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Troy Roberts

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48 Hours

A Tragic Journey

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Better let that anger go, brother. David Hunt and Doug Lehner maintain their innocence to this day. Did you kill Sabrina and John? No. Did your brother mastermind these killings? No.

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A Tragic Journey

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Both men admit they were drug addicts and thieves, but insist they would never commit murder. Both of you were described as sophisticated, savvy desperados.

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A Tragic Journey

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Those dumb things Lehner did included stealing bed sheets from hotels. But this time, even with no physical evidence, he and the other members of the Hunk Group were facing the death penalty. It's ludicrous.

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A Tragic Journey

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So this wasn't designed to free Gerald? Absolutely not.

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A Tragic Journey

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On the eve of the Hunk Group's trial, there was a stunning development. And it involved that birthday gift Sabrina had intended to give her sister Andrea, a blanket. Apparently, the killer had unwrapped it and left semen stains that went unnoticed for years. Those stains could now be tested for DNA, a forensic tool that didn't exist at the time of the murders.

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Police asked for blood samples from the accused. What did your attorney advise you to do?

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Lehner, too, was certain the DNA would prove his innocence.

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And as they predicted, the DNA on the blanket did not match any of the men in the Hunk group. So in January 1993, all the charges were dropped.

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A Tragic Journey

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By then, David Hunt and his co-defendants had spent three years in jail.

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A Tragic Journey

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After their son John was murdered... Oh, it's so pretty. Dr. Richard Riggins and his wife Kate still had two younger children to raise, son Robert and daughter Carrie.

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The lack of an arrest made it even harder. But by 2002, DNA science had advanced even more. The State Crime Lab was now routinely comparing DNA from cold cases to that of convicted criminals stored in a new database. When they uploaded the DNA from those semen stains on the blanket, incredibly, there was a hit.

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A Tragic Journey

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The suspect's name was Richard Hirshfield. Local investigators had never heard of him, but they soon learned he had a very dark past. Who is Richard Hirshfield?

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A Tragic Journey

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Prosecutor Dawn Bladet.

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A Tragic Journey

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At the time of the DNA hit, then 53-year-old Hirshfield was in prison for molesting two little girls. Many years earlier, in 1975, he had been convicted of rape in Northern California.

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A Tragic Journey

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In 2006, 48 Hours spoke to his California victims, two sisters, Marge and Michelle, who didn't want their last names used.

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They were 22 and 16 at the time he entered their apartment, demanding money. when they told him they had none.

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What are you thinking about right now?

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A Tragic Journey

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Hirschfeld served only five years in prison for that crime. He was paroled in July 1980.

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A Tragic Journey

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Five months later, John and Sabrina were murdered.

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A Tragic Journey

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But this time, Hirshfield wasn't going anywhere. He remained behind bars in Washington in the child molestation case, while California investigators cemented theirs.

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A Tragic Journey

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The answer to both questions was yes. Hirshfield once had friends in Davis who lived across the street from the condo Andrea and Sabrina shared. And that's where authorities believe Sabrina and John were abducted. So this was five days before Christmas? Yes. Most of the students had gone home?

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A Tragic Journey

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And because this place was deserted, no one could hear their cries if they were abducted in the complex.

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A Tragic Journey

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Investigators also learned that Richard Hirshfield had her brother, Joseph, who was living in this house near Sacramento at the time of the murders. It's just a few miles from where the bodies were dumped.

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A Tragic Journey

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The next day, Joseph Hirschfeld got into his car and committed suicide by carbon monoxide poisoning. The note he left behind was a bombshell.

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A Tragic Journey

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Joseph's DNA was never found in the Riggins van, and no one knows exactly what role he played in the murders. But even with strong evidence, Richard's DNA and Joseph's suicide note, the case was moving at a snail's pace. It took 10 years to bring this case to trial.

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A Tragic Journey

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The case had over 200,000 pages of discovery. Hirschfeld's defense team would file more than 200 motions and be granted many delays.

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Is the system broken?

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A Tragic Journey

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And time took its toll. Sabrina and Andrea's father, George, received a devastating diagnosis. He had Alzheimer's.

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Finally, in September 2012, 10 years after the DNA hit and almost 32 years after the notorious murders, the trial of Richard Hirschfeld was set to begin.

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A Tragic Journey

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The now 63-year-old Richard Hershfield enters court in a wheelchair, barely resembling the menacing figure he once was. Why didn't you want to be in the courtroom to hear all that testimony? Some of it graphic in nature.

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The prosecution has a powerful case against Hirschfeld, starting with the DNA match.

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...does not deny it's Hirshfield's DNA on the blanket, but insists it could have gotten there some other way. His DNA just magically appeared on its own on this blanket.

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Prosecutor Dawn Bladet points out Sabrina's DNA was found mixed in with Hirschfeld's, evidence of a sexual assault.

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Then there's Joseph Hirshfield's suicide note, implicating his brother Richard in the murders.

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The jury hears from Joseph's widow, Lana.

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It was 2002, shortly after the DNA hit, when investigators came calling. Lana sent them to Joseph's workplace.

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The next night, Lana discovered her husband's body in his car, along with that suicide note.

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The prosecutor reads only part of that note to the jury because the defense has succeeded in getting the most incriminating part redacted. What the jury doesn't hear or see is this. Richard did commit those murders, and I didn't kill anyone.

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The prosecutor wants the jury to have no doubt which brother was capable of committing the murders. Judge Michael Sweet allows testimony from Richard Hershfield's other victims because of similarities in the crimes. The woman Hershfield raped in 1975, Marge, is eager to help put him away for good.

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Marge takes the stand and confronts her rapist for the second time in 37 years.

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Marge's words are chilling as she identifies her attacker.

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Faced with such damaging testimony, defense attorney Parisi decides her best strategy is to point the finger right back at the Hunt group, in spite of the DNA pointing elsewhere.

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This group was exonerated years ago.

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A Tragic Journey

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The defense's star witness is a paid police informant who at one point committed robberies with David Hunt.

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48 hours agreed not to show his face. In 1987, detectives sent Ray Gonzalez to meet with Hunt associate Richard Thompson to try to get him to implicate David Hunt in the murders.

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Although he was supposed to be secretly recording this meeting with Thompson, Gonzalez failed to get any of this alleged confession on tape.

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And maybe that's because he had 16 beers that night.

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while Gonzalez spent a great deal of time on the stand saying he couldn't remember. For David Hunt, this is one case he'd rather forget. How does it feel right now with the Hunt group back in the news?

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In the end, the defense never called on David Hunt to testify, and he was greatly relieved. He says he left his criminal life behind long ago and found redemption through his Christian faith.

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I understand that you're very, very ill.

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Hunt is hoping to live to see his name cleared once and for all with a guilty verdict against Hirschfeld.

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And as the case draws to a close.

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Sabrina and John's families are hoping they can help make that verdict happen.

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The case against Richard Hirschfeld is about to be handed to the jury, and the stakes couldn't be any higher. He deserves death? Absolutely. You didn't hesitate? No. Prosecutor Dawn Bladet delivers an emotional closing argument.

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Blede reminds the jury of the strong physical evidence.

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To cast doubt on the DNA, Linda Parisi suggests the blanket could have been contaminated through careless handling by investigators.

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Blede doesn't mince words as she pounces on that other defense theory of how Hirschfeld's DNA might have gotten on that blanket.

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It is November 5th, 2012.

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A Tragic Journey

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The jury of seven men and five women deliberates less than three hours.

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The verdict.

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Guilty in the murders of both John and Sabrina. It is a huge relief for the families.

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The jury reconvenes three weeks later for sentencing.

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A Tragic Journey

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To decide whether Richard Hirshfield deserves the death penalty.

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A private man, Dr. Richard Riggins has never so publicly shared the deep pain of his loss.

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And there is more gut-wrenching testimony from Sabrina's mother.

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While the prosecutor pushes for the death penalty, defense attorney Parisi hopes the jury will show mercy and spare Hershfield's life.

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And Parisi believes there's another reason her client cannot help being prone to violence.

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Defense witness Dr. Douglas Tucker has studied MRIs of Hirschfield's brain.

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The case goes to the jury for the second time.

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This time, they deliberate for only two hours.

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And as Judge Michael Sweet later upholds the death sentence, he directly addresses Sabrina and John's families. It is January 25, 2013, 32 years after the murders. You have endured so much.

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And the families are forever grateful to the prosecutor who finally closed this case, a case she herself will never forget. Did you make a silent promise to these young victims?

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I know that you'll never forget her, but emotionally, are you free now?

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I'm Troy Roberts. The Sweetheart Murders. The wheels of justice turn slowly, but I've never covered a story quite like this. It's hard to imagine that it would take more than three decades to find the killer and bring him to trial.

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A Tragic Journey

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Sabrina Gonzalez's mother, Kim, and her father, George, weren't sure they'd live to see the day.

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Over the decades, Andrea Gonzalez Rosenstein has remained devoted to keeping her baby sister's memory alive. Tell me about Sabrina.

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Andrea named her firstborn Sabrina, and after having her third child, she decided to adopt three more.

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Back in the summer of 1980, Andrea was already attending the University of California at Davis when her sister moved in with her. Sabrina was excited to begin her own college career. That summer, Sabrina met John Riggins while working for the town's recreation department.

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John had been a popular high school athlete in Davis, but he stood out for another reason as well. When he was much younger, he had this mop of red hair that got a lot of attention.

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Kate and Dr. Richard Riggins, an orthopedic surgeon, were proud of their son. John was considering following in his father's footsteps. Do you ever think about what kind of man your son would have become? He would have been 51 years old now.

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The night of December 20th, 1980, Sabrina and John were expected at that surprise party for Andrea's 22nd birthday. But they never showed and never called.

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It was out of character.

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When you realized he hadn't come home, what was going through your mind?

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Sabrina and John had been missing for 36 hours when police found the Riggins family van abandoned about 30 miles east of Davis in Sacramento County. Former detective Carol Daly.

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But a few hours later, Detective Daley received the call that the bodies had been found just under a mile away, discarded in that ravine.

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There were signs that Sabrina had been sexually assaulted. John had a head injury suggesting he fought to protect her. Eighteen, they're just children.

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I understand that you wake up in the middle of the night thinking of your son.

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The case became known as the Sweetheart Murders. Investigators from two counties mobilized to hunt down this sadistic killer, but they had no idea just how difficult that would be.

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As the town of Davis said goodbye to the two sweethearts, their chilling murders had police fearing a serial killer could be on the loose.

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Investigator Ron Garverick is with the Sacramento District Attorney's Office.

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Police received hundreds of tips. They even released this composite sketch of a suspicious man spotted in the area.

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This is the kind of rough brush that the bodies were found in? Yeah. It's just by luck that the officers found the bodies, right?

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But the investigation went nowhere and the trail went cold. Year after year, the lack of answers only added to the family's pain.

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Six years passed, and then a tip led police to revisit another double murder that happened around the same time to see if there was any connection.

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Like John and Sabrina, this college couple was abducted from a public place, killed execution style, and then dumped around the Sacramento area. But in this case, police quickly made an arrest and got a conviction. The killer was this man, Gerald Gallego, a violent sexual predator. But on the night John and Sabrina were killed, he had an airtight alibi. He was already in jail.

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And that's why police, looking at the sweetheart's case years later, arrived at an unusual theory that John and Sabrina's murder was a copycat crime committed by Gallego's friends to try and clear him.

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In 1989, nine years after the Sweetheart murders, police arrested David Hunt, Gallego's half-brother, who also had a criminal past. Believing he had help, they rounded up Hunt's wife, Sue Ellen, and his partners in crime, Richard Thompson and Doug Lehner. They became known as the Hunt Group. All four were charged with the murders of John and Sabrina.

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According to Darren, the fight escalated, and when he turned his back on her, Charla knocked him to the ground. Darren says that's when the gun he was carrying fell out of his pocket.

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Darren says as Charla stumbled backwards, she stepped on the gun. He claims she picked it up and aimed it right at him.

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Darren claimed the gun had misfired, which may or may not explain why there was no evidence of gunplay. And this is the first time, by the way, that prosecutors heard anything about a gun in the garage.

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According to Darren, Charla tried to pull the trigger again, but this time... He was ready for her with his knife.

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Defense attorney David Chesnoff picks up Darren's story from that morning's crime spree.

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The defense says Darren went into that delusional state of mind after Charla allegedly put the gun in his face.

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Chesnoff says they will prove Darren was still delusional when he managed to hit Judge Weller in a single shot from 170 yards away.

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Darren's attorneys were trying a unique defense strategy, self-defense in the murder of Charla Mack, for the attempted murder of Judge Chuck Weller. Is Darren Mack insane? No. No.

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Despite the horrible details revealed at trial.

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Darren Mack still has supporters like Garrett Idle. Help me understand that line of thinking. If it wasn't for Judge Weller, Charlie Mack would be alive today?

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Garrett met Darren through a divorce support group.

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Alicia Biddeson claims Judge Weller crossed the line with her too when she was before him for that custody dispute. How did Judge Weller conduct himself?

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Alicia was then a captain in the Army, and she says Weller accused her of being upset because her child's father moved on.

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As his friends see it, Darren's own frustrations led him to that parking garage to send Judge Weller a message.

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What do you make of Darren Mack's claim that he didn't intend on killing Judge Weller? Do you believe that?

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Thank you, Judge Charles Weller. In a rare turn of events, Judge Chuck Weller found himself on the witness stand.

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Concerned, Judge Weller approached the head of the group and asked him about the negative blogs. Why is this happening?

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Weller remembered this conversation and gave police the details from his hospital bed.

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Now, it's the defense's turn to cross-examine the judge. And they begin by questioning his knowledge of the divorce case.

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And then the defense tried to show just how delusional Darren was.

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But Garrett Idle says the tapes don't tell the whole story. And unless you've been through it, you cannot truly appreciate how it can drive someone to the edge.

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But even his number one supporter concedes Darren's approach was probably not the best way to bring attention to their cause. What do you think this case has done to your efforts for judicial reform?

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Alicia says that won't stop her fight to try and improve the family court system. And it definitely won't stop her from fighting for the man she loves. Why are you still standing by his side after learning everything that's been put out there during the course of that trial? You know about the details of how Charlamac was slaughtered, and you're still there. You're still by his side.

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And I've seen the pictures as well. You're still there.

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None of that changes the fact that this man brutally killed the mother of his child.

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Smile, honey. It's been 16 months since Darren Mack killed his wife, Charla.

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16 long months that Darren says he spent anxiously waiting to tell his side of the story.

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His family and friends gathered for the first day of the defense's case.

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But over the weekend, there had been a change of plans. So instead of taking the stand.

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Darren took a deal.

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Yes. He would admit to murdering Charla, and in return, he would have a better shot at parole.

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I have before me the written plea agreement. As part of the plea deal, Darren also admitted there was enough evidence to find him guilty of the attempted murder of Judge Weller.

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But in the same breath.

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He also managed to take a parting shot at Judge Weller by praising Judge Herndon.

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And in a private meeting, he also thanked the men who were trying to convict him, Robert Daskus and Christopher Lawley.

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But things were about to get even more surreal.

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Just three weeks later.

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Darren Mack announced he had fired his attorneys and wanted to withdraw his guilty plea.

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The high-profile attorneys were out, and local Reno attorney William Rustis was in. His first order of business was to try and get Darren a whole new trial.

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Rustis claims his old attorneys, Chesnoff and Freeman, had coerced Darren into pleading guilty, and that Darren had agreed because he was confused, sleep-deprived, and dehydrated.

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So two months later, Judge Herndon hauled everyone back into a Reno courtroom to hear arguments for a new trial. And this time, the star witnesses were Darren's former attorneys. They took the stand to defend themselves and the dual strategy of self-defense and insanity.

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But David Chesnoff explains that it was Darren who insisted on the split defense.

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By calling his former lawyers to the stand, Darren waived his right to attorney-client privilege. So what he had told them could now be used against him.

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Darren's case continued to unravel as his other former attorney reluctantly takes the stand.

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But under oath, Scott Freeman is forced to reveal that Darren never mentioned a gun in their initial conversation about what happened in the garage.

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Darren told Freeman that he had thrown the gun into a dumpster. But when Freeman went to look, there was no dumpster, and therefore, no gun.

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Darren Mack finally gets his chance on the witness stand.

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That is correct.

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That is correct. Is there any evidence to support his claim that she pointed a gun at him?

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Darren insists he acted in self-defense and was coerced and confused when he took the murder rap.

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after three days of testimony, closing arguments.

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And defense attorney William Routzes makes a final plea to get Darren Mack another chance.

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Even from behind bars, Darren Mack is still trying to get his way. there was his guilty plea, his attempt to withdraw the guilty plea, and the firings of his own attorneys. Is the circus over?

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Now it's out of Darren's hands and up to the judge to decide if he gets a new trial.

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It's over for Darren Mack. He now has to face the consequences for his crimes. One month later, at his sentencing, both families have a chance to speak.

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Darren's son from his previous marriage begs the judge for leniency.

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Then, Charla's family has their turn.

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Darren is also given one last opportunity to speak, and he does, for three hours, still insisting he acted in self-defense.

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And at one point, he even has the audacity to suggest that he is the one suffering.

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Just one day before Charla Mack was murdered and Judge Chuck Weller was shot by a sniper, Alicia Biddison was out target practicing with her new boyfriend.

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Throughout the course of the entire trial, Darren Mack never uttered the words so many had hoped to hear.

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Judge Herndon sentenced Darren Mack to life in prison.

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The judge then offers advice to the grandmothers who are left to raise the lone survivor of this terrible ordeal, Erica Mack, now 10 years old.

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She noticed he was a pretty good shot. How good of a marksman is he?

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Excellent. His name, Darren Mack. They met online, though not on a dating website, but on a blog filled with scathing complaints about family court judge Chuck Weller.

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Alicia had her own run-ins with Judge Weller.

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What was it about Darren that attracted you?

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Did you fall in love with him?

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They knew each other just three months before the family man was accused of murdering his wife, Charla. You're the person that was closest to him in the days leading up to the murder of Charla Mack. What was going through his mind? What was his mental state?

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Alicia says that morning it never occurred to her that Darren could have been involved.

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So you're at work and you hear that Judge Weller had been shot. And what was your reaction? What did you do?

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When Garrett Idles spoke to Darren that morning, he had no clue that within hours there would be a massive manhunt on for his friend.

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Did you notice anything in his voice, any kind of panic?

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Alicia never heard back from Darren that day. And by 4.30 that afternoon, she knew why.

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It was a shock to you?

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And at that time, did you also fear for your own safety? No. Her only fear at that point was whether she too was under suspicion, since they'd been together just the day before at the shooting range.

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It was only then she heard the most shocking news of all.

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Charla Mack was found murdered on the floor of Darren's garage.

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This special two-part edition of 48 Hours continues.

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The next time Darren and Alicia saw each other was for a jailhouse visit several weeks after his return from Mexico.

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Darren Mack plans to testify at his trial about what drove him to kill Charla.

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But he lived in fear of his own wife.

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And alone with Charla in that garage, it was she, Darren says, who attacked him. Since June of 2006, the murder of Charla Mack and the shooting of Judge Chuck Weller have been the talk of Reno.

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So when it came time for Darren Mack's trial more than a year later, the show went on the road to Las Vegas.

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Writer Amanda Robb followed the case for 48 hours.

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Prosecutor Robert Daskus opened for the state.

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A big part of the state's case would be these recordings from Judge Weller's courtroom showing the bitterness of the Mack's divorce. Over and over, they lie, lie, lie. This courtroom battle went on for over a year and a half, mostly about money.

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What do you want me to do? At one point, Judge Weller even threatened to throw Darren in jail when he violated a court order.

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Prosecutors believe the idea to kill Charla may have been planted a couple of weeks earlier when Darren sat for this cable access interview with a father's rights advocate. Mack railed against Weller.

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And then there was this chilling remark from host William Wagner to Darren.

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What was Darren Mack's reaction when that comment was made?

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At some point following this interview, prosecutors say, Darren took this advice a step further and actually wrote a to-do list for his crime spree.

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Friends Anne and Christine say that morning began like so many others.

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Less than two hours later, Darren Mack could check one more thing off that to-do list. As Judge Chuck Weller lay bleeding on the floor of his chambers.

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Now it was Darren's turn, as defense attorney Scott Freeman opened with scenes of a very troubled marriage.

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The defense spared the jury no detail in describing the Mack's marriage.

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Darren told friends he started carrying a knife and a gun for protection. Yet in their last court appearance together, it was Charla who said she was afraid.

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Charla did want protection.

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And one person is still alive.

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And now, for the first time, defense attorneys reveal Darren's version of events, the morning Charla and Darren were face-to-face in that garage.