How do you raise a good communicator? How do you teach kids to be kind but not a pushover? And what actually matters when it comes to parenting? In this episode, I’m sitting down with the two people who shaped my life the most—my parents. This is a personal one. But whether you're a parent, thinking about becoming one, or just curious about how childhood shapes the way we communicate, I think you’ll take something valuable away from this conversation. This episode is sponsored by Cozy Earth. Upgrade Your Every Day. Get 40% off at cozyearth.com/jefferson or use code JEFFERSON at check out. Like what you hear? Subscribe and leave a 5-star review! Order my book: The Next Conversation Suggest a topic or ask a question for me to answer on the show Want a FREE communication tip each week? Subscribe to my newsletter Join My School of Communication Watch my podcast on YouTube Follow me on Instagram Follow me on TikTok Follow me on LinkedIn Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What inspired the start of the podcast?
Welcome to the Jefferson Fisher podcast, where I'm on a mission to make your next conversation the one that changes everything. If you enjoy learning tools to improve your communication, I'm gonna ask you to please follow this podcast. And if you would, leave a review. My new book, The Next Conversation, is out to order.
You can find the links there in the show notes, as well as my School of Communication and Membership. Today, I cannot be any more excited to be speaking and bringing to you some people that mean the absolute world to me, where it all started, and that would be my parents. Hey, Mom. Hello. Hey, Mama. Hey, Dad.
How are y'all?
Doing great. Awesome. Are y'all comfortable? You're all good? You bet. So for anybody listening, this is the very first time I've ever had a guest, and so I want to make sure that my first guest that I ever had was going to be y'all. Yeah. And make sure that this was important to me and that y'all knew how much I loved y'all and how thankful I am for everything you've done for me.
This is the very first time I've had guests, so we're just going to make it work. Anybody listening, they know how my style is and they know that this is just a... a casual conversation. There's none of this that is pre done or set up. Y'all really don't have any idea what I was going to ask you. Uh, and mom, you look beautiful. I know you were worried about what y'all are going to wear.
Y'all did. You did great. Yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah. So I want to make sure we're all good and comfortable. And so I have some have some questions. There's some that I pulled from people that follow my content that I put out on social media. And I also had some of my own. So I want to.
Here's my plan for this is for anybody listening, we're going to talk a few things about Jefferson, because I know there's some curiosity of how did this guy get so weird about communication? And on this other end of making sure that we're giving very practical solutions and techniques of how y'all raised me and my siblings, I'm the oldest of four, for anybody that doesn't know, how y'all...
kind of laid the strategy for how you wanted to be parents. So I'm going to ask right at the outset, is what was the main themes and thoughts and hopes and prayers before you had children before you had made anybody out there that is hoping to have children, they have very new kids, what were some of the things that was very important to to y'all?
Sherilyn, you go with that one.
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Chapter 2: Who are Jefferson's first guests and why?
Yeah, I feel like it's a, the people that are charismatic tend to be very warm.
Yes.
It's just something about them that you like to listen.
Yeah, you're always very caring.
Like to listen to them. Well, I feel like, I mean, you had, until Sarah, my sister, was born, it was just me and you.
Yes.
Really for four years.
Absolutely.
So how, I mean, that's a very pivotal time.
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Chapter 3: How did Jefferson's parents contribute to his communication skills?
Yeah. Yeah.
And so I wasn't a yeller. I really wasn't.
That's true. I can attest to that.
I really wasn't a yeller.
Very rarely.
Very rarely. But my level, because I maintained a really...
calm voice most of the time like if I raised my voice because I was aggravated let's say on a scale of 1 to 10 I raised it to a 4 y'all would say mama you don't need to yell and I would be very offended because in my mind that was only a 4 because I was like no no no you don't understand I used to hear 15 at my house right yeah a little bit different yeah I would be highly offended because I was like this is not yelling this is just raising my voice because I'm aggravated yeah
You said one other thing a little bit earlier, I think it's really important, is the willingness, not only the willingness, but to do it, to say, I'm sorry. I was wrong in front of your kids. I would say that to my wife. I was wrong. I'm sorry. But to say it to your kids. Yeah. Because sometimes we can misjudge what they did or why they did it.
You know, maybe one they're picking on each other and one started it and you jump to a conclusion too quickly. And it's important to be able to say, I'm sorry, I was I was wrong. Right. I was wrong. Will you forgive me?
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Chapter 4: What parenting strategies did Sherilyn Fisher use?
Like, for example, dad, you would tell me if I came to complain about something, you'd say, don't make that your Alamo. That's what you'd say. You say, don't make that your Alamo. In other words, don't, don't be that, let that be the hill to die on. And there was this kind of sense of, so, you know,
I mean, the kind of the, when Jonathan was upset that mom was all in his business, and mom just, and you say so? I mean, there are just things about that. I'm just curious what the balance was like for y'all, what y'all saw.
You want to go first? You go ahead. I don't remember you having a problem with assertiveness. You were always very assertive. You were never timid. And you did it with a cheerful disposition. You had a very cheerful, assertive disposition as a child. And you were rarely disrespectful. And because we had a zero tolerance for that, you quickly, quickly stopped.
And so I don't remember us having to encourage you to be assertive. What I can remember doing is is sitting down and. And explaining maybe how do you deal with disappointments or something that didn't go well. Yeah. Don't worry about it. Right. And be thankful. That was one thing y'all hated, you know, say, well, give me 10 things that you're thankful for. Yeah.
And that's a good way to deal with a child. You know, when you start, well, I'm thankful for Daddy and Mama. Yeah, yeah. You know, Sarah and Jonathan. No, no, not family members. What are some things you're thankful for? The downside was is when I'd get upset, y'all would turn it on me. I said, Daddy, there's 10 things you're thankful for. Yeah, yeah. Turnabout was fair play.
But y'all really were. Y'all were sweet children. And I give that to your mama because she – She demanded respect, not only for herself and for the parents, but for y'all to respect each other and to defend each other and to be kind to one another. I don't remember y'all ever coming to blows. No, that was never in the question. And, you know, every now and then y'all would nyan-nyan.
But she really did a good job of saying, that's enough.
Yeah.
How did you see that, mom? Maybe not with just assertiveness, but on top of how you when when we say zero tolerance policy, what was your mindset of what you how you would handle me or any of us when we said something that was disrespectful, which I'm sure was very few times, mama?
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