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TALIBAN HOSTAGE Gets Betrayed, Scammed, & Escapes!

Mon, 06 Jan 2025

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Geno Shares his story of being held hostage in Afghanistan. Get 50% sitewide for a limited time. Just visit https://GhostBed.com/cox and use code COX at checkout. Do you want to be a guest? Fill out the form https://forms.gle/5H7FnhvMHKtUnq7k7 Geno shares his story of being held hostage in Afghanistan. Send me an email here: [email protected] Do you extra clips and behind the scenes content? Subscribe to my Patreon: https://patreon.com/InsideTrueCrime 📧Sign up to my newsletter to learn about Real Estate, Credit, and Growing a Youtube Channel: https://mattcoxcourses.com/news   🏦Raising & Building Credit Course: https://mattcoxcourses.com/credit 📸Growing a YouTube Channel Course: https://mattcoxcourses.com/yt 🏠Make money with Real Estate Course: https://mattcoxcourses.com/re Follow me on all socials! Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/insidetruecrime/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matthewcoxtruecrime Do you want a custom painting done by me? Check out my Etsy Store: https://www.etsy.com/shop/coxpopart Listen to my True Crime Podcasts anywhere: https://anchor.fm/mattcox Check out my true crime books! Shark in the Housing Pool: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0851KBYCF Bent: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BV4GC7TM It's Insanity: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KFYXKK8 Devil Exposed: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TH1WT5G Devil Exposed (The Abridgment): https://www.amazon.com/dp/1070682438 The Program: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0858W4G3K Bailout: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/bailout-matthew-cox/1142275402 Dude, Where's My Hand-Grenade?: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BXNFHBDF/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1678623676&sr=1-1 Checkout my disturbingly twisted satiric novel! Stranger Danger: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BSWQP3WX If you would like to support me directly, I accept donations here: Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/MattCox69 Cashapp: $coxcon69

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Chapter 1: What happened after Osama bin Laden was killed?

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Osama bin Laden has just been killed. And he turns to me and he says, I'm not going to let you guys leave. I call the U.S. Embassy and I tell them, hey, there are two expats. We've been taken hostage. They're like, sorry, there's nothing we can do. And all of a sudden, that's when we start working on our escape plan. I always kind of had this idea that...

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I wanted this job and I always saw it in my head where it's like you get this phone call and you get a suitcase and you're going to go somewhere or something.

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Like James Bond or something. Something super secretive.

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Yeah, something kind of cool like that.

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32.185 - 51.279 John Smith

And I'm a huge fan of James Bond. I love the whole, they walk in the, they push the button or they get the phone call. They walk over to the room, they open the special cabinet and they've got their guns and they grab their stuff and their gear and they walk out, they get in a car and they helicopter lands and takes them off. Like how fucking cool is that?

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Yeah, I mean, that's a little bit what it ends up turning into, except that there's no helicopters. But you do get a phone call and you get... That's Hollywood. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You do get a phone call, you get plane tickets, you grab your bags, and next thing you know, you're on a flight to Jordan or Dubai or wherever it may be, and... I love that lifestyle.

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What exactly do the military contractors do?

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Every single job that the military has, that's what contractors do. It's everything from cooks to HVAC to security around the base. Contractors have been doing this job since the American Revolution, basically. And people think that they're evil. They're all mercenaries. And that's not true. And to apply the word mercenary to it is a, is really a disservice. Absolutely. A hundred percent.

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So you got, you got people that are like literally carpenters and stuff like that going over that. They do the mail. They do every single job and they do it far more efficiently than the military can do it. So like, One contractor can probably do the job of 10 service members, right?

Chapter 2: What does a military contractor do?

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Yeah, they're all his weapons because the company never got its registrations, never did what it was supposed to do. And he secured all his weapons basically on his own because, again, Afghanistan is still like the Wild West. Everything's shady over there, right? So he leaves and basically we have no weapons.

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And I brought all my own body armor anyways because I had a feeling that this was going to be like a really fucking shady thing. Right. And so thank God I had my own body armor and all this other stuff. Well, we go to the airport to go pick up these two, the girl and the guy. And so I'm with the driver and another guy who's like our local national fixer. This is this guy, Abdul.

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And I know Abdul a little bit, but I don't know him like a lot or whatever. Well, thankfully, Abdul is like, he's pretty squared away. And again, I don't know a lot about him, but he's like squared away. He gets me a handgun. He's got a handgun or whatever. He's got one. And so that's what we got. Her first day landing. Now, mind you, her and I have like talked a lot.

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We kind of know each other already. We met in Dubai once before. So we go to the airport. We pick them up. And... The other guy, the PA, he's like, he's talking the whole time because he knows a lot of people. And I'm like, bro, we got to get back because there was riots going on in the city at that time.

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And our camp was like going to get, if we didn't get back in time, those riots were going to move and cut us off and getting back to our own camp. And I kept telling him, I'm like, dude, we got to go. We got to go quickly. We're going to get cut off and we're not going to get, we're not going to get back to our camp. And he didn't listen. And I was like, dude, we've got to go. We've got to go.

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We've got to go. And he kept taking too long. And so we start going back. And of course, sure as shit, we get cut off. And we're not able to make it back. And again, I don't know all the other stuff about this company. I thought I knew enough. So I'm like, fuck. I'm thinking, where are we going to go as an alternate? Abdul's like, well, we have a safe house we can go to.

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And I was like, what are we going to use as a safe house? He's like, well, there's an alternate clinic that's not used by us, but it's a property of ours. And I don't know that a hundred percent, I mean, I know Abdul a little bit, but I don't know if that's true. And so I turned to the other guy, the PA, Carl, I'm like, is that true? And he's like, yeah, yeah, we do have that.

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I was like, and I'm just now hearing about this. And so we go to that clinic, right? And so I think we're going to go there and we're going to post up there until maybe this, the riot clears and we can get back. And so we go there and we go into this place and we get in there and all of a sudden I'm like, what the fuck is this? We have this clinic that's got all this medicine, all this equipment.

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all the shit I didn't know we had. And we've been struggling, like finding medicine at our own clinic. And there's these two dudes in there. They're like, it's cold as fuck. They're in there shivering. And I'm like, who are these guys? Like, Oh, they're like the caretakers. And I'm like, these guys like stay, they live here. Like, I guess I'm like, well, who's, who's been paying them?

Chapter 3: What was the prison program in Afghanistan?

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Uh, so thankfully we get out, we don't get shot. Obviously we get down to the bunker and so we're down there and we get in there and there's a bunch of people that are like really non-combatants at this point. And they're fucking freaked out and they're armed and I'm, we're kind of pissed about that because we're not. And yeah, so yeah, we're kind of pissed off about that.

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And our nurses are down there too. And so we're down there for a little bit and I'll finally comes over the radio. Like, Hey, we got casualties. Can you guys get to the clinic? And I'm like, yeah, of course, we'll get him. So now we got to move to the clinic. And so it's me and the nurses and me and Claire. And so these nurses, the nurse and the doctor, and they're from...

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Uzbekistan or one of the stands or something like that. Because again, third country nationals is cheaper. So now we got to walk from out of the bunker. We got to go all the way around this big way to get like around all these other buildings to come all the way back around to get to the clinic. But to do that, we're going to have to move through the field of fire to get there.

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So where the front of the base kind of got hit and where the firefight is going on, because there's a firefight now going on against the attackers. So we got to move past all that. to get to the clinic and to get to the casualties and stuff like that. And so once we start moving out, the nurses and the doctor, they're like, they're just, it's a female doctor.

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I mean, they're just like, they walk down the middle of the street. They're like brave as shit. They're just like, and you see all these like army guys running around. They're like hiding behind buildings. They're all scared and everything. And here comes this, The nurses running down the street.

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Are they not grasping the gravity of the situation?

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Oh, no, they get it. They get it. They don't give a shit. You know, they're from, like, Erzgon or whatever. I'm sorry, not Erzgon, but Uzbekistan or whatever it may be.

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Like a common thing, like, you're going to get hit.

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They're hard as shit. They grow up in winters that are, like, 20 below. Like, yeah, they don't care. So we're walking. And then I see these two army guys. And these guys were like Sergeant Major or something. And they're like hiding behind everything. I'm like, hey, Sergeant Major, cover me in the medical party while we go. They're like, what? I'm like, cover us. I got the medical team.

Chapter 4: How did the largest prison break occur in Afghanistan?

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These... Foreign companies and the Americans and these different companies, they're not going to be shipping their people to an Afghan-run facility. With no Americans running the thing. The Americans are running it. Yes. No, no, no. Our administrators are these people right here who have a vast amount of experience. Okay, cool. But they're not going to have Abdul and Akbar running it.

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Nah, we're good.

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Yeah, and they've met with us so many times as well, like these companies that we've interfaced with that are about to sign contracts.

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Plus, as soon as he leaves, what's he going to tell these people? He could pick up the phone in 10 minutes and just destroy that entire – you've got 15 contracts that are about to be signed. I make 15 phone calls. All those go away. Yeah.

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Okay. Yeah, I was just curious.

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Yeah, so I'm like, and I tell her, I'm like, fuck no. Like, I tell her, I'm like, look, I will club you over the head, put you in a sleeping bag, and I'm going to throw you over the wall with me. We're going to go to the other camp. Like, that's just not going to happen. And I was. I was prepared to do that, you know, because I was like, I am not leaving her behind.

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You know, I think they're going to do the worst to her. You know, like, it's like, I feel like I'm saving her from herself. Like, you know, just like her train of thought on that, just, you know, like... At the time, I didn't think she was duplicitous, but you know, I would find out later, you know, like, yeah. So, so she, she relents, whatever.

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And we're going to make our plan to get out of there. Yeah. So anyways, so moving on from that, she comes back and we have our plans set up and everything. And, um, you know, I tell Abdul we're leaving the next day or whatever. And, um, I want you to drive us. We're going to, it's going to be four, it's going to be four of us.

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