing to anybody meanwhile i know a lot of people who seem to be of you know horrible moral character who seem like they're doing quite well for themselves in life now granted some people might not be doing as well behind the scenes as they appear publicly or whatever but you know i just think like the idea that that uh
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
that your actions are directly related to what happens to you in life. I've seen just over and over and over that that's not necessarily true. And I feel like I'm kind of constantly drawn back to that where the idea that if you ask God, if you live a good life and you ask God to help you, that he will, seems to me like no. It's quite often that's not gonna be the case at all.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
yeah because he never did anything with anybody besides he did no jumper and then he did some random radio interview when he got out of uh uh jail at one point and then he was on some live streams with me and act after that but for the most part yeah it was like he was very anti interview and yeah i interviewed like a million people like after they kind of got famous but there's something special about that one because i just had like the one blueprint for who he was before he became like rich and famous you know
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Realistically, I think probably the biggest X factor was just the fact that they were... This is the religion that they were brought up in. They don't really know any other religion. And granted, they probably get a lot out of it, being part of that. Although I do look at my mom and it's like, she was going through this very hard part of her life and she really leaned on religion.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And then in comparison, the last 20 years of her life have been pretty chill in comparison. And I see her... basing her life around reading and going to Broadway plays. And she's really into movies and her friends. And she moves to Southern California and she joins a book group right away.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And when I look at her life, I'm like, oh, this is an example of how somebody could live a healthy, happy, secular life. And I see that with both her and my mom. And it is kind of surprising to have seen them go through that transition without ever really acknowledging that at any point they...
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
turn their back on religion, which is really, I kind of look at my parents like the way I look at a lot of the people in hip hop who I don't see as being terribly religious, but they do want to continue to specify that they are because it just feels like an important part.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Like to a lot of people saying I'm an atheist is basically equivalent to saying I am immoral and evil and I don't think that there is an objective right or wrong. A lot of people believe that by being an atheist that it would be acceptable for you to be a horrible person. For most people I know who are atheists, it's like the total opposite.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
That if anything, this is part of their search for greater meaning and trying to figure out what the right way to live your life is.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And me even saying the satanic Bible thing to a lot of people, like, atheist equals Satan worshiper. And people ask me all the time, like, yeah, so you worship Satan? And I'm like, no, I don't believe in Satan. Certainly, I don't worship him. Yeah.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
What do you mean? Tired of trying to be a good person?
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I did have Osama bin Laden on my shirt at that moment, and I think I said something about how I'm totally cool with the version of religion that you guys represent, but I do happen to have a shirt on with a picture of the extent to which I think religious beliefs can be harmful. Obviously, that's kind of complicated, but yeah.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Was that dude all right long run? Do you know what happened to him?
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I've had some friends over the years where they do that. They don't talk to you for nine months and then they hit you up and you realize like, oh, that was a fentanyl binge period of their life. And then they start talking to you again once they come back to real life. And that's always kind of extreme to realize.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And then I have one guy in particular I'm thinking of where I didn't talk to him for a couple years, assumed he was doing horrible. And then I hit him up and he was like, oh, no, man, how are you doing? I'm doing great. And I was like, oh, that's awesome. Maybe I should have reached out a few times throughout this few year period.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
It's like that's that's part of like L.A. has this reputation for everybody being very self-serving and, you know, people only have relationships to people who can help them in their career. And it's kind of like easy to understand for me why it is like that, because I feel like.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
This is a place where it's so dense population wise and also obviously I'm lucky enough to just have a giant social network that on any given night, I could probably think of like 100 people or like a couple hundred people that I could just hit up, have a phone call with, FaceTime call, go over to their house, chill with them, talk, see how they're doing, et cetera.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And instead I choose to do that with essentially nobody. In part because I've kind of just structured my life around working and then family and I try to be as binary as possible. People always ask me why I don't ride BMX bikes still and I'm like, I just got two modes now.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I got being a dad and then I got working and it's like, it's hard for me to get back into that mind state of like, Oh no, I'm going to just go hang out at the skate park. Even if I have friends that might want to go to the skate park and stuff like that. But, um, in comparison, if you live in a, a tiny, uh, town, like, you know, if, like if I had stayed in the town where I grew up, um,
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I would probably have the same five to 10 good friends from high school, and we would probably still kick it, meet up, talk about our lives, et cetera. If anything, I've had this opposite problem where I've just met so many people, so many people I've interviewed over the years, when I think about it, I'm like, That is an awesome person right there.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Why have I not hit them up and talked to them in the last four years? Probably because I'm just so busy and so many different things going on. I don't feel like I need somebody to just chat with. And that's really unfortunate.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
That's part of what I kind of resent about having taken on this life as a podcaster where when I think about in 2010 when I was just a BMX rider, I might have had a couple hundred friends And I would stay in touch with them. And I knew them very, very well. It's just the BMX community is like a little family like that.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And now it's like I've kind of gotten to this point where I might be interviewing a couple hundred people every year. And it just is so unbelievably hard to even keep them straight in my brain. I really kind of resent that. And that's like the one thing. I feel like before I became quote unquote famous, I was so much better at just talking to people.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
If I would just be around people, I would just have these in-depth, long, winding conversations with people, which is basically what I do on podcasts. And somehow through the level of attention that I get from people, and I really learned this because my period of blossoming into a person who was very, very well-known was while my store was on Melrose.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
So it's like, I saw it take place where I used to be able to stand out in front of the store and it would be all good. And then like fast forward a year or two and it's like, I can't even go hang out in front of the store because I'm going to have like, you know, dozens of people walking up on me and want to, and, and they, they, they, They interact with you in such a transactional way.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
They want to take a photo. They want to tell you about their music. It really kind of messed me up for years and years. And it wasn't until I was able to really fully take a step back from that sort of constantly living in the public eye space that I was able to sort of get away from that and sort of realize how crazy what I had been dealing with for the last few years was.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
push back towards christianity i guess you could say what what's your biggest issue with christianity that you just don't like um i think my main thing with christianity is i just don't believe it's true i don't believe that jesus is the son of god i don't believe that the bible is anything more than just you know a series of lessons that probably should just be taken that way i mean when i was a kid i was really raised in like a christian household and my parents made me go to church all the time and even as a real young kid i had this
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
No, no doubt. Well, we're not done, are we?
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Yeah, let's go. Let's go. Let's do it. You didn't even grill me about the porn shit yet. It wasn't much of a grilling last time, but I feel like there's got to be some stuff on the table here that the fans are going to feel like they want to hear addressed.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
So you can't get mad. My thing, too, though, is I know people who are religious that do porn. And I think from their perspective, it's very easy for me to understand their rationale, which is basically like, You know, people desire watching other people have sex. This is something that's like hardwired into us.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
The same reason why you wanna have sex with somebody is the same reason why you have a fascination with seeing people have sex. From the perspective of like a religious porn content creator, it's like, If there's if a person and, you know, if various people are taking part in consensual behavior on camera, what's the harm in them doing so?
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
If anything, I feel like there's probably a lot of I mean, I see these guys face to face when you go to the porn conventions and everything where it's like there's a lot of people who.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
probably would be struggling in life if they didn't have access to porn where it's like this is something that gives them some meaning and I say that having seen you know when you see Angela White at a porn convention and she's got a line around the building where to take a picture with her and get her to sign a piece of paper or whatever.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And there's dudes who fly all over the world and the country to wait in line to be able to say hi to her and everything. You realize that this isn't so different than a comic book convention or any other kind of fandom. And from my perspective, especially me and my wife, we are in a happy, loving relationship. And we sleep with other people on camera.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I don't think that there's anything immoral or wrong about sleeping with other people or having threesomes or whatever it is on camera. And I also don't think that there's anything wrong with partaking in the transaction of essentially selling that content to other people.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
almost like physical resentment towards going into that environment. I just kind of like sense that it wasn't for me from a really young age.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
So to me, even if I were to convert to Christianity tomorrow, I don't think that there's any part of me that would want to stop doing porn. I don't really even see how the two are related. Sure.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
When I was a kid, we didn't have the internet. So it's like there was a couple of different times. There was actually a park right near where I grew up that was called Greeley Park. And a couple different times I would see shady things going on in this park. And one time I kicked a bag. Me and my friend were walking through this park and I kicked a bag a bunch of times.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And a sex toy essentially fell out of this bag that I was kicking. And I had never seen anything like this. So as a kid, I'm like 10 years old. I'm like, what the heck? You know, blew my mind. And then it came out in the newspaper years later that like, oh, this park is the gay hookup park. AKA like dudes would meet up in the woods and do their thing or whatever.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And there was a couple other times I remember like I had a friend who found like probably a stack of 20 porno magazines in the woods. And he would like keep them in this plastic container in the woods and we would like ride our bikes over there and look at them sometimes. But yeah, that was kind of like how I got introduced to it.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
But then as I started to get older, I started to realize that a lot of people weren't really as serious as I was about it in the sense that like I looked at the teachings of the Bible that I was learning about in Sunday school or whatever, even though I didn't, I wasn't like,
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And then obviously the Internet kind of kicks off when I'm like 12 or 13. And then it kind of, you know, even at that time to see like a single person.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
image of uh porn online was a bit of a challenge to like download it or whatever and then i always had like what i would call a healthy relationship with it um in the sense that i always felt like masturbating was kind of like a stress reliever um that was generally pretty useful in my life um in the sense of like you know if you're going to school and you've got all this
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
sexual energy and tension built up in your body. If you could masturbate and it takes you four minutes and it goes away, I've always felt like that was a pretty good thing. And even going on a date with a girl, I feel like it's a bad idea to go on a date with a girl if you've got all the sexual energy built up in yourself. I'm a big fan of
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
masturbation as like a mental health device to basically uh make yourself cool off a little bit uh mentally and still i feel like i have that kind of relationship with it where it's like you know a lot of times i'll just do it before i go to bed it takes me five minutes i feel a little bit more chilled out laid back boom i fall asleep like a baby and when i uh
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Sometimes I'll talk to girls, especially girls who do live streaming, camming type stuff, and they'll tell me these sort of bizarre stories about guys that are in their fan base and how they are masturbating many times per day. And I'm like, whoa, that is... I could see how that could have a hugely negative impact on that person's life.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I feel like I would probably cheat without porn. I don't know if you're on the wet dream team, but I did that before I ever mastered it, and it was like, oh, shit.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Chances are this person is not living a very healthy lifestyle as a result of the fact that he's pleasuring himself this many hours a day. But I never really felt even close to that. And even like I have a friend who a couple of years ago, he was like 21 and he was a bit of a nerd and he had never slept with a woman.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
and not that that makes you a nerd but he just had never he's not religious or anything but he had just never really had a girlfriend or anything like that and he ends up getting into a position to sleep with a woman for the first time and uh he basically like was so adjusted to masturbating to relatively you know extreme porn probably not that extreme but you know multiple people having sex with each other on camera and all this sort of stuff and once he got in the position to actually sleep with this girl he couldn't
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
you know get hard or like bring himself to do it and he came to me for advice and i remember like telling him like you you really need to reset your brain you know like this is not you've taken something that to me is relatively healthy or innocuous and you've taken it to such an extent that you like you know it's messing you up and uh there's like
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
protocols online for like what you could do if you really are trying to do that hard reset like including like you know it might be too hard for certain people to just go cold turkey and completely stop masturbating but you know how about you just look at a picture of a woman maybe that could be enough because that'll at least get you into the mind state of like like i think to a lot of dudes it's like if they only masturbate to orgies or threesomes foursomes etc and
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
they're unable to then like perform when they just have one woman in front of them which to me is crazy it's hard for me to understand that because to me the sleeping with one woman in real life like holy shit this is the greatest thing I could imagine in life like this is such an amazing thing it never gets old it's actually like the one thing in life that
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
particularly thrilled about the church experience i still felt like okay i should be trying to figure out what this is all about and as uh time goes on and i started to realize like oh all the other kids that i am going to sunday school with aren't as serious about this or they don't think like i remember having a conversation with a friend of mine who was basically like
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
pleasure wise, I guess that just never really gets like less interesting to me, but I've always felt like I had a healthy relationship with it. And I feel like probably the ideal relationship for the average young dude out there is not to completely turn away from masturbating. It's because your body will do it for you.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I don't know if you're on the wet dream team, but I did that before I ever masturbated. And it was like, Oh shit. like that me as a kid, just realizing like, Oh, even if I don't do this, like it's going to happen, which is, was kind of shocking to me as a kid.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I don't think it's really about her being naked. She's probably got cleavage showing or whatever like that.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
But they could also go on their phone and spend about five minutes on Google and find videos of her doing the most extreme shit for free, too. It's not really about that. It's like... I would compare it to... Me and my wife, I don't think we really go through that at all because to us, it's like we know what our life is. We know what's important to us.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
you know, saying something about wanting to have sex with this girl. And I remember being like, okay, but you're not married. Like, we go to church. Like, you can't do that, right? And he was like, what? No, of course I would still do it. And I'm like, oh, so we both go to church, but I'm over here assuming that we gotta take the gospel literally.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Doing porn is really just like... It would be like the way that a baseball player probably feels at a convention. They're signing autographs. They're taking pictures. Maybe they're getting paid a little bit from each person or whatever. It's probably obvious right now. I've never been to a baseball convention, but I've heard about how it works and everything.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
But it's like those people who are coming through the line... Do they really care about you as a human being or like how your mental health is or whatever? Probably not so much. They look at you as like an icon, a famous person, whatever. And you get used to that being in the public eye over and over and over.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
You realize that you just straight up have value to people based on your achievements or the content that you've created or whatever. The same way that when people come up to me and take photos, it's like, you know, it can feel...
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
good it feels good but it's also like i know that a big part of this doesn't really have anything to do with me it's the fact that they've watched a lot of my interviews over the years just because i've made myself useful i've found a way to create content that means something to people and there always will be that one moment where i realize like oh this guy watches porn like this guy is a porn fan as opposed to like most people who come up to me it's like a rap fan
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
thing or like an interview thing so it's like for me that's that's kind of like easy to wrap my head around but i mean yeah it's like a lot of people uh i i don't think the average porn star is really all that uh you know, has a hard time dealing with it.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
If anything, you know, somebody like Angela White, who I mentioned, when I talked to her, she seems so unbelievably thankful to even just be living this life where she gets to make kind of a crazy amount of money off of doing stuff that she pretty much enjoys doing on camera. I would say that most of what she does on camera is not stuff that she's in any way conflicted about. She's mostly...
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
going to work and having a good time and seems like she's very happy in her private life and like you you can sort of cherry pick uh porn stars and find a handful of people who've had a really bad experience with this and everything i do feel like that's changed massively because we now live in the only fans era where most of these girls are their own boss um you you'll have somebody like lana rhodes or mia khalifa who kind of resents the time that they spent in the adult industry
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
notably they kind of got into the game and got out of the game right before OnlyFans became the default way that most of these people make a living. Because they famously, Mia Khalifa will say, I did all these scenes and I only made like 12 grand or 20 grand or whatever, doing all this crazy stuff.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
If she had started in the OnlyFans era, she would have been making many hundreds of thousands of dollars per month
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
and owned her own stuff been able to do exactly what she wanted and not anything more or less um so like i've personally seen that change in the adult world massively where it's gone from like the girls just kind of having to show up and sign on the dotted line and do the scene that was instructed that day and a lot of that would be them doing stuff that they didn't really feel all that thrilled about so where it's at now where
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And then I remember when I was like 13, one of my friends just like introduced me to the satanic Bible, which is by no means, uh, the entry point to atheism that I would recommend for anybody. Cause it's kind of goofy and ridiculous. And it's from like 80 years ago or whatever. But I remember reading it and just being like, Oh, okay. Like this is where I'm at. Like, I don't believe in God.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Most of the girls I know, they're living pretty good lives. Very tiny percentage of them have drug issues or seem like they're generally unhappy. If anything, when I see 10, 20 of these girls in a room, they seem extremely well-adjusted to me. Even with the dudes, mostly the same thing. I don't really know...
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
who are addicted to drugs like that, once in a while I'll hear about something or I'll find out about something and I have, to be totally transparent, I have lost a few girls that I was close with over the years and it's mostly drugs. Occasionally they take their own life or whatever, but I'm talking about- Why do you think they turn to drugs?
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
go to a sporting event it does seem like people are getting like an unbelievable rush and like the way that a great basketball player makes these people feel when they feel like they are the Lakers like if something good happens to the Lakers that is something good happening to me I know a lot of people who watch sports and it seems like that's kind of it but as far as the drug thing it's like you know I'm also in the rap game
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
A gigantic percentage of people in the rap game are either hardcore drug addicts or at least fuck around. And they drink a little bit of lean, they pop a Percocet, they smoke weed all day, whatever. I say that to differentiate the two because I know a lot of people who have a low-key drug regimen that they're kind of doing.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Or even if you think weed is a bad drug or alcohol or whatever, I know so many people who... That's just how they get through the day is that they're smoking and drinking like a significant portion of the day. I see the risk in it and everything like that.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
But I also don't think like, you know, when I think about the girls that I know who have died from drug abuse and stuff, most of it wasn't even intentional at all. It's just the fact that they.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
you know it's dangerous to do drugs in 2025 there's a lot of fentanyl going around it is dangerous it is pretty crazy like if i hadn't chosen to quit doing coke and xanax and all the stuff i used to mess around with back in the day for sure i would have probably decided to quit just because of what a minefield that stuff is these days sure for sure yeah so i think like with the
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I don't think any of this stuff is true. And I actually think that you can live a completely moral and, uh, you know, pristine life without the Bible. And ever since then, yeah, I turned my back on it.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I mean, to me, it just represents that I'm 100% committed emotionally and anything beyond that to the life that me and my wife are building together. To me, I did an orgy scene the other day. And it was like five girls that I'm actually friends with to varying degrees. But a lot of these girls are girls I've hung out around dozens and dozens of times. We're really cool.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
We follow each other on social media, like talking to DMs, everything like that. 0% of it is like... any kind of like weird sexual vibe or whatever, but at the same time, I'm totally attracted to them. And doing this orgy, you know, I'm able to like go into that environment, sort of switch over into this like different character.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And it was actually kind of weird because I feel like even though they've never admitted it to this day, I think that I kind of turned to my parents, atheists too, because I would just always be presenting them with the newest religious argument that I read online. Cause this was like the very early days of the internet where I'd be looking up stuff about atheism all the time.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I'm sleeping with five, six girls, including my wife at the same time. And there's other dudes in the scene as well. And to me, it's like, you know, If anything, it's very liberating to be able to enjoy that kind of scenario and to make content out of it.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I know so many rich dudes, rich and famous dudes, who day in, day out, they're doing all kinds of stuff to either cheat on their wife, girlfriend, whatever, or... to just sort of like maximize the amount of sex that they're having on a consistent basis.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And I'm talking everything from buying sections in the club to buying designer clothes to keep these girls happy to all kinds of other stuff, not to mention just taking risks. You know, one time, like famously, there was a picture that came out of Chris Brown And he was laying on a mattress with no sheets on it in a garage.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And it was super obvious that he had just met this hood rat chick on Instagram or something and just pulled up and was presumably sleeping with her. And he's just hanging out in this garage. And I remember seeing that and just being like, bro, this is how addicted to...
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
the P word, a lot of guys are, that even somebody like him who's got millions of dollars and he's famous and everything, he still finds himself in a garage in the hood just because he wanted to sleep with this girl.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And in comparison to that, me being able to get my wiggles out and just be able to have a good time with these girls and to make content out of it and to be able to afford to live a good life off of it
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
you know, it's hard for me to see the downside of it when, you know, I feel like everybody involved in the adult industry that I've worked with or that I have relationships with and stuff, they're very much like, they have a healthy mentality about it. And I do know that, you know, there's sex trafficking.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
There's, you know, I've never encountered anybody who sounded like they had any real involvement with that dark side of the industry. But for me, there's something very freeing about being able to have this sort of, uh, isolated space in which you could do freakier stuff and make content out of it and enjoy yourself like that.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And to me, it's like I understand why to the fans this is very exhilarating because, you know, most of them are people who aren't
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
physically confident enough or like people wouldn't want to see them do it or they don't have any interest in doing it or whatever so they kind of are able to take their everyday life they work at Walmart for eight hours and then they go home and maybe they enjoy themselves for ten minutes to this kind of content and to me it just like totally makes sense and almost everybody I know in this world has like a very
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
healthy relationship with it. And you mentioned these people are gonna get old and wrinkly. For sure, I'm not a huge fan of it, but I'm interested in bodybuilding and I always find it kind of fascinating that you see these guys and they look like gods on stage. They're just absolutely ripped, muscles pouring out everywhere, veins sticking out of them. They're 400 pounds of just sheer muscle.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And I think it kind of got to my parents, because when I really think about it, I haven't heard them really mention anything regarding religion in the last 20 years or so, even though if they were here right now, they would say, you didn't convince us of anything. Of course not. But I do think that I had a bit of that impact on my parents, too.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And then you see them a couple years after they stopped competing, And they look pretty crappy. You know, they're like the muscles deflate, they get off testosterone, et cetera. And like all of a sudden they just it's just not the same.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
But they still have people coming up to them wanting to take pictures with them, everything, because like to a bodybuilding fan, Ronnie Coleman, when he's 60 years old and he kind of looks like crap is like still they have a huge amount of respect for what he did in his life.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
The same way that you go to these conventions and you can see people like Sarah J or whoever, who's like super late in her career. Obviously her heyday was 20, 30 years ago. And you know, it's still like, believe it or not, the porn community, the actual performers is a real, uh,
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
community you know it's like even when you go to the awards show and you see all these people and they're honoring people who lost their lives that year and you see all these people cheering for each other and everything and it's like it's just it's a lot less dark than i think a lot of people assume when they're looking at the adult world from the outside and and you know it's like there is there are people who have bad experiences and there's people who um you know like obviously are
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
There is a certain group of people where doing porn is basically like their last resort. Like this is the last thing that they're capable of doing. Like if you're like a really bad... I don't want to say a really bad drug addict because if it was showing physically, you probably wouldn't be able to get work.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
But I've known girls who that's kind of like, oh, they're bad with the drugs and porn is kind of like what they're doing because they realistically probably couldn't do anything else. To me, that's like 1%. And those people usually are very much on the outer rim of this kind of stuff because I've been on a million porn sets and I've never seen anybody do drugs.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
If you are watching porn and thinking that this is like a step-by-step guide to what sex is like, for sure, you're going to be disappointed in much the same way that I think like if you train MMA and you think that the UFC is what getting in a fight is like, you're going to be let down in the real world.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
A fight oftentimes involves more than one person beating the crap out of a, of a single person. And it involves weapons and it involves hair pulling and eye gouging, all this kind of stuff. It's like, you know, I don't think I, if anything, I think that the porn world and really like society as a whole should be more specific about that to tell kids like, Hey,
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
This just because this is what people do in porn because it's the thing that looks the best on camera. I could tell you sex positions that people do in porn that almost nobody does in the real world. Like actually literally nobody does in the real world because they're just kind of painful, kind of weird, kind of awkward, but they look really cool on camera.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And I think that, you know, that, that kind of thing I've had guys tell me like, Hey, I had sex with this girl and I did this and she was super freaked out and me having to be like, bruh, like you can't just do that with a girl and just assume that she's going to be on board with that.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I agreed with the part that this was anti-Christianity or anti-religion, doesn't believe in God. That part I agreed with. If you actually go read the Satanic Bible, it's filled with all this sort of goofy witchcraft type stuff. And it was written a long time ago, so I got to give them a little bit of grace.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I know that you've probably seen that in a lot of different porn films, but the average girl is not expecting you to do that for sure. That's the kind of thing that you should have a conversation about beforehand or whatever. Like, I think that that's something that the porn world should probably be more clear about with people for sure.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I just think porn is a fantasy and people should, if they're going to partake in it, use it that way. In the sense, I had a girlfriend when I was really young, when I was like 21, and her dad, her mom caught her dad looking at porn and she basically initiated a divorce as a result of this. And I remember being so shocked because it's like, He could have cheated on you.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And it was very influential on a lot of people, but for sure not the definitive guide to how to live a great life. But definitely kind of...
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
He could have done all kinds of stuff. Instead, he's sitting there on the computer for 10 minutes taking care of himself. It's a fantasy for women to think that a man is only going to be attracted to one person. I think that me and my wife, I know a lot of couples that are really jealous. They're at each other's throats about... about looking at people.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I know a dude who like, you know, I seen him and his girl on live stream getting this huge argument because he literally just like looked at a girl who had her boobs out in Vegas. Like, you know, he just looked and they get in this huge argument about it.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And in comparison, my wife can like watch me have sex with another girl right in front of her and be cool with it and like understand the pleasure that I'm getting from it. And it doesn't bother her, which is like, I'm not suggesting that everybody should be, become so calloused that they could have those kind of experiences and feel nothing.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
But I do think that that is something that probably makes our relationship more likely to survive in the long run. Just the fact that we don't have these little jealous things. That we could be watching a TV show and she could say something about how the main actor is handsome and it doesn't trigger me in my brain in the way that I know that a lot of guys might be bothered by that kind of thing.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Um, if anything, I feel like that, that the porn thing has made our relationship a lot more stealthy because we just sort of like a lot of that, that stuff just seems so silly to us. Like, you know, if, if my wife saw the top 10 girls that I've masturbated to in the last couple of years, um,
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
hit me at the time where I needed something to kind of show me like, oh, there's a lot of other people out there living different lifestyles and composing their moral code from, you know, a lot of different stuff aside from just the Bible, which I grew up with.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
she would probably be surprised by certain additions, but she would also, you know, it's like ultimately she knows that this isn't that serious and it's just, that's me. Engaging in a fantasy for five minutes out of the day and that it's not really anything for her to be worried about which Well, I think I don't think it's jealousy.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And I don't think that's as one-to-one as you might be portraying it. That was like a, for sure. Like, I don't think like if I'm really, really horny, I could probably like work out for a couple hours and still feel that exact same way.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And part of it too is like, you know, on Saturday night, I think I'm going to go out on a limb and say Saturday night was the last time I masturbated, which absolutely nobody watching this needs to know that. We were super tired from hanging out with the kid, doing family stuff all day.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
My wife, as soon as she gets done putting the kid down to bed with me, she gets on her laptop and she's working on answering emails, doing all this kind of stuff for hours and hours and hours. I went and I masturbated before I went to bed.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
No, for sure I think it's possible. I guess what you're asking is, do you think that there is a religion that incorporates the supernatural or something along those lines? Because for sure, when I've read about secular humanistic religions, that's a lot closer to what I believe. I just don't even really feel the need to put a name on it.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
It would have been weird for me to be like, yo, I know you're working really hard and you're exhausted and you're tired and you just want to go to bed, but can we have sex right now just because I want to? In that situation, I feel like me masturbating is by far the most... compassionate version of me getting what I want or what I need in order to go to bed right there.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Because she's clearly not in the mentality that she wants to, like, we're just not on the same page energy wise right there. So I didn't even suggest it or try. And I saw that like a real extreme version of that when we had a kid, because it's like, you know, obviously, uh, I mean, they tell you to have sex a lot while you're, uh, while she's pregnant, because it,
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
it'll basically like spur the kid coming out at some point not like physically but like i guess having sex is good for having the kid on time and everything like that but then even after that it's like she has the kid guess what she don't want to sleep with you for a couple months or like a month after that because it's like especially she had a c-section so she's all bandaged up here and everything like that whatever but it's like during that time period i can honestly say i probably masturbated more than any other time in my adult life because my wife wasn't really in the
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And you posted a picture of us on TikTok, and it got like a million likes, which really kind of blew my mind. And then I was reading the comments, and I was like, whoa, Bryce actually...
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
proper shape to be doing that in the first place. And I don't want to bother her when she's dealing with an infant all the time and stuff like that. And so it's like, I feel like masturbation is actually like a very beneficial, useful tool for a young man's mental health. And I'm going to include myself in young men, even though I'm 41. But to me, it's like,
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
It's a lot better to sort of remove that element of sexual frustration in this relatively simple way rather than to just sort of carry around that sexual tension inside of yourself that I feel like is ultimately not productive.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And so just when I do like the cost benefit analysis in my head, it's like, Me masturbating, there's no cost. There's no negative that comes from it. And then the benefit is that I feel a little better. Now granted, every drug has this effect where the first time you take... The first time, we keep it super simple. The first time you smoke a cigarette, you get a head rush. You feel kind of good.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
It feels like you get a significant experience out of smoking a cigarette that you probably, once you've been smoking for a year, you don't really feel anymore. You still crave a cigarette, but it doesn't really... benefit you in the same way. It's really just kind of makes you feel normal.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And masturbating is kind of like that, too, where it's like, you know, once you get into the habit of doing it on a consistent basis every night or whenever it is, it stops really being as much of a
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
you know stress reliever so much as it's making you just sort of feel normal which is just kind of like a risk associated with that and especially when it comes like hard drugs or whatever and I'm putting masturbation in the same bucket as all these other sort of vices that including ones that I think are really dangerous as opposed to masturbating which I think is like way less dangerous well you could say masturbation's a vice because it is an outlet for people to let loose but and and so that's why I'm like oh you know I I just think
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I remember being a young kid, and my dad got locked up in the feds for a year when I was 12.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I keep using the gym as an analysis because that's just if you had no testosterone, you would not care to masturbate. So, yeah, it is kind of equivalent in a way.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
No, because I feel like I want her to be better than us. And when I look at our careers, I feel like we kind of got into doing the adult stuff in part because it just seemed obvious to us. It was easy for us. It was like something we were clearly comfortable doing. A lot of times I look at girls who become influencers now or whatever, and they don't really see the benefit of it.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
and he was basically on trial and in the media dealing with uh these charges because i'm in like a small town where it's like that kind of stuff it was like a mail fraud charge basically he was like accused of using his uh role in the local government he was an alderman which is really like kind of a small time role in uh in politics locally and then he also worked at this construction company helping them get jobs and stuff like that he was basically accused of like using his role
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Like when I went to the porn convention a couple months ago, it was like all the hottest girls that I met while I was there either do porn with their boyfriend or they just take cute photos and they don't do porn. It's like that option just seems like way more obvious than it seemed to me back then.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
That being said, a lot of the girls I know who do porn or OnlyFans or whatever, like somebody like Ruby Rose, This girl makes an absurd amount of money every month. She posts like bikini photos on her OnlyFans, you know, little booty photos or whatever, like basically stuff that is pretty on par with like what you would see on Instagram. And she seems perfectly happy.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I don't think that there's any kind of like negative mental toll that having an Instagram or an OnlyFans is taking on her. So, you know, Definitely, I would not encourage my kid to do that. I'm going to keep it out of her eyes or her knowing anything about it for as long as possible.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
But ultimately, if it came down to it and she wanted advice or she wanted to know what it was all about, at some point, I'm sure I'm going to be forced to have a real conversation with her about why me and her mom decided to get into it, why I think at the very least that she should wait until she's much more adult. Obviously, legally, you could do it at 18.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
it's kind of weird to me when I realized that so many girls I know like started doing it right when they were 18, because I know that it does close a lot of doors for you.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Like, you know, you're just not going to be able to be a teacher if you've done porn and it's all over a porn hub or whatever, you know, it's like really, there's like a lot of things that are just kind of off the table once you go into the adult line of work. So it's like, it's kind of complicated because it's like on one hand I see so many of these girls just having like really, uh,
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
good lives from doing porn and that they seem 100% happy and they don't have to put up with any bullshit and they're making a lot of money and everything like that. But at the same time, when I think about what I want my kid to do with their life, I think about you know, doing these public, uh, private school tours.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And there's girls who are like 17, 18 talking to us about what they learned in the school or whatever. And girls are talking to me about how they, they wrote a book while they're in high school. And they like, you know, did this science experiment and all this, obviously you would, you would want your kid to go into that kind of like more lofty world. But at the same time, you know, like,
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
If she wanted to do that once she got older, I wouldn't really be in the place to stop her anyway. By the time that she was legally able to, she would also be able to legally ignore whatever advice I was giving to her. I mean, I do have a friend who...
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
his he's very famous and his daughter doesn't have an only fans but when i look at it i'm like oh i bet that he's i bet he's like actually giving her money to not start an only fans because i think it would be embarrassing for him or his uh social network or whatever but when i look at her i'm like i'm shocked that she hasn't started one yet she's like 20 or whatever and uh
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I think that is kind of like crazy situation that some people might end up in at this point in their life where doing OnlyFans is so normalized. You got to keep in mind too that for every couple like us who's doing all the crazy shit you can think of sexually, there's a Ruby Rose who's like...
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
posting booty photos and i'm pretty sure you could like be on her only fans pay for every single thing offered to you in the dms and you're still never gonna see a nipple so it's like it's kind of hard for me to even put what she's doing on only fans in the same category as what me and my wife are doing on only fans sure but yeah i mean you know i'm not really worried about it either
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
in government to help get jobs for his business or whatever. He ends up taking a plea deal, doing a year. And I just remember during that time period, my mom really leaning on the church and the church being a big part of what kept her sane and mentally well during that time period. And I remember my mom explaining to me that that was why she knew that religion was for her.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Well, but it's like the same thing as like smoking weed. Like I go very out of my way to make sure that my kid does not ever see me smoking weed. Right. But at some point she's probably going to realize if I don't quit before she becomes cognizant of that sort of thing, she's probably going to see that and she's going to have this realization.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
the same way that she realized that like we told her alcohol is bad and then at some point she realizes like oh when we go to the family get together that some significant portion of the family is drinking alcohol uh you know it's like i am not longing for the day that she realizes that i smoke weed because that's going to be the moment where she realizes like oh
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
This might be bad, smoking is bad, but that doesn't mean that my dad is bad just because he does it or whatever. I think ultimately at the end of the day, there's some stuff that's just grownups can do certain things that kids can't. It would be very, very bad if my kid drove a car. But she sees me drive a car all the time. It's like a horror movie. It's like unbelievably inappropriate for a kid.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
But I can watch a horror movie. I can listen to music that has tons of swearing in it. I don't think that my kids should be listening to music that has swearing in it. We drove to school today. I dropped her off. We were listening to Dolly Parton. It's like there's a lot of stuff that's kid-oriented and a lot of stuff that's adult-oriented.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And honestly, even if it wasn't for the porn thing, I would be dealing with this sort of thing just from No Jumper.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
you know an average episode of no jumper you're gonna see people drinking smoking swearing talking about violence talking about sex talking about everything and that's the kind of podcast that i'm comfortable doing where i don't want anything to be off the table i don't tell people to hold back whatever you want to tell me it's on the table but uh you know it's like ultimately at some point my kid and i are gonna have to have that kind of conversation for sure
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And I said to her, I'm like, mom, You could have got that out of a bowling league. The fact that you had a bunch of people who were supporting you and emotionally sort of lifting you up, that's awesome. But that has nothing to do with whether what's in this book is true or not.
The Bryce Crawford Podcast
Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Now, I'm not a religious scholar, and there's a lot of people who really make it their thing to debate Christianity and to be able to sort of debunk the Bible or whatever. I don't really get into all that. That's kind of above my pay grade. That's actually why it's kind of funny even doing –
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Yeah, I've been thinking about it for a couple of minutes now. I mean, when I look at myself, it's like, I'm a person who has so much energy and passion to put out there. And so whatever I do, that's kind of gone in the direction of of content creation and like podcasting has kind of become the direction because I feel like it's
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
the best way for me to produce the most content or to have that relationship with the audience. Like I can't tell you how much happiness I get out of just reading the comments on everything I put out. Even this one, I'll be reading the comments and that's going to be super interesting to me.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Beyond that, beyond content creation, I just think I'm somebody who at this point in my life, I just have a huge amount of respect for the family dynamic and that's something I'm super excited about. We might be cooking another one up soon, which I'm super hyped on. But yeah, I mean, honestly, that is kind of a weird thing about it to just realize that if it wasn't
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
content creation if it wasn't podcasting it would be something else because for all those years it was nothing but bmx day in day out just me riding around with my friends just enjoying life just being outside and i you know i missed that to a certain extent because life was really kind of simple uh during that time period but you know yeah i feel like for me in terms of like who i am i'm just a a person who's obsessed with making content and trying to
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
you know, do the best job that I can in terms of making stuff. And then in addition to that, it's like you have this other layer, which is just basically family.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And that's, that's really the only two things that I give a shit about.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
these conversations with you, this being the second one, because it's like, I don't really even talk about religion. A huge percentage of the people that I do podcasts with and people that I interview and everything, they are Christian. To me, it doesn't seem like they take it serious in any meaningful way. They'll tell you that they pray, but I never really see them.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
has cultivated a pretty positive audience especially when you consider that i'm kind of on the total opposite end of the spectrum of what your audience would be into i was reading through it and i'm like man like it's kind of crazy how many people are excited to see us talk so i i couldn't blow it off and not do it again because i figured i gotta i gotta do it for the people
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
We'll be having a conversation in which to me, if you were religious, it would seem like, okay, this is the point where you're gonna start talking about God and it doesn't really come up. I feel like to a lot of people in hip hop, it's like,
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
impossible to imagine being like outwardly a non-believer i actually know multiple people in hip-hop who are atheists but would never say it publicly because it's so looked down upon in the black community and hip-hop to like be anti-religious i see what you're saying dang do you so do you want would you want god to be real if he was real Um, probably not the God in the Bible.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I feel like the God in the Bible seems like he's kind of, you know, not not the person that I would expect to be the greatest supernatural ruler of the universe. But I guess if I could.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
create a world in which there was a God who was basically like a judge, like the primary, he's like the one man supreme court of what's right and wrong in the universe, and if you could kinda constantly go to him and say, hey, like, you know, I have this dilemma and I'm not sure what I should do, can you tell me how I should go about this?
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
That sounds very useful, but yeah, I think it's kind of on human beings to figure that stuff out for themselves in a variety of ways, but if I could do that, yeah, or if there was a supreme God where I could say, hey, this dude is pure evil, you should orchestrate a scenario in which he spends the rest of his life in jail or whatever.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I mean, that would be useful, but that's not really how most people who are religious think that it works either.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
I mean, I think it just takes an objective analysis of the world and the kind of world that you want to live in. I remember last time we did this interview, and I promise I won't just say that over and over throughout this whole interview because it's going to be tempting. But I remember we talked about moral relativism, which is basically the idea that
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
Every different culture has their own idea of what's right and wrong and that people from our culture have no business telling another culture like, hey, this is messed up, this is wrong. And I don't agree with that at all. I think that the pursuit of understanding what the good life is is very much something that can be applicable to everyone. And I think that...
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
for instance, all over the world, there's female genital mutilation taking place, which is basically like young girls, their fathers or their families will essentially have their vagina sewn up upon birth or at some point when they're very, very young. And that's basically to ensure that they stay a virgin throughout their life. And this produces a ton of horrible health effects.
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Debating Adam 22 About Jesus (EP 86)
And I could go into even more detail about how disgusting the process is and Obviously I think that's just completely wrong and disgusting. And I think you can say that objectively about our society, if you were to find some rogue actor that was doing that, it would be just as disgusting, but also you could look at other cultures.
The Joe Budden Podcast
Episode 814 | "Fight or Flight"
Addition to that, we have... There ain't no addition to that, nigga. Rewind. ...is going broke. I know that might sound crazy. It don't. On both of our YouTube channels last month, we got over 25 million views. Man, it's nothing. We're doing well on Facebook and Snapchat.
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Episode 814 | "Fight or Flight"
We employ quite a few of the hottest content creators on the West Coast.
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Episode 814 | "Fight or Flight"
And we pump out an insane amount of content on a weekly basis. How could we be going broke?
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Episode 814 | "Fight or Flight"
We expanded too much during COVID at just about the exact moment that our revenue streams all took a hit.
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Episode 814 | "Fight or Flight"
We hired a whole bunch of editors and other employees, and we bought a huge office building that cost us almost $4 million. Horrible. Thinking that the growth that we were experiencing during the pandemic was going to continue. Why would you think that? Unfortunately, that did not happen. Our YouTube numbers, which had doubled or even tripled, gradually returned to... Let me pause this.
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Episode 814 | "Fight or Flight"
Hold up. We got taken down one day, and we still have absolutely no idea why. We've had no luck getting it back.
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Episode 814 | "Fight or Flight"
Our Snapchat and Facebook numbers, which had exploded during COVID, sometimes even hitting six figures a month, shrank by about 80% or more.
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Episode 814 | "Fight or Flight"
Our Patreon, which was absolutely killing it for a year or two when we were doing uncensored aka nude interviews with up-and-coming superstars like Kazumi and Sky Bree, fell off quite a bit with the launch of Plug Talk and a decreased interest in seeing us interview ****** stars.
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Episode 814 | "Fight or Flight"
In addition to that, you might recall that the channel took quite a hit when approximately eight of our hosts left the platform in March of 2023. Although we definitely largely recovered and managed to build up a very healthy roster of talent since then, that certainly took a toll on our business for a while.
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Episode 814 | "Fight or Flight"
All that stuff hurt the business, but we were still solidly profitable. Tell us how. Until the last few months where we experienced two major L's that we never could see. L, man. First... We lost the No Jumper Instagram after almost ten years of building it up and essentially no strikes on our account. We got taken down one day and we still have absolutely no idea why. How could they do that?
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Episode 814 | "Fight or Flight"
No luck getting it back despite being in contact with what seems like every paid my light and water bill with that one. We were bringing in a very solid amount of cash monthly that was keeping us afloat via selling sponsored posts on the account.
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Episode 814 | "Fight or Flight"
And that mostly vanished overnight. And while we've been growing the new No Jumper LA account up ever since and managing to sell sponsored collab posts using my Instagram and the No Jumper LA account, DM.