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Episode 620: The Miseducation of Ed Larson - JFK & Government Conspiracies

Fri, 16 May 2025

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In the mysterious world of conspiracy theory, we're often left with more questions than answers... well, this week Ed's askin' the questions! And Marcus & Henry have the answers! We're diving into the JFK Assassination, the conspiracies surrounding the death of the notorious US President, and MORE on this - The Miseducation of Ed Larson: JFK & Government Conspiracies Edition. For Live Shows, Merch, and More Visit: www.LastPodcastOnTheLeft.comKevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 4.0 Licensehttp://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/Subscribe to SiriusXM Podcasts+ to listen to new episodes of Last Podcast on the Left ad-free and a whole week early. Start a free trial now on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.

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Chapter 1: Who are the hosts and guest on this episode?

1.482 - 13.105 Ed Larson

There's no place to escape to. This is the Lost Podcast. On the left. That's when the cannibalism started. Who's that?

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Chapter 2: What is the slider conspiracy theory and its humorous introduction?

13.125 - 25.789 Henry Zebrowski

All right, my boys, my dirty boys. Man, I miss sliders.

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26.953 - 30.276 Marcus Parks

The show? No. I missed that show, too. That was great.

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30.436 - 34.379 Henry Zebrowski

Henry and I had a bunch of great sliders in Detroit, and we missed those sliders.

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35.02 - 51.852 Henry Zebrowski

What I don't understand is why are there not more slider-based restaurants? We talked about this the whole time while we were eating those sliders. I feel like sliders are being left behind. I feel like that should be a new... Because we had, obviously, fancy hot dogs. Then we had donuts. Then there was Korean tacos.

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51.873 - 56.876 Henry Zebrowski

Sliders had their moment. When? When? Oh, and I would say like 2009 to 2015.

56.916 - 59.639 Henry Zebrowski

When was the great slider revolution?

59.679 - 60.679 Henry Zebrowski

You didn't have any money.

60.88 - 61.7 Henry Zebrowski

Yeah, we were poor.

61.82 - 62.02 Henry Zebrowski

Yeah.

Chapter 3: What is the main premise of Ed Larson's 'Asked Questions' segment?

176.52 - 181.321 Henry Zebrowski

No, I think if it's related to anybody, it's Big Pharma. Okay. All right.

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181.341 - 188.543 Marcus Parks

Big Pharma. All right. That's good. I would think Big Pharma would be down with the sliders because that would increase diabetes and heart disease and such.

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188.723 - 193.425 Henry Zebrowski

Yes. Well, I know that, oh my God, there's a place called Rock House Sliders. Yeah, you just have to look harder.

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194.205 - 201.087 Marcus Parks

We live in one of the biggest cities in America. You're going to be able to find sliders. No, this is Australian.

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201.107 - 203.228 Ed Larson

This is fucking Australian. Sliders?

Chapter 4: What are the origins and family background of JFK discussed here?

203.288 - 206.629 Henry Zebrowski

Yeah, sliders. Sliders. Sliders.

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207.009 - 208.592 Ed Larson

No. What the fucking shit?

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208.612 - 210.615 Henry Zebrowski

This is fucking, they're ahead of us.

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210.715 - 211.376 Ed Larson

We're moving.

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211.476 - 212.017 Henry Zebrowski

We're going.

212.037 - 214.1 Ed Larson

I'm bombing Australia. No, Bob.

214.14 - 219.689 Henry Zebrowski

There's only people doing what you want. No, because they did it first and I won't. No one can have them. I can't.

220.931 - 234.418 Marcus Parks

Today. We're here talking about conspiracies. Of course, on our update show, we started a little segment, or actually it was more of a theme, of Ed Larson Asked Questions.

234.558 - 253.927 Henry Zebrowski

Yes. Yeah, no, it's basically, I mean, I know a lot of this stuff where I have like my own thought on it, especially today, because we're going to... center on government conspiracy. There are other episodes just like this coming out down the road about serial killers and stuff like that, which we have already recorded. But this one is about government conspiracies.

Chapter 5: What is the theory about the Secret Service's role in JFK's assassination?

382.351 - 385.733 Henry Zebrowski

But I thought British has something like Masher Dasher where they come on these.

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385.753 - 386.413 Marcus Parks

No, they use Deliveroo.

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386.613 - 388.874 Henry Zebrowski

Yeah, and something like Assgrass and fuck shit.

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388.974 - 391.716 Marcus Parks

Yeah, Assgrass fuck shit. Yeah, that's the British delivery app.

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391.836 - 411.247 Henry Zebrowski

Yeah. They're pillars of the English language. All right. So JFK, we, you know, we as a group here, I think the three of us, we all enjoy and almost lean towards the theory that Kennedy was accidentally shot by a hungover Secret Service agent.

411.347 - 411.748 Marcus Parks

Definitely.

411.768 - 413.089 Henry Zebrowski

Definitely. It's my favorite theory.

413.129 - 416.23 Henry Zebrowski

It's not what I'll say happened, but it's my favorite one.

416.531 - 438.103 Marcus Parks

I'll amend that is that he wasn't hung over. It's that everyone else in the Secret Service, all of the more experienced Secret Service agents, they were all hung over. The guy who was actually holding the gun was brand new and extremely inexperienced and should not have been holding the gun. He should not have been holding the AR-15 that day. That's the whole thing is that they were hung over.

Chapter 6: What are the motives and possible conspirators behind JFK's assassination?

611.934 - 625.026 Marcus Parks

Well, one of the things that we like to say again and again is never confuse incompetence for malice. And that, I believe, is one of the central questions or one of the central things to keep in mind when it comes to the JFK assassination.

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625.807 - 645.261 Henry Zebrowski

Because a lot of people had motive to kill JFK. When we did the series, you'd cover how, like, there was definitely a reason why you'd think that CIA might want to kill JFK. They had total motive to do it. Why there were obviously the Cubans and the mafia and all these people that could all come together. We joked about how JFK was the most killed man ever.

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645.581 - 651.224 Henry Zebrowski

There were so many people there to kill him. But the actual mystery start, the city of Dallas didn't want him.

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651.244 - 654.626 Henry Zebrowski

They put out a full page article like, don't come here, go fuck yourself.

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654.646 - 657.227 Marcus Parks

They hated him. The wanted poster that was circulated. Yeah.

657.587 - 681.495 Henry Zebrowski

Oh, yeah. And Lee Harvey Oswald, though, did in his own personal diaries, wrote several entries pro JFK because JFK was willing to speak to the Russian consulate during the whole Cuban Missile Crisis thing. So he was like he had little moments in there. So that's why I believe there was a series of convoluted mistakes slash actual what you'd call a cover up. But they were very human.

681.815 - 704.853 Henry Zebrowski

So the first cover up happened because they were. Secret Service was fighting with the local Dallas doctor team, the medical team at the morgue, right when they were working on his body, that's saying, we're going to take the body directly to Washington, D.C. And the head of their, the coroner there was like, no, this is a homicide. And it's happened here in Dallas. So this is my jurisdiction.

704.873 - 713.6 Henry Zebrowski

We're going to treat it like any other homicide. And they said, no, you're fucking not. That's the president's body. We're going to do anything that we want with it, which is why they essentially stopped

713.9 - 737.484 Henry Zebrowski

all the body they were fighting over it as they were getting it onto the plane but we now believe that's why but we think that the reason why the cover had happened here is because the secret service were just covering their own ass to cover up the biggest workplace accident in american history world history i would say yeah and and it was because it would have made america look so foolish

Chapter 7: What does the podcast say about Lee Harvey Oswald's involvement and capabilities?

882.89 - 898.096 Henry Zebrowski

I was, first of all, surprised. Yeah. Well, because it's very interesting, because you look at the window where he shot Kennedy from, there is a much better shot when Kennedy's coming up the street right towards the window that he didn't take, and he took the harder shot as he turned and went down the street.

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898.136 - 916.483 Henry Zebrowski

Because he was not a trained assassin. Yes. And he was just a man with normal boot camp training that also was not particularly good at that. And when he got shot, I also bought one of my big conspiracy theory beliefs is that he was not there to shoot JFK. He was there to kill the governor and that when he shot, he missed the governor. And why would he want to kill the governor?

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916.583 - 933.57 Henry Zebrowski

Because the governor was he was I forgot what it was. He was he was angry about something. This is all from his journals. where he was ranting about the governor, he was ranting about all this shit, but he was like, he kind of did the whole like, and fuck you, and fuck you, JFK, you're cool, blah, blah, blah.

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933.59 - 941.993 Henry Zebrowski

Like, it's like this very strange, he pointedly was angry with the governor, but then it depends on whether or not you believe that was placed by CIA.

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943.143 - 963.828 Henry Zebrowski

Yeah, for sure. All right. So here's what I want to do. The Secret Service thing makes the most sense to me personally. That's fun. But there's no way for us to truly 100% know that's correct. We'll never know. Yes. So what I want to do is I want to talk about some other options. Okay. Because I was just there. I was, honestly, had a lovely afternoon.

963.948 - 973.411 Henry Zebrowski

Wasn't it nice? Yes. Did you talk to any of the conspiracy theory buskers? A little bit, but I didn't want to give them money. Conspiracy theory buskers are my fucking favorite.

973.471 - 986.876 Marcus Parks

Me and Henry did actually give a guy 20 bucks once just to hear what he had to say. Yeah. And it was all nonsense. Yeah. Yeah, it was all total nonsense, but it was entertaining nonsense. Oh, very much so. I was thankful. It was worth the money. Yeah, yeah. He had a visual aid and everything.

987.116 - 1011.706 Henry Zebrowski

Oh, I bet. Visual aids. You've got to be careful. Disgusting. Gotta wear eyeball condoms. So, all right, so here's the thing. I'm there, I'm walking around the grassy knoll, I see the corner of the fence, and I see the X, I go behind the fence, It's the perfect shot. Yeah, it is like the like perfect fucking shot. And we all know he was a very hated man.

1012.026 - 1025.156 Henry Zebrowski

We know that people claim that shots came from behind the fence. We have people ducked because they were fucking heard bullets whizzing by them and shit, according to their testimonies. So who would the other shooters have been?

Chapter 8: How does Jack Ruby fit into the JFK conspiracy theories and MKUltra?

1378.533 - 1384.719 Henry Zebrowski

Keep quiet. They just don't. I refuse. But they disappear. Well, they do, but still.

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1384.939 - 1402.413 Marcus Parks

But who's doing the disappearing? Like, that's the thing. You've got to get people to do the disappearing. Yeah. And if you're disappearing thousands of people, then that means that there are thousands more people. Like, it mushrooms out into how many people, like, the sort of staff that you would need and the sort of people. Of blind loyalties. Blind loyalty.

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1402.433 - 1409.116 Henry Zebrowski

Blind loyalty. You don't think do we have enough of that? No. I think there's enough Americans that are blind loyal to do crazy shit. I mean, look at the military.

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1409.236 - 1429.49 Henry Zebrowski

But waivers. Blind loyalty is also, loyalty is a very funny word. It's like there's something about it. Like we all want to bank on this. We think of this. It's actually a very toxic concept. Kind of like faith, where it's like you want something without evidence. You want prizes without work. You want something without loyalty believes, oh, these people are going to adhere to me no matter what.

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1429.81 - 1451.145 Henry Zebrowski

But you know what? Loyalty is funny. Loyalty shifts. Things go back and forth because loyalty not deserving is something you're going to have a bunch of people. Who at first believe in this idea about JFK being eliminated and want him out of the way. Think that the CIA is correct. Think NSA is correct. You want him to work. You want to do all this stuff. But then on some level, humans change.

1451.545 - 1462.31 Henry Zebrowski

Humans like, and if you have so many people in the mix, there's just not, I just cannot believe that there's not one of them. That's going to want to spill the beans with the receipts.

1462.511 - 1479.025 Marcus Parks

Well, I think when you talk about loyalty in the military, I think if you look at Vietnam to bring up Vietnam one more time, it's how many guys went into Vietnam fully believing in what they were doing and came out the other end giving Senate testimony. You know, it's like talking about a village.

1479.065 - 1483.088 Henry Zebrowski

Your opinion changes. If you kill a bunch of whistleblowers, your opinion might change.

1483.388 - 1495.631 Marcus Parks

Yeah, if you're asked to just kill a bunch of people, then your opinion might change. And I think it's the same thing. People do have an upper limit for how much they can handle and how much they can do.

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