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Elon’s Politics Detox, the “Big, Beautiful” Bill's Next Phase, and Open AI's Big Bet

Fri, 23 May 2025

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Kara and Scott discuss Elon Musk’s plans to significantly reduce political spending, and his defensiveness around DOGE. They also talk about reactions to Joe Biden's cancer announcement, and have choice words about the “big, beautiful” tax bill's advance. Plus, iPhone designer Jony Ive joins OpenAI, Google announces the roll out of AI Mode, and Democrats still want their Joe Rogan. Follow us on Instagram and Threads at @pivotpodcastofficial. Follow us on Bluesky at @pivotpod.bsky.social. Follow us on TikTok at @pivotpodcast. Send us your questions by calling us at 855-51-PIVOT, or at nymag.com/pivot. Help us plan for the future of Pivot by filling out a brief survey: ⁠⁠⁠voxmedia.com/survey⁠⁠⁠. Thank you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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What are Elon Musk's new plans regarding political spending?

705.905 - 726.563 Kara Swisher

With Bloomberg at the Cutter Economic Forum, I think I've done enough. I think we all think that. This after he poured over $290 million in the 2024 election to support Trump and Republicans. He also spent roughly $25 million on that Wisconsin Supreme Court race that he, like, shit the bed. The cheesehead hat, the whole thing. He shit the bed, essentially.

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726.903 - 736.985 Kara Swisher

Things got a little testy in that same interview when he was asked about Doge saving less than originally promised. The whole thing was frigging testy. What a little baby. What a little wussy baby he is. Okay, let's listen.

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737.985 - 739.366 Elon Musk

What happened to the $2 trillion?

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740.966 - 742.286 Scott Galloway

Well, do you expect it to happen immediately?

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742.306 - 746.867 Elon Musk

Well, is it going to happen? Because Doge is supposed to run until next July.

746.887 - 755.969 Scott Galloway

I mean, your question is absurd in its fundamental premise. Are you assuming that within a few months, an instant $2 trillion saved?

756.636 - 761.517 Elon Musk

No, I'm not at all. I'm just asking, is that still your aim then? Is it still your aim to get to 2 trillion?

762.777 - 764.658 Scott Galloway

Have we not made good progress given the amount of time?

766.178 - 771.7 Elon Musk

That's exactly what I'm asking. So is it still your aim to go from 170 billion to 2 trillion?

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