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S2 Ep1018: Andrew Weissmann and Patrick Gaspard: Naked Corruption

10 Apr 2025

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Just before he paused the tariffs on Wednesday, an unusual spike in activity on the S&P 500 prompted speculation that Trump was orchestrating an insider trading scheme. After the markets closed, he joked with *the* Charles Schwab about how the financier had made $2.5 billion in trades that day. Meanwhile, Trump ordered the DOJ to investigate two former officials he regards as enemies—this comes on the heels of his efforts to intimidate law firms from taking on clients who oppose him. Plus, Trump's long obsession with white South Africans, and do Democrats listen too much to grassroots activist groups? Andrew Weissmann and Patrick Gaspard join Tim Miller. show notes Andrew's Substack Rep. Steve Horsford questioning whether the tariff pause was market manipulation

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0.169 - 21.998 Tim Miller

Hey, everybody. Real quick announcement. We got a doubleheader today. Just finished it. It's awesome. Andrew Wiseman gives you everything you need to know about Trump asking his DOJ to go after two whistleblowers from his first administration. Just a really chilling announcement. I needed to get Andrew on at the last minute here to make sure you guys had all the info on that.

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22.398 - 34.463 Tim Miller

And then we have a new guest, Patrick Gaspard, who is the ED of the DNC a while back. He's done everything really in the Democratic Party. And I thought it was just a really great conversation. So just to make sure to stick around for that. All right. One other scheduling thing.

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34.964 - 56.114 Tim Miller

I had some issues juggling a guest for tomorrow's pod because I'm flying to Coachella, as you guys know, taking three days off, not listening to the news, not reading your emails. I'm just enjoying my happy place in the desert. And because I had a guest scheduling issue, we've got we got somebody sitting in tomorrow and it's going to be great. You're in great hands.

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56.934 - 79.468 Tim Miller

So do not skip the podcast tomorrow. You will really enjoy it, I promise. But I had this Catholic guilt that I was abandoning you on a Friday. Instead, I am joining Sarah for the secret podcast. Every Friday, Sarah and JVL have a secret pod that's for Bulwark Plus subscribers only. It's one of the very few things that we do not offer for free.

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79.749 - 100.796 Tim Miller

It's just one of the little bonus lanyards for our Bulwark Plus members. So if you need a Friday Dose of Tim, This is your moment to join Bulwark Plus. It's going to be me and Sarah. Just go to thebulwark.com slash subscribe. You can check it out. We're going to talk about our feelings. We're going to vibe out. It'll be great. And I'll be back here, as usual, with Bill Kristol on Monday.

101.316 - 130.179 Tim Miller

So up next, Andrew Weissman. Hello and welcome to the Bulldog Podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller. He's back. He's a professor of practice at NYU Law School. He was a lead prosecutor on Bob Mueller's investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election. And he was chief of the fraud section at DOJ. He co-hosts the podcast Main Justice with Mary McCord and his sub stack is behind the headlines.

130.199 - 132.441 Tim Miller

You figured it out by now. It's Andrew Wiseman. How you doing, Andrew?

133.061 - 146.791 Andrew Weissmann

Good, good. I am always assuming when you ask that question, you're asking it sort of very limited personal scope, because otherwise, you could go on for a really long time, which is actually the subject of what we're about to talk about.

146.811 - 169.536 Tim Miller

Yeah, extremely limited personal scope, because otherwise, things are not great when you're kind of like, the unofficial political prosecution correspondent of the board podcast that's like trump goes after a new person i'm like we got to get why we got to add wiseman to the schedule for tomorrow um since uh you know one of these days he might be in the barrel on this uh so you know

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