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Something Was Wrong

S23 Ep9: Bad Marriage

03 Apr 2025

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*Content warning: Pregnancy loss, miscarriage, death of a child, infant loss, death, birth trauma, medical trauma, medical neglect, racism, mature and stressful themes.  *Free + Confidential Resources + Safety Tips: somethingwaswrong.com/resources    Moms Advocating For Moms S23 survivors Markeda, Kristen and Amanda have created a nonprofit, Moms Advocating for Moms, in hopes to create a future where maternal well-being is prioritized, disparities are addressed, and every mother has the resources and support she needs to thrive: https://www.momsadvocatingformoms.org/take-action https://linktr.ee/momsadvocatingformoms  Please sign the survivors petitions below to improve midwifery education and regulation in Texas https://www.change.org/p/improve-midwifery-education-and-regulation-in-texas?recruiter=1336781649&recruited_by_id=74bf3b50-fd98-11ee-9e3f-a55a14340b5a&utm_source=share_petition&utm_campaign=share_for_starters_page&utm_medium=copylink  *Sources: American College of Nurse Midwives https://midwife.org/  American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) https://www.acog.org/  A Midwife’s Approach to Getting Labor Started https://avivaromm.com/labor-induction-low-natural-approaches-midwife-md/  Bathing Your Baby https://www.healthychildren.org/English/ages-stages/baby/bathing-skin-care/Pages/Bathing-Your-Newborn.aspx  Fetal presentation before birth https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/pregnancy-week-by-week/in-depth/fetal-positions/art-20546850  Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA) https://www.cdc.gov/phlp/php/resources/health-insurance-portability-and-accountability-act-of-1996-hipaa.html#:~:text=The%20Health%20Insurance%20Portability%20and,from%20disclosure%20without%20patient's%20consent.  March of Dimes https://www.marchofdimes.org/peristats/about-us    National Midwifery Institute https://www.nationalmidwiferyinstitute.com/midwifery   North American Registry of Midwives (NARM) https://narm.org/    Office for Civil Rights https://www.hhs.gov/ocr/index.html  State investigating Dallas birth center and midwives, following multiple complaints from patients https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/investigates/state-investigating-dallas-birth-center-midwives-following-multiple-complaints-from-patients/287-ea77eb18-c637-44d4-aaa2-fe8fd7a2fcef    Texas Administrative Code Title 26, Chapter 503 - Birthing Centers https://regulations.justia.com/states/texas/title-26/part-1/chapter-503/subchapter-d/section-503-34/  Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation (TDLR) https://www.tdlr.texas.gov/    Texas Health and Human Services Birthing Centers https://www.hhs.texas.gov/providers/health-care-facilities-regulation/birthing-centers What Happens at Appointments Once My Baby is Born? https://www.communitycaremidwives.com/faq.html#:~:text=Midwives%20provide%20care%20for%20both,six%20weeks%20after%20the%20birth.&text=breastfeeding%20support.,their%20family%20doctor%20for%20care.  Zucker School of Medicine, Amos Grunebaum, MD https://faculty.medicine.hofstra.edu/13732-amos-grunebaum/publications    *SWW S23 Theme Song & Artwork:  Thank you so much to Emily Wolfe for covering Glad Rag’s original song, U Think U for us this season! Hear more from Emily Wolfe: On Spotify On Apple Music https://www.emilywolfemusic.com/ instagram.com/emilywolfemusic Glad Rags: https://www.gladragsmusic.com/  The S23 cover art is by the Amazing Sara Stewart Follow Something Was Wrong: Website: somethingwaswrong.com  IG: instagram.com/somethingwaswrongpodcast TikTok: tiktok.com/@somethingwaswrongpodcast  Follow Tiffany Reese: Website: tiffanyreese.me  IG: instagram.com/lookieboo

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0.329 - 10.703 Tiffany Reese

Wondery Plus subscribers can listen to Something Was Wrong early and ad-free right now. Join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.

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11.598 - 30.819 Narrator

When a young woman named Desiree vanishes without a trace, the trail leads to Kat Torres, a charismatic influencer with millions of followers. But behind the glamorous posts and inspirational quotes, a sinister truth unravels. Binge all episodes of Don't Cross Kat early and ad-free on Wondery+.

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31.528 - 50.32 Tiffany Reese

Something Was Wrong is intended for mature audiences. This season contains discussions of medical negligence, birth trauma, and infant loss, which may be upsetting for some listeners. For a full content warning, sources, and resources, please visit the episode notes.

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51.36 - 76.971 Tiffany Reese

Opinions shared by the guests of the show are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of myself, Broken Cycle Media, and Wondery. The podcast and any linked materials should not be misconstrued as a substitution for legal or medical advice. Origins Birth and Wellness owners and midwives Caitlin Wages and Gina Thompson have not responded to our requests for comment.

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93.727 - 95.647 Mr. Ballin

You don't know.

130.931 - 162.399 Brittany

Hi, my name is Brittany. I was a birth photographer out of origins. I rented space from Gina and Caitlin. That began 2015. I had a birth photographer for my oldest son. Capturing the emotions from his birth was so special to me, and I just wanted to be involved with birth. I love it. I have photographed over 200 births, probably close to 300 now.

162.419 - 178.17 Brittany

I was a surrogate for Caitlin Wages in July of 2017 while officing out of origins as a birth photographer. I worked very closely with Gina Thompson and Caitlin Wages during this time.

180.009 - 188.136 Tiffany Reese

Speaking to the relationship that you had with Caitlin regarding being her surrogate, how did that conversation come about?

188.156 - 213.549 Brittany

It was a big decision. I actually had a dream about being a surrogate. It is something that I had thought about many times. My business partner, who I was doing photography with at the time, and I were moving in to our media room and office upstairs at the Burst Center. Gina and Caitlin were getting the birth center all set up.

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