
This week on That Was Us, Mandy, Chris, and Sterling discuss the importance of the “strays always find who needs them” theme running through the episode, from William’s cat Clooney to the lost pieces of each character’s past. Kate finally sees Madison, Kevin finally sees the sacrifices Jack made, and Randall realizes William’s lost love is the view from his window – but at the heart of this story is Randall’s desire to connect with William and his former life. Plus, the hosts also chat with Olivia Allen who shares how the show inspired her family to reconnect with a loved one. That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Taylor Goldsmith and Griffin Goldsmith. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?
On today's episode of That Was Us, we will be discussing Season 2, Episode 12, titled Clooney. Kate goes wedding dress shopping with Madison. Kevin embraces sobriety and moves in with Rebecca. Randall digs into William's past. And the Pearsons go to the mall.
Hello, friends.
What's going on, people? How we doing today? I'm having a wonderful morning.
Chapter 2: How do the characters deal with their past?
I'm glad to hear it. Oh, man. What's happened so far? Can it rub off on me a little bit, please?
Well, let me tell you, last night in the evenings, Bear likes to rock out before bed. Hey, Dad, can we rock out? What does it look like? It looks like him up on the couch holding a ukulele. and me playing whatever rock song he's never heard before. So I give him like a new rock song. And last night I played him Smells Like Teen Spirit for the first time. Okay. And he lost his effer-loving mind.
Did he really?
He loved it.
Loved it. Loved it. And so this morning on the ride in, I re-listened to Nevermind, like front to back.
Oh, cool.
And I was like on the 10 freeway,
Transformed back in time. 16 years old. Yeah, yeah.
Like, so excited to see you guys. That's awesome. Yeah, I'm amped up. He likes to rock out. Apparently. That's amazing. Apparently. And Aoife just sits there and head bangs. Yeah.
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Chapter 3: What are the themes of connection and family in the episode?
Oh my goodness.
It's just, you got the snapback.
No, no, I don't have the snapback. I have the pillow hiding. Is that what it is?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, strategically placed for those on YouTube.
Exactly, exactly.
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Come check us out. How about it? So this is, it's entitled Clooney. My first question I have, we all know because we've read the scripts and et cetera, et cetera. Do you think the audience remembered who Clooney was when they first see the cat running across the screen?
No.
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Chapter 4: How does Kate's relationship with Madison evolve?
It was absolutely perfect.
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Then we go to Kev and Barbara, and she's talking about the need for structure in his life. And I don't know if going back to Hollywood is necessarily like the right thing for you at this moment. Kev says, I got an idea. Like I'm actually, my mom and I had this great conversation. I'm thinking I'm gonna go and stay with her, right? Which I think is,
Like after going through everything that we just went through, like, do we have anything with each other, et cetera? He's like, I want to spend some time with my mom, right? He goes and Miguel's there and they're all talking to each other and like, you know, maybe we'll go grocery shopping.
Grocery shopping, yeah.
Grocery shopping. And Miguel's like, you know, I'll come along too, right? And you see Kev just like... Hey man, I'm trying to spend time with my mama. Here you are up in the spot." Miguel's like, yeah, I'll come along too. So anyway, we go to the dress shopping with Kate and Madison. I'm gonna take you dress shopping. She's very excited. It's a really sweet offer too.
Like after listening to her thing in OA, et cetera, I'm jumping all around. Like, should I continue with one of these thingamajiggas? Why don't we go to the mall? in the past. Okay. Let's go to the mall in the past.
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Chapter 5: What challenges does Kevin face in his sobriety?
Would you believe it?
Yeah.
And Mandy, that was funny. It was.
Oh, gosh. Rebecca, she sometimes has a sense of humor.
But the overarching theme of this interaction, which if we want to stick with this one for a second, was really interesting to me because it is a... not often discussed angle on this situation. We've obviously already talked about Kate's insecurity around clothing, clothing size, trying on clothes, all these things. But what we come to find out through this whole miniature storyline
as it relates to the present day, is that she is a little self-sabotaging on this trip, which I can relate to. She has a dress that fits, but it's not good enough. She needs to try the next dress down.
Yeah, which doesn't fit.
Which doesn't fit, and then go, see? yeah see and it's this i have no value i have no value and it's an interesting as as as the as the quote unquote family of addicts conversation that was started in the in the previous episode it's an interesting thing that alcohol is not the problem food is not the problem these are solutions sure these are these solutions for people.
I see what you're saying, yeah. They're like, this makes me feel better. Right. Doesn't work.
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Chapter 6: How does Randall navigate his relationship with William?
Yeah.
And so then later in the episode, he goes back up to, I don't even know if this redhead chick knows who he is. Like, I'm wondering like where the, I'm sure something. They know each other from school. They know each other from school. And he asks if she would go out with him. And she's like, and he's like, well, you know what? Maybe you should consult the eight ball before you get a chance.
And what does the eight ball say? Try not to think too hard about it or something like.
Yeah, it has her name on there.
It does have her name on it. Oh, it did?
Yeah.
Yeah, it had her name on it. I didn't catch that. So she's smiling. I was like, he got a little charm, a little smile. And so ultimately she does wind up going out with him. But that was sweet to see what happens. And it's also because... There will be personal resonance when we get to later on in this storyline.
Yes.
With like how it all ultimately winds up playing out. But that's the summation of that.
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Chapter 7: What lessons can be learned from the characters' struggles?
I do.
We'll get there.
There's many seasons. I do. But was Garrett Moore, do you know he was coming? Or was that like- No. Was that a day of type? Just a day of like- You've got to be kidding me. Garrett Moore's? You've got to be kidding me. Totally.
Cool. Yeah.
Very cool.
What a great job.
It's a great job. Michael O'Neill. I have a story. You have to remind me of the Michael O'Neill story because he was on Army Wives. He lives in my neighborhood. Does he really? Anyway.
We see each other all the time.
Okay. We'll get there when we get there to Michael O'Neill. Yeah. We'll be right back with more That Was Us. Life can pull us in so many directions, kinda like our characters on This Is Us. And when things get hectic, finding time for yourself isn't always easy. That's why we love Peloton. Peloton has the convenient and varied instruction we all need to stay on track.
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Chapter 8: How does humor play a role in the show's narrative?
I'm her child.
Well, you don't have to protect her from me. I'm her son. And he says, well, I'm her husband. And then he says, he being Kevin says. My father was her husband.
I was like, okay.
Yeah, yeah. Good thing Rebecca was getting eggs or whatever.
That was so ice cold. Because again, Justin's delivery is never like sort of like, Justin doesn't go hot. He just goes like matter of fact. You know what I'm saying? It's the shiv. It's the prison shiv that you don't see coming. You think you're talking to each other.
Didn't even feel it.
Look down, you got blood on your hand. And so later on, Kev is upstairs in whatever his upstairs bedroom is because clearly Rebecca and Miguel's house is bigger than- Than Randall. Than Randall and Beth's, right? But there you guys are watching like some sort of home- Renovation show, yeah. Home renovation show about the tiny homes, et cetera.
And just having the best time and just laughing and smiling, hugged up under each other's arms. And Kev walks down and you see Rebecca sort of separate. from her husband and like, what's up, man? You need something? And he's like, no, I was just, you know, coming to see what's going on. I can't remember exactly what, but then later he goes to the kitchen.
Him and Rebecca have a conversation saying, I noticed when I came downstairs, you kind of separated from Miguel. Like, was there a reason why? And she says,
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