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Betrayal: Season 4

S4: EP 1 — One of the Good Ones

Thu, 22 May 2025

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Karoline built her life around her husband's career as a Colorado Springs police officer. The family was proud of his service, until they learned that the only person he was serving was himself.   If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [email protected] and follow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod. To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com.  You can listen new episodes of Betrayal Season 4 completely ad-free and 1 week early with an iHeart True Crime+ subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What role does family play in Caroline's narrative?

3025.476 - 3031.598 Joel's Son

I took my best friend from home, and then my family, family friends, we all went down to Mexico.

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3032.558 - 3036.4 Andrea Gunning

Joel and Caroline were devising a plan of their own for their anniversary.

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3038.12 - 3050.198 Caroline

Joel and I had talked about renewing our vows, and he suggested we keep it a surprise. He said, let's not tell anyone. Let's, you know, get everyone together somehow on the beach.

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3051.059 - 3080.982 Nicole

It was a surprise when I saw my mom in that long dress. I remember like tearing up because when I was growing up, I never, ever saw my dad cry. And so he started like tearing up and, you know, his voice cracking a little bit when he was crying. Just talking about how the first time he proposed to my mom, it wasn't the best proposal.

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3082.123 - 3101.744 Nicole

And so this was a redo, he said, and he like got on one knee and gave my mom a new engagement ring. And so... I started tearing up because I never saw my dad kind of express his emotions like that.

3102.805 - 3118.24 Andrea Gunning

Caroline shared some photos with me. She looks stunning in a long white dress with a low back. In one shot, her son walks beside her on the beach. And her daughter holds flowers. The kids look so proud of their parents.

3119.08 - 3126.063 Nicole

She did look like a bride, so it was cool to see her all dolled up.

3127.223 - 3128.984 Andrea Gunning

Their son can still picture it.

3129.244 - 3137.547 Joel's Son

It was a proud moment for me because I walked my mom down the quote-unquote aisle, more like a sidewalk to the beach.

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