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Matthew Cox | Inside True Crime Podcast

Gene Borrello on Cooperating, Witness Protection, & Breaking Mafia Code

06 Mar 2025

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Gene Borrello talks about cooperation. Gene's Book https://www.amazon.com/Born-LIfe-Borrello-Ex-Bonanno-Enforcer/dp/1667805576?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAabgl5rzOHLgE9s24QKECb33XCHl7rgFGmclEwHxuOOR7hLh-zzeY7gfFOY_aem_Y-uyMySLcpR82zgiyv5YBAGene's IG https://www.instagram.com/geneborrello/?hl=enUse promo code COX at https://www.mybookie.agDo you want to be a guest? Fill out the form https://forms.gle/5H7FnhvMHKtUnq7k7Send me an email here: [email protected] you extra clips and behind the scenes content?Subscribe to my Patreon: https://patreon.com/InsideTrueCrime 📧Sign up to my newsletter to learn about Real Estate, Credit, and Growing a Youtube Channel: https://mattcoxcourses.com/news 🏦Raising & Building Credit Course: https://mattcoxcourses.com/credit 📸Growing a YouTube Channel Course: https://mattcoxcourses.com/yt🏠Make money with Real Estate Course: https://mattcoxcourses.com/reFollow me on all socials!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/insidetruecrime/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@matthewcoxtruecrimeDo you want a custom painting done by me? Check out my Etsy Store: https://www.etsy.com/shop/coxpopartListen to my True Crime Podcasts anywhere: https://anchor.fm/mattcox Check out my true crime books! Shark in the Housing Pool: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0851KBYCFBent: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BV4GC7TMIt's Insanity: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KFYXKK8Devil Exposed: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08TH1WT5GDevil Exposed (The Abridgment): https://www.amazon.com/dp/1070682438The Program: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0858W4G3KBailout: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/bailout-matthew-cox/1142275402Dude, Where's My Hand-Grenade?: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BXNFHBDF/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1678623676&sr=1-1Checkout my disturbingly twisted satiric novel!Stranger Danger: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BSWQP3WXIf you would like to support me directly, I accept donations here:Paypal: https://www.paypal.me/MattCox69Cashapp: $coxcon6900:00 - Who You're Telling On Matters07:02 - Cooperation and Risks in State Cases ️15:00 - Witness Protection and Corruption24:53 - Cooperation and Its Consequences ️34:01 - The Complexity of Cooperation41:36 - Understanding Plea Deals and Trials ️55:54 - Sentencing Outcomes and Surprises1:02:00 - The Decision to Cooperate1:15:06 - Journey After Release Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0.009 - 12.816 Host

It's not what you're telling on, it's who you're telling on. If you're telling on the right people, you're walking out. Cooperation, it was created for mafia. We vow to not ever do this. Our code, I have it on my arm. I'm a sellout. But I walked out the door. I was facing for 100 years.

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15.942 - 32.005 Unknown Speaker

You know, you get the rat thing, snitch, rat, all that stuff. So, and this is what I get in the comments all the time, which is basically what they say is, you know, oh, you fucking, you just fucking gave somebody up and you walked right out of fucking jail. Or, oh, it's, you know, like you don't.

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33.241 - 45.847 Unknown Speaker

they act like you get arrested for fucking stealing $10 million and you go, Oh, Hey, uh, I know a guy who's got a fucking lab. And then they go look and they go knock on his door and they arrest him and they let you out of fucking jail. Like it absolutely.

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46.328 - 64.395 Host

No, especially if you have violence, you know what I mean? So, um, um, like I said, I'll break down the cooperative, the, the agreement, the cooperation agreement for New York in that state is the best. You can't really compare it to other States. Um, Like, when I was in the units, in the Woodstock units, right, you're with the most high-profile people in the country.

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64.755 - 84.381 Host

You're with people from all over every state. I was with guys from Alaska, bikers from Alaska, literally. One guy's name was Long Walker. I was dying laughing. Anyway, so you're with people all over the country, and they've all got agreements. And if you sit with a table of 10 of us, all from different states, and then New York, you will see the difference.

84.741 - 84.961 Unknown Speaker

Yeah.

85.021 - 92.6 Host

So let's say, for instance, I had a friend named Jay-Z. I had a friend named Jay-Z. He was a head Latin king out of Chicago, Illinois.

92.62 - 93.24 Unknown Speaker

Okay.

93.4 - 112.185 Host

They told him, if you have a murder, there's nothing under 20 years, no matter if you tell on God. You tell on Jesus Christ, put him in prison, you're getting 20 years. That's your minimum. And then we could work with you after that on Rule 35 so we could use you in other cases. Right. You understand? But your minimum is 20 years, so do not expect anything under 20. Right. You understand?

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