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My Therapist Ghosted Me

Gold Pigeon, Chelsea Handler & Sharon Horgan

Fri, 14 Mar 2025

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Chelsea Handler + Sharon Horgan 4EVA! <3Joanne asks Vogue who her dream mentor would be, and together they've decided to take up acting classes so they can get cast in The White Lotus - because who wouldn’t want to live at The Four Seasons for six months?!If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [email protected] review Global's Privacy Policy: global.com/legal/privacy-policy/For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.comFor more information about Joanne's gigs, visit: www.joannemcnally.comThis episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.

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Chapter 1: Who are the hosts of this podcast?

14.069 - 21.311 Joanne McNally

Hello, welcome to My Therapist Ghosted Me. It's myself, Joanne McNally, as usual, and it is... Unfortunately, me again.

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21.391 - 26.953 Vogue Williams

My work wife and CEO, Vogue Williams. Oh, very nice, fellow CEO. Hello, everybody.

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26.973 - 28.293 Joanne McNally

Absolutely not.

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32.366 - 33.406 Vogue Williams

Joanne McNally.

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33.606 - 45.35 Joanne McNally

Vogue Williams. Sorry, Joanne McNally. Sorry, no. Vogue Williams. I have a question for both of us. What? If we're both in London, why are we not together?

Chapter 2: What exciting news does Joanne share about a friend?

45.37 - 51.572 Vogue Williams

Well, Joe has had... I don't know. Do we tell his news? Yeah, we tell his news. Yeah.

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51.652 - 53.233 Joanne McNally

We like to... Yeah, we rat people out.

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54.283 - 65.03 Vogue Williams

He's had a baby. He had a little baby girl. Yeah, I wasn't sure if we were going to go that far, but a baby girl and he has called it Vogue Joanne Ashywell.

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65.569 - 68.391 Joanne McNally

I heard it was Joanne Vogue actually, well, but that's what I'd heard.

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68.651 - 71.893 Vogue Williams

Oh no, I've actually seen the birth certificate. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Chapter 3: What are the hosts' thoughts on women's health issues?

71.933 - 85.201 Joanne McNally

Fine. Jo now has two baby girls, which in my opinion is like winning the baby lottery. I'd love two baby girls. Oh, two baby girls. They'd be the best of friends. They could raise each other like little dogs.

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85.649 - 111.461 Vogue Williams

I was on Lorraine today and I was telling her, I was like, cause her granddaughter's called Billy. And I was like, oh, if I ever had another child, I'd love to call it Billy Valentine. Cause I thought it was so cute. And then she was like, yeah, BV. And I was like, oh no. Not BV, bacterial vaginosis. I was like, oh, I didn't even. Maybe it's just me because I have OJ, Otto. Otto James, you know.

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111.481 - 129.93 Joanne McNally

I bet you were going to say because you have bacterial vaginosis. And I was like, oh, OK, good. I'm glad. I think we should talk more about women's health. So that's a good segue into you having bacterial vaginosis. There's no shame in having it. It is what it is. I caught it off, Joanne. If I did get it, I'd raise awareness.

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130.71 - 140.455 Vogue Williams

I would, I'd raise awareness. I would too, but I don't currently have it. I don't have it. I told you, I'm not a real, I'm not a thrush girl, really.

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140.715 - 149.76 Joanne McNally

Listen, we've made it very clear that we have no understanding of our own bodies or any sort of understanding about female health issues. And so no one's coming to us for that. I think that's fair to say.

150.16 - 162.961 Vogue Williams

Well, we might not be as stupid as we seem around the reproductive system because there has been a recorded case of a woman becoming pregnant. Joanne, you actually showed me the story. Anal sex.

163.55 - 183.196 Joanne McNally

Yeah, I saw that and I said, this has a bang of immaculate conception to me. Mary, she got stung and Joseph was going mad. She's like, oh, you know that story, the kind of the real story that probably happened where it's like, oh, look, it is yours. It's just, it's also kind of God's whatever. This woman, I would say, has been maybe riding around vaginally.

183.496 - 195.294 Joanne McNally

Her husband doesn't know that maybe he's a big anal man. He's like, well, it can only have happened if it's anal. That was my take on it. Unless she has no walls inside her or unless the sperm has a little hammerhead or something. I don't know. I've never heard the likes of it.

195.594 - 211.766 Vogue Williams

I like my mother to think that I have never had sex before. So she too thinks that I had an immaculate conception. And you know what? Mary, when she had it, God was just a fellow around the corner. He was called God. And she was like, God. It was me and God had the baby. Indeed. Yeah. Where God came from.

Chapter 4: What embarrassing moment does Chelsea Handler share?

535.796 - 550.7 Joanne McNally

And she says they were kind of friends and they'd known each other a very long time and they always got on. And she obviously looked up to Jane because it's Jane Fonda. And Chelsea went, yeah, sure, when? She goes, tonight. And Chelsea was like, oh God, this feels like I'm in trouble. So she went over and she said, and I was correct, I was in trouble.

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551.02 - 563.164 Joanne McNally

Jane sat her down and she said, had you noticed the last time we met, I was quite frosty with you? And Chelsea said, I had noticed actually, but I tried not to overthink it and just thought maybe you were having a bad day. And Jane was like, well, I wasn't. It was actually your fault.

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563.184 - 578.128 Joanne McNally

I was being frosty with you on purpose because you came to my birthday party recently and you ruined the night for everyone. You were so rude. You came in with this really dark cloud over you. You were really rude to loads of my guests and you kind of ruined the night. Yeah.

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579.036 - 582.178 Vogue Williams

I think fair play for saying it though and not just ignoring her forever.

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582.198 - 599.888 Joanne McNally

Totally. Chelsea said, what a gesture of sisterhood. She said, Jane Fonda will never have to have that conversation with me again. And she said, and she was right. I was in a bad place mentally and she was on something and Jane was like, I don't know what drugs you were on. And Chelsea said, it's actually nothing to do with the drugs that I'm on. It's where I am in my head.

600.409 - 619.8 Joanne McNally

And then she started doing all this work on herself and It's just, it's such a good book. I cannot recommend it enough. But the reason I, I don't know why, but I really wanted to tell you about this part of the book, which I've listened to on repeat. I've listened to it about six times, I would say. Chelsea Handler is very generous to her family. She's obviously got buckets of cash.

619.84 - 625.793 Joanne McNally

She brings them on these huge holidays. You know, she brings them to Martha's Vineyard where all the Chelebs love to go.

Chapter 5: What valuable lesson does Chelsea Handler learn from Jane Fonda?

626.073 - 634.615 Vogue Williams

I think the presidents go there as well. Do they? I don't know how I know that, but I think it's true. We might have to fact check that, Emily. Is it the American Cotswolds? I think it must be.

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635.296 - 645.198 Joanne McNally

Sorry, we have a silent producer. Emily's taking over. Emily's taking over. We can hear you now, Emily. You're coming through loud and clear, loud and clear. I'm sure Obama or someone was there.

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647.853 - 660.08 Vogue Williams

I have to stop reading the Daily Mail. Honestly, I know too much about celebrities. Whoever this Martha is, she's really cracked it. I want to go there. We have Obama Plaza or whatever it's called.

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660.44 - 666.364 Joanne McNally

Yeah, we have Obama Plaza, which is basically a little shopping center in the middle of Ireland somewhere and it has a Supermax at all.

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666.504 - 673.187 Vogue Williams

It's a petrol station. It's a petrol station. But it's a very good one. He's been there as well.

673.847 - 681.289 Joanne McNally

Very good one. I think, I don't know if Obama's actually been there. I think he just like flew over at once and everyone was like, he looked at us, come on, let's build.

681.769 - 684.669 Vogue Williams

Everyone needs petrol and a fry in a box. Obama was there.

685.069 - 700.472 Joanne McNally

Go on. So anyway, she brings her family on these huge holidays and she has all these nieces and nephews who she calls the Nuggets and she's never had children herself but she says she just wouldn't be able for it but that she loves her nieces and nephews and she feels like they're kind of her kids even though she says she offers

701.707 - 721.623 Joanne McNally

no parenting advice at all she's like I'm not equipped and she said one time on one of these big family holidays she realised that she had spoiled her nieces and nephews and they were being rude to her staff and she said she left the holiday she went off to film something and because she'd done she said the old Chelsea would have just kicked off and told everyone to go fuck themselves

Chapter 6: Who do the hosts dream of having as mentors?

1207.856 - 1220.49 Joanne McNally

Yeah, they take the piss. I am hardcore. I'm hardcore. Or like, I think I'm hard to infiltrate. But then once I'm infiltrated, I am goo. I am maula in a man's hand. It's actually embarrassing.

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1220.61 - 1233.021 Vogue Williams

When I look back at certain people that I was going out with, I'm like, oh, I can see why that didn't work out. Because you just get, you're like, I don't care about me. I only care about you. Well, what can I do to make you feel better about yourself? Fuck me. Morning, King.

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1233.041 - 1243.648 Joanne McNally

How can I pleasure, please, and serve you today? You're like the little jester. Hello. Some little bald lad who thinks Link's Apollo is an aftershave.

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1243.788 - 1256.071 Vogue Williams

I'm like, what can I do to serve you, King? My sweet man child, I love you. Yes. I will lie in this puddle so you can walk across me. I couldn't bear your feet to get wet. Don't get me a towel.

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1256.391 - 1269.953 Joanne McNally

That's fine. Your semen can remain on me for the day. I just love it. I love the way it cracks into my skin. Is that gross? Can we cut that? No, it's funny. I would like Chelsea Hanna to be my mentor. You would like Sharon Horgan to be theirs. Let's put it out into the universe, even though I don't believe in the universe at all.

1270.333 - 1274.077 Joanne McNally

I don't believe in manifesting any of that shit, but I'll give it a go.

1274.557 - 1296.693 Vogue Williams

I think we should try it. I've always said that I'm not really into manifesting, but it's working for some people and it might. And also, also, I wouldn't mind being in, what's his name? What's his name again? The Irish actor that I love. There's many. There's many. I know, but I was watching him last night in the thing on Netflix. That doesn't really give it away. I was watching him in a movie.

1296.713 - 1304.565 Vogue Williams

You know him. He's good crack. He was dancing at the SAG Awards. Ah, come on. I mean, I'm telling you to come on and get angry.

1305.746 - 1312.291 Joanne McNally

You don't know his name either, but you're saying you want him to mentor you. Scott, Andrew Scott. Oh, okay. Well, you've ruined that now.

Chapter 7: What humorous insights do they share about their past relationships?

1313.672 - 1317.235 Vogue Williams

He'd be a great one. I was watching that. I started re-watching the thing on Netflix last night.

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1317.696 - 1340.622 Joanne McNally

You're like, I can't remember your name, but I'm a huge fan. Do you know what's, I had a request from, do you ever get these requests from universities where they ask you if you'll come in and they can give you a honorary doctorate or award or something like this? But I had one from an Irish university that came in. I won't say who it was because whatever. But my agent sent it on.

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1340.642 - 1360.281 Joanne McNally

He was like, my agent, which shows he doesn't read emails either, was like, oh, this is great. Look at this. This is deadly. Look at this, an honorary blah, blah, blah. And I was like, oh, okay. And I read it. It was like, firstly, it was Dear Joanna. And then it said, basically it said to say it had been copy and paste. This had obviously been rejected by about 16 people.

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1360.301 - 1382.329 Joanne McNally

It was like, we love your contribution to acting, which I never acted in my life. And then it said also your online, your contribution to the online, your contribution to the internet or something like this. Like no mention of comedy or anything. And then at the end it said. Maybe they didn't like your contribution to comedy. They were like, we'll ignore that part.

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1384.03 - 1397.155 Joanne McNally

But we'll bring you in for that cameo you had in that Sharon Horgan show, Women on the Verge. It wasn't even a cameo because the cameo suggests you have a profile and they'll wheel you in. I just fucking got a tiny part. And then at the end it said, we hope he is open to our offer. He.

1397.616 - 1398.497 Vogue Williams

Oh, stop.

1398.777 - 1403.745 Joanne McNally

Yeah, so I don't know how many people turned it down, but I was like, I think I'll have to pass on this. I would like to be a doctor, but.

1404.449 - 1413.055 Vogue Williams

No, I get that sometimes and it's like, hey, and it's somebody else's name. And then you know who that was. It's like, come on, like, don't be that sloppy.

1413.155 - 1420.18 Joanne McNally

Not that sloppy. I know, you get an email and they're like, we really hope Joanne can take part in this. And we're like, can't wait to hear from you, Angela Scanlon. You're like, oh, okay.

Chapter 8: What are the hosts' current projects and future plans?

1453.312 - 1460.967 Joanne McNally

I mean, it's a bit late now, considering I was completely snubbed by your collage of the women who mean the most of you.

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1463.018 - 1465.62 Vogue Williams

I got myself a glue gun. Is that of any interest to you?

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1466.161 - 1468.323 Joanne McNally

Okay, are we sniffing glue now? Go on, what's the crack?

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1470.165 - 1474.389 Vogue Williams

I'll go down. I love that that's your first avenue. No, Joanne.

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1474.429 - 1477.011 Joanne McNally

Finally, something we can do together. Great, hit me.

1477.612 - 1499.6 Vogue Williams

No, Joanne, I've started crafting. Thank you very much. Oh, God. Listen, it's the schooling system in England. You have to make Easter bonnets. And I want my child to go in with a great Easter bonnet. So I said, do you know what? I'm going to go in on it this year and I'm going to make two really great Easter bonnets and I need a glue gun for that.

1499.66 - 1509.408 Vogue Williams

And I just really feel like it's like when I got that drill that I still haven't used that you wanted to borrow, which I'm glad you didn't and weren't able to. It's the glue gun now.

1509.693 - 1520.376 Joanne McNally

Just once you don't set up a stall in Battersea Park selling your own brooches, that's when I will ring your mum. I'll do a wellness check. Just don't set up an Etsy account. Don't lose the run of yourself. Stick to the hats.

1520.836 - 1526.099 Vogue Williams

You don't want your crochet cushion I made you? No? I do. I do?

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