In this highly anticipated episode, Bryce sits down with Adam22 to talk about Christianity, the reliability of Jesus Christ, Morality, physical intimacy and more!
Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?
So go get your tickets at JesusInTheStreet.org slash tickets. Come to the Hometown Show in Atlanta on May 18th. Love you guys. Get your tickets and enjoy the episode with Adam 22. What's going on, guys? Welcome back to another episode of the Bryce Carver Podcast. I'm Bryce, and today... The guest that everyone has been asking for. We got Adam 22 on. What's going on?
Adam, thanks for coming back on. You guys don't know, but we had recorded an episode. The whole reason everyone's looking for it, we didn't bamboozle you guys. We recorded a full episode, and then we lost all the footage. And so it was so embarrassing. I felt so bad sending you a voice memo.
And you posted a picture of us on TikTok, and it got like a million likes, which really kind of blew my mind. And then I was reading the comments, and I was like, whoa, Bryce actually...
has cultivated a pretty positive audience especially when you consider that i'm kind of on the total opposite end of the spectrum of what your audience would be into i was reading through it and i'm like man like it's kind of crazy how many people are excited to see us talk so i i couldn't blow it off and not do it again because i figured i gotta i gotta do it for the people
Let's go. Well, thanks for coming back on guys. Yeah. I just, I love you a lot. Our last conversation, I just had like a lot of respect for you and, um, and everything we talked about.
So I know we're going to probably rehash some stuff back there, but I still want you to give a little bit of background of like where you came from and how no jumper started and things like that before we dive into everything that we'll talk about.
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Chapter 2: Who is Adam22 and how did No Jumper start?
right so i mean i'm uh from nashville new hampshire which is a small suburb of boston about like 45 minutes outside boston and grew up pretty normal my parents my mom was a librarian my dad was a social worker i got a younger sister she's three years younger than me um and i was pretty much just like an angry sort of troubled kid uh i started riding bmx bikes though when i was like 12 or 13 and that pretty much like became my whole life at that point and uh
rode BMX bikes for like 10 years until I was 22 and then I started this BMX website called The Come Up and that within like a year just basically became like the biggest BMX website and did that for about 10 years and then in my early 30s I was living out in LA by this point I had a bike shop downtown LA
And basically, like, was around a lot of underground rappers as a result of just going to clubs and parties and stuff like that. And just sort of started interviewing some SoundCloud rappers. And then all of a sudden, SoundCloud rap became huge. And that kind of was just my...
entry point into the game and now I've been running No Jumper for just about 10 years and I interview a whole plethora of different rappers and all kinds of different personalities. And then I also do a podcast with my wife called Plug Talks, a porn podcast where we interview a different girl every week and then sleep with her on camera.
So presumably a large percentage of your audience is not terribly in favor of that, but that's basically what I got going on, yeah.
Yeah, sweet. And I told you last time, but I've known about No Jumper for like a long time. I mean, I feel like that's like one of the, you know, podcasts I feel like have become super popular like in the last like couple years. But you've been in the game for a long time.
Yeah, I started interviewing rappers in like 2013 or 2014. And then, or excuse me, BMX riders in 2013 or 2014 and then BMX riders in 2014. or rappers in 2015. And yeah, it has been kind of insane because I had so much anxiety and stress associated with getting into doing podcasting. I was just kind of scared to be on camera. Didn't know if I was going to be good at it or whatever.
And it just seemed like this huge undertaking. And now it feels like people just...
start podcasts like if you're an influencer or whatever just start a podcast it's all good it's no big deal so it's like it's kind of crazy to see it go from this very fringe thing where i remember when i started it was all all the comments were like you seriously think i'm gonna watch an hour and a half of you talking to this guy and now everybody seems to grasp that that's normal so yeah i feel like i've shifted more from music away from music to podcasts for some reason which is like it's so weird but like i like it who is uh who's been your favorite guest you've ever interviewed
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Chapter 3: What are Adam22's views on Christianity and religion?
No, for sure I think it's possible. I guess what you're asking is, do you think that there is a religion that incorporates the supernatural or something along those lines? Because for sure, when I've read about secular humanistic religions, that's a lot closer to what I believe. I just don't even really feel the need to put a name on it.
I remember being a young kid, and my dad got locked up in the feds for a year when I was 12.
and he was basically on trial and in the media dealing with uh these charges because i'm in like a small town where it's like that kind of stuff it was like a mail fraud charge basically he was like accused of using his uh role in the local government he was an alderman which is really like kind of a small time role in uh in politics locally and then he also worked at this construction company helping them get jobs and stuff like that he was basically accused of like using his role
in government to help get jobs for his business or whatever. He ends up taking a plea deal, doing a year. And I just remember during that time period, my mom really leaning on the church and the church being a big part of what kept her sane and mentally well during that time period. And I remember my mom explaining to me that that was why she knew that religion was for her.
And I said to her, I'm like, mom, You could have got that out of a bowling league. The fact that you had a bunch of people who were supporting you and emotionally sort of lifting you up, that's awesome. But that has nothing to do with whether what's in this book is true or not.
Now, I'm not a religious scholar, and there's a lot of people who really make it their thing to debate Christianity and to be able to sort of debunk the Bible or whatever. I don't really get into all that. That's kind of above my pay grade. That's actually why it's kind of funny even doing –
these conversations with you, this being the second one, because it's like, I don't really even talk about religion. A huge percentage of the people that I do podcasts with and people that I interview and everything, they are Christian. To me, it doesn't seem like they take it serious in any meaningful way. They'll tell you that they pray, but I never really see them.
We'll be having a conversation in which to me, if you were religious, it would seem like, okay, this is the point where you're gonna start talking about God and it doesn't really come up. I feel like to a lot of people in hip hop, it's like,
impossible to imagine being like outwardly a non-believer i actually know multiple people in hip-hop who are atheists but would never say it publicly because it's so looked down upon in the black community and hip-hop to like be anti-religious i see what you're saying dang do you so do you want would you want god to be real if he was real Um, probably not the God in the Bible.
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Chapter 4: How does Bryce Carver defend his Christian faith?
So he was telling him, that's going to be your sign when I raise from the dead, that I really am who I say I am.
And I was watching some religious debates prior to this, and I actually found out, which I didn't know, that most, or at least a very large percentage of biblical scholars don't actually believe that the resurrection literally happened. You don't think so? Well, apparently like most biblical scholars don't, which is, I mean, it is hard to believe.
It is like, you know, that really is like the one magic trick that if that's true, then okay, this whole religion kind of hinges on that, right? Like, I don't think that there's much to debate or discuss if you don't believe in that. But I found out while getting ready for this and watching some debates that actually that's like heavily contested by Christians.
Well, this is why I believe that he did raise from the dead. When he rose from the dead, there was a 40-day period where Jesus appeared to over 500 people. It's not like a spiritual being raised from dead. Like in his physical fleshly body, he's raised from the dead. 500 people saw this guy over a 40-day time period in the flesh. And then he ascended into heaven in front of a group of people.
Some people were like, oh, these people are drunk and hallucinating. It was super early in the morning when they did that. And back in Jewish culture, that was just not a thing that occurred. So we can wipe that out of the thing. Number two, mass hallucination does not happen. That is like a very rare thing. If not, does not happen. No one was on drugs when this happened.
And a buttload of people saw this guy ascend into heaven. Okay, so we're looking at that. And then my third thing is all of these apostles and followers of Christ died for the fact that he raised from the dead. Hmm. They didn't die for the fact that, oh, he lived and died. There's more evidence that Jesus Christ was a real dude than Alexander the Great.
There was the same amount of evidence that Jesus Christ was a real guy back in that time period for that culture, that Caesar was a real guy. Caesar was a popular figure in the Roman government. There was just as much evidence for Jesus as there was for Caesar. So we can't deny that he wasn't a real person. It's just, was he God? Did he really raise from the dead? And I believe that.
I mean, if you got guys dying for this stuff, I feel like if you weren't as confident in the fact that he rose from the dead, the guys that claim to have seen him face to face, if they weren't as confident, they wouldn't have died for it. And I mean, the upside down cross on your face. Peter was like, crucify me upside down because I'm not worthy to be crucified standing up. He was willing to die.
for the fact that Jesus raised from the dead. That blows my mind. So, like, yes, I mean, we need to understand these truths, but I also feel like the same way that the church appealed to your mom in her time of crisis when your dad was in jail and your family was going through it, and she said, well, this is why, you know, like, I understand.
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Chapter 5: What is the debate around the resurrection of Jesus?
And there was a couple other times I remember like I had a friend who found like probably a stack of 20 porno magazines in the woods. And he would like keep them in this plastic container in the woods and we would like ride our bikes over there and look at them sometimes. But yeah, that was kind of like how I got introduced to it.
And then obviously the Internet kind of kicks off when I'm like 12 or 13. And then it kind of, you know, even at that time to see like a single person.
image of uh porn online was a bit of a challenge to like download it or whatever and then i always had like what i would call a healthy relationship with it um in the sense that i always felt like masturbating was kind of like a stress reliever um that was generally pretty useful in my life um in the sense of like you know if you're going to school and you've got all this
sexual energy and tension built up in your body. If you could masturbate and it takes you four minutes and it goes away, I've always felt like that was a pretty good thing. And even going on a date with a girl, I feel like it's a bad idea to go on a date with a girl if you've got all the sexual energy built up in yourself. I'm a big fan of
masturbation as like a mental health device to basically uh make yourself cool off a little bit uh mentally and still i feel like i have that kind of relationship with it where it's like you know a lot of times i'll just do it before i go to bed it takes me five minutes i feel a little bit more chilled out laid back boom i fall asleep like a baby and when i uh
Sometimes I'll talk to girls, especially girls who do live streaming, camming type stuff, and they'll tell me these sort of bizarre stories about guys that are in their fan base and how they are masturbating many times per day. And I'm like, whoa, that is... I could see how that could have a hugely negative impact on that person's life.
Chances are this person is not living a very healthy lifestyle as a result of the fact that he's pleasuring himself this many hours a day. But I never really felt even close to that. And even like I have a friend who a couple of years ago, he was like 21 and he was a bit of a nerd and he had never slept with a woman.
and not that that makes you a nerd but he just had never he's not religious or anything but he had just never really had a girlfriend or anything like that and he ends up getting into a position to sleep with a woman for the first time and uh he basically like was so adjusted to masturbating to relatively you know extreme porn probably not that extreme but you know multiple people having sex with each other on camera and all this sort of stuff and once he got in the position to actually sleep with this girl he couldn't
you know get hard or like bring himself to do it and he came to me for advice and i remember like telling him like you you really need to reset your brain you know like this is not you've taken something that to me is relatively healthy or innocuous and you've taken it to such an extent that you like you know it's messing you up and uh there's like
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Chapter 6: Does religion influence moral behavior?
There is a certain group of people where doing porn is basically like their last resort. Like this is the last thing that they're capable of doing. Like if you're like a really bad... I don't want to say a really bad drug addict because if it was showing physically, you probably wouldn't be able to get work.
But I've known girls who that's kind of like, oh, they're bad with the drugs and porn is kind of like what they're doing because they realistically probably couldn't do anything else. To me, that's like 1%. And those people usually are very much on the outer rim of this kind of stuff because I've been on a million porn sets and I've never seen anybody do drugs.
Sure. Well, I think you could say in any small tight-knit community that, oh, well, it's not as dark in the community. You could do the same thing with like a cult. The cult could be like, oh, yeah, it's not super dark. And then everybody else is like, what are you doing, bro? You know what I mean?
And so I think like if you zoom out and take a broad perspective of porn, right, I think there's a lot more negatives and positives to it in my opinion. I think that's why people cheat is because they watch porn. Because here's like – I feel like I would probably cheat without porn. Okay, but okay, good, good. Okay, so I think so. Here's why.
I think when people cheat because their definition of love is the feeling I get, and if you're not giving me the feeling of butterflies and excitement and this rush of dopamine, then I'm not going to choose to show up. And because I... because you don't make me excited, I'm not choosing to show up in the highs or lows. And now I'm questioning the choice I made for you.
Whereas the Bible would say this is reversed. Love is a choice. I choose to love Jesus. So because I choose to love Jesus, I show up in the highs and the lows with Jesus. No conditions. But because I show up, no matter the conditions, it stirs my affections for him. I think in the same way, when I make a commitment to someone, that's why I think sex and love is so special.
When I choose to love my girlfriend, I want to marry my girlfriend one day. I choose to love her. Despite how hard life gets, despite how great life gets, I'm going to choose to show up for her. And because I choose to show up for her, you understand, like there's days where, you know, excitement and feelings aren't always there.
But when you choose to show up for that person, those moments, it stirs the affections for them. And so I recognize, like, I recognize that I've never had sex before. And... Hopefully, Lord willing, one day I'm gonna get married and I'm not gonna know what I'm doing. And I think that's okay. I think it's a beautiful thing that I've saved myself for the person I'm committing to.
And then I'm gonna learn and grow and adapt with that person that I've made a commitment to. But from a broad perspective, that's like people watch porn and they go, oh, this is exciting. And I think porn offers this perspective of sex that's just not real. I think porn creates a fantasy that is just not realistic. And then people expect this is what sex to be like.
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