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#577 - Behind A Serial Killer's Mask - Lenexa, Kansas

Thu, 13 Mar 2025

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This week, in Lenexa, Kansas, a lifelong con man slowly evolves into a prolific serial killer, luring women in with promises of jobs, money, and kinky sex, but all they ended up getting, was murdered. All of this, while maintaining the image of an upstanding father, husband, kid's sports coach & Sunday school teacher, but also running a residential brothel, and recruiting sex partners, under the screen name "Slavemaster"!!Along the way, we find out that BBQ, or spinach are apparently the only foods available in Kansas, that if someone offers you a job, that includes strange sex, that might be the best job, and that just because someone wears a tie, and combs their hair, it doesn't mean they don't have several bodies, rotting in oil drums!!New episodes every Thursday!Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com and use our email: [email protected] to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports!Follow us on...twitter.com/@murdersmallfacebook.com/smalltownpodinstagram.com/smalltownmurderAlso, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Wondery, Wondery+, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?

28.84 - 57.95 James Petrigallo

This week in Lenexa, Kansas, a vicious serial killer uses lies and promises of jobs to lure women into his horrifying trap of murder and strange perversions. Welcome to Small Town Murders. Hello, everybody, and welcome back to Small Town Murder.

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57.97 - 59.894 Unknown Speaker

Yay!

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60.275 - 75.202 James Petrigallo

Oh, yay indeed, Jimmy. Yay indeed. My name is James Petrigallo. I'm here with my co-host. I'm Jimmy Wissman. Thank you, folks, so much for joining us today on another absolutely crazy edition of Small Town Murder. We have another serial killer this week.

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76.242 - 100.031 James Petrigallo

Didn't plan on having two within three weeks of each other with Haddon Clark a couple weeks ago or whatever, but this is a completely different guy than Haddon Clark. Couldn't be more different. This is almost like if BTK had social skills. This is who he would be. Put it that way. Yeah, you know, BTK was weird. Nobody liked him. If he was a good con man, he would be this guy.

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100.172 - 114.883 James Petrigallo

This would be his dream would be to be this guy. Like, I'm sure he was looking at him with like wide eyed admiration the whole time this was happening. So we'll talk about all that and more. First of all, head over to shut up and give me murder dot com. Get your tickets to live shows.

115.163 - 134.353 James Petrigallo

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134.393 - 153.338 James Petrigallo

So get your tickets now. I am going to have some crazy smoking apparatuses to show Jimmy and force him to smoke out of. So it's going to be a lot of fun. We can't wait. Then get your tickets to regular live shows as well. The next ones are in May, St. Louis and Chicago. St. Louis, I think, is sold out. So Chicago is your best bet. Unbelievable. You guys are great.

153.478 - 170.546 James Petrigallo

All the shows for the rest of the year are selling very fast. A few are already sold out. So if you would like to go, you need to get them right now. ShutUpAndGiveMeMurder.com. As well as you should listen to Crime and Sports and Your Stupid Opinions, our other two shows. Crime and Sports. We're in the middle of a long Evil Can Evil series, which is insane.

170.586 - 175.788 James Petrigallo

Vince McMahon just entered the picture, so you want to check that out. And then you want to get Patreon.

Chapter 2: Who is John Edward Robinson III?

491.297 - 519.104 James Petrigallo

People in this town, 56,755. It's grown a good amount in the last 20 years, a lot, which is after our story took place. There's more males than females here, which is odd. It's a strange thing. Slightly, but more. The median age here, it's so average. The median age is 38.3. In the nation, it's 38.4. So they're right on. Right there. It's a very kind of a lot of married families and shit here.

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519.124 - 543.195 James Petrigallo

58% married. It's 50-50 in the rest of the country. Race in this town, 79.7% white, 5.3% black, 3.8% Asian, and 8.4% Hispanic. Religious, 56% religious in this area, too. Oh, that's steep, isn't it? And the most are Catholics somehow. I don't know how. 19.5, we snuck in there, I guess. Yeah, that's odd.

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543.235 - 570.051 James Petrigallo

Catholics are the Baptists of, I don't even know, Missouri, Kansas, the Midwest, the wheat belt, I guess we'll say. Unemployment rate is very low here, 3.2%, which is even lower than the national average, which is pretty low. Median household income, very high here, too, $96,477 a year. Well, what is that about? That's a lot. It's just a wealthy little suburb.

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570.451 - 586.161 James Petrigallo

Yeah, it's 20 minutes to Kansas City if you don't want to live in Kansas City. And I guess I'm sure there's more crime, probably smaller properties, stuff like that. You want to avoid him at all costs, usually. You want to avoid Joe Buck.

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587.381 - 589.421 Jimmy Wissman

He shampoos with Lenexa.

589.661 - 607.244 James Petrigallo

Absolutely. Cost of living, that's how he got all his hair back. The cost of living here, it is $106 out of $100, so a little bit higher than the average. The median home cost is actually higher than the national average, which you wouldn't expect for suburban Kansas. But median home cost here, $404,300. Jeez.

610.605 - 643.323 James Petrigallo

Which seems a little bit steep, but let's find out what they have here with the Lenexa Kansas Real Estate Report. Average two bedroom rental here goes for fourteen hundred dollars a month, which is above the average. Yeah. Here's a three bedroom, two bath, eleven hundred square foot house. So not that big of a house, really, at all. It's a standard little ranch house inside. Pretty dull.

643.643 - 669.073 James Petrigallo

Everything's about 10, 15 years old. It's you know, it's fine. Two hundred eighty five thousand bucks, though, for that house. Which seems a little high to live in Kansas. I don't know. Here's a five bedroom, five baths, a tea bowl for each and every b-hole right here. 3,400 square, six square feet. So good size house. It's really weird though.

669.553 - 684.122 James Petrigallo

The they've done the inside, like, you know, redid it and all. And it's very strange. Let me show you a picture of the kitchen. Look at the back. It's got the black countertops with that weird... Oh, it's that little subway tile. It's little black subway tiles.

Chapter 3: How did John Robinson's criminal activities begin?

777.595 - 778.115 Unknown Speaker

Rural-ass Kansas?

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778.135 - 785.559 James Petrigallo

No, people would leave there. There's not a lot holding people to Kansas, I would think, because you could just move to Missouri, or there's a lot of states to move around to also.

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785.619 - 789.061 Jimmy Wissman

Right here. Jump on the river and flow downstream away.

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789.121 - 818.591 James Petrigallo

I'll just float to Louisiana if I have to. Things to do here, the Great Lenexa Barbecue Battle. We're going to have a fucking throwdown right now. Who's in? Hundreds of pitmasters compete in the Great Lenexa Barbecue Battle each year. The battle is the state's largest barbecue competition. Pitmasters. Pitmasters. In 1984, Governor John Carlin declared it the official Kansas State Championship.

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819.231 - 830.995 James Petrigallo

This is the official here. This is the big one. This tells you you can have the best ribs in the state. Governor decreed. So they hosted it, sanctioned by the Kansas City Barbecue Society.

832.035 - 834.476 Jimmy Wissman

Oh. Yeah. Masterpiece themselves.

835.396 - 854.297 James Petrigallo

They have a lot of power. You have no idea. They can have you thrown in jail for nothing, really. They have the power to ticket vehicles. In Kansas City, the barbecue really rules the roost. I mean, anything could happen. So it started in 82 with 12 teams and 12 judges and no prize money.

855.117 - 865.261 James Petrigallo

Now it attracts 200 teams of grill people, and the grand champion wins $3,000, which doesn't seem like a lot for 200 teams competing for.

865.281 - 868.182 Jimmy Wissman

If you took $20 per team...

Chapter 4: What was John Robinson's involvement in the BDSM and S&M underworld?

1718.093 - 1734.864 James Petrigallo

He would go out to bars after work and hang out all night while Nancy took care of the kids, which was semi-normal, actually, back then for guys to do that. Yeah. But known to have many girlfriends, not just like one night stands here or there. He's got like girlfriends on the side. He thinks he's a gangster or something, this guy.

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1735.124 - 1735.845 Jimmy Wissman

Relationships.

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1735.945 - 1747.593 James Petrigallo

Yeah, he's a failed x-ray tech and he thinks he's a gangster. So in 1966, he's hired by Dr. Wallace Graham as an x-ray tech at the Fountain Plaza X-ray Lab.

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1857.801 - 1884.79 James Petrigallo

Okay, Robinson, again, still doesn't know how to do x-rays, but he's very good at stealing. He's really good at that. Is he hot? He's a charmer, boy. He's a salesman and a fucking charmer. That's what he is. That's what I mean. He's the opposite of Haddon Clark from a couple weeks ago, who was like a weird recluse homeless man. This guy is the opposite of that. This is who BTK would dream to be.

Chapter 5: How did John Robinson orchestrate adoption fraud?

2971.542 - 2988.825 James Petrigallo

You needed. Walk on some eggs. Needed to walk on eggs. I've never heard it put that way. So meanwhile, he is terrible. He takes shit care of his animals. His horses are half starved to death all the time. His dog's in bad shape and he's beating the shit out of Nancy.

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2989.409 - 2990.829 Jimmy Wissman

Everybody's walking around on eggs.

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2991.21 - 3014.877 James Petrigallo

Yeah, he's fucking throwing them at people. He's beating the crap out of his wife. Neighbors occasionally heard him yelling at his wife and children and ordering them around like he was in the military. The children would follow his orders. The children, though, later on, they'll become all good kids, by the way. Really? Yeah, so that's helpful. Nancy must have been a decent mother here.

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3016.177 - 3024.311 James Petrigallo

Nancy ends up beginning divorce proceedings at this point. Don't worry. It's not over. They have some counseling and then she's back in.

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3025.494 - 3025.614 Jimmy Wissman

Yeah.

3026.388 - 3052.548 James Petrigallo

March 1979. He is discharged from federal probation with an excellent report from his probation officer, obviously. He became the employee relations manager at Guy's Food, which is a subsidiary of Borden, from what I understand, what I found out here. It's a grocery store or a food distributor type of deal. He had an affair with a secretary. Hell yeah.

3053.008 - 3059.591 James Petrigallo

And then she helped him embezzle thousands of dollars by inventing fake employees and cashing their checks.

3060.612 - 3060.912 Jimmy Wissman

What?

3060.932 - 3071.037 James Petrigallo

Yeah. This secretary was in charge of adding new people to payroll and stuff like that. So he fucked her and had her add new non-existent people to payroll so he could steal.

Chapter 6: What were the consequences of John Robinson's actions?

4393.345 - 4396.931 James Petrigallo

Yeah, which is what the Amazon review killer did. Yeah. The police.

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4397.092 - 4400.017 Jimmy Wissman

Every letter about when somebody goes missing or.

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4400.037 - 4401.299 James Petrigallo

I don't want to be found.

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4401.7 - 4405.887 Jimmy Wissman

Yeah. They're probably murdered, right? Leave me alone. They're dead.

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4406.167 - 4419.853 James Petrigallo

Any leave me alone letter, they're probably murdered unless you had beef with them to begin with. Right. So the police said, we're not pursuing that case either. We have no evidence of anything. So Steve Hames, though, was like, I don't know, this guy's shady. The probation officer's thinking here.

4420.393 - 4441.694 James Petrigallo

He said he learned from Lisa Stassi's relatives that he learned that Robinson had had her sign four blank sheets of stationery. Two letters arriving shortly after she disappeared look suspicious. They didn't sound like Lisa and they were typed. We know that she can't type. So the probation officer asked John Robinson where Lisa Stassi was.

4442.075 - 4462.914 James Petrigallo

Robinson claims she had run off to Colorado with a guy named Bill again. So Hames is like, I don't know about this. He said, this guy's a con man. It's very possible that he turned into a murderer of vulnerable young women here. So he called the FBI supervisor again and he said, you might have to take a look at this. He said, we've got two women and a baby missing.

4462.954 - 4485.414 James Petrigallo

We've got Robinson crossing state lines. So the supervisor said, all right, let's assign two agents to it and take a look. So over the next few weeks, a couple of agents here began looking at him and looking at everything here. They discovered Robinson was involved in a shitload of ongoing criminal activities in the Kansas City underworld here.

4485.434 - 4485.915 Unknown Speaker

Really?

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