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Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend

John Mulaney Returns Once More

Mon, 31 Mar 2025

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John Mulaney feels litigious about being Conan O’Brien’s friend. John sits down with Conan once more to discuss his new Netflix talk show Everybody’s Live, getting in touch with old Hollywood at Sunset Gower Studios, backstage banter at the SNL 50th, and much more. Later, Conan justifies his portrait’s presence in a Colorado park office. For Conan videos, tour dates and more visit TeamCoco.com.Got a question for Conan? Call our voicemail: (669) 587-2847. Get access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link: https://siriusxm.com/conan.

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Chapter 1: What does John Mulaney think about his friendship with Conan?

00:03 - 00:15 John Mulaney

Hi, my name is John Mulaney. And I feel litigious. Nice. About being Conan O'Brien's friend, sir.

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00:19 - 00:24

Fall is here, hear the yell. Back to school, ring the bell.

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00:24 - 00:32

Brand new shoes, walkin' blues. Climb the fence, books and pens. I can tell that we are gonna be friends.

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00:38 - 00:46 Conan O'Brien

Hello and welcome to Conan O'Brien Needs a Friend. Sitting here with Sona Movsesian, of course, Matt Gourley. And what's going on, Sona? You have some announcements.

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Chapter 2: What is the significance of the 'Dab of the Decade' award?

00:46 - 00:52 Sona Movsesian

I want to just congratulate you because you got something called Dab of the Decade.

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00:53 - 00:54 Conan O'Brien

Dab of the Decade.

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00:54 - 01:02 Sona Movsesian

Yeah, you have been voted by the people as the top guest on Hot Ones in their entirety of the whole run.

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01:02 - 01:12 Conan O'Brien

Now, wait a minute. Explain this to me. They had like a series of people were up for. Like a bracket? There was a bracket. Oh, my God. Look at this picture. Oh, my God.

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00:00 - 00:00 Sona Movsesian

Look at that.

00:00 - 00:00 Conan O'Brien

I mean. Look at that.

00:00 - 00:00 Sona Movsesian

You were up against Ariana Grande in the last round. And there's a picture of the two of you.

00:00 - 00:00 Unidentified

Uh-huh.

00:00 - 00:00 Sona Movsesian

And her picture, she's stunning. She looks gorgeous and stunning and she's beautiful. And you, like right underneath her, you're this crazy person and there's milk just coming out of your mouth. A monster. A true monster. An absolute monster.

Chapter 3: What are Conan and John's thoughts on the Eagles documentary?

09:22 - 09:22 Unidentified

It was crazy.

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09:24 - 09:48 Conan O'Brien

Everybody's live. Your show makes me very happy. Thanks, man. And I really, I'm just delighted that you're doing it and kind of don't understand why nobody said, hey, I want to play with this format for a specific amount of time and really fuck around and play with it and then move on to some other stuff and then maybe come back to it.

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09:49 - 10:12 Conan O'Brien

There was a, in my day, kind of a get down into the galley and pull that oar. You know what I mean? An hour a day, and it really does change the tenor of everything. And here you guys are just having fun. And I'm not sure, I know you're gonna do, you had the previous season, which had a different name. That was Everybody's in LA, yeah.

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10:12 - 10:26 John Mulaney

Right. And we covered the city of LA. It was during the Netflix is a Joke Festival. Yes. So like every comedian was in town. Yeah. And it was a funny situation that we're all in the town of Los Angeles. This we've broadened out, you know, topic-wise and where we're filming some stuff.

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00:00 - 00:00 Conan O'Brien

And you have a very... Your monologue, I thought, was very funny, but you talk about... You had a focus group. Look at the name. Everybody's in L.A. And you said, a lot of people in the United States don't like Los Angeles. No, it's really...

00:00 - 00:00 John Mulaney

I was like, no, come on, people, it's not coastal. They say live from New York, it's Saturday night. I was like, people like knowing the data. No, people don't like Los Angeles. And then after the fires, I thought, now they might like it, feel bad for it at least. No.

00:00 - 00:00 Conan O'Brien

And you know what's interesting is that people- Pro-fire, the focus group. Yeah, yeah, yeah. May have started it. Yeah, may have started it. The fire is running for president next year as a Democrat. The thing that's shocking is if you drift around L.A. and get a little north, people in San Francisco hate L.A. Yeah. People in L.A. don't feel that way about San Francisco.

00:00 - 00:00 Conan O'Brien

I don't think they feel that way about any place. Yeah. People in L.A. are quite, oh, no, no. You know, I... Ask them about any place. Ask them about Boulder. They're like, oh, yeah, Boulder sounds great. I've never been there, but it sounds great.

00:00 - 00:00 John Mulaney

And they love every area right outside of L.A. Yes. Cerritos. Oh, Cerritos. It's great. People love Palos Verdes. Anything near it, we're pro. Yes. There's not even like suburban, you know.

Chapter 4: How does John Mulaney approach his new Netflix talk show?

19:37 - 20:04 Conan O'Brien

Right. Also, I got a little bit of nostalgia because you're coming from Sunset Gower Studios, which is where Greg Daniels and I started. That was my first, we got out of college. Summer after college, we're sending out, you know, trying to write for TV. We got crazy lucky and got a starting gig at a show called Not to Show the News that taped at Sunset Gower Studios. Nice.

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20:04 - 20:28 Conan O'Brien

That's still imprinted on my brain. I felt that we had gone to Saturn. That's how strange it was to go from Boston, Massachusetts, and I had been on a plane like twice, and I'm suddenly in Los Angeles expecting to see Eric Estrada, you know? Sure. You just keep thinking, where are the celebrities? This is where the celebrities are.

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20:28 - 20:36 Conan O'Brien

And you're walking around Hollywood and you're mostly seeing sex workers. And the walk of fame, Barbara Broccoli.

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20:36 - 20:36 John Mulaney

Oh.

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00:00 - 00:00 Conan O'Brien

I remember being stunned at how seedy. I misunderstood, and Greg, my partner Greg Daniels, did too. We confused Hollywood with, like, Beverly Hills. Yeah, sure. So I thought Hollywood was where all the stars lived, and that's where the mansions were. So... We got a place like on Koreatown. And then we were like, let's get spiffed up and go over to Hollywood.

00:00 - 00:00 Conan O'Brien

And we were walking around the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Nice. Which, of course, is your dodging vomit. And it's it's grim. It's very grim. And I remembered being.

00:00 - 00:00 John Mulaney

I mean, you could go buy a sword or a bong or something like that.

00:00 - 00:00 Conan O'Brien

You're right. I was too harsh.

00:00 - 00:00 John Mulaney

Sunset Gower is great because when you actually go to bigger studios in Los Angeles, there's such remote areas, other than Paramount, there's such remote, overwhelming, faceless, just all-consuming areas once you drive on the lot. Sunset Gower is like next to the Gower Gulch, which is like a Western-themed Rite Aid, and the Arby's sign that's sort of famous, which is no longer used.

Chapter 5: What are Conan's memories of Sunset Gower Studios?

32:05 - 32:06 Conan O'Brien

Like you're training a puppy.

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32:06 - 32:07 John Mulaney

Exactly.

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32:07 - 32:07 Conan O'Brien

No.

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32:08 - 32:29 John Mulaney

What about us looks like we want to move our bodies and dance? We're all tired and we want to speak lovingly but poorly of our contemporaries, co-workers, the show as a whole, and what the planning was like. Yes. And you, I remember the 40th, that, who's that guy? I didn't get to go to the 40th. That fucking Prince gets out.

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00:00 - 00:00 John Mulaney

And everyone talks about this like it's the greatest night in New York history. It stunk. They sounded like a wedding band. It was like Elvis Perkins, Paul McCartney, you know, maybe Ackroyd, all of them just playing at once loudly. And then Prince got up and we had to act like that was a big deal. And I'm just trying, I just was like, I just wanted to talk shit with Bobby Moynihan. Yeah.

00:00 - 00:00 John Mulaney

It was such a bummer. It's so not what this is about to me. Loud guitars. I had. I was really mad. And then when I saw them start to plug in at the 50th, I left. I said, I can't do everything.

00:00 - 00:00 Conan O'Brien

Okay.

00:00 - 00:00 John Mulaney

Well, here's the thing. I know how to make a good party. We would lower the music and we would all quietly say slightly negative things.

00:00 - 00:00 Conan O'Brien

Yeah, yeah. There were different levels at the plaza and I walked in and I decided I knew there was music and I didn't go towards the music. I stayed down. There was a bar. I ended up in the lobby where there were couches. Yeah. Just hung out there. I went past the lobby. There's a bar area and I'm standing at the bar area and I'd said hello to a couple of people.

Chapter 6: How did John Mulaney contribute to the SNL 50th anniversary?

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47:43 - 47:41 Conan O'Brien

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47:43 - 47:41 John Mulaney

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47:43 - 47:41 Sona Movsesian

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00:00 - 00:00 Conan O'Brien

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Chapter 7: What was Conan's encounter with Paul McCartney like?

49:46 - 49:46 Sona Movsesian

Yeah.

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49:47 - 49:49 John Mulaney

If you don't mind, check out one episode.

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49:49 - 50:01 Conan O'Brien

A lot of people don't have access to television. You know that. Oh, right. Shame me for the 1%. Whatever, you're in a bubble, so yeah. Yeah, I guess. Everyone go out and buy a new television.

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50:01 - 50:04 John Mulaney

Let me tell you something. When I see you on the street in New York, I'm not shaking your hand.

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00:00 - 00:00 Conan O'Brien

You don't like the way I've comported myself.

00:00 - 00:00 John Mulaney

Wait, this is your lawsuit.

00:00 - 00:00 Conan O'Brien

Here you guys go. Hey, here we go. No, that's not it. No, I think we need to co-own.

00:00 - 00:00 John Mulaney

It can't be defamation. It needs to be over the rights to something.

00:00 - 00:00 Conan O'Brien

Yes, yes. Yeah.

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