Wiz Khalifa

One day he came home and told me he wanted to be a rapper. This man is a star right now. I've never seen anything like it.

And whatever era that you lived in or existed in, it comes and it goes so fast. And you don't realize that it's coming and going. So for me, being a parent is really, really important. So I didn't focus as much on music as I did on family and spending time at home. So in two, three years, I watched numbers change. I watched...

all types of things changed to where I thought that shit was just there. And it's not. You gotta really chase after that shit and go for it. And I think that's where a lot of artists find themselves at a crossroads of if they wanna do it or not. Because when you have to hit that reset button and go hard like you did back in the day just to re-earn that respect and re-earn

that attention and remind people of the things that you're capable of it could be frustrating and it can be like man i don't want to do that shit or i don't got time for that i got other shit to put my energy to you know i mean so i think that's like the the biggest and the hardest thing that i had to like learn about this shit

I think you can pretty much tell. I'm pretty stoned throughout the day. So you can tell by my demeanor. I'm usually really cool, easygoing. I always got some good jokes. You'll definitely hear a lot of laughter. And if you can't tell by just seeing me or being around me, you'll smell it for sure.

Yeah, that's a great way of saying it. You're more ready and prepared now than ever. But it's like even just your attempts or your tries at doing shit, they don't get looked at as the same because it's not as what it was before. And then even just being in the industry, it's clear when people are or aren't fucking with you.

So it's like when they are fucking with you, you're at every party, you're at every show, you're at every this. And then when they're not fucking with you, you're calling and you're like, hey, this party's coming up. And they're like, I know, but you don't have an invite this year. You're like, damn, they really ain't fucking with me. And I didn't do nothing. I didn't change.

I just maybe didn't put up the numbers that they wanted me to, or they just got more people that they're,

in line to do things for so it's like fighting for that position or just you know be staying on top of your game creatively but we do this for attention we want to bring attention and we want to expand our black our platform and we want to see it grow so when there's things that you know not necessarily getting away but

even like the algorithms and things like that, they change, they move and you kind of get flushed out of the system and you have to go against that. You have to figure out new ways to get attention because that's what you do this shit for. You can't act like you don't want it.

100%.

And I'll do it all over again. And I'm still going to continue to do it. Even in this stage of like, all right, I'm ready to start going hard and doing things again. He's always going to be right there.

Yeah, exactly. For sure.

Let's do this.

Are they quick or like just rapid fire or are we going in?

Yeah, I do.

This year? Shit, I don't have one for this year. I don't, man. I don't because last year was quit drinking and I did that.

Since at least in high school.

Yeah, yeah.

Still sober.

Cali Sober. I believe in New Year's resolutions. They're good goals. The type of New Year's resolutions I be setting is like, be a better friend. Be more thoughtful. Call my mom more often. Like, shit that you can actually do. You know what I'm saying? Not be like, fucking get a fatter ass before the end of the year. That's not a New Year's resolution. Right.

You got to set achievable goals. And some of y'all ain't getting no ass.

Yeah, for sure. I started getting stoned like, you know, wake and bake and like showing up to school baked. You know what I'm saying? I wouldn't advocate that for anybody else. But for me, that was definitely my thing. And then it translated into my adult life. I never really slowed down or had anything where I was like, you know, I'm not going to smoke for this.

Unless you find somebody to pay for that motherfucker. And then you all good.

No, I haven't.

I'm going to get some titties for this particular special somebody.

First tits I ever bought. Wow. I don't know why I'm so reluctant.

She wants some titties.

I don't not want her to get them. I'm just like, I don't know. It's just like, I'm just, I haven't wrapped my head. I haven't become that dude who was like, here we go. And you know what? I have actually, because I've purchased multiple plastic surgeries for my baby's mother and didn't give a fuck. So I don't know. I don't think it's see surgery to me is like,

I don't know if I'm old school, but I'm not a woman. So I don't have like the enhancement mind state where it's like the things that I don't like, I just go ahead and fucking enhance it. But there's no problem with it. Like there's nothing, I'm not against it. I think if you got it, you want to do it, go for it. But like being close to me and being like, yo, spend your money on this.

It's hard for me to wrap my mind around it because I'm not the enhancement dude. But now that time is going on, I'm down with enhancements.

Oh, this is such a crazy fucking.

You said the guys don't have the female gaze?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You can enhance that these days.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But even still, it's like you're not looking through our pants to see.

You could try. You could try.

It's not really like accurate though. You know what I mean?

I'd be like. I like a girl for what she has. If she has small boobs, I like them little titties. They're perfectly fine. But I get it in her head where it's like, I want some big boobs. I see fucking big boobs on TV. I see how you react when you see big boobs. I don't got big boobs, so I want what I think that you like. But it's hard to explain to a woman that your little tits are fine.

They're cool. They're cute. They're sweet. You love them. Yeah, they're awesome.

I love your little boobs. Multiple, but she don't love the little boobs. She wants, like, some nice little perkies.

I can't blame her, you know? There's a lot going on out here.

But that's the thing. It's like, with dudes, I'm like, now you know what we going through. I see fucking huge, ripped, fucking 210-pound, shredded dudes. I'm a buck 70. I'm like... I don't know what you really like. You might, you might, you might be acting like you like a buck 70, but you might want this fool to toss you up in the air. Like, you know what I'm saying?

I'm a smoke a little bit more for this.

Like y'all are just better at hiding that shit. We are, we see some boobs and we don't know how to act.

You, you seen him too.

They are. They're awesome.

I love ass.

I love ass because it can be toned. It can be thick. It can be soft. It can be small and petite. I like all types of ass. Yeah, yeah.

no i like nice boobs nice boobs yeah really nice boobs they could be perky like small ones or they could be like the large ones the fact that we started this conversation oh new year's resolutions yeah and i was talking about getting a fatter ass and we started talking about it yeah yeah that was good that was good yeah okay next one okay

Looking at some ass.

Yeah.

Nah.

No private dances. I don't do lap dances either.

That's just too much for me. Like, you know what I mean? I don't really want it all. Not it. I don't really want that. You know what I'm saying? It's a lot of energy all on me.

Not too much, but it's like I'm here to enjoy it. That's too much enjoyment.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's too much enjoyment. Looking at it, smacking it.

you know what i mean if she if that's what she's into of course because most women they'll let you know like where where they want you to go with it but i'm cool just throwing money like honestly just just throwing some cash hearing some great music and watching some ass shake yes smoking some weed support the girls i mean pay somebody's bills for for for for a month or two

Well, now there really isn't a difference because sometimes you just got to perform how you got to perform. But back then, I just noticed I was able to hear different parts of the music that I hadn't heard before. I was able to hear fucking tambourines over here and saxophone over here. And I'm like, holy shit. Like, I never really experienced music in those layers like that before. Right.

Yeah, for sure. Supportive Wiz.

Yeah, I'm supportive Wiz.

I could tell your girls to gather her girls up and y'all go do the same goddamn thing. Yeah, get you some home, girls, and y'all go do the same thing. Y'all either go see some niggas take they clothes off and shake they thing in your face, or you go see some fat ass too, you know what I'm saying? Whatever you into. Get the home, girls.

Leave the homeboys wherever they at, and y'all go do the exact same thing.

I think it's hot if a chick has shit to do. If she's like, yo, you go do your thing, I'm going to go do my thing. I'm not going to press you. You know what I'm saying? We could do hella shit together. For sure, I wanna do everything with you. But if there's one or two things that we gotta separate and do, we should be fine. We should be completely fine. Both of us. We should be all right.

Yeah, for sure. Hell yeah, I like going to the strip club with my girl.

I love reality TV.

Yeah, man.

I mean, I like to watch Ratchet shit, so I watch Baddies. I'm watching the villain show, The House of Villains right now on E. Is it good? Yeah, it's good. It's super good. Omarosa's on there. Bobby J's on there. New York was on there. Oh, I'm OG reality TV, bro.

Flavor of Love. I love New York. Real World.

tequila tequila tequila that was oh gee yeah yeah i'm super i'm super into real i used to want to be on reality tv really when real world was cracking man i wanted to be on real world i thought i had something to bring to the game like explain what you thought you could bring to that game personality I thought I had a great personality people wanted to see on TV, which obviously I do.

And I wanted to max some chicks for show in the house. I was like, I'm just going to be a big old player on TV and just let everybody know how cool I am.

If I was The Bachelor? Yeah. I'm not clean enough to be The Bachelor. You know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah. But The Bachelor, he kind of square, like, you know what I mean? That's why I like Flavor of Love. Like, that one was cool. For the Love of Ray J, you remember that one?

Yeah.

I like the dating shows. I don't think I could do the one where you're like trying to find my love, though. Like, I don't know about all of that.

Whoa, big brother. Yeah. Shit is like we're living in a house and you're doing like tasks and shit like that.

Not the why not? Um, why not? Why wouldn't I be? Honestly, because they just be kissing each other in the mouth. And that shit is kind of nasty to me. Like when I just be seeing all of them, like a lineup and kids. I know eventually in life like that happens, but to see it, it just makes it too real.

And being high as shit is what definitely opened all of that up for me. And yeah, that was that was the best experience for me, man, for sure.

I'm trying to think. In one night?

Maybe. Yeah. Maybe. If I'm making out with a chick, it's pretty much her. Or if we're having a threesome, then yeah, for sure.

All right, cool.

I have had a lot of threesomes, yes.

Yeah.

Not the king of them, but like a lot of women like me and like they be wanting to share and I'm down.

No, not in a relationship.

No, no.

Yeah, single, single only.

Yeah.

No.

I'm cool off of that. To me, that's not considered a threesome. But I understand in a world where it is considered a threesome.

Two girls.

Yes. It happens really often.

A lot of women aren't cut out for threesomes. That's what it is. You got to be programmed really, really differently to do it and enjoy it. And it's a competitive thing. It gets competitive. It takes a lot of confidence. Confidence is key. And, you know, just got to be having fun with it. Like sometimes it might go in this direction or that direction, but you just got to be able to bring it back.

Sometimes people don't make it through that.

That gets really awkward. I think when you don't think there's feelings involved and then there start to become feelings involved, that's when it gets tricky.

and you were just doing it to be like hot or cool i mean honestly if that's what you got to do for you to figure out that you ain't ready for that get it out the way like you know what i'm saying and then just be like yo i'm not doing that right like listen we'll have the threesome you figure out your feelings but while you're figuring it out yeah like you know what i'm saying i gotta have a threesome clause

absolutely everything just sounds like wow I hear there's like 19 different things happening and you hear everything at the same time but you're able to like ingest it in a better way and it makes listening to the music so much more fun because I'm not just listening to the song I'm hearing it progress I'm like bro that flute wasn't there at the beginning of the song and I'm trying to explain it to somebody and they're like I don't give a shit you're high bro and I'm like I am

shirtless at the gym we talking in the mirror uh i'm down i'm down if y'all are allowed to do the the ass pick with the with the one toe up you know what i mean showing that thing off what i do know about shirtless picks in in the gym you're not as freaking swole as you feel like you are yeah you're never you're never really as big or as coming off as

menacing as you think you are so it's better to just keep them to yourself that is kind of sad if you like go back and look at the picture you took and you're like hey that I don't look as good as I thought I did like the abs aren't abbing the arms aren't arming nothing's going on it's better to do what I did get a candid cameraman to get some nice angles if you sweating you know what I mean just let one pic just be your legacy

I let that, this one pic is going to follow me forever. I'm good. So I don't got to do that shit no more.

It already is. There's tripod setups and all this shit.

I fuck with a good selfie.

can't make fun of me. It's pointless, I look too good. If I post it, it's for a reason. Yeah, yup.

camping i'm down with camping you are yeah do you frequent camping i don't you consider being on a tour bus in the summertime behind the venue camping do you often go camping actual camping not in a tour bus no no have you ever been you go I have been as a kid, but I don't got time for that shit. But I'm down with camping because you can do mushrooms. What were you about to say?

You were about to ask me if I go camping or what?

Hell yeah.

What else? We're going to watch some good movies.

Why not?

You talking about going in a tent? I'm way too player to be sleeping in a fucking tent. And I would never let my son sleep in a tent either.

Okay, so this is what we'll do. We'll have a nice ass situation set up over here and then we can put the tent outside of that. And when we get tired of that shit, we going back inside and watching Scarface. The fuck? I'm not sleeping in no tent. I'm 6'5". That tent's going to be big as hell. So we might as well just go ahead and do the real thing.

That's not faking it. There be some baller ass camping setups. I'm sorry. I don't know what kind of camping you talking about.

You talking about some History Channel shit. I'm talking about some baller ass. I be seeing how y'all be camping. Them campers. It's like glamping. Yeah, them shit is big as hell. They be having three, four slide outs. They be having master bedrooms, jacuzzis. That's me.

Yeah, we'll be good. It'll be fun as hell. I bet you everybody would be wanting to be on my shit instead of in the fucking tent. Everybody would be coming over to me like, knock, knock. We was waiting on you to pull up, fam. Tell me.

You talking about white people?

Yeah, white people. Nah, there's some outdoorsy black folks, but I don't know them.

i'm dead that is so good what do you think of cruises have you ever gone oh like going on a cruise i'm not really i'm not really like with the cruise how do you feel about boats boats i with boats really yeah i with a boat oh i get kind of like seasick yeah i've seen some you know some seasick people i with a boat though just the idea of being out on the waves and ripping it like you know what i mean that shit's hella fun

Every time?

You know what you got to do?

That's what I'm saying.

No, weed combats nausea, bruh.

Yeah. Hit the weed, go on a boat, enjoy life.

I'm telling you. All right, cool. So next time you got to go on a boat.

And you don't have anything else to do. Just listen, like my little voice in your head. You know what I mean? Let it echo.

You were going to vomit anyway, so.

Yeah.

Oh, the Mile High Club. I'm cool. I fuck with the Mile High Club. I haven't joined the Mile High Club personally. Nah, man, because I'm 6'5". Like, you know, just being this tall. I've had some really cool jets, but it just wasn't the vibe. It wasn't the vibe. It wasn't the vibe.

It seems like it would be. If I was with like a chick,

who's just like so fucking hot it's just like oh it's just like we're just like getting to it on the plane i'd totally be down but i'm not the dude who's just gonna sit there and like you know start it out of nowhere just because like i could i could wait you know what i mean i could fucking wait right you don't need it that bad i could wait i appreciate that um all right we said that you're in a relationship how long have you been in this relationship with this lady it's

I think four, five years, I don't know. Four years maybe.

It is, right? That's serious.

Just out and about.

Nah, not at the strip club.

Nah, I went to this event. It was supposed to be a little get together. But it was more like an event.

And she was working at the event. And we ended up just chilling, kind of just talking and shit. Because me, I'm more low-key, so anytime I go anywhere, I'm not around the other famous people or celebrities or anything like that. I always go in the corner and just chill and smoke and do my thing. So she was down to chill and smoke and be in the corner with me. I don't blame her. I don't either.

Yeah.

Yeah. Five years later, we still kicking it.

It's good. It's fun.

Well, not fun, but I think I'm in a good situation with her as a co-parent. Yeah. You know, just especially through time, like things have just...

eased up and become a lot more enjoyable and just regular of a process yeah um all the irregular shit has been worked out and and we're past everything that you know i think would cause people to be dysfunctional so at this point it's way easier to just run things smoothly than it is for it not to be smooth yeah like why not for your son's sake just be

And that might be the climactic point that makes you fall in love with the song. You might listen to the song for two minutes and 45 seconds. And right when that flute comes in, it just melts your heart.

yeah i think i think amber's a good girl she's just a sweet person that's why i originally you know fell in love with her and wanted to start a family with her because i see all of those qualities in her and uh us not working out in a relationship doesn't mean that we're not still great people yeah and we're just great partners right now and um you know the things that

she does inform me on or anything that I'm there for. But if it's like, if it doesn't involve me, then that's not a part of our conversation. That's not part of how we deal with shit. And I think that's really productive. It's just not bringing outside shit into, you know, what happens with what's important. She's really good at keeping that away. And I'm really good at keeping that away too.

And we just, you know, we, we bond and we, We kick it, we spend time together. I think that's important for Sebastian too. My parents were divorced and there was no way they were being in the same room together. Like they can just now kind of be in the same room together and they're not talking to each other.

But I think that not only just functioning and being like, oh, yeah, it's for the baby, but showing him like, oh, we could go here. We can go there. We stand up for each other. We're at parent teacher conferences together. We're at your concerts together. Like, you know, we go above and beyond for that, man.

Yeah. It's really difficult, man. It's more difficult than I thought it was going to be actually, because I'm super duper open about, um, the boundaries that me and Amber have. But, um, I think it's probably difficult for anybody that she deals with too. Um, Because we're so vocal about the love that we have for each other.

And I'm a powerful person in what I do and she's powerful in what she does. So it's like a little bit of intimidation there. Like they're going to be like, oh, you'll always go back to him or he can call you right now and you'll just go running. And that might or might not be the case. But if she's focused on you at the time, that's not the conversations that y'all need to be having.

And then same thing for me where it's like I'm not going to mistreat her to make any woman feel better. So if you expect me to bad mouth her or keep a conversation short with her or not laugh when I'm on the phone, we're just simple shit. It's like we're going to have a fucking problem because... I'm going to be good to her. You know what I mean?

And that's just something that, not that you're just going to have to accept, but you're going to have to really enjoy that. You're going to have to want that for me. You know what I mean? That's going to have to make you happy too. It might be hard. It might be difficult.

We might be, there's going to be a lot of like, you know, in my situation, there is a lot of bumps where we have to have the conversation. And I think that just communication, open communication, me being understanding and Where it's like, I understand that you feel like this and you could think these things, but it's up to me to, you know, put that confidence back there.

And I can only do it with my words and my actions. And if you ain't got it, then you ain't got it. So we'll figure that out in time as well. Like I'm not really gonna carry anybody through the shit because that situation is permanent. That is there. So it's not about making somebody understand it who ain't gonna get it. You just really have to be built for that shit.

that's pretty much my whole life if you lived my life and you weren't high you would be fucked are you going to a parent teacher conference high hell yeah i'm pulling up stone they expect it they do are the teachers cool with it yeah they know what's up it's not like back in the day where you're considered a bad parent if you smell like weed i'm pretty sure my son smells like weed like i'm i don't know because i can't smell it but i'm pretty sure he smells like pot

Fascinating. It's like almost you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't. Because on the opposite side of it, she can be fucking crazy and be calling, and who's around my son, and blah, blah. You wouldn't enjoy that. So you would much rather us be on good terms.

So just figure out which fucking one you want to deal with, and let's get it. Let's get it.

We love to watch movies. We love to play basketball. We love to listen to music. He likes being on tour with me. I took him on tour last year. We spent a lot of time on tour and just him being on stage and just ripping it with his homies.

Yeah, that's a good bonding time for us. We like to go bowling.

I just involve him in everything that I do. I take my low riders out on Sundays. So he comes out with me with his friends. We go low riding. He's so cute. I think right now, like, our biggest thing is just getting dressed. He loves clothes.

He's super into clothes.

So he runs to me. He's like, yo, daddo. He calls me daddo. He don't call me daddy or dad.

He's like, yo, daddo, I need you to help me pick out a fit. I already got this, but I just need blah, blah, blah, blah. So I'm like, let me see. That's hard, I like it. Colors there, got this piece, got that piece, you lit. I just need a jacket and a hat. Go in my closet, go grab one, whatever you want. We put them things together.

Yeah, no, I love it. I love the fact that he takes pride in his appearance That's where I learned how to take pride in my appearance.

From my dad.

My dad used to make me pick out five outfits a week. He'd be like, iron your clothes, pick your outfits out. Not just jeans and t-shirts. You got to switch it up. You know what I mean? Like he really, really instilled that in me is like taking pride in my appearance, having a nice watch, wearing cologne, making sure my hair was done. I always wanted to grow my hair. I always had long hair.

I never really liked having short hair. But he would be like, Cam, you look fucking crazy. Like, what the fuck, blah, blah, blah. So, you know, that's where my pride comes from in my appearance. And to be instilling that same pride in my son, it feels really good.

Oh yeah.

He's an OG Swifty man.

It cracks me up. It's so cute. It's so sweet. Cause he plays like really like hard, tough music around his friends. And then he'll be studying and he'll be just like singing some real sweet song or like harmonizing. I'm like, you're so sweet, buddy. I love you.

He really his palette for music is just like it's all over the place. I love that for him.

I could see him getting into the industry. I could see him doing something like with his personality. Like just because. With me, I'm a great musician and that's where I put the majority of my work. It's just like learning and studying music because it's an art. But people are in love with me. They love my personality. They love my smile. They love my point of view on things.

And I can see him being somebody like that where just his taste in whatever is going to be valued, whether it's clothes, whether it's movies, whether he wants to direct, whether he plays sports in high school. He's just going to freaking be the fucking maestro to his own goddamn classical masterpiece, bro.

And yeah, I'm pulling up stone. I'm pulling up high because I want them to connect with the real me. They're not going to get a fake version of me or this made-up parent that society makes you think that you're supposed to be. I am who I am. And it's not because I'm a celebrity or anything, but it's because it's really what I believe in. And why not get the real me?

I'm going to be right there screaming, crying. I'm going to be so embarrassing.

Fatherhood for me, I think it let me know what I'm really good at and what I'm really here for. Mm-hmm. Cause like I said, I love to do music. And if you would have asked me before I had a kid, like what my purpose was, I'd be like to be an entertainer, to be on that stage. And really now I just know that that's my gift.

Like is to just understand timing and human emotions and how to bring that out. And I understand that I have to work at it for it to be what it is. But being a dad, like that's something that like naturally, like, you know what I mean? Like, There is no book, there's nobody to study, there is no anything that tells you how to be a great dad.

And my son comes to me regularly and be like, you're just such a good dad, daddo. I love you so much. And just the things that he does or if I hear him talk to other people and how his teachers tell me that he makes this class feel and things like that, it's really, really rewarding.

as a parent to know that i'm in charge of that and that that's what the result is and his mother too you know it could be the complete opposite it could be like bro this kid needs some help man like you gotta send him the fucking blah blah blah but instead it's like you know they're like what do you whatever you're doing keep doing it keep doing it i'm like yes damn so

Being a dad definitely let me know the art and my craft is something to be proud of and to take serious. But that's not all that I am in life. I'm more than that.

And like, I, the way that I do things with him is crazy because I'm always learning. Like he had his friends over this weekend and he was like, He had four friends over. Well, three friends. It was four boys at my house.

And they're ripping and running. They're all over the house. They're here. They're there. I got a big ass house. I just bought a big ass trampoline for them. And he's like, can you take us low riding to go get something to eat? I'm like, maybe I'll see what's up. And then a couple of hours passed. They forget about that. He's like, can you take us ice skating? I'm like, yeah. All right. Fuck it.

And then I look at all the ice skating rinks and then there's not one that's really suitable for all of us. And I'm like, nah, let's not go ice skating. He's like, can we go to dinner? I want to go get some sushi tonight. I'm like, yeah, fuck it. The gas closes, like goes out on dinner. And I tell him, I'm like, bro, I'm sorry, bro. We can't go to dinner. He starts like tearing up.

I'm like, why are you tearing up? He's like, I just didn't get to do nothing this weekend. Like I just sat in the house. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like I had my friends over. We really didn't get to do nothing. I'm like, bro, do you understand that having your friends over is a privilege? Like literally that's the doing something. Me giving you shit. Oh, yeah. Can we go go-karting?

Oh, yeah, sure. Let me try to rent it out. They didn't have the spot. Me doing shit is extra. Like, I'm trying to make it happen, but if it don't work, like, you know what I'm saying? My bad. Like, don't tell me we not doing nothing. He's like... I don't mean that we not doing nothing.

And why would I have to change who I am or act like I'm not that person just for these places that I'm going to go like that's not how I'm going to be living my life ever. Like, hell no.

It's just that, you know, Christmas break is coming up and Noah's mom said that he's not going to be able to come back over because blah, blah, blah. And I haven't taken him out to dinner in a month. here, look at this picture. This is from November 2nd. I'm like, you're right, it's been a month. He's like, Sean's going out of town and this is JC Young's first time over here.

And I was like, oh, so you just really want to show your friends a good time. You're not being spoiled. You just wanted to show them like you had high hopes of just like being a party host and you wanted me to help you. He's like, yeah, I was just looking forward to it. But if we don't got to go, it's cool. I'm like, no, bro, I understand. Now I'm going to make sure we go.

So we called the restaurant back, and they ended up having it open, and we ended up being able to go to dinner and all of that. But him breaking it down and explaining it to me like that, I'm like, wow, his 10-year-old mind is really working, and it makes sense.

Yeah, it's super cool.

Exactly.

How tall I am. Tired of people saying that shit.

All right, I'm 6'5".

This is serious and heartfelt.

You have tall features.

Yeah.

Because you got a long neck.

This neck is like... It's really long. And then your arms are like... And your wrists are... I would think you were tall, too.

Yeah. Is that a bad thing? No. No.

It's like a model neck.

Models are tall and long and exaggerated.

So you're built like a model.

Oh, shit. I do a lot of dumb shit. I don't know if I have like the number one dumbest thing. I just really need people behind me to cover my tracks.

There we go.

Oh, thank you.

Shit, everything. Go through my whole discography at this point.

Listen to everything from fucking Prince of the City all the way up to right now. Star Power is a good one. That was an old mixtape. But recently, shit, this year, I think I put out three or four projects.

But the main ones, the last two that I did were Cali Sober. I dropped that in October. And I just dropped Decisions this month. Those are the last two that I did. I got a lot of videos that I've been dropping. I just dropped some videos off of Decisions. So if you're just now catching up, see me, I like to be really current when I'm on the internet. If I go too far back, I feel kind of whack.

So I keep my material like that too. If you want to look up some shit, you don't got to go too far back to just be up on what's happening.

Man, I don't know. Shit, Daddy Gang, what we streaming? The Thrill, fuck it. Everybody go listen to The Thrill right now.

Daddy Gang, go. I bet you either, I bet you heard that song and fucking haven't heard it in a minute or you didn't know it was me and now you're like, oh, I fuck with Wiz.

Yeah, that's the reaction I want.

all right cool so first of all shout out to the daddy gang thank y'all for having me thank you for having me we bringing the taylor gang with us so that's two gangs so that means it's gang gang and for 2024 nothing but big vibes positivity blessings last year was a lot of trials and tribulations And the key word in that is trials. So keep trying and you're going to get this shit.

I need to go on your level.

Don't stop being yourself and don't stop going hard. Even if you take a little break, that don't mean that you're not going hard. That just means that you're gathering your energy and you're getting ready for that big motherfucking punch. So save your energy and be effective. Let's get it.

See, I'm a safety first type of dude, so it's never really anything unsafe like leaving a car fucking in drive and hopping out. Oh, yeah, that would do it. You know what I mean? I don't do shit like that. But like, you know, forgetting stuff, I get pretty forgetful.

Hell yeah, thanks for having me.

Yeah.

Three minutes to myself. Now the clock starts.

Definitely Bob Marley. Rick James. Snoop gotta be in there. And Bill Clinton.

what the fuck why bill clinton i gotta throw bill in there man we gotta i mean he's a legend he's a he's a smoking legend might not be for the right you know what i'm saying yeah i didn't inhale you remember bill bill been putting it down forever man building yeah yep like how old are you i'm 29 oh you're a baby but like i know bill clinton but like are you saying he's he actually publicly smokes no

We'll get a lot of comments in here that put you up on game about Bill Clinton and the weed.

Put Bill Clinton in that major rotation for sure. We can't leave Bill out. See, they already forgot about you, Bill. I got you, bro. We're going to bring you back into the rotation. They don't kick Bill out the rotation. I'm bringing him back.

I mean, for sure, because she the boss for real, for real. You know what I mean? For sure. So we got to smoke with Big Hill to get the big bill.

I wasn't in on it, but I didn't believe that shit.

There's no way that that nigga was stopping smoking weed ever, yo. Anybody who believed it or all the people who did believe it, it was just so funny because I'm like, bruh, y'all are falling for it. That's why he's doing it.

Did you believe it?

Yeah, for sure. I didn't even want to text him because I know he had, like, a list of people who had texted him.

So I was probably, like, 10th on that list. He might have answered like the first three, but I knew I wasn't getting an answer. So I'm like, I'm gonna just wait.

And then I'm gonna take this son or something like that.

They'd be like, Cam was cool as hell and he was always handing out CDs. That's my real name, Cameron. And everybody called me Cam. It'd be like Cam was always rapping. He was always telling people he was going to be on because that's all I did. And I was just the same way. Big hoodie, cargos, book bag full of weed. Same shit.

Super smooth. Yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm the man. Yeah, but I'm, I'm super, I'm like low key. I'm not like out there, but I'm, I'm sweet. I'm handsome. I'm funny. So I definitely know how to use that to my advantage.

I'm just talking to her. Just straight up spending time putting that work in. We talking eighth grade. I'm writing letters. I'm showing up to the class before the bell with a letter. You give me yours. I give you mine. You give me one. I give you two. I'm folding it up like a heart. All that. You're good. Yeah, yep. We going high school. We on the phone all night. I'm making you mixtapes.

Yeah, thank you for having me.

You know what I mean? Oh, wow. Like, little playlists and all of that. I got a car, so I'm taking you to the movies. We going out to eat. I'm buying you nice little Valentine's Day gifts. I'm buying you, we getting matching sneakers. Oh. Yeah, yep. All of that.

Not all of them. Cause there was more popular boys in school. I wasn't like, I wasn't the ad. There was athletes and you know, dudes were like, they had money already in high school. It was different in my high school. Like the niggas had money.

But, um, I was trying to keep up. So, but,

Oh, for real?

I got asked to these three particular proms. The last prom was my favorite one. First one was cool, too. But my last one was my favorite one because I went to prom with a girl that I went to elementary school with.

Somebody had to do it.

And it was so cute because I had a crush on her back there. Her name was Mia.

she's like the prettiest girl in school and me and her we had a crush on each other but we never talked to each other or did anything or dated or none of that we just was like oh we're family because we were young so we're like we're family but we like each other and then I moved away from Pittsburgh and then I came back and she was fine as hell and I'm like god damn yeah I'm like man she's like

Oh shit, you're Cam. I'm like, yeah. I'm like, cause I was taller and she was bad and I'm the tall skinny homie. So, but we didn't even date throughout high school, but we just went to prom together just to like cap it off.

That tension was there.

No, we didn't hook up. We didn't kiss. We didn't do nothing.

We kept it. We kept it. Kept it solid.

I mean, I think anybody else would be too timid or scared. They would think there was a rule or they would have to ask somebody or something like that.

Proud of myself.

I was tall. Well, I still am tall.

I'm funny. Sounds like a good prom date to me.

Yeah, I think that happened when I was like 23. Right before I put Black and Yellow out. I was working on a lot of mixtape stuff at that time. And it was super popular on the internet back then. but it was like starting to translate into shows where I was doing like, you know, 5,000, 10,000. I'm like, God damn, it's a lot of people.

And then like all the famous people started coming out of the cut. Like, everybody started hitting me up and just wanting to be a part of it or wanting to see me or wanting to come to my show. And I remember Jay-Z was at one of my shows and I'm just so normal, like regular at the time. So I'm just used to everybody like, you know, coming and going. And then a label was trying to sign me.

So they brought Jay-Z to the show and then they introduced us. They was like, hey Wiz, this is Jay. And I was like, what's up, bro? And I was just like, what's up, man? And I was going to the stage. And then I stopped. I was like, oh, fuck. I was like, wait. Jay-Z? I'm like, don't just say the J, say the Z part too. He was like, ugh. I'm like, goddamn, nigga, I almost walked straight past you.

But Jay-Z was at my show before I even blew all the way up. I made sure I got a picture because I'm a really, really big Ho fan. But it was at those moments right there. I'm like, what the fuck? I'm right about to go on stage in two seconds. I'm like, Jay-Z is here. I went and told my DJ, like, bruh, Hov is here. He was like, what the fuck? So yeah, shit like that started happening.

That's pretty much how I roll.

That's when I knew like, yeah, all right.

Yeah, we getting up out of here.

Yeah, it was cool.

Yeah, I'm glad I noticed because he was just like, Jay. I'm like, all right. A, B, C. You're like, fuck the Z. You could have helped me out there.

100%.

The hardest lesson that I learned is probably like the waves that shit happens in. Like when you're not a new artist anymore and you're transitioning through those points. It's just because you put in so much work and you expect that work to stick. But in this industry, and especially in rap music, everything is just so trendy and disposable.

I would say it was pretty normal. Like it was pretty regular. I was just, you know, like any other 20 something year old. I think just the way that we were working and traveling and like going on the road and kind of the money that we were dealing with, a lot of it was getting reinvested back into the business.

So I was making money, but I was spending money on myself and like, not even in a big way, but it would just be, you know, hotels, travel. things like that. So I was putting myself through courses in business and how to make money, spend money, reinvest, blah, blah, blah. I was doing all of this stuff naturally, but it wasn't on that level yet because we hadn't met anybody who was in the game.

We hadn't had business managers or anything like that. So it was just, you know, me and my friends, we were kind of just really, really hustling and making the best out of, out of what we knew how to do. Yeah.

Well, being that I already had a record deal and then the, essentially lost that record deal i didn't feel like a big break was coming i didn't know what that big break looked or felt like but i knew that what i was doing was working and i knew that the people who were into me and the movement that i had created i knew that that was more popular than

you know, the mainstream and like what was really, really popular at the time. So I was really confident in that, but I didn't know like a big moment was coming or anything.

It sucked for me. Like just because in those days, like if you had a record deal, like that was it. And then if you didn't have a record deal, like you were done. So to have one and then lose it is like, oh, there's, No bouncing back from that. I never knew anybody who bounced back from that. But in my mind, it was never over. I never counted myself out.

I just never knew what the next situation was going to look like or how long or what that timeframe was going to be like.

Yeah.

The gang banging and the drug selling, that's not really for me. But the looking cool, the having girls, the making music, I'm like, I like that part of it.

Yeah, I think it was just by like standing on the things that I believed in and the stuff that made me most comfortable. And if I wanted to show it, I was going to show it. If I wanted to talk about it, I was going to talk about it. It might not have been what everybody else would have considered was going to take somebody to the top. but it made me feel free and I enjoy myself by doing it.

And I think just in turn, a lot of people have fun enjoying watching me do it.

I was good. Keep doing what you're doing. You got it figured out, fool.

Nah, nah. Everything that I learned and that I figured out along my way I think happened in its time and how it was supposed to and it's positioned in me for even greater points in my life as well.

really like just my goals in this shit. I have my own personal goals and I've reached a lot of my old goals that I was trying to do. And I reached them by being myself and doing exactly what I wanted to do and how I wanted to do it. So, you know, knowing that that's possible and seeing that It doesn't make me want to rush to the next point or the next situation.

I'm comfortable waiting for what's mine and, you know, just seeing how everything plays out as opposed to, you know, trying to make it be somebody else's story. Like, I feel like my whole story and everything as far as my life, if I see it, I wanted it. It's just a matter of time until I get it.

Oh, there's no bouncing back from that.

So, you know, I'll just wait that amount of time and, you know, just keep to stay down and just, you know, just be very, very like have a lot of gratitude for where I'm at and what I've done so far. And even when I was coming up, I was really, really happy with what I had. So the more and more that I started to get, it wasn't because I wasn't happy where I was at and I had to get more.

It was just because I was so happy. It just, you know, just kept turning into more and more. So I just keep it like that.

The streets is crazy out there. I remember one of my first friends getting shot and killed in seventh grade.

This is definitely something internal that's evolved over time and it's gotten me really, really far dealing with people in business or dealing with the law or dealing with just different personalities in general as far as just getting what I want creatively and not freaking losing my mind and just being able to talk to people and have clear conversations.

with an understanding of, you know, what works, what's real and what's not and what we can make real.

She passed away, I think maybe seven years ago.

The hardest conversation I've ever had to have with someone. I think the toughest conversations that I have to have are when I have to explain my ideas. Yeah. Because? Because I'm so hyped up about it before I verbalize it. And then as soon as I start to say it, I just feel like the level of intensity of it just comes down. I'd rather just do shit sometimes and just show you.

I am grateful that I was able to have the last moments that I had and to be able to prepare for it. It's something that I'm still dealing with.

But I learned by working with so many other people how valuable it is to have a team. So I learned how to be able to express what I'm thinking and have that go through a whole process. And then we make it real.

Oh man, they didn't know what to do with me. Like there was no clue what to do with me early on. That's why I lost my first record deal because when I came in, the song was really good and it was a sample from a popular song that people was really recognizable. But after that, it was like, well, what do you do? Do you make five more of these songs or what are we going to do?

And they really didn't understand me being from Pittsburgh, me smoking weed, me being lyrical, me being a cross between you know, really, really hard hip-hop culture, but then, like, really cool, trippy, hippie, skating, you know what I'm saying, earthy.

Like there was no cross between that at the time. Like you really had to be like big white T, like chain, you know what I'm saying? So like a lot of labels didn't understand what to do with me. And it wasn't until, you know, I built my fan base of people who believe the same thing that I believe in.

And I was able to, you know, travel and do shows and then they would come and see the show and they'd be like, these motherfuckers are going crazy over this dude. Like, it doesn't matter what we say or what we think is dope. It's obviously, you know, there. And I feel like that whole format, you know, has been done a lot, like, especially in rock and roll and pop music where...

the act will be bigger in real life than they are you know what i mean to to other people like they're they're bigger in real life than they are like to hype like as far as the hype goes once they started to see that that was my situation and that's when people started to pick up on me

Yeah, absolutely. Performing live, going to a lot of different colleges, festivals before they were as big as they are now, like stuff like South by Southwest and the really like grassroots underground stuff is like what built us. And we packed into a van and just went on our own tours, just up and down and just drove ourselves And then on top of that, YouTube had just came around.

So, you know, I was recording myself and putting my vlogs on YouTube. I call it a day to day, and I still do these to this day. They're like a compilation vlog of like a week in my life. And I just started doing it because I was like, my life is so crazy. Nobody sees it. And it's so much fun. And there's so much like stuff that goes on.

I was like, so I might as well turn it into like, you know what I mean? A little 10 minutes short. And it worked. It worked a lot. It helped sell a lot of merch. It helped sell a lot of tickets. It helped build a really consistent fan base of people who are still here to this day.

Man, it's all on camera so you can see it.

Yeah. I mean, I think there's really classic episodes. There's an Australian tour with me and A$AP Rocky. You see me and J. Cole in his early days. You see me and Currency in our early days. You see a lot of artists. You see me and Kendrick in his early days. You see me with Nipsey Hussle. Yeah, you see like the whole community of people who we really came up with who are like OGs in the game now.

But there's really classic footage of us when we all just started out. Mac Miller, a lot of people. Everybody, man. Everybody who you listen to now was in those day-to-days like originally.

No, we would connect through Twitter. Right. Yeah, Twitter was the vibe back then. There was no IG. We weren't, like, DMing each other on there. But we would connect through Twitter and clothing. If anybody needed clothes or weed, like, we would all hit up the same peoples for clothes, weed, and, you know, just vibes and stuff like that. And we just all clicked and...

As we started to like take off on different levels, we would just bring each other with us based off of who we, you know, not really like the most, but who we were closest knit with at the time or who it made the most sense with.

it's really dope watching kendrick then and then now because we all came up together so we were all doing the same things we were all speaking to the same crowd and we were at different levels in our career and i just remember performance wise kendrick will kind of like scream on stage like he didn't sound like he did on the record

But now he's like one of the best performers and he's like one of the, you know what I'm saying, the guys really carrying it for our generation. So to see him like just jump up levels and levels and levels through like hard work and branding and, you know, just being around the right people at the right times, bringing people along with him like Baby King and all of them.

Like, you know what I'm saying? He's just really doing every move to the T of how you're supposed to do it.

Cole is the same thing. It's like, you know, we all started out just the homies like trying to get a verse on each other's tapes and now... Dudes are like elite rappers up there. You know what I'm saying? And it's cool to see him have his own festival. It's cool to see he doesn't have to do as much work throughout the year. But when he does drop, people pay attention how they're supposed to.

He does great tours. And as a performance artist and as a substance artist, I feel like he has the type of career that's all you can ask for. Yeah.

I think that there's levels to it. I think that a lot of people aim for like the surface level where it's like you get one or two things and you're good and that's what takes you to the top. But usually that works against you because you'll have that spike, but then you'll go back down and you'll have to go back up again.

it's really difficult to have that spike and to have that feeling of validation and like, oh yeah, everybody's with me, blah, blah, blah. And then boom, they're not with you. And then you got to try to do something to get them back on your team. So, you know, a lot of people are going to want to go that route, but it has a lot of negatives that come with it on the backend.

And it's a really good time for artists to cultivate a real fan base, whether it be in front of people's eyes or whether it be behind the scenes. It's a really great time to cultivate a fan base of people that understand you, understand your slang and how you dress and what your lifestyle is about and really push that to the forefront. Let that slowly build.

And eventually, whether it's a year, two years, three years, or five years, You know, you're always making a little bit of progress here, here, there. And wherever you land at, you're going to permanently be there.

Yeah.

If somebody tells you that, You better get some drugs and start selling them. Use that money. Flip it. Nah. Get some real estate. Because, I mean, like somebody who only has a year plan in you and they're like, yo, you're only going to be here for this amount of time. They're going to move on. They're going to find other artists or, you know, different people to represent.

And you're going to be asked out. So any artist or any... personality who somebody is already talking about like the the limit of the the lifespan of their career they should definitely be worried and not try to race to you know do the most in that amount of time but to try to figure out how to extend that lifespan so let's take what that person just told you and let's try to figure out

what the next five years looks like instead of the next 12 months.

Yeah, definitely.

I always try to look at least five or 10 years in advance.

What's up, man?

I'm doing way better business-wise than I've ever done. Not just making money, but managing money. And I feel like I'm getting better and better at that. And, you know, that's what's going to take me, you know, into the future as well. Is not only just, you know, the making of the money, but the money management.

I'm chilling, how are you?

My best moves in business is just being accountable for everything. I think in rap music, we get so caught up on the lifestyle. And we're like, I have to have this. Or if it's a new truck, I'm buying that. But me, I'm more like, I'm only going to spend this much on clothes this month. If I want a new car, I'm going to wait a year and a half until I get it. You know what I mean?

Or I'm going to move money from this account to spend on this. So this is here and that's there. You know, we can still pay for tour and, you know, how much are we spending on tour? How much are we making off a tour? How much comes in off of merch on top of the other businesses and things like that?

But really the money management, like the everyday type of spending where it's like, you know, you could get carried away buying too many clothes or, you know, getting too many nice rooms or whatever. You know what I mean? And I have a lot of luxuries that come with my life, but I could also do without a lot of that stuff too.

Yeah, I'm a super chill dude.

So the unnecessary stuff and knowing what the stuff that is not really needed, paying attention to that, not letting just those things just slip through the cracks because they all add up and shit. So I think just being way more conscious of that type of stuff.

Luckily, I didn't get to a point where I overspent or overspent. I just received large-ass amounts of money. And with that comes advice. So it's like yearly or quarterly, we need to have these conversations where it's like, this is what the money looks like. We had to spend for this because of that. Or you had a little bit of fun spending this because

Smoke weed.

So let's just bring it back on this, this, that, and the other thing. And just throughout time of having those conversations, you start to figure out where the unnecessary spending and the problems come from. Or even if you start to create little different issues, you'd be like, okay, this isn't really working in our favor. So we need to wiggle out of this.

Yeah, yeah. First thing? Well, I take my dog outside. I have a Doberman. He's a puppy. But he's a big puppy. He's like, he's 10 months now. And he wakes up pretty early. So I take him out.

And, you know, even if it's spending this big chunk over here, That's going to take away from the continuous spending that's kind of like bleeding and taken away. So just to learn that and have that visual in my head, you know, while I'm making decisions. A lot of people, they feel like they're being controlled if somebody's telling them that. But for me, it's a choice.

It's like, do you want to be broke 20 years from now or do you want to be having more money?

I would see anything and just like it and buy it. It didn't matter how much it cost. If it was a car, I wanted it, I would buy it like right then and there. Sometimes it'd be a watch or something like that. And like a lot of these watches, I don't even have no more. So it's like- You gave them away or sold them? Sold, gave away, lost. Yeah.

Um, it'd probably be like some stocks or it's like some, you know, like a percentage of a business that I've invested in.

Yeah. I've had multiple, but there's some really good ones that, you know, I put some money into that is going to come back in some really good ways.

It's super easy to look up and, you know, however much, just be gone. And when it's gone, it's gone.

And to me, I feel like you have to go through that. You have to really feel that and understand it. And whatever, you know, you believe in, I believe in God. So it's like, that's God telling me like, okay, you spent this much, it's gone. You're going to get more, but you need to deal with the feeling of you having it and it being gone. And then now we'll see what getting more feels like.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember the days before that was the case.

But some people... when they have it and it's over with, they don't even know what that bounce back feels like or looks like. So, you know, unfortunately the best way to learn is to go through it.

Yeah, yeah. But afterwards, like, you know, it's on you after that. Like, you're going to keep doing the same thing over and over or you're going to learn from, you know, what happened.

My relationship with God is the shit. I pray all the time. Thank God all the time. Yeah, a lot of people, there's certain people who don't feel like God is like a higher power or anything like that. But I like to just imagine that my God is just like chilling up in the sky, like with a big, deep voice. The sun could be going down and I could be driving and the Hotel California could be on.

I was in school. So I would just get up and iron my clothes and, you know, go off to school.

I'd be like, thank you, God. Like, you know what I mean? Because like the situation just feels right.

Yeah.

You're welcome. You're supposed to have this.

Yeah, definitely since I was a teenager. Definitely since I was like, I can remember, you know, being in like ninth, tenth, no, probably even like Eighth grade, just praying every night, thanking God for a wonderful day, asking him to bless everybody that I care for. Yeah, just like really cool stuff. Like just normal ass shit that I want the world to feel.

To be safe, I was in a crazy-ass place when I lived in Pittsburgh, so I definitely asked for that safety. The older I get, I ask for patience and understanding and things like that. You know what I'm saying? Just regular shit.

It's super unsafe in Pittsburgh, man. The streets is crazy out there. Friends of mine started getting murdered when I was in seventh grade. I remember one of my first friends getting shot and killed in seventh grade.

I came to Pittsburgh permanently when I was in middle school, and I stayed throughout high school. I probably didn't dip until I was like 23 years old.

You spent two years in Japan. Yeah, every two years I would bounce around. And my mom was always in Pittsburgh, so I would go live with my dad for two years, and then I would come back to Pittsburgh. Then I would go live with my dad, and then I would come back to Pittsburgh. So I was in Pittsburgh in third grade, and I was also there for middle school, and then I came back for high school.

And then other than that, I lived in Oklahoma, South Carolina, Japan. Yeah, those were a couple other places.

I think Japan was my favorite place.

I was in like fifth or sixth grade. Okay.

Nah. I never really fell back off of it. I never had a reason to.

Yeah, it's cool when you're like exploring Japanese culture, but I just realized like as an adult that that shit was kind of fucked up because it was like I'm living on an American base in Japan.

And like just the concept of like Americans occupying Japan was like you'd never find a Japanese base in America. But like, we have the audacity to like go over there and just be like, here, here's our base. We're going to operate as Americans. We're going to send our kids to school here. Don't teach them your language. Nothing is just going to act like America in Japan.

I learned a little bit of Japanese, but it was basic. It wasn't really any diving into the culture or anything like that. It's just you live on post and you travel from one base to another base. And that's pretty much what it was.

Yeah.

It was cool because I was able to just be a regular kid and I was able to like meet friends and different groups of friends and run around and play and knock on doors and ride bikes and climb hills and stuff like that. So it was super chill, man. It was fun just being normal and not really worrying about too much.

I think the older that I got and the more settled that I got in Pittsburgh, that's when I started to figure out who I wanted to be later in life. But in those early years, it was just all about being a kid and just playing with my friends.

For me, it just kind of gets me in a relaxing mood. I have a lot of things on my mind as soon as I wake up. So it's like, here, I'm there, I'm everywhere. But if I smoke, I kind of chill, relax, put everything into its place. I write my goals down. I start to, you know, make some text messages or phone calls or whatever, depending on what the situation is.

I think it was just like knowing that I had talent with music. I always did music since I was younger. My uncles and my cousins were older than me. They were like, you know, 15, 16, all the way up to almost like 20 years old. And I was like the baby. I'm 13 years old. So I'm really kind of trying to do what they're doing. But I'm picking the parts that make the most sense for me. So it's like...

The gang banging and the drug selling and the guns and all that shit. I'm like, that's not really for me. But the looking cool, the having girls, the getting money, the making music. I'm like, I like that part of it. So that's what I always really stuck to. Like just even as a kid, like I was just like, I'm going to just do what I know is cool for me, which is just making music.

And, you know, that's kind of like what led me on my path.

Yeah, I didn't really stay away from it. I definitely like, you know, the older that I got and the more fun I started to have, I kind of was in and out of that stuff, but it wasn't for me, you know? Like just, it's a lifestyle for some people and for a lot of those people, like they're still doing it now.

And for me, it was just kind of like, you know, being a kid or like a rite of passage type thing, or it's like product of my environment type stuff. You know, like the little stuff that I would get into is like, I'm here. So, you know, I'm getting down. Like, I'm not going to be the only one who's not down. You know, you grow out of that stuff too. And you learn from that stuff as well.

So I learned from the things that I did do and I learned from the things I didn't do as well.

Yeah.

yeah it's been really good um having sebastian and having a boy especially at his age um he's 11 now and there's just certain instincts that are starting to kick him you know where it's like he was a young boy now he's like a you know a young man and he's growing into a more of a young man every day really.

And just that programming of, you know, life and discipline and being polite and, you know, on top of you know, just everyday stuff of like handling his emotions with his friends and things like that. It's a really like fun experience going through all of that with him. Cause I'm able to remember what it was like for me as a kid.

So instead of just like telling him the rules and what you should and shouldn't do, It's more like guiding him of how to navigate through these situations, which is really, really fun. And I had that with my dad as well. He was always there for me and talked to me about a lot. And he was way more disciplinary than lenient.

And I'm a super lenient parent with my son, but I'm also like really real with him. And he's able to be real with me and he's able to talk to me about real life things. And when I think about the stuff that I did when I was coming up, No, by the time I was his age, I was doing a lot more stuff because like I said, my uncles and my cousins were older.

And I'm just thankful that I was able to have those experiences and know what's appropriate and what's right and what's not. So I'm able to monitor what goes on with him and what will affect his behavior later. And then just having a baby girl, I think it just adds to it now because I'm able to just give all types of love.

So everything just starts to come into place.

Like I got the tough love with my boy and then I got like just the sweetness of having a daughter, which, you know, helps out a lot.

I think I'm gonna do it pretty much the same. Just like cater to her needs, like whatever she needs. If she's like super girly girl, then we doing ballet and we doing dance and we doing drama and we doing all the girly stuff. And if she's a tough girl, then we doing kickboxing and we doing whatever else to rough her up. We do horseback riding. We do whatever we want to do.

Like, you know what I'm saying? There's no, the sky's the limit, but you know, keep her active, keep her entertained and just cater to her needs.

Um, he loves basketball.

Yeah. He loves to play basketball. He's really just now learning like the fundamentals of it, but he's good at it. He's an athletic kid and he's like, it's good to see him like roughing around with the boys, like being one of the boys. They talk shit to each other. They get in each other's faces and like they really get after it. So he's, he's like gravitating towards basketball more than anything.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.

Just that. And just being with the friend, being with his friends, like just being a kid.

Yeah, hell yeah, I could. I never had like official training, like what he's going through. But if I did, bro, I'd be so much better than I actually am. And I'm really, really good. So I would be like, I'd be deadly if I knew how to do it, what he's learning right now.

It's really like me kind of like just spitballing stuff, whatever it is, like short-term goals of mine, whether it be about clothing, music, family, visuals, content, just kind of like just writing the first ideas, like really short, really just to the point, nothing really crazy. I have a blackboard. So I sit in front of the blackboard and physically write it.

Just like naturally, you know what I'm saying?

Nah, nah, I never did that. I did like acting classes and shit like that. I was in like speech and drama and all of that shit, but never no dance though.

Yeah. I think it helped a lot because it was like, you know, you learn how to project your voice and all of that stuff and you learn how to like... hit cues on stage and, you know, just kind of like get outside of yourself in front of people where you're still yourself, but then you're like outside of yourself. I definitely think that helped for my performance.

I'd be like, let's go. The studio's downstairs.

Studios downstairs. Get in there and start rapping.

Yeah, I wouldn't mind. Especially the way that I'm implemented in the game. Like I do what I want to do. I'm not like, nobody controls me. Nobody tells, nobody's like working me harder than I need to be worked or anything. So I see the same vision for him, especially in the age that we're in. So it's like, if you're gonna be an artist, you're gonna be in complete control of everything.

So it starts now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

A lot of people focus so much on their work and they think like that the work is going to come to an end at some point or they have to sacrifice things that are important for work. And I believe the opposite.

I think I should sacrifice work for my family and it should just be the other way around because of how much that work and how fortunate I am to be in the situation where I put in a lot of work.

I've done a lot of things, so I don't have to feel this sense of urgency that things aren't going to go my way if I miss out on something or if I speak up and just try to make sure that everything works out how I would rather it work.

And, you know, I had the point in my life where I would be in a studio every day, or I would be, you know, a different country every day, or I would be, you know, a show, a fitting, a signing, a TV appearance, blah, blah, blah. I would do all of these things back to back to back to back to back. So I've done that already.

But now it's more important for me to just wake up, work out, spend time with my family, make sure that he is at his best because he needs to go to practice. He needs to train every day for him to be successful later on in life. And if I'm not there to like motivate that, either he's going to get it from somebody else, I don't know who, or it's just not going to happen at all.

And that's my job right now is to make sure that he's successful. So, you know, if I miss this or if that doesn't, you know, go the way that it's supposed to, I'm cool with that. Because in the end, he's going to get to be as successful as he needs to be.

Yeah, I see that better working out long term. Like I said, I look like five, 10 years into the future. And me chilling and me and my family seems way more realistic than me like ripping and running around still. So I might as well get used to it.

Or if I'm in my car or something like that, I'll write it down in my notes. You know what I'm saying? Just to like little reminders and things like that.

It goes on and off just due to like necessity, like how crazy my life is. So I just, I feel like I don't know how long it's been because I do it like so regularly. And then I look back and I see how much I've done. And I'm like, wow, I've been doing this for a long ass freaking time. So I think it's kind of like a second nature type of thing for me.

Yeah, absolutely. My dad was super involved with me, especially through my teenage years. A lot of my time that I spent early in the studio was with my dad because he built a studio and was running it. He didn't know about music and he didn't know about any of that stuff, but I told him I was into it and he built a studio and was like, all right, learn how to use the equipment.

start writing songs, put an album out, do this, do that. And I did it all. And he was like, damn, I didn't know you was really going to do it. I'm like, yeah, this is what I want to do. So just through seeing how important him being involved with what I was passionate about took me to the level that I'm at, it lets me know whatever my son and my daughter are passionate about.

I have to experience those things with them. I can't just give them money and provide it for them. I have to actually do it with them. And that's going to make a hell of a difference.

My dad loves it, man. He's, like, in awe, like, all the time. And I think out of everything, he understands, like, how hard I work, too. And he's really proud of it. Sometimes he gets a little bit worried. Like, he's like, is this too much? Like, you know what I mean? Like, I know you do a lot. I'm like, no, it's cool. I'm built for this. Like, this is what I do.

So he sees how much I work, and he sees how much effort I put in, like, constantly. But he's really proud of me.

The value of family. Yeah, my mom taught me the value of family. She always kept me around my family members. She kept me around my cousins, my aunts, my granddad. She even keeps me around my dad's side of the family. And they got divorced when I was two years old. But she still hangs out with my dad's sisters, my aunts, my cousins and all that on their side. So she keeps me in touch with them.

She keeps my kids in touch with them. she does the whole genealogy of the whole family. Like my mother is so family oriented and that like rubbed off on me as well.

I don't think at this point there is any misconceptions. I think there's just like learning more about me. I think that the more people learn about me, the more they see like how chill, how educated, how well spoken and like thought out a lot of things that I do are.

And they start to really understand why the people who love me, you know, whether it's my music or I changed their life in whatever way, they start to understand like where that comes from.

I think right now I just want people to know, like how you said, like how detached I am from the whole success world. Like I'm cool with it. But that's not the goal. And a lot of people say like, oh, well, you have money, so it's easy for you to say that. But I think you just reach certain points in your life where different things are important, no matter how much money you have.

And some people, I'm 37 years old, some people reach my age And this is the time that they start their business and they're like, I'm going to go hard and I'm going to build my empire now. I was just lucky to have got a head start in my twenties, build my empire. And now I really understand like, you know, how to sustain it and maintain it and keep it going for the next 10, 20 years.

The craziest part of my life. I think the entertainment part is the craziest part. And I think it's because I can go from performing in front of 30,000, 40,000 people to either being in a dressing room, being in a plane or being back in a bed all by myself. And it's like to go from that much energy to just be at all by like back by yourself. I think that's pretty crazy.

And those are the things that I'm really, really working on along with the music, you know, which is super duper important, but it's really just about like making this thing last.

No, yeah, no, it's my work. It's my job. It's what I'm really, really good at. And I don't never want to give that up for, you know, a normal life or anything like that. But I do value my normal life as much as I value addiction. I value the 30,000 people on stage, but I also value being in my bed alone at night when the lights are off. I love it.

Yeah, you have to work on both. And when you know what you're here for, you know which time is to do which one. I spent a lot of time working on the other side of it to where I love my job and I love what I do. And I'm very grateful to be able to make the amounts of money doing what I do. But that's not everything to me. I work as hard on my personal life as I do on that side of it.

If I'm in the studio 12 hours or if I'm on a plane 16 hours and I barely get any sleep and I don't eat and I do promo and I do a great show and I do a meet and greet and I smile and I take everybody's picture, that's all part of the game. That's me going hard to make sure that that part of it lasts. When I'm by myself, I'm waking up at a decent time. I'm going to sleep at a decent time.

I'm working out. I'm spending these certain hours. I do yoga. There's just certain things that go with the process. And then, like you said, planning things around my kids. So it's like, I'm making sure that I'm spending this family time where it's not, they're getting the short end of the stick off of anything.

So I'm working passionately and hard on my normal life the same way that I do in my professional life. And sometimes it takes more energy in normal life than it does in a professional life. I agree with you.

Right.

And a lot of people, they run from that because it's easier to just put all the guilt and responsibility. Oh, I got to work. It's my job. It's this... It's easy for you to do that. Take some time. You know what I'm saying? You know, be a little bit nervous, be a little bit uncomfortable, be a little bit bored, but you're not going to be bored if you're around people you love.

Like I'm never bored around my kids, but you know, take, be passionate about your normal life as well.

Yeah, it's not random at all.

Yeah, it's definitely regimented. You know, I look at my schedule regularly. I'm updating the schedule regularly. And it just really built to make me happy. Like I'm cool with everything that I have to do. As long as I'm happy, like, you know what I'm saying?

And if we talk about it and we arrange it and we put it in all the times that it's supposed to be, I'll be really, really happy and I'll love to do it. But when things start coming out of left field and you have your idea of what an appropriate time is and we didn't run that by each other, like, that's not going to make me happy to do this. And I'm doing this because I love it.

A lot of my big homies were getting, and when I say big homies, I mean security. They were getting into MMA and doing jujitsu and just martial arts and just meeting all types of people.

and this was like almost 10 years ago and they were just telling me like bro this is the next wave like everybody's about to be doing this blah blah blah to send the other thing you got to get into it you got to get into it i'm like yeah it's cool but you know i'd rather like you know smoke weed and be in the studio like you know what i'm saying but as soon as i started working out i just developed like a passion for like out of nowhere

And it didn't make me slow down smoking any. Like I was able to like still get stoned, but I love training and I love working out and I love like learning new things. So it just kept building on top of each other and just building and building. And then I just, you know, started to develop some skills that, you know, we're still sharpening to this day.

Yeah, I got a company called PFL that I'm involved with. I go to their fights all the time. I go to boxing matches. There's wrestling matches. There's jujitsu matches. There's all types of stuff. Combat sports, as you've seen, has grown so much and so many influencers want to do it. It's just a really good lifelong thing too.

it's gotten popular for how much money it makes people and things like that but as a lifelong practice like i would suggest that for any and everybody yeah if there are men who are watching who want to get into health and fitness what would be your best advice for them to motivate them inspire them let them know how important it's been for you and it could be for them

Start working out now. That's hilarious.

I think I've always approached masculinity just off of my vision of it. And the most masculine in people that I respect, and just the situations that I look at as what a man should model themselves as, are usually the most like moderate and mild tempered and just chill and kind of, you know, observant and just guiding the situation.

And any way that you can position yourself to be that type of person, I've always felt like that was the more, you know, respectable thing. And we all have feelings and we all have emotions. And that's where like training in combat sports, it helps you like to put all of that stuff in the right place.

Because when you get a chance to get that stuff out, you realize where it has a place at where it doesn't. And a lot of people, they don't have a place to get that stuff out. So they think that they're being masculine by like shouting or yelling or being rude to somebody. But really that should be like the last case scenario. You know what I'm saying?

Like that's why I say protecting your child because I would never use what I know to hurt anybody unless it was to protect my family or myself. It wouldn't be in any other situation because to me, that's not cool. That's not tough. That's not even what it's for. So I think the idea of masculinity, it just comes from whoever is putting it out at the moment and what they've learned from it.

And, you know, the world judges the way that it does based off of their experiences because they think, you know, the most mean or the most scary or this, that, and the other thing. But they haven't, they show that, but there's not a lot of real situations that people are in that prove that that's the right thing.

You have to have this thing where you kind of wind down and you know what is for where. Like you can't bring the stage home because eventually you have to, you know, wind down and go to sleep and wake up and do it again. And you can't be, you know, too turned off when you're on the stage because you have to bring enough energy to where somebody is way in the back and they can feel you.

And from my experience, what's proven the most is the most mild, chilled, moderate people are the ones that you should probably be like the most worried about. So the more that you can position yourself in life to have an understanding of your own emotions and be in control of your reactions to things.

I think that just makes you more looked at as what people would consider masculine or a leader or a provider or something like that, rather than like an emotional person.

calm it down guide it move it along knows what to do with everything exactly exactly because i've seen both you know and i've been around like growing up in pittsburgh you see a lot of dudes where it's like the street type is like the hyper masculine but a lot of those dudes end up like going to jail getting shot Or when they come home from their jail, they're not who they used to be.

And all of that masculinity kind of goes away when you see the perception of this person go away. You see who they really are. So it's like deep down, who really are you inside without this whole thing that you're putting off on people? And men have... a lot of pressure, especially like growing up. Cause we're more competitive. We're like really competitive.

So it's like, I could see it with my son, like being in sports with him and his friends, you know what I mean? They just off rip, just go to this certain type of personality. And I'm like, bro, You know you're like a better teammate if you tell dudes like, yo, good shot. Like, you know what I'm saying? Good job. I see you, blah, blah, blah. But they don't understand that now as kids.

They're so competitive and they're so at each other's throats.

So it's really just like a projection of like, you know, your energy and how you feel. And the majority of the times I'm in a great mood. I have great interactions with my fans and the people around stage and things like that. So it goes good. I'm in a great mood, but it's just a lot of this goes from really, really intense. And then it could just all just be shut off at one second.

And sometimes that carries on in life. But I think you just have to have an example of somebody to, like, let you know, like, yo, it's cool to just be, like, chill and, you know what I mean? Like, the homie. It's cool to talk shit sometimes, too, because that shit is fun. But, like, at the root of it, y'all still got to be friends and care about each other and take care of each other.

And that's the more, you know what I mean, brotherly dope part about it other than going at each other's necks.

I think just getting punched in the face. You learn how to be calm and not get emotional when somebody hits you in the face and you still got three rounds to do work or you still got three minutes in a round or five minutes in a round to do work. You can't let your emotion... You have to be calm. You have to think. You have to remember your footwork. You have to remember your breathing.

You have to remember defense so you don't get hit again. There's way more... to the story than just I got punched in the face. And a lot of people will never really get that lesson or get that feeling of I got hit and I got to keep it moving. Most people want something to happen as soon as they get hit.

But I think just through martial arts, and it sounds extreme and it sounds crazy, but I think everybody should get punched in the face.

I know what you're saying though I get what you're saying it's like it's only at that point do you know how tolerant and still you are because up until then you can be like I'm super chill I'm calm but it's responding to that yeah and there's a lot of dudes who's like if somebody punches me in the face I'll kill them but like no you won't you gotta fight back you got three minutes or you're gonna keep getting punched in the face so it's like it's fun

when you just remove everything and hit somebody in the face. How often do you get punched in the face when you're- We do sparring off and on, especially because I got to do like appearances and shows and shit like that. Because anything can happen. Like my nose rings could come out. I get black eye. My forehead could get split.

Yeah, for sure. So when I know I'm not having to do too much, that's when we usually do some sparring. Yeah, yeah. Or we'll do light sparring where it's not like, you know, nobody's in too much danger.

Yeah. You know? Yeah. And I think it's like the word masculinity has gotten like so abused to where people like think it's a bad thing. And it's like, There are good examples of masculinity. I have a daughter, so she has to see what a masculine man is like. She has to see what a provider is like. She has to see what somebody who is gonna make her feel protected as well as cared for.

And all of the things that describe what real masculinity is, beyond what you can do physically to somebody or even financially, you know what I'm saying? Emotionally being there for her. There's a lot of things that

And I think that that's like the craziest part to me.

me having the right types of masculinity are gonna be you know positive for her to see yeah 100% 100% man and with this new album what was the energy that you put into it like it's a sequel so there's that there's was there something you're trying to revisit yeah bring back yeah i think i'm just revisiting like when i did cushion orange juice the the the style of it was like

stoner kid, everybody just smoke weed, be cool, be chill. And this is the soundtrack to the lifestyle. And I've done a lot with my music to where I've had my take on what I think music should sound like at certain points. I've had my take on what I think are like really big, huge records and what those should sound like. And then I've also just experimented with

what street culture is at the time and just what's popular to the kids. And I think with Cushion Orange Juice, it really resonated with people because of the lifestyle that it created and the things that I talked about in that lifestyle and the way that the music sounded and grooved with that lifestyle.

So just being aware of that and knowing what type of chaotic state that we're in right now, I just felt like it was the perfect time to just reintroduce people to a more laid back, chill, just smoke some weed and vibe out, you know, and create a whole crowd of people who want to do the same thing.

Yeah.

It's been good because I think just through experience, I've learned that the majority of people who listen to my music end up bossing up.

Yeah, like there's a lot of artists now you know, who were in like middle school, high school when Kush and Orange Juice came out or they watched my day to days and they're like, man, this is what really, you know, let me know. This is what I needed to do to be an artist. Or I studied you every day, blah, blah, blah.

Or I dropped out of college and I got my friends and, you know, we started our label and now we're Big Sean and well, you know what I'm saying? So, Like, I've seen a lot of people who have taken my blueprint and turned it into, you know, exactly what I've done with it.

So I think the message gets across really, really well that, you know, you be a pothead, but you be productive and you boss up and put all the homies on. I think they get that message really well.

Yeah, thank you.

Yeah, it's pretty cool.

It feels good. I think it feels better that I'm able to like walk around. Because most people, they would think that if your video is that popular or if you have that much success that you're just, like, not even real. But, like, to me, I could still go to my son's games. I could still, you know, go pick records out. I could still go to the gym without a fleet of security with me.

So, like, I didn't sacrifice my sanity to be the second most viewed person in the world. So I'm happy about that.

It's a really good song, and shout out to Charlie, too, man. Charlie did his thing, and the whole process of making that song was like a dream come true because it was for a soundtrack, so you never know how that's going to go. There was like 10 other people who were supposed to be on the song, so me writing a verse, I was just writing a verse. I wasn't like, this song's going to change my life.

I need to sit down. I was just like, yo, here you go. It's dope verse. Like I love the verse and shit, but they were like, you know, it really connected with the people who were doing the movie at the time. And, you know, shout out to Weave and Constance and Will and everybody.

But we just kind of like just shaved it down and it just ended up making sense with it just being me and Charlie on there. And that song has taken us like super duper far.

I, my motivation to be sober from alcohol was just, I had drank for so long since I was able to drink. I've been drinking and I never seen a reason to really stop. Cause like, I just love partying. I love being around people. I love, you know, just being a vibe after one, I think it was one show. I just got like completely wasted, which was normal. I was like, man,

I don't really have too many like memories of places. Like, I was like, I mean, I love doing these shows and shit was like, I don't be remembering like, you know what I mean? Anything. I was like, I want to kind of like experience this stuff. Remember where I'm at. Remember the people who I'm dealing with actually enjoy it and not just be like turned up, you know?

So yeah, it was just a time of like just gathering information and I'm real happy for that.

Nah, it wasn't difficult at all. I think when I want to do something, I'm good at it. Like if it means something to me, I have my own reasons for doing it. Nobody's making me do it. Or I feel like even if somebody made me do it, if it was like a challenge or something like that, or if like I had to for legal reasons or something like that, I wouldn't have a problem doing a lot of things.

But, you know, for me, it's just my lifestyle is so free and it's so fun. So half of the time it's like, why would I stop?

But if I make up a reason for myself, I usually end up sticking to it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Last thing I do before I go to bed, kiss my son and my daughter. Nice. Yeah.

Yeah.

Cause it's just too different. You know what I'm saying? Like it didn't sound like nothing. It didn't give off, you didn't get any visual from that back in the day when I told you that that was my name. So a lot of people, close people to me was like, I like you, you can rap, you're really cool, but you need to change your name.

And it ended up working out for me because in the years that I was being discovered, It's a brand new name. So when you Google that name, I'm the only thing that comes up. So it was like one of the most Googled names, like, you know, for that year. So the thing that people told me wasn't going to work, ended up working.

Wiz is short for wisdom and Khalifa is leader and successor.

Because that's... Khalifa, my parents, well, my grandparents, my granddad is Muslim.

Yeah, good look.

I used to really enjoy going to nightclubs. I don't enjoy it anymore. Because? I feel like the music isn't the same. I feel like people don't really dance anymore. They're just in sections, just kind of chilling. And it just kind of defeats the purpose of going out. I never went out just to look cool. I would go out to get girls. And I really don't like chase women all like that no more.

And I think it's just the polite thing to do. Like normally, like, like I say anymore, because like normally even being in a relationship, I would just be like, yo, it's a part of my life. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to be around hella chicks. Get used to it. You know what I'm saying? That's what I would do before.

Like, but now I don't really like, I don't really care for that shit no more.

I would define my current purpose as a leader and as a provider and as somebody who a lot of people look up to. So it doesn't matter what I get personally. It's more about what I do for others.

Smoke weed every day. I love it.

I don't think the feeling is smaller due to the crowd or whatever. I think the feeling is the feeling. It's like when you're on a roller coaster and like you get back and like you're in your bed and you still feel like you're on the roller coaster. It's like, you know what I mean? So I feel like we still have that in common, even though it might be at different levels.

And it's not even always 30,000 people. Sometimes it could be a private event or sometimes it could be an event with some kids or something like that to where it's like you just get really two totally different parts of life. And they're both great. I love my normal life and I love my work life too. It's just the difference between them is crazy.

I think it has a lot to do with my relationship with my fans, because I love the people that I do music for, and they give me a really, really great response and reaction, not only to my performance, but to my music and just the appreciation that they have for it. So I appreciate them as well. And it makes it easier because I enjoy it and I love to create. I love to be on stage.

I love to be in front of people. Yeah, so it doesn't feel like I'm doing anything out of, oh, I just want the money or this is just for this certain reason. It's really, really enjoyable for me. That's beautiful, man.

I think the craziest stuff is when people come up and get me to sign my name on them so they can get it tatted, or they show me tattoos of my face on them. I think those are the craziest interactions. Cause I have tattoos, I'm covered in them. So I know how important that is.

And to be, you know, just me as an artist and doing what I'm doing and to want to have people to want to like tattoo me on them. It's pretty, it's pretty tight.

They do lyrics. They do song titles. They do pictures. They do autographs. They do all types of stuff.

Probably, I got a couple. I got, you know, my mom's name. I got my brother's name. My sibling who passed away. I got my little sister. Yeah, probably like my family tattoos mean the most to me. The rest of them are just like stuff about life that I've learned throughout the way or things that I've called myself throughout life. Yeah, yeah.

She passed away, I think maybe seven years ago. I don't remember exactly how many years ago. It could be like, could be more or less.

She would have been 40 now. So she was probably 33 when she passed away.

We grew up together. Yeah. Same mom, same dad.

I wouldn't say rough because you get through that type of stuff and you learn how to deal with it. But it's definitely a situation that I never would have expected. We weren't sick growing up or anything like that. We were always the same.

so it's like when you get to a certain age you don't plan on losing a sibling and um it was just something that we had to deal with and you know as her health declined it was something that we knew was going to happen so it was like all right cool let's get ready for it you know what i mean and i am grateful that i was able to have like the last moments that i had and

to be able to prepare for it. And, you know, my son has memories of my sibling and things like that. And her birthday was actually on Halloween. So we celebrate every year annually, we throw a party. So yeah, it was definitely an experience, but you know, it's something that I'm still dealing with. Like, you know, like a lot of the times I'm doing like really, really well.

And then sometimes it might, you know, it might hit me to a point where it's like, all right, you know, Let me just slow down and kind of deal with this or just think about it or talk about it or just whatever it is that gets me through it. But, yeah, it's just like a continuous thing.

No, it wasn't really too many rituals or memories or anything like that. I was traveling a lot at the time, so I did make sure that I went home and spent some time with her before she passed away. And then my mom was really the one who was right by her side the whole time. So

I would talk to like my aunt Rachel. We had like, you know, we all just laughed and joked and just had a real good time together. Talk to my mom, talk to my dad, talk to my baby sister about it. I most recently talked to like just one of my other aunties about it just randomly.

Because I feel like we all feel the same and we all have losses and, you know, can relate in certain ways, even though it's not the best thing to be relatable about. But, you know, we feel similar about it. So it's cool to have those conversations and, you know, feel good about it afterwards.

The craziest part of my life, I can go from performing in front of 40,000 people to either being in a dressing room, being in a plane, or being back in a bed all by myself. He is a multi-platinum selling recording artist, mini mogul, and an actor. Did you feel like a big break was coming? I didn't know what that big break looked or felt like, but I knew that what I was doing was working.

Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Yeah, definitely, definitely.

What's up, dude?

Yeah, well, I want people to get... I want you to get stoned for free. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. I'm the homie, you know what I mean?

I've been working on this album for, like, three, close to four years. And early in the process, I asked my fans, like, should I make it a double album or not? And they all told me that I should make it a double album. So it was always my intention to release a lot of music. I just had to figure out a way to make it flow and a way to, you know, put it all together.

But, yeah, I definitely wanted to give people a full-course meal.

Well, I just ate a turkey burger, so...

I've just been growing pot. But for real, for real, I have a really extensive catalog. It's really, really long. So I've been just satisfying everybody on every, you know what I mean? And now I'm back with another album where it's like, okay, let's get back to, and then create another 10, 15 years of legacy.

It's really good, and it's super cool because people are not as afraid of pot as they used to be. Right. So it's like they ingest it in different ways. They eat it, it's cream, it's like CBD where they've taken the THC which got you stoned. They took that out. And now you can just enjoy the medicinal effects of it as well. So you have a choice. As a dad, would you let your kids smoke weed?

When he gets to the legal age, absolutely. Oh yeah? Absolutely. Does he know you smoke weed? Absolutely. How does he know? It's hard not to know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're kind of like this in that suit, though, man. But how did you get 30 pounds on you? What did you, like, what did you do? And how did you just get into working out? I joined a gym in L.A. It's called Unbreakable. Right. They put me on a meal plan and diet and all of that stuff. And it's a lifestyle thing. So it's something that I'm going to do, like, for the rest of my life.

I see myself making a whole lot of music. I have a label, Taylor Gang, and I have a lot of artists that I focus on as well. Chevy Woods just put out a project called 81. We just signed Skate. We got a bunch of other people who's been working on music, Burner, Tukey. We got producers like TM and things like that.

So just as long as the music is getting out there, it doesn't even matter if it's one of my albums. Just as long as people get stoned.

We can do many things. We can pack it up and fly on any plane. We can take a lesson, you'll be trained. Show you how my lifestyle be days. We can have a little baby. Take you to the crib and do some free things. No vitamins, I'll give you all these. You fuck me like a five-star free baby.

She cool with y'all, but she wanna be with Taylor Gang We can do many things We can pack it up and fly on any plane We can take a bus and a pin train Show you how my lifestyle be days We can have a little baby Take you to the crib and do some free things And the vitamins I give you all deep You fuck me like a five-star freak, baby And we ain't spend time in a minute

Knowin' I'm the one on your mind, intuition Told you you wasn't gonna be mine, and I meant it Knowin' you gon' pull up and vibe with me anyway We can do a million things We can pack it up and fly on any plane We can take a lesson, you'll be trained Show you how my lifestyle be dazed We can have a little baby. Take you to the crib and do some breathing.

Show you how my lifestyle be day. We can have a little baby. Take you to the crib and do some breathings. I buy them as I give you all D. You fuck me like a five-star fee. Let me know what you're buying.