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Best Of: Richard Kind / Melinda French Gates

Sat, 19 Apr 2025

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You've seen Richard Kind on countless TV shows and films during his 40-year career — Only Murders in the Building, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Spin City, and A Serious Man, just to name a few. He's now the announcer and sidekick on Everybody's Live with John Mulaney. He spoke with Terry Gross about the new gig and why he's glad he's not that famous. Melinda French Gates also joins us to talk about her new book, The Next Day, which reflects on motherhood, grief, philanthropy, and life after divorce.John Powers reviews the new Apple TV+ series Your Friends & Neighbors, starring Jon Hamm.Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoicesNPR Privacy Policy

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Chapter 1: Who is Richard Kind and what is his new role on Everybody's Live with John Mulaney?

397.555 - 398.536 Richard Kind

He was terrible.

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399.772 - 401.674 Terry Gross

I got a lot of mileage out of that, though.

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402.114 - 403.515 Richard Kind

Did you? Okay, well, a lot of time.

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403.535 - 404.596 Terry Gross

Yeah, got a lot of attention.

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404.836 - 405.697 Richard Kind

Oh, good, good.

405.797 - 408.559 Terry Gross

Yeah. Insulting me was actually doing me a favor.

408.579 - 412.142 Richard Kind

Evidently. Don't expect it from me. I'm not that kind of person.

412.362 - 424.251 Terry Gross

Okay, okay. So, Everybody's Live, your new late-night talk show, is adapted from last year's Netflix series, Everybody's in L.A. How did Mulaney describe it to you when he asked you to be his sidekick?

424.588 - 445.805 Richard Kind

Yeah, he didn't. I've got to say this about that show. We were supposed to do six last May, Friday and then Monday through Friday. And he said, even if we get moon landing ratings, we're not doing any more. So you can imagine my surprise when I read he's doing 12 more. It didn't even say whether or not I was coming back.

Chapter 3: What are some highlights and notable roles from Richard Kind's 40-year acting career?

2667.239 - 2690.757 Melinda French Gates

Well, I'll say when I was working at the foundation, I started to see through all my travels that The difference that when a woman could space the births of her children, it made an enormous difference in the children's health and being able to go to school and then ultimately the wealth of the family.

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2691.357 - 2710.865 Melinda French Gates

And yet I would meet so many women around the world who knew about contraceptives but didn't have access. And as I started to learn and study about it and think, is this the right thing for us to do as a foundation? I learned the history of contraceptives and when women had had them and under what circumstances and when they hadn't.

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2711.705 - 2728.412 Melinda French Gates

And I realized we needed to do something about this as a foundation. So I decided on the global stage. I'm going to set the agenda because for whatever reason, this has fallen off the global health agenda. And yet it's vital for women and for babies.

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2728.512 - 2742.377 Melinda French Gates

We were losing, we still are, too many moms in childbirth because their babies were coming too close and too often, particularly in these low-income countries. And then the babies were dying as well.

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2743.945 - 2760.072 Tanya Mosley

It's really interesting in this moment that what was seen as a soft issue is now almost the opposite of that. You're fighting against many headwinds as divestment and women's issues is really like at the center of government funding cuts and lots of other cuts and laws.

2761.993 - 2796.169 Melinda French Gates

Yes. And I always say, you know, what is it that we value as society? Don't we value our children and our babies? Yes. If you value our children and our babies, don't their mothers need to be healthy? We know a mom is healthier when she can space the births of her children. So to me, it's that we are getting some of our values misaligned right now. And they aren't the values that I hold dear.

2796.229 - 2811.845 Melinda French Gates

And I don't think they're the values that most families hold dear. To me, we need to really think about our values and align our government funding with those values. And we seem to be headed in the wrong direction in my point of view on those issues right now.

2813.883 - 2835.472 Tanya Mosley

Speaking of values, earlier when you said you've been trying your best to give your money away, I chuckled at that. But I only chuckled because it just sounds funny, you know. But when you're a billionaire, right, you can't really ever give all your money away. And just a few days ago, Abigail Disney, she's the granddaughter of Walt Disney, she said in an interview that,

2836.032 - 2859.107 Tanya Mosley

Anyone who can't live off of $999 million is a sociopath. And, of course, I thought about you because you've been saying this in not so many words for a really long time, that it's important to give your wealth away, that you could never really spend it in your lifetime, you or your family. But here's a question.

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