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A Tragic Journey

Wed, 18 Dec 2024

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On December 20, 1980, teenage sweethearts Sabrina Gonsalves and John Riggins were supposed to attend a birthday party but never arrived. 36 hours later their bodies were found by police in a California ravine. The case went unsolved. Then in 2002, using advanced DNA technology, police were able to match samples stored in a FBI database to a convicted rapist. “48 Hours" correspondent Troy Roberts reports. This classic "48 Hours" episode last aired on 5/17/2014. Watch all-new episodes of “48 Hours” on Saturdays, and stream on demand on Paramount+.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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122.935 - 144.138 Andrea Gonsalves Rosenstein

It can happen to anyone. Any one of our children, any one of our family. A good, wonderful, kind person that you love could suddenly disappear. That you could never see them again. You can never talk about that person without everyone in the room thinking, oh, she's the one who was murdered.

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152.452 - 164.856 Crime Scene Investigator

This will be homicide case number 95336. The trees that can be seen in the distance is the area of the ravine where the bodies have been located.

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167.217 - 202.287 Carol Daly

This was a brutal, brutal slaying. My name is Carol Daly, and back in 1980, I was assigned as a detective in the homicide unit with Sacramento County Sheriff's Department. Sabrina Gonsalves and John Riggins were college co-eds, 18 years old. They were just bright, lovely, young couple, carefree, and not a worry in the world. The disappearance was at Christmas time, 1980.

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203.007 - 207.248 Carol Daly

They were headed to a birthday party for Sabrina's sister, Andrea.

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208.385 - 229.427 Andrea Gonsalves Rosenstein

Sabrina and John left the condo and were on their way, but they never showed. And I started thinking what could possibly have gone wrong. First, we were told they found the van. And I ran to a phone to call my dad. And he said, Andrea, they think they have found the bodies.

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231.201 - 262.319 Carol Daly

It was sickening, the horrificness of what we were seeing and what they must have gone through. They had duct taped around their eyes and around their mouth. Looking at them, we knew their throats had been cut. And they were dumped, just like trash. Whoever was responsible for that was a cold-hearted animal, thoughtless, senseless in taking a life just for pleasure.

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263.819 - 288.034 Carol Daly

Anybody that had done such a horrific crime, somebody was going to know who did it, and somebody was going to send in a tip. And I really thought the case was going to be solved within weeks. And as the case went on, and on and on. I think we had lost hope.

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288.474 - 298.203 Andrea Gonsalves Rosenstein

32 years they have been dead. How many people, how many years, how much effort does it take to put one horrible person away for life?

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299.644 - 310.133 Carol Daly

32 years later, it turns out there was a critical piece of evidence in the van that would end up solving the case. It was Sabrina's birthday present to Andrea.

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311.511 - 315.355 Andrea Gonsalves Rosenstein

All this time we've been waiting. All this time. The answer was there.

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316.396 - 356.24 Troy Roberts

I'm Troy Roberts. The Sweetheart Murders. The wheels of justice turn slowly, but I've never covered a story quite like this. It's hard to imagine that it would take more than three decades to find the killer and bring him to trial.

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358.041 - 364.684 Court Clerk

And that said defendant did unlawfully and with malice aforethought murder Sabrina Marie Gonzales.

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364.704 - 371.168 George Gonsalves

32 years. Unbelievable. That's why I won it over with. I want to have a little peace before I die.

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372.037 - 373.739 Judge Michael Sweet

Okay, I think we're ready to commence.

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373.759 - 379.363 Troy Roberts

Sabrina Gonzalez's mother, Kim, and her father, George, weren't sure they'd live to see the day.

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379.704 - 387.931 George Gonsalves

It's a scab on your heart, and it just keeps getting pulled off, and you bleed again and again and again, you know, and you just don't know how much you can keep going.

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390.649 - 400.437 Andrea Gonsalves Rosenstein

It is so much worse when someone is killed instead of dying a natural death. But it is also worse to have a murder unsolved.

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400.838 - 409.345 Troy Roberts

Over the decades, Andrea Gonzalez Rosenstein has remained devoted to keeping her baby sister's memory alive. Tell me about Sabrina.

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410.006 - 423.175 Andrea Gonsalves Rosenstein

She loved kids. She loved being with kids, working with kids. She loved medicine. She wanted to be a physical therapist. And she was such a good person and so innocent and so sweet and so wonderful.

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424.716 - 431.741 Troy Roberts

Andrea named her firstborn Sabrina, and after having her third child, she decided to adopt three more.

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432.602 - 458.535 Andrea Gonsalves Rosenstein

She wanted to have six kids, and I did it for her with the thought that I'm having the family she didn't get to have. I also wanted to keep horses in my life and introduce them to my children and let them know that this is something that I did with Sabrina with great joy and fun. She's still with us. I feel like her spirit is still with us.

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465.327 - 482.36 Troy Roberts

Back in the summer of 1980, Andrea was already attending the University of California at Davis when her sister moved in with her. Sabrina was excited to begin her own college career. That summer, Sabrina met John Riggins while working for the town's recreation department.

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483.021 - 493.809 Andrea Gonsalves Rosenstein

He was really her first boyfriend, and she fell in love with him. John was so much fun. He was funny and lighthearted, and he loved sports. They were perfect together.

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494.594 - 506.564 Troy Roberts

John had been a popular high school athlete in Davis, but he stood out for another reason as well. When he was much younger, he had this mop of red hair that got a lot of attention.

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506.844 - 519.214 Kate Riggins

Even as a toddler, people came up and touched his head all the time. And it was almost like bringing good luck or something. If there was a sports photographer, John's picture was in there.

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520.765 - 535.528 Troy Roberts

Kate and Dr. Richard Riggins, an orthopedic surgeon, were proud of their son. John was considering following in his father's footsteps. Do you ever think about what kind of man your son would have become? He would have been 51 years old now.

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536.069 - 554.177 Dr. Richard Riggins

Since he was murdered, I haven't given much thought to what he would have been as an adult. I just always left him there as a freshman at UC Davis. He's still been 18 years old. and never really pushed it beyond that.

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556.298 - 567.784 Troy Roberts

The night of December 20th, 1980, Sabrina and John were expected at that surprise party for Andrea's 22nd birthday. But they never showed and never called.

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568.624 - 575.488 Andrea Gonsalves Rosenstein

First thing in the morning, it was like 6 o'clock in the morning, and then I knew something really bad had happened because she would have never not come home.

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576.308 - 577.129 Troy Roberts

It was out of character.

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577.822 - 582.705 Andrea Gonsalves Rosenstein

Oh, my God. I knew where she was all the time. She knew where I was all the time. We didn't do that.

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583.966 - 586.727 Troy Roberts

When you realized he hadn't come home, what was going through your mind?

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587.087 - 590.769 Kate Riggins

It was so foggy that night. You could not see anything.

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591.71 - 607.459 Dr. Richard Riggins

And we just got out and drove in increasing circles, looking in the ditches and looking for some evidence of an auto accident. And the possibility that they'd been kidnapped and murdered was not even considered. I mean, we didn't want to consider that.

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609.983 - 621.367 Troy Roberts

Sabrina and John had been missing for 36 hours when police found the Riggins family van abandoned about 30 miles east of Davis in Sacramento County. Former detective Carol Daly.

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621.807 - 630.59 Carol Daly

There was nothing inside the van to indicate that something horrible had happened at that point. We were hoping to find them alive.

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633.51 - 642.237 Troy Roberts

But a few hours later, Detective Daley received the call that the bodies had been found just under a mile away, discarded in that ravine.

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642.957 - 649.943 Crime Scene Investigator

There are areas of blood on the leaves and ground in between signs number three and five.

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654.426 - 665.199 Carol Daly

It was so traumatic to see them and their bodies disposed of the way that they were. I've just never been able to forget it.

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665.879 - 674.503 Troy Roberts

There were signs that Sabrina had been sexually assaulted. John had a head injury suggesting he fought to protect her. Eighteen, they're just children.

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674.763 - 678.144 Carol Daly

How are the parents going to be able to handle all this?

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679.945 - 683.806 Troy Roberts

I understand that you wake up in the middle of the night thinking of your son.

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685.027 - 691.85 Kate Riggins

He comes into our thoughts and like a nightmare, a small nightmare most nights.

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695.114 - 707.497 Dr. Richard Riggins

I can't see ever getting rid of that haunting figures that I see every now and then. There are bodies there in the ditch. That's never gonna go away.

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712.338 - 726.056 Troy Roberts

The case became known as the Sweetheart Murders. Investigators from two counties mobilized to hunt down this sadistic killer, but they had no idea just how difficult that would be.

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And now as a community of people who shared in John and Sabrina's lives.

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803.136 - 811.964 Troy Roberts

As the town of Davis said goodbye to the two sweethearts, their chilling murders had police fearing a serial killer could be on the loose.

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812.965 - 818.671 Investigator Ron Garverick

When you cut somebody's throat with a knife, you either have to be pretty desperate or you have to be pretty cold-blooded, I would say.

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819.594 - 823.678 Troy Roberts

Investigator Ron Garverick is with the Sacramento District Attorney's Office.

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824.038 - 832.165 Investigator Ron Garverick

The suspect did some planning. He came there with a sharp knife or some other weapon. He brought some tape with him.

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834.286 - 841.833 Crime Scene Investigator

The videotaping is at sign number three, which indicates a large area of blood.

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843.291 - 850.256 Troy Roberts

Police received hundreds of tips. They even released this composite sketch of a suspicious man spotted in the area.

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850.496 - 856.84 Crime Scene Investigator

The officer is standing at the side of the road at the area where the bodies are located, just over the edge.

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856.9 - 863.665 Troy Roberts

This is the kind of rough brush that the bodies were found in? Yeah. It's just by luck that the officers found the bodies, right?

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864.249 - 878.055 Investigator Ron Garverick

Yeah, because the roadway was at one elevation and the ravine was probably, you know, eight to ten feet down. And looking straight across, you wouldn't see it. So somebody had to be somewhat familiar with the area.

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880.136 - 888.279 Troy Roberts

But the investigation went nowhere and the trail went cold. Year after year, the lack of answers only added to the family's pain.

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889.48 - 914.214 George Gonsalves

I despaired that we would never find the person that killed him. I would say the first year was really bad, really devastating. I think for five years, I really was fragile. That's the best way to put it, very fragile.

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915.956 - 924.423 Troy Roberts

Six years passed, and then a tip led police to revisit another double murder that happened around the same time to see if there was any connection.

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924.683 - 935.712 News Anchor

The body of 22-year-old Craig Miller was found near Bass Lake in El Dorado County, shot three times in the head. His girlfriend, Mary Beth Sowers, is still missing tonight and feared dead by lawmen.

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936.113 - 965.697 Troy Roberts

Like John and Sabrina, this college couple was abducted from a public place, killed execution style, and then dumped around the Sacramento area. But in this case, police quickly made an arrest and got a conviction. The killer was this man, Gerald Gallego, a violent sexual predator. But on the night John and Sabrina were killed, he had an airtight alibi. He was already in jail.

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966.278 - 978.749 Troy Roberts

And that's why police, looking at the sweetheart's case years later, arrived at an unusual theory that John and Sabrina's murder was a copycat crime committed by Gallego's friends to try and clear him.

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979.229 - 991.497 Investigator Ron Garverick

Well, then it couldn't be Gerald that's the murderer because of the fact that this killer's still out there. Hundreds, if not thousands of hours went in to prove that theory, and arrests were made behind it.

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991.777 - 994.76 Nadine Bailey

Davis police issued murder arrest warrants.

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995 - 1018.949 Troy Roberts

In 1989, nine years after the Sweetheart murders, police arrested David Hunt, Gallego's half-brother, who also had a criminal past. Believing he had help, they rounded up Hunt's wife, Sue Ellen, and his partners in crime, Richard Thompson and Doug Lehner. They became known as the Hunt Group. All four were charged with the murders of John and Sabrina.

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1019.229 - 1023.071 Doug Lehner

I'm so angry for being accused of something like that.

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1024.071 - 1037.098 Troy Roberts

Better let that anger go, brother. David Hunt and Doug Lehner maintain their innocence to this day. Did you kill Sabrina and John? No. Did your brother mastermind these killings? No.

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1038.778 - 1041.38 David Hunt

By this time, my brother was dead to me.

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1042.438 - 1053.147 Troy Roberts

Both men admit they were drug addicts and thieves, but insist they would never commit murder. Both of you were described as sophisticated, savvy desperados.

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1054.268 - 1055.729 David Hunt

Well, I wouldn't go that far.

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1055.749 - 1062.074 Doug Lehner

But dumb old criminal is what I was, doing dumb old criminal things.

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1062.595 - 1076.797 Troy Roberts

Those dumb things Lehner did included stealing bed sheets from hotels. But this time, even with no physical evidence, he and the other members of the Hunk Group were facing the death penalty. It's ludicrous.

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1079.217 - 1080.037 Doug Lehner

Think about it.

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1080.997 - 1084.458 Troy Roberts

So this wasn't designed to free Gerald? Absolutely not.

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1084.478 - 1085.738 Doug Lehner

You know what I have to say about Gerald?

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1088.419 - 1089.259 David Hunt

I feel the same way.

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1090.819 - 1114.481 Troy Roberts

On the eve of the Hunk Group's trial, there was a stunning development. And it involved that birthday gift Sabrina had intended to give her sister Andrea, a blanket. Apparently, the killer had unwrapped it and left semen stains that went unnoticed for years. Those stains could now be tested for DNA, a forensic tool that didn't exist at the time of the murders.

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1115.021 - 1119.464 Troy Roberts

Police asked for blood samples from the accused. What did your attorney advise you to do?

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1119.664 - 1136.99 David Hunt

They came to me, actually. He told me that the bottom line is, if you did this... or have knowledge of it, don't let him do this. Why? Because it'll send you to death row. Now, my response was very simple. Let's get it done. How soon?

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1138.391 - 1141.733 Troy Roberts

Lehner, too, was certain the DNA would prove his innocence.

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1142.213 - 1153.06 Doug Lehner

I ran down the hall tap dancing. I was so ecstatic. No, the case is over now. We got him. Because the whole thing was a setup to begin with. Now they couldn't get away with it.

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1154.321 - 1164.445 Troy Roberts

And as they predicted, the DNA on the blanket did not match any of the men in the Hunk group. So in January 1993, all the charges were dropped.

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1164.725 - 1168.946 David Hunt

The people are removed for dismissal based on insufficiency of evidence.

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1169.507 - 1174.028 Troy Roberts

By then, David Hunt and his co-defendants had spent three years in jail.

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1174.308 - 1176.129 News Reporter

Doug Lehner is a free man today.

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1176.269 - 1181.571 Doug Lehner

They framed me and almost got away with it. I could be going to the gas chamber today, and that's an outrage!

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1183.16 - 1191.611 Dr. Richard Riggins

Investigators were back to square one. I thought it was over with. I was doing my best to get it buried and to get on with my life.

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1193.093 - 1200.002 Andrea Gonsalves Rosenstein

To not know who did it and why is something you never stop thinking about. Is the person out there killing other people?

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1215.163 - 1225.825 Troy Roberts

After their son John was murdered... Oh, it's so pretty. Dr. Richard Riggins and his wife Kate still had two younger children to raise, son Robert and daughter Carrie.

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1229.266 - 1244.669 Dr. Richard Riggins

Why did you move from Davis? I couldn't stand all the memories. And when you went to the hospital to go to work, you passed the morgue every day. And that was just too much for me.

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1245.731 - 1268.655 Troy Roberts

The lack of an arrest made it even harder. But by 2002, DNA science had advanced even more. The State Crime Lab was now routinely comparing DNA from cold cases to that of convicted criminals stored in a new database. When they uploaded the DNA from those semen stains on the blanket, incredibly, there was a hit.

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1269.236 - 1281.08 Investigator Ron Garverick

The DNA match had been found. Scientists called it a one in 240 trillion match. It belonged to a suspect who is currently in prison up in the state of Washington.

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1282.081 - 1292.885 Troy Roberts

The suspect's name was Richard Hirshfield. Local investigators had never heard of him, but they soon learned he had a very dark past. Who is Richard Hirshfield?

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1293.305 - 1296.847 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

Richard Hirshfield is a serial sexual predator.

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1297.881 - 1299.642 Troy Roberts

Prosecutor Dawn Bladet.

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1300.242 - 1312.069 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

He has victimized children and adults throughout his lifetime. Richard Joseph Hirshfield. I just think he is a vile human being, and he is the worst of the worst.

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1313.67 - 1325.997 Troy Roberts

At the time of the DNA hit, then 53-year-old Hirshfield was in prison for molesting two little girls. Many years earlier, in 1975, he had been convicted of rape in Northern California.

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1326.596 - 1329.337 Marge

We're lucky to be alive, really.

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1330.658 - 1339.643 Troy Roberts

In 2006, 48 Hours spoke to his California victims, two sisters, Marge and Michelle, who didn't want their last names used.

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1340.363 - 1346.466 Marge

He had the gun. It had a silencer on it. No one would have heard.

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1347.187 - 1353.297 Troy Roberts

They were 22 and 16 at the time he entered their apartment, demanding money. when they told him they had none.

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1353.578 - 1356.939 Court Clerk

He was mad. All right then, who wants to be raped?

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1357.939 - 1367.502 Marge

And then my sister offered herself instead of me. Anybody in my position would have done the same thing. She was my little sister.

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1367.522 - 1370.503 Troy Roberts

What are you thinking about right now?

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1375.744 - 1378.585 Marge

How it affected my life and made me fearful.

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1381.328 - 1387.094 Troy Roberts

Hirschfeld served only five years in prison for that crime. He was paroled in July 1980.

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1387.654 - 1395.141 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

He was able to convince people in the corrections field that he was not a danger.

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1396.503 - 1399.706 Troy Roberts

Five months later, John and Sabrina were murdered.

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1400.427 - 1405.592 Andrea Gonsalves Rosenstein

If only he'd stayed in prison a little bit longer, if only he hadn't come to Davis, it just brought it all back again.

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1406.243 - 1417.252 Troy Roberts

But this time, Hirshfield wasn't going anywhere. He remained behind bars in Washington in the child molestation case, while California investigators cemented theirs.

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1417.973 - 1433.246 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

There's a lot of work that goes on after the cold hit. Some people think you hear the DNA match, we have the suspect, that's the end of the story. This person came out of the blue. Did they have any connection to Sacramento? Did they know anyone in Davis?

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1434.414 - 1453.509 Troy Roberts

The answer to both questions was yes. Hirshfield once had friends in Davis who lived across the street from the condo Andrea and Sabrina shared. And that's where authorities believe Sabrina and John were abducted. So this was five days before Christmas? Yes. Most of the students had gone home?

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1453.976 - 1459.9 Investigator Ron Garverick

Like every university town, they just start their break, and this place is pretty vacant. Right.

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1460.54 - 1466.744 Troy Roberts

And because this place was deserted, no one could hear their cries if they were abducted in the complex.

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1467.285 - 1475.61 Investigator Ron Garverick

It's that, and that night was extremely foggy, so your visibility is way down. Do you believe Hirschfeld was stalking Sabrina?

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1476.328 - 1484.712 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

Yes, I think Sabrina was selected because of her looks. She was very attractive, and I don't think it was a coincidence that he happened upon her.

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1486.813 - 1498.679 Troy Roberts

Investigators also learned that Richard Hirshfield had her brother, Joseph, who was living in this house near Sacramento at the time of the murders. It's just a few miles from where the bodies were dumped.

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1502.196 - 1525.806 Investigator Ron Garverick

The assignment that my partner and I had was to go talk to him and ask him what he knew about his brother, Richard, in 1980. And we let him know that Richard's a suspect in two murders from 1980. He was a little nervous throughout the interview. But my partner tells me, when you said DNA, he started shaking. We didn't know what to think.

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1526.906 - 1536.168 Troy Roberts

The next day, Joseph Hirschfeld got into his car and committed suicide by carbon monoxide poisoning. The note he left behind was a bombshell.

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1537.048 - 1549.091 Investigator Ron Garverick

I have been living with this horror for 20 years. Richard did commit those murders, but I was there. I didn't kill anyone, but my DNA is still there.

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1550.532 - 1567.446 Troy Roberts

Joseph's DNA was never found in the Riggins van, and no one knows exactly what role he played in the murders. But even with strong evidence, Richard's DNA and Joseph's suicide note, the case was moving at a snail's pace. It took 10 years to bring this case to trial.

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1568.487 - 1569.007 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

That's true.

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1569.707 - 1569.968 Troy Roberts

Why?

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1571.248 - 1581.675 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

When the death penalty is on the table, it typically takes longer. Obviously, the stakes are higher. The sheer volume of materials was overwhelming and daunting.

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1582.436 - 1591.678 Troy Roberts

The case had over 200,000 pages of discovery. Hirschfeld's defense team would file more than 200 motions and be granted many delays.

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1592.258 - 1602.901 Andrea Gonsalves Rosenstein

And every delay was to his benefit, not ours. The victims should have a right to. We have a right to get this done. It cost us, the state of California, the taxpayer, millions of dollars.

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1603.021 - 1604.041 Troy Roberts

Is the system broken?

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1604.601 - 1608.622 Andrea Gonsalves Rosenstein

You know what? I really do believe there is something horribly wrong with it.

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And time took its toll. Sabrina and Andrea's father, George, received a devastating diagnosis. He had Alzheimer's.

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1623.101 - 1634.39 Andrea Gonsalves Rosenstein

He wanted to be at the trial. He wanted to see justice done to the man who murdered his baby. And all he kept saying is, is it gonna be fast enough? Am I gonna be able to be there? Am I gonna be able to testify?

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Finally, in September 2012, 10 years after the DNA hit and almost 32 years after the notorious murders, the trial of Richard Hirschfeld was set to begin.

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1744.281 - 1760.229 Troy Roberts

The now 63-year-old Richard Hershfield enters court in a wheelchair, barely resembling the menacing figure he once was. Why didn't you want to be in the courtroom to hear all that testimony? Some of it graphic in nature.

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1760.729 - 1767.152 Andrea Gonsalves Rosenstein

It's a matter of needing to be there. I wanted the jury to know that we were there, to know that we cared.

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1767.938 - 1779.944 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

Sabrina was also encompassed, her face in duct tape. These were not bodies on a slab. These were real people. It covered her eyes, her nose, and her mouth.

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1780.424 - 1785.687 Troy Roberts

The prosecution has a powerful case against Hirschfeld, starting with the DNA match.

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1786.107 - 1789.89 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

You cannot make somebody's DNA appear on evidence.

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1790.23 - 1794.913 Defense Attorney Linda Parisi

Lead defense attorney Linda Parisi... That Mr. Hirshfield is wrongfully accused.

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1795.113 - 1805.821 Troy Roberts

...does not deny it's Hirshfield's DNA on the blanket, but insists it could have gotten there some other way. His DNA just magically appeared on its own on this blanket.

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1806.422 - 1820.889 Defense Attorney Linda Parisi

I don't think it magically appeared at all. The van was open. During that period of time, Mr. Hirshfield was... in transition in terms of having a residence, and in fact, a person was seen sleeping in that van.

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1821.009 - 1831.575 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

That just makes no sense whatsoever, that someone who is a sexual predator happened upon a van that just was used in a double homicide and somehow deposited his semen.

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1832.476 - 1840.14 Troy Roberts

Prosecutor Dawn Bladet points out Sabrina's DNA was found mixed in with Hirschfeld's, evidence of a sexual assault.

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1840.74 - 1843.002 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

That tells you that they were there at the same time.

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1844.77 - 1850.252 Troy Roberts

Then there's Joseph Hirshfield's suicide note, implicating his brother Richard in the murders.

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1851.812 - 1854.693 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

Over defense objections... The people call Lana Hirshfield.

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1855.013 - 1857.594 Troy Roberts

The jury hears from Joseph's widow, Lana.

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1857.974 - 1862.976 Lana Hirshfield

I then called Joseph to tell him that some detectives had been to her home and that they wanted to question him.

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1864.396 - 1873.639 Troy Roberts

It was 2002, shortly after the DNA hit, when investigators came calling. Lana sent them to Joseph's workplace.

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1874.139 - 1876.701 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

When he came home, can you describe how he was acting?

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1877.282 - 1886.909 Lana Hirshfield

He was very upset, and he was very red-faced. Was that normal for him? No, he was actually a very calm person.

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1886.929 - 1894.175 Troy Roberts

The next night, Lana discovered her husband's body in his car, along with that suicide note.

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1894.435 - 1900.18 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

But I've been living with this horror for 20 years. I was there. My DNA is there.

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1901.772 - 1917.863 Troy Roberts

The prosecutor reads only part of that note to the jury because the defense has succeeded in getting the most incriminating part redacted. What the jury doesn't hear or see is this. Richard did commit those murders, and I didn't kill anyone.

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1918.304 - 1928.671 Defense Attorney Linda Parisi

We didn't believe that the suicide note is relevant or reliable. When people are planning their own death, it is not at all uncommon for them to rewrite history.

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1931.448 - 1951.155 Troy Roberts

The prosecutor wants the jury to have no doubt which brother was capable of committing the murders. Judge Michael Sweet allows testimony from Richard Hershfield's other victims because of similarities in the crimes. The woman Hershfield raped in 1975, Marge, is eager to help put him away for good.

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1951.995 - 1957.937 Marge

I think we've wasted enough time, enough energy, enough years. I think he should get the death penalty.

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1960.686 - 1966.111 Troy Roberts

Marge takes the stand and confronts her rapist for the second time in 37 years.

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1966.891 - 1982.265 Marge

He took off his clothes, everything but his T-shirt, and then he sat on the couch. And where was the gun? He was still holding it. Was he pointing it anywhere? At my head. I could feel it on my temple.

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1984.467 - 1988.17 Troy Roberts

Marge's words are chilling as she identifies her attacker.

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1988.663 - 1994.126 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

Do you recognize the man in that photo? Yes, I do. And who is that? Richard Joseph Hirschfield.

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1994.566 - 1999.509 Marge

And how do you know him? I will never forget him. He is the man that raped me in 1975.

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2000.27 - 2014.678 Troy Roberts

Faced with such damaging testimony, defense attorney Parisi decides her best strategy is to point the finger right back at the Hunt group, in spite of the DNA pointing elsewhere.

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2015.089 - 2018.831 Defense Attorney Linda Parisi

The focus is really on this Dave Hunt group.

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2019.052 - 2021.153 Troy Roberts

This group was exonerated years ago.

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2021.273 - 2032.861 Defense Attorney Linda Parisi

They were not exonerated. It was not where there was a finding that they were not involved. It was a finding that their DNA did not match with what was found on the blanket. We would ask to call Raymond Gonzalez.

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2033.021 - 2038.904 Troy Roberts

The defense's star witness is a paid police informant who at one point committed robberies with David Hunt.

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2039.024 - 2040.225 Defense Attorney Linda Parisi

Good morning, Mr. Gonzalez.

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2040.706 - 2053.205 Troy Roberts

48 hours agreed not to show his face. In 1987, detectives sent Ray Gonzalez to meet with Hunt associate Richard Thompson to try to get him to implicate David Hunt in the murders.

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2054.105 - 2058.229 Defense Attorney Linda Parisi

Did he tell you about his participation in these murders?

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2059.13 - 2066.416 Ray Gonzalez

Yes, he did. What did he tell you? We talked, and he had indicated that him and David Hunt were involved in it.

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2067.216 - 2073.004 Defense Attorney Linda Parisi

You ask him some questions about that guy putting up a struggle. Do you have a recollection of that conversation?

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2073.024 - 2074.826 Ray Gonzalez

Talking about John Riggins?

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2075.186 - 2075.467 Defense Attorney Linda Parisi

Yes.

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2075.567 - 2083.998 Ray Gonzalez

Because he put up a struggle and they would sell him down real quick. Apparently he had hit him with some sort of object or something and sold him down real quick.

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2084.298 - 2091.404 Troy Roberts

Although he was supposed to be secretly recording this meeting with Thompson, Gonzalez failed to get any of this alleged confession on tape.

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2091.544 - 2096.068 Ray Gonzalez

You ask me a lot of things I don't even remember. I don't, you know, some things I just don't recall.

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2096.088 - 2099.551 Troy Roberts

And maybe that's because he had 16 beers that night.

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2099.891 - 2101.052 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

How many beers did you have?

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2101.532 - 2103.394 Ray Gonzalez

I don't recall. A couple, two, three beers.

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2104.09 - 2118.204 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

Do you recall testifying previously in 1992 that you had about seven in the motel room and another nine in the bar? I don't recall that. If you had testified to that, would you have been testifying truthfully?

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2119.145 - 2119.865 Ray Gonzalez

But I don't recall.

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2120.266 - 2128.554 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

Ray Gonzalez is not an uncommon type of witness that we see. He's gotten cash for snitching on various people since he was a teenager.

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2129.059 - 2141.971 Troy Roberts

while Gonzalez spent a great deal of time on the stand saying he couldn't remember. For David Hunt, this is one case he'd rather forget. How does it feel right now with the Hunt group back in the news?

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2143.533 - 2154.143 David Hunt

Well, it sucks. This was such an ugly thing from the beginning. You know, just a straight, ugly, horrible story. I'm just tired of it.

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2154.727 - 2160.689 Defense Attorney Linda Parisi

David Hunt and his crime associate, Richard Thompson, figured quite prominently.

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2161.209 - 2172.533 Troy Roberts

In the end, the defense never called on David Hunt to testify, and he was greatly relieved. He says he left his criminal life behind long ago and found redemption through his Christian faith.

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2173.414 - 2176.975 David Hunt

I've done my best to straighten my life out. That's all I can do.

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2177.623 - 2179.944 Troy Roberts

I understand that you're very, very ill.

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2180.405 - 2186.808 David Hunt

I have stage four cancer, pancreatic cancer, and it probably won't last that long.

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2187.749 - 2193.112 Troy Roberts

Hunt is hoping to live to see his name cleared once and for all with a guilty verdict against Hirschfeld.

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2194.833 - 2198.515 Dr. Richard Riggins

My name is Richard Riggins, and I am the father of John Riggins.

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2199.591 - 2201.473 Troy Roberts

And as the case draws to a close.

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2201.894 - 2207.199 Kate Riggins

Our John and Sabrina were simply destroyed and left to die.

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2207.68 - 2212.345 Troy Roberts

Sabrina and John's families are hoping they can help make that verdict happen.

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2213.166 - 2219.233 Andrea Gonsalves Rosenstein

I am physically sickened and enraged when I think of the terror, pain, and horror they must have felt as they died in a ditch.

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2289.707 - 2305.82 Troy Roberts

The case against Richard Hirschfeld is about to be handed to the jury, and the stakes couldn't be any higher. He deserves death? Absolutely. You didn't hesitate? No. Prosecutor Dawn Bladet delivers an emotional closing argument.

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2306.161 - 2320.518 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

I struggled because these crimes are so incomprehensible. They are so horrific that none of these words really capture the kind of evil that happened that night.

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2320.878 - 2324.581 Troy Roberts

Blede reminds the jury of the strong physical evidence.

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2325.341 - 2332.006 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

That DNA on that blanket is sex. Semen is sex. This is a sexual crime.

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2332.506 - 2339.692 Troy Roberts

To cast doubt on the DNA, Linda Parisi suggests the blanket could have been contaminated through careless handling by investigators.

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2341.573 - 2352.798 Defense Attorney Linda Parisi

They put it in this bag. We didn't make up this bag. This bag isn't a stage prop. This bag is the for real bag.

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2353.678 - 2360.941 Troy Roberts

Blede doesn't mince words as she pounces on that other defense theory of how Hirschfeld's DNA might have gotten on that blanket.

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2361.401 - 2370.584 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

So now what do they suggest to you? He's the random masturbator. Just happens to have the urge to relieve himself on an item inside that van.

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2371.904 - 2372.724 Troy Roberts

It is November 5th, 2012.

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2374.69 - 2376.971 Andrea Gonsalves Rosenstein

We've been waiting and waiting and waiting. So nervous.

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2381.593 - 2386.055 Troy Roberts

The jury of seven men and five women deliberates less than three hours.

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2386.876 - 2388.737 Jury Foreman

We the jury in the above entitled cause.

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2388.977 - 2389.477 Troy Roberts

The verdict.

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2389.717 - 2392.518 Jury Foreman

Find the defendant Richard Joseph Hirshfield guilty.

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2393.539 - 2402.043 Troy Roberts

Guilty in the murders of both John and Sabrina. It is a huge relief for the families.

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2402.526 - 2411.79 Kate Riggins

We won't be able to bring him back, nor Sabrina. But we hope this is the beginning of justice for this horrendous case.

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2413.811 - 2416.872 Troy Roberts

The jury reconvenes three weeks later for sentencing.

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2417.212 - 2419.153 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

The people call Dr. Richard Riggins.

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2419.593 - 2423.015 Troy Roberts

To decide whether Richard Hirshfield deserves the death penalty.

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2423.875 - 2443.168 Dr. Richard Riggins

Visualizing the way he died, you know, wrapped up in tape. throat cut, thrown in a ditch, trying to breathe, knowing he's dying, and it's good.

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2444.328 - 2449.691 Troy Roberts

A private man, Dr. Richard Riggins has never so publicly shared the deep pain of his loss.

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2450.612 - 2458.736 Dr. Richard Riggins

I wasn't there. There was nothing I could do. So I'd failed in my biggest duty to him.

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2459.952 - 2463.935 Troy Roberts

And there is more gut-wrenching testimony from Sabrina's mother.

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2464.956 - 2486.893 Sabrina's Mother

This is really hard for me. I don't like to cry in front of other people. And I really don't like to cry in front of him. It ripped my heart out and it killed me. Or I wish it had, I wish it had been me. You love your kids and you want the best for them, their whole life.

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2489.79 - 2497.434 Troy Roberts

While the prosecutor pushes for the death penalty, defense attorney Parisi hopes the jury will show mercy and spare Hershfield's life.

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2498.214 - 2514.81 Defense Attorney Linda Parisi

Mr. Hershfield didn't have an easy life. Some will say he didn't have a chance. His mother was raped by Mr. Hirshfield's father. His father was a very cruel man, physically, emotionally abusive.

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2514.83 - 2523.474 George Gonsalves

A lot of people have horrendous childhoods and they do not go out and murder and torture and become pedophiles.

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2523.494 - 2528.876 Troy Roberts

And Parisi believes there's another reason her client cannot help being prone to violence.

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2529.216 - 2533.108 Dr. Douglas Tucker

These are very abnormal scans. This constitutes brain damage.

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2533.648 - 2538.429 Troy Roberts

Defense witness Dr. Douglas Tucker has studied MRIs of Hirschfield's brain.

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2538.789 - 2549.093 Dr. Douglas Tucker

This is a serious brain abnormality in an area of the brain that's involved with emotional processing and control over behavior.

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2549.393 - 2552.014 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

Okay, you're not saying that he can't exercise free will?

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2553.114 - 2554.315 Dr. Douglas Tucker

No, I'm not saying anything like that.

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2554.655 - 2564.532 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

Not saying that he's not capable of making decisions about what is right and what is wrong? I'm not saying that. And you're not even saying that he's mentally ill, correct? I'm not saying that.

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2566.473 - 2569.115 Troy Roberts

The case goes to the jury for the second time.

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2569.595 - 2578.84 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

He chose death over life for John and Sabrina. He chose murder over mercy for his victims that day.

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2579.421 - 2584.624 Defense Attorney Linda Parisi

This is the time to punish, but it's time for the killing to stop.

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2586.687 - 2589.729 Troy Roberts

This time, they deliberate for only two hours.

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2590.069 - 2593.732 Jury Foreman

We, the jury, find that the penalty shall be death.

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2596.234 - 2599.997 Judge Michael Sweet

It is the order of this court that you shall suffer the death penalty.

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2600.697 - 2610.264 Troy Roberts

And as Judge Michael Sweet later upholds the death sentence, he directly addresses Sabrina and John's families. It is January 25, 2013, 32 years after the murders. You have endured so much.

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2615.928 - 2634.376 Judge Michael Sweet

The tortured history of this case must have taken away any hope you had that the person responsible for these acts would be discovered and held to answer. And it's my sincere and deep felt apologies for the tragedies you have suffered.

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2638.266 - 2655.129 Dr. Richard Riggins

He is a very evil man, and this is a very appropriate penalty. If you think about Hirschfeld's contributions to society, what has he contributed? He's contributed humiliation, pain, and death.

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2655.529 - 2662.291 Unnamed Family Member

I can't believe it. It's over. I'm so relieved. I'm so happy.

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2663.598 - 2676.249 Troy Roberts

And the families are forever grateful to the prosecutor who finally closed this case, a case she herself will never forget. Did you make a silent promise to these young victims?

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2677.65 - 2686.338 Prosecutor Dawn Bladet

More than once, yeah. And I felt gratitude that I was able to come through for them.

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2691.781 - 2695.682 Troy Roberts

I know that you'll never forget her, but emotionally, are you free now?

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2696.342 - 2714.165 Andrea Gonsalves Rosenstein

I'm not free because I miss her, but he's out of our life. We never have to think about him again. I can just miss her. I can just think about that, and we're really ready to do that.

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2725.103 - 2734.907 News Reporter

Richard Hirshfield remains on death row, but California now has a moratorium on the death penalty. David Hunt died during the trial without seeing his name cleared.

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