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Chapter 1: What is 'The Crime Scene Weekly' podcast about?
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Chapter 2: What new details emerged in the Idaho murders case?
Hey, crime scene listeners, as we were about to hit publish on this episode, our second episode, something happened. Hundreds of pages of documents were filed by the prosecution last night with some fascinating details, including a final assignment belonging to the suspect, Brian Koberger, who had been studying criminology. And they say this could have a direct bearing on this case.
So stick with us at the end of our conversation with ABC News anchor Kena Whitworth, and we will have the latest on that breaking news next. in addition to everything coming up right now. For the first time, ABC News has obtained the audio from a 911 call in the Idaho college murders case that shocked the nation. What we've learned could change the way we see the whole case.
Welcome to the crime scene. Every week, we talk about the biggest true crime story of the moment with the ABC News reporters who know it best. I'm Brad Milkey. I host ABC's daily news podcast, Start Here. And here, we're going to bring you the latest on what's big and what's new in the true crime scene.
This week, we're talking to ABC News correspondent, Kena Whitworth, who was the first network reporter on the ground in Idaho and has been closely following this shocking quadruple murder case for over two years. Kena's with us now. Hey, Kena. Hey, Brad. This case horrified Idaho, but also captivated the nation back in the winter of 2022.
You've hosted a whole podcast about this called The King Road Killings, but there's been new developments. Before we get into those, can you just, I guess, walk us through the background of the case?
Yeah, sure. You know, if anyone knows anything about fall in Northern Idaho, it's heavenly. And that's when all of this started to unfold. It was late in the football season. I think it was the Vandals' last home game. They'd had a great season. And these four students... went with all of their friends to the football game like you do in college. They went out that night.
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Chapter 3: Who were the victims in the Idaho murders case?
The ones that were 21 went to some bars, got some late-night food. The younger ones went to some parties at a frat house. Greek life is huge on campus at the University of Idaho. It's a big deal. These four students were generally beloved by everyone that we spoke with, and they were all heavily involved in Greek life as well. And then...
You know, by Sunday morning, everyone was shook to their core. And at the time when we started to learn that these four students had died, there were questions. But then, Brad, when we learned how they died is when this story got really scary because we learned that all four of them had been stabbed to death.
Kaylee Gonsalves and her lifelong best friend, Madison Mogan, were found stabbed to death in the upstairs bedroom of this house that was located just off campus on King Road. And on the second floor of this three-level home, Zanna Kernodle and her boyfriend, Ethan Chapin, were also found stabbed to death in her bedroom. No murder weapon has ever been found. And at the time, there was no suspect.
There was no lead. But what there was, was these two surviving roommates in the home. And when we learned that one of the surviving roommates that night actually told authorities she saw a man clad in black with bushy eyebrows walk past her that night.
And then really from there, the other big surrounding question that we're starting to get some answers to finally is this 911 call that was placed nearly eight hours after authorities think these four students were murdered.
And before we even get into the police involvement, the police investigation, can we talk about then what these victims were doing on the night of the murder, Kena?
Yeah. You know, when people are listening to this, I hope that everyone is reminding themselves of what they were like when they were 19, 20, 21, especially if you were in college at the time. Kaylee and Maddie went to one of their favorite bars. It's called the Corner Club. And Moscow is such a neat place. It's a beautiful college town. And it kind of has this one main street.
And the corner club is sort of at the very end of the main street. And so they were there and they were hanging out with their friends. And then you actually see them later on a street camera. And they're walking down the street. And when I talked to their friends... Oh, my heart was beating fast all of a sudden thinking about this. When I talked to their friends after this...
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Chapter 4: What happened on the night of the Idaho murders?
They all kind of giggled and laughed about how much they miss the girls and these mannerisms that they could see in this video that they love so much. Maddie's wearing somebody else's huge sweatshirt and she's kind of like swinging her arms, you know, and really playful.
And they go down and they go to this grub truck and it's that late night food, you know, really popular with all these college students. And you see them on camera. They're sort of giggling and laughing. And they go home. And so far, that video from that food truck is the last time that we see Kaylee and Maddie alive.
We know that Zanna and her boyfriend Ethan had also gone to a frat party earlier that night. And then they eventually made their way home as well to the house on King Road. And the other two roommates, the ones that survived, that lived on the first and second floor, were already home at the time.
OK, so what happens next is it goes past midnight into the early morning.
They get home pretty late. Maybe it's normal time for college kids. And what authorities are telling us is that Kaylee and Maddie stayed up till really late, till about 3 a.m. And they were calling Kaylee's.
ex-boyfriend it's hard to call him an ex-boyfriend though if i'm being honest with you brad because he was so involved in her life still they shared a dog together and they had been friends for most of their lives right so he's a huge factor in her life and they were calling him until like three o'clock in the morning and then zanna which i've been told by her friends is a total zanna move ordered late night delivery food from doordash and that arrives around 4 a.m and
It's 12 minutes later that authorities think someone came into that house. And after that is where things get pretty hazy there.
Hazy how?
For a long time, we've really had to rely on court documents to try to figure out what happened there. So one of the roommates told authorities, and this was all in the probable cause affidavit, told authorities that she thought she heard Kaylee playing with her dog upstairs. Then she heard a voice say, there's someone here.
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Chapter 5: What is the significance of the 911 call in the Idaho case?
And that was one thing, Brad, to read it, but to hear it is so different because you hear this panic and this confusion. And there's so many people on the call because these surviving roommates called their friends over that morning for help before they called 911. And they're passing the phone around and the dispatcher's frustrated.
And one of the things that has really stuck with me, Brad, is that, you know, I've spent a lot of time speaking with Kayla Gonsalves' parents. And her mother, Christy, has told me for a really long time that she didn't want this 911 call to be released. She didn't want to have to hear it. She knew that it would just break her heart. And it is heartbreaking. It is hard to listen to.
But what Kaylee's dad, Steve, also points out is that the confusion for him also paints a picture of innocence around these roommates.
Okay, and we are going to take a quick break right here. When we come back, we will hear the audio of that 911 call and talk about what it means for this case.
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Chapter 6: How does the 911 call impact the case?
And then she's sort of pleading with the dispatcher. Let me tell you what happened. We almost get a clear account from the surviving roommate of what happened. And the dispatcher sort of interrupts her because from the dispatcher's perspective, she needs to know right now what's happening. Is someone passed out? And it is clear that they don't understand the condition of anybody.
Okay, and so let's play the rest of this. This is sort of as they're finding the condition of the bodies here that we now know are past saving. Okay.
Okay, and how old is she? She's 20. 20, you said? Yes, 20. Okay. Hello? Hello? Okay, I need someone to stop passing the phone around because I've talked to four different people. Sorry, they just gave me the phone. Is she breathing? Hello? Is she breathing? Hello? No.
Okay.
Okay. I have already sent the ambulance and law enforcement. Stay on the line. If there is a defibrillator available, send someone to get it now and tell me when you have it. Say that again? There's a police here right now. Okay. If there's a defibrillator available, send someone to get it now and tell me when you have it. Do you have a defibrillator? Yes, we have one.
Are you talking to the officer? Yes. Okay. I'm going to let you go since he's there with you and can help you. Okay. Thank you. Bye. Okay.
Kena, I mean, just listening back to all that, what is your impression of that call?
Yeah, it's so hard, Brad. You know, you hear this male voice. He was also one of the friends that came over and you hear him sort of yelling, Ethan, Zanna. Yeah. kind of calling out to them. And then you kind of make out almost, it almost sounds like a get out, get out, you know, real frantic.
And then people are running and there's heavy breathing and panting and, and panic at that point starts to set in. And then that male voice takes the phone and is asked, is she breathing? And he says, no, the composure is in that young man is remarkable, especially given what we know happened. And so I do still think that there's questions about the layout of this house.
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