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Scam Factory

Negotiation with the Devil | 5

Mon, 10 Mar 2025

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Charlie finally has a plan to save her brothers from the scam factory when she gets a chilling phone call. Now, she must race to rescue them before it’s too late.Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery.fm/wonderynewsletterFollow Scam Factory on the Wondery App or wherever you get your podcasts. You can binge the entire series ad-free on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. Start your free trial by visiting www.wondery.com/links/scam-factory/ now.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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What is the Colonel's plan to get Charlie to confess?

00:00 - 00:27 Narrator/Denise Chan

Wondery Plus subscribers can binge all episodes of Scam Factory early and ad free. Join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. Colonel and his assistant stepped into a small laid-back restaurant. On the wall above the cashier hung the words, bringing the Philippines closer to you.

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00:28 - 00:58 Narrator/Denise Chan

The place was warm and welcoming and served really good Filipino food, which was exactly why Colonel had chosen it. Almost immediately, he spotted Charlie at a table in the corner. She was with her girlfriend and another man. They were chatting away. Colonel gave his assistant a knowing glance. His plan was working. They made their way over to a table and sat on a pair of stools.

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00:59 - 01:20 Narrator/Denise Chan

He wanted to be close enough to keep tabs, but far enough to give them some privacy. You need privacy for a confession. And that is exactly what Colonel was hoping for. He'd set this meeting up because he wanted Charlie to be straight with him. And because he knew that up until this point, she had not.

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01:20 - 01:23 Colonel Dominador Matalam

I know she did not tell everything.

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00:00 - 00:00 Narrator/Denise Chan

The list of things Charlie had not confessed in their first meeting was long. She hadn't admitted the role her travel agency played in the entire scam operation, or explained why she had such a friendly relationship with a high-level recruiter inside the compound, or revealed how exactly she had such a huge amount of insider knowledge about how the compound operated.

00:00 - 00:00 Narrator/Denise Chan

She hadn't even told him the whole truth about the two brothers she wanted to rescue.

00:00 - 00:00 Colonel Dominador Matalam

That she was how they ended up there.

00:00 - 00:00 Narrator/Denise Chan

And Colonel knew all this, or enough to piece it together. He'd warn Charlie that he would investigate her if she didn't tell him the truth. But he'd stop short of forcing her to confess, because he'd also decided she was much more valuable as a source than as a suspect. The kind of information she had could not just help with rescues.

00:00 - 00:00 Narrator/Denise Chan

It could help them understand the syndicate and who was responsible. But he needed to know she was trustworthy. So he decided to play nice cop to see if he could get her to open up that way.

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