Jake Tapper

Jimmy's a comedian, and I would argue that Caroline Levitt didn't mean shots should be fired, right?

She was making a joke.

Fair enough.

So I look at that side and go, well, jokes are jokes.

But the rhetoric, I think, is a little dangerous.

And we've seen it a lot lately.

It is a big problem of calls for violence and dehumanization, and it's getting worse.

But it is not a problem to be wielded like a cudgel to try to stop journalism or jokes.

Journalism and jokes are not calls for violence.

Calls for violence are calls for violence.

And far too many Americans in positions of power and influence are too blasé and too glib about those who make them.

It's not a good look.

Well, Rachel, is it a good look in 2018 or is it not a good look in 2021?

A lot of people and I'm wondering, why would you defend Rachel Kirkenell?

I am an imperfect man.

I made a mistake and I own that.

I believe that mistake doesn't reflect who I am or what I stand for.

I am committed to the progress, not just for myself, also for the franchise.

You said, quote, is it not a good look in 2018 or is it not a good look in 2021?

Because they're the big difference.