The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Give Me That Plain Stick (feat. Lucy Rohden)
Mon, 24 Mar 2025
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Chapter 1: What makes The Big Suey podcast unique?
Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.
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Chapter 2: Why is Lucy Rohden gaining sponsorship attention?
I see that Lucy Rodin is now radiant and just filled with superstardom. I am told by others that the sponsorship dollars are coming her way because people want to be associated with the Rodin brand. Why are you smiling, Zaslow?
That makes sense. I see she's a very busy young lady. I've never talked to her before.
Okay, well, welcome to Zaslow. You're meeting Lucy for the first time. Do you guys want to tell each other anything weird about each other? Zaslow is super weird. Zaslow is a strange, strange person who doesn't own a coat.
Well, because I live in Cooper City. Like, I haven't needed a coat. And then ESPN springs on me, hey, you're going to travel the entire country during college football season. I'm like, okay. And then I learned not everywhere is the same weather as Cooper City.
Did you get the Disney passes? Of course. Oh, I missed that. We have to talk later.
Billy misses them so much. So much. Lucy, welcome. We will talk March Madness with you in a moment. But before we do that, I saw that you were loving all of the Ben Affleck. You've fallen in love with Ben Affleck, it appears to me, based on your social media postings.
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Chapter 3: What is Lucy's take on Ben Affleck's dating life?
I'm not like in love with Ben Affleck himself. I'm in love with watching Ben Affleck's dating life. He wakes up and he goes, hmm, what Jennifer is it gonna be today? I don't think he's ever met a woman in his life not named Jennifer. He just can't decide between the two. A few weeks ago, he said, hey, Jennifer Gardner, it's you again. I'll make it work if you want to make it work.
And then she came out and she said, I don't want to make it work. That's not true. Right after two weeks ago or a few weeks ago, he was like a finally officially divorced from Jennifer Lopez. And then like a day after that, they were like, just kidding. They're trying to make it work. He's back with J-Lo. And then a few weeks prior, he was like, I'm done with J-Lo. I'm over J-Lo. That's done.
And then a few days before, he's like, I don't know. Something good could happen with J-Lo. He just can't. He can't choose a Jennifer. And I know that he's going to spend the rest of his life jumping from Jennifer to Jennifer to Jennifer. And I can't wait to watch.
Jeremy, why are you smiling?
I was just thinking of how incredible Ben Affleck is in terms of his weird dating life and what Lucy said. The fact that he's just oscillating between these Jennifers for, what, like 30 years?
Why is it weird?
It's one Jennifer or another? I'm trying, Jennifer. They're good Jennifers. They're good Jennifers. They are good Jennifers. Well, not J-Lo.
Whoa.
I'm not a J-Lo guy. We've done this before.
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Chapter 4: How did Duke perform in March Madness?
Well, I thought the Jennifer information was really good, and that actually kind of hurt my feelings a little bit, because that's something I'm very passionate about.
I'm sorry, forgive me. But don't worry about that, Dan. I meant the good sports information. I'm sorry. I should have.
You know, I'm going to say jumping from Jennifer to Jennifer is almost a sport. I would agree that that might be true. Duke Baylor, this is one of the games we went to. It was one of those things where I left being like, thank God I picked Duke to win my bracket, because it is insane how good they are.
Even with Cooper Flagg in foul trouble early in that game, it is just like there was one point where Duke had this insane lob dunk, and Jeremy Roach, former Duke player, I saw him close up just look at Baylor and go, there's really nothing we can do about this.
Baylor had given up because Duke was such a dominant team, and this was falling right on the heels of Florida-Yukon, where Florida was supposed to kind of cruise. That's also been the very popular pick to be the national champion. It is just remarkable how good Duke basketball is right now.
And they kind of feel like the clear favorite for me to win the national championship through this March Madness so far.
Did you show up for the game before also?
Yeah, the Florida UConn one? Yes. I would love to live life never having to watch Florida try to shoot free throws again. I think that would be really good for me emotionally and spiritually. It was one of those games where the first half was like, oh my God, this is what you guys must feel like when I talk about Iowa football. Nothing is happening. This is like, why are we doing this?
There's so much defense and there's nothing fun happening. It gave me some pause with Florida. The free-through line issues are something that it's going to haunt them if they continue to play the way they did. I don't necessarily agree with Dan Hurley's take that they were screwed. Yeah, Dan Hurley thinks they were cheating. Dan Hurley's always thinking stuff. He's a professional yapper.
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Chapter 5: Which fan base stood out during March Madness?
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She's so good at this. She's really good at it. It's amazing.
Well, this is why she's a rising star in the business, that all the sponsors want to be around her. Billy, you were very excited by... No, it's just the transitions have been seamless.
I don't know if you've even noticed this. Fans on YouTube can notice it. While she's doing new spots, the logo in the corner changes. She talks about game time. There's a game time logo. There's a Priceline logo. There's a Jimmy Johnson logo. It's incredible.
Early rounds in the women's tournament. I found the men's stuff to be disappointing, and I wanted more, and usually the chalk in the women's tournament advances easily early on, and that's not a lot of fun to watch.
I don't necessarily know if it's not a lot of fun to watch. I think that watching what UConn did to Arkansas State is fun in a sick, sadistic, twisted way. Yeah, that tends to be sort of the case with the women's tournament. I don't know if it's just like the talent gap between the best teams in women's college basketball or the fact that it's at home venues.
But I thought it was a pretty decent start. You did get One pretty notable upset in Kansas State beating Kentucky. That ends Georgia A. Moore's college career. And she was electric this year at Kentucky and was just must-see TV when she was at Virginia Tech. And so I thought that was a pretty big upset. That game went into overtime and ended up being a pretty good one.
Kansas State, they are always a sneaky team. But I view it less of the sense where, like, the men's tournament, we're very used to the – 15 beating the two every year or something nutty or crazy happening. So you kind of have to take a different approach of like, you're watching the women's tournament to watch the best at what they do.
We're like, you're watching the men's tournament for like slop and it upsets and craziness. And so I thought the good, I thought the first round, which is still going on today, there's still some more games happening, has been pretty good for the women so far.
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Chapter 6: What are the challenges of NBA draft decisions?
So I've talked about this a bit recently on ESPN Radio with Cooper Flagg, where we're in an age where, OK, he could make as much staying another year at Duke as he would his first year salary, almost as much maybe in the NBA, even if he's the number one overall pick. You enter the draft, you see the Wizards or the Hornets. These are godforsaken franchises, okay? I don't want to go play there.
You pull out of the draft, you're going to go back to school at Duke, you know, because being the big man on campus, pretty awesome, really fun life, and you're going to make a lot of money. But the pushback that I've gotten, and it is interesting, the pushback that I've gotten is...
If you stay another year in school, you're delaying yourself another year of getting that first contract after your rookie deal. And that first contract, by the time he gets there five years from now, I mean, it's like a $200-plus million deal.
The thing about money to me and these conversations that are most interesting is I wonder if I go back to retired athlete and say, hey, at 50 or 60, what would you pay? to have another year of college before it became the big giant business of pressure.
Because one of the things that happens when you arrive at these kinds of successes and become an economy for things is that you get to the pros and now it's just a lot of responsibilities. You thought it was going to be fun, but you're running a business and You might like the playing.
You're not going to like actually very much the practices and the shoot-arounds and all the meticulous sculpting in basketball. But if I gave anybody in our audience, how much would you pay to go back and have a year of college as Cooper Flagg, not as yourself? Oh, my God. Not as yourself, as Cooper Flagg.
What would you pay to have another year of that before you go become Kyle Kuzma and just start wandering around alleys in Washington because 9,000 people are watching your games?
How about the kids that got drafted out of high school? Would you ask them, would you rather have gone to college instead of going straight to the pros?
I mean, the reality is these endorsements are carrying over either way, right?
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Chapter 7: How do retired athletes view their college years?
But he made a lot more money because he left after being a rookie than getting hurt at Duke. Like Cooper Flagg just got lucky that that ankle injury wasn't a lot worse. If he gets through this March Madness unscathed, this man has to go to the NBA draft because if you risk another potentially big injury like Zion would have had in college, then you never get that contract.
That's what I was going to say. I mean, Zion escaped it. That shoe thing could have been a disaster for Zion. Why would you risk getting injured in college for $4 million in NIL money when you can get a $12 million guaranteed base salary?
Yeah, but we're talking about that as if the career-ending injuries are a common thing. That doesn't really happen, actually.
But it's one less contract, right? Jimmy Butler is a perfect example here of at the end of his career. You're shorting yourself of one last contract. And right now, the contract that they're giving out to a max player at 35, 36 year old is two years, $120 million. Imagine what that's going to be when Cooper Flagg is there 15 years from now.
You might be missing out on that last payday because you didn't go for one more year of college where you can make $5 million. It makes no sense. Hey friends, it's Jarabear here, and I'm here to tell you all about Boost Mobile, which is now a legit nationwide 5G network.
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