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Jimmy Tatro In Studio, Nick Wright Talking Chiefs And Super Bowl, Birthday Episode And Fyre Fest Of The Week
Fri, 31 Jan 2025
Birthday episode for the boys. We talk national sports podcast takes and story lines (00:00:00-00:21:50). A little Super Bowl talk and our favorite props (00:21:50-00:32:52). Our good friend Jimmy Tatro joins the show to talk about his new movie out now, working with Will Ferrell, what’s next for him, the once proud Lakers and more (00:32:52-01:28:37). Nick Wright joins us from First Things First and What’s Wright With Nick Wright Podcast to talk Mahomes, Chiefs Derangement syndrome, Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, Super Bowl and more (01:28:37-02:17:00). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (02:17:00-02:29:08).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take
Hey Pardon My Take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's Pardon My Take, we have a twofer for the people. We've got our good friend Jimmy Tatro in studio. He flew into Chicago to come hang with us. And then we have our other good friend Nick Wright talking about the Chiefs.
We figured we're going to be doing a lot of Eagles content, so we wanted to give a Chiefs fan a moment. And Nick is one of the best to do it, so it was an awesome interview with him. We're going to do Firefest of the Week. We're going to talk a little. Listen, it's the bye week before the Super Bowl, so maybe some national sports podcast stories.
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Happy birthday, PFT.
Happy birthday, PFT, because this is coming out for the birthday. What day is it right now? It is my birthday right now, but it's your birthday when people are listening to this. How does being 40 feel? I feel wiser than all of you. I feel smarter. No, I've actually been dreading it, and now that it's happened, it's like, just move on. I don't really like my birthday anymore.
Birthdays kind of suck now. Just move on. Did you get the finger in the butt yet? No. Stroke of Midnight. You have to do it. Should we do our kiss? Let's do our kiss. So this is, if you're listening on the podcast, go subscribe on the YouTube. PFT and I are going to do our annual kiss between our birthdays, so you'll have to watch it. You can't listen to it.
Well, you can listen to it, but go watch it right now and also subscribe to YouTube. All right, here it goes. Three, two, one.
Oh, my God. Poking me. You must have tickles.
Spitting there, daddy. And that was our kiss. Pretty good. I think that was our best one yet. I think that was our best one yet. Yeah. Podcast listeners, you just have to leave it to your imagination, I guess. Hank, how'd you feel about that? It's gross. Hank, it's two men who love each other very dearly. sharing an intimate moment on their birthdays. What's your problem, bro?
Guys can't care about each other anymore? I don't like how Hank and Memes, I don't like their attitudes. Memes wants us to die. Hank just loves to comment about our age. Max is the only one who's got our back because I think Max is just still so hungover from the case race. He doesn't even know where he is right now. Yeah, he popped a blood vessel in his eye. Oh, that's always a good one.
I spent pretty much all day yesterday puking, taking gummies, puking. Yeah, it was a good day.
Yeah, but we are 40. You're listening to us as 40. We're going to move past it. We're going to be fine. I don't like Hank's attitude or face or look or anything. It can't exist.
Once I'm 40, I'm going to get in good shape.
Yeah.
After the Super Bowl, I'm going to get in good shape. Spring break abs. After March Madness. Yeah. I'm going to be jacked up by the time I'm 41. Yeah.
All right. National Sports Podcast. So this is always the weird week because it's like we haven't fully transitioned off football. Do the Saints finally have a head coach? Is it Kellen Moore? Mike McCarthy's sitting out a year.
So he's just... What do you think the people at Pro Football Focus said when they saw the alert that Mike McCarthy's sitting out a year and they're like, holy shit, he's going to re-up his... His subscription, yeah.
He's going to live with them. I think they're in Cincinnati, right? Yeah. Yeah, Mike McCarthy's going to move to Cincinnati and just spend a year farting and watching film and looking at a computer screen while somebody tells him what this cell means. Yeah. And he's going to come back. He must have an idea of what jobs could open up next year.
Yeah, I guess. But it also, could it be the end? No, he's taking a year off. He's taking a year off. Yeah. So is it Kellen Moore, though?
Is Kellen Moore going to be the Saints head coach? I think it might be Kellen Moore. Yeah, I think he's been doing a lot of it. He's been getting his staff together. He's been really focused on his interviews with the Saints. I think this bodes well for his chance of being hired.
Are we worried, Max, that Kellen Moore is thinking about the Saints and not the Eagles?
It is what it is. That's what happens in football. Sometimes if you're a good team, other teams are going to want your coordinators, and I'm not going to cry about it.
Okay, okay. That was a really good answer.
Yeah, I think he'd be a good coach for the Saints.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think he's a good football coach. Thanks to Jalen Hurts, it looks like he'll probably have his ninth offensive coordinator in eight years. That's a real stat.
Let's talk about Jalen Hurts the same way we talk about Baker Mayfield.
Yeah, he just keeps getting – maybe Jalen Hurts is just – he's the rainmaker. He keeps getting guys hired. Yeah, he's too good. He is too good. And then, Memes, you're just giddy about going to New Orleans? What's going on here? Memes laughed today.
It's Eagles week. It's Eagles week. New Orleans is a very happy place.
Does it feel like, Max, that Memes is kind of stealing this from you, the Eagles week thing?
No, I would prefer it to be on him.
Okay, okay.
So it's Eagles week. No, it's all about Max.
When you say it's Eagles week, are you saying that because you want more spotlight on Maxx?
No, no. I have a prediction that over the next week we're going to be very Eagles-focused. Yes.
For the record, I would be Chiefs-focused too if we can get good interviews with Chiefs players.
Yeah, but the Chiefs don't really want to give us interviews. But we do have Nick Wright on today who's very good, and he is a diehard Chiefs fan. So we're trying, Chiefs fans. I know that they think it's slanted against them. We're trying. It should be slanted against you.
Why? Because fuck them. You get Chiefs Day. Okay, you get Chiefs Day and then Eagles Week. Yes.
And Eagles Week. Okay. That's fair. How are you feeling in terms of your confidence level, Max?
I can't get too worked up. It's too early to get too worked up.
It's too early to get too worked up.
I like that. That's my answer.
I like that. That's a good answer. Not worked up right now.
Correct. I'm calm, cool, collective.
And we do have a big interview coming on Monday, so get excited for everyone. We're going to have a big Super Bowl week. We've got a lot of big interviews. We've got a lot of big interviews. Eagles week. Eagles week. Are you worried about one of the interviews and how much you love that person? Don't do this yet.
Why? Don't do this yet.
Why? A couple. A couple, but really the one on Wednesday feels like he's, you know...
I'll give a hint. He's the brother of a player who's in the game. What are we doing here?
It could be Jackson Mahomes. Yeah, it could be. It could be Jackson Mahomes.
Everyone knows I'm the biggest Jackson Mahomes fan.
Right. Philly Jacks. It's going to be a big week. All right, so National Sports Podcast. I have a couple headlines I wanted to read to you guys. And then we are going to give one early prop pick for the Super Bowl. National Sports Podcast, though. Did you see Adam Silver floats the idea of a 10-minute NBA quarter?
Windhorse fingers, that would be interesting that they'd make a 10-minute quarter right when LeBron retires and then no one can beat any of his records.
That is interesting. That's interesting. Or it'd be interesting if they shorten the length of the quarters to help the older players in the league that are still around. Maybe a one-year trial for the shorter quarters. What do you think, Hank?
I think it would be... Put your fingers up.
I think it would be bad for bench players. There would be less parity in the league, and there would just be all the stars could play more minutes.
Yeah. But you got a lot of stars.
We do have a lot of stars. Yeah. But I think for league parity, it'd be bad. Unless they're going to add two more teams, I think, is my takeaway.
Oh. Where do you think they should go? Vegas. Vegas.
And Seattle. You got to say Seattle. Seattle. Give Seattle a shout out. Fuck Seattle. Why fuck Seattle?
No, I don't know. I used to have beef with Seattle. Why? I forget. I called them bad sports. I don't know. People from Seattle, they don't forget. So you started the beef? Yeah, maybe. Does this go back to the Super Bowl? No, it was on the show. It was an offhanded comment.
Oh, yeah. It might have been during the Mariners. Yeah, MLB playoffs. Yeah, you just were like, fuck them. When they had that one game playoff in the game that lasted like 18 innings. Maybe that's what it was, bad sports down. I forget. Yeah, they got a home run mash, and then you were like, bad sports down anyways, right when they're at their lowest.
Yeah. Yeah, you just kicked them when they were down. Whatever. All right, so you're against it. Yeah. Yeah, that was the one big story, and then I had, let's see. I've got a couple other national sports. Yeah, Wemby fed up with shoves and unfair lack of calls was another one. Wemby, you can't be upset this early. It's not like the French to complain.
No, but you can't be upset this early. I also saw a stat. Let Pop do that. That's what Pop's job is. It's like manipulate the media.
Yeah, he works the refs. I saw a stat. I don't have the exact numbers, but it was wild. It was a screenshot of the Sixers game last night. Oh, yeah, I saw that same stat. Yeah, it was like Joel Embiid games played in NBA career, like 430 games missed 400.
Oh, the one that I saw was how much money he's been paid to sit out. I think it was like $125 million or something.
But the Sixers are almost in the playoffs now. Which I'm rooting for them to get there because I want the polls to be in the lottery. I think they're virtually tied for the polls for the Tennessee.
You guys are tied, yeah. Yes, that's huge. We are, whatever.
Yeah, that's huge. All right, what were your stories?
National Sports Podcast. Yes, National Sports Podcast. Cam Newton was asked the question whether he would rather win a Super Bowl or an MVP. You know what he said? MVP. He said MVP. Yeah. So embrace debate. Embrace debate. If I was a MVP winner and not a Super Bowl winner, I would say the exact same thing.
Yeah. I remember when we had Chris Carter on, I don't know, it was like six or seven years ago, and he said that he would rather be in the Hall of Fame than win a Super Bowl, and I thought that was crazy.
But the more I thought about it, I was like, Hall of Fame, you could maybe say that because you're immortalized forever and there's only a handful of those guys that were the best of the best of the best. MVP, I think, is where I draw the line where I'd rather have a Super Bowl. Yeah, probably. Now, two-time MVP. Two-time MVP, but then you might be Hall of Famer. That means great career.
That could be Hall of Famer. Yeah. But I understand why Cam would say that.
Yeah. I would say that, too, if I were him.
But I did kind of evolve a little bit on the Chris Carter one, where I was like, you know what? Hall of Fame is pretty insane. And you are, I don't know, how many actual NFL Hall of Famers?
NFL Hall of Fame is a lot more exclusive, too. Yeah.
Like, basketball Hall of Fame, who cares? MLB Hall of Fame.
Baseball is definitely the most exclusive. But, like, too much so.
Yeah, but think about how many players play in the NFL. I mean, there's 53 guys on a roster and what they let in like five a year. So being an NFL Hall of Famer, that is pretty fucking crazy.
We didn't talk about the Ichiro thing when he was selected for the Hall of Fame, but it was not unanimous. Of course. And then every media member was like, we need the name of this person that did not put Ichiro on the Hall of Fame ballot. Yeah. And they should be thanking the guy in the media that didn't do that because it gave them a full day of things to talk about on their sports show.
of how could each row not be unanimous Hall of Famer. Okay. That guy actually did a great job.
Yeah. Yeah. That guy, yeah, you need that out there every single time. Wasn't Jeter the same way? Yeah, I think Jeter was the same way. There's never been a unanimous?
Mariano Rivera.
Maybe, yes. I think that might be right. 378 members in the Pro Football Hall of Fame total.
That's pretty crazy. It would be a good club to be in. Yeah. Plus, you get the speech. You get the statue.
You get the gold jacket. Yeah. Okay. What was your other national sports headline?
National sports headline. Somebody in the UK has been arrested for cyber farting.
Oh, I saw this.
So this woman took a camera on her phone, front-facing camera, and then put it up to her ass and then farted into it and then sent that video to somebody. So it's not even farting in real life. It was cyber-farting. The quote from the judgment said, Miss Evans passing wind, her face smiling at the camera. The victim was a woman by the name of Deborah... Okay.
So now Miss Evans, the farter, has to go to 15 rehab sessions, 60 days of alcohol abstinence. And she has a two-year restraining order following her fart.
Damn.
So has justice been served? I don't know. Will Compton's in trouble. He's in big trouble.
I actually sent him a... Don't go to Britain. He tried to send me a fart for my birthday today, and he couldn't muster one up. Not saying... I mean, listen, that's just sad because... Everyone always expected Will Compton would be able to get a fart out, so I just sent him one back. What would you say the prison sentence would be for this one? I'll play it. I took a video of it.
There's nothing like farting in your phone. It's just always a good time. All right, give me my prison sentence.
That wasn't too bad.
Yeah. That's like 60 days. Maybe some probation.
I think probation. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe some light community work. That reminds me. I wanted to do spaces on Twitter, but it's just only farts where it's just people farting the entire time. And you raise your hand if you think that you can fart. I think someone did that, right?
No, it's my snap. I have a Snapchat group chat. Oh, yeah. That's called only farts.
Only farts.
Yeah. Yeah.
And you share it with your friends.
Yeah. It's just the only thing that goes on in that group chat is just videos of farting.
I just want to Twitter spaces that is nothing but 30 minutes of just people farting the entire time and laughing. And you can laugh at the farts.
Yeah, you have to be able to laugh at the farts. Okay. And do we have any other national sports podcast stories that we have to talk about?
Yeah, as first reported on part of my take by our dear friend Jerry O'Connell, Matt Stafford is coming back. Oh, he did the research. He got that by listening to Kelly's podcast.
Listen, there were some people who were like, you guys were too hard on JOC. We love JOC. We just demand excellence at this program.
Yeah, I mean, we wanted to hear him fight for his job. And he did, to his credit. He said, I'm not going to share managing duties. We wanted that fire from him.
right that might have cost him the managing duties that ultimatum that he threw at us but it was good that he did the research he got that yeah it was good to hear it was good to hear him fight a little bit yeah also shout out to awls uh this this kind of is mind-blowing but spotify released what was the exact thing uh they did awards they did awards spotify did awards so they did like total downloads in the history of the shows or was that what it is
inaugural podcaster milestone awards okay um so the first group of honorees are getting plaques okay three tiers based on total lifetime to date streams globally bronze is 100 million silvers 250 gold is 500 so there's 200 500 downloads 250 downloads 100 downloads uh the 500 list was sorry i'm trying to find it exactly i think it was joe rogan 500 and Crime Junkie.
Okay, so Joe Rogan and Crime Junkie. And then the Silver Podcast, which is 250 million plus cumulative streams to date, our Dateline NBC, My Favorite Murder, and a part of my take on Cat and PFT Commentary.
That is pretty mind-blowing that outside of just basically true crime and Joe Rogan, we're up there. So thank you to everyone who listens. So we get a plaque? We're getting a plaque?
We're getting a plaque. I think. We're getting a plaque even though Spotify fired all their people, Hank? Yeah, I mean, listen, they fucked it back, but at least they're doing something.
They're making it up to Hank for that, yeah. I like that. Also, yesterday, I... I'm sorry, by the way. I feel bad for the Spotify people that got fired, but also, I have to acknowledge, the raft was bad.
Also, this story is like, I mean, the fact that 250 million and we're the only sports podcast with a silver plaque. What do you got, memes? You got your hand up. Didn't we hit a billion downloads a year ago?
Maybe this is Spotify exclusive. Yeah. So we got to be close to that 500. Bump us up, Spotify. Yeah.
Give us a little. Yeah. Or bump us up, AWLs. Get us that. But still, it was like one of those moments where you take a step back and you're like, holy shit. It's basically true crime in us and Joe Rogan. That's insane. And 250 million downloads. Can't wait for our plaque. It's pretty cool. Yeah.
Very cool.
I can't wait to lose our plaque. Love you guys.
We will lose it. Yeah, we're going to lose it easily. There was another piece of news yesterday that I discovered by reading a press release. But apparently... Me and Big Cat own a football team in Mexico now.
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, so we teamed up with Mr. Kittle, Mr. Greg Olson, Mr. Ryan Khalil. Mm-hmm. Who else? Blake Griffin.
Blake Griffin, yeah. I think Christian McCaffrey. So... It was very funny because... So I had a Zoom with Ryan Cleland and Blake Griffin. I think it was maybe two months ago. And they had this idea they're going to buy a team, an American football team in Mexico. There's a league. I think our team actually is the Monterrey Osos, which is Bears. And so I talked to them. I was like, we're in.
This sounds awesome. They did all the legwork. And then... About a week and a half ago, Ryan Khalil and Blake Griffin texted me. They're like, hey, what's your address? We want to send you some hats. And I just didn't read the second paragraph. And it was just, we're close to finalizing the deal. Want to mention you and PFT in the press release if that's cool.
And I responded for the hats saying, here's our address. And that sounds great. And then last night, PFT was like, hey, did we actually buy part of this team? And I was like, oh, fuck. I guess I didn't read the second part of the paragraph. So, yeah, we did. That's pretty cool.
Yeah. As owners. Yeah. What can we say? Osos Vuelto. Yeah. We got to get to the glory hole.
What's the glory hole in Spanish?
I don't know. But Osos and Vuelto means bears are back.
Bears are back. All right. Let's see. They got a cool logo, too. It's English to Spanish. You guys are also you guys know owners.
No, we mean we know them.
You know us? Yeah.
So congrats to that. As an owner, I plan on hiring smart football people and then letting them do their job.
Yeah. Aguijera de la Gloria. There we go. So we got to get to the Aguijera de la Gloria.
That's all we need. Yeah. And those windows are not as big as you think they are.
Yeah.
Do you still have Swansea? Is that a thing?
I think so. I think so. But maybe I actually don't. I think actually they might have sold.
Did you ever sign paperwork for the Breakers?
I don't think so. I think we might have. I don't think so. The Breakers, I think we did. And then we have the Water Dogs.
Nice little portfolio.
Yeah. We've won at least one championship. Yep. So that's pretty cool. Yeah, we're owners. What's next?
I don't fucking know. E-sports? E-games.
E-games is what I was going to say as well.
We'll do an e-sports team.
E-sports team. A paintball team? Maybe, yeah. I'd like to get a paintball team. Like to hire Jake on that? Yeah.
Gotcha. Gotcha. But yeah, congrats to us. Pretty cool. Pretty cool. I don't know what we're going to be doing or how we're going to be running the team, but I do know that the standard is the standard. And Aguijera de la Gloria, it's coming.
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Max, how are we feeling week out?
I feel good. I mean, I'm not letting myself really worry until I get to New Orleans.
Okay.
New Orleans is going to be, you're going to see all the Super Bowl stuff around the city. There's going to be all the Eagles, Chiefs, you know, banners, and that's when I'm really going to start.
getting nervous because i i can't get i can't do two weeks of of freak out yeah you can't you can't but you might no i can't okay do you have a prop that you like max uh my prop i think that davante smith's do oh i think he i 50 plus yards i feel good about davante smith okay all right uh hank do you have a prop yeah i don't feel as excited i'm really just
blah what's wrong it's gonna be blah what do you mean eagles and sheets i don't i don't really like future your biggest future of your life see get up off the mat but i know the eagles are gonna lose and it's like i'm gonna be rooting so hard against the chiefs and then i'm gonna be mad at the eagles uh so i feel like it's just gonna be it's gonna suck the prop that i will be betting that i'll be rooting for is patrick mahomes over one a half interception so patrick mahomes to throw an interception what about just going to new orleans it doesn't get you jazzed up
It does. I had a little bit of a scary situation last time I was in New Orleans. A little bit freaked out, if I'm being honest.
Shaking up. But even if the Chiefs are going to win, just think about how hilarious it's going to be to laugh at Macs.
That's true, but we've done it. We need new. We need something new.
No, I mean, this is Super Bowl, though. It would be one thing if we were laughing at him for Villanova not making the tournament. That's like, oh, who cares? They didn't make the tournament. This is Super Bowl. For the Max haters, it's their Super Bowl.
But for me, that's the thing. I am the top of the mountain of Max haters, and no one loves reveling in his misery more than me. But it comes at the cost of Tom Brady and his legacy, and some things are bigger than Max being in misery.
I'm not saying don't. I'm not saying.
I would rather the Eagles win. If I had a choice, it's the Eagles.
But the Eagles can win this game. And I'm saying that no matter what, if the Eagles end up losing this game, there's at least a prize at the end of it. It's him.
But then you have to. It's the narrative. I have to answer those questions forever.
That's how I'm getting ready for Super Bowl.
They're tough questions to answer.
Nightmare scenario is the Chiefs win and Tom Brady screws up the call. Oh.
If the Chiefs win, the conversations are tough. They're tough arguments to make. I'm really going to have to get in the lab.
You're going to have to do some reading?
Yeah. If they lose, then we're good.
I'm not cashing out my future on the Eagles. I'm rooting for the Eagles. I'm rooting for Max. But if they end up losing and I lose this money, I know that I got a nice consolation prize in just looking at him. Like, that's there.
Yeah. And he's going to get back to the exact same level that he was the last time they lost. Oh, yeah. Like, right now he's trying to play cool. He's not doing a good job. No. But he's trying. Next week, we're going to be around the Eagles. He's going to see some of his heroes. It's going to be a week of him seeing other Birds fans, being like, we fucking got this, Max.
We're going to interview Jason Kelsey.
Yeah.
It could be Jackson Mahomes. Yeah, it might be Jackson Mahomes. It might be Jackson. Either Jason Kelsey or... It could be Jason Barkley. Yep.
Yep.
Jason Barkley, Saquon's brother.
Jack Stalente. All right, so what's your prop, Hank? Patrick Mahomes over interception. I'm looking for no doinks. I don't see no doinks listed just yet. I'm hopeful that they'll put it back up next week. But I am going to be taking over 3.5 field goals. The Gremlin bet is at plus 125 right now.
I like it.
And I think they've got two great kickers.
I like it. I think this has got to be a huge Dallas Goddard game. So I'm going Dallas Goddard over 60 yards receiving plus 119. So it's plus money. I think this is a Dallas Goddard game. I think he's got to eat. He leads the Eagles in receiving yards in the playoffs. It feels like he's going to get his five or six targets.
I'm just thinking off the top of my head, there's been at least two that I can think of where he broke for like 30-plus yards. So Dallas Goddard, recurring guest. Eat. I like it. You like that, Max?
Love it. Love it. Who do you think Taylor Swift is rooting for in this game? Chiefs. But she's from Philly, right?
Chiefs. She's from Philly adjacent.
What did future guest Jason Kelsey say about who he's rooting for?
Oh, he said he's, it was kind of talking out of both sides of his mouth. He said, I'm going to root for my brother and I'm going to root for the Eagles. So if the Chiefs win, I'm going to be happy. If the Eagles win, I'm going to be happy.
That's a fair way to look at it. I mean, he's kind of in an impossible spot.
Yeah, it sucks.
Because he does have, like, best friends on the Eagles, and then it's his brother.
He was like, it's hard to root against family, but the people in Philly are my family, too. Right. He was like, if you really wanted to ask me, it's going to be tough to say that I don't want the Eagles to win, but I'm always rooting for Travis Kelsey. Right.
Yeah, just root for Travis. He should just bet all of Travis's props, and then...
and parlay it with the Eagles to win the Super Bowl. It's 1 million percent a fair answer to give, but also at the same time you can be like, oh, he's not picking a side.
Travis asked him if he would wear the split team jersey, and he was like, I will not be wearing red.
Also, I'll just say this, and we'll ask him this when we interview him on Wednesday. Max will be there.
Either him or Jackson Mahomes.
There's got to be the big brother, little brother thing If it's 4-1, that's pretty significant. I don't know how many more seasons Travis Culls is going to play, but 4-1 is now. He's got basically a whole hand versus your one.
Yeah, I mean, especially since one of those could have been just immediately transferred over to Hail Mary. Correct. Yeah, it could have.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
Okay. I'm excited to get to New Orleans. I'm excited for a great Super Bowl week.
Me too. I've put the final number. I think my goal is to eat 15 gumbos. I love that. 15 gumbos from the time I arrive to when I leave. We're leaving on Saturday morning. Yeah. So Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, six days, 15 gumbos. I love that.
I think it can happen. I love that for you.
max is staying till monday he's going to the game we got to make sure that you got a real i want to do i think we got to do a sunday uh morning quick like five minute zoom we can just all zoom in of just the vibes time capsule for the awl so they can see max before going to the super bowl i think that's got to be we got to do that right do you think i'll be hung over for that zoom oh you'll be so hung over you might not even wake up for it are you going to drink champagne
I will. That's a promise. I will not be drinking champagne.
Oh, I thought you were going to say that's a promise of drinking champagne.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I will not be drinking champagne. Getting drunk before the game, I will not be promising sobriety that Saturday. No, you got to get hammered. Yeah, I mean. You're going to get fucked up. I will not be promising sobriety that Saturday evening. Yeah, that's a good non-promise.
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Okay, we now welcome on our very, very, very good friend. He is in studio. He made the trip just for us. It is the legend Jimmy Tatro. He's got a new movie out. You can stream it now on Amazon Prime. Is that correct?
That is correct.
Yeah, you're cordially invited. Go watch it. Support our guy. So Will Ferrell produced this, right?
Produced it, starred in it.
So that had to have been like a pinch me moment where you've been doing all this, your career's been taking off. Some people are saying, you know, basically since you came on PMT like eight years ago, it's like everything's been uphill from there. Some people are saying that.
But was it like, holy fuck, I'm doing a movie with Will Ferrell because this guy is, for anyone in our age range, like he's the GOAT.
Yeah, he's definitely my GOAT. And it was definitely... Like, yeah, the whole time I was there, you'd be just hanging out, kicking it. And then there'd be like that part of me that'd be creeping in, like almost nudging myself. Like, dude, that's fucking welfare. Yeah, right. Shut up, Jimmy. Shut up. Be chill. Be chill right now. But he's like. I don't know. They say don't meet your heroes.
That guy is everything I hoped he would be and more. That's awesome. He's so cool, so funny. He's the best. Yeah. I have nothing but nice things to say about that guy.
Did you ever find yourself, because I think if I ever got in a situation where I was around Will Ferrell or working with Will Ferrell, I'd probably over laugh at all his jokes, but not in like a... Like, a sarcastic way, just be like, I think you're so funny, I'm just going to laugh at every joke you've already made because I love you so much.
It is funny. I mean, he's actually funny, but it is funny, like, when you do a movie and there's, like, a big star on the movie, they can kind of say anything they want. Yeah. And, like, a lot of times people are just...
Yeah, right.
Get it?
It's Will Ferrell.
Yeah. But it's not like in a mean, because when someone overlaps with somebody, you're like, all right, dude, it wasn't that funny. You're mocking me. But for him, like, no, sir, I'm not mocking you. I'm literally just laughing because everything you've ever said is funny to me.
He, like, gave us, like, a little, him and Reese gave, like, a little speech before the premiere. And it seemed like he was just coming out to just, like, introduce the movie. Like, you know, they've done a few of those. But you could tell the whole crowd was, like, just like, oh, what's he going to say? Yeah. He's going to say something funny. It's coming. It's coming.
And he kind of, like, felt that. And then it was like, okay, I guess I'll be funny. Yeah. And he started doing, like, a little bit. And it ended up being really funny. Yeah. But I was like, it's got to be a lot of pressure to be funny. to be Will Ferrell.
Yeah, but I mean, to Big Cat's point, it's like whenever I see Will Ferrell saying something serious, I think like, oh, that was kind of funny the way he said that. You know, like even the serious stuff, you misinterpret as a joke sometimes.
Yeah, you're like, it can't be. There's a bit coming. Yeah.
Yeah.
It's coming. It's serious now, but there's going to be a punchline. I'm just waiting for it.
Yeah. You probably also have to check your references around them. Make sure that you don't... Everybody just says Will Ferrell quotes all the time. That's true. That escalated quickly. Yeah. You can't really say that to Will Ferrell. Yeah. Or maybe you can. Maybe it's like, remember that time you said that escalated quickly? That was awesome. It's just escalated quickly right now.
Yeah. I got a question about making a movie. This is a dumb question, but when did you film this movie?
When or where? When? We filmed it in 2023, in like May.
Okay, so yeah, this works. That's a long time between filming it and it coming out. Do you, like I would forget everything I did. Is that a weird experience to have filmed a movie, have a year and a half of life go by, and then be like, oh shit, yeah, I did do this movie. It's coming out now.
Yeah. Cause it's happened. There's been movies I've done that have like even more time has passed and I've like given up on them ever coming out. And then they come out and you're like, Oh, okay. That's. And then you're watching it and you're like, Oh wow. I hadn't even seen the movie. Yeah. I watched it for the first time at the premiere.
Uh, because I like finally got around to watching the link and like my power went out and I was like, I think it's a sign. I think I just need to watch it at the premiere for the first time. But I like watching them for the first time with the audience. Yeah. Get the vibe.
Yeah, because when we do – our job is very different than making movies, but when we do something, it comes out right away. So it's like – you know what I mean? It's instant. We tape a podcast. We do a video. It's like, boom, it's out. So you remember everything and you can converse about it. If we wait – we do interviews sometimes where we won't release it for –
Two weeks and I will not remember anything we talked about.
But you guys are also saying a lot more things. True. Yeah, that's accurate.
It's just not a good thing.
Do you guys get post-podcast anxiety where you sometimes finish and you go, what have I said?
There's sometimes, yeah, well, during the show we'll say something and then immediately afterwards realize that we were 100% incorrect on it. And then you have to wait. It's like a 12 hour death sentence where it's like, okay, this is gonna come out. Everyone's gonna be mad because I mixed up Zay Flowers and Trey Flowers name.
And so I just have to be prepared to see that like nonstop tomorrow morning.
It is funny because I think we've been doing it long enough that I can pretty much tell you the minute we finish a show. If I'm like, you know, we some shows are just not the best shows. Some shows are like that. We crushed it. I can tell you right away like that was an awesome one. And like sometimes I'm like, that was a good one. you know, move the ball down the field.
Yeah.
Wasn't anything special. So I know right away, but yeah, PFT is right. When you know you fuck up a fact and you're like, I'm going to wake up tomorrow and all my tweets are going to be like, how could you say this? I'm like, just got to live with that.
But then you do it again, like what, the next day?
Yeah. Yeah, then we screw something else up and then people move on.
Yeah.
Just keep moving it. I'm curious to know how young you think you could play in a movie. Like what's your Hollywood age range that you have right now?
Dude, I think it's getting... I'm getting further away from my 20s. But I think I could still play like 25. Okay. Yeah? Okay. Not a high schooler anymore? I don't think so. Maybe in Greece.
Yeah, those movies always make me laugh so hard. TV shows especially where there's somebody who's very clearly in their 30s and they're playing like a high school junior.
But I also, I was watching a movie. It was called, I think it was called The Idol Maker. I don't know if you guys have seen this movie. But at one point in the movie, this guy says, Mom, I'm only 27 and I'm like looking at this this actor and I'm like there's no way You're 27. He's got like a receding hairline.
He's like I in my head 45 right and I look him up cuz I'm curious to see how old he was when he filmed the movie and he was Like oh people did look a little older. Yeah.
Yeah cigarettes cigarettes and no sunscreen Yeah, that's a part of it.
I
It'd be funny if they did, like, an American Pie, like, coming-of-age story for high schoolers and everybody was in their 40s. Like, blatantly too old. Yeah. Where, like, all the high school kids were just middle-aged. I would watch that.
Yeah, I would watch that for sure. So, are you... So, you're a star. You're a movie star. We've been over this.
You are a movie star. Yes, ever since PMT eight years ago.
That's a fact. You went from YouTube to being a movie star.
I went from YouTube to part of my take and then straight to the film business.
Yeah, and then it just... It actually... what was that woman's name Bobby Altoff where they're like she's a plant Jimmy's actually a plant he's a PMT plant he's an industry plant the studio execs were like let's plug this guy into PMT and see where it goes and then it happened they were like holy shit holy fuck who is the next guy that they've planted
Two dudes that didn't even know who Jimmy was interviewed him. And man, it's going awesome. All right. So but are we are we ready for like our first like super serious? Let's win an Oscar role.
i think you should i think there might be one that he's working on right now can i throw one oh yeah well i just watched uh i just saw uh a complete unknown with uh timothy xiaomei yes was awesome in it what if we did the sublime story and you were bradley
dude they're actually working on that oh really shit and i actually was going to audition for but it said you have to know how to sing and i was like dude i i can't yeah i can't sing yeah that's i i have no faith in my singing you would have had the socal thing down though Yeah, I would have had the SoCal thing down, but he's a singer.
Yeah.
The guy is a singer.
So they need somebody that can sing. Is Chalamet going to play Brad Knoll, too?
I think he's, Chalamet will be playing everyone from now on.
Anyone who can sing? Yeah. That would be perfect for you. And I'm glad that they're making that movie. Yeah. That's everything that I want out of a biopic. But yeah, playing somebody else. Have you ever done that? Have you ever had to go back and play somebody who existed and you learn all about them?
Yeah, I played this guy, Bert Kreischer. Yeah. I mean, I really had to dig deep to get in touch with who he was back then. Yeah, that's the only biopic I've done. I think I've taken a bit of a stance against biopics. I'm somewhat anti-biopic.
Really?
Yeah. Why? I just think enough.
Okay.
we've done them all, and people are starting to get the rights to stories before they're even done happening. It's like something, like news breaks, like the Luigi Mangione thing happened, and then it's like someone gets the rights the next day. Dude, this hasn't even finished happening yet. Let the story at least end before you buy the rights to it and start casting someone To play the person.
Counterpoint, I don't read, and that's how I learn about things, is biopics.
Through somewhat fictional biopics.
Yes, so you're making me even dumber than I am, and I'm already pretty dumb. Because I'll go see a biopic, I'll watch it, and I'll be like, oh, that was kind of cool, and then I'll read the guy's Wikipedia, and I'll be like, oh, cool. And then I'll forget about it, but that's kind of how I learned now.
So you think pretty much every notable thing that's happened follows, for some reason, the same story structure.
Yes, yes.
It's weird there's always a love interest halfway through. Yeah, they always get a girlfriend. Yeah. They all get into drugs. Yeah.
Struggles. Then they hit it. Yeah. And then they hit the fame a little too hard. Yeah. Yeah, it is crazy.
Then they give a good speech at the end and talk about how they turned their life around. And then after that, everything's great. Yeah. It's pretty cool.
I actually, when we were shooting this movie, This was one of my first experiences with Reese.
Witherspoon.
Witherspoon. Have you heard of the restaurant in L.A.? Like two years ago, it was like the number one restaurant in L.A., and it came out that the head chef had been murdering cats. What? I remember that, yeah. What's the place called? Wild Jacking Off.
Oh, okay. It's not the same guy who had to come out and say that he never jerked off on his cat, right?
No, that guy didn't come anywhere near his cat.
The cat wasn't in the room. Because that also happened.
No, so this was a real thing that happened in LA, and this story broke. What restaurant? It was called, I don't want to put him on blast, but it was called.
Well, I mean, it sounds like if he's murdering cats, he's jerking off on them.
The New York Times put out the article, so it's public knowledge, but it was called Horses.
The restaurant was called Horses. It was called Horses, and then the chef accused her husband of killing their cat.
Yeah, like the divorce proceedings came out. Oh. And apparently the husband had been murdering cats.
Okay.
So like when this story broke, it was huge news. Everyone's phones are going off and I'm on set of the movie and I'm like seeing this and I get the text and I'm like, oh my God. And Meredith Hagner, who plays my wife, is like, what? And I tell her and she goes, oh my God. Right as Reese walks up and Reese is like, what? And I'm like, oh no, it's just, it's, it's, it's nothing.
You know, I don't want to be the, I don't want to be the guy that's like telling her this. It's like my second interaction with her. You know, I don't want to have to tell her this story.
Yeah.
So I'm like, ah, it's just, you know, some crazy story in LA. Mira's like, tell her, Jimmy. Like, okay, well, you know, the restaurant horses. She's like, yeah. Apparently the chef's been, he's been murdering cats.
It's like, oh my God.
I'm like, I know, right? And I go to walk away. And Meredith's like, no, Jimmy, tell her the rest. While jacking off. She's like, oh, my God. And I'm like, that's now my first impression. I'm the guy that was like, I'm like the cat jack off guy.
Yeah, yeah. You were looking at your phone looking for stories about masturbating.
Yeah.
And I'm like, this is not.
how I wanted my first impression to go here.
Yeah. My Google alert went off. It was a Jack off cat story.
I got it set up, but that actually, I mean, I've always been alerts. It's thrilling to break news to people. I don't know if that's the news you want to break to someone, but it is thrilling to break news.
It is. I just didn't want to be the guy breaking that news. Cause then I was like, there's an immediate association now with me and this story.
Yeah.
yeah she looks at you and she thinks of cats being come on yeah in my head that's what was about to happen yeah netflix has the rights to the story so it's gonna be into a movie that's that's really what it is anytime something happens you see people immediately just say like oh i can't wait for the next the netflix documentary about this i said this on set and then one of the producers was like i hear her like almost say to herself
I wonder who has the rights. I was like, are you serious?
This happened today. Yeah. Oh, you should, when they do the Hawk Tua story, maybe you can be Pookie.
Yeah.
Or just a Pookie documentary. Yeah. There's a lot out there. Yeah.
lot of meat on that is she still going she's still on her run so uh the whole meme coin thing kind of the rug pulled did you invest in that and i lost it all man yeah someone had a incredible tweet that basically was like uh did you ever go on the show ellen ellen degeneres did you ever go on her talk show
No, but I know the tweet you're talking about is incredible.
Yeah, someone was essentially like, it's very clear now that Ellen DeGeneres was the apex predator in Hollywood. And she would take, if she was still doing her show, she'd have Hawk Tua on for 10 minutes and chew her up for all the content, spit her out, and we'd never hear from her again. And now without Ellen, we just have these people running around. She did it to damn Daniel.
Remember damn Daniel?
It's like Yellowstone. It's like Yellowstone. We need the wolves. The wolves need to be there.
Ellen was the wolf, and now we have all these people who get a little bit of fame, and they're selling meme coins and stuff.
Damn, Daniel. Fucking Alex from Target. I just saw a photo that was like, Alex from Target turned 27 today. Yeah, right.
Was that from American Sniper? There's wolves, there's sheepdogs, and there's sheep? Yeah. I guess Ellen, she was the sheepdog. Yeah. So she's protecting the sheep, us. From the wolves out there. Yeah, right. Like damn Daniel.
She just takes him, spits him out. And now we got Costco guys who are going to be... I mean, I love the Costco guys, but they're going to be around forever. You should probably... Maybe that's the youngest you can play. Maybe you can play Big Justice. Are you familiar with the Costco guys?
No, wait.
Oh, God. I'm so jealous of you.
Boom. Oh, they're the... That's what I was thinking. I didn't know they were the Costco. Why are they the Costco guys?
That's where they started. They just started doing videos in Costco.
That's like the Rizzler, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And his older brother and dad?
No, they're not related. I'm happy that you don't know this fully because it's always... Whenever I have to explain this to someone, I feel so much shame. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, so they're these guys and they do these videos and they just say boom. And they're like, what? Why is that funny? I'm like, you wouldn't get it, man.
And they're the ones that have the podcast room next door, right?
Yeah. Yeah, right. Exactly. We're trying to hire Rizzler.
Yeah.
He'd be a perfect Will Compton.
He is like, remember Lil Terrio? Yeah.
Yeah. He played, I think, college football somewhere. Yeah.
All these guys are getting older and it's shocking to see them not just staying the same age. Yeah.
Like Lil Terrio, he was like 12 and he was like smoking blunts with rappers and stuff.
Yeah. Yeah.
And everyone's like, man, it's so funny. He was almost like Hasbulla. Yeah. But he was actually 12. Yeah. So it was certainly not okay.
I think the Rizzler is just an American response to Hasbulla. I think that we saw what they were doing and we're like, we have to develop our own. Right. And then we get the Rizzler.
Aren't you happy that you've gotten into movies? Because there was probably a career path for you when you were starting out on YouTube that you would have, right now you'd be like, I have to do a collab with Big Justice and the Rizzler.
That would be tough.
Yeah.
Trying to wrangle.
To keep the money coming in.
And also like getting a no.
Yeah.
Like, hey, so he's a bit busy. And you're like bummed. You hate to admit it, but you're kind of bummed. Yeah. Fuck, man. I was really banking on doing this collab with the Rizzler. Yeah. And he's 12 and he just big leagued me.
The Rizzler's probably too late to go to a Diddy party, right? Yes. What were the Diddy parties like?
Oh, man.
No, dude, I actually... Well said.
I was... I'm not going to say I was offended, but it just seems like a lot of people...
got invited got invited yeah you think anybody's lied about going to a ditty party right now just for the clout oh yeah hey heads up yes i was there a couple times but i always left before midnight or that's so anyone that's saying i was there after midnight that's a lie do you think they just weren't there at all do you think the reverse is it yeah the reverse yeah people like five years ago were like yeah i've been to a bunch of ditty parties and now they have to retroactively be like i was lying about oh yeah like i wasn't i actually wasn't there
I was just trying to be cool. Because we were like, hey, haven't you?
You went, right? You used to go all the time, right?
Fuck, I was lying.
I lied.
You used it to cancel a date. Sorry, Diddy invited me. I got to go. And then you end up marrying that chick later.
Yeah, this guy I was seeing used to go to a lot of Diddy parties.
Oh, the bridesmaids reading the texts after their first date that they got sent when you knew she was the one. Now he couldn't make it to the second one because he was at a Diddy party. Oh, no, that doesn't look so good. That's not as romantic as I thought right now.
So I think, because we played, we had you on right before Beer Olympics. Yeah. And then we played disc golf in Grit Week.
Yeah.
I don't know if we talked about it on the podcast yet, but Real Bros was great. Thank you. Movie. You literally had a storyline about podcasters. I know. And you told us we were going to be in it, and then it just popped up. And it was not just one podcast. It was multiple podcasters. It seemed like we could have just done a clip from this studio and just sent it to you.
Yeah.
And been like, here, this is a five-second cameo that you can use.
You know, I said it before, I'll say it again. There's no excuses. You know, I fucked up. I fucked up.
Well, in reality, I think me and Big Cat would have just liked the opportunity to say no. Yeah. Because we're very lazy.
We never got the opportunity to say no.
If you had said, hey, we got a spot for you. We wrote it in. All you have to do, fly out to L.A. for two days, shoot your shots, go back. Then we would have been like, ah, that's a lot. That's a lot of travel.
That was where my head was at. It was a 10-day shoot. So it was, you know, we had to move fast. And... Yeah, but like I said, in hindsight, I fucked up.
Okay, I appreciate that.
But I did want to ask, you mentioned Hasbulla, and I was curious, what happened to that guy? Is he still going strong? I think he is. He used to grace my feet all the time. Yeah. He was really active, and I haven't seen him in months, maybe a year.
Yeah, he'd be like punching some random celebrity all the time.
Yeah.
That was like his job. He'd be slapping someone, yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I do think that the Rizzler just took over. You think he took Hasbulla's spot? I think the Rizzler might be CIA.
I also think it was bad when Mike Tyson met Hasbulla and thought he was an actual baby.
Yeah, and picked him up and was tickling him and stuff.
I would like to see proof of life for Hasbulla, though.
Yeah, it would be nice.
Yeah. Do you think he hates the Rizzler? Do you think there's beef? Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely.
For sure.
Has to be. Has to be. I mean, the Rizzler, he's a star. You'll be playing the Rizzler at some point. Should we talk about LeBron James completely hijacking your organization?
We can talk about it, yeah. I'm open to discussing it.
How dynamic of an athlete do you think Bronny will be?
I was alarmed to find out he was only 6'1". Yeah. I mean, that was a while ago now, but I guess in my head, he was like 6'7".
Yeah, yeah.
And then when they said he was 6'1", I was like, that just changed my whole
perception of of his size his levitism all of it yeah and six one's not like that's short in the nba that's small yeah he doesn't look small though and he's like the way he's dunking it doesn't look six one well he was listed at what six four in college yeah i think so i think so and then they measured him at the comp that's that's a tough three inches is that is that a shoes off six one i think so i think that's how they measure yeah but like why do they measure they're wearing shoes on the court
I guess so that everybody, so that some people, occasionally I will wear my shoes that are my tall shoes.
What are your tall shoes?
I'm not wearing them right now, but my tall shoes.
Are they Hoka's? Because Hoka's have a lot of.
They're Nike 720s and they're honestly about two inches in the heel.
Wow.
That I can pick up on a good day. So I know when I'm wearing my tall shoes. If we have a tall guest coming in where they're like six foot seven, I will put on my tall shoes and still get roasted in the picture afterwards.
And then what do you jump up to with your tall shoes on?
I jump up to probably 5'10". Yeah. It's huge. I think that's probably why, because you could wear your tall shoes at the combine when you measure in. Yeah.
But you can't really wear tall basketball shoes. I don't know. I guess my argument is you're not on the court barefoot.
Yeah. I do think that there's a case to be made that LeBron James is a great dad. He's a fantastic dad. Yeah, he's a very good dad. For getting his son drafted. Yeah. Like, who wouldn't want that?
No, I think if you can do it, you do it. Yeah. If you have a chance to play with your kid, you play with your kid. Yeah. It's an absolute no-brainer situation for LeBron.
Mm-hmm. But this iteration of the Lakers does feel like it's just basically LeBron's doing like a legacy couple years here where he's like, I'm just going to do, which again, I would probably do the same thing where it's like, hey, I've done everything. I've played in the NBA for 20 plus years. I'm just going to do whatever I want, hire whoever I want, have fun.
But it's got to be a little frustrating watching the Lakers being like, hey, can we try to win games?
Yeah, it is. I mean, the second we drafted him, I knew I was like, damn it. We've just signed up for like a novelty situation.
Yeah, right.
Which I'm happy for him. But like they got the photos, you know, they got the photos already.
Yeah.
of him, you know, they're on the court doing the dad-son hug, some passes. I think maybe they just are waiting to get like an oop.
yeah and then once they get the oop then then it's like okay we can move on if you got cut the next day i i thought it would have been perfect if they got him on the court that first night and he took a three i think that was his first shot if he just drains a three and then checks out and everyone like standing round of applause and you never hear from him again and then you never know what he could have done yeah because then the legend would grow they'd be like he might have been better than the
yeah right and he also you could be like lebron james played the most amount of minutes in nba history and bronnie james jr played the least amount of minutes played 30 seconds it would have been so good that would have been cool are we at the point where we can say the once proud laker franchise when we're talking about the bronnie situation that's no that's that's absurd we're talking about a dynasty here
Of what?
Of a franchise.
Of a family. Oh, okay. But right now... Don't you have to wait?
Once proud... No, no. No, no. It's an always proud situation.
Always proud. But the once proud franchise has now turned itself over completely to LeBron James.
It's not once proud. Like, once proud would be like... Like the Patriots.
Okay.
You know, the Patriots were once proud. Now they are not so proud.
But the Patriots won a Super Bowl. When was the last time they won the Super Bowl?
I mean, the Lakers haven't won a title since Kobe. He's going to count 2020. Yeah, he is going to try to count 2020.
I'm going to count 2020. Well, we don't count 2020. Yeah, but you have to count 2020. Well, you don't.
We literally don't.
I mean, I think 2020 is you take all the fans out.
He's going to do the hardest thing. It's the only correct response that you're doing. They went to fucking basketball camp in Orlando. Weird that the old guy who didn't have to travel or play any away games ended up winning.
The home court advantage. It's just them in there. If anything, it should count more. This is sounding like he's not proud. If anything, 2020 counts the most.
This is the correct answer, though. If you're defending the Lakers, you have to go all the way in the other direction.
Absolutely.
Listen, you take out all the distractions and you just boil that game down to who's truly the best. Everyone plays on the same court. Everyone plays the same court.
No traveling for the guy who's in his late 30s.
No traveling. You know, tougher on those young guys. They haven't traveled as long.
Yeah.
So if anything, they had the advantage. Mm-hmm. They enjoyed it more. They don't have families. He had to deal with missing his family.
Oh, yeah.
The older guys have to deal with that.
Yeah, that's true.
If anything, that was just a testament.
Are you at the level where you can get courtside Lakers tickets? Do they give them to you?
Um, no, I've been courtside. I have a buddy who has some courtside.
Okay. How does that work? Do they give, I would assume half of the celebrities sitting there.
I think a lot of, a lot of, uh, agencies have, have, uh, courtside tickets. So then if you like really, I mean like they usually give them to like, like you'll see like Rihanna. I'm like, I think, you know,
You're on the same level. She has no ball.
Me.
Yeah. Listen, we're the number one Jimmy Tatro podcast because we need you to be an A-lister so we can be like our A-list friend, Jimmy Tatro.
No, I was actually supposed to be. I was under the impression I had courtside tickets to the Knicks last night. My manager was like, hey, got us courtside tickets. And then we ended up being in like the third row. Oh, no. Which, you know, I didn't want to be like complaining. Were you on the Jumbotron? I did go on the Jumbotron.
From the third row? Fuck.
Yeah. That's brutal.
So it was a kiss cam or something?
Yeah. Me and him. Me and him.
That's tough.
Third row? How'd you deal with that? At that point, you would almost not want to be on the Jumbotron.
Yeah. They're like, hey, can we show you? I was like, you're still showing me?
Yeah. Yeah. Could you hear Spike Lee?
He was pretty close. I couldn't hear him, but he was like, I mean, I don't think he was very vocal last night. I think I would have heard him, but he was, he was like 10, 15 feet away.
Yeah. I respect Spike Lee because after all these years, like he's still at Knicks games. Just that's the thing. I think he probably cares about the Knicks more than anything else in his life. Yeah. Like that's a guy that cares about basketball.
I mean, how, if you look at the amount of Knicks games he's been to compared to, I mean, what's his last movie? Was it black Klansman?
I believe so. I don't know. That was a while ago.
That was a while ago.
How come he gets to say a Spike Lee joint? Nobody else gets to say joint. Yeah, why don't we get a Jimmy Tatro joint?
I guess you could say joint. I don't know what that means credit-wise. If you put joint up there, if it fucks something up in the paperwork and maybe he just doesn't care. Maybe he's getting a joint buy credit instead of a created or written. He doesn't have any writing credits. It's just jointed buy credits.
It's so funny because he also, when you talk to somebody about Spike Lee films, like I was talking to my mom when Black Klansman came out and she said, I'm going to go see the Spike Lee joint at the theaters. Your mom said that? My mom's like 80. Yeah. It's a Spike Lee joint.
I love that.
Yeah, it is pretty cool how you can brand yourself that way.
Yeah, he's cornered the markets of joints. It's a Tetro bong.
Yeah, I got a Tetro what?
Bong. Bong?
Bong is better than a joint.
I thought you said bomb. Oh, that works too. A Tetro bomb. A Jimmy Tetro bomb. It should be a cool thing. Like a bomb... Should be a good thing, I feel like, in movies. Like it bombed, like it fucking... Yeah, but no, it's not. It's bad.
It's bad.
Maybe I could rebrand Bomb, a Jimmy Tatro Bomb. I like that.
Yeah, you could. You could try.
I could try.
We'll support it. Is Real Bros done?
I think so.
I love it so much.
For now, at least. I mean, I... So you're not saying maybe it still has something? I... Yeah. Not... It's... We did... We gave it the ending we wanted to give it. We had Tony Hawk play adult Hawk. Hawk's older than me. Hawk dies of old age. Spoiler alert if you haven't seen it. But, like, I really saw Hawk dying as being, like... That's it. The ending. Maybe there's...
you know a spinoff somewhere down the road i don't know but it's not what i'm thinking about okay i'm focused on other things i just love it so much uh everyone should go watch it watch the the seasons as well um yeah that makes sense though yeah it was a good movie and you put obviously like a lot of time a lot of thought your heart into writing this series and now you know you're you're doing a lot of acting are you still carving out time to like work on writing
Yeah, so I'm working on another show right now that it is, I don't want to jinx anything, so I don't want to say anything that hasn't happened, but it's set in the snow.
Okay.
And there's a wood chipper. And there are dogs? And one guy. Oh. One guy's a car salesman.
That's not where my head was at, but there could be dogs.
Do they have boners? Is it animated?
It's not animated. It's not animated.
Set in the snow. Watch this French avalanche movie. It fucking sucked. Don't do that.
The Alpinist?
Yeah, that shit sucked.
Yeah, I heard the ending is no good.
I don't even know if it was that. The Alpinist? That was the mountain climbing movie?
No, it was literally a French movie where they were all at a resort and then there was an avalanche and the husband didn't immediately save the kids and wife and then it was just boring as fuck.
It was in French?
Yeah, I think so. I think that was probably the issue for me.
Who was the main French guy?
I don't know. I'll look it up. Don't do that movie is what I'm saying.
You don't strike me as the kind of guy that'd be watching French films.
I got tricked into it. I started it, and I think the avalanche happens really quickly, so you get hooked, and then you're like, wait, is this subtitles the whole time? That just kind of fucked me up. I'm a subtitles guy all the time, by the way.
I'm a big subtitles guy.
Do you know what? Actually, can you do this for me? Because I did go to the movies last week. Can you talk to someone in Hollywood? There needs to be an option. Like, they have an IMAX option. They need a subtitles option.
I completely agree with this. Yeah. I was actually thinking it'd be cool if there was, like, because I get subtitles when I go to the movies because I can't hear very well.
Yeah.
But, like, when you buy a subtitle device, I mean, you don't buy it. But when you get a, you can go to any theater and say, can I get subtitles for the movie? Yeah.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Yeah.
How do you do that?
Well, you don't want to do it because what they hand you is this three foot long metal stick where you stick the end in the cup holder and then you like crank the subtitle into position in front of you. On a screen. So there's like a little screen that you get that has kind of a shield around it. So that people, like, to your right and above you can't, like, there's no light.
I didn't even know this. So you angle it so it's right under the screen. And then you kind of have to, like, because it's so close, refocus, you know, to do that. And it is, like, loud. Like, if you want to move it, it's like... And you're walking around, you know, getting popcorn, holding this massive... I'm like, I just want to understand the movie.
And you got me walking around this theater looking like a fucking idiot.
Yeah, I had no idea that these existed. I didn't either. Do they like check some sort of card for me or anyone can get it?
Yeah, I bring my hearing test, slide it across, and they say, yep, deaf enough.
Wait, so you get that every time?
I do, but a lot of times, like IMAX, they don't do it for like 70 millimeter IMAX.
So they need to have it be a theater where it's just subtitles.
Yeah, they do need that because I'll go to... Yeah. Like I went to... I forget. I saw one recently and it was 70mm IMAX. And I was like, hey, could I get the subtitles? And they go, oh, no. This is 70mm IMAX. And I was like, yeah, no, I'm aware.
Yeah.
And they're like, yeah, that would ruin the viewing experience. And I was like... But I can't hear. What if I can't hear well? How about my viewing experience? Yeah.
By the way, the movie was called Force Majeure. Sucked. Don't watch it. Force Majeure. Force Majeure.
But I didn't I didn't used to do that. But my brother, he has a worse hearing loss than me.
Volleyball player.
Volleyball. Deaf volleyball. Deaf volleyball.
Shout out Olympics.
Is he going to the Olympics? Tokyo in November. Is that the Olympics? That's the Deaf Olympics. He was in the Deaf World Championships last time I talked to you guys.
Yeah. So the Deaf Olympics this upcoming November?
This upcoming November. Tokyo. What are the expectations? I'm going, baby.
Fuck yes. Are they the top seed?
They are not the top seed, no. Turkey, I think, is the top seed. They're good.
Do they really, like, are there any times controversies?
But would it even help in volleyball? The Turkish team, well, because you can't communicate.
Got it.
So, like, there's a lot of communication in volleyball. You have to take your hearing aids out. You can't talk to each other. You can only sign. But I was like, you know, seeing these Turkish guys and I'm like, I'd like to see some hearing tests.
Yeah.
I don't think that guy's deaf enough.
You should bring like a pole horn. You're like going behind him like, hey. Yeah. Hey.
I don't know if I told you this last time, but there was one time. where they would like keep playing, the whistle would blow. But like, they can't hear the whistles. So they just keep going and going and just like.
Stop, please stop.
Turn on like a giant red light in the stadium.
Yeah, I was like, how does the deaf track meet go? You know, the gun goes off and everyone's just.
We got to win. Can we bet? We got to figure out a way to bet on this.
Yeah, you can definitely bet on this. I want you guys to win. Is this indoor volleyball or is this beach volleyball? Indoor. Yeah. So we're expecting gold.
We would like gold. I'm expecting gold. You have to expect it. I'm expecting gold. We're expecting gold. We are.
I'm expecting gold.
But he was the one that introduced me to this whole, I didn't even know you could go to theaters and do that. Yeah. So now I do, but I'm embarrassed about it.
Yeah, they need to make it so it's shame-free. Shame-free. Give anybody, and I guess everybody does have the option, but make it well-known to everyone. We're going to do this. It's going to have subtitles.
And also, when you ask the people, they all have them, but everyone's response is, oh, um... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, did you have to react like that? Yeah. No one has ever asked for this before.
Dust them off. Yeah.
Call their manager.
Yeah. Yeah.
If I was, you know. A little more anal about things. I'd cause a ruckus about this. You should.
You should absolutely cause a ruckus.
I like watching... I watch Squid Games, but I do it with not the subtitles. I do it just with the overdubs, which I guess is bad for the actor, right?
Yeah, you don't want to do the dubs.
You lose out on all the actual inflection and the acting of it. But also, I'm very lazy. And sometimes I'd rather just hear than have to read.
Well, also with the dub, you lose other sounds too, you know?
Yeah.
Because think about it, like if they're on set or like if they're recording our dialogue and, you know, you're hearing, you know, I sit down and you hear the couch as I'm talking, you know, and that's in the same sound clip. When you dub it, you lose other sounds. Yeah. So then they got to like manufacture it like little things, you know?
They don't like put a chair in the recording studio and have you sit down as you're talking?
I don't think so. Have you ever done any dub work? I did. I dubbed a animated movie from Japanese to English called Airbound. And I played a mouse named Matthew.
Oh, that's a big role.
It was huge. But it's funny because they give you the script and it's the same sentence somewhat, but they write it in a way where it kind of looks like what's being said. So you're trying to match to what already exists, whereas when you do it the other way around, you record all the audio and then they animate to your voice.
Yeah, exactly.
So it's harder to dub.
So you have to get notes about what the other voice actor, where the inflection was, how it was said, and then you try to mimic that the best that you can.
Pretty much. You see it, and then you see the line, and you try to match it as well as you can. It's not going to be perfect, but you just try to match it as well as you can. I also learned on that thing that when it's a kid's show, everything goes up. I'd be like, here we go. Here we go. They're like, no. Here we go.
Oh, yeah. Everything has to be exciting.
I know. Watching shows with my kids, they all have the same tone.
It goes up.
Yeah. And it drives me nuts.
It's not how I say things, but that's like what the, I don't know.
Kids just love it. Here we go. Yeah. Yeah, because in a kid's movie, like every two seconds, you have to actively keep the kid's attention.
Yeah. Right. What are your kids watching?
Right now, big into Minions.
Oh.
Which is, I love Minions.
That's awesome, because the Minions are, I love the Minions.
Yeah, they're hilarious. Moana 2, I've been watching that a couple times. But then it's like, we'll mix in the, like, there's this like Ms., it's not Ms. Rachel, there's Ms. Rachel, but there's like a Ms. Katie or something that she sings songs, and I want to just put a bullet in my head.
What about Blippi?
Blippi they watch, which I know the backstory of Blippi, and I don't know if I'll ever tell my kids that. Is it dark?
No, it's not dark. Biopic coming?
Yeah. Blippi made probably the funniest video I can ever. I think the funniest internet video, if I had to pick one all time, Blippi created it, but then has gotten scrubbed from the internet. So it was, um, what was the Harlem shake? Remember the Harlem shake fad? Um, there was a Harlem shake. It was two guys doing the Harlem shake and the beat drops and they're in the bathroom.
And then when the beat drops, uh, I can't remember if it was Blippi or his friend, but whatever it is, uh, one of the guys was then taking a shit across the bathroom into the other guy's asshole. And I've never laughed harder.
projectile diarrhea it is you can't find the video anymore it was one of the funniest videos i've ever watched in my entire life and that's blippy yeah and that's yeah that's blippy that's what my kids watch yeah yeah was the harlem shake 10 years ago it was nine i think right yeah we did one one of our first videos that big cat and i ever did we were at the uh niagara falls museum right yeah and dressed up as a couple canadian guys in 2016 that was a mannequin challenge
Oh, that was the Mannequin Challenge. Oh, Mannequin Challenge. Okay, yeah. Harlem Shake. Yeah, it was probably 10 years ago. Yeah. Thanks, Hank.
But that's, yeah, they watch Blippi. They like Blippi, and I'm just sitting there like, all right.
The Niagara Falls Museum is at Niagara Falls? That's amazing, yeah. Is it just a room with a window where you can look at Niagara Falls, and that's the museum?
They have dioramas in there of like, this happened near Niagara Falls at some point in history.
They have the picture. Pretty much the coolest thing Niagara Falls ever had was, I think, outside of Harry Houdini, was the time when they stopped it for like a while. What do you mean they stopped it? They shut down Niagara Falls. They found a couple bodies. They had to do an ecological study or whatever you call it.
I've never understood damming things. How do you stop the water? How do you first stop the water in order to build the thing that stops the water?
Dams freak me out. Oh, that's a good question. I don't really know. I have the same question about cranes, about giant cranes. When you see a huge one that's taller than any building in the city, how do they build that crane? Was there another crane, a bigger crane that came in? Tunnels.
Tunnels blow my mind underwater.
Dams do freak me out. Just underwater engineering in general. No idea how it gets done.
Find the picture.
Some questions are better left unanswered. He wasn't listening.
Niagara Falls when they stopped it. That's a good Google search.
Niagara Falls when they stopped it.
1969.
Look at that. They just stopped that shit.
Isn't that crazy? If you told me that was like a little, like a really little stream. Yeah, it doesn't look as good. Yeah.
It doesn't look as impressive. But yeah, they just stopped it. I think there's like four of them and they stopped three out of four of them.
Pretty crazy, huh? We used to go over Niagara Falls in barrels all the time. We as a species. Yeah. And there hasn't been a barrel guy for a while. Pussification of America. Yeah.
There's a lot of jump guys that jump off of... I watch those videos. Dude, my feed has been taken over by these guys. Yeah. They do like 10 backflips and then just land in water.
Yeah. Oh, those guys. I thought you were talking about the skyscraper guys like in Russia. But yeah, the guys who are doing the jumps and they always do the thing where they get their hands and feet together at the end. Yeah. They throw a rock to break the tension. And then there's like some dude in Norway who's jumping like 180 feet.
With the hammers? Yeah. Have you seen that guy? It's crazy. With the two axes? I watch it every time. I'm like, why the axes? It's cool.
So this guy takes two axes and he just jumps off cliffs into the water?
Jumps off a cliff? Yeah. And like...
axes the water when it lands yeah that's pretty fucking badass it is badass yeah i love that yeah i yeah the the the feed like seeing all these guys that it's just so funny to think about like 20 years ago like were these people doing this thing or was it because social media now exists that everyone's got their thing
And they keep pushing the record, like the world record death dive. Oh, yeah, we're going to watch them die. Someone, the winner will die.
Yeah, and I will watch it. I'll see it on my Instagram feed and be like, sensitive content.
Are you seeing a lot of death videos? Because I'm seeing a lot of death. I wish I was seeing less death.
I saw a lot of death like four months ago. Yeah. I feel like that's when it was always like the next video you'd be watching on X. And then the autoplay next video would be like somebody getting shot in El Salvador. Yeah. And it was like, there's just, there's too much death going on social media right now.
I don't know if I changed something or if they changed something, but I feel like I haven't seen as much recently.
Yeah. There was a stretch where I'm pretty sure I saw every single person die in the Ukraine war.
Yeah.
Like I just saw every single soldier that died. I just saw him.
I would see, it would seem like an, like a unsuspecting video. It'd be like the definition of fuck around and find out. Yeah. And I'd be like, oh, cool. It's gonna be a little fight or something. And it'd be like, you know, an argument and then someone pulls out a gun and like kills someone. And I'd be like, Dude, it's 9 a.m.
Yeah, or it would be like a drone footage of like a barren wasteland. You're like, oh, this is interesting. What the hell is this place? And then it just like goes down and it's 10 feet above like some soldier just begging for his life. And then they kill him. It's like, oh, okay. I guess I watched that.
I deleted X. What? The everything app? It all happens on X. Why? It was just depressing me. Everything I was seeing on there was just like.
I'm jealous.
It was just bad. I didn't like anything I was seeing, and I was like, go on here. I see depressing information and just terrible opinions, and I get mad.
Wait, so is your relationship with the internet now like you don't get any feedback? Because that's incredible.
No, I mean, I still like I'm still on like Instagram.
Right. But are you getting feedback there? Are you looking at the comments section? Like, are you getting are you just living your life essentially? Which is sounds incredible.
I think so. That's awesome. But feedback in what sense?
You read the comments, obviously, on your Instagram posts.
Yeah, I don't read all of them, but I see the- Yeah, peruse. See them.
Yeah, okay.
But it's not like when I was posting YouTube videos where I would- Read all the comments. When I would post every week. You guys are posting things consistently, so there's more of a feedback dynamic.
Yeah. Yeah. I guess what big hat means is just like reading all the comment, like you post anything and then people have an opportunity to tell you what you screwed up and then you focus on those people and then you get bummed out. You don't do that. You don't live that lifestyle.
Not anymore. No, that's awesome.
That's pretty good.
I do like the idea of you cause you don't have Twitter anymore. Like if you don't post a lot on Instagram, like maybe you go like six months and then someone finally gets their takeoff about like real bros. They've just been waiting for you to post something so they can comment under it. Bring something up from two years ago. Yeah. Oh, there you are. Yeah. Oh, finally.
Yeah, finally. I got some shit to say.
Why'd you choose this plot point?
God, I'm failing. The color was all off in this scene.
Yeah. I mean, I can give you just a roundup of what you missed from the last time that you posted on X. Okay. What was the last time I posted? How long ago was it? This will forever be the best prank of all time. And it's a bunch of guys moving a storage unit and porta potties.
Dude, that prank is incredible. Have you seen that prank?
I'm watching it right now for the first time. It looks pretty good. Looks like a great prank. So you posted that on September 18th, 2024. The first reply is dollar sign XRP. You want to make $1,000 right now? Just did. And then nothing else. See what I mean? You missed that guy. That guy tried to make you $1,000.
What are you doing? All the replies are like unrelated now. Yeah, oh yeah. They're like random. People just send random things now in replies.
Stupid shit. Yeah, just a bunch of, yeah.
I don't like it over there. Yeah. I had to get out of there.
I got one last question for you, Jimmy. Thank you for coming by, by the way. For people, Jimmy's been our good friend for, how many years is it now? I don't know.
When was the first time I came on PMT? I want to say 2018, 2019 maybe. I want to say 2019. Whenever your career really took off.
Yeah. It might have been... Whenever your tax bracket went to the highest.
Oh, it was after the Bs. Yeah. It was after your B situation. It was after the Bs? Yeah, because I think every time we have you on, we ask you how the Bs are, and you're like, oh, I don't have Bs anymore. Remember? I've been telling you that for six years. Yeah.
We're so stupid.
But it's like one of the coolest things we do in our... one of the coolest things we get to do in this job is like become actual friends with people we interview and, and become part of the show. Uh, so, and Jimmy, I was good. What I was going to say is Jimmy was in New York last night for the premiere is flying back to LA and he's like, you know what?
I'll fucking stop in Chicago and see you guys. So thank you very much. We appreciate that. Um, so my last question, Roback question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, Roback.com promo code take 20%.
uh let's just go vision board what's what's the next role we want let's put into existence and then we're going to start just talking about it subtly talking about it when we have like people in the industry on like you know play who do good in this role jimmy tatro that kind of stuff i think it's time for an action role yeah i love it i think it's time for an action role on the acting side
I love it.
On the writing side, I'm still into comedy. But on the acting side, I think it's time to do some action comedy. Top Gun 3? Start doing some stunts while I'm still athletic.
23 Jump Street?
I would love to do... I'm getting too old, but I always wanted to do a basketball movie.
Hoosiers? The next Hoosiers?
The next Hoosiers.
About the 2020 Lakers?
Yeah.
Who could have thought?
LeBron measuring, yeah, the rim. Would you play LeBron?
I would play LeBron. I'd buzz the head. I'd play Caruso.
Okay. That makes sense. Yeah, I could see that.
That'd be perfect. For sure.
Yeah, being in a sports movie would be pretty sick.
That would be cool. Because also, when was the last time we had a good big sports movie?
Yeah, it's been a while. I think they just all become miniseries now.
That's true. Yeah. Not everything needs to be a miniseries. I agree. Like with documentaries, sometimes... It could be one thing. It doesn't need to be three episodes. Just make it one doc.
I'm trying to remember the last good sports movie that we had. There really hasn't been one for a while.
Yeah, I can't. I'm at a loss. I'm thinking right now.
Anyone got one?
Max Memes, you got one?
Last good sports movie. The Adam Sandler basketball one was good. Oh. Oh, yeah.
I didn't see that. Which one?
What did he say?
Adam Sandler basketball.
Adam Sandler basketball movie. Oh.
Played like a scout. Oh, Thunderstruck starring Kevin Durant.
Thunderstruck starring Kevin Durant. I don't know if it counts, but Iron Claw was very good. The wrestling movie.
Oh, that was fantastic. I guess that counts.
Hustle is what he's talking about. But yeah, let's get another good sports movie.
I haven't seen Hustle. What do you got, Hank? Air.
Air was good. But that wasn't a lot of sports.
Right? Oh, Kevin James. Oh, yeah. Kevin James playing Sean Payton.
This is happening?
No, it happened. It did.
What do you mean it's happening? Kevin James played Sean Payton. Sean Payton, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
It already happened. Is it out? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
It came out like two years ago.
Yeah. Real good. Yeah.
Is it funny or serious?
Bad. I haven't seen it. I don't know. I haven't seen it.
Because that screenshot, that looks serious.
Yeah. Well, it was about Bounty Gate and how he went and coached. He got suspended for a year and then went and coached his kids' peewee team. So, yeah, that happened.
Wow.
Jimmy, I found an old AMA that you did. And one of the people asked you, nothing bad. Don't worry. One of the people asked you, this is from 11 years ago. So put yourself back in that mindset. They asked you if you could share the screen with one other actor, who would it be? And what genre? You just replied with the actors. You gave two of them. Will Ferrell. Oh, check. Second, Jim Carrey.
What's Jim Carrey up to these days?
I don't know what Jim Carrey is up to these days, but that is Jim Carrey in The Grinch. That was the first time I thought to myself, maybe I should act.
Really? The Grinch, man.
The Grinch Grinch. That was what did it for me.
What was it about his acting in The Grinch?
I just remember how I felt watching The Grinch. I was like, wow, he's bringing me so much joy. I would like to be able to bring someone this much joy.
It's amazing. Oh, he retired.
in 2022 but then he retired in 2022 but later returned for Sonic 3 yeah well you gotta come back for Sonic 3 so it's funny to retire after Sonic 2 but come back for Sonic 3 that sounds like a break yeah that sounds like a break that's very cool though that 11 years ago you're like I want to do something with Will Ferrell and now you can go watch it on Amazon Prime you're cordially invited go watch it support our guy so even if you're not a movie guy
Just put it on. You can walk away if you want.
Just stream it. Just stream it. Throw it on.
Stream it as many times as possible.
Just throw it on.
I'm going to do that. I'm going to stream it all night tonight.
Why not?
All right, Jimmy. Thank you, man. You're the best for coming by. Thank you, guys. Also, Jimmy did hit his first shot on the court. That's pretty sick. After his air ball.
Yeah. I hit my first shot. I took one, and then I hit the first one right after that.
Well, you've been training for your basketball movie that's coming out.
Yeah. Exactly.
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Okay, we now welcome on our good friend. It's been too long.
Long time.
Long time. It is Nick Wright. You can see him every day on Fox, First Things First, Fox Sports. You can get his podcast, which is what's the name of the podcast again? What's Wright?
Jesus Christ, man. You're not helping me. No, I'm not. What's Wright with Nick Wright with my son? Yeah, it's me and my son. Yeah, subscribe, follow on YouTube, Spotify, whatever.
It should have been the right stuff.
What's Right's what I called my radio show when it started at Syracuse and in Kansas City. So all my audio stuff's always been called What's Right. It should be the right stuff.
I'm not trying to tell you how to do your job, but it should be the right stuff.
You know what? We'll consider rebranding. Yeah.
I mean, that's not hard to do. In my head, I was like, it's the right stuff, right? Because that's intuitively an incredible name.
And then it's like, another way to look at it is that name's been taken and it's been used. And so this is new. Can I ask, because I know we're going to talk chiefs. Can I ask PFT a specific question first? Yes. I, sorry, I do. I'm a bad podcast guest. Cause I'm just used to hosting. So I, so I apologize. All right. So PFT, if I said in June of 2028,
An asteroid is going to hit Peru and cause damage the likes of which we haven't seen in centuries. And everyone's like, you're crazy. That would never happen. It's never happened in recorded human history. And then in June of 2028, an asteroid hit Uruguay. Am I more right than the people who said it would never happen, I was dead wrong? There's a reason I'm asking this, but just answer that.
Well, I'd say that you're off by like 900 miles. That's not close.
Oh, you think it's not close? Because I would say I'm like 99% correct, 1% wrong.
So let me ask you, Dick, what were you wrong about that you're claiming you're right about?
Well, if in August, I say for the first time in NFL history, a rookie is going to be playing to go to the Super Bowl and make the Super Bowl. And that rookie is going to be a Heisman Trophy winner. And that rookie is going to be a top two pick. And that rookie is going to have a connection to Cliff Kingsbury. And then this all happens and everyone's like, oh, you're an idiot.
You said Caleb Williams was going to make the Super Bowl. And I'm like, I basically called it. I was off by, as you put, 900 miles. But I'm more right than everyone else. Like, I am the most right about this.
I'm going to disagree with you on that. But that's okay. I think that I admire the fact that you were willing to put your balls on the line for a take. You've never been afraid of that. In September of this year, I said, after the Commanders beat the Cardinals, I said, I think that this team can lose the NFC Championship game.
That's how good I thought they were. So in calling the NFC this year, most right, PFT, second most right, Nick Wright. That's how I feel.
I want to defend you, Nick, because I think also you were – so Danny Parkins, who everyone should watch his show, he's with Stink and Carton. And I know Danny. Danny's your best friend, Nick. He joined Fox in the summer. I always saw it as you trying to help him and being like Caleb Williams. Like I would watch you talk about Caleb Williams and be like, he's doing this for Danny.
I appreciate it because anyone talking about the Bears quarterback like this is awesome. So I actually don't think you were that wrong. Have you thought about Play One's Cards Right as the name of your podcast? I'm going to think of some more.
No, I'll stick with what's right. But on the Danny note, so he in the spring was in New York for a conference and came on the show for the first time ever. And this was way before it was even thought of between here. I like, wait, Fox might hire you full time to do a show. And on that show, we talked the Bears and Caleb because they had just drafted him.
And I went over the top because I had already been a big Caleb guy with Caleb stuff. And then the second time on the show was the time when I said I might pick the Bears to make the Super Bowl.
Yeah.
And our group of friends was like, that might be the scummiest thing you've ever done to a friend, Nick. Like, you are... elbowing Danny off the Caleb corner. And I said, you got it exactly right. I was like, I'm playing 4D chess, boys.
I'm elevating the storyline and also making it so if Danny ends up being a full-time person here, no one can be like, oh, you're a Chicago homer because he will be taking a more conservative position than me.
I saw right through it. I actually thought it was one of the best friend moves you could do because you also were just taking all the reckless takes. His takes while also reckless because we all said some really reckless shit about the Bears.
I'm the human shield. I'm the take shield. Nobody's like, oh, this homer from Chicago. Everyone's like, Nick's an idiot. That's exactly how I felt about it. Another thing I don't get enough credit for. Thank you. You were right.
I appreciate it. So to any of the haters out there that might ever say Nick Wright sometimes says things that he doesn't truly believe in the name of generating buzz and discussion, you're saying that those people are absolutely correct.
No, I'm not saying that at all, because I thought the Bears could make the Super Bowl. I thought they had all the things in place. And by evidence, by the fact that this Eagles team made it, it's pretty clear anybody could make the Super Bowl in the NFC. What I said was, oh, I'm sorry, is Max or Mays or Hank any of these? I don't know. Somebody's going to get mad at me, and they don't care.
No, I thought, do I, to answer that, and then we can talk Chiefs. I never say anything I don't believe. I say things I believe more stridently and at a louder volume. But you guys know this. You do too much content to keep track of lies. If I had to, like, remember what I was supposed to believe, there's too many plates in the air. I'm not Red Panda. Can't do that.
So we should all judge, basically, like, if you're watching Nick Wright, and I do think you're insanely talented, the more... The more strident you say it, the more with your chest you say it, that's really like you're kind of ramping it up. Why have you never said something with your chest like LeBron has never done steroids?
Well, I mean, that's... That's such an outrageous accusation.
Whoa, I didn't accuse. He said he hasn't. I didn't accuse LeBron of doing steroids. I said, why haven't you said LeBron has not done steroids?
I mean, I don't know. Why haven't I said Big Cat's 12 feet tall? Things that are obvious, you don't need to say. I just don't need to say it.
You went straight to the accusation. I did not accuse LeBron of doing series. I said, why haven't you said LeBron has not done series?
Hey, can we talk about the Chiefs and about how in your guys' wonderful post-game pod?
Nick, I think Big Cat brings up a good point, which is LeBron's career. Here's what I believe. LeBron's career has been so different than anybody else's. The man is amazing. He keeps doing stuff into his late 30s that nobody has ever dreamed of. Forget about Michael Jordan. Forget about anybody else. This man is the best basketball player in the history of the world.
And frankly, I think that it's an outrage that more people haven't accused him of doing steroids. That's how much I love LeBron James. It's a great point.
Well, up until the dismount, I was thinking, wow, I'm on the screen for the greatest moment in part in my take history. Like, finally, some truth being told about LeBron on the show that you guys don't have to bring me on to do. I didn't love the end of it. But it is, listen, and that is actually, as I try to segue to the Chiefs, a first cousin of what's happening with the Chiefs.
The Chiefs are so great. Mm-hmm. that it must be a conspiracy, it must be rigged, they have broken people's brains. In a way, those people who make those ridiculous, unfounded, without any evidence whatsoever, allegations about LeBron have broken people's brains. But speaking of the Chiefs, can I say one thing to you guys about your post-game talk? Yes, yes.
First of all, I appreciate that you guys have, I look at the Chiefs commentary as that bell curve meme where the dumbest people and the smartest people, if you asked them any time about football, They're all like, I don't know. The team that always wins the Super Bowl is probably going to win it.
And then the pretend smart people are like, well, the Ravens DVOA is top five all time and the Lions point differential. Dan Campbell's got it. It's like, no, it'll be the Chiefs. And I appreciated that you guys have not fallen into this referee fever dream.
Yeah.
Well, we still discuss it.
Yeah, we let people be angry. Bills fans, our biggest take is I don't like when people are really far on one side or the other. I thought he got a first down, but it's not the reason the Chiefs won the game. The Chiefs won the game because they're better than the Bills. They're better coached than the Bills.
But if you're a Bills fan, you should spend the next six months complaining about that first down.
Well, yeah, because it allows you to spend the next six months not thinking about back-to-back years. Josh Allen down three points, ball in his hands, and zero combined points. I know that's verboten on this show because he's a 12-time guest. And I know that it's Sean McDermott and it's everyone else. And Josh is—listen, Josh is excellent.
I also would say Kyle Brand, who's as big of a fan of Josh Allen as you guys, tweeted right before the drive, Josh Allen— was put on this world for this drive, biggest moment of his career, whatever happens. What happened was he got 17 yards. But my only issue was you kept saying if they scored there, it's a two-score game. Because they were going for two. They were up one.
Oh, and that's the two they would have gotten? You killed them for going for two so much.
That's the two they would have gotten. No, no, no. It was actually a compliment to the Chiefs. You're so in your own head about seeing shadows everywhere and being like, oh, this guy said something bad. I was actually saying while we were watching the game, because we watch the games live and we live stream.
I was saying that, and they might not have gotten it because they couldn't get two yards all day. I was saying that if the Bills, during that drive, I was like, if they score here, they should go for two?
They should.
Because there's no way that you're beating Mahomes if you keep it a one-score game with 10 minutes left. I was like, the only way that the Bills can win this game is to make sure that it's a two-score game late in the fourth because otherwise Mahomes is going to win. So that was kind of my whole thing going into the game, during the game. I was like, you got to step on their throat.
If you leave it a doubt, Mahomes will win. That's 100% right. The only other way to win the game, and you really have to thread this needle, but if somehow you can get the ball back down less than a touchdown with, call it, to pick a random number, three minutes and 33 seconds left, all timeouts, and actually have your superstar quarterback come through.
That's the other way you could win the game. And they've now had two bites at that apple in back-to-back years, and they haven't been able to do it. Listen, I think he will win a Super Bowl eventually. But somebody is going to be left without a chair just in making the Super Bowl in the AFC. And certainly the problem that I would worry about for Josh is –
Because he'll beat the Chiefs in the playoffs one time. He's too good, and the games are too close. is it going to be hard psychologically to then recalibrate and be like, that wasn't the Super Bowl?
That's why the NFC is just, that's why PFT is in such a great spot, is it's like maybe you make the Super Bowl in the one in four years the Chiefs aren't there, and if you do, it is you are at the top of the mountain winning one game. All the AFC teams, it's like we have to beat the end boss brutal.
Jalen Hurts has already been to more Super Bowls than Aaron Rodgers. That's what the NFC is right now. Alright, so I got a question for you and this is, I want your honest opinion. Great. This is a complete hypothetical, but If Josh Allen were on the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes were on the Bills, how many Super Bowls would Josh Allen have gotten to?
Because I do, I obviously think Mahomes has proven it more in the clutch. I'm not saying Josh Allen's better than Mahomes. I always say Mahomes is the best quarterback. But I do think at this point there's a lot of coaching and defense that I think Josh would have been at least to three Super Bowls probably because he's played that great.
So Colin, our friend, Colin Cowherd, said yesterday to me that exact scenario. He's like, Josh would have more rings. That's too much. I wouldn't think that. Yeah. Right.
What I would remind the audience of is what Josh has never had to deal with in Buffalo, and it's a testament to McDermott, is what Mahomes had to deal with his first three years in Kansas City, particularly the first two, horrific defense. So that is something we haven't seen Josh have to overcome. They're not saying he couldn't. But right now, it is five appearances, three rings to 0-0.
If it were flipped, I think Josh would have been to 2-1-1, and I think Mahomes would have been to 4-1-2. So that's what I think would have been the scenario.
That sounds like an advanced stats.
Which Bills teams would Patrick Mahomes have taken to the Super Bowl?
Give us the hypothetical matchups.
Okay, so I think there is no question that in 2022, that Bills team with Mahomes instead of Josh, the team that got rolled by Joe Burrow at home, which was weird, that team was awesome. I think 2021... it probably would have gone the way it went, but Josh's way in Kansas City last year with Tyreek.
But I think the early Josh Allen-Bills teams, 2018 is a year, like to think about, both of their first year as a starter, that defense was good. They had just gone to the playoffs the year before with Tyrod Taylor. You drop Mahomes on there, it's to me a similar situation as when you dropped him on Kansas City. Yeah. And so, like, those are ones that come to mind right now. This year, for sure.
Like, so, but whatever.
And I don't think you can say the same for Lamar. Because I do think Lamar has had teams that have been really, really good on both sides of the ball. And he's had really good coaching. And he's fallen. I see Josh and Lamar as different.
Of course. Listen, everybody gets so mad at me. Lamar's Aaron Judge. And there's nothing wrong with it, but he's Aaron Judge. And everyone thinks... I used to say James Harden, but people have such a dislike of Harden's athletic character. And everyone loves Lamar... The person and how – so take that out of it.
Peyton Manning is the obvious comp, but if we want to switch to right now this moment, it's Aaron Judge, which is like on a day-in, day-out basis in the regular season, you're like, is this the best player in the sport or certainly in the top two or three? And then come the playoffs, it's like, man –
Every time again, we don't have to relitigate this, but every regular season, it's Lamar's the best player in the league and every playoffs. It's like, you know why they lost? They put the ball in Lamar's hands too much. And that's a little you know, that's that's a little frustrating.
What do you think about those? You know, the listeners out there that might hear that and say there's a better comparison for James Harden in today's NFL. Who's that? Patrick Mahomes. Oh, the flopping. Yeah. Good point. What would you say to them? I'm not saying that. Good point. But there are people listening right now that are like, I can't believe he said James Harden and then Lamar.
Yeah. Taking advantage of the rules.
Yeah. James Harden, very smart player. I like that you're probably pulling up some stats right now.
No, I'm not. I was actually cleaning something. The keyboard's here. I was cleaning something there. Sorry. I had to... Because when Big Cat texted me and asked me to come on, first, I snap said yes. And then I was like, hey, promote the podcast, which he took so seriously, didn't know the name of. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Because I don't want to.
So obviously, I'd love for some of your listeners to sample my stuff. So I was debating whether or not I want to alienate them. But, you know, my North Star is the truth. So what I would say to anyone who actually believes there is any type of comp between James Harden and Patrick Mahomes is you're the dumbest fucking sports fan I ever heard.
And so, like, my pod's probably not for you because it'll confuse you. And so it just wouldn't be fun. And so that's what I would say to them.
Okay. We do say, especially after the Bengals game this year, the Chiefs-Bengals game, where people were talking about the alleged pass interference at the end, people do have Chiefs derangements in there. They do.
Yes. And that's why I give you guys credit. You guys have said this all year. Yeah.
Yeah, I call it, it's like Chiefs of Gate. Whenever anything bad happens, they start to connect all the dots and be like, oh, this ref lived in Missouri for two months when he was 23 years old. And they start to tie all this stuff together. The fact of the matter is the Chiefs have been just the better team and the better coach team with maybe the best quarterback.
Actually, that's a good question for you. What does Patrick Mahomes have to do to surpass Tom Brady to be, in your eyes, the greatest quarterback of all time?
So I already think he's the best player ever, but he's not the greatest quarterback of all time. I know that's more my style of argumentation than your guys'. I get that. But I think he's the best player we've ever seen. I do think resumes and accomplishments have to weigh a ton. And so Brady gets to be called the GOAT.
I think that if they pull off the three-peat, and someone wants to say he's now the greatest of all time, it's at least an allowed opinion. Right now, it's not an allowed opinion, but that, to me, is a big enough accomplishment it would be.
For me to say it as passionately and clearly and articulately and really brilliantly as I've said the LeBron's the greatest player of all time, I think if he does the three-peat, One more Super Bowl, and it's a wrap. Plus an MVP. One more great regular season, plus another Super Bowl, and it'd be him. If they don't do the three-peat, he probably has to get to six. Okay.
Or I think he probably has to get to six. So this is a lot. This is big. A lot on the table. This three-peat is big. This is huge. Yeah. No, this is, it is, after the, you know, you walked into Bucs, Chiefs, And listen, that game, it actually kind of gives me solace because it was such a blowout.
Because if that was a close game and I was sitting here thinking like, man, it would be 6-4 right now with Mahomes having the head-to-head victory with a chance for it. Like if they had won that game, it would be maybe already the opinion. And if not, certainly one game away, but they got rolled. So such is life.
Yeah, and now the three people. All right, so you're obviously going around. I feel like you're the number one Chiefs fan right now. What's your favorite stat that you just show up to people and you're like, hey, did you know this? Because I would imagine you have a lot of them when it comes to Mahomes or Reed or even Kelsey.
You want like a fire hose of them? Yeah, go ahead. Because there's so many to choose from. Yeah, give it to us. Thanks to that Bills game, Patrick Mahomes now has trailed In 53 fourth quarters in his career, which sounds like a lot, but that's every single loss. It's not going into the fourth. It's at any point. He has a winning record in those games. In games, he's trailed in the fourth quarter.
He's 27-26. Nobody else has won more than 37% of their games. In the playoffs, you mentioned this Josh DuBose stat. He's trailed in the fourth quarter nine times. They've won six of those. He's six and three. And so he's played 20 career playoff games, 11 easy wins, nine times trailing in the fourth, six victories, one overtime loss where he never got the ball.
but the NFL didn't change the rules because of it because we're not the Bills. Another overtime loss against the Bengals where he didn't come through, and then down 31-9, entering the fourth against the Bucs blowout. Mahomes, the – what was the – there was another – oh, you said it. He scored on 13 of 14 of those drives. Yep. Mahomes already –
has won more playoff games, four, when his defense allows more than 28 points than any player in league history. Tom Brady and Peyton Manning combined won four playoff games in their entire careers when their defense allowed more than 28 points. That's pretty crazy.
Maybe he shouldn't score so quickly. Maybe he shouldn't give the ball back to his opponent. Maybe he shouldn't just throw these 70-yard touchdowns to Tyreek Hill.
Well, luckily he doesn't anymore. I think that Mahomes, the one time he didn't come through was the second half against the Bengals. That game ended, or his last time touching the ball, was a perfectly thrown pass down. on third and long to Tyree Kill, but it was in double coverage. It was a risky ball, but it was perfectly thrown. Went off Tyree's hands, and then it was picked, and they lost.
Since then, in the playoffs, Mahomes has one turnover-worthy pass. Since he lost a playoff game throwing a risky pass, he has made zero – well, I shouldn't say zero because he threw the pick in the Super Bowl and he fumbled here. But those are the only two turnovers, and he's only thrown one ball really in jeopardy.
And so I just – I think he is such a different caliber of clutch athlete that it is – we are like the – His ability to diagnose exactly the style of game, of play it would take to win a particular game and be able to play that exact style is unlike any quarterback I've ever seen other than late stage Tom Brady.
And where Brady deserves all the credit in the world is he was at his, you know, kind of physical best late in his career and then also had all the institutional knowledge, which is why he was so dominant, you know, into his 40s.
Yeah, I mean, it is crazy to watch. He thinks the game better than anyone. You can see it when you're watching it, and it's really just, I say it over and over, going back to the Chiefs arrangement and everyone talking about the flags and everything. The reason why the flags always feel more consequential is the Chiefs, if you give them an inch, they will take a mile.
That is what a championship team does. If you make a mistake with them, they will capitalize, and that's what they do, and that's why it feels more significant sometimes, and that's the specialness of Mahomes and Andy Reid and Chris Jones. Okay, quick break from Nick Wright. Does everybody know what season it is?
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Before you go, PFT, can I give you one more stat that is not a Patrick Mahomes stat, but it is? George Karloftis has more playoff sacks than Lawrence Taylor, Aaron Donald, J.J. Watt, Derek Thomas, and that's a Patrick Mahomes stat. It's because George Karloftis has just spent his entire career in the playoffs, so now he's already in the top 30 all-time in postseason sacks.
I'm glad you brought that up. That's a very impressive stat. You can go all day with these Mahomes stats because he's been so great for so long that really you can point to a lot of things and say, this guy's the best, but you will always be the second biggest Patrick Mahomes fan in the world because Dylan Rayola exists.
Have you thought about maybe cutting the hair, wearing the turtleneck thing, like modeling your entire life after Mahomes?
So here's the thing. The Rayola thing, because he has a relationship with Patrick, so Patrick's fine with it. I think a lot of people were more bothered by it or found it more cringeworthy maybe than Patrick did. But what I would say is this. Gotta play better, kid. Like, when it was like, this guy might win the Heisman, I was like, this is sick.
But when he went in that slump, I'm like, nah, that's not cool. Like, you can't... I mean, I feel like if PFT commenter... if your career had really gone askew and you were like on InfoWars or whatever, then I feel like maybe Florio would have been like, change the branding, buddy. But because you became you, it ended up being great for everybody.
Yeah, no, that would be awesome, though. If I was doing info scores for Alex Jones, then that should be called What's Right. That would be the name of my show. Yeah. Your podcast should actually be what's wrong. And then you just admit all the stuff that you were wrong about.
Yeah. So the only long form profile ever written of me was in Kansas City, there were a couple alt weeklies, like what the Village Voice was for New York or whatever, called Pitch and Ink. And one of them wrote, this guy spent a week with me when I was 26.
and spent a week with me, my family, went out with us, all of us, and I thought it was going to be this glowing piece about how this kid from Kansas City who was on the second-rate radio station in town was trying to take down the Heritage Station in a quest to one day become America's biggest sports talk host. That was how I thought the article was going to be written.
Instead, the cover of this paper is me with my pointy fingers, shaved head, my nose at the worst angle imaginable, pointing at the microphone, and the headline blazed, What's Wrong with Nick Wright? And it is 15,000 words about how this kid, whose radio show is in 17th place...
is delusional and just saying i'm gonna beat this guy then beat that guy then get this job and the whole premise of the article is that there's a crazy person on the radio in kent city and it's called what's wrong with nick right oh my god that's great bulletin board material though that is i have it in my office i don't have it up here but i have it up where i watch football i have it framed in my office oh you got a football office i love that
I've got a good TV setup. That's a big fight with the wife is how much real estate in the house goes to 20 Sundays a year of just a wall of televisions. But you guys know what I'm talking about. I have way too many TVs in my house.
All right, so question just about how you do your job every day. Because, again, I think you are very, very talented. I know you agitate people, but that also is what happens when you win. But do you ever send, like when you're sucking off Patrick Mahomes so hard, do you ever send him like a clip and being like, look what I did today at work? Like, did you love it?
No, I've never... Okay, first of all, never maybe in that language, but you're the second person that's asked me that question. Like, do you ever send...
lebron or mahomes clips of you talking about and answer the question and i think that's such an absurd idea like the evidently it's a thing it must be a thing people think might happen because you're the second person to ask me that but i just can't fathom like me being
Me waxing poetic about Mahomes in the AFC championship game, then, you know, copy link, text Patrick, like, hey, did you see this today, buddy? No, I've never done that. Now, as far as, you know, us copying or, you know, each other, I will say this, before the football season, last year, obviously, got the never a doubt tattoo. Oh. And Patrick Mahomes, who rarely, if ever, tweets...
45 minutes after winning the Super Bowl, sent out his first tweet of the playoffs, a picture of him holding both trophies with only a three word caption. Never a doubt. So if you're asking me, like, do I think my, you know, my show is regularly on in the facility? Well, why wouldn't it be if just a compliment fest?
I think that if there was a TV show that you had a reliable, good chance that if you turned it on, they were just going to be like, and here's reason 68 why PFT and Big Cat are the greatest that ever existed. You'd probably have it on in the background somewhat often.
It would be nice if occasionally Mahomes or LeBron would say, just on their own, hey, Nick, if they defended you the same way that you defended them, if somebody's dunking on you online and LeBron steps in, he's like, hey, my man Nick makes some really great points here. You've got to say, you did it again, Nick. Nick is now 98-2 going up against Kyle in these debates in overtime.
You know what? That's a good point. It should be more of a, you know, two-way street. And I've never really, you know, I've never thought of it that way. But I feel, listen, I'm just out here. They're like, oh, Nick, you're a Chiefs apologist. And first of all, it's nothing to fucking apologize for. They win every Super Bowl. Second of all, I'm not an apologist for anything. I'm a truth teller.
Like people used to call me a Bills hater. And then this year when everyone idiotically was like, oh, I like what the Jets are building or it's the Dolphins. I'm like, no, the Bills are going to be where the Bills always are looking awesome, tricking the media into thinking this is the year they beat the Chiefs and then losing in heartbreaking fashion, probably in the conference championship.
Not a Bills hater. Say it again. Not a Bills hater.
That last sentence, not a Bills hater.
No, I'm a truth teller. I'm a truth teller. The most honest people always remind themselves. As right as I've been about the Chiefs, I have been more right about the Bills the last five years. I called them overrated when they were. I called them underrated when they were. I've never missed on the Bills ever.
Okay, what about the birds? What about the Eagles? It sounded earlier like you were looking down your nose on the Eagles.
Yeah, you've been talking junk about Howie. It's a long way to look. I saw your clip where you're like, Howie Roseman basically goes on the message boards and drafts all the players from Georgia.
I basically got every Eagles take wrong. Yeah, you were way wrong. I said... I said, hey, Howie, maybe draft kids other than Georgia kids and who the mock drafts want you to take. Turns out, maybe that's just what everyone should do. Just follow the mocks. I said, and I quote, Saquon Barkley won't be a difference maker. He then had maybe the greatest single season a running back's ever had.
And I had... I had the Commanders finishing second in the NFC East, which sounds great, but it's not second to the Eagles. It was second to the Cowboys with the Eagles coming in third. No, I whiffed as big as someone can whiff on the Eagles, and I just have to own that. I thought that the collapse at the end of last season, they weren't going to be able to get over it.
And I looked at both the big running back acquisitions, Derrick Henry and Saquon Barkley, Man, those teams were awesome at running anyway. Like, why is that where you're spending your resources? And I was just as wrong as you could be. And so now we get, listen, nobody looks at it this way, but they denied a three-peat already.
Because the Patriots won 16-18 and were in the Super Bowl in 17, lost to Nick Foles. It didn't feel like denying a three-peat because it wasn't at the end. So they have a chance to do it again. And if, listen, if Jalen Hurts in these next two weeks can learn to throw like Nick Foles, they might be able to win.
Oh, all right, so Max, our producer, is a diehard Eagles fan. Max, do you have anything to say to Nick Wright? Obviously, he's on your shit list. He has to be.
Yeah, no, I was trying to think of why he was on my shit list this entire time. I couldn't quite remember. I mean, he said a lot of things about the Eagles this year.
Yeah, but the Howie Roseman part, I remember that clip where he's like, Howie Roseman just takes anyone who's on the mock draft and then the media sucks him off.
Yeah, they say he's a Twitter GM.
Yeah, that one was wrong.
Well, I mean, he's made some pretty good moves. Yeah, yeah. No, I got it wrong. And shout out to Max. Personal growth is important. You listen to my whole Eagles thing. You didn't have to take a mental health lap like you did with Big Cat a few weeks ago. So that's all good. Like, I think it's all. No, that's true. That's growth. It is growth. And I see that fathead of Jalen Hurts behind you.
I assume that's moments before he scans the field, sees open receivers, and then decides to tuck and run.
Oh, you could have gone even hurt. I think Jalen Hurts, I saw his stats, like 25% of his throws this year have been throwaways. That's the big Jalen Hurts. Just scanning the field and then throwing it 10 feet into the stands.
Can I ask a question? What do we make of the straitjacket comment? Why do the Eagles, when everything is going well, decide to meet with the media and just be like, let's create... Nobody was – six weeks ago, the only story around the Eagles was Vic Fangio transformed the defense. Saquon's going to break Eric Dickerson's record. And then A.J. Brown's like, passing sucks.
We got to get better at it. And everyone freaks out. And then everything seemingly is fine. And they're winning a playoff game. And A.J. Brown's like, now's the time for me to break out this book. And I've got to listen to Eagles fans be like, he does it all the time. I'm like, well, it's literally never been caught on video on the sideline ever. And the Eagles are a lot of their games are on TV.
And then this week, Jalen Hurts is like finally took the straight jacket off me, which, again, not to be too psychological handcuffs. are used to prevent you from harming others. Straightjacket is if their words are going to harm yourself. So the deep-seated psychology of it is my coach thinks that I'm going to hurt us, hurt our team, so he tries to prevent it. And so, listen, don't worry.
I'm sure that despite all that, Nick Sirianni is going to outfox Andy Reid in these 10 days and get it all taken care of. Max? I'm not worried about that at all. Max?
Well, there was a picture of A.J. Brown reading Inner Excellence. Yes, there was a picture.
When he had 98 yards and 15 targets.
Is that a video from the game? Well, I stopped listening when he said there was no photographic evidence of him reading the book.
I said video. Check the tape, my friend.
That's tomato, tomato.
Nick just basically was like, your quarterback is worried about hurting himself and he needs a straitjacket. And you're like, yeah, but the A.J. Brown point, you're wrong.
Well, I mean, that was the first thing that came to my mind. I mean, I'm not going to win this fight. I don't know how to battle here. I don't fight with any logic.
Yeah, so go ahead. Fight him with no logic. Tell him that he's an idiot. Tell him that Philly's the best.
Jalen Hurts coming off his best game of the year, and then the last time he had his best game ever was against the Chiefs in the Super Bowl, so there's no reason to believe that he can't do it again.
What happened in that game?
Listen, the best game Jalen Hurts has ever played—
Yeah.
Sorry, I didn't. The best game Jalen Hurts ever played is that Super Bowl game. And I would argue it is the single best game any player has ever played that also included them making the play that lost their team in the game.
I think it's the, I think it is the, I think of all the games where one guy made a totally unforced catastrophic error that cost his team a championship, he played the best in that game. Wow.
It's got to be so awesome to meet Nick because that was another Mahomes stat that Max just gave you. He played the best game he's ever played in his life. You're like, yeah, that's the best quarterback performance I've ever seen ever. And the Chiefs beat him.
It was a good performance. He shouldn't have fumbled. It was a second quarter fumble.
Yeah.
No, I actually, I'm being unfair. And I actually think that fumble was probably a little overrated. It was third and six anyway. If you just get stuffed, they're going to punt. Obviously, the Chiefs are going to score because they're the Chiefs.
And you know, Max, or Nick, the reason why I have Max around is like, it's like softball practice for us. And you can see that in like two seconds. You're like, oh, this is, you guys are just keeping around so you can just do a little slow pitch.
So, again, I feel I wish you guys had me on at some point if the Steelers somehow ever played in a game that mattered, because I'd much rather argue with that idiot Steeler fan who a couple of years ago sent a really, really. Oh, what's the word off color? I'll say tweet either about me and my wife or about me and someone. But it was it was me.
It was the the what's the stupid Tom Green college movie? Freddie got fingered. Yeah. No, not that one. The good one. The road trip.
Yeah. Yeah. The one. Was it Road Trip?
Yeah, it was Road Trip. Yeah, Road Trip. Road Trip. You know the skinny, nerdy white guy that is in bed? He, for some reason, sent that picture out and said, live look at Get Nick Right. Oh, no, Jerry. And I'm like, I don't know if that's about me or about my wife, whatever it is, but I really actively dislike that person. Yeah. I don't know his name. I know he's an idiot.
And I know you guys torture him and make him try to hit hole-in-ones and stupid bullshit.
No, that's his own doing. Jerry goes a little too hard, and we've put some guardrails in since. There's been times where I've had to clear tweets. Listen, we've worked on that. We've looked in the mirror. If it helps at all, Jerry was addicted to crack for a lot of years. Really? Yeah, he was. Yeah, he's actually a great story. Like, he helps a lot of people.
But, yeah, that one I'll say Jerry went too far.
So the point I'm making is I have nothing against Max, and I actually think he's – oh, here it is. So I got it wrong. I got the story wrong. I'm going to text to you what he did. Okay. Here it is. I just found it.
Listen, whatever you text me is not even in the top ten worst tweets that Jerry sent.
Oh, I'm sure, but regardless, it pissed me off because I never came for this idiot. Yeah, no, that's fair. That's totally fair. And so I sent out a picture of me and my wife out celebrating something, and he reposted it with the Malibu Most Wanted thing or whatever that was. I don't know what it was, but it made me mad. So, Max, this isn't for you.
You probably said one mean thing. Not even mean thing. You probably just said one thing that he viewed as negative about TJ Watt, and then he went nuclear. That's all it takes for him. Literally, that's all it takes.
You might have said Miles Garrett is a better player than TJ Watt. Yeah, that's probably what it was.
You probably gave Miles Garrett the defensive player of the year, and he went absolutely nuclear because that's how he's wired.
How's he going to deal when they trade TJ Watt for a first and a third?
We've done a little trial balloon with him, and it has not gone well. And I actually, I'll apologize for Jerry. Jerry's a very sweet guy. He does go too hard on Twitter. If you guys ever met, I think you'd get along. But he does that. He'll be the first to admit. He had to put that, you know they have a timer on Twitter where it's like a minute timer to make sure you want to tweet it?
He had to put that on his Twitter because he had so many incidents.
Okay, you know what? And I didn't know the trials and tribulations. Yeah.
let's let's have something good come of this hands washed of it okay okay great love that and it's not excusing I trust you guys if you say he's a good guy I trust it we all kind of get angry on Twitter yeah he's got a good heart and and and the the the crack stuff doesn't excuse tweeting mean things people I'm just saying Jerry does do a lot of good things for people now and in recovery and all that stuff um
This has been awesome, Nick. We should have you on more often. You're so much fun to talk to. So give us a final score for the Super Bowl. I showed you I have a future to win $100,000 on the Eagles. You told me to cash out.
Well, yeah, I said I never, ever, ever cash out bets. Quick, very quick anecdote, and then I'll let you go, and I'll try to give you a final score. So Kevin Wilds, who is just the best person in the world to work with, he's not a gambler at all, but he bets like $1 or $2. And his first game of the... First...
Day of the NFL season, he let his sons pick all of the Sunday straight winners a dollar and hit it. But he's also a big cash out guy. Like the moment it shows a 10% profit, he'll click cash out. So he and I have a deal now. Where I told him, anytime you want to cash out, screenshot, text me, I'll auto pay it. But if it wins, I get it. Like, because I want to be the house in that.
Because cashing out is never the right option. Unless, of course, you have $100,000 that is predicated on the Chiefs losing a football game, in which case you should definitely cash out.
Yeah, and I told you, I bet the Chiefs last year in the Super Bowl, and it was one of the most fun experiences because I just sat there being like, half the gambling cave had Brock Purdy, and I was just like, oh, I got Mahomes?
Well, that's dumb.
Yeah, like, I got Mahomes here? This is going to be fun.
Then I spent a year thinking about how Kyle Shanahan messed up the new overtime rules. Yeah. And that's the reason why I lost all my money.
Yeah. All right. So here's the thing. The producers of the TV show, because we're going to be down in New Orleans and we're trying to build stuff or whatever, asked me yesterday. They're like, hey, need a final score for the game because we're going to build something for a reveal. I was like, well, I don't have that yet. And he's like, what do you mean?
And I'm like, you think I'm just going to willy-nilly come up? I got to deep dive. I got to review the all 22. Now, listen, I think I'm going to pick the Chiefs. I'm not even sure yet. I got to really review the information. But I'm leaning towards... 34-24. Okay. Leaning.
Okay.
That would be the over. But that's, you know, write that in pencil. No. Not in pen. I'm going to bet this.
You should do like Lee Corso does in College Game Day and put the mascot head on, and it's the paintball mask and the cap that Chiefsaholic wore. That would be fun. Did you watch that documentary?
Believe it or not, I have not. I have not watched the Chiefsaholic.com a little bit.
You're featured in it. I'm featured in it? Well, yeah, they take pretty much every podcast clip in America that's been talking about the Chiefs. I think we were on it for about a second when we told our old friend Billy to go try to track down Chiefsaholic. Yeah, so we were in it as well.
All right, so everyone do watch First Things First. Also, do subscribe to What's Right.
I love you guys. And in all seriousness, not only congrats, one moment of genuineness. I appreciate the direction you guys have...
has gradually pushed some others in sports media of everything that it is supposed to be fun and it doesn't always have to be so life or death um and so i think you guys are great and i appreciate you having me on and we'll come i'll come on whenever i'll talk to you yeah okay this has been a lot of fun and uh good luck to your chiefs i'm not going to cash out you know i'm not going to cash out i can't
No, you can't. And it wouldn't be fun watching the game. The only real way to make the cash out, and this is the only thing I'll say, for the cash out to be an option. You would have to cash out and snap put the full amount on the Chiefs. It has to be a 100K winner one way or another. But you can't just cash out and take it and not have big action on the Super Bowl, obviously.
Right. And it's not like last time the Chiefs played the Eagles, I actually had a chance to win 200K, and the Eagles were up 10 at halftime. Yeah. So I'll be fine. It's going to be fine.
You'll be fine.
It's going to be fine. 34-24. Hey, congrats, by the way. We'll say it right now. We've done this every single year for, I think, six or seven years in a row. Congrats on the Kansas City Chiefs winning the AFC West in 2025. We're the first to report it. We are the first to report it. We've been reporting it around this time every single year. Congratulations on another AFC West title.
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Okay, let's do Fire Fest of the Week. By the way, we had some breaking news. We recorded some of the show in the morning. Breaking news.
Justin Tucker might be in some shit.
Yeah, that kind of rubbed me the wrong way. He was allegedly on his Deshawn grind. Yeah. The dates are interesting because it says that the experiences he was having at the Baltimore area massage parlors. stopped in about, what, 2019? Oh, is that it?
I wasn't able to read the whole thing.
That's like right when the Deshaun stuff came out. Maybe it was like the block's too hot. But it's six different masseuses who are accusing him of being inappropriate, nutting on the table, exposing himself, etc., etc.,
uh and his his statement that he put out which he denies everything okay he says that it's a newspaper with an ax to grind okay and uh when he first learned of this article he was trying to get more information they only gave him like five minutes to respond before they published so he's he's denying everything but there's no charges being pressed uh either civil or criminal so right now it's an article okay so we don't know okay but if true
Why would they accuse him with no charges?
Because the newspaper can write an article and be like, we've talked to these women. Here's what they say happened. Even though there's nothing in court, they can still tell that story if they believe it's true.
Interesting.
Yeah. So I don't know. I don't know. If true, pervert. Bad. For a kicker, even a pervert. A kicker.
The jizz puddle.
Yeah.
Okay. Hank, your fire fest. I don't really have. I'm good week. Good week. Case race was fun. Obviously, the anxiety of getting blackout drunk with your coworkers and then waking up the next day and realizing that it was all taped and that you don't remember a lot of it is not the Fun anxiety, I would say. But other than that, pretty good week.
Yeah, we had a pause thing on Wednesday morning. Very bad planning, but shout out pause Chicago. We dropped off the check for Stella Blue Coffee. We did some volunteering. Hank was scheduled to do it. Before the case race started, I told him, I was like, dude, you don't have to come. It's not a big deal. We have more than enough people.
And when I got home from the case race, hammered, Hank texted me at midnight and was like, dude, I can't get my face makeup off. I'm going to have to cancel for tomorrow. There was a lot. I was just like... I already said it's okay. He was just in his field. It would have scared the dogs. Yeah, it would have scared the dogs. But yeah, watch the Yak case race for if you're a Max fan or Max hater.
Please don't watch. Watch the case race. Please don't watch. Noon Central on the Yak YouTube.
I did exactly what I thought I was going to do. No, you didn't. And it's so bad.
Max was on word count. Oh, man.
I should have. I knew.
yeah birds burn up i think it was i think people will will will enjoy the max experience because i know that i had tears in my eyes multiple times i'm officially retired from yeah case races that's you unfortunately that's not something you can retire from when your number's called you you show up and the next one is going to be in the summer royal rumble and so yeah you'll be there
If you want to see Max getting physical, tune into the case race.
Listen, I've said this before, but the case race is essentially childbirth. Just as painful. We do it. Everyone regrets it. And they're like, that was miserable. Terrible hangover. Don't want to watch myself drunk. And then six months go by and you're like, oh, you don't be fun. A case race.
Yeah, I was looking at my wall of pictures and thinking about, what if we had another one on the wall? Yeah. And I don't want to get there, but I want to have it done.
Yeah. So come June, July, Royal Rumble time. We'll all be ready to go. We'll all be ready to go. Okay, PFT.
So my Fyre Fest was all my clothes got stolen, which I talked about on Wednesday's show. But in addition to that Fyre Fest, I am basically out of clothes now, but I did have clothes arriving at my house that I'd ordered ahead of time. Um, that happened to show up after my stuff was stolen.
It also just so happens that it's all Washington commanders stuff that I tried to buy before the NFC championship game. And they showed up the day after the NFC championship game. So now I'm just wearing a Mike's tan. We're still Jersey today because it was the only clean shirt that I had. I've got a sweet new commander's jacket that I'm wearing too.
So you're going to, so you're going to be at Superbowl week and Nola, you're going to be like the random Kansas or Duke fan when they're not in the final four.
Yeah.
But they had already booked their tickets?
Well, for me, a Commanders fan, Piquette doesn't get this, Hank, like me and you do. But our season doesn't start until the championship game. And so, yeah, I kind of penciled myself into the Super Bowl. Yeah. What were you going to say?
I have something else for you. Uh-oh. I got sent a box of Commanders merch on Monday. I didn't have the heart to give it to you.
So now I have new clothes.
Yeah, you have more clothes. Is it a championship? It says, like, anybody, anywhere, anytime.
Yeah, that was our team motto.
Correct.
Still is. Still is.
Well, the Eagles at 2 p.m. in Philly.
We played you. We showed up. That is correct. We will play anybody. That is correct. The motto is not we will beat anybody anytime, anywhere. True, true, true. We will play anybody, anytime, anywhere.
Actually, that's my motto, too, when it comes to NFL football. If any NFL football teams want to schedule me, I'll play them. Yeah. Bring it. Yeah. EMT is a podcast. We will play any NFL football team as long as it's a scheduled NFL game on a Sunday in the fall. I got some tape coming out.
Yeah, that's true. I got some tape coming out. It's a motto for our podcast just in terms of watching football. Yeah. Anybody, anytime, anywhere. We'll watch. If you're an NFL team, I will watch you play football. We will watch.
Okay, my Fyre Fest, I mean, we've already talked about PFT and I turning 40. That sucks. I did get some presents this morning, but my kids demanded to open it themselves. Oh, I guess it's a reverse Fyre Fest. My daughter did wish me happy birthday this year. I remember last year she abstained. She knew it was my birthday. She just was like, I'm not going to do it.
I kind of respected the hell out of that. She was actually number one today. She came into my room and said, happy birthday. That's very cool.
Yeah. I don't want to make this about myself, but you guys turning 40 is affecting me pretty hard, more than I thought.
Yeah? In what way?
It just makes me feel really old.
That we're old?
Yeah.
Yeah, we feel old when you get old.
Like being with you guys when we turn 30.
No, but that's the same for us. When you turn 30, me and Big Cat were like, fuck. I know.
I know. It's crazy. We're old.
Yeah.
What can we do to stop getting old?
Yeah.
I mean, it's crazy. Gaz tweeting the video of me for my 30th birthday being like, what a decade. And it's like, shit. I know. It was a decade. Yeah. Yeah. What do you want us to do, Hank? We just got to be not old? I'm sorry that our birthdays are making you feel bad. I know. I appreciate it. Apology accepted.
Okay. It's a good thing we're getting a 12-year-old intern.
Yep. Yep. Nine. Keep going down.
I want an intern that can't walk.
We're getting a newborn. We're going to raise a newborn. It's like a frat house dog. That was Memes' idea. Memes was like, why don't we just adopt a child?
He's done a great job with Mr. Pear.
Yeah, true. Mr. Pear is probably our longest living pet. Do you think Mr. Pear is depressed?
Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Mr. Pear's been in hibernation. I bought a tortoise that hibernates.
Okay, so your tortoise is not depressed, but it's sleeping all day. It's lost interest in everything.
Yes. I have a plan for next football season, though. To stimulate it? Uh-oh. How are you going to stimulate it? I have a plan. Okay. I can't tell you the plan, but there is one. Why? Because Mr. Pear might hear?
Who are we keeping the plan from, Memes?
It's a plan. You guys can't know the plan. Okay. What is going on?
I don't know.
He's been Googling some weird shit. Memes has been on a weird. He gets weird vibes of the week award. I don't know what he's planning, what he's doing. He's just excited for New Orleans. Yeah. Super Bowl week. It's going to be all about the Eagles, all about Max. I wish I could have done that.
He's just never in a good mood. I don't want to poo-poo him, though, because I'd rather him be in a good mood.
True.
But it is. It's off-putting. Yeah. It's just not normal.
He just loves New Orleans. He's been talking about, like, New Orleans is his favorite city in the world. Yep. And since he found out that this Super Bowl was in New Orleans, he's been talking about this week for the past six months.
Three years ago? Yeah. Had Mark on the calendar. I was like, don't let the pit get you before New Orleans.
He actually did say that. He's like, as long as I make it to New Orleans.
Where's the Super Bowl next year?
San Francisco.
Oh, Aaron Rodgers' homecoming next year for the Super Bowl memes? Should we just put Max in the cover art for the whole week?
Absolutely not. Absolutely not. We don't need to be on it. No, no.
Let me and Big Cat produce.
People are already sick of me.
Pardon Max's take. We did see there's at least one media outlet that wants to interview Max.
Yeah. Yeah. We're going to get you on Radio Row, buddy. We're going to parade you around like a show pony. We're going to get you tassels.
Look at my boy. Look how strong my boy is. I have nothing to say. Oh, man. Nothing noteworthy to say.
40.
3.
95.
Gotcha there, buddy. I think this is Memes Day.
What do you mean, Memes Day? Did somebody take 40? I did. Has he gotten it?
No, I think today's the day.
Oh, okay. Call my shot.
We got to move this thing back.
Memes, what's the number? I'm thinking. You picked 8? No. Let's go 8.
Thank you.