Serialously with Annie Elise
258: Rich Brothers, Affairs, and a Bloodbath | The Kissel Brothers
Mon, 07 Apr 2025
This week on Serialously with Annie Elise, The Kissel brothers seemed to have it all: money, power, and success. But behind the scenes, their lives were unraveling in the most disturbing ways. Scams, affairs, and betrayals led both men to violent, bloody ends—one found bludgeoned to death in his own home, the other poisoned in a twisted plot straight out of a crime novel. Were these cold-blooded executions part of a diabolical scheme, or did their dangerous secrets finally catch up to them? 🔎Join Our True Crime Club & Get Exclusive Content & Perks 🔎 Join The Club: https://www.patreon.com/annieelise 🎧 Need More to Binge? Listen to EXTRA deep dive episodes every week on Apple! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/serialously-with-annie-elise/id1519456164 Follow Annie on Socials 📸 🩷Instagram: @ _annieelise 💜TikTok: @_annieelise 🗞️ Substack: @annieelise 💙Facebook: @10tolife ⭐️Sponsors ⭐️ Mint Mobile: Shop plans at Mintmobile.com/ae. Hello Fresh: Get up to 10 FREE meals and a free high protein item for life at HelloFresh.com/ae10fm. Hiya Health: Go to hiyahealth.com/AE to receive 50% off your first order. BetterHelp: Visit BetterHelp.com/AE to get 10% off your first month. Helix: Go to helixsleep.com/serialously for 20% off sitewide. Shop Annie’s Closet & Must-Haves! 👗 Poshmark: https://posh.mk/Tdbki6Ae0Rb ShopMY: https://shopmy.us/annieelise Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/shop/10tolife?ref_=cm_sw_r_apin_aipsfshop_BKN1ZMCMEZHACVFQ2R75&language=en_US Disclaimer ‣ Some links may be affiliate links, they do not cost you anything, but I make a small percentage from the sale. Thank you so much for watching and supporting me. 🎙️ Follow the podcast for FREE on all podcast platforms! Apple:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/serialously-with-annie-elise/id1519456164 Spotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/6HdheEH8WeMTHoe5da34qU All Other Platforms: https://audioboom.com/channels/5100770-serialously-with-annie-elise Get Involved or Recommend the Case 💬 About Annie: https://annieelise.com/ For Business Inquiries: [email protected] Episode Sources 🔗 Associated Press Bloomberg CBS News Dateline EastSouthWestNorth Blog Forward.com Greenwich Time Investigation Discovery Lifetime Murderpedia NBC News New York Magazine New York Post NJLux Real Estate Oxygen.com Rutland Herald Shutterstock Sotheby’s International Realty South China Morning Post Stamford Advocate The More We Know The New York Times The Standard *Sources used to collect this information include various public news sites, interviews, court documents, FB groups dedicated to the case, and various news channel segments. When quoting statements made by others, they are strictly alleged until confirmed otherwise. Please remember my videos are my independent opinion and to always do your own research. •••••••••••••••••• Disclaimer: The views and opinions expressed in this video are personal and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of any other agency, organization, employer, or company. Assumptions made in the analysis are not reflective of the position of any entity other than the creator(s). These views are subject to change, revision, and rethinking at any time and are not to be held in perpetuity. We make no representations as to the accuracy, completeness, correctness, suitability, or validity of any information on this video and will not be liable for any errors, omissions, or delays in this information or any losses, injuries, or damages arising from its display or use. All information is provided on an as-is basis. It is the reader’s responsibility to verify their own facts.
Chapter 1: Who are the Kissel brothers and what led to their downfall?
Kissel scammed banks, investors, neighbors.
A year later, just days before he was about to plead guilty, Kissel was found brutally murdered.
American expatriate Nancy Ann Kissel was convicted of the murder of her husband, 40-year-old investment banker Robert Peter Kissel.
It was the question of was she or was she not an abused spouse.
We know Nancy and Robert Kissel because of the milkshake murder.
Two incredibly successful brothers, but suffering this same tragic fate.
Hey True Crime Besties, welcome back to an all new episode of Serialist League. Hey everybody, welcome back to an all new episode of Serialistly, with me, your true crime bestie, Annie Elise.
Now, the case we're talking about today, I don't want to say, hmm, I don't want to say that it's a throwback one, but I've never talked about it on this channel, on my podcast, on my YouTube channel, I've never talked about it anywhere. And it's one that I remember when I was first getting into true crime, I was really curious about, because I
Es gibt Elemente von extremen, extremen Wachstum, Verletzungen, Verhandlungen, ich meine, Brüder kämpfen, all diese Sachen. Und wenn ich mich richtig erinnere, und ich denke, ich bin es, ich denke, es gab sogar einen Lifetime-Film darüber. Ich muss es überprüfen. Ich bin ziemlich positiv, dass es da war. Aber anyway.
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Chapter 2: What happened to Robert Kissel and how did his disappearance unfold?
I mean, the possibilities felt endless. Which also meant that the list of suspects was endless. If he did not disappear voluntarily, it really could have been anybody involved. However, one person that they definitely did not suspect was his brother Andrew. Ich meine, sicher, ja, sie hatten ihre Tensionen in den letzten Jahren, all diese Brüder-Rivalität, die ich vorhin erwähnt habe.
Aber zuerst einmal, Andrew, er lebte eine halbe Welt entfernt in den Vereinigten Staaten, er war nirgendwo nahe Hongkong. Außerdem hatte er auch einige Probleme seiner eigenen, einige Probleme, die ihn viel zu beschäftigt haben, um sich mit Robert zu kümmern. Siehst du, Andrew hatte immer ein bisschen Interesse daran, Shortcuts zu nehmen.
Du weißt, die Art, du weißt, die Art, die Art, die Art, die Art, die Art. Und im Grunde genommen, wenn es jemals eine Situation gab, in der es so sah, als ob er einen einfachen Geld machen könnte, war Andrew alles drin. Aber obwohl Andrew, du weißt, alle Geld, Geld, Geld, alle Zeit, hatte er auch eine andere Seite, eine Familienseite. Er hatte eine Frau namens Hayley und zwei Kinder mit ihr.
Jetzt sprechen wir über Hayley, weil sie auch sehr erfolgreich war. Sie passt so gut mit dieser ganzen Kissel-Familie ein, die sich um sich drückt, das Beste macht, das Beste macht. So viel so, dass sie eigentlich ein Olympia-Level-Skier war an einem Punkt. Sie hat auch ein bisschen Zeit als Stockanalystin gearbeitet, bevor sie verabredet wurde.
Hayley war einfach super klug und kam aus dem selben Welt, aus dem die Kissel-Brüder kamen. Ein Welt voll von alten Familienmoneyn. And remember earlier how I said that Nancy, Roberts' wife, was a lot like Andrew? Well, Hayley was basically the complete polar opposite of Nancy. She was very poised, very reserved, very quiet.
And whenever she was out in public, people would just kind of take notice of her true elegance, her demeanor. She wasn't ever flashy or showy like Nancy was. She didn't spend a lot of money. She just was very, what's the word, you know, proper and old money but classy and nice.
And it's funny how the brothers, you know, total personality opposites, sort of ended up marrying the female versions of each other, right? I mean, it's kind of interesting. It's almost like they did like wife swap or something. And you know what? Now that I really do think about it, there was a Lifetime movie about this case, about these brothers. And you know who played Andrew?
John Stamos, Uncle Jesse. I totally remember it now, although I don't remember the name.
What have you done? I've made us money, Hayley.
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Chapter 3: How did Andrew Kissel's financial schemes unravel?
Sie schlägt raus. Sie kann es nicht erinnern. According to her, she wasn't trying to kill him back then when she did that, but she was worried about the way that he was acting around the children. She says he was aggressive. And Nancy claimed that by drugging him, it really was the only way and the only thing that she could think of to get him to just like chill out and behave better.
She also said that she did the same thing at one point while they were living in Hong Kong. But then after that, she ended up dumping out the bottle and never even thought about it again. Except, of course, you know, for the night that she ended up, you know, murdering him.
But even with that story and honestly quite a bunch of people who were on her side and believed her, it only took the jury eight hours to reach their decision. Nancy was guilty and her sentence was life in prison. But this was far from over. Now, after Roberts' murder and with Nancy now in prison for the rest of her life, their kids needed a place to live, right?
So after the trial ended in 2005, Roberts' brother Andrew and his wife Haley took all of these kids in with no questions asked. I mean, obviously they would do anything for their nieces and nephews. And it also probably didn't hurt that they were going to be inheriting Roberts' entire estate, which, by the way, was worth 18 million dollars.
Now, in theory, you would think that Andrew and Haley wouldn't care at all about his brother's money. Even with Andrew's history of scamming, he wouldn't want to steal from his own brother and his own brother's children, right? Especially after Robert was brutally murdered. Right? Well, as it turns out, the money that Andrew had taken from his building's co-op, it was just the tip of the iceberg.
The whole time that he had been doing his supposed real estate work, you know, supposedly making tons of money with these brilliant business deals... He was actually ripping people off. He filed multiple mortgages and remortgages on huge properties, forging signatures saying that his loans were paid off when they definitely weren't. And then he just shuffled the money around to fund his next scam.
One of Andrews scams included going to multiple banks and getting mortgages on the same property at all of them. So each bank thought that they were the only one giving him the money. But actually he was collecting a bunch of different loans all at once. And while that's super illegal, it was a lot easier to pull off in the mid 2000s than it would be today.
Back then banks didn't have the same fraud alert systems that they do now. And honestly it sounds like they weren't really looking too hard either because they wanted his business so badly they just kind of made it work. But the crazy thing is, Andrew kept doing this over and over and making, or I guess I should say stealing, millions of dollars in the process.
He did this so many times and on such massive properties. So much so that this money was really starting to stack up. And he was able to get away with all of it because he basically dressed well, he knew the right people. Remember, he knew how to like grease the elbows and talk to people and be super charming. So they all assumed that they could just trust him. But eventually, he got caught.
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Chapter 4: What was the impact of Andrew's actions on his family and associates?
So you never know what truly is happening. And more than that, you never know what's real. You don't know if somebody has it made. You don't know if they're super happy in their marriage. You don't know what struggles somebody is facing.
So even though it can be really easy for us to compare our lives to other people, whether it's a family member, a friend or a stranger on the internet, this is just a reminder that you don't really know the full picture. And chances are in a lot of the situations you are probably way better off than a lot of the people that you're idolizing. So just take what you see with a grain of salt.
The wealth, the success, the insane houses. It didn't protect Andrew and Robert from the super dark realities of greed and betrayal. It doesn't really protect anybody ever, right? So I don't know. Food for thought, guys. That's me on my soapbox for my little outro there. Just don't compare yourself to other people because you never really know what the reality is.
Alright guys, thank you so much for tuning in to another episode with me. I'm going to go watch that Lifetime movie because I know I've already seen it, but I want to watch it again now. I just want to watch it back. And who's the actress that's in it? Who is it? You know, I think I'm probably wrong, but I want to say it's the girl from Bridesmaids. Why can't I think of her name? The brunette one.
What's her name in Bridesmaids? You know, the one who's like super prim and proper and who, oh, I can't think of her name. I think that's her. I think I'm wrong actually. No, I think it's the girl from The Craft, now that I think about Bis zum nächsten Mal. Just get a divorce. Be nice. Don't kill people. Don't join any cults. And just be a good human. Alright. Alright. Bye guys.
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