(0:00) Welcoming Sam Altman to the show! (2:28) What's next for OpenAI: GPT-5, open-source, reasoning, what an AI-powered iPhone competitor could look like, and more (21:56) How advanced agents will change the way we interface with apps (33:01) Fair use, creator rights, why OpenAI has stayed away from the music industry (42:02) AI regulation, UBI in a post-AI world (52:23) Sam breaks down how he was fired and re-hired, why he has no equity, dealmaking on behalf of OpenAI, and how he organizes the company (1:05:33) Post-interview recap (1:10:38) All-In Summit announcements, college protests (1:19:06) Signs of innovation dying at Apple: iPad ad, Buffett sells 100M+ shares, what's next? (1:29:41) Google unveils AlphaFold 3.0 Follow Sam: https://twitter.com/sama Follow the besties: https://twitter.com/chamath https://twitter.com/Jason https://twitter.com/DavidSacks https://twitter.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://twitter.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@all_in_tok Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://twitter.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://twitter.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://twitter.com/EconomyApp/status/1622029832099082241 https://sacra.com/c/openai https://twitter.com/tim_cook/status/1787864325258162239 https://openai.com/index/introducing-the-model-spec https://twitter.com/SabriSun_Miller/status/1788298123434938738 https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/bill-of-rights-transcript https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1788312545754825091 https://www.inc.com/bill-murphy-jr/warren-buffett-just-sold-more-than-100-million-shares-of-apple-reason-why-is-eye-opening.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snbTCWL6rxo https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20240506PD216/apple-ev-startup-genai.html https://www.theonion.com/fuck-everything-were-doing-five-blades-1819584036 https://blog.google/technology/ai/google-deepmind-isomorphic-alphafold-3-ai-model
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I first met our next guest, Sam Altman, almost 20 years ago when he was working on a local mobile app called Looped. We were both backed by Sequoia Capital. And in fact, we were both in the first class of Sequoia Scouts. He did investment in a little unknown fintech company called Stripe. I did Uber. And in that tiny experimental fund- You did Uber?
I've never heard that before. Yeah, I think so. It's possible. You've got it starting already.
You should write a book, Jacob. Maybe.
Maybe.
Rain Man, David Sack.
And it said, we open sourced it to the fans and they've just gone crazy with it. Love you guys. Queen of Kinwa.
That tiny experimental fund that Sam and I were part of as scouts is Sequoia's highest multiple returning fund. A couple of low-digit millions turned into over 200 million, I'm told. Really? Yeah, that's what I was told by Ruloff, yeah. And he did a stint at Y Combinator, where he was president from 2014 to 2019.
In 2016, he co-founded OpenAI with the goal of ensuring that artificial general intelligence benefits all of humanity. In 2019, he left YC to join OpenAI full-time as CEO. Things got really interesting on November 30th of 2022. That's the day OpenAI launched ChatGPT. In January 2023, Microsoft invested $10 billion. In November 2023, Over a crazy five-day span, Sam was fired from OpenAI.
Everybody was going to go work at Microsoft. A bunch of heart emojis went viral on X slash Twitter, and people started speculating that the team had reached artificial general intelligence. The world was going to end, and suddenly... A couple days later, he was back to being the CEO of OpenAI. In February, Sam was reportedly looking to raise $7 trillion for an AI chip project.
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