(0:00) Chamath and Friedberg describe their adventures in DC and welcome Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent! (2:12) Scott's background, what drew him to equities, the role of macro investors (7:22) The legendary trade that broke the Bank of England in 1992, and how it relates to Main Street vs Wall Street today (21:30) Scott explains the Trump Administration's economic strategy (32:45) How this administration plans to de-regulate the economy, Fed relationship, re-financing debt (42:06) DOGE, DC grifts, shakeup at the IRS (50:51) Re-engineering social security through the US SWF, how energy factors in (1:00:02) Surprises, fixing affordability, thoughts on President Trump Thanks to our partners for making this happen: Gemini: https://www.gemini.com/allin Hims: https://www.hims.com | https://www.forhers.com iTrustCapital (use code allin): https://www.itrustcapital.com/allin Follow Secretary Bessent: https://x.com/SecScottBessent Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect
Chapter 1: What was the White House experience like for Chamath and Friedberg?
Okay, we are here in Washington, D.C., in front of the White House, having spent the afternoon with our friend David Sachs, our friend Elon Musk, and others. We are here to learn about the debt, the deficit, what's going on in D.C., and we have an incredible interview lined up with Scott Besant, Treasury Secretary of the United States. It was amazing.
And it's been an amazing afternoon, and we're really looking forward to it. It was amazing. Well, this is the pre, the intro to the video.
It will be amazing. It's not the pre. Let's just, it's the post. What the fuck? We're going to pretend it's the pre. It was amazing.
It will be incredible. It was incredible. But how cool is the White House? And here's a bell. Okay. I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure the bell.
I cannot even describe to you the day we had running around.
It's incredible. Running around room to room in the White House.
One of the best days of my life.
It was one of the best days of my life.
It was incredible. Incredible.
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Chapter 2: How did Scott Bessent's early career shape his investment philosophy?
But I know you all talk about incentives a lot. Back to incentives. What's a regulator's incentive just to keep tightening the corset? They don't care about growth. They don't care about the common sense.
Turn off every risk. It's their job. If you had to create a metric then to say, okay, here's how we're going to measure this undoing of the financial corset, is it sort of the lending velocity by private lenders so that the private re-leveraging can occur? Is that a good way to think about that?
Or is rates a way to think about it?
Well, it doesn't have to be rates, but if we do all the things I was just talking about, if we deregulate, if we have cheap energy, if we shed excess labor from the government, if we get government spending down, then rates, inflation should come down, rates should come down. But on the question of how are we going to measure it, I don't have any problem with private credit.
I actually think it's exciting. It's dynamic.
It meets the business where it is.
And the strength of the US financial system is the depth and now the breadth. But you could see that what's happened that so much lending is being pushed outside the regulated banking system, that tells you it's over-regulated. Right, yeah. So now, once we, so one test will be, how has bank lending, especially small regional, small banks, community banks, that come and go, and these small banks,
that small banks and community banks, they're 70% of ag loans, they're 40% of small business loans. And that's one of the reasons Main Street's been stifled.
So can you talk about then how you will work with the Fed in sort of the change of all of this financial machinery? Or do you need to?
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