In conversation with Mark Cuban
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All right, everybody, welcome to the number one podcast in the world. Here we are on the All In podcast. We have a fifth bestie with us today. Joining David Freiberg, Chamath Paihapatiya, David Sachs, and myself is the one and the only Mark Cuban. How you doing, buddy?
What's up, guys? I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on. Of course, of course. Good to have you here. Thank you. I've been practicing my virtue signaling, so I'm ready.
You're ready to go. All right. Let's go. I think we're going to have twice the virtue signaling as normal in this episode.
Stop it. Double the virtue signal. I promise you I don't virtue signal. I'll say f*** you to anybody.
You have gotten very vocal about politics during this cycle. And you seem to be, I don't know if it's official, you know, speaking on behalf of the Kamala ticket. So why are you this active? What is the reason that you've decided to get this active during this election?
Because I'm proud to be an American. Okay. That's exactly why. I mean, you know, we all make choices and think what's best for the country and show our patriotism in different ways. And, you know, I'm not a Democrat. I'm not a Republican. I'm an independent through and through. Oh, my God. Like J. Cal. He's an independent, too.
Why is it that all the Democrats are afraid to call themselves Democrats?
Well, look, I've said this many, many times. If it wasn't Donald Trump running, if it was a non-MAGA candidate, particularly if it was Joe Biden still, I'd vote Republican. I've voted Republican before. If it was a non-MAGA candidate versus Kamala Harris, it would be, you know, let's look at the policies. Let's look at the character of the people involved and let's make a decision. It's just Donald Trump is not a Republican. Republicans are Donald Trump. You know, the Republican Party is now the family business for Donald Trump. And to me, I just think Kamala Harris is a better choice for the country. Thank you.
On a percentage basis, how often have you voted just a level set, Democrat versus Republican, would you say, out of 10 elections?
Presidential, probably. I voted for George W. twice. Then I voted for Obama twice. And then I voted for Clinton and Biden. But before that, I voted for Ross Perot Jr. My first vote was for a guy named something, John Anderson. So, I mean, I literally worked on Ross Perot Jr. 's campaign way back when.
Tell us about that. That's fascinating. He got 19% of the vote as an independent candidate.
Yeah, I was living out in LA and this was 92. And this is when computers were relatively new. I sold my company and I was taking acting classes and just living by Manhattan Beach and just loving life. And, you know, being from Texas, I knew people there and they were like, look, we need somebody who understands PCs and computers and software. Can you help us? And I was like, definitely. I mean, I wasn't to the point where I was involved in his decisions, but I actually had met him. My first company was a company called Micro Solutions, where we did systems integrations, local and wide area network. I wrote software for single and multi-user app, wide area network apps. And we literally helped Perot Systems get into local and wide area networking.
And so, one of my favorite stories from back then is, I'm terrified, I'm a 26 year old kid, I'm in Dallas. I'm going into pro systems. I get to meet Ross Perot Sr., the man, right? And I'm walking through and he's got the original, the model for the, no, he had the original Magna Carta, one of like the 13 Magna Cartas. And he had the original model for the Iwo Jima statue, right? With the flag up and everything. And I'm just terrified. I'm going to trip and just wipe out American history. And I walk up to him and I said, hi, Mr. Cuban, I'm Ross Perot Sr.
I mean, I reversed that.
Yeah, you know, I was so nervous. And he like made fun of it and, you know, got to be friends and did a lot of business, helped those guys a lot. I made them a lot of money. They made me a lot of money.
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