Pardon My Take
NFL With Steve Smith, The Jameis Winston Experience, CFB With Brandon Walker And Listener Submitted Pardon Your Takes
Wed, 4 Dec 2024
MNF was the full Jameis Winston experience and we can’t get enough (00:00:00-00:13:58). Incredible Rivalry week recap with Brandon Walker plus we talk CFP playoffs, who is going to get screwed, what takes we got wrong and is Brandon daunted (00:13:58-01:09:43)? Hot Seat/Cool Throne including incredible coping from Ohio State fans and NBA Cup (01:09:43-01:43:56). Steve Smith joins the show to make good on his bet, talk NFL, what receivers he loves, George Pickens and Super Bowl pick (01:43:56-02:15:08). We finish with listener submitted takes (02:15:08-02:29:56).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take
Chapter 1: What is the Jameis Winston experience?
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On today's part of my take, we have our good friend Steve Smith Sr. back on the show talking some NFL. And then we have a very special guest, our good friend Brandon Walker, to talk some college football. The crazy rivalry weekend looking ahead to the college football playoff. Also a special cameo from Liam Blutman, number one ball watcher in the world. We're going to talk Monday Night Football.
We're going to do Hot Seat, Cool Throne. We have Pardon Your Take, Great Wednesday Show. Okay, let's go.
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that Jameis Winston is my favorite athlete of all time that I didn't root for on my own team.
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Chapter 2: What happened during the rivalry week recap?
That was a bows and rope.
Yeah, to Mims. That was sick. And Bo Nix is the real deal. But this was the Jameis show. I feel bad because it was going to be Bo Nix's coming out party. Unfortunately, he had to play against Jameis Winston, who, good and bad, he steals the show.
The Browns went from being borderline unwatchable.
I would say unwatchable.
Well, we still watched them.
Yeah, but if we could have not watched them, we would have not watched them.
If I could men in black myself and remove those memories, I would do it. To now, they are must-see TV. And it sucks that they got flexed out of another primetime game because I want to see more primetime James. It would have been the Browns and the Bengals in primetime. That game, I guarantee you, that game is going to be just a fireworks display.
Yeah, Jamis might break Norm Van Brocklin's record for most yards passing in the game.
It's going to be incredible. And I'm like, I'm getting retro mad where I was already mad that Deshaun Watson played the beginning of this season. And now I'm retro mad that Andy Dalton played over Jamis Winston last year when we were saying it should be Jamis Winston. Will he make some mistakes? Yes. But will it be maybe the most exciting brand of football you could ever watch?
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Chapter 3: What is the Hot Seat/Cool Throne segment about?
On the slide, the quarterback slide. it's kind of weird that the way that you give yourself up to protect yourself in the NFL, like the rule that's written in for quarterbacks also puts you in a position where you're very likely to get concussed. Yeah. Like how many times have we seen a quarterback slide? Their head is down near the ground.
They get even slightly hit on their head and it bounces off the ground and they get a concussion.
Yeah.
It feels like it's, it's one of those rules where I understand why they did it. Cause they, they have to protect the golden boys.
Yeah.
Guys are bringing the money. The alternative is they just get hammered. They get hammered, they learn not to run, or they dive headfirst.
Yeah, because I have seen this take, throw around like, oh, the slide is actually making it more dangerous for quarterbacks. I feel like that can't be right. I know it makes it more dangerous for quarterbacks in the rare occasion where a Trevor Lawrence hit happens, but how many times do we see a slide where nothing happens and guys give up and they're safe? I think...
I have no data to back this up. I'm just going on vibes.
Okay.
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Chapter 4: What insights does Steve Smith Sr. share about the NFL?
We're here to talk ball, and let's start. So we'll do a mini recap, and then we'll look forward.
I don't feel good about the standings we had, because I didn't even remember we did that on the couch the last time I was here.
Yeah.
But I remember getting the teams. I think I had Oklahoma State, so that's probably not good.
But you guys had to pick a lot of teams. He had Iowa or something. Okay, so I threw out the idea on Sunday's pod, and I know you've probably talked about it, but... I think that Ohio State's loss on Saturday was one of the worst losses of all time.
I think it's a top five worst loss in my life that I can think of. Yeah. But it is time for a recalculation of what we think worst losses can be because they're not dead at all, and they're going to spend the next three weeks hearing how much they suck and hearing their coach should be fired and hearing how embarrassing this is. And it is embarrassing, but shit, they might get up off the mask.
I agree with you that it changes it that they're not eliminated. But unless they win the national title, Michigan will then say, like if they lose in the college football playoff, Michigan will say, well, it's because Michigan ended their season.
Well, keeping it just to Saturday, you talk about an Ohio State team that was number two, had everything to play for, and not only that, for the last 364 days, you had three years of embarrassment built up, and it was all leading to this, when you finally got a chance to play them on an even playing field, you thought, and finally got a chance to take out three years of frustrations, and then you just didn't, and you let them out-tough you on your own home field.
It's the most embarrassing loss I can remember, because Ryan Day is the one coach who couldn't get embarrassed in this spot, and he did.
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Chapter 5: What are the listener submitted takes?
Yeah. Anytime he almost lost to Maryland, he would die. Sure. Sure, but he didn't die. Yeah. It is so crazy that Urban Meyer was able to... Urban Meyer would lose to Purdue. Right. Urban Meyer would not lose to Michigan. No.
And Ryan Day has it flipped, where Ryan Day... That is also, not to just really pick on Ryan Day, but it's so crazy that Jim Harbaugh broke his brain to such an extent with the Born on 3rd thing, where he is... He puts so much pressure on himself to... That was not only the worst loss for Ryan Day just because it was Michigan.
That was the worst loss in terms of quality of opponent that Ryan Day has ever had. He never loses to bad teams.
And Michigan was a bad team. They were a bad team. It was bad in every way a loss could be bad. And if you lose to Purdue in a season as Ohio State, your fan base is mad. They're furious until the next game. Correct. And then you put it all back together. Well, the next game in this rivalry isn't until 365 more days. The next game on your schedule isn't going to fix this.
They're going to be mad for a year.
Yeah, they are. There's not a lot. So if you lose to Purdue, you write that off. It's a trap game. You overlooked an inferior opponent. It's not great, but we can get over it. But this is the one opponent that you're supposed to be thinking about all year long.
And you were thinking about him all year long.
Yeah, you've been thinking.
about to their detriment i believe i think ryan day yeah said it right i think michigan's in his head at this point oh and he is not himself against michigan they are not themselves against michigan they try to pose as as somebody they're not to beat michigan and that's not how you're beat once you do that yeah he's he like tries to do like a fake tough guy it's like you're not jim harbaugh you're not urban meyer that's not who you're john cooper that's not what your program is yeah third base got picked off your program is having the best players at every position well the way that strength the wind they didn't account for the wind yeah
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Chapter 6: How does the college football playoff picture look?
If they're in the SEC and they're up against Alabama for this spot and Ole Miss for this spot, and they lost to both of them, it seems like that conversation's over.
I think this is a fair point. I just wanted to preface it so that people knew you hate the Cox. Yeah, it was unbiased journalism.
No, you're exactly right. Out of this group, Alabama, who I live next to my whole life and my mother is a fan and I hate her, and Ole Miss, who I absolutely hate and wish all their businesses would fail and their marriages would get divorced. I hate them. You're right, South Carolina. Carolina's the one I hate the most.
Okay, so, Brandon, we actually agree that you can't just disregard what happened on the field, and Alabama and Ole Miss beat them. I think it's going to be Alabama because that's just what they're going to do. Who should it be, then? I want it to be South Carolina because I think they're playing the best ball, and in terms of, like, a viewership, I want to see Lenore Sneed in the playoffs. Sellers.
Sellers, sorry. Oh, I was thinking of Sneed from Kansas City. Lenore Sellers in the playoffs. I want to see them. They've been playing great ball. I don't want to see Alabama again who failed three times and won to Oklahoma. I really don't want to see Miami. I know that Cam Moore is exciting, but their defense can't stop anything. I wouldn't mind seeing Miami because they can score.
It'd be a fun game. But I just think... It's a flawed system in the fact that you're going to... If you put in Miami, that's actually the easiest thing the committee could do because they'd be like, hey, they have two losses. You can't lose three times. I'd totally be fine with that. Be like, you know what? Don't lose three times. But if they do go from the SEC teams...
I want the team that's playing the best ball right now.
I think that playing the best ball is a crutch that people are leaning on. That's my personal preference. When you say they're playing the best ball, all you're really telling me is they played all the teams capable of beating them early rather than late.
They did get screwed against LSU.
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Chapter 7: What are the implications of coaching changes in college football?
I said he's not going to have the stats because of something.
You said he's not going to have the stats because there will be a quarterback that separates himself.
What I said was, if Travis Hunter plays every snap of every game like he is doing for 12 games, he will probably win the Heisman. I said that is virtually impossible. I just cannot see somebody with his usage rate surviving 12 games.
Whoa. What? It's virtually impossible, but then he did it, so he sounds like he should be the Heisman. Yeah.
What are you doing? You don't have to continue. He's going to win the Heisman. You don't have to continue.
Are you going to vote for him if you had a vote?
I don't have a vote. If you had a vote. I'm not. Gun to your head if you had a vote. No, I wouldn't. Wow.
You're a piece of shit. But would you have voted for Melvin Gordon in 2014?
No, I would have voted for Dak Prescott.
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Chapter 8: How do the Heisman candidates compare this year?
You asked me yesterday at 5 o'clock. You didn't put the clock on me. I didn't know that we were doing this.
I only gave you 22 hours. Mm-hmm.
That's right. That's on me. All right, Bub, and if you have anything to say about any of these guys at PFT lists, feel free.
All right, so we consulted the panel, very prestigious panel of current former fullbacks, and they submitted these names. These are the most common names, and then we will narrow them down and have a winner in due time. Max Bredesen, Michigan. Kanye Udo.
I like that name.
Kanye is great.
Christian Moore, UNLV. Steve-O Klotz, Iowa State. You like Klotz?
I like the most so far, Preston.
It's a great name, Steve-O Klotz. Steve-O Klotz is great. That's what you think about when you think about a fullback. Gabe Fisher from Vandy. Eli Heidenreich from Navy. That's also a great name. Yeah. Great name. It means Argentina. Mm-hmm. Heidenreich. Mm-hmm. Tyler Crow from Boise State.
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