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MrBallen Traumatizes Tom Segura | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

Mon, 05 May 2025

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Chapter 1: Who is MrBallen and what does he do?

5.751 - 31.278 Tom Segura

Welcome to another episode of Two Bears, One Cave. My regular co-host is having his spine fused. And so while he's out, we have a great guest. If you're a fan of the strange, dark, and mysterious, don't forget to hit that subscribe button like you're slapping the tip of your penis on your partner's forehead. Ladies and gentlemen, let me introduce Mr. Ballin. Dude. All right.

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31.358 - 33.899 MrBallen

Very nice, dude. I love the care that was put into that intro.

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34.36 - 34.94 Tom Segura

Thought about it.

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37.841 - 38.601 MrBallen

That's the move, man.

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38.621 - 40.142 Tom Segura

Is that because you're Japanese? Why do you do that?

40.322 - 49.526 MrBallen

I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, I started doing that. Like, if you're a fan of the Strange, Dark, and Mysterious, that's all we do. That's all we do. And then I end it with one of these. Like, all right, into the stories. And then I just...

50.166 - 53.408 Tom Segura

I just never stopped doing it. I was watching that, and I was like, cool, I like this.

53.728 - 71.596 MrBallen

It feels kind of martial artsy. You know what's funny is I do that so often, because I record all the time. I'm always making episodes, and I routinely forget what I'm supposed to say that I've said a million times. I don't know what it is. You'll forget that thing? All of it. Really? When it gets to, if you're a fan of The Strange, Dark, and Mysterious, then you come to the right.

71.816 - 74.637 MrBallen

And I'll just black out. I just black it out. I have to do seven takes.

Chapter 2: Why are people fascinated by true crime stories?

74.657 - 86.294 Tom Segura

For people that don't know, that are watching this right now, or listening... If they don't know, you, Mr. Ballin, have a wildly successful YouTube channel.

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86.534 - 86.814 MrBallen

Thank you.

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86.874 - 96.0 Tom Segura

Where you tell stories about things that are strange, dark, and mysterious. True. And you have, like, what, 10 million subscribers or something?

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96.021 - 98.162 MrBallen

Just about. We're going to hit 10 million, I think, next week.

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98.622 - 99.203 Tom Segura

Next week.

99.323 - 100.323 MrBallen

I think it's next week.

100.464 - 125.34 Tom Segura

Yeah, soon. And what it is, is, like, it is, like, you sitting... And literally... telling these stories like the the whole thing i because i was i was i was listening to you explain how you made this transition into this thing but the part i didn't i didn't get like is this just a field you always had an interest in like did you always like stories like this

127.177 - 146.139 MrBallen

Kind of. I would say that the transition from being in the military to then telling spooky stories on the internet was not one I had planned. But I personally was always drawn to strange, dark, and mysterious content. Yeah. That's the stuff I like to listen to and watch on the internet.

146.239 - 149.322 Tom Segura

The same, dude. The same. Like, I am your audience.

Chapter 3: What are some of MrBallen's memorable stories?

227.764 - 245.529 MrBallen

It isn't that I didn't like it. I felt like it would be more connecting if the host was on camera. And it was like you were hearing somebody tell you the story. Because a lot of these channels, they do voiceover over dark imagery and video, and that's fine. But I just thought it's more engaging to hear some of these stories. It's a campfire setting.

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245.649 - 252.392 Tom Segura

I was going to say, it reminds me of... Actually, I feel like when you're a kid and an adult tells you a story, you know?

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252.612 - 252.832 MrBallen

Yeah.

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252.852 - 270.898 Tom Segura

Like, it's kind of like you just go, like, tell me... Like, my kids every night are like, tell me a story. And I'm like, I'm out of fucking stories, man. Like, I've been telling you... They're like, tell me a story of when you shit yourself one time. And I'm like, I've told you. I've told you the four times I can recall. And they just want more stories. But there is something about, like, your...

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271.818 - 276.441 Tom Segura

channel and the way you're telling these stories, it feels like. I'm like, oh, I'm like a kid watching an adult.

276.601 - 298.332 MrBallen

And truthfully, there was no strategy for that other than it's how I would have wanted to be told a story. And so in the early days, like the first couple of years from 2020 to 2022, I mean, when I was doing all the research, writing everything, I would create a script. But the process of researching the story and writing the script out I internalized the story.

298.372 - 316.818 MrBallen

And so I would have a script on my laptop off camera. But you had already like, yeah. Right. So I would sort of like look at the script and then tell the story. But I would do it in bursts. And I would often do like multiple iterations where I'd change it a little bit. And it just sort of worked. It sort of put me in a position where from that point on, I had to maintain that style.

316.918 - 323.66 MrBallen

And so I got better and better at, basically, I read a script in order to learn the meat of the story. And then I just tell it.

323.911 - 338.645 Tom Segura

And so for research now, because it feels like obviously there's an endless amount of stories out there, but you still have to get the story. Do you solicit stories? Are you guys just out researching stories? How do you actually get the story?

Chapter 4: What happened to the Yuba County Five?

Chapter 5: How does MrBallen find and create his stories?

399.69 - 401.031 Tom Segura

Yeah, you like it, right?

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401.111 - 419.184 MrBallen

It's incredible. But we have, you know, I want to say like 15 or 20 people that are just basically looking in different parts of the world that we have an Asian correspondent who's like only looking at like, you know, Chinese material that we wouldn't even know how to sift through to find stories. But again, they sort of fall into that public domain.

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419.904 - 424.126 MrBallen

And it all gets filtered to our writer's room, and I work with the writer's room, and we make scripts.

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424.186 - 426.746 Tom Segura

And you have a second graphic novel coming out?

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427.047 - 434.229 MrBallen

We do, we do. This is the official cover art here. I'll set it up right here. Yeah, so we did a graphic novel last year.

434.529 - 435.51 Tom Segura

Where Nightmares Live.

435.57 - 447.514 MrBallen

Where Nightmares Live. This is the second one. I'm trying to put it in frame here. Yeah. It's a collection of nine stories. Half will be new, half are fan favorites, and it'll come out later this year.

447.694 - 468.139 Tom Segura

Well, let me ask you this, because you probably have some insight on this now from having done this for a few years. Yeah. Which is, so there's certainly a segment of the population, obviously, that loves this kind of thing, right? Like I said, I'm one of these people. When I go home and I...

469.159 - 495.376 Tom Segura

want to wind down i look for i like suspense i like thrillers yep i like mystery yeah crime like these are the things that like i don't know engage me right yeah my wife sits there and she goes what's wrong with you she's like this all you put in your fucking head it's all this negative dark shit and i'm like yeah yeah this one calms me down calms me down and i this is what i enjoy and she's like you're mentally ill you know um but like

Chapter 6: Are there other habitable planets in the universe?

1238.067 - 1240.109 Tom Segura

Without being in a situation where you get smashed.

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1240.129 - 1258.063 MrBallen

So you're safe that way. Yeah. And so he goes to the platform. Again, it's nighttime. It's very windy. It's storming. And they're like, hey, it's right down there. And he's like, okay. So he goes down one level to the platform right below. You know, he can see his colleagues, you know, 20 feet above him on the platform right above. And he's like, all right, send down the harness.

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1258.263 - 1267.251 MrBallen

And so they feed this harness, just a three-point harness that's connected to a metal rope or a line. And they put it right down through that mouse hole on the platform above him.

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1267.811 - 1287.149 MrBallen

And that metal line that the harness is connected to feeds all the way back up to this winch that's controlled by a winch operator that's, you know, a couple platforms up in this, you know, glassed in sort of like overlook where they can actually see the whole platform. They can see the folks on the upper platform. They can see sort of Gordon, but they sort of have eyes on everything.

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1287.91 - 1308.107 MrBallen

And so they feed this harness down through the mouse hole. It gets to Gordon, puts the harness on, and then he gives the thumbs up to the folks right above him. And then they in turn turn and they call out to the winch operator like, hey, you know, he's ready to go up. And again, this is routine for everybody. Yeah. So the winch operator hits start and the winch slowly begins to retract.

1308.967 - 1327.923 MrBallen

And slowly but surely, Gordon is lifted off the ground on the lower platform and he's brought up, you know, 10 feet or whatever it was until he could access the section of the drill that he couldn't before. And he, you know, waves to the guys at that point, says, I'm good. I can see what I need to do. So the guys above him, they in turn, they wave to the hoist operator like, all right, stop it.

1328.604 - 1346.715 MrBallen

He hits the button. It stops. And so now Gordon is where he is. You know, he fixes the drill. It's all it begins to work again. Everything's great. And so he signals to the guys above him like, hey, I'm ready to go back down again because he is done. And so they turn and they ask the winch operator to go ahead and lower him.

1347.375 - 1367.008 MrBallen

And so the winch operator is like, OK, he hits the start button and then just kind of like starts looking off into space. Like this is his only job is literally pushing this button. Yeah, that's all he does. And so he's not really paying attention. He didn't realize that he had not reversed the settings of the winch, that instead of flipping it to now when he hit start, it lowers Gordon.

1367.268 - 1390.229 MrBallen

He had left it in retract mode. And so when he hit start, the winch began to continue to raise Gordon up towards the platform above him where that mouse hole is. And so now he's not moving quickly. This is a slow moving winch. And it's like, you know, 10 or 15 feet until he would even get to the platform above him. So it's not like, oh, my God, stop the winch. It's more like, come on, dude.

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