The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hour 2: The Truth About The Belichick Ring Cam Story (feat. Pablo Torre)
Mon, 12 May 2025
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Chapter 1: What is the controversy about Draymond Green being called an 'Angry Black Man'?
I want to get to Pablo Torre and his reporting. It seems excessive. Eleven people, eleven journalists, eleven sources on a story that is just supermarket tabloid junk. But before I do that, the exact Draymond Green quote, and it's a great one. I'm not an angry black man. I'm great at basketball. I'm great at what I do. The agenda of trying to make me look like an angry black man is crazy.
I'm sick of it. It's ridiculous. I think calling him the angry black man is almost the fairest time that you can ever say that in sports. And be able to feel like you can quantify it. Your play suggests you're angry. It's part of why you're great.
It's part of why you're crazy. Why are you guys making me punch my teammates? Why are you guys making me put Rudy Gobert in a chokehold?
Why are you making me kick other players in the balls?
Everyone knows I'm going to get ejected and miss a game before the finals. We all know this. You're going to get suspended.
Shame on all of you.
So Pablo, Draymond Green, angry black man, yes or no?
Was für eine Eile ist das? Ich will in die andere Eile sein. Ihr seid in der, äh, kann man diesen schwarzen Mann wirklich wütend nennen Eile. Ich will sagen, dass Draymond Green sehnsüchtig herausstellt, dass Flagrenzen nicht gegen seinen technischen Wert zählen. Schnell und brillant.
Quiley Brilliant, if that's a solution to not being banned himself, is to just flagrant foul people instead of technical foul people.
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Chapter 2: How do the panelists analyze Draymond Green's behavior on and off the court?
Ist Draymond Green schwarz? Ja.
Judge Saslow rules.
Yes. Is he indeed a man?
He's gonna trap you.
Judge Saslow rules that he is a man.
Is he an angry black man? No, not at all.
Judge Saslow rules that Draymond Green What? Very good ruling. Judge without prejudice.
I like the show where we find out if the judge is guilty.
I like that show. We're headed there. That never happens in my courtroom.
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Chapter 3: What did Pablo Torre uncover about the Jordan Poole and Draymond Green incident?
Hast du uns die Top 5 Fakten über deinen Pablo Torre Finds Out Story gegeben, oder gibst du uns nur deine besten Pablo Torre Finds Out Stories? Was machst du?
This is all from the Belichick episode. That's a longer list. By the way, is there a sound? Anyone else hearing that sound?
What sound? There's no sound. What sound are you talking about? Is that your headphones?
Is that something happening with your... The faint sound of birdsong? No. No, that's not happening.
Is that the CBS Sunday Morning sound? Listen, this guy who interviewed Belichick, you tell me if this sound right here is how any human being talks or is this just a broadcaster being extra cheesy broadcaster because he's on CBS Sunday Morning and he's got to trap Belichick and his young girlfriend.
You're probably thinking the same thing I was when I sat down with Bill Belichick. Der jetzt 73-jährige ehemalige NFL-Coach war nicht interessiert, über seine vielen Erfolge zu blöden. Fußball ist alles für Belichick.
Niemand spricht so, aber das ist, wo er Belichick gecornert hat, und es gab keine Bewegung um ihn herum.
Der andere Veränderung für Belichick ist der 24-jährige Jordan Hudson, sein kreativer Muse.
That last three words? His creative muse. Not objective journalism right there.
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Chapter 4: What makes Pablo Torre's investigative journalism unique in sports media?
Absolut. Am 1. Juni, Mann, schau dir das an, schau dir das Kontrakt vor allem an. Am 1. Juni, der Kauf von der Belichick-Seite von 10 Millionen Dollar zu 10-mal weniger, zu 1 Million Dollar. Und die Theorie war, das war, weil er es wollte, wenn die NFL umgekehrt kam und sagte, oh, ich würde gerne Bill Belichick haben.
Ich kann dir sagen, die NFL hat keinen Wunsch, mit Bill Belichick zu arbeiten, besonders nicht jetzt. And then the question becomes, does Bill want to remain there? If his bosses are actually saying, look man, you can't operate this way. You can't embarrass our school this way. In which case, he may not feel like he's in charge anymore. In which case, is it really worth it?
If all you want to do is sit in the front row of the Miss Maine pageant, watching your girlfriend at age 24 get second runner up. If that's what he wants out of this, I'm not here to yuck his yum. This is not a story about an age gap relationship. This is a story about power and who gets it.
And everybody around Belichick got walked over by a very ambitious young prodigy named Jordan Hudson, who is driving that program into the ground. That is why I'm reporting the story. It's not because it's fun and funny and because they're 28,000-year-old dildos. That is merely the happy side benefit of what happens when you open up the mystery box and find what's inside.
Pablo, does this story have a happy ending? Well... Es ist schwer, keine Bobcraft-Referenz hier zu machen, wenn du diese Frage fragst.
Pablo dominierte diese Geschichte von Anfang an. Es ist eine furchtbare Sache, es zu sagen. Er war der Erste, der berichtet hat, dass Jordan als Agent von Bill vor Monaten arbeitete. Er kann P-Body nominiert werden, aber das ist die Geschichte, die er bekannt werden wird. Es ist furchtbar. Er ist auf MSNBC. Ich wünschte, ich könnte mich zurückkämpfen. Nein, es ist schrecklich.
Das ganze Ding ist schrecklich. Es schämt dich. Es ist schrecklich für Journalismus, dass du die Klicks dieser bestimmten Geschichte ausfällst.
Aber Pablo, es ist fair zu sagen, dass die einzige Grund, warum C.B.S. Warren sogar über diesen Teil seiner Geschichte in der Beziehung gesprochen hat, ist, weil Jordan gerade dort sitzt und die ganze Zeit unterbreitet hat. Hätte das nicht passiert, hätten sie vielleicht das Thema sehr leicht überprüft, aber direkt dorthin geraten.
Und zu deinem Punkt, er hat einfach sein Buch promotiert und es als Puff-Piece gemacht.
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