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TV Bailiff Spivey on Trial

Mon, 24 Mar

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A TV bailiff accused of murdering his wife is determined to prove his innocence.  Listen to his first television interview.  Natalie Morales reports. This "48 Hours" episode last aired on 01/11/2025. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What triggered the emergency call?

10.718 - 23.305 Renard Spivey

What is your emergency? A shot fired. What is your name? My name is Renard Spivey. Yeah, my wife had an argument. I accidentally shot her. You accidentally shot her? Yeah.

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24.445 - 27.127 911 Operator

Houston, please. Where you at, ma'am?

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31.269 - 31.549 Renard Spivey

Sir?

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31.849 - 34.571 911 Operator

Yeah. I'm back here. All right, where's the weapon?

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34.971 - 35.291 Renard Spivey

Right here.

36.152 - 40.529 911 Operator

Stay away from it. I don't want to see it in your hand, you understand? Where she at?

40.649 - 45.552 Renard Spivey

On the floor? Yeah. OK. His leg. All right. Shot in the leg.

45.632 - 45.752 911 Operator

OK.

46.192 - 50.575 Renard Spivey

We was arguing, tussling with the gun. And we had been arguing all day.

Chapter 2: Who is Renard Spivey and what is his background?

55.839 - 81.622 Narrator

Renard Spivey was a longtime deputy sheriff. And the deceased was his wife, Pat or Patricia Spivey. Spivey, who also worked for a time as a TV judge show bailiff, is now charged with his wife's murder. There was a lot of publicity because he had been on a very popular reality TV show, Justice for All with Christina Perez.

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82.383 - 84.963 Renard Spivey

All rise. Court is now in session.

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85.703 - 91.125 Petrina Marshall

He was the perfect person in front of everybody else. I think he thought the camera was always on.

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92.779 - 100.481 Narrator

When it comes to how your mom died, do you think it was accidental? No. It just, it didn't make sense. It didn't line up.

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101.501 - 123.133 Prosecutor

The security cameras, how important were the security cameras and the evidence? I think they were very important. On the surveillance, you clearly hear the three gunshots. One. Two, three. The prosecution's theory is that he shot her and then shot himself to cover it up.

124.154 - 127.238 Petrina Marshall

You don't accidentally shoot someone more than once.

127.959 - 134.186 Prosecutor

Was the autopsy consistent with an accidental shooting? Well, ultimately, I guess that's the million dollar question.

135.049 - 136.73 Narrator

whose finger was on the trigger.

137.13 - 151.88 Prosecutor

Who was the aggressor? She was threatening him with a gun. If he is the aggressor, then this is a murder. If she is the aggressor, this was either self-defense or an accident. This is the 9-millimeter gun.

Chapter 3: What evidence is there against Renard Spivey?

824.095 - 830.377 Renard Spivey

Oh, she loved it. She was excited. And as a matter of fact, I took her to a couple of the Emmys.

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830.977 - 839.979 Narrator

Patricia's childhood friend, Ezra Washington, had a small part as an extra on that show and remembered meeting Renard when Patricia and Renard got together.

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840.498 - 843.479 Natalie Morales

You recognized him right away from his time.

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843.499 - 852.1 Narrator

Renard and Ezra became close friends. But over time, even before Patricia married Renard, Ezra says Renard was controlling with her.

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853.22 - 866.563 Ezra Washington

They were at Papa Doe's Friday night. You know, she'd have a few, and he told her, don't drink no more. And she said, why? He was like, because I said so. And she dumped him.

867.861 - 877.344 Narrator

The couple got back together, but their problems hardly went away, says Ezra, and eventually impacted Patricia's relationship with her cousin, Sybil.

877.944 - 892.288 Ezra Washington

He didn't like Sybil at all. He literally just hated her. She allowed Pat to have freedom. They would go on this cruise every year, and they'd party, have fun, and they'd meet people from other parts of the country.

893.109 - 923.139 Sybil Shepherd

He definitely felt intimidated by the relationship that we had. sybil says after the couple got married patricia distanced herself it was more so trying to just put that wedge between the two of us and it worked i just backed off from it i didn't want to come between somebody and their marriage it almost seemed like he was jealous of her relationships that he already knew she had i mean

924.195 - 933.024 Narrator

Petrina says her mom and Renard had no business being married. She says their relationship became strained once they moved into their new house.

Chapter 4: How did Renard Spivey defend himself against the accusations?

1466.519 - 1470.66 Natalie Morales

He's on the phone with 911, holding the towel on his leg.

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1472.34 - 1476.921 Prosecutor

Typically, when you're performing CPR, you don't take breaks.

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1478.308 - 1484.172 Narrator

Renard says he went to unlock the garage door to make sure medics could get to his wife as soon as possible.

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1485.173 - 1512.342 Renard Spivey

I came right back and continued the chest compressions. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. He loved her. Happy anniversary to you too, dear.

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1513.283 - 1519.356 Renee Spivey Frazier

Happy anniversary to you. He really loved her.

1520.737 - 1524.499 Narrator

Renard's twin sister is not surprised her brother was emotional.

1525.259 - 1530.982 Renee Spivey Frazier

She lost her life and he still, he was hurting.

1534.244 - 1548.478 Narrator

But Patricia's close friend Ezra Washington says just two days before Patricia died, she told him she was fed up with Renard's controlling ways and his suspected steroid use, which she blamed for the lack of intimacy in their relationship.

1549.459 - 1555.926 Ezra Washington

She said, you know what? She said, I'm done. She said, I'm leaving.

Chapter 5: What was the relationship like between Renard and Patricia?

2007.473 - 2008.714 Renard Spivey

No, ma'am, not at all.

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2010.575 - 2032.691 Narrator

DeGaran says there is no evidence to contradict that. He says that a crime scene technician acknowledged at trial that the trigger was never separately swabbed for DNA. She said, well, I was afraid that the gun would go off again. Now that tells you how dangerous that gun was. But Petrina says her mom was not the type of person who would pull a gun on anyone.

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2033.251 - 2036.854 Petrina Marshall

My mom is not violent like that. It didn't make sense to me.

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2038.235 - 2043.04 Narrator

Instead, Petrina believes her mom was in the closet that night because she was packing.

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2044.161 - 2046.523 Petrina Marshall

I think she was trying to leave that night.

2049.79 - 2057.613 Narrator

Prosecutors had Ezra Washington tell the jury about those phone conversations with Renard, where Renard talked about his frustrations.

2058.693 - 2065.516 Ezra Washington

I just want to give him the truth. Everything that came out of his mouth that I know.

2066.291 - 2080.684 Narrator

But the prosecutors ran into a problem. They say Ezra told them he spoke to Renard using apps on his phone, and they were unable to find records of those calls. DeGarren says he doesn't believe those conversations ever took place.

2081.772 - 2089.296 Natalie Morales

Are you saying Ezra Washington, then, when he testified because he was a key witness for the prosecution, was he lying when he talked about those phone calls?

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