This week, in Wantage Township, New Jersey, a crazy relationship between a male stripper, and his law student girlfriend seems ready to explode, since he's opened credit cards in his infant's name, and hid naked women under his son's crib. In the end, this woman's mother ends up brutally murdered, with a weapon we haven't heard ever used in this way. Was it all just self defense??Along the way, we find out that there are farms very close to New York City, that when your mother hates your boyfriend, she'll always hate your boyfriend, and that that the worst place to hide a naked woman, is under your son's crib!!New episodes every Thursday!Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com and use our email: [email protected] to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports!Follow us on...twitter.com/@murdersmallfacebook.com/smalltownpodinstagram.com/smalltownmurderAlso, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Wondery, Wondery+, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Chapter 1: What is the premise of the 'Murderous Male Stripper' case?
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Chapter 2: What is the background of Wantage Township, New Jersey?
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Okay.
That's how they say it. It's in northern New Jersey here. It's about an hour to the northwest of New York City, which I know sounds so weird if you're not from the area. You go, but New Jersey's over here and New York's over here. Yeah, but the city goes here and Jersey's inland. It's a whole thing here.
What? Northwest?
Northwest of New York City, yeah.
That's a long distance, yeah.
Very commutable, though, an hour from the city. Two hours to Philly and about an hour and 40 to Neptune City, New Jersey, which was our last New Jersey episode, episode 529, Murder Audition, which was a crazy episode. That's the one where the kid got caught in the car. His friend filmed him and did the whole sting operation on him because he killed that girl for no reason. It was horrifying.
Yeah.
We'll talk about that. This is in Sussex County, area code 973. Population in this town, 10,831. Okay. So a pretty small town to be an hour from the city. It's not bad. Median household income here. is pretty high compared to the national average. National average is about $69,000. Here it is $88,563.
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Chapter 3: Who are the key individuals in this case?
With each other?
I don't know what's going on. It's not a good area to retire in. It's the Northeast. Yeah, it's cold and wet and expensive. Three stars here. I've grown up here for the majority of my life, and I really like it. I love seeing all the animals everywhere. Sometimes it's sheep. Sometimes it's cows. We get it. Farm animals. If you said sometimes it's a Yeti, that would be interesting.
Otherwise, I don't know. You definitely have to get used to the farm smell, though. Yeesh. Yeah. I just wish places were closer together. You can't really walk place to place. Yeah. It smells like poop. And it smells like shit. It's an hour from the city, though. That's not bad. And then finally, three stars. Only a few restaurants. Mexican, Greek, and an inn. And there are two diners. That's it.
I can't believe there's no Italian joint around here.
It's fascinating that that's the only thing they want to talk about.
Done. Cuisine, that's it. That's it. Not even if it's good or not, just only a few restaurants.
These exist. Bye.
We have these. Things to do. Just filling in on this, just what we have. Things to do, the Wantage, New Jersey Harvest Festival, which takes place at the Holy Spirit Orthodox Christian Church.
Around October-ish.
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Chapter 4: What is Paul Foglia's relationship with Gina and her family?
Ginny, Verge. Verge is a big one. Verge is real popular. My mom had a friend named Verge. She was a mess. So bizarre. Oh, she was this crazy, loud, drunk lady, and we'd have to go to her house, and she was a disaster.
I like Vi or V. Both of those are good.
That's not bad.
Verge is just weird.
Gina's usually not for this. Not Virginia. Not Virginia, but she goes by Gina. She's born October 1969, and she has a brother named Joseph as well, Joey Leota over here. Sure, sure. So she grows up in this area. Her mom's name is Elizabeth Lott, L-O-T-T, and Elizabeth is born in 1937, and So, you know, obviously a good amount older than her daughter.
Now, Elizabeth here, they're like an educated family.
Nice.
Like a smart family. Sure. Now, it's funny because Elizabeth didn't start out like that. She didn't start out as having like money and status in a town. She was born in West Virginia as one of 13 children of a coal miner.
Wow.
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Chapter 5: What events led to Elizabeth Lott's murder?
You know what I mean? Sure, sure. Paul, by the way, is from a completely different background. His family is trailer people. I don't know where his father is. He lives in a trailer with his mother most of the time.
Nobody had any forethought to try to have some generational cycle breaking.
Absolutely not. And he comes home stinking of 45 different women's perfume to a trailer with his mother. So that's not great. Wow. So at this Thanksgiving dinner, Paul comes over. He takes a fucking bite of the food that Elizabeth has made, this feast for the family, and spits it out. Why? Tells her it's gross. Your food is terrible. Okay, this is his first time there. You pretend it's good.
You can't choke something back, man. I hate Thanksgiving food. I go every year to my brother's house and I eat it.
It's Thanksgiving food that he's having? Thanksgiving.
You know what he's eating. Just eat it. And he spit it out? Goddamn turkey.
You've had it before. You're dead.
You've had it dry. You've had it without taste. Just eat it. It's fucking fine. Chew it more. It's ridiculous. Well, she used salt and he doesn't like salt.
On what?
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Chapter 6: How did Gina find her mother, and what was her reaction?
Now, Gina is going to end up graduating from law school in 2003 when she finally graduates because she was going kind of on and off. And, you know, it's hard when you have two kids to go to like everyday law school. Yeah. So she does that. Somehow they continue this relationship. Through all of it. Through the naked woman under the crib.
That's a deal breaker, isn't it?
I would hope. I would think that would be where it's like, okay, this relationship's over. There's literally a naked woman in my son's room under the crib. This is crazy. I smell sex on her still. If you saw that in a movie, you'd go, that's funny, but it's far-fetched. It's something that would be in The Hangover. You know what I mean?
Like a naked woman jumps out and the wife's like, what the hell's going on here? Right.
Is Mike Tyson in the closet and going to beat me up to Phil Collins songs?
Is there an Asian in somebody's trunk? What's happening? So anyway, she gets pregnant again in 2003 from Paul. My God. Jesus. So Elizabeth, mom, was very upset that Gina was having another child with this fucking idiot. She's like, oh, my God. Seriously? Please tell me someone else knocked you up. Fuck.
So the son was born, and Gina said that she believed that Paul loved his children, but he didn't support them financially at all. Now, for all intents and purposes, they, quote, break up. But they don't really break up. They're still kind of together. This is a very toxic, sticky relationship. It's ugly. So Gina is living with her mom in this nice big house, in the dream home.
And I guess while this is happening, Elizabeth does not want Paul to visit the home when she's not there. Right. She said, I don't want him here when I'm not here. He can obviously visit his kids, but I don't want him in the house when I'm not there. So that's interesting. Gina said, quote, I was hoping he would get a job and find an apartment where the kids could visit. Yeah, right.
That'd be nice. Yeah.
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