This is the second week of our four-week holiday break. Today we’re featuring another one of Carter’s favorite shows: Otherworld. In this episode of Otherworld, host Jack Wagner interviews Annalise about an unusual camping trip she took with her boyfriend, at a spot that had been in her family for decades. The location was very isolated, off the grid, and required a six-mile hike through dense forest to reach. As they trekked through the wilderness, they couldn't shake the eerie feeling of being watched. Despite the unease, they pressed on, dismissing it as paranoia. Once at the campsite, they encountered other strange occurrences, and a mysterious sound that left them shaken to their core and grasping for answers. Otherworld is available on Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. New episodes of Conspiracy Theories will resume December 25th. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is the focus of this episode of Otherworld?
Hey, Conspiracy Theories listeners, this is the second week of our four-week hiatus, but we're still bringing you something I'm sure you'll love. Today, I'm sharing an episode from another one of my favorite podcasts, Otherworld. On our show, we've explored our fair share of paranormal events. And on Otherworld, Jack Wagner interviews regular people with real unexplainable experiences.
Be sure to subscribe to Otherworld wherever you listen to podcasts, and we'll share a link in the show notes. New episodes of Conspiracy Theories will resume December 25th.
Welcome to Otherworld. I'm your host, Jack Wagner. The story comes from a woman named Annalise who lives in New Hampshire. Annalise's family has an area deep in the woods where they've been camping for decades. And during the COVID-19 lockdown in 2020, her and her boyfriend decided to take a trip out there. And that's when something very strange happened to them.
I think when you're used to living in a city or in civilization in general, it's easy to forget that there are still a lot of remote places where something can hide or where an event can take place without anyone ever knowing about it. This story is really unique. I'm not sure if what happened to these people even has a name or category,
Maybe even there are multiple things that happen to them at once. Either way, I think you're really going to like this one. This is episode 88. The title is Sawyer River Road, and you're listening to Otherworld. Otherworld. Hello? Is this Bobby? Yes, it is. At its core, the science, you can't argue with.
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Chapter 2: Why did Annalise and her boyfriend choose Sawyer River Road for camping?
All I know is that we had to leave the house for a night and he did a ceremony of a blessing or something. And everything changed after that point. We never experienced it again. You know, we didn't, I really, everything toned down. I really was like at peace and we really didn't have too many things going on that felt threatening and,
You know, there were some occasions where like me and my sister would wake up and have like a weird bruise or cut or I would have these really scary dreams and like be screaming for my parents in the night, you know, and I remember all of it. It was very vivid and strange. So it kind of shook me, you know, and I think my parents knew like, OK, something's not right.
After that, everything was really good. So I felt pretty okay with staying there and never had a mimic again, that kind of deal. So I did have some experience with paranormal occurrences before. I do think about it a lot. I don't rule anything out, but I also don't put my foot down and I'm not like, this is the way that it is. I believe X, Y, and Z. I'm very open.
I've heard a lot of stories from people. When I start talking about this stuff, usually everyone around me kind of It's like, oh my God, you're reminding me of this story of what happened to me as a kid. And I just realized at some point, like, okay, I can't deny that people are having experiences and I don't deny myself that.
I could sit here all day and try to debunk, debunk, but I just think that the universe moves in mysterious ways and everybody kind of translates that in different ways. So I'm definitely open to a lot of different things. So this was late March of 2020 and COVID-19 had just kind of hit. And I think everyone kind of experienced their workplace, you know, hitting some kind of halt.
And I was working at a bank at the time and I was a bank teller. So You know, I immediately lost my job, essentially. They didn't know what to do with us. You know, I was at home and just having a ton of anxiety and my partner was having a lot of anxiety as well. And we love to camp all the time.
And getting two weeks off of work was like a godsend in a way for us because we were like, okay, we got to go camping. And the place that, you know, it was like no question that we were going to go is this place called Sawyer River Road. And I grew up going there. So I was two months old the first time that my parents brought me up there. So I've been going there before I can even remember.
So my dad, when he was 14 years old, he took a Greyhound bus from Lexington, I believe, with two of his best friends. And they just went up to the Kankamangus Highway in New Hampshire. And they just had some backpacks and they decided that they were just going to go explore the mountains and find some cool spots. And they ended up finding this place, Sawyer River Road.
And my dad, you know, immediately fell in love with the place and they ended up staying there for a couple of weeks. And just kind of camping and making big stone fire pits and huge stone chairs and things like that along this river. And they came upon this trail that kind of went up to, it's almost like a valley of mountains with this big, huge pond in the middle of it.
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Chapter 3: What eerie feelings did Annalise experience during the hike?
And there was a really thick snow on this trail. So when we were hiking up, you're kind of postholing your feet through the snow, which means like there's basically like a foot of snow, two feet of snow, and there's a hard crust over the top, but it's not enough to support your weight. So your feet will just kind of punch right through it.
You have to be really careful because there's big boulders and rocks on this and you can just stick your foot through and then twist an ankle or something. So we were really taking our time going up there, trying to be careful of that. That was a lot of work. You know, you're sweating at that point and it's cold out and you're just trying to kind of get up there. So we took our time.
It probably took another two hours just to hike that two miles up there. And we get to the top and, you know, we were just like, we did it. You know, we made it up here and we were starting to just put our packs down and stretch out a little bit. And I brought two nips of Jack Daniels whiskey.
So we broke those out and we did a victory shot and we just started unpacking and got our tent set up, pulled out our sleeping bags. You know, we had our firewood going. We had some freeze dry meals. We were heating up and we felt really, really good at that point. But again, I couldn't get over this feeling of someone being up there.
And like I said, my partner, the entire time was feeling the exact same way, but we just weren't communicating it because you don't want to let your... your fears kind of show in those moments. Cause what are we going to do? Hike six hours out? You know, we just got up here. We can't freak ourselves out right now. So we were just like, okay, we're going to, you know, hang out.
We did our shot of whiskey. Let's cool down. But I could not. I could not leave my partner's side. I was right there the entire time, just kind of following him, which isn't like me at all. I'm usually like, oh, I'll go down to the bear hang. I'll hang it. I'll throw the bear hang over the pole and hang all the food and help you find firewood. You go that way. I'll go this way.
But I could not do that. And it was so overwhelming to the point that I made him go to the bathroom with me in the privy because I was like, do not leave me alone. I cannot be alone right now. Which, thank God, great guy. Absolutely did it. No question. And, you know, we just were hanging out at that point. And this is the thing is that the sun goes down like three o'clock up there in that time.
So you do not have a lot of daylight. You got to get your firewood. Then you got to have your flashlights ready to go. So the sun kind of started setting and we decided to start a fire. So we started a fire after we ate dinner. We're just kind of hanging out there.
And this is funny because I really don't tell this a lot when I talk to my family and friends about this, because it just all felt like too much. But that first night we did have something strange happen to us, which I, You know, we were just kind of hanging out at the shelter. You know, you're not really talking.
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Chapter 4: What strange sounds did Annalise and her boyfriend hear at the campsite?
So my whole family at that point is just freaking out, you know, just like, what, you know, it, and it was very validating to me because I do believe in that, like family connection and things like that. You know, like if something's wrong with my sister, I like have that dream of her or something. And I know to, to text her and things. So that was really eyeopening to me. Definitely.
So when I got home, you know, and I had this discussion with my family and we all kind of discussed about these weird kind of connected experiences that we were having at that same time that day, I was like, okay, you know, not only is that weird, but it's validating because I do think that whatever just happened was of another realm almost, whether that's paranormal or extraterrestrial or,
You know, it felt like it felt like a wormhole had opened up or something. And we were just like about to get sucked through it. So I went on Facebook and I made a post and I was like, hey, I had this really weird experience with this strange sound thing. you know, while camping. And like, it wasn't, I just, I don't know what it was.
And it was very haunting and ended up getting some comments on it. And it was great because it did actually help me in researching different sounds. Like someone had sent the trumpets of the sky. been like, Oh, you must've heard trumpets of the sky. And it wasn't that someone sent me something called the Windsor hum.
Wasn't that I actually looked up the jet airplane records over New Hampshire and there was one that day and it was from Cape Cod to Connecticut. So completely, completely not even close to where I was, even if it was a jet. Um, You know, there's no possible way that it couldn't have been. It really could not have been a jet. I've seen jets.
I've been directly under them doing tricks at air shows and things like that. It's nothing that's... I've experienced that. This was something I've never experienced. That magnitude of sound was unreal. Unreal. Unreal. You know, all these like eerie sounds that people have kind of had experiences with.
And another person commented and was like, oh, it sounds like you were almost a missing 411 case. So I ended up finding all of these really strange, unexplainable cases that happen in national forests. And there's all these missing people that have no explanation on how they were missing, just disappeared in the woods, whether it was national forest, state forest, all these different things.
And that is when I really kind of realized that I don't know if I'll ever find an explanation for what happened to me, but I realized that these forests across the entire US and I'm sure other places in the world all have this very, very strange thing going on where, you know, unexplainable shit is just happening. It's like a, you know, a magnet for that type of thing.
And, you know, I think I realized whether, you know, it was paranormal or extraterrestrial, it really did sound like a ship of sorts just, you know, right above us, but there was nothing visible. That's the part that really gets me.
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