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Morning Wire
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Visit BetterHelp.com slash MrBallinPod today to get 10% off your first month. That's BetterHelp, H-E-L-P dot com slash MrBallinPod. A couple hours later, at 8 a.m. on March 2nd, a car pulled up in front of the house. Ted's 19-year-old son, Nicholas, and Nicholas's girlfriend, Jackie Edison, parked behind the line of police cars outside the house that Nicholas had grown up inside of.
Morning Wire
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They both got out of the car and immediately spotted Corey, who was still standing in the front yard, and began running towards her. An officer stopped them, but when they said who they were, he let them by. A moment later, Nicholas and Jackie were hugging Corey, and all three of them just stood there, crying.
Morning Wire
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Inside the house, Detectives Moore and Salo got word that Ted's son had just arrived, so they quickly went outside and found Nicholas and Jackie still standing with Corey. The detectives apologized for interrupting, but they asked Nicholas if they could talk to him for a few minutes.
Morning Wire
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Nicholas said of course, and then followed the detectives across the yard to a spot where they'd be able to talk without anybody else hearing. Moore started off by asking Nicholas where he'd been around 4.45 a.m. that morning, the time the 911 call had come in, and Nicholas said that he and his girlfriend were asleep at their place in College Station.
Morning Wire
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Jackie was a student at Texas A&M down there, and Nicholas worked trading stocks as a day trader. Moore took down a few notes and then asked Nicholas if there was anyone he could think of who had a problem with his father and might have wanted to do this. But Nicholas shook his head and said basically everybody who knew his parents loved them.
Morning Wire
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Moore asked if there was anything at all about Nicholas' dad that he could think of that could maybe help them, even if it was really small. Nicholas thought about it for a few seconds and then suddenly his eyes went wide like he just remembered something. He said there was one thing that could be important, but it was a really weird situation.
Morning Wire
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When he'd still been living at home, his next-door neighbor had come to him and said she thought that her husband was cheating on her. This neighbor knew Nicholas was pretty good with technology, so she'd asked if there was any way he could track her husband or something, and she told him she would pay him for his services.
Morning Wire
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Nicholas had felt strange getting involved in something like this, but his next-door neighbor was a nice woman and a good friend of his mother's, so he had helped her. He had put a tracker on her husband's car and followed him one night to another woman's house, and it became clear pretty quickly that the man was cheating on his wife. Now, Nicholas got a worried look on his face.
Morning Wire
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He'd always assumed the husband never knew he was involved in helping the wife catch him cheating. But if this man had found out it was him, he might have wanted revenge, and his dad might be dead because of it. After that, the detectives told Nicholas he could go rejoin his mother. After he had walked off, the two men just looked at each other and shook their heads in disbelief.
Morning Wire
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That was a really weird story. Neither of them had ever run into a teenager who had acted like a private investigator to catch a cheating husband. It almost sounded made up, more like something the kid might have watched on TV. But regardless, it was a good lead. After Moore and Salo finished up their initial work at Ted and Corey's house, they walked next door to the neighbor's house.
Morning Wire
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They knocked on the front door and a woman answered, and quickly she invited them inside. They all sat down at her kitchen table, and the detectives didn't waste any time. They needed to know if Nicholas' wild story about trailing this woman's husband was true. The woman looked a little embarrassed, but she said Nicholas was telling the truth.
Morning Wire
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She felt bad for dragging a teenager into her marital problems, but she had been desperate. Detective Moore leaned in and told her he did not need all the details about her marriage, but he needed to know one thing that was extremely important. Had she ever told her husband about Nicholas's involvement in all of this? The woman didn't hesitate. She said no way would she ever do that.
Morning Wire
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Her husband, who had since moved away and was soon to be her ex-husband, had no idea at all about Nicholas. And as she was talking, the reason for this line of questioning finally dawned on her. And she stopped and just said her husband might have cheated on her, but there was no way he would have ever attacked Ted or anybody else like that.
Morning Wire
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The detectives left the house not long after that and headed back to the station. Despite what the woman said about her husband, they knew they still had to track him down and get more information directly from him.
Morning Wire
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In the days following the murder, while members of their investigative team followed up on the neighbor's husband, Moore and Salo contacted Ted's closest friends to see what else they could learn about him. But not much new came from that. Everybody seemed to like Ted, and nobody could understand who would do this unless it was a robbery.
Morning Wire
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Now, while the detectives still were not convinced Ted's death was the result of a robbery gone wrong, they did start to look more into the jewelry store to see if maybe somebody had been staking the place out and following Ted home. However, they got a phone call from Ted's son, Nicholas, that caused them to quickly change the direction of their investigation.
Morning Wire
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Nicholas was aware that his bedroom window had been found open on the night his father was killed, and he said he just couldn't stop thinking about it, and in fact, there was something he felt like he needed to share with the detectives. He told them when he was younger, he would use his bedroom window to sneak out of the house and then get back inside without his parents knowing.
Morning Wire
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It was just stupid teenager stuff, nothing serious, but he did it so often that he made a habit of just keeping that window unlocked. Now he realized that particular window might have been left unlocked even after he had moved out. But what Nicholas said was really weighing on him was that there was only really one other person who knew he did this with his window.
Morning Wire
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And that was his friend Spencer Patterson. Because he and Spencer had crept out of that window a bunch of times together when Spencer had slept over. Detective Salo asked Nicholas if the reason he was so worried was because maybe Spencer had some reason to come after Nicholas now? Like, had they had a bad fight or something?
Morning Wire
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Nicholas said no, but he said Spencer would have gone to their house and potentially used that window to get in there and get his parents' money and jewels. Nicholas said Spencer had not really grown up with money of his own, and he'd always been kind of jealous of how wealthy Nicholas' family was. And there was more.
Morning Wire
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Spencer not only knew about the bedroom window, he also knew exactly where to find Nicholas's parents' safe. About a week after the murder, Detective Salo and Moore sat together in an office, going over the notes they'd already put together. And even though their investigation was still relatively new, they felt like they had some promising leads.
Morning Wire
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they still thought there was a strong chance that Corey had simply shot her husband, because in addition to what they'd learned at the house, they'd now discovered that Corey was the beneficiary of Ted's $1 million life insurance policy. She also stood to gain sole ownership of the jewelry store and the house, which were both worth a ton of money too.
Morning Wire
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The detectives believed they'd have a clear idea about Corey's potential involvement in the murder when they got the results of the ballistics tests that would show if Corey's gun had fired the bullets that killed Ted. But the detectives had also started to consider that maybe Corey had been right. Maybe this was a robbery gone bad.
Morning Wire
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And if that was the case, Nicholas's friend, Spencer, had to be high on their suspect list. Even if this robbery had not actually been successful, Spencer did know that Ted and Corey were wealthy, he knew how to sneak in through Nicholas's window, he knew his way around the maze-like house, and he knew where the safe was.
Morning Wire
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Detective Moore picked up the phone, put it on speaker, and called the number he had for Spencer. Spencer picked up, and Moore quickly introduced himself and then immediately launched into a series of questions.
Morning Wire
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The detectives learned that Spencer had gone over to Ted and Corey's house for dinner about a month ago when Nicholas had been visiting, and they said that they had treated him like he was one of the family, just like they'd done since he was a kid.
Morning Wire
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Moore asked Spencer how he and Nicholas used to sneak out of the house when they were younger, and Spencer talked about using the bedroom window, just like Nicholas had said. While the detectives talked to Spencer, they kept getting the feeling like he was holding something back.
Morning Wire
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The kid was being very cooperative in answering their questions, but there just seemed like there was always this hesitation, or like he was about to say something and then chose not to. By the end of the call, Moore and Salos still did not feel satisfied, so they scheduled an in-person meeting with Spencer. And in the meantime, they decided to keep a close eye on their other major suspect.
Morning Wire
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About a week later, in late March, Nicholas and Jackie were sitting on the couch in the front room of Ted and Cory's house, looking at Cory as she stared out the window onto the street. Nicholas didn't want his mom to be alone, so he told her that he and Jackie would stay at the house as long as they needed to. That had cheered Corey up, but it was clear she was still struggling.
Morning Wire
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And today, Nicholas and Jackie were extra worried about her because she kept standing there just staring out the window. They had no idea why. But suddenly, Corey turned around and told them to come over and take a look for themselves. And so Nicholas and Jackie walked over to the window and Corey pointed to a plain-looking sedan on the street.
Morning Wire
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She told them she thought it was a cop and that he was watching her. At first, this seemed like paranoia to Nicholas and Jackie. However, when Nicholas looked out the window and he got a good look at that car before it drove off, he thought his mom was right. It definitely could be an unmarked police car. Corrie stepped away from the window and collapsed onto the couch.
Morning Wire
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She didn't understand why the police would be watching her. Why weren't they out finding the person who had actually killed her husband? Nicholas looked over at his mom and he could tell she was just in total despair. And so he leaned over to Jackie and whispered something in her ear. Jackie was surprised by what she just heard, but she quickly smiled and nodded her head.
Morning Wire
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And so Nicholas took Jackie's hand and together they walked over to the couch where Corey was. And then Nicholas took a breath and said that he and Jackie had something very important he wanted to tell her. They were not just boyfriend and girlfriend anymore. They had actually gotten married. Corey instantly sat up and just stared at them for a second, shocked.
Morning Wire
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Nicholas quickly said that they had planned to tell her and dad when they came to visit next, and they still wanted to have a big ceremony, but they had just decided they wanted to spend the rest of their lives together, and so they had just gotten it done and gotten married. After a tense couple of seconds, Corey broke down in tears, but these were tears of joy.
Morning Wire
Cartel Attack Prep & Tariff Deal Talks | Afternoon Update | 2.3.25
On the evening of March 1st, 2018, 55-year-old Ted Shaughnessy placed a necklace and a glass display case in his high-end jewelry store in Austin, Texas. Ted adjusted his glasses on his face and then leaned in a bit closer, and he saw the lights in the case bounce off the gold and jewels in this necklace, and it was so beautiful, he just smiled.
Morning Wire
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She got off the couch, smiled, and hugged Jackie and told her how happy she was to welcome her to the family. Then, Corey said Jackie should go pick an engagement ring from their jewelry shop and then they should have a big engagement party. Even if they were already married, she didn't want her to miss out on anything.
Morning Wire
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And who knows, maybe this was a way for them to start to heal a bit and move forward as a family. Nicholas was very relieved. He was so glad the news had made his mom as happy as he hoped it would.
Morning Wire
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But as excited as she seemed, and as much as they all wanted something to celebrate during this terrible time, Nicholas just couldn't shake the image of that unmarked police car staking out his mother's house. Over the following weeks, the investigative team continued to dig into the Shaughnessy's financial records, and they also did keep eyes on Corey's house.
Morning Wire
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While that was going on, detectives Moore and Salo met in person with Nicholas' friend Spencer. And somehow, being face-to-face with him made them feel even more like he was hiding something. And it was strange, because on the surface, Spencer seemed cooperative and like he wanted to help.
Morning Wire
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But there was just something about the way this kid spoke that convinced Moore and Salo that they couldn't fully trust him. So after meeting with Spencer at the station, the detectives secured warrants to search Spencer's house and his car. Now, the search of the house didn't turn up anything out of the ordinary. However, when they went through Spencer's car, they found a .380 caliber gun.
Morning Wire
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Spencer had never mentioned having this gun, which seemed a little odd since he knew he was being investigated for a shooting. The detectives thought if he had wanted to clear himself, he wouldn't try to hide the fact that he owned a gun. And within days, this new piece of evidence looked a lot more damning.
Morning Wire
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Because when Ballistic's reports came back, they showed that some of the bullets fired at the crime scene came from a .357, which matched Corey's gun, and some of the others came from a .380, just like Spencer's. About a month after Ted's murder, Detectives Moore and Salo believed they had Ted's killer in their sights.
Morning Wire
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They collected more financial records and cell phone data to try to tie up any loose ends, and then they brought Spencer into the station for one last interview. Spencer sat down at a small table across from Salo and Moore in a brightly lit, cramped room. He'd always seemed a bit nervous to the detectives, but today, he looked like he was carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders.
Morning Wire
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But despite that, Moore and Salo didn't go on the attack. Spencer was young, and he was nervous and scared. So, Moore tried to put him at ease. He told him they thought they knew what happened on the morning Ted died. They just needed Spencer to help them fill in the blanks.
Morning Wire
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And before Spencer could even begin to talk, the detectives confronted him with all the evidence they had in the case, since they told him there really wasn't any point trying to hide anything anymore. After a very tense minute, Spencer looked across the table at the detectives and then told them everything he knew.
Morning Wire
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Following that interview, it would take Moore and Salo several more weeks to nail everything down. But in May of 2018, two months after Ted's murder, they knew exactly what had happened and who had fired the shots that killed Ted Shaughnessy.
Morning Wire
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He and his wife, Corey, had owned this jewelry store for 20 years. Corey had a keen eye for jewelry, so she worked as the appraiser, choosing which pieces to buy and then sell inside of the store, and also determining how much they were worth. And Ted was a great salesman. Ted took pride in the way he displayed the jewelry in the store.
Morning Wire
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Based on Spencer's interview, cell phone data, and evidence collected throughout the investigation, here is what police believe happened to Ted in the early morning hours of March 2, 2018. On that morning, the killers crept through the dark house, led only by the light shining from one of their phones. They each held a gun in their hands, and they tried to move as slowly and quietly as possible.
Morning Wire
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But when they made it to the kitchen and turned towards the main bedroom, they heard dogs start barking. The killers froze, not sure what to do. One of the dogs sounded really aggressive. The killer holding the phone shined the light towards the bedroom door, and right away they both saw something moving towards them.
Morning Wire
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As the barking got louder and they heard footsteps and loud clacking on the wooden floors, suddenly the light illuminated the dog, and it was the Rottweiler, Bart, bounding towards them, baring his teeth. One of the killers instinctively raised their gun and fired off a shot. The dog squealed and fell to the kitchen floor. Ted screamed and ran into the kitchen after the dog.
Morning Wire
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He raised his gun, but before he could get a shot off, now both killers started firing. The sound of gunshots crashed through the house as bullets hit Ted in the back, the thigh, and the head. Ted collapsed to the floor under the kitchen table, dead. The killers began shouting at each other, starting to panic. This had not gone the way it was supposed to.
Morning Wire
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But before they could make another move, bullets came whizzing out of the dark into the kitchen, hitting the wall and sending pieces of plaster onto the floor. The killer with the cell phone shined the light in the direction of the gunshots, trying to get a clear look at the shooter.
Morning Wire
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Their hands were shaking and they couldn't really aim well, but still the killers just held their guns and started firing wildly. And then finally the shots stopped and the kitchen fell silent. One of the killers shouted that they needed to get out of there. So they ran out of the kitchen into one of the bedrooms and climbed out the open window.
Morning Wire
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Outside, they ran as fast as they could through the darkness back to a car they'd parked down the street. They got in and one of the killers hit the gas and floored it through the neighborhood while the other killer sat panicking in the passenger seat.
Morning Wire
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They both knew they had screwed up and now they were gonna have to get in touch with the people who had hired them and tell them they'd only taken out one of the intended targets. The killers were two men who had no connection to Ted. However, the two people who hired these men were Ted's own son, Nicholas, and the woman Nicholas had secretly married, Jackie Edison.
Morning Wire
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He wanted to draw the customers in, and then once they were there, Ted would approach them like they were lifelong friends. Now, part of the reason he did this was just because it was an effective sales tactic. But also, Ted really did love meeting and talking with people who came in to shop off the street. That's actually one of the reasons he'd worked in retail for most of his adult life.
Morning Wire
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Nicholas knew if both of his parents were dead, he would inherit their store and their house and benefit from their life insurance policies, all of which would have made him a multimillionaire. And Nicholas really wanted that money because he had gone into quite a bit of debt from playing the stock market as a day trader.
Morning Wire
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So with Jackie's help, he found two hitmen and offered to pay them a lot of money to kill both Ted and Corey and to make it look like a robbery. Nicholas told the hitmen about his bedroom window and gave them a complete layout of the house.
Morning Wire
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But on the night of the murder, the hitmen did not imagine they would find themselves in a full-fledged shootout, so when Corey started firing off her .357 at them, the whole plan fell apart. And so when Corey rushed back to her closet to call 911, instead of the hitmen going after her and killing her, they just ran out of the house and didn't even attempt to make it look like a robbery.
Morning Wire
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And then a few hours later, when Nicholas and Jackie arrived at the house, they knew their plan had not worked. so they tried to play the perfect son and daughter-in-law. Nicholas also sent the cops after the neighbor's husband and his close friend Spencer.
Morning Wire
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The neighbor's husband was cleared as a suspect very quickly, but Spencer remained high on the suspect list, just like Corey was, for a significant amount of time. However, when ballistics tests came back, they confirmed that none of the bullets fired from Corey's gun had actually struck Ted, and that the gun that was found in Spencer's car had not been used in the murder.
Morning Wire
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And that fingerprint that had been found on the bedroom window did not match Spencer's. In fact, it just turned out to be an old print from when the window had been manufactured. So, the detectives no longer believed Spencer committed the murder. And the more they talked to Spencer, the more they realized he wasn't hiding something to protect himself.
Morning Wire
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He was hiding something to protect his best friend, Nicholas. But in his final meeting with police, Spencer would admit that Nicholas had talked to him on several occasions about wanting to murder his parents and hiring hitmen to do it. And after this, when police dug deeper into Nicholas' phone records, they found a couple of things that sealed the case.
Morning Wire
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Nicholas, being the family member who was the most tech-savvy, set up an app on his phone that enabled him to control the alarm system on his parents' house. And the second discovery, and the far more damning one, was a series of text messages between Nicholas and Jackie in which the two of them were clearly arranging a murder-for-hire.
Morning Wire
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Nicholas and both shooters were sentenced to 35 years in prison. Jackie cut a plea deal and received 10 years of probation. But with one very specific caveat, she had to spend two nights in jail every year on the anniversary of Ted's murder.
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Ted locked the display case and walked around the shop, turning off lights and closing things up for the day. Then he set the security alarm, headed out the door, and locked it behind him. Some nights, Ted would stay at the jewelry store long after it had closed to go over the books or to redo the displays. But tonight, he wanted to get home as quickly as he could.
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He and his wife had plans to spend the entire night doing one of their favorite things, eating a great home-cooked meal together and just relaxing and watching TV. After leaving the store, Ted climbed into his car and headed home. About 25 minutes later, he pulled into his neighborhood and he looked around at all the huge houses with sprawling front yards and swimming pools out back.
Morning Wire
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He found his house, which was just as big as all the others, and he pulled into the long driveway and came to a stop. He got out of the car, walked inside his house through the front door, and the moment he was inside, he was hit with this wonderful smell of something delicious cooking in the kitchen.
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But before he could even call out to his wife, he heard loud clacking sounds on the hardwood floors as two large dogs bounded through the front room towards him. Ted enthusiastically knelt down and began goofing around with the dogs and asking them how they were doing like they could answer back.
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Later, detectives found a chaotic scene in the kitchen, bullet casings everywhere, a middle-aged man dead on the floor, and a handgun near his hand. The woman claimed intruders had broken in, killed her husband, and fled when she opened fire. Detectives, however, began to suspect that the scene was staged to cover up something darker, possibly a wife killing her husband.
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Then he stood back up and the dogs followed at his heels as Ted made his way through the house, which could feel like walking through a maze for somebody who had never been there. Ted and the dogs got to the kitchen, and Ted saw his wife Cori standing over the stove. Cori turned around, and Ted immediately walked over, put his hands on her waist, and gave her a kiss.
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Ted helped his wife put some finishing touches on the meal, and then they both got excited about the night ahead of them. They knew a lot of people would find this to be a pretty boring way to spend the night, but Ted and Cori really were never happier than when they were just hanging out together.
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After the food was finally done cooking, the couple sat down and ate their great meal at the dining room table while their dogs just stared at them, hoping for some scraps. After they were all done eating, Ted cleared the table and took the dishes into the kitchen. One of the dogs, a Rottweiler named Bart, followed him every step of the way.
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After Ted rinsed off the dishes, he joined his wife on the couch in the front room. He draped his arm around her shoulder, and she leaned her head on his chest as they began to watch TV. They spent the night flipping between channels, really only half paying attention. Most of the time, they just talked.
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Talked about things at the jewelry store, and also how their son and his girlfriend seemed to be getting pretty serious. Even though their 19-year-old son only lived about two hours away in College Station, Texas, and they saw him often, it still felt strange to be empty nesters, not to have him in the house anymore.
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Before they knew it, they had spent hours just sitting there talking and they'd both begun to feel tired. So Ted flipped off the TV and the couple headed to their bedroom with both of their trusty dogs trotting along right behind them. A little before 4.45 a.m.
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on March 2nd, 2018, so several hours after Ted and Corey had gone to bed, they both suddenly woke up to the sound of their dogs barking in their room. Ted flipped on the light on his bedside table, and he and his wife looked over and saw their dogs barking away, standing right by the bedroom door. Ted tried to get them to calm down, but they just kept on barking over and over again.
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Ted could see his wife looked frightened, and he was feeling a bit freaked out too. The dogs were both really good guard dogs, and they usually only got agitated when they'd heard something. And so Ted slowly got out of bed, opened the drawer on the bedside table, and pulled out a .45 caliber handgun. He checked to make sure it was loaded, and then told his wife to stay in the room.
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Ted walked over to the door, opened it up, and headed outside. He made his way into the dark kitchen, and Bart the Rottweiler followed right behind. Just a few minutes later, Corey threw open her closet door, jumped inside, and slammed it shut behind her.
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She crouched down in the corner, trying to make herself as small as possible, and as she sat there panting out of breath, she clutched her phone in one hand, and in the other hand, she was holding a .357 caliber revolver. She dialed 911 on her phone and pressed it to her ear, and at the same time, she held the gun out in front of her, aimed at the closet door in case anybody approached her.
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She heard the sound of the emergency operator on the other line, and she said the police needed to get to her house right away. Multiple gunshots had been fired, she didn't know if her husband was even alive at this point, and she said she was sure she would be dead within seconds.
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Fifteen minutes later, so just after 5 a.m., Travis County homicide detectives James Moore and Paul Salo headed up the long walkway toward Ted and Corey's front door.
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By this point, crime scene tape had already been stretched across the large property, several uniformed police officers stood on the lawn, and two officers stood near the front door with Corey, who was there in her nightgown, sobbing. Detectives Moore and Salo introduced themselves to Corey and told her they'd be back to her shortly. Then they put on their gloves and headed inside of her house.
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Just standing in the front room, both detectives got a sense of how big this house was and how many different hallways and paths there were to take. They made their way through the front room and walked into the kitchen, where a team of forensics officers were already searching for evidence. On the floor, sprawled out under the kitchen table, the detectives saw Ted Shaughnessy's body.
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Blood covered his face and his chest. But the detectives also saw something that completely threw them off. Because in the call they got, they'd already been told about Ted being deceased. But they didn't expect to also see his pet dog lying right there with him.
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Bart, the Rottweiler, had clearly been shot and killed, laying just a few feet in front of Ted, like he'd been trying to maybe protect him. One of the forensics officers joined detectives Moore and Salo and pointed out multiple bullet casings littering the kitchen floor.
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In fact, there were so many casings that the detectives thought it looked like a massive shootout had taken place right there in the kitchen. The detectives walked over to the kitchen table and knelt down by Ted's body. Near his outstretched hand, they saw a .45 caliber handgun. Moore checked the magazine and saw it was full. So it appeared like Ted had not fired a single shot from his weapon.
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However, Moore asked the forensics officer if there was any chance that Ted maybe did fire off some shots and actually emptied out a magazine and then reloaded. And then once it was reloaded, maybe he didn't fire again, giving the impression he had not shot at all. Now, Moore didn't think this was likely, but he just wanted to be sure.
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The forensics officer told him they were still looking at everything, but so far, none of the casings they'd found matched the caliber of Ted's gun. So very likely, Ted did not fire a single shot. After spending some time searching the kitchen and also studying Ted's wounds, Moore and Salo began to make their way through the rest of the house.
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They found a home security system that was not armed, and they didn't find any evidence of forced entry at the front, back, or side doors. They thought maybe whoever had killed Ted had been invited inside the home or at the very least had a key. However, as soon as they stepped into one of the bedrooms, they immediately began to rethink that theory.
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Based on the way the room was decorated, it appeared to belong to a young man. But more importantly, when they looked inside this room, they could see that one of the windows was open and the window screen had been removed and dropped down onto the ground just outside. Moore and Salo went back to the kitchen and told the forensics officers what they just found.
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And as members of the forensics team headed to that bedroom, the detectives made their way to the front of the house and walked outside. They saw Ted's wife, Corey, still standing with the two officers. They approached her and gently asked if she was up to answering a few questions. Corey wiped some tears away from her face, but then nodded and said she was.
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Okay, let's get into today's story.
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And so Detective Salo asked her if she could just walk them through what had happened that morning. Corey said that she and her husband had woken up sometime around 4.45am when they heard their dogs barking. Ted had grabbed his gun and walked out with one of the dogs, while she had stayed back in the bedroom with the other dog.
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But then she said she heard gunshots coming from the kitchen, so she grabbed her own gun and ran out of the bedroom. She could hear her husband screaming, but there was also this bright light shining directly at her, making it really hard to see. All she could see were shadows moving around in front of her.
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But then she saw one of these shadows fire a gun and kill one of their dogs, and so instinctively she raised her own gun and unloaded her weapon, trying to hit the shadow. Detective Salo asked her what kind of weapon she had, and Corey said she had a .357 revolver. Salo and Moore looked at each other, but didn't say anything.
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Corey had just admitted she fired her weapon inside the house, and they've just found her husband dead from gunshots. So either she was lying and was making this whole thing up about shadows to cover up her part in the crime, or this really happened. Detective Moore asked Corey if one of the bedrooms in the house belonged to a young man. Corey said they must mean her son's room.
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She said she still had his room, but he was 19 years old now and lived a couple of hours away with his girlfriend, and she'd already asked an officer to call them right after police had arrived, and they were on their way right now. Detective Salo asked Corey if she could give any description of the person she'd fired her gun at, even though it was dark and shadowy.
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Corey shook her head and said no. She figured it was just a burglar. After all, she and Ted were well-known in the area for their jewelry store and for having made a good amount of money. And so they knew they were a target for a robbery. After this, Salo and Moore stepped away from Corey and headed back inside the house. And already, they were starting to question some of Corey's answers.
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Like most spouses in murder cases, Corey was immediately considered a suspect, and the fact that her weapon had been fired in the house only made her a stronger one. On top of that, when she called 911, she said she was hiding in the closet, and she was sure whoever was inside her house was coming for her. But when the police had arrived and done a sweep of the house, nobody was there.
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Finally, Corey had just claimed that she thought this was all a robbery gone bad. However, the detectives had walked through the house and seen stacks of cash, high-end jewelry, and expensive electronics just laying out, untouched. And Corey and Ted's safe did not look like anyone had even tried to break into it. So why would a robber leave without taking a single thing of value?
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Still, the son's bedroom window had been opened, and so if Corey had done that to try to stage things to make it look like a break-in and robbery, she didn't do anything else to the house to back that up.
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The detectives talked this over as they went back to the son's bedroom, and when they walked in, one of the forensics officers had a smile on his face, and he said they had just pulled a really clear fingerprint off the outside of the window, so they hoped that would lead them right to the person who had climbed in. And as Moore and Salo stood there, something began to hit them.
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If somebody did really break into the house through this window, climb into this bedroom, and then make their way all the way to the kitchen, they would almost have to have some previous knowledge of the layout of this place. Because even with all the lights on, this was not an easy house to navigate. It was massive and basically like a big labyrinth.
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So now, the detectives felt almost convinced that even if Ted's wife was not involved, somebody who Ted knew and who had very likely been to this particular house many times must have been his killer. It's officially 2025, and this year I plan on really focusing on my health.
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About an hour later, at an apartment complex in town, Bullard and West crouched in front of the white Audi, looking in confusion at the undercarriage. Just like the black Jeep, there was blood spattered all over the bottom of the Audi. But this did not feel like a breakthrough. It actually didn't make any sense. Did this mean both cars had driven over the body?
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They quickly found the Audi's owner inside of one of the apartments, they told her they were impounding her car, and then brought her to the station to question her. But she told them the same story as the driver of the Jeep, that she'd gone to see the body and then in a panic, driven away when she realized the cops were coming. Bullard and West needed to figure out who was lying.
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And so really, they desperately needed the results from the forensics tests. And the following day, those results came in and the detectives got two huge pieces of news. First, an accident reconstruction specialist said that based on his tests, neither the Jeep nor the Audi had actually hit the teenage boy.
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Instead, the boy's body had been so badly mangled that his blood and brain tissue had basically been spread all across the street. The Jeep and the Audi had simply driven through it, and their wheels splashed it onto their undercarriages. This meant that the students had been telling the truth. They did not hit the dead boy. They really had just gone to see his body and freaked out.
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But this was not the biggest break of the day, because the second piece of news they got came from the medical examiner. He told them that he couldn't determine the cause of death because the boy's body was too badly damaged. However, he said he had found something the detectives had missed.
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Crumpled up deep in one of the boy's pockets was a hall pass, like something a high school student would use to leave class and go to the bathroom. And scrawled in cursive at the top of the hall pass was a name, Delvonte Tisdale. And so now, even though their initial theory seemed to be falling apart, the detectives suddenly had their first truly solid lead.
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Their victim, who now had a name, was a high schooler. So, over the next several days, with the help from multiple police departments, Bullard and West contacted high schools throughout Massachusetts and the nearby state of Rhode Island. But not one school had a record of a Delvonte Tisdale. It was like this kid didn't exist.
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And so Bullard and West began to wonder if maybe Delvante didn't go to school in the area, maybe he was just in town visiting someone. If that was the case, he could be from any high school anywhere. So police put out a call to major media markets across the country asking anyone for information on this young man. And it didn't take long before Bullard got a call from a police officer.
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This officer had been working a missing persons case for a couple of days looking for a 16-year-old boy named Delvante Tisdale. However, this Delvonte Tisdale lived almost a thousand miles away in Charlotte, North Carolina. But the timing between when the Delvonte in North Carolina went missing and when the Delvonte in Massachusetts was discovered made no sense.
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The Charlotte police officer said the Delvonte Tisdale he and his team were looking for had been seen in Charlotte on the same day that Bullard and West later found the body in Milton, Massachusetts. If this was the case, and if this really was the same Delvante, he would have had to travel almost a thousand miles and been killed and dumped in the span of maybe 12 hours? It just seemed impossible.
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And so the investigators all began to wonder if this was just a very strange coincidence and there really were two Delvante Tisdales. But when they compared the fingerprints of the body in Massachusetts and the missing boy in North Carolina, they found that they matched. About a week after Delvante's body had been discovered, detectives Bullard and West flew from Massachusetts to North Carolina.
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And along with local police, they met Delvante's family at their house. And just like the police, Delvante's family could not believe what they were hearing. How could Delvante have died almost a thousand miles away from home? Delvante's father and brother said they did not have any connections in Milton or in Boston. And on top of that, they said Delvante was like the perfect kid.
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He did great in school and he was a respected member of the ROTC. Nobody wanted to hurt him. Investigators asked the family if they remembered what Delvante was wearing the last time they saw him. Because when Delvante was found, all he had on were jeans and they were all torn up. And so police thought if they could find his missing clothing, it might lead them to whoever had done this.
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Delvante's brother said he'd seen him wearing jeans, a red shirt, and Nike tennis shoes. As West continued talking to Delvante's dad and brother and writing everything they said down, Bullard decided to go search Delvante's room to see if he could find anything else that might help. And as he walked down the hallway, he heard footsteps behind him. When he turned, he saw Delvante's younger sister.
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Bullard was about to ask if the girl was okay when she spoke. In a quiet, trembling voice, she said her father was not telling the whole story. Bullard could clearly see the girl was nervous, so he assured her that he was there to help and that she could tell him anything she knew.
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That night, Bullard and West flew back home and started trying to piece together what they had learned in Charlotte and what Delvante's younger sister had told Bullard. it would turn out, at least according to Delvante's younger sister, that their father was really strict with Delvante, and for some reason, their father really hated Delvante being a part of the ROTC.
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And so Delvante's sister believed there was a good chance that Delvante had run away from home because of this, and that he very likely wanted to go live with their mother in Baltimore, Maryland. Now, the detectives thought this potential conflict with his father could definitely have given Delvante a reason for wanting to run away to his mom's house.
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But it didn't solve the bigger mystery, which was how or why Delvante could have ended up dead in the middle of a road in Massachusetts so soon after he'd been seen in North Carolina. And when the detectives reached out to Delvante's mom, she had no idea if the story about Delvante leaving his house to come possibly see her was even true.
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This revelation, and really everything surrounding this investigation, frustrated West and Bullard. On the night they had found the body and then met the college students in the street, this had felt like a relatively straightforward case, and that was even before they knew who their victim was. Now they had way more information, but none of it fit together, and they had no suspects at all.
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And so they went back and reviewed statements from the college girls and Delvante's family, and they also combed through the autopsy report, looking for anything that could possibly point them in the right direction. When they didn't find anything new that jumped out at them, they headed back to the street where Delvante had been found.
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They searched the neighborhood again and the woods that surrounded the area. They even checked out the Batcave, the popular drinking and smoking spot. But they found nothing at all that gave them any ideas about what might have happened to Delvante. which left them almost exactly where they'd been on the first night of the investigation.
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All they had for evidence was a badly mangled body, a bunch of tiny broken pieces of plastic they'd found in the road next to the body, and a missing red shirt and a missing pair of Nike tennis shoes. And so feeling totally frustrated at this point, detectives Bullard and West just did a Google Earth search of the entire area around the Milton neighborhood.
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They hoped that maybe this way they would find some hidden secret route that could have led Delvante to this street on the night of his death. And amazingly, as they looked at some of these images online, the detectives both began thinking the same thing.
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There was one possible hidden route that would explain how Delvante ended up in that street without anybody seeing him, but it was so insane that it bordered on impossible. and they were almost embarrassed to say the theory out loud.
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In fact, this theory was so convoluted and improbable that they decided before they could say anything about it publicly, they needed to search one very specific area they'd seen in the Google Earth images to look for very specific pieces of evidence. If they didn't find this evidence there, they would never publicize this theory.
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But if they did find the evidence, they could actually crack the case. A little more than two weeks later, so in December of 2010, two investigators sent by Bullard and West walked through the dense woods of the Blue Hills Reservation, which was a forest a couple of miles from where Delvante's body had been found.
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Both of these investigators felt like they were on a wild goose chase, but an assignment was an assignment, so they did as they were told, and walked slowly and methodically through the underbrush with their eyes glued to the ground. And after hours of fruitless searching, one of the officers suddenly stopped cold and pointed to something just a few feet away from them.
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The two officers looked at each other like they couldn't believe this trip deep into the woods might actually pay off. They took a few steps closer to the object and there on the ground was the evidence they had been sent out to find. They quickly bagged the evidence, hiked out of the woods and headed right to the Milton Police Department.
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Detectives Bullard and West took one look at what these other investigators had found, and they both felt this huge rush of adrenaline. This was the exact evidence they had been looking for in the exact spot they hoped it would be. Which meant their crazy theory had just solved the case.
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Back on the night of November 15th, 2010, when detectives Bullard and West were called to the scene and they saw Delvante's body on the road and a group of young women arguing with each other around a parked Jeep, they believed they had several strong suspects and a pile of evidence in this murder case.
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and it would turn out all of the evidence they had found at the scene, as well as throughout the investigation, did lead them to crack the case.
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But after Bullard and West visited North Carolina and then came back home to piece together all of their evidence, they came to realize that Delvante's final night alive just did not play out like they had first suspected, because the evidence didn't mean what they thought it did. Those small pieces of broken plastic that Bullard found around Delvante's body were not from a credit card.
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They were from a pass for a shuttle bus in North Carolina. The loud bang that the two guys had heard while working in their driveway was not the sound of the white Audi backfiring. Instead, it was the sound of something very heavy slamming against the road at a very high speed. And Delvante's clothing was the key to the whole thing.
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because Delvante's missing red shirt and Nike tennis shoes were the evidence that those investigators were searching for out in Blue Hills. And when they found them, Bullard and West realized their crazy theory was correct. Because once the detectives had come back from North Carolina, they could only come up with one way Delvante could have been in both states in such a short period of time.
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He must have flown. But taking a flight did not explain how he ended up dead in the middle of some random residential street. And that's when they came up with their new theory. They did their Google Earth search and realized the street where they found Delvante happened to be directly beneath the flight path that airplanes take when flying into Boston Logan Airport.
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And so with the help from other law enforcement agencies, they expanded their search all along this flight path. And that included the Forest of Blue Hills where Delvante's clothes were found. It would turn out that on the day Delvante was found dead, Delvante did run away from home in Charlotte, North Carolina.
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But he didn't try to get a ride to his mom's house in Baltimore or to any other friend or family member's house. Instead, he used a shuttle service from a hotel to get to the Charlotte airport. There, he crept through a damaged spot in the fence around the tarmac and climbed into the wheel well of an airplane, a plane that happened to be flying to Boston later that night.
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The wheel well was a dark, tight space about the size of the trunk of an average car, maybe a bit smaller, and it was filled with electrical equipment. And Delvante, once inside, just sat and waited for the plane to take off.
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But Delvante didn't realize that flying in a plane not in the cabin, for example, like in the wheel well where people are not supposed to be, is violent and extremely dangerous. And so when the plane he had smuggled himself into began speeding down the runway, Delvante would have been pressed up against a metal wall inside of the space, almost to the point of being crushed.
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And when the plane actually took off and left the ground, and the landing gear retracted into the wheel well, it would have caused an intense amount of heat in that space. And then as the plane climbed higher and higher, oxygen levels would have dropped significantly. Delvante would have struggled to breathe and eventually passed out. He very likely would have died fairly early on in the flight.
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However, his body would have remained stuck in the wheel well behind the landing gear until about two hours later, when the plane began its descent into Boston. When the landing gear lowered, when the plane was somewhere over Milton, Massachusetts, Delvante's dead body came tumbling out and fell 1,500 feet through the air.
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The loud bang sound the two young guys in Milton heard that they thought was the sound of the Audi backfiring? That wasn't. That was the sound of Delvante's body hitting the pavement. The discovery of what really happened to Delvante left his family heartbroken and totally confused.
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They just couldn't understand how a teenage boy was able to sneak onto the runway of a major airport, climb into a plane's wheel well without airport security noticing. Eventually, the family would sue the city of Charlotte for damages. However, the case was dismissed.
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And so, despite movies and TV shows sometimes portraying people stowing away inside of a plane's wheel well and surviving the flight, the Delvante Tisdell story is proof that you can't. A quick note about our stories, they are all based on true events, but we sometimes use pseudonyms to protect the people involved and some details are fictionalized for dramatic purposes.
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Now, these were two veteran detectives, but neither of them had ever seen the type of brutal violence that had clearly been inflicted on this young man. His legs looked shattered, his jeans had been ripped to shreds, and his face was bruised and broken. The detectives felt sure this young man had been murdered, but because he had no ID on him, they didn't know who he was.
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On the night of November 15, 2010, a 16-year-old boy named Delvante Tisdale curled his body into a tight ball and inched forward, deeper into the dark, cramped chamber where he was hiding. He tried to take deep breaths and stay calm, but he was scared. He felt the chamber lurch and shudder, and he realized he was moving.
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It was really cold, and Delvante started to shiver, so he pulled his knees tighter to his body. He had never felt so completely and totally alone in his whole life. Delvante knew no one from his family was out looking for him. Why would they be? It was normal for him to be out of the house for hours at a time, even on the weekends.
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Delvante was a standout high school student who got good grades and was involved in several extracurricular activities. He also spent a lot of time with his Reserve Officers Training Corps, or ROTC group, which is a club for students who are interested in the military. Delvante dreamed of joining the United States Air Force after graduation, and he figured ROTC would help him achieve that.
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But all that meant right now was that his father and his siblings most likely figured he was doing something for ROTC, so they wouldn't be worried about him at all. Suddenly, Delvante felt the movement of the chamber accelerate. Then he heard a loud noise, his whole body shook, and he felt a burst of heat on his face. Delvante raised his hands to protect his head, but it was no use.
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A loud roar shook the chamber and seemed to envelop his whole body, and all he could do was squeeze his eyes shut as he began to fall forward. Later that same night, six female college students paced frantically back and forth in the middle of a tree-lined road in the Boston suburb of Milton, Massachusetts. They were all shouting and crying and staring at something in the middle of the road.
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The object was lit up by the headlights of a black Jeep one of the students had been driving, which was now parked behind them. One of the students kept repeating that they needed to do something fast, while one of the others screamed at her to stop talking. Then they heard another car coming down the road. One of the students took off, disappearing into the darkness, but the others just froze.
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The approaching car stopped behind the Jeep, and a man got out and asked if they were okay. For a second, nobody replied. Then one of the students lowered her head and pointed towards the middle of the road behind her. The man walked past her and the parked Jeep and looked down at the ground, and he immediately felt sick to his stomach.
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Detective Lewis Bullard of the Milton Police drove towards the stretch of road where the students with the jeep had gathered and the man had stopped. Bullard could see the flashing blue and red lights of police cars and ambulances ahead of him, illuminating the expensive homes that lined the street.
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He had been surprised when he got a frantic call from dispatch telling him to get to this part of town. This affluent neighborhood almost never saw police activity. The only time Bullard really ever came out this way was when neighbors called to report high schoolers and college students, you know, for smoking pot and drinking in the secluded hangout spot the kids called the Batcave.
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However, when they did finally discover his identity, this case would take a totally bizarre turn. The detectives would find themselves a thousand miles away from their crime scene, sifting through reported sightings of their victim that defied the laws of physics, and also grasping at an insane theory that they hoped could somehow tie it all together.
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But the dispatcher had made it clear that this 911 call was about something way bigger than marijuana. Bullard parked his car on the road and stepped outside. He was young, with a shaved head, and he was built like a football player. He saw a couple of officers standing with five young women and a man on the side of the road.
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And a few feet away from them, in the middle of the road near a black Jeep, he saw his partner, Lieutenant Bill West. Bullard turned on his flashlight and jogged over towards the Jeep. Lieutenant West turned to him with a dazed look on his face. Bullard shined his flashlight on the ground and saw right away why West was so shocked.
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Because there, on the pavement, lay the body of a mutilated teenage boy. It seemed clear to both Bullard and West that the boy had been murdered, but the trauma inflicted on him was so brutal that they couldn't begin to imagine how he had been killed. The boy's torso was scraped and badly bruised, his face was mangled almost beyond recognition, and his legs were obviously broken.
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He had no shirt on, and his jeans had been almost completely shredded. The detectives slipped on their gloves, crouched down, and began digging through the teenager's jean pockets, looking for a wallet or a license, but they didn't find anything. Then, something on the road glinted in Bullard's flashlight. He leaned down further and saw several small pieces of plastic near the teenager's legs.
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He gestured to his partner to come look, and the two investigators stared at the plastic for several minutes. The pieces looked like they all came from the same object, but it was like this bizarre jigsaw puzzle, so they couldn't tell what the object was. Bullard suggested it might be a credit card that had been cut up, but even as he said it out loud, he knew it didn't make any sense.
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Why would a killer cut up a credit card into a bunch of tiny pieces and then leave the pieces behind as potential clues? Regardless, they bagged up the plastic pieces as evidence to send to the crime lab for analysis. The detectives did a thorough search of the scene and then took another look at the young man's body to make sure they hadn't missed anything.
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And when they looked this time, they did notice something. They saw there were thick road burns on the young man's legs and side. And those burns, along with the other massive injuries they were seeing, helped the detectives form an initial theory. This young man must have been run over by a car and then dragged down the street.
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Detective Bullard stood up and walked over to the college students who had been found pacing around the body. These five young women were his primary suspects at the moment. After all, they believed this boy had been run over and dragged to death, and the jeep the students were driving had been parked only feet from the body.
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When Bullard introduced himself and asked them what happened, the students all started talking at once. They began telling him about this party they were going to when they saw something in the road. They said they got out and that's when they found the body. And that was it. They said it was just one big coincidence. Detective Bullard nodded, but he remained skeptical.
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When they finally stopped talking, he asked for just one of them to explain why, if they really had just stumbled onto the teenager's body and were not involved in his death at all. Well, why had they not immediately called 911? They were adults with cell phones. Why did the man who pulled up behind them find them shouting at each other on the road instead of trying to get help?
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And after he said this, the students all got quiet. Finally, the driver of the Jeep mumbled that they were just too freaked out to do anything. Bullard kept nodding, but he didn't really believe her. His voice got sharper, and he asked if any of them knew the victim. After all, the boy looked like he was about their age.
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They all shook their heads, but Bullard noticed that none of them were looking him in the eye. Bullard told the women to wait there, and then he stepped away to join Lieutenant West, who was standing by the Jeep that the students had been driving.
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But before Bullard could tell West that he thought these students were holding back information, West knelt down next to the Jeep and motioned for Bullard to do the same. Then West flashed his light onto the Jeep's undercarriage. And there Bullard could clearly see blood and brain matter on the bottom of the car that the students had been driving.
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Now it really felt like they were getting somewhere. At this point, the detectives felt like these kids very likely had something to do with this teenage boy's death. However, they were not ready to make an arrest yet. The next step was just to have the accident reconstruction team run some tests. But also keep an eye on these students because they could become suspects down the road.
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Detective Bullard stood up and walked back over to the students. He told them he was impounding their vehicle. He then arranged for an officer to take them back to their college campus nearby, and he told them not to leave town.
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Later that night, after the body had been removed from the scene and taken to the medical examiner, Detectives Bullard and West went door to door in the neighborhood asking if anybody had seen or heard something strange that night.
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and a few houses into their search, the detectives met two young guys who said that earlier that night, before any of the commotion began, they had been working on a car in the driveway when they heard this loud bang. They had both looked around, but the street looked exactly like it always did, except that an unfamiliar car had just pulled up and parked.
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So they just figured the car had backfired, and that was the sound they heard. So they finished up their work in the driveway, went back into the house, and didn't think anything about it. It wasn't until at least a half hour later that they heard shouting in the street and police started showing up. For a second, Bullard and West were excited.
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Maybe the car they saw on the street was the black Jeep the students had been driving and the bang they heard was the sound of the Jeep impacting the boy. But when they asked the men what kind of car it was, they both said it was an Audi. The detectives pressed, asking if it could have been possible that it was a black Jeep instead, but the men just laughed.
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Mistaking an Audi for a Jeep was not something they would do. Plus, the Audi was white, not black. As the detectives walked away from the men, they exchanged a look. They weren't quite sure what to make of this report of the white Audi. It certainly did not prove their theory that the college students in the black cheap hit their victim. However, it didn't disprove it either.
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Still, Bullard quickly issued a BOLO for the white Audi, which is a be on the lookout order that goes to police and media in the area. Bullard had no idea if anything would come from it. It was entirely possible that the Audi had nothing to do with the dead boy on the road. But the following morning, after the local news had run a story on the white Audi, Detective Bullard got a call at his desk.
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Now, if you're a fan of our YouTube channel, the Mr. Ball and Official channel, you know that I have told several stories on there that revolve around places you can't go and people who went there anyways. Well, today's new show concept is basically that, but for audio. So if you enjoyed today's episode, let us know because we will do more of them.
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And when he answered, he heard the driver of the black Jeep from the night before. And in a shaking voice, she told Bullard that she and her friends had lied to him. A few hours later, Detectives West and Bullard sat down with the driver of the Jeep inside of an interview room at the police station. Bullard had a serious look on his face, but he didn't want to scare the driver into clamming up.
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So when he spoke, he spoke in a calm, almost soothing voice. He asked the driver to tell him what really happened. When the driver began to speak, she couldn't look Bullard in the eye. She said that they had not really just stumbled onto the body like they had claimed. Instead, they had all been hanging out at their dorm when another friend of theirs had called.
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And the first thing this friend had said was, "'Do you guys want to go see a dead body?' The driver couldn't explain to Bullard why she and the others had raced out to go see it. Maybe they were bored, or maybe it was just morbid curiosity. But as she spoke, she wiped tears from her eyes.
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She said that when they all got out to the body in the middle of the road, the friend who had called them about the body was standing there waiting for them. And as soon as the group saw the body, somebody shouted that they needed to call 911, but the other friend who had called them panicked.
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This other friend had been getting high at a nearby spot known as the Bat Cave, and at the mention of 911, she began to worry that the cops were going to bust her. So she ran off, got into her white Audi, and drove away. And shortly after that is when the man pulled up behind them, got out of his car, and he called 911. Bullard and West just stared at this young woman.
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On one hand, she did seem genuine. After all, she had called them. And she was admitting openly to some pretty reprehensible behavior. But on the other hand, her story didn't explain the blood and brain they had found on the bottom of her Jeep.
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Still, the detectives had to wait for results from tests the forensics team was running on the jeep before they could know for sure if the jeep, and the young woman sitting in front of them, had actually hit the victim. So, West just told the driver that, if this really is your true story, then we need to speak to the owner of that white Audi.
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In a trembling voice, the young woman then told them where they could find her friend. Are you ready to jumpstart your health in 2025? Well, Lumen can help. Even though 80% of New Year's resolutions fail by February, you can beat the odds with Lumen. Lumen is the world's first handheld metabolic coach. It's a device that measures your metabolism through your breath.
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Today's story is about a woman who goes missing from a psychiatric hospital in 1900. Now, at first, this story will seem like a pretty ordinary missing persons case. That is, until you reach the very end. Let's just say this story has one heck of a plot twist.
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The student felt his heart speed up because in the center of the operating room, he saw a table covered with a bright white sheet and he knew that underneath that sheet, there was a dead body. He and his fellow medical students had come to the operating theater today to watch a skilled surgeon dissect a real human corpse.
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This demonstration was, at the time, one of the only ways that doctors in training could gain a better understanding of human anatomy. And it was considered a huge privilege for them to get to witness something like this. The sound of footsteps echoed from below, and immediately the audience fell silent.
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The student saw the surgeon approach the operating table, and he listened closely as the surgeon explained what they could all expect to see during this demonstration. Then the student watched as the surgeon stepped up to the operating table and removed the white sheet, revealing the pale face of the corpse underneath, with a gold tooth glinting from its open mouth.
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The student had expected to feel amazement when he saw the body, but instead he felt an unsettling wave of deja vu. Something about the corpse's face looked familiar to him, but he just couldn't place it. Then suddenly it just came to him and he yelled it out without even meaning to. It's the missing woman, he shouted.
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Some of his classmates laughed uncomfortably thinking maybe he was making a very bad joke, but the surgeon called for quiet and asked the student what he was talking about. The student stood up and said he would recognize that face anywhere. The woman on the table was Carrie Selvidge, the same Carrie Selvidge who had disappeared from the psychiatric hospital a couple years ago.
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Her photograph had been plastered all over the city. Suddenly, all the other students in the operating theater all began talking at once as they leaned forward to get a better look. They all remembered the missing woman, whose brother had given what felt like 50 interviews. And they agreed. The corpse on the table looked just like Carrie, down to the gold tooth.
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Eventually, the surgeon called out to the students to quiet down and clear out of the operating theater. The surgeon had no idea if the med student was right, but he was not about to continue with this demonstration until he checked. A few hours later, Detectives Manning and Ash stood in the operating theater with the surgeon, Carrie's brother Joseph, and Carrie's dentist.
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All the men stared at the body on the table, and they all had the same reaction. It could be Carrie, but they weren't sure. The medical school had not kept great records on when it actually acquired these bodies. This particular one was slightly decomposed and had been frozen for a long time.
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The dentist eventually spoke up and said the gold filling was the same kind he'd used for Carrie, and it was in the exact same spot in her mouth. At this, detectives Manning and Ash walked away from the table and huddled together in a corner to whisper to each other, occasionally taking a look back to make sure nobody, especially not Joseph, was listening.
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They did this because what they were discussing was incredibly upsetting. Manning and Ash knew that medical schools and hospitals had a hard time acquiring dead bodies for research through legal means, so these institutions often turned to the black market and grave robbers for their supply.
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In fact, during the initial investigation, they had worried that Carrie might have been the victim of grave robbers who were known to occasionally commit murder in order to increase their supply of dead bodies. Now, the detectives knew they were going to have to step into this dark, bizarre world of grave robbers to get answers.
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And there was one man in particular they were going to have to talk to. His name was Rufus Cantrell, but the media and the police called him the King of Ghouls. Rufus Cantrell was actually already in jail, so it was easy for Manning and Ash to find him.
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In just a few hours after they had stood over the corpse in the operating theater, they walked into an office in the jail and sat down at a table across from the man they thought could break their case open for them. Now, Rufus had a reputation for being violent and sort of unhinged, so the detectives were surprised that he was in a very relaxed, almost jovial mood when they met him.
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He told Manning and Ash that he would help them in any way he could. Manning was suspicious of this level of cooperation, but he still told Rufus all about the dead woman in the operating theater, doing his best to describe the woman's appearance and her teeth. Rufus nodded along as Manning spoke, and then when Manning was done, Rufus said he knew exactly who the detective was talking about.
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That was the woman who'd gone missing from the psychiatric hospital over two years ago. Manning looked at Rufus skeptically and asked how he could be so sure. And then he watched as a wide, unsettling smile spread across the King of Ghouls' face. Rufus said he was sure because members of the grave robbing gang he was a part of had murdered her.
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At this, Manning and Ash just stood there, staring in shock at the grave robber in front of them. The detectives had come here expecting a very confrontational interview, not an immediate and creepily cheerful confession. They actually didn't even know what to say. So after a moment of silence, Rufus just kept on talking. He said he personally had not had anything to do with the murder.
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All he knew was that his band of grave robbers had spotted a woman in a blue dress wandering along a country road and decided she was an easy target. And they had been right. They had attacked her and then dragged her to a house they worked out of in the city. And once they got there, they clubbed her to death and then put out the word in their network that they had a fresh body for sale.
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Rupa said that was when he had found out about this, around the time they were actually trying to sell the body. He said that all he had done was actually help arrange the sale of Carrie Selvidge's body to the hospital. And then after her body had been sold, it would sit frozen for two full years until finally, today, it had been scheduled for dissection.
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Detectives Manning and Ash left the jail feeling a bit blindsided. They knew there were countless reasons not to trust Rufus. He was already in jail, for one thing, and probably thought that talking to detectives, especially about a case they were really interested in, might get him out.
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On the morning of March 11, 1900, 43-year-old Carrie Selvidge stared out her bedroom window into the front yard of the building where she lived in Indianapolis, Indiana. The sun shined bright on her face, but it was surprisingly cold for March, and there was a chill in Carrie's room. She wore a heavy flannel blue dress and slippers, but she still shivered as she stood by the window.
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And then there was the fact that this guy, Rufus, had literally sold dead bodies on the black market, and he was possibly a total psychopath. But the murder scenario Rufus had outlined was something the detectives themselves had considered.
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And in the weeks following that interview, the detectives actually had Rufus lead them, along with Carrie's brother Joseph, to the house where Rufus claimed the murder took place. And there they would find a club, as well as pieces of women's clothing.
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So, although Manning and Ash still remained skeptical of Rufus' story, the King of Ghouls had given them just enough evidence to finally close the case. Carrie Selvidge was officially declared dead. But there was just one problem, and that was that Carrie's brother, Joseph, absolutely refused to believe it.
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Now, Joseph didn't have a good alternate theory about what happened to his sister, but the grave robber story made no sense to him. Carrie had bad eyesight and she was generally nervous and unhappy, but she wasn't stupid. She had grown up in the city and knew not to wander alone at night down country roads.
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Plus, he knew Rufus had gotten a lighter sentence in return for his story and cooperation, so how true could it really be? And also, part of Joseph just wanted to believe that his sister had escaped the hospital and found the freedom she so desperately wanted and was now off living happily and choosing not to let anyone find her.
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And Joseph would hold onto this belief for a long time until... On April 26th, 1920, so over 20 years after Carrie's disappearance. On that day, Joseph got an urgent and confusing telephone call from the police at his home. An officer said he'd heard from a construction company that was working on a building in town.
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It was an orphanage that they were converting to an automobile repair shop, and this construction crew had found something that Joseph just needed to see. Joseph ended the call and headed straight to the building, having no idea what he was about to find. Once outside the orphanage, Joseph walked past several construction workers and then stepped inside the building.
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Right away, he heard somebody call his name, and he looked over to see a man with thinning white hair walking towards him. Joseph squinted, looked at the man's face, and then suddenly he recognized him. It was Detective Manning. Now Joseph felt a jolt of adrenaline. Whatever this was, it had to be about his sister.
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Joseph asked Manning if Detective Ash was here too, but Manning just shook his head and said no, Ash had passed away a few years earlier. Before the two men could really talk, they were joined by a member of the construction crew, who handed the Meech a flashlight and gestured for them to follow him.
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As Joseph walked through the building, he could see that the construction crew had already made a lot of progress. But it still looked like parts of the building hadn't changed in decades. And it was one of these old, untouched areas of the building where this crew member led Joseph and Manning.
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And when they got there, a crew member pointed to an old stairwell set against a wall, signaling for Joseph to climb up the stairs. Joseph hesitated, but only for a second. Then he took a deep breath and slowly walked up the steps. When he reached the top, he found himself standing in a dark, narrow hallway with a low ceiling that made him feel totally claustrophobic.
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Carrie heard footsteps behind her. She turned and saw a young woman standing there. Carrie smiled, exposing her gold filling and several false teeth that she barely even noticed anymore. The young woman smiled back and then put her hand on Carrie's shoulder. To someone walking by, this might have looked like two friends enjoying the view outside the window. But that's not what was happening here.
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Joseph bent down, but it still felt like the ceiling was pressing in on him. And as he walked down this hallway, shining his flashlight from side to side, it almost looked like the walls were closing in. Joseph felt his chest tightening. This place was cramped and pitch black. And even though he knew it was ridiculous, he had this feeling like he could get stuck here.
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But finally, his light caught something at the end of the hallway. It was a small door built into the wall ahead of him. And it looked just big enough for him to fit through. Joseph reached the end of the hall and caught his breath. Then he opened the door and squeezed through. He stumbled forward and found himself inside of a cold, damp room that was only about four feet by six feet.
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But unlike the hallway, it wasn't dark and stuffy. Instead, sunlight flooded this room through two windows. It was bright and the air was fresh. Joseph flipped off his flashlight and began turning in a slow circle, surveying the room. and halfway through the circle, he froze. At this moment, Joseph knew he had been right for decades. That grave robber, the king of ghouls, Rufus Cantrell, had lied.
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The body on that table in the operating theater had not been his sister's. Because leaning against the wall inside of the small room, Joseph saw the skeletal remains of a woman with tattered pieces of a blue flannel dress clinging to her bones and two old slippers lying at her feet. Joseph turned away from the skeleton towards the window. Through it, he could see almost the entire city.
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And Joseph started crying. Because now he understood that as much as he'd wanted to believe it, his sister Carrie had never escaped and found her freedom. because it would turn out that the orphanage that Joseph had come to, where he climbed the old stairwell and found his sister's body, had once been the Union State Hospital, the psychiatric institution where Carrie had been committed.
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The hospital had shut down not long after Carrie disappeared, and the building had been used for several different things in the years that followed. And now, the construction crew that was converting it into an automobile repair shop had discovered this old staircase by accident. And that staircase led to a tiny hidden room that was located up above the attic and that had windows to the outside.
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Joseph and the detectives had searched the hospital attic on the day Carrie went missing, but they hadn't noticed the staircase. So they didn't know that Carrie had actually been right there just above them the whole time. The official report on Carrie's death would later conclude that her terrible eyesight had led her to become lost and wind up in this room and not know how to get out again.
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And then she froze to death. But as always, Joseph did not accept the official statement. In fact, he would spend years coming up with theories of his own. But there was one theory that couldn't be ignored. And that was that maybe Carrie didn't get confused and stuck inside the room because she couldn't see. Maybe when she crawled into that secret room, she had known exactly what she was doing.
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Because Carrie had almost certainly been alive throughout the entire search of the hospital. Staff, police, and her own brother had been just feet away. But she never once called out or made any noise. So maybe Carrie had just decided to sit there quietly, looking out the window and across the city where she'd once been free.
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And when night fell and she felt that bitter cold coming on, she chose to stay in that room. The only place she knew where she could be on her own and where nobody would tell her what she could and couldn't do. On April 30th, 1920, four days after the discovery of her remains, Carrie Selvidge was buried next to her mother and finally laid to rest.
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Because the building where Carrie lived was not her home. It was the Union State Hospital, a turn-of-the-century sanitarium, which today would be called a psychiatric hospital. Carrie was a patient, and the young woman standing with Carrie was a nurse, whose job was to keep an eye on Carrie basically all the time. And Carrie hated it here.
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As for the two witnesses who said they had seen Carrie basically right after she had gone missing, running down the street, had simply been mistaken. And the dead woman who had been on the operating table at the Westside Medical Clinic was never identified.
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Up until a year ago, Carrie had been a school teacher, saving money and building a life for herself. But over time, Carrie had become overwhelmed and sad, and she couldn't even explain why. She felt tired, but she struggled to sleep, and there were days when she just felt sort of frozen, like she couldn't leave the house.
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Doctors couldn't find anything physically wrong with Carrie other than some problems with her vision and her teeth. So, the doctors did something that was unfortunately pretty common at this time for women. They diagnosed Carrie with hysteria and told her family to put her in an institution. That was how Carrie had lost her teaching job and her freedom and ended up living here at Union State.
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Now, in Carrie's room, the nurse told her that she had to go check on another patient. She told Carrie not to go anywhere until she got back. Carrie nodded and watched the nurse walk out of the room and close the door behind her. Once Carrie was alone again, she turned back to the window and looked outside.
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Her eyesight was terrible, so the view was not clear, but she could still make out people down below on the sidewalk walking past her. They looked like little blurs, but she watched each one for as long as she could. She felt jealous of these people, out walking by themselves.
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But before we get into that story, if you're a fan of the Strange, Dark and Mysterious delivered in story format, then you've come to the right podcast because that's all we do and we upload twice a week, once on Monday and once on Thursday, as well as this very special episode of a new format I'm calling You Can't.
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Carrie desperately wanted to go somewhere on her own, where nurses and doctors weren't hovering over her every few minutes and telling her what she could and couldn't do. She pressed her face up against the window, picturing the city she had once known so well. The streetcar rolling down its tracks, people rushing off to work, her students yelling and laughing in the schoolyard.
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And as she was having these thoughts, something else suddenly popped into her mind. She believed there was one particular place where if she could just get there, she could once again experience the freedom she longed for. Just then, Carrie turned away from the window and walked over to her door. She opened the door halfway and leaned her head out, making sure nobody was in the hallway.
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Once she was sure the coast was clear, Carrie took a breath, lowered her head, and walked out of her room. About five minutes later, that same nurse came back to Carrie's room and opened the door. But now, Carrie's room was empty. The nurse walked over to the closet, opened the door, and checked inside, but Carrie wasn't in there either. The nurse wasn't alarmed. She was annoyed.
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Carrie had run away once before, and this nurse knew that if it happened again, she was going to have to explain why she left Carrie alone. The nurse checked the porch, where she knew Carrie liked to spend time, but it was also empty. She told herself what must have happened was a doctor came by and took Carrie somewhere.
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But when this nurse tracked down all the doctors on the shift, they all said the same thing. They hadn't seen Carrie all morning. Now, this nurse was starting to panic. She worried that Carrie might have tried to walk somewhere on her own and gotten completely lost because of her terrible eyesight.
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And so, not knowing what else to do, the nurse ran to the front desk and said she needed help right away because Carrie Selvidge had disappeared. At 6 p.m. that night, so about eight hours after Carrie had stepped out of her room, her younger brother Joseph walked into the lobby of Union State Hospital. And it was pure chaos.
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Joseph saw doctors, nurses, and administrators walking as quickly as they could down one hall and into another, and everybody looked frantic. But nobody had contacted Joseph, so he did not know what was going on. He eventually flagged down a nurse and told her he was there to visit his sister, and that's when the nurse told him. His sister Carrie was missing. Joseph felt a pang of fear.
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He asked the nurse sharply what she meant. The nurse was clearly nervous as she explained that Carrie had wandered off. But she rushed to tell Joseph the entire staff believed that Carrie was probably still on the grounds, so there was no real need to worry. Joseph stared at the nurse with his mouth open. He was shocked, but more than that, he was mad.
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If you're a fan of my YouTube channel, you know that I've told several stories that revolve around places you can't go and people who went there anyways. And I decided to tell some stories like that here on this podcast. but a little different. These are stories with some very unique twists, like today's.
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He had felt terrible for his big sister that she had ended up in this hospital in the first place, and he hadn't given up hope that she could maybe recover and return to the life that she had been building. He knew she was unhappy here, and now she was potentially in danger. Joseph collected himself enough to speak and said to the nurse, go get the police.
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Later that night, Detectives Chauncey Manning and Adolph Ashe of the Indianapolis Police Department arrived at Union State Hospital. Both men wore dark, well-tailored suits and hats. They were experienced investigators and had worked as partners on a range of cases. The detectives quickly met with the medical staff, who gave them a rundown of Carrie's known movements.
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The detectives also found Carrie's brother, Joseph, standing in a common room by the porch. He had refused to go home and was insisting that he wanted to be part of the search. Because no one had actually seen Carrie leave, the detectives decided the first priority was to search the hospital itself, even though staff had already looked.
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So, with Joseph and several other hospital employees following them, detectives Manning and Ash checked every patient's room one by one, including the closets, Then, after they did not find Carrie, they walked through the common areas and offices, bending down to search behind every piece of furniture.
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And when that didn't work, lastly they searched the stairways and took oil lamps up to the attic. But again, there was no sign of Carrie. Finally, Detective Manning told Joseph that they couldn't do much more tonight, but he promised that they would resume and expand their search for his sister first thing in the morning.
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What they didn't tell Joseph was that if Carrie had truly wandered off the hospital grounds and out into the city, then she was in very serious danger. Like other major cities, Indianapolis had its share of crime. Pickpockets and thieves were common, and violence against women was a growing problem. Carrie would be an easy target.
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But beyond that, at this particular moment, the city was also dealing with a truly bizarre rash of crimes. a gang of grave robbers were digging up bodies and then selling them on the black market to hospitals and universities that use the bodies for medical research.
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And in some cases, if a fresh body was required, these gangs would take things into their own hands and actually commit murder in order to provide that body.
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They aren't going to be the exact same type of stories you're used to hearing on YouTube, but trust me, you will remember these. And if it seems like people enjoy this particular format, we will continue to add them periodically on this podcast, just to give you even more of the Mr. Ballin stories that you love.
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On the morning of March 12th, so still less than 24 hours after Carrie had gone missing, detectives Manning and Ash, along with a group of uniformed police officers, began canvassing the surrounding neighborhood outside of the hospital, hoping they weren't already too late. And pretty quickly, they began finding witnesses.
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A young boy who'd been outside at the time when Carrie had disappeared said he did see a woman in a blue dress, just like the one Carrie was wearing, running down the street right across from the hospital. And a woman who lived nearby said she'd also seen the woman wandering down the street a couple blocks away.
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Now, this information didn't make it any clearer where Carrie was right now, but it at least gave the detectives some hope that they were finally on her trail. So the detectives wanted to get Carrie's image in front of as many people as possible. But back in 1900, reproducing photographs was not nearly as fast or easy a process as it is today.
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However, photography had recently become more affordable for people, and newspapers regularly ran photos along with their articles. So, the detectives met with Kerry's brother, Joseph, and got photos of Kerry that they could reproduce as cards to show people around the city. They would also put these photos in the local papers.
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In the week following Carrie's disappearance, Manning, Ash, and their team walked the city, knocked on doors, and showed Carrie's picture to everyone. But nobody else beyond those initial witnesses had seen her. Two weeks after Carrie's disappearance, on March 25th, the detectives still had no real leads, and they were getting desperate.
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By now, they had searched the hospital and its grounds several times, they had crisscrossed the city, dragged small ponds, and conducted hundreds of interviews. At this point, they could only think of one other place to look, the canal that cut through town that also was not far from the psychiatric hospital. In 1900, very few women were taught how to swim.
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So Manning and Ash thought Carrie might have wandered near the canal, and with her limited vision and potentially with her inability to swim, she could have not seen the water, fallen in, and drowned. So the detectives had city workers drain the entire canal. And then after it was drained, they led a group of volunteers through the mud looking for Carrie's body.
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But after hours and hours of searching, they hadn't found any sign of her. As more weeks passed with no new leads or evidence, the search began to lose momentum. Kerry's brother Joseph had started his own campaign, going to different newspapers and asking them to keep putting photos of Kerry front and center.
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So if that's of interest to you, on the next hot summer day, open a can of sardines and pour the juice into the follow button's air intake of their car. Okay, let's get into today's story.
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Through his efforts, thousands of people had seen Kerry's photograph, which was a shocking level of publicity for the year 1900. Kerry's face was by now well known across the city. But despite all this, by April of 1900, so about a month after Carrie's disappearance, the newspapers and detectives moved on. And Carrie's case went cold.
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Joseph and his family never stopped believing that Carrie was out there somewhere. And so every so often, over the next several months, they would put an article in the paper with a message to Carrie in it, promising that if she came out of hiding, she wouldn't have to go back to the hospital. She could come home instead. But, Carrie never did. Hey listeners, big news for true crime lovers.
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Fast forward two years to a day in September of 1902 inside of an operating theater at a hospital right near the one Carrie had disappeared from. A medical student wove through the crowd to a front row seat in the theater, which gave him a clear view of the operating room right below.
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Today, I'm going to tell you two stories about two very different haunted places. Even though these stories take place decades apart and involve wildly different people, the message of both is the same. Crossing paths with ghosts can kill.
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At about 2.30 a.m. on August 27, 2010, a 29-year-old man named Christopher Kaiser and his girlfriend Emily held hands and stepped out onto a railroad bridge high above the ground in a remote area of North Carolina. It was totally dark out except for the beams of their flashlights.
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But as Arthur looked around in the darkness, he didn't see anyone. And eventually, the footstep sounds disappeared, at which point Arthur told himself it must have just been the wind blowing through the trees or something, and a bit apprehensively, he got back to work with his hammer and chisel.
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But suddenly, the sound of the footsteps came back, and this time they were so much louder, and they seemed much closer. Whoever it was, they were clearly making their way towards Arthur. And so Arthur had no idea if it was someone from one of the nearby houses or if a local cop had shown up or something, but either way, he wasn't sticking around to find out.
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And so he turned around to make a run for it when he froze because something was standing right in front of him, blocking his way. Arthur began to shake with fear and then without thinking, he dropped the hammer and chisel and took off running.
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Minutes later, in a house located about halfway down the road from where Arthur was, a man was sitting in his front room when he heard a blood-curdling scream coming from the top of the nearby hill that belonged to Carl Pruitt. The man just froze for a second. The sound frightened him, but it also confused him, because people just did not go up to the top of that hill anymore.
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But in the eerie silence that followed that scream, this man sort of snapped out of his confusion and shouted for his wife to stay inside, and then he ran to the kitchen and found his flashlight. The man stepped outside, flashlight in hand, and ran to the dirt road that led up to the top of the hill. And as he did, he saw a beam from another flashlight a couple yards ahead of him.
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He quickly recognized that it was his neighbor, so he called out to him. The neighbor turned around and walked a few steps back down the road, and the two men quickly exchanged notes about the scream they had heard. And then, together, they rushed towards the top of the hill. Once they got there, they arrived in front of the wrought iron gate.
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And when they shined their flashlights through it onto the ground, they saw something lying just on the other side of the gate. They both just stared at the ground for a few seconds in silence, transfixed by how gruesome the scene was. Finally, one of the two men said he'd go get help, and then he turned and ran back down the hill and headed straight into town.
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A little later that night, the man who had gone to get help returned to the top of the hill to the gate now with a police officer. The neighbor who'd been there before hadn't moved. All three men lifted their flashlights and shined them on the ground just beyond the gate. And together, they all stared at the dead body of Arthur Lewis.
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The metal chain that had been used to keep the gate locked had been removed and was wrapped around Arthur's neck, and Arthur's face had turned a sickly bluish-gray. The three men looked up from the body, and they all just nodded to each other. In most circumstances, the discovery of a dead body like this would cause shock and alarm, but these three men felt nothing but resignation and sorrow.
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Christopher and Emily were only 15 minutes away from the big event that they had come out here to witness, and they were nervous and excited. They checked the time, then started walking slowly across the bridge, pausing every few feet to listen for the sound of a train rumbling toward them.
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They weren't surprised, panicked, or afraid, because they already knew exactly what had happened. Everybody in town knew the kind of violence Carl Pruitt was capable of. This is why most people in town would never have set foot on the piece of land where Arthur had gone, and why they would definitely never have vandalized something that belonged to Carl.
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And this was because of the horrific chain of events that began back in 1938, a few years before Arthur made his fateful trip up the hill. Back in 1938, late one afternoon, Carl Pruitt had finished a hard day's work in town as a carpenter and headed home. Like most people in this small town, Carl knew pretty much everybody and seemed to get along well with his friends and neighbors.
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Most days, he worked hard building and repairing things for other people, and then when he got home, he would often find his wife cooking dinner for both of them. But today, when Carl arrived home, he didn't smell anything cooking, and he didn't see his wife in the kitchen. Instead, he heard a strange noise coming from his bedroom at the back of the house.
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He ran there to make sure his wife was okay, but when he stepped into the room, he found his wife in bed with another man. Carl began to scream, and the other man leapt out of the bed, climbed through the window, and fled across town. As for Carl's wife, she just stayed in the bed, covering herself with a blanket and trying to apologize to her husband and trying to get him to calm down.
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But Carl, filled with rage, grabbed a metal chain he used on his job, leapt on top of his wife, wrapped the chain around her throat, and strangled her to death. After the murder of his wife, no one in town ever heard from Carl again. Even though there had never been an arrest or trial, the townspeople were glad Carl was gone.
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They tried to quickly put this horrific event behind them and basically stopped thinking about Carl Pruitt. However, within months of this murder, a series of violent deaths began taking place in town, and most people did not think these deaths were accidents.
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The first death that caught people's attention involved a young man who had been seen happily riding his bicycle towards the dirt road that led to the top of the hill. But later that day, someone found the boy back in town lying dead on the street, strangled with his own bike chain. Days later, after the boy had been buried, neighbors found his mother dead in her own yard.
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She also had been strangled but with a clothesline while she was out hanging up laundry. These two deaths put the whole town on edge. Even though nobody had seen him, many people suspected that Carl Pruitt must have come back because the boy and his mother had been strangled to death, just like Carl's wife had been.
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But all they could hear was whispering and giggling and the occasional shout coming from the 10 other people who had all hiked out here as well to wait alongside them, and who were now just standing in clusters all along the bridge. So usually, this railroad bridge, which was called the Boschian Bridge, was not a place that people went to.
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And not long after that, a farmer turned up, strangled with the reins from his own horse-drawn wagon, which prompted a police investigation. However, before he could finish it, that police officer was strangled to death as well, found in an open field with a large chain wrapped around his neck, looking like it had almost decapitated him.
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After the death of this police officer, combined with all the other strange strangulation deaths, the town had had it, they were terrified, and they went into full panic mode. Soon, stories began to surface that people had seen Carl wandering through the shadows on this small patch of land he owned on the top of the hill, just waiting for his next victim.
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And now, Carl appeared to have found his next victim, Arthur Lewis, the man who said he wasn't afraid of Carl, who had traveled up the hill with his hammer and chisel. On top of the hill, the officer and the two men who'd found Arthur's body stood at the gate. The officer told the men to step back and wait over there.
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Once they had, he opened the gate, walked through, and stepped directly over Arthur's body. He made his way through the grass and found Arthur's hammer and chisel on the ground. And right next to them was the engraved marker that Arthur had come out to deface. However, when the officer shined his light on the marker, the marker had no damage to it whatsoever. It was completely intact.
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Not a single piece of the stone had been chipped off by the chisel. The officer crouched down and moved his light over the stone. And he saw very clearly that on this stone were the words Carl Pruitt. And next to it were dates. The date Carl was born and the date Carl died. Because this stone marker that Arthur had come up here to deface was actually Carl's gravestone.
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Because Carl had died back in 1938 on the day he found his wife in bed with another man. It would turn out Carl Pruitt not only killed his own wife, but also after seeing what he had done, seeing her dead body, he grabbed a pistol, put it to his head and fired, taking his own life.
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Soon after the murder-suicide, Carl's wife was laid to rest in the cemetery near her church, but her family demanded that Carl be buried somewhere else. And so Carl was buried in an isolated grave in an old cemetery at the top of that hill. And of course, since the man was dead, everybody in town assumed he was gone for good and they would never have to deal with Carl again.
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But that all changed not long after Carl was buried, when people in town reported seeing strange shadows around his gravesite. And these shadows always took on the same form, a large chain like the one Carl had used to murder his wife. The story spread, and soon a morbid curiosity about Carl's grave arose in town. And that's around the same time that the other strangling deaths began.
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and when people started to claim that maybe Carl's ghost was responsible for them. But being strangled was not the only thing that connected all these victims. It would turn out not long before their deaths, they had all tried to vandalize Carl Pruitt's grave. Some had done it on a dare, others did it out of anger.
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As for the police officer who eventually launched this investigation following all these strangling deaths, well, he didn't vandalize Carl Pruitt's grave, but he was so intrigued by the idea that Carl's ghost could be responsible that he went to the grave site and began taking photographs. And it was not long after that that he died.
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First of all, it was technically trespassing to be there, but beyond that, the bridge was way out in the woods and required a rocky hike to get to. And once you did get to it, there really wasn't much to see. The bridge itself was pretty basic as bridges go. It had been built in the 1850s out of brick and stone with big arches underneath, and it crossed a ravine that was about 100 feet deep.
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As for Arthur, he did attempt to vandalize the grave, but he was not doing it out of anger or some vendetta against Carl or Adair. He was actually doing it to prove to the rest of the townspeople that there was no such thing as ghosts and that Carl Pruitt was dead and could no longer hurt anyone.
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However, the instant Arthur began to deface that headstone, someone or something strangled him to death. And many people believe it was Carl Pruitt's ghost. And despite all those attempts at defacing Karl Pruitt's headstone, that headstone was always found, at least according to local legend, in perfect condition.
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Following the discovery of Arthur's body, people in town really began to fear Karl Pruitt's ghost and his cursed headstone, and they demanded that the cemetery on the hill be closed. And so family members with loved ones buried up there had their bodies removed and reburied in other cemeteries. However, nobody dared touch Carl's grave. So Carl's body remained in that cemetery until 1958.
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So 20 years after he had killed his wife and taken his own life. At that time in 1958, a strip mining company dug up the ground on the hill, destroying Carl's body and his headstone. And so the curse was said to have finally been lifted. And so, if these two stories tell us anything, it's that if you think you can go searching for ghosts without consequences, you can't.
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Train tracks ran the entire length of the bridge, which was about 300 feet. On either end, the tracks disappeared into the forest. And so the Bostian Bridge was just a kind of boring, typical railroad bridge with no people on it, except one night a year. And that night was tonight. Because tonight, the Bostian Bridge was supposed to be haunted.
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Exactly 119 years earlier, on August 27, 1891, a passenger train had somehow lost control while crossing this bridge, and it careened off the side, plunging into the ravine below. The accident had killed 23 people. Now, Christopher and Emily knew that regular trains had not used this bridge in a long time.
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But ever since the accident, legend had it that if you went to the bridge on the anniversary of that crash, at the exact moment the train went off the side, apparently a ghost train would appear speeding along the tracks and blasting its horn.
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People said you could actually hear the horrible screeching sound of the brakes as they tried and failed to keep the train on the tracks, and then you could hear the screaming of the passengers as they plunged to their deaths all over again. This ghost train passing through was the big event that Christopher and Emily and everybody else had come out to see. Tonight, they were all ghost hunters.
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Just then, one of the people at the bridge checked the time and called out that there was only one minute left to go till the ghost train arrived. And with this, all the whispering and laughing and yelling stopped. Everyone on the bridge fell silent and waited. Out on the tracks, Christopher and Emily looked at each other and squeezed each other's hands.
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The couple was deeply in love and considered each other's soulmates. And one of the best things about their relationship was the sense of adventure they both shared. And tonight was exactly the kind of adrenaline-pumping thing they both loved doing together.
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And so as the clock ticked down, the couple turned to watch the tracks where they emerged from the woods in the direction they knew the ghost train was supposed to come from. And as they did this, they actually began to feel the bridge tremble under their feet. And at the same time, they heard a few people start shouting with excitement. It was really happening.
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From the woods came a low rumbling sound that quickly turned into a roar. And for a second, Christopher and Emily couldn't believe it. Of course, they wanted to see the ghost train. That's why they were there. But they hadn't truly been convinced this ghost train was actually real. But now, as they watched, a bright light emerged from the woods and flooded the bridge.
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The ghost train was almost right on top of them. Suddenly the train blasted its horn and then Christopher and Emily heard the screeching of the brakes, just like the legend said they would. But this was not fun and spooky. This was actually terrifying. The other ghost hunters on the bridge started screaming and running and so did Christopher and Emily.
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But suddenly Christopher just stopped running and turned to Emily and he looked her in the eyes and told her, I love you. And then Christopher pushed Emily off the bridge. Not long afterwards, police and paramedics flooded the woods around Bostian Bridge and the ravine beneath it. A helicopter circled overhead, shining a bright light down to help them search.
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And it didn't take long before one of the policemen working his way down the slope that led to the ravine stopped cold and called out for help. He had found Emily. She was badly injured and barely able to move, but she was alive. The police officer looked up at the bridge over his head. He figured she must have fallen 30 feet or so. It was incredible that she had not died.
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As paramedics strapped Emily into a neck brace to get her safely on a stretcher, another police officer down in the bottom of the ravine shouted that he needed backup now. That officer had found Christopher. It would take some time, but the first responders would eventually piece together what had happened on the Bostjan Bridge in the early hours of August 27, 2010.
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At around 2.45 a.m., members of the ghost hunting group waiting on the bridge had begun to cheer. They saw a bright light approaching the bridge and they knew this meant the ghost train had arrived. But just seconds later, those cheers turned into screams. Christopher saw everybody else scattering to get away from the bridge, and suddenly he knew exactly what was happening.
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Passenger trains hadn't used these tracks in decades, but freight trains still did. And by some bizarre chance, one of those freight trains came barreling onto the bridge at the exact time when everybody thought the ghost train would appear. On that freight train, the conductor frantically blew the horn and tried to bring the train to a stop.
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But Christopher could tell the train was going too fast and there was no way it could stop in time. And so Christopher and Emily, they started running away from the train down the bridge like the others were, but Christopher saw Emily was lagging behind.
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And Christopher knew he might be able to outrun this train and get off in time, but from the looks of it, Emily, the love of his life, was not going to be able to do that. And so Christopher made a terrible decision. He took a quick look down to make sure his desperate plan made sense. Then he stopped running, waiting for Emily to catch up with him.
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He looked her in the eyes, told her he loved her, and then he pushed her off the bridge. Christopher could see that where they were standing was only about 30 feet above the ravine, not 100. And so he figured by pushing her off the bridge, she had a better chance of surviving a 30-foot fall than of being hit by a speeding freight train.
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However, what Christopher must have understood was that by waiting for Emily and pushing her off to try to save her life, it would not leave him enough time to save his own life. And he was right. Almost instantly after he saved his girlfriend's life, the freight train struck him and threw him off the bridge. When the police officer found Christopher a short while later, he was already deceased.
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As for Emily, she was airlifted to a nearby hospital and she eventually recovered from her injuries. And so Christopher is remembered as a hero. If you're listening to this podcast, then chances are good you are a fan of The Strange, Dark, and Mysterious. And if that's the case, then I've got some good news.
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One night in the early 1940s in a small town in eastern Kentucky, a highly respected local man named Arthur Lewis silently made his way down a dark road. Everybody who knew Arthur, and that was most people in this small town, knew him as an upstanding, law-abiding citizen.
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But tonight, Arthur clutched a hammer and a chisel in his hands and crept as slowly and quietly as he could because he didn't want anybody to know what he was doing. The moon and stars cast an eerie glow across the town. Arthur was not a superstitious person. In fact, he was pretty much the opposite.
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But the way the moonlight hit the trees along the road made it look like something was moving in the shadows, and Arthur couldn't help but feel creeped out. Still, the moon and stars provided the perfect amount of light for Arthur to see where he was going without being seen. So he took a breath, collected himself, and moved quickly through the shadows on the road.
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After walking for a few minutes, he turned onto another dirt road that led to the top of a small hill that was ringed by trees. There were a few old wooden houses along this dirt road, and Arthur saw lights on inside a couple of them. So he crouched down a little bit more to try to hide himself in the dark and picked up his pace. Arthur stopped when he reached the top of the hill.
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A wrought iron gate and fence stood in his path, and there was a thick metal chain with a lock on it wrapped around the gate. Arthur scanned the darkness all around him and took another steadying breath. He knew everybody in town would think what he was about to do was crazy, because this land belonged to a man named Carl Pruitt, and Carl Pruitt was dangerous. But tonight, Arthur didn't care.
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He was on a mission. Arthur pulled on the gate, but the chain and lock kept it closed tight. So he walked a couple of feet away from the gate and just tossed his hammer and chisel over the fence, which was only a few feet tall. And so Arthur grabbed on to the thin wrought iron bars that made up this fence and very carefully he climbed up and leapt over to the other side.
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When he landed, he scooped up his hammer and chisel and walked through some overgrown grass. Now, despite having the hammer and chisel, Arthur did not come to this place in order to work. Instead, he came here to vandalize the place. He had come here really to prove a point.
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He wanted to show the people in town that Karl Pruitt was not as powerful as they all thought, and they didn't have to live in fear of him any longer. Just then, Arthur spotted the engraved stone marker he was looking for, a marker that declared in capital letters that this patch of land was Karl's. So he gripped his chisel tightly and walked towards the marker.
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But just as he drew close to the marker and raised his tools to strike, Arthur suddenly froze. He couldn't tell if the moon and stars were playing tricks on him, but it looked like a shadow of a large chain had appeared on the ground in front of him.
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Arthur instinctively turned around, but he saw he was way too far away from the gate for the chain on it to be casting a shadow all the way over here. However, when Arthur turned back around, the shadow of the chain was now gone. Arthur was shaken up, but he kind of laughed at himself and shook it off. Things always seem to look strange in the dark.
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And so Arthur placed the metal blade of the chisel directly on the stone marker and then slammed the hammer into the back of the chisel. A piece of the stone flew off and fell to the ground. And right away, Arthur forgot all about that weird shadow he'd just seen. Instead, he just continued chipping away as fast as he could.
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He knew the noise he was making could attract attention from the people who lived nearby, and he had no intention of getting caught tonight. But just then, Arthur heard a sound over all the noise he was making, and it sounded like footsteps, exactly what he'd been trying to avoid. Arthur stopped hammering and crouched down a few feet away from the stone marker, trying his best to hide.
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Basically, Rick and David were going to perform a sacred ritual, and Irene, she began to say to the spirits in the room that Rick and David, they were ready, but they needed help. And so after she said this, she went quiet and so too did Rick and David. And they're all just sitting there kind of waiting for something to happen.
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And then after about a minute of just total silence, Irenia began to speak again, still in this strange, slow, bizarre voice. But Rick and David knew now it was a different voice coming out of her. Now Irenia was speaking on behalf of the spirit world that was in the room with them. And Irenia, she would say in this voice, I grant you five demons to help you on your quest to break this hex.
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And then after saying this, Irenia, she opened her eyes and she looked kind of confused for a moment. And then she kind of got her bearings and she looked at David and Rick and she told them now in her normal voice that they had to perform this sacred ritual before the two candles in the middle with Lindsay and Baby etched on them burned out.
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And so basically, Rick and David, they needed to get this done tonight. Then, Irenia handed David a sacred tool that would be used that night in this sacred ritual that David and Rick were going to complete. And then, Rick and David, they would stand up to leave, and before they left, Irenia would give them the typical witch send-off, which was, "'Blessed be.'"
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And then Rick and David, they nodded their heads. They turned and walked out of the apartment. And as soon as they were out into the night, Rick could have sworn he saw dark shadows moving around all over the place.
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And he knew right then and there that he and David would be safe that night because clearly the shadows moving around had to be those five demons that Irenia had called forth from the spirit world to protect them this night. And so feeling very safe and empowered, Rick and David went straight into Rick's car.
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Rick turned it on and pulled away from the curb and began heading towards their destination. A few miles away, at the house where the 16-year-old evil witch Lindsey Kassinger lived, a 20-year-old army private named Joshua Bennett was sitting at the kitchen table in Lindsey's house, eating chicken wings and just kind of enjoying his night.
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Josh didn't know Lindsey very well, but he wasn't at her house to see Lindsey. He was at her house to see his own mother. And Josh and his mother had a lot of catching up to do. She had abandoned him and his father when he was young. And so Josh's dad had raised him. And then when Josh was old enough, he had joined the military. And now he was about to deploy to the Middle East to go to war.
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But unexpectedly, Josh's father had died. And so Josh had come back to Illinois for the funeral. And it was at the funeral where he saw his mother. She was in attendance as well. And, you know, even though he was upset with his mother for abandoning him, He felt like, you know what, I want to reconnect with her. And so he'd gone over and he'd given her a hug.
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And his mother had been so touched that she had asked Josh to come by her house in Claremont, Illinois, where she lived with her boyfriend, because she really wanted some alone time to actually hear about Josh's life and kind of, you know, get back together again. And so, of course, Josh had said yes. And so here he was at this house in Claremont.
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Now, Josh had arrived at this house a little bit earlier, and he was surprised to discover that it was not just his mother and her boyfriend living there, but also his mother's boyfriend's son, whose name was Jackie, was also living there, along with his pregnant girlfriend, the evil witch, Lindsay Kassinger. But Josh didn't really mind that there was extra people.
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It was just maybe a little bit confusing that this was kind of a big roommate situation. But it seemed like Jackie and his girlfriend Lindsay were very nice people, and they quickly went downstairs to the apartment in the basement and kind of just stayed out of the way so Josh and his mother could catch up.
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And so after Josh finished eating his wings, his mother came into the kitchen and the two of them chatted for hours. And then finally at about midnight that night, Josh decided to go to bed. So he said goodnight to his mom. He retreated to the bedroom and he laid in bed. But he couldn't really sleep right away because he had a lot going on in his life.
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I mean, he had just lost his dad a couple of weeks ago. And then at the same time, he had reconnected with his estranged mother. And he's about to deploy to Iraq, to a war zone. And, you know, he felt ready for that. But at the same time, he was kind of apprehensive. You know, it's about to happen. You know, I hope I'll be able to do my job.
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And so with all these kind of intense thoughts swirling around his head, he just kind of laid there and didn't really expect to sleep anytime soon. But eventually Josh did fall asleep. However, it felt like he had only been asleep for a couple of minutes when he was abruptly woken up by the sound of barking coming out from the kitchen. Jackie's dog was going crazy.
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And so Josh grabbed his phone and he checked the time and saw it was three in the morning. And so instead of going out there and dealing with this dog, he just thought, you know what, it's going to stop eventually. And so Josh grabbed his pillow and he put it over his head and tried to muffle the sounds so he could fall back asleep. But it didn't work. The dog just kept on barking.
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And then when Josh took the pillow off his head and kind of sat up wondering what he should do about this dog situation, he heard the sound of a man's voice, a stranger's voice, saying, I bring you forth from the dark. And then after Josh heard this, he heard the sound of a woman screaming and it sounded like his mom.
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And so acting on instinct, Josh leapt from his bed, he ran out of the room, and he goes into the kitchen, and he sees the dog is jumping and barking and going mad, and his mom is screaming, and there's this guy grabbing her, kind of grappling with her, who's wearing black gloves and a ski mask, and there's another guy next to him with the same getup. It's absolute chaos.
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But before Josh could run over and save his mother, suddenly his chest felt like it was on fire and then he went blind and his eyes had this burning pain in them and then he couldn't breathe and he was stumbling backwards, barely able to stand.
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Minutes later, Rick, who was one of the witches from the coven, bolted out of the front door of Lindsay's house where all this chaos was happening, and he just took off running across the street directly into a cornfield. And as he ran, he felt this throbbing pain in his leg, and he could feel blood pooling in his shoe.
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Rick ran until he couldn't run any farther, and then he collapsed onto the ground, and then he began thinking about what an absolute disaster it had been inside of the evil witch's house. Not only had they failed to break the hex cast by Lindsay, but also Rick was concerned that David, his partner who was still at the house, was dead.
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And Rick, he began looking around wildly, hoping all those demons that were sent to help them from the spirit world, he was hoping they'd be nearby and they'd know what to do. But Rick looked around and there was no one. So Rick thought for a second, oh my gosh, Lindsay's hex must be stronger than any of us realize. You know, we have to do something now.
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We have to end this before me and my family get killed too. And so Rick pulled out his phone and he called Irenia, the leader of the coven, to get her advice about what they should do next. But Irenia didn't respond to what Rick was saying the way he expected her to. Instead, she seemed very cold and almost enraged at what he was saying.
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And then before Rick could kind of figure out what was going on with Irenia, he heard off in the distance the sound of sirens making their way to the evil witch's house. Over the next few days, police detectives would speak to everyone inside of Irenia's coven, as well as everyone who knew both Irenia and Lindsay.
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And slowly but surely, the police would put together what actually happened inside of Lindsay, the evil witch's house, in the early morning hours of August 23, 2005. At about 3 a.m. on August 23rd, 2005, Rick and David pulled up onto Lindsay Street and they parked their car a little ways away from Lindsay's house. And then after parking, Rick and David donned their ski masks and their gloves.
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And then after looking at each other and nodding, they hopped out and began walking towards Lindsay's house. Their plan was to sneak in through one of Lindsay's windows and confront Lindsay the evil witch directly and break the hex by performing a sacred ritual.
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And then after this ritual was over, they had a second ritual they would need to perform that would send Lindsay's evil soul through the gates of hell. And to do that, they needed the help of the five demons that had been sent along by Irenia from the spirit world. Now, Rick and David felt like this was a great plan.
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However, as soon as they got to Lindsay's house and David actually began trying to climb into one of the windows, everything fell apart. First, the dog began to bark inside of Lindsay's house, and that alerted Josh's mother, who came into the kitchen and sees the dog and sees David falling through the window, and Rick, who didn't really know what was happening inside the house.
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He just climbed through the window after David, and when he stood up in the kitchen, he realized it was too late. They were totally caught. And so Rick, not really knowing what to do, he's seeing all this yelling and chaos happening. He looks over at David and he sees David grab something from his belt and he pulls it out.
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And it was the tool that Irenia had given them when they left her apartment to go carry out the sacred ritual. This tool was part of that sacred ritual. And it was a long, sharp knife. And what they were going to do is stab the evil witch, Lindsay Kassinger, to death with it. That was how they were going to break the hex.
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And then after they killed Lindsay, they were going to perform this weird ritual with her clothing that would send her soul through the gates of hell. Now, Rick did understand that this was the plan, they were going to murder Lindsay, but perhaps he didn't really know how serious David was about carrying it out.
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Or the fact that David was not really a warlock, as much as he was a violent criminal who had bragged to Irenia about previously murdering someone who had cast a separate hex, and so by killing this person, that was how David had broken the hex previously.
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Also, Rick may not have known that David had been instructed by Irenia to not let anything stand in their way to break this hex, to carry out this sacred ritual on Lindsay. And so Rick just watched as David raised the knife and began stabbing Josh's mother over and over again in the chest while screaming, I bring you forth from the dark!
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And it was at this point that Josh, the army private who heard all this happening, came charging out in his underwear into the kitchen. And Rick watched as David went from stabbing Josh's mother to turning and immediately stabbing Josh directly in the chest. And Rick, at this point, he just jumped right in on it and pulled out his pepper spray and sprayed Josh in the eyes.
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And so that was why Josh felt the burning sensation and then went blind and couldn't breathe and fell to the ground. And so now it is absolutely chaos inside of this kitchen and the actual target of David and Rick's, Lindsay, the evil witch, she managed to run out of the house and run to a nearby neighbor's house to get help.
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Meanwhile, the evil witch's boyfriend, Jackie, he comes upstairs carrying a shotgun. And at this point, Josh is on the ground, clearly dying from the stab wound to his chest. His mother as well is struggling on the ground. And David is going totally nuts, saying all these strange things and whipping his knife around. And Rick is just totally panicking and doesn't know what to do.
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And so when Jackie ran at Rick with this shotgun, Rick pulled out his own knife and attempted to stab Jackie, but somehow missed Jackie and stabbed himself in the leg. And so that was why his leg was throbbing and bleeding because he had stabbed himself. And then after Rick had stabbed himself, Jackie just walked over and Spartan kicked Rick down the stairs into the basement.
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And then Jackie turned his attention from Rick to David, who was still just going nuts with this knife and being a total maniac.
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And Jackie just walked over to David, and David, he sees the shotgun coming over to him, and he tries to move the barrel out of the way, but then somehow only manages to point the gun directly at his own stomach, at which point Jackie just fired a slug directly into David's gut.
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And it was at this moment, as David is crumpling to the ground with this horrible stomach wound, that the neighbor that Lindsay, the evil witch, had gone to go get, had come to the house, they went inside, and they found a scene of absolute carnage.
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And before the neighbor could even do anything, Rick, who had stabbed himself in the leg and been kicked down into the basement, had scrambled up the steps and just run right past all the bodies on the ground, past the neighbor who didn't even do anything, outside, and Rick just kept on running out into that cornfield. And so at this point, the neighbor didn't even try to figure out what happened.
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He just called 911. But it was already too late for Josh, the army private, who was only at this house to reconnect with his estranged mother before he deployed to Iraq. And here he was, dead on the ground from this totally bizarre attack. It would turn out, Rick, David, and really the entire coven of witches that fell under Irenia had been totally duped.
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They all fully believed that Lindsay was in fact an evil witch who had cast this hex on Irenia, which was spreading to all the other members of the coven. But in reality, Irenia, the leader of this coven, she didn't believe there was a hex that had nothing to do with any of this. The whole coven thing was totally made up. She was just jealous that Lindsay was dating Jackie.
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Irenia had previously dated Jackie, and they had broken up, and Irenia still wanted to get back together, but Jackie didn't. And so now that Jackie was with Lindsay, Irenia just couldn't handle it.
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And so, naturally, Irenia had constructed this whole thing about Lindsay being one of the dark witches in Claremont, Illinois, and she's cast this hex, and now you, my witches in this coven, you need to go and kill her.
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But, of course, Lindsay did not end up getting killed, and instead, it was the totally innocent person, Josh, the army private, who had nothing to do with any of this, who got killed. In addition to Josh dying, David, the warlock from St. Louis, he died from the shotgun blast to his stomach, and then Josh's mother, who had been stabbed repeatedly by David, she would actually survive her attack.
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Irenia would ultimately be found guilty of first-degree murder, and she would be sentenced to 57 years in prison. Rick pleaded guilty to murder as well, and he was sentenced to 20 years, and a third member of the coven, who was not present for the attack, but who after the fact helped cover it up, they were sentenced to 32 years in prison.
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In 1909, Luana Constantinescu was a 27-year-old woman living in the Romanian city of Timisoara. Luana was a devout practitioner of Zoroastrianism, which is one of the world's oldest organized religions that began in ancient Persia and is now practiced primarily in East Asia. In the city that Luana was living in, it was majority Christian, and they looked at Zoroastrians as witches.
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The links to the original YouTube videos are in the description. The first story you'll hear is called Lawana the Bloodthirster, and it's about a horrifying ritual that led to a supposed curse. And the second and final story you'll hear is called The Witching Hour, and it's about a group of people in Illinois who kill on demand.
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As such, Luana was persecuted and ostracized primarily by these two Christian ministers that spread a rumor that she was drinking the blood of local children and that she worshipped Satan. That rumor would spread and grow to the point where everybody knew Lawana as like the singular witch of all the Zoroastrians in the city.
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And it ultimately incited this angry Christian mob to storm her house on October 21st, 1909 and rip her into the streets and savagely beat her to within an inch of her life. She would survive this lynching and she would be taken to a hospital where she'd be treated for severe blunt force injuries and lacerations.
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But after two days of being in the hospital when she had not made a full recovery at all, she checked herself out and headed home.
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The next day, Luana was found dead in her apartment and her family and friends initially believed that she had died as a result of the injuries she had sustained from the angry mob and that perhaps she had checked herself out of the hospital too soon and untreated, that's why she must have passed away early.
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But when the authorities arrived at her house and began looking at the scene, it did not look like she had died as a result of those injuries. It looked more like some sort of ritual suicide. She was laying on this sofa with her arms over her chest. Next to the sofa was an altar that was adorned with strange occult symbols and ritual herbs and effigies.
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And on the altar was this goblet with deep, dark red stains on the inside. When they looked at Luana, even though she was fully dressed, underneath her sleeves were all these cuts on her arms and there were cuts on her legs as well.
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After her autopsy, the medical examiner said she had died from a combination of blood loss and internal shock from ingesting massive quantities of blood that triggered cardiac arrest. Luana had been draining her own blood into the sacramental goblet, drinking it, and then doing it over and over again until she died.
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Locals believed that that was not just a ritual suicide, but rather she was placing a curse on her enemies. Almost immediately following her death, those two Christian ministers that had spread those rumors about her that led to the mob coming and attacking her, they both died of an extremely rare blood-borne illness.
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And then immediately following their demise, the two primary vigilantes that actually organized that mob that would attack Luana, they both died. One was hit by a falling tree and another died in a fire. And according to more recent accounts, Luana's curse didn't end with the death of her tormentors.
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There have been dozens of reports of people after seeing an image, which is of Luana after she was discovered by authorities in her home, that they will have bouts of extreme sleep paralysis. These are people that have never had sleep paralysis before, that this picture somehow induces sleep paralysis in them, like they're cursed by Luana.
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The next and final story of today's episode is called The Witching Hour. Just before midnight on August 22, 2005, 38-year-old Rick Eck knocked on the front door of an apartment in the tiny Midwestern farm town of Claremont, Illinois. As Rick waited for the door to open, he could barely stand still because he was so excited about what he was going to be doing that night.
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Finally, the door swung open and Rick saw right in front of him this very skinny and gaunt-looking woman with dark hair and dark eyes staring back at him. Her name was Irenia Cotner, and she was 34 years old, and by day she worked at Walmart, but at night she became the real version of herself. She was a witch who actually led a group of witches known as a coven that Rick was a part of.
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Without saying anything, Irenia motioned for Rick to follow her into her apartment, and then Irenia turned and began walking away. And Rick, before stepping over the threshold, he paused for a moment and just turned to the guy he had brought with him, a tall, muscular man named David Lindner. And Rick, he just kind of nodded at David, and David nodded back, and then the two of them walked inside.
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As Rick and David followed Irenia into her apartment, Rick still could barely contain his excitement. He had only joined this coven recently, about a year and a half ago, and so witchcraft, which is something they were going to be doing that night, was kind of new to him, but it was very exciting.
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Rick had been inspired to become a witch and join this coven after watching the Harry Potter movies, and so he was hopeful that tonight would go something like Harry Potter. And Rick knew David, the guy he had brought along, was this very powerful warlock, which is a male witch. And so he figured, you know, if David's here, this is bound to go to plan.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
The Witching Hour
Rick just hoped he'd be able to keep up with David or at least play some sort of meaningful support role. Irenia eventually led Rick and David down this dark hallway to this small living room where in the middle of the floor was a ring of lit candles.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
The Witching Hour
And as soon as Rick and David stepped into the room with Irenia, they were hit with this powerful smell of incense that had been burning in the room. And also there was all this smoke hovering in the air from the various things that Irenia had been burning in preparation for tonight's event.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
The Witching Hour
Rick, David, and Irenia walked quietly into the middle of this circle of candles, and they sat down cross-legged in a circle facing each other, and then they got ready to begin. Life in the town of Claremont was normally very quiet and peaceful. I mean, this is a town that literally has more cornfields than people, and Claremont was over 100 miles away from the nearest city.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
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But beneath the calm exterior, Claremont had a dark side. Amongst the 200 or so residents of Claremont were several very dark witches. Not this coven, not Irenia, Rick, and David. They were the good guys. The dark witches, they were kind of out and about in this town and doing bad things, like practicing evil magic and evil witchcraft.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
The Witching Hour
And so this coven, led by Irenia, was actually in place to try to combat these evil witches in their midst. And tonight, Rick, David, and Irenia were going to attempt to perform their most ambitious and important magic yet. The coven was going to attempt to break a powerful hex, which is kind of like a curse.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
The Witching Hour
And this hex was cast by a person who might very well be the worst of all the dark witches in Claremont, a 16-year-old girl named Lindsay Kassinger. As Rick sat cross-legged in the middle of the circle, he found himself staring at the two slightly bigger candles that sat in the dead center of the circle, that were basically right between Rick, David, and Irenia.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
The Witching Hour
And David, as he stared at these two candles, he saw etched in each of the candles' bodies were words. On one candle, it said Lindsay, and on the other candle, it was etched baby. Because it would turn out this very evil dark witch, Lindsay, was pregnant. And so instead of having to combat one dark soul, the coven would have to combat two because Lindsay and her baby were kind of intertwined.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
The Witching Hour
Now, before this night, the coven had attempted several times to try to break this hex that Lindsay had cast. And the coven believed, initially, this hex was actually cast directly at Irenia. Because Irenia was suffering from things like depression and anxiety and not finding love. And so, of course, that had to be a product of this curse.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
The Witching Hour
and as the coven had continued to try and fail at breaking this hex the hex had only become more powerful and begun to spread from irenia to other witches in this coven who actually were not present this particular night including a 20 year old woman who began complaining of depression and ever-worsening headaches which of course had to be because of this hex
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
The Witching Hour
And so that was why on this night, the coven had decided to really beef up their attack on this hex. And so that was why Rick had gone out and brought in David, the experienced warlock from St. Louis, Missouri, who claimed he had broken a hex before and he could do it again for them.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
The Witching Hour
As Rick, Irenia, and Dave all sat in the circle, they looked at each other, and then they began chanting in unison to bring out the dead, to join them in the living room right now. And as they began this chant, Rick found himself intensely staring at those two candles with Lindsay and Baby on them.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
The Witching Hour
And as he stared at the flames dancing across the top of them, Rick started to feel like he was kind of drifting off into a trance-like state. And he knew that based on his prior teachings from Irenia, the leader of this coven, that this must be what it feels like when the spirit world opens up, which means the dead really were coming into the room.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
The Witching Hour
And then as Rick is kind of dealing with this trance-like state, he heard Irenia begin to talk, but it wasn't her normal voice. It was the slow and deep sounding voice, almost like something had inhabited her body and taken it over and was now speaking through her mouth. And Irenia, in this kind of slow and strange voice, she would tell Rick and David that the curse is still growing.
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MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
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And then she would say something that totally caught Rick by surprise. She said, again in that slow, strange voice, that the hex now was also on Rick and his entire family, and if they didn't break this hex immediately, Rick and his family would all perish.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
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And when Rick heard this, you know, he's still in this trance-like state, but his heart began racing because he didn't know this hex could potentially affect his loved ones, and so this was a really big deal. They needed to end this hex tonight. Rick listened intently as Irene began to say in this strange voice what their plan was for that night to break this hex.
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The Creature
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And so Frazer, he couldn't even feel any pain. He just began screaming for help, and he tried to push it off of him, but he couldn't. And then a second later, a flash of metal came across his eye as his mother and other villagers who had seen this happening and heard him screaming came out and began smashing whatever this was with shovels.
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And so a second later, Frazer's pulled away and dragged towards his house. And this huge black creature, it marched over to the edge of the tree line and just stopped, turned, and looked back at Frazer and his mother and the neighbors. And Fraser, as he's sitting there in total shock, he can tell that whatever this thing is, this enormous dog-like creature, this had to be the beast.
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That's what just attacked him. And in this moment, Fraser realized, you know, this creature may have the shape of a dog, but it was not a dog. South Africa has its share of wild dogs, jackals, and hyenas, and typically they're multicolored and fairly small. And this thing was jet black, pitch black, and gigantic.
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And when this thing first started chasing Fraser, he'd had that panicked thought that maybe it was a rabid dog. but rabid animals are typically lethargic and confused. And this thing that was 15 feet away from them was absolutely alert and calm. The only thing sick about it was that horrible wheezing sound it would make as it breathed.
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And as Fraser and his mother and the neighbors just stood there staring at this thing, this creature just continued to stare back at them with piercing eyes. And its eyes were not normal. These were not like animal eyes or dog eyes. They were too small and set at the wrong angle. And there was real sentience behind them. They were human eyes.
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Just then, Frazer's mother grabbed Frazer and yanked him, kinda jerking him back to reality, and he scrambled to his feet, and he and his mother and the two neighbors, they took off running back into their respective homes. All the while, this creature just sat there on the edge of the forest, staring still in the direction of Frazer and his home.
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Once inside of Fraser's house, his mother immediately dialed the emergency number to tell the police about what had just happened. But the police told her they were not going to send people out there to deal with some dog. And so Fraser's mother decided she would just treat her son's wounds on her own until this dog-like creature had left.
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And then once it had, she would get him a ride to the hospital. However, as Fraser and his mother stared out the window at this creature, it didn't leave. It just sat there staring back at Fraser and his mother with these hideous human eyes for hours and hours. Finally, in the morning, it was gone. The attack on Frazer was the last straw for the people of his village.
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They believed the creature that had bit his face was the demon beast that had hurt so many other people. And so the elders of Frazer's village came up with a plan of how to deal with this beast. And so a few days after the attack on Frazer, this group of elders went off on a journey up into that mountain that Frazer had seen off in the distance that had that huge forest fire on it.
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And they were there for two whole days before returning to the village and telling everyone that they had successfully performed a ritual that had appeased their ancestors. And so hopefully now the attacks would stop. And sure enough, they did. They did not see the beast again.
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At least 40 people in Limpopo had encountered the beast at some point, either because they were attacked or they helped fend it off, like the neighbors did with Fraser. But because this beast was never caught and it did stop attacking the village and just kind of disappeared, nobody ever actually figured out what it was.
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To this day, people in Frazer's village maintain that this creature was a demon and that it came down from the burning mountain. Because every person, including Frazer, who had encountered this beast, noted its wheezing heavy breathing, as if its lungs had been damaged by smoke.
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In 2010, Jan McAbee was living with her husband Bruce in a town called Lima, Ohio, which is approximately 80 miles southwest of Lake Erie. While Jan had built a successful career as a booking agent for musicians, bands, and entertainers, her real passion was deer hunting. So on September 29th of that year, right after deer hunting season had opened in Ohio, Jan decided to go out on a hunt.
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Just after midnight on May 1, 1971, a 20-year-old woman named Elizabeth Ford was sleeping on a couch in the front room of a small house near a city in Arkansas called Texarkana. Elizabeth and her husband Bobby were staying at the house with Bobby's brother and his wife, who owned the house. Bobby and his brother were still both awake, and Elizabeth could hear them talking in the kitchen quietly.
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The house was surrounded by woods and swampland, and Elizabeth had opened up a window above the couch so a breeze was blowing in. Now, usually she slept really well with the sound of the woods in the background, but tonight she was tossing and turning.
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And this was because as she lay there trying to sleep, she became very aware of a unique sound coming from outside that was not the sound of, you know, the trees blowing in the wind or the insects buzzing. This was something else. It was a slow creaking sound.
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And at first it kind of sounded like it could be out in the woods somewhere, but eventually Elizabeth realized this creaking sound was sort of moving back and forth, back and forth, right outside on the porch, below the open window.
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Suddenly Elizabeth's eyes flew open and she looked at the window because this creaking sound had just intensified and then came to a stop on the immediate other side of this window. Like there was something heavy right outside. Elizabeth sat up to face the window, but she didn't see anything outside through the screen. And so right away she felt totally relieved.
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You know, she didn't know what that sound was, but clearly there was nothing there. However, just to be certain, she decided she would go a little bit closer to the screen and actually look right up close to make sure there was nothing down below on the porch. And so Elizabeth leaned forward and pressed her face to the screen and began to look.
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And as she did, this dark figure down below suddenly rose up and completely blocked out the window. And Elizabeth's looking at it, having no idea what it is. And before she could do anything, this huge thing slashed at the screen and this big reddish furry brown paw with razor sharp claws cut through the screen and nearly cut Elizabeth's face.
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Elizabeth screamed and practically fell over and this dark creature outside turned and bolted and disappeared. And then a moment later, Elizabeth's husband Bobby and his brother came running into the room asking what was going on. Elizabeth was so shocked at what she had just experienced that all she could say to her husband was, it's a bear, it's a bear.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
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Bobby helped Elizabeth off the couch and then told her and his brother's wife to stay in the house and away from the windows. And then Bobby and his brother got shotguns and flashlights and went outside. Once outside, Bobby and his brother began scanning all around the porch area where Elizabeth had apparently seen this bear to see where it was.
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They held their flashlights out and they scanned the tree lines. They looked all over the place, all around the front of the property, but there was no sign of this animal. And so the brothers looked at each other and nodded, and then they both left the porch and went different directions, kind of looping around the back of the house.
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That morning had been cold and damp and gray, but by that afternoon, when Jan was getting ready to go, the temperatures had risen and the sun had come out. Jan's preferred method of hunting was to sit and watch from a tree stand, which is a ladder that you put in the woods that sits about 15 feet high. She would sit up there with her bow and arrow and wait to take a shot when a deer came by.
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They were gonna scan the entire property and meet up at the back. And when they met up at the back, they still hadn't found this bear. And so they walked away from the house towards the tree line and did another big sweep together of the entire perimeter. Again, looking for any sign of this animal, but there was nothing.
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And so after a while of circling the property, the brothers decided that, you know, this bear must have just run off. And so Bobby and his brother returned to the porch to figure out their next move. Both Bobby and his brother were hunters, and they knew that usually the best thing to do with the bears that roamed this area was to leave them alone.
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I mean, these bears could grow to be 500 pounds, and if they were provoked, they could run at 35 miles an hour. And so generally, you just stayed away from these things and they'd leave you alone too. However, as the brothers were sitting there talking through what had happened that night, they both said, you know, it definitely seemed like this bear was different.
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I mean, apparently it was aggressive enough to come right up to the house, unprovoked, and reach in and swipe at Elizabeth. which obviously was not normal bear behavior. And so to Bobby and his brother, this meant that they really couldn't just leave this bear alone. They had to go out there and find it and kill it to protect themselves.
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And so Bobby lit a cigarette to calm his nerves, and then the two brothers came up with a plan for how they were going to go find this bear.
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The audio from all three of these stories has been pulled from our main YouTube channel and has been remastered for today's episode. The links to the original YouTube videos are in the description. The first story you'll hear is called Saran Wrap and it's about a well-documented paranormal event in the forest.
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Bobby's brother would man the front of the house, and Bobby would man the back of the house, and they would stay in their respective positions monitoring the property until either they saw the bear and dealt with it, or until the sun came up, at which point they could go get help.
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And so after agreeing to this plan, Bobby took one final drag on his cigarette, chucked it to the ground, and then with his shotgun in one hand and his flashlight in the other, he stepped off the porch and walked around to the back of the house and stared off into the darkness.
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Bobby had only been in the back of the house for a couple of minutes, manning his post, when he began to smell this horrible smell. Now, at first he thought it was just some sort of wet, musky smell that came over from the swampland nearby, but as he continued to smell it, it got heavier and more pungent. It smelled like a wet, decaying animal.
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Bobby tensed up and aimed his flashlight up at the tree line and began looking back and forth trying to figure out where this horrible smell was coming from. And as he was doing this, he suddenly heard the sound of tree branches snapping off to his left. And so he whipped his flashlight over and shined it. And he saw this big dark figure charging across the property away from him into the forest.
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Bobby instinctively raised his shotgun and fired. And then after shooting, a loud yelp echoed in the air. And then Bobby just took off running in the direction he had just fired. And as he's running across the yard, he's screaming for his brother who had already heard the shotgun blast. So he was coming around the house.
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And the two men linked up, and as they're running in the direction of this bear, Bobby's telling his brother, I think I got it. I shot the bear. But they get over to where Bobby had last seen it and where he heard this yelp come from, and there was nothing. There was no bear. Still, the brothers did feel a little relieved.
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They figured even if they couldn't find this thing, you know, clearly Bobby had hit it. He had heard the sound of it yelping out. And so maybe by at least wounding it, it would stay away and leave them alone. Just then, the men heard the sound of their wives screaming from inside the house.
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Around 5 p.m. that day, she told Bruce she was leaving and she made it to her tree stand by about 5.30. The forest she was going to be hunting in was one she was very familiar with, and it was not very remote. There were a couple houses just outside the woods, there were some agricultural areas, and her nephew actually went to high school just a mile north of these woods.
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The men immediately ran back to the house, and as they got closer, Bobby again began to smell that horrible smell. And right as Bobby's foot hit that first porch step, his brother from behind him screamed out, stop! But it was too late. The bear was on the porch. That's why the women were screaming. They had seen it. And Bobby's brother had seen it, but Bobby hadn't.
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And now he was too close to it to get away. And before Bobby could raise his gun to protect himself, this thing attacked. And Bobby felt this horrible, burning, tearing sensation in his arm. He fell to the ground, twisting wildly back and forth, trying to protect himself. He was pinned underneath this enormous bear, level with its chest, with its arms and legs on either side of him.
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And that horrible smell he was smelling was clearly coming from this animal. That's all he could smell from underneath. But just then, it was like a miracle, because to his side, Bobby could see there was an opening, and so he rolled and somehow got out from underneath this enormous creature.
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Bobby scrambled up to his feet, and he darted past the bear and rammed into the closed front door of the house. It popped open, he fell inside, and his wife ran forward and shut the door behind him, leaving Bobby's brother outside on the porch alone with the bear. But before any of them could do anything about that, they heard the sound of his brother's shotgun going off.
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Then there was a long moment of silence. Inside the house, everybody was frozen. A few seconds later, the door slowly opened and Bobby's brother walked inside. Everyone was too shocked to say anything. So for a second, they all just stared at each other. And then finally, Bobby asked him, is the bear dead? And Bobby's brother, with a trembling voice, said no. And that wasn't a bear.
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As soon as dawn broke and it was not dark outside anymore, Bobby's wife drove him to the hospital where they would treat him for shock and for the wound to his shoulder. They had hoped to find it somewhere on the property, either dead or wounded, based on Bobby's brother's account of having fired at it basically point blank, but the creature was gone. They did find its tracks though,
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And this discovery made it clear that Bobby's brother was right. This wasn't a bear. Because in the dirt surrounding the house were all these bizarre footprints and handprints of a creature that seemed to walk on its hind legs with three toes on each. and had three long sharp claws on its hands.
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And as unbelievable as this all seemed to the police, this actually tracked with what Bobby's brother said he saw when he was out on the porch. He said he saw a creature with reddish-brown hair all over it that stood over seven feet tall and after being shot, it took off running on two legs and it ran fast.
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But the most terrifying thing about it, at least according to Bobby's brother, was actually its eyes. They were blazing red. And when the news of this attack spread to the nearest town, which was called Falk, the people there knew exactly what this creature was.
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But from the tree stand where she was sitting, all she could see around her was trees. Shortly after Jan sat down, she started texting with one of her friends on her Blackberry. and periodically she'd poke her head up and look for deer. There weren't any, and then she'd go back to texting.
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For 200 years, people in that part of Arkansas had been talking about this huge creature that was sort of like a Sasquatch that roamed the forest and the swamps. They said it was fast and elusive, and it ate livestock and pets. They called it the Falk Monster, or sometimes the Boggy Creek Monster.
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But Bobby Ford and his family's encounter with this creature was unlike any other story that had been told about the Falk Monster. While some people claimed in the past that this creature had attacked people, nobody had ever heard of it actually coming up to somebody's house, trying to break in and terrorize a family. Bobby's ordeal would inspire the 1972 horror movie, The Legend of Boggy Creek.
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Over the years, police officers and some scientists have suggested that maybe what Bobby and his brother encountered that night was actually a feral pig. However, authorities have never actually been able to pinpoint what this thing was. Nobody knows.
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And to this day, hikers and hunters near the swamps of Southwest Arkansas and also across the border into East Texas still report run-ins with the legendary Falk Monster. A quick note about our stories, they are all based on true events, but we sometimes use pseudonyms to protect the people involved, and some details are fictionalized for dramatic purposes.
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The whole time this is happening, Jan can hear birds and crickets and squirrels and all the sounds of the forest all around her. A little after 6 p.m., her texting conversation with her friend reached a natural conclusion, and so she went back to just kind of sitting in the tree stand looking around.
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By about 6.20 p.m., she still hadn't seen any deer, and she was starting to get bored, so she decided she would take a selfie. She picked up her Blackberry, She took the selfie and as soon as she was done, she became aware that the forest had suddenly gone completely quiet. No more squirrels, no more birds, no more crickets, just complete silence.
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And she knew as a hunter the only time this happened was when a large predator was in the area and all the other animals went quiet. But Jan would later say there was just something different about this silence. It was so sudden and so complete that it scared her.
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And she wound up sending another text message to that friend she'd been texting earlier that said the woods just went completely silent. Very odd. As soon as Jan hit send on that text message and lowered her phone, she immediately became aware of something about 20 feet away in the tree that was right across from her. And she said it was the most unusual and terrifying thing she had ever seen.
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Moving left to right through the branches was this thing that she described as like a visual distortion. She said it was like looking across pavement on a really hot day and seeing that mirage, except this one looked like it was alive, like it had mass, like it was a see-through person that had been wrapped in saran wrap.
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And so Jan thinks it's a floater in her eyes and so she rubs her eyes and when she looks up this thing has now moved down a branch closer to her and has stopped like it's perched on the branch staring at her.
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And Jan's horrified but she knows she wants to document it so she grabs her phone and she raises it up and she takes a picture on her Blackberry right as this thing kind of disappears behind the tree and vanishes. Just seconds after this thing disappeared, all the sounds in the forest came back.
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The second story you'll hear is called Hellhound and it's about a beast that terrorizes a small African village. And the third and final story you'll hear is called The Swamp Stalker and it's about two brothers who encounter a creature in Arkansas.
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The birds, the squirrels, the crickets, it was all back to normal, but Jan was really shaken up because she just could not make sense of what she just saw. So she just continued to stare in the general direction of where this thing was for several minutes until finally she felt like it was safe again, at which point she brought her phone up to look at the picture she had taken.
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When she looked at it, it looked like a blurry mess. And so she thought, oh, I blew it. I put my hand over it or my hair got in the way of it or something. But at the same time, she's thinking to herself, but my hair didn't get in the way of it. And I very clearly held it out in front of me and know that I was looking at my phone when I took it and I had a clear shot of this thing.
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So I don't really understand how this photo got so messed up. But after looking at the picture for a little while, she started to kind of laugh at herself. You know, the idea that she'd just seen a saran wrap person running through the treetops. You know, she just felt like that didn't happen. It must have been in my head. And as for this picture, I probably just blocked the lens and that's it.
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That night when Jan got back to her house, she did not tell her husband Bruce about what happened to her in the tree stand because, again, she's telling herself it was all in her head. They have dinner, they clean up, they sit down in the living room, and they're both on their phones, and they're just kind of scrolling through the internet and their emails.
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And at some point, Bruce reacts to something he's reading. He makes a sound. And Jan hears him and says, oh, what are you looking at? And he said, you know, I just got a really interesting email from our nephew, you know, the one that goes to school down the road. He said that today they were outside for band practice.
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And at some point all of them turned to look at the forest and there was a bright circular light that was kind of hovering in the forest. And I guess they all stared at it for about five or 10 seconds. And then at some point the light kind of went back into the forest and they didn't know what to make of it. And I guess one of his classmates said that a year before the exact same thing happened,
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And it apparently scared their instructor so badly that they canceled rehearsal and went inside because of it. As Jan is listening to her husband read this email, she's sitting up and her heart is racing. And as soon as he finishes, she says, what time did he say that happened? Bruce picked up how intensely she was asking him.
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And so he looked at the email, looked back at his wife and was like, it was between 7.50 and 8.00. Why? At this point, Jan revealed everything that had happened to her while she was hunting, you know, seeing that visual distortion in the trees that looked like a figure of some kind.
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But before we get into today's stories, if you're a fan of the Strange, Dark, and Mysterious delivered in story format, then you've come to the right podcast because that's all we do and we upload twice a week, once on Monday and once on Thursday.
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And she would tell him that the forest she was in was the same one their nephew was claiming to have seen this circular light floating inside of. She told him she tried to take a picture of the thing she saw, but the picture didn't come out. But her husband, who is an optical physicist and therefore an expert at analyzing a picture, said, here, let me take a look at it.
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As soon as he looked at the image, the first thing he asked her was, well, did your hair get in front of the lens? And she said, no, I was holding it about a foot away from my head and my hair was in a ponytail and a ball cap. So that can't be my hair. And so he looked at it again and he asked her, well, did you put your finger over the lens maybe? And she said, yeah, I might have.
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I don't think I did, but it's certainly possible. And so not really thinking much of this picture, he decides before giving the phone back to just check the resolution of the image, because whenever he would examine a picture, that was something he would do. And he discovered an anomaly. It turns out Jan's Blackberry was only capable of taking pictures in three distinct resolutions.
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Basically, the size of the image could only come in small, medium, or large. And this picture she had taken of this thing she saw in the trees was a resolution size that was not small, medium, or large. It was some random size that the phone was actually not capable of producing. And so he asked his wife, like, did you manipulate your resolution settings?
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And she said, no, I don't even know how to do that. So Bruce looked at the other couple of pictures she had taken that day, and all of those fell into the small, medium, or large resolution size. It was just this one picture that was a total anomaly. And so Bruce was suddenly really intrigued by this image and by his wife's story.
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And so he continued to study the image and he kept asking his wife questions about, you know, how she was positioned in the tree stand and where the sun was and how far away this thing was and everything about the whole layout. And eventually Bruce started conducting experiments to see if he could duplicate this image his wife had created.
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And he got pretty scientific about it and he could not duplicate it. Ultimately, because Bruce trusts his wife did not alter the photo in any way, and he trusts his wife as being truthful about what she experienced in the tree stand, you know, what she saw, and based on his years of being an optical physicist, Bruce believes whatever was in the trees distorted this image.
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So if that's of interest to you, please take the Amazon Music Follow button out to pet some furry cute animals at the zoo, but instead of taking them to the zoo, take them to pet a pack of wild hungry hyenas and stack their pockets full of hot dogs. Okay, let's get into our first story called Saran Wrap.
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That even if she had put her finger over the lens, which he doesn't think she did, and she doesn't think she did, the picture resolution was altered in such a way that something had to have an effect on it. There was a third-party effect on this picture. If you're listening to this podcast, then chances are good you are a fan of The Strange, Dark, and Mysterious.
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And if that's the case, then I've got some good news. We just launched a brand new Strange, Dark, and Mysterious podcast called Mr. Ballin's Medical Mysteries. And as the name suggests, it's a show about medical mysteries. a genre that many fans have been asking us to dive into for years, and we finally decided to take the plunge, and the show is awesome.
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Our next story is called Hellhound. On the evening of August 1st, 2015, a 20-year-old man named Frazer Beloyi walked alone down a main road toward his village in the South African province of Limpopo. Frazer was on his way home from work, and he was pretty desperate to get there.
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It was only about 7.30 p.m., and usually around this time, Frazer was used to seeing other people out and about on this road, just kind of walking around in the dusk or chatting or doing various errands, but tonight there was nobody out there. And in fact, in recent days, this area of Limpopo had basically become a ghost town.
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Nobody went out unless they absolutely had to, because over the last 10 days, over 20 people in this area had been brutally mauled. The victims had all insisted that the creature that had mauled them was some kind of four-legged demon, and they had begun calling it the beast. Now, Fraser considered himself a pretty level-headed person who did not necessarily buy into the hype around this beast.
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He figured it was very likely just a dog. But still, he didn't want to get attacked. And so as he walked down this vacant road, he periodically looked over his shoulder just to make sure no dog was following him. As Fraser continued to walk along, he looked up and saw the huge forest fire that was raging on a mountain miles and miles off in the distance.
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A few days ago, the fire had started, and from Fraser's perspective, it still seemed to be going strong. In fact, in the darkness, it almost looked like the mountain was glowing red.
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Just then, Fraser noticed the turnoff for the shortcut that would take him through some forest back to his home, and when he got there, he stopped and looked over his shoulder one more time to make sure he was still all alone, and he was, and then he stepped off the main road, into the woods, and into the darkness. Under the tree canopy, the night suddenly seemed a lot darker.
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Fraser did his best to think about the chores he needed to do for his mother once he got home instead of thinking about the beast. But he'd only been on this path for about 300 feet when he suddenly heard a rustling from behind him. And so right away, Fraser stopped and turned around and looked where the noise was coming from. But all he saw was darkness. There was nothing there.
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And so Fraser, for a whole minute, just stood there staring out into the tree line, waiting for something to move. But nothing did. And so Fraser told himself he was just being paranoid. Everything was fine. Then he turned back around and kept on walking. But pretty quickly, his walk turned into a jog. And he was almost to the end of this path, almost out of the forest. He could see his village.
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It was right there when he heard noises behind him again. Except now, in addition to the rustling sounds, he heard a new sound. It was like a wheezing sound, like a sick animal that was breathing heavily. Now, Frazer knew he was not just being paranoid. Something was out there, and it seemed like it might be following him.
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Without slowing down, Frazer looked over his shoulder again to see what was out there, but again, he just saw nothing. It was just shadows. However, when he turned back around and kept on going towards his village, he heard this loud crashing sound behind him, like a massive animal had leapt out of the brush and landed on the path behind him.
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And so Frazer was immediately so scared he couldn't even turn around. He just started sprinting toward the village and all he could hear behind him were these loud pounding footsteps as whatever this was was gaining on him. And so Frazer was so instantly terrified that instinctively he just started sprinting off without even looking behind him. And so as he's running, this thing's gaining on him.
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And again, he can hear this awful wheezing sound coming from whatever this is, as if there was something wrong with its lungs. And in Fraser's panic, as he's sprinting through the forest, Fraser's telling himself, it's just got to be a rabid dog. That's why it's making those sounds. But he knew that didn't track. This thing is huge. This can't just be a rabid dog.
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And so Fraser just kept on running and running. And finally, he got out of the trees, back into his village. And at the exact same moment, the pounding footsteps behind him came to a stop. But again, Fraser, he didn't turn around. He's too scared. He just ran for his door. His house was right there in front of him. And he gets to his door. He's about to open it up.
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And right as he does, he feels this searing pain in his neck. This creature, whatever it was, had leapt and grabbed onto him and bit down on the back of his neck. And so Frazer crumpled to the ground and threw his arms up over his head to protect himself. And with one eye, he could see it's this massive black creature on top of him, chewing on the lower half of his face.
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Dr. Ferreira paced anxiously as he learned what was going on. There was a huge crisis taking place in Goiânia and he needed to act quickly. He scribbled down the address to the public health office where the bag was and then ran out the door and went to a nearby office to grab some equipment.
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He carefully switched on the piece of equipment, but right away, it seemed like the device was malfunctioning. And no matter how much Dr. Ferreira struggled to adjust the equipment, it just wouldn't work. The readings were just so impossible that he assumed it had to be broken. Dr. Ferreira was frustrated. Now he would need to go back to his office and swap out this broken device for a new one.
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So he let the receptionist know he'd be back as soon as possible. Almost two hours later, Dr. Ferreira returned with a replacement piece of equipment. When he turned that one on, the exact same thing happened. The readings were impossible. He tried turning it on and off several times, but he just kept getting these totally incredible readings.
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After a few minutes, Dr. Ferreira was horrified to realize that he had been wrong. both of these devices had been working perfectly fine, and that meant the reality of this situation was much, much worse. If this situation didn't get handled, the whole city of Goiânia could have a catastrophic health crisis on their hands, and maybe all of Brazil could have a health crisis on their hands.
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So Dr. Ferreira knew he needed to get to that bag. Dr. Ferreira ran inside the building and was met by the facility's director. Ferreira asked where this bag was, but the director explained that he had become concerned about the bag's contents, so he had called in the fire brigade for assistance.
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In fact, the firefighters were already there and were about to take the bag from the building's courtyard. Their plan was to dispose of it in a nearby stream. Dr. Ferreira ran into the courtyard and saw a group of firefighters surrounding the bag. He yelled for them to stop and that if they threw it in the water, it would trigger a horrific disaster.
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He warned them not to touch it and insisted that everyone just evacuate the building. Once Dr. Ferreira was able to explain what was happening, the firefighters realized just how serious this situation was and they helped him clear the area. But the day was far from over. Dr. Ferreira knew he needed to track down Maria and speak to her about the contents of this bag.
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He located her at a hospital, but her condition had now worsened to the point where she was just too weak to even talk. But she was able to instruct Dr. Ferreira to just go to her family's junkyard, where he would find her husband, and he could answer any questions the doctor might have. It was noon by the time Dr. Ferreira and his colleague got to Maria and Debayer's scrapyard.
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When they arrived, they saw Debayer working next to his garage. Dr. Ferreira introduced himself and tried to shake Devayer's hand, but Devayer politely refused, and then he showed them the inside of his hand, and there was this huge open sore on his palm. Dr. Ferreira looked at it and then immediately shot a look of worry at his colleague.
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The doctor knew this type of wound on Devayer's hand could only be caused by one thing, and it was the thing that Dr. Ferreira feared the most. Devayer told them that this whole situation began 11 days earlier on September 18th. That morning, around 10 a.m., a young man had stopped by their scrapyard and told him about some scrap metal he'd found and wanted to sell.
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He had never seen anything like it and thought it was valuable. Devayer said he was interested and told the young man to bring it over. Later that day, the young man returned, now hauling something in a wheelbarrow. Inside this wheelbarrow were the disassembled pieces of a large metal contraption. There was also a small capsule shaped like an oversized thermos.
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De Bayer thought both items were made of stainless steel, which would earn him a nice profit. But after De Bayer examined the capsule more closely, he became even more excited. It was lined with lead, which was an even more valuable metal. De Bayer paid the man the equivalent of about 30 US dollars and brought his new purchases into his garage.
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He left them there before heading inside to eat dinner. Once he was done eating, he headed back to the garage to start extracting the lead. But when Devayer opened back up the garage doors, he was amazed by what he now saw inside. A strange blue glow was now coming from the thermos-shaped capsule. Devayer was a deeply spiritual man and thought he might have encountered something supernatural.
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He grabbed the metal capsule and called Maria into the garage so she could see it too. When Maria saw its unusual glow, she was just as mystified as Devayer. They took a closer look and saw that the blue light was coming through a small window on the side of the capsule.
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The window looked like it had already been punctured with a screwdriver, probably by the young man who had just sold it to Devayer. Maria thought there could be a priceless gemstone hidden inside, but Devayer was sure that it was actually a holy relic that would bring blessings and good fortune to the family. Devayer was determined to continue examining this object.
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So he poked around the small opening with a screwdriver and removed what appeared to be several small pellets of a glittery bluish powder. The pellets were part of a slightly bigger pile that still sat deep inside the capsule. For all de Baer knew, this luminous powder could be worth thousands of dollars. It could change their lives in a way they'd never imagined.
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As Devayer told the doctors of this discovery, he remembered how special he felt handling the powder, and he wanted his whole family to experience it. This was the good luck charm they shared at their big family dinner. Over the next few days, Devayer shared his discovery with more family and friends and neighbors, and each time someone came over, he brought out the special glitter.
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Small groups of people gathered around the capsule and peered through the broken window to admire the glowing powder inside. Many touched the small pellets Devayer had extracted. Seeing how excited everyone was about the powder made Devayer determined to extract the rest of it from the capsule.
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So a friend came over and, using a screwdriver, helped him remove fragments from behind the glass window. Eventually, they did get it all out. The entire pile was small enough to fit in the palm of Devayer's hand. Once all the powder had been extracted, De Bayer gave the capsule to two of his employees and asked them to melt it down for metal and sell it to a nearby scrapyard.
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Then he brought some of the powder to Maria, who in turn dusted it all over her pajamas and bedsheets. De Bayer gave a grain-sized fragment to his brother, the bus driver, who rubbed it on his hands before heading into work. And on his shift as a bus driver, he came into contact with dozens of people.
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Another one of Devier's brothers dipped his finger in the blue powder and traced a cross on his abdomen for divine protection. Maria's mother handled some of the powder while she was taking care of Maria, and then she too became ill. Around that same time, Devayer had given some fragments to his brother Ivo.
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And later, Ivo's daughter, Leiji, played with the glittery crystals and rubbed them all over her hands and arms. And then immediately after doing that, she had eaten her egg sandwich and become ill right away. Devayer also shared his good luck charm with several neighbors, who began having symptoms as well.
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After Maria had spent days wondering what might have caused so many people to get sick so quickly, she finally realized they all had one thing in common. They all had come in contact with this mysterious blue powder.
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So, on the morning of September 28th, 10 days after buying this capsule, Maria told Devayer she was taking what was left of the powder and the capsule to the local health agency to be analyzed. She placed these remnants in a large cloth bag, then she headed out with one of Devayer's employees to retrieve the parts of the capsule that had been sold to the other scrapyards.
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She managed to collect most of it. Those were also placed in the bag that Maria brought to the public health office. The story confirmed Dr. Ferreira's worst fears. He asked Devayer about the young man who first sold him the capsule and where he'd gotten it. Devayer said he wasn't sure, but he thought it might have come from some sort of abandoned facility that was located nearby.
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Dr. Ferreira turned to his colleague and saw that the other doctor's face had now gone white because he knew exactly where that capsule had come from. It was a clinic that had closed two years earlier. a cancer treatment clinic. The capsule had come from a radiation therapy machine, and the magical blue powder that was inside wasn't from a precious gemstone.
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The powder was a highly radioactive material called cesium-137. When properly contained in the capsule, the powder's destructive capabilities could be used for focused cancer treatments. But without that protective shell, the powder became one of the most lethal substances on earth.
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Each week, I dive into some of the most bizarre, mind-bending medical stories you've ever heard. Cases that leave doctors scratching their heads, miraculous recoveries that defy logic, and strange medical mishaps that seem too wild to be real. These stories are more than just eerie. They are a reminder of how unpredictable and sometimes terrifying life can be.
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Maria and the others were not suffering from a tropical disease or any of the other things that doctors first thought. They were experiencing massive radiation poisoning, and the lesions they had developed were radiation burns. The handful of powder that Devayer found was enough to make more than 200 people extremely ill and place thousands more in danger.
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Dr. Ferreira knew all this because he was a medical physicist and the tool he had tried to use outside of the public health agency was a radiation detector. He thought both detectors were broken because they were making so much noise and their readings were so high they were literally off the charts. But the detectors were correct.
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They were reading such high levels of radiation in the vicinity of where this bag was that contained the powder that the federal government would have to get involved. And now that Dr. Ferreira had confirmed just how serious the situation had become, he contacted Brazil's Nuclear Energy Commission.
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Within a matter of hours, they started testing thousands of Goiânia's residents for radiation poisoning in the city's sports stadium. On the morning of September 30th, 13 days after Devayer bought the capsule, workers in hazmat suits arrived in the courtyard of the health agency to properly dispose of the bag that contained the radioactive material.
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The abandoned cancer clinic where the blue powder was first discovered was demolished as well. On October 23rd, Maria Ferreira finally died. Her niece, Leiji, also died on the same day. They were each buried in special fiberglass lead-lined coffins to prevent radiation from leaking out.
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By the end of the month, Devayer's two young employees also died as a result of the exposure they had received when they melted down the capsule for Devayer. While Maria's husband, Devayer, survived the tragedy, he never mentally recovered. Devayer died in 1994, seven years later.
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Thankfully, no one else died from the radiation exposure, but many others sustained amputations, severe burn scars, and lifelong medical conditions. The Goiânia incident remains one of history's deadliest disasters involving medical radiation. From Ballin Studios and Wondery, this is Mr. Ballin's Medical Mysteries, hosted by me, Mr. Ballin.
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A quick reminder, the content in this episode is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. This episode was written by Lauren DeLille. Our editor is Heather Dundas. Sound design is by Matthew Cilelli. Coordinating producer is Sophia Martins. Our senior producer is Alex Benidon.
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Our associate producers and researchers are Sarah Vytak and Natalie Bettendorf. Fact-checking was done by Sheila Patterson. For Ballin Studios, our producer is Alyssa Tommenang. Our head of production is Zach Levitt. Executive producers are myself, Mr. Ballin, and Nick Witters. For Wondery, senior managing producer is Ryan Lohr. Our head of sound is Marcelino Villapondo.
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Head to squarespace.com slash ballin to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or domain using code ballin. That's squarespace.com slash ballin, code ballin for 10% off your first purchase. This week's story is called A Change in Fortune. On the hot evening of September 20th, 1987, 37-year-old Maria Ferreira hosted a lively family gathering at her small home in Goiânia, Brazil.
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Goiânia was a cosmopolitan city with nearly a million people. Gleaming skyscrapers and tropical fruit trees lined the wealthy downtown area. But there were also areas of extreme poverty. Maria and her husband, Davaier, lived in one of these lower-income neighborhoods where they owned and operated a scrapyard on their property. It was hard work, especially in the intense tropical heat.
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But Maria and Davaier made a great team. Maria liked to joke that even though Davaier was short and stocky, he always had his head in the clouds. Davaier would tease Maria when she took things too seriously, saying that that was why she had a gray streak in her long brown hair. But on this night, Maria was totally relaxed.
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There was plenty of delicious food and drink with people she loved, and they were able to pay for it because they had a little extra money from selling more scrap metal than usual. Maria and Dabayer had also acquired a rare good luck charm a few days earlier. They never had much in the way of material possessions, but they tried to find beauty in their everyday life.
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This time, it was in a trinket Dabayer had found. As they passed it around the table, she felt grateful for all the good fortune that had come their way. In the chair next to Maria, De Bayer scooped a spoonful of black bean and pork stew onto his plate. He was listening to his brother, who was a bus driver, tell a story. He always had something funny to share from one of his routes.
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De Bayer's other brother, Ivo, was there as well with his wife and their six-year-old daughter, Lei Ji. The little girl's big brown eyes and joyful laugh filled Maria with love. Lei Ji was the closest thing she had had to a daughter since she didn't have any children of her own. It was the perfect night, and that called for a toast.
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Once everyone refilled their glasses, Maria raised hers in the air and thanked her family for coming. They all cheered and drank to the future. Later, after everyone left, Devayer went into the garage to finish up some work. As Maria washed coffee cups and put away plates, she could hear thunder in the distance.
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The next morning, on September 21st, Maria woke to the sound of rain pelting her tin rooftop. Goiânia's rainy season normally ran from October to April, but this year it had started earlier than usual. As Maria climbed out of bed, she noticed that she didn't feel well. Her body was stiff and her stomach felt upset.
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She wrote off her discomfort to the previous night's festivities and tried to carry on with her day. But as time passed, Maria was starting to feel increasingly sick until finally, after a few hours, she started violently vomiting. Now, the pain in Maria's stomach was so bad that she decided she needed to see a doctor right away. She slowly got dressed and walked out to tell Devayer.
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Maria found him working in the scrapyard. It was cluttered with old refrigerators, large pieces of sheet metal, and disassembled machines. Devayer offered to take her, but she said she didn't want to distract him from his work, so she told him she could get there on her own. Maria took a bus to a nearby hospital and was able to see a doctor right away.
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After the doctor examined her, he said everything was fine. She must be having an allergic reaction to something she ate. Maria was relieved it wasn't something more serious. She found it hard to believe she could be this sick from food she was used to eating, but the doctor reassured her and said to go home and rest and she would feel better soon. But that evening, Maria still felt just as sick.
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She called her mom, who lived in a neighboring town, and asked her to come stay for a few days. Maria's mother took a bus there right away, and once she got there, she did her best to nurse her daughter back to health, feeding her broth and herbs. But whatever Maria had caught, it just wasn't going away.
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Even worse, Maria's mother soon started to feel sick too, with the same symptoms of fever and upset stomach that Maria had. So two days later, Maria's mom had to return back to her home to rest and recuperate as well. Maria was confused. If she was suffering from a food allergy like the doctor thought, why would her mom have gotten sick too?
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So now she thought maybe she'd come down with the flu and her mother had just caught it from her. So when her brother-in-law, Ivo, stopped by the house on September 24th, Maria tried to keep her distance from him. She'd been sick for four days and didn't wanna risk passing anything on. Ivo didn't stay long at Maria and Devayer's house, and soon he got back to his own home right in time for lunch.
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His wife had put out some egg sandwiches, and after Ivo and his wife had sat down to eat, they called in their daughter, Leiji, to come join them. But Leiji was having too much fun playing with her dolls, her glitter, and her coloring books. Finally, Leiji did abandon her toys and took her seat at the table with her parents. But just 10 minutes after eating, Leiji threw up.
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We put out new episodes every week, and each one dives into a bizarre, mind-bending medical mystery that will leave you questioning what you thought you knew about the human body. In 1987, a woman walked into a public health center in Goiânia, Brazil, desperate for help. She was pale and weak, and she said a strange sickness was slowly killing her family.
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Then later that afternoon, Ivo and his wife got sick too. At first they thought it was the eggs they had for lunch, but Ivo soon realized this wasn't just a case of food poisoning. It seemed like almost everyone who had gone to the Ferrera household recently was getting sick. And by now, that included Devayer, who was feeling nauseous, as well as his mother, who had come by to visit.
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The list grew to include two of Devayer's brothers and a handful of their children. The sickness had even spread to several of the neighbors who had visited with Maria and Devayer. Two of Devayer's scrapyard employees had also become ill, all in the span of a week.
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When Maria found out about the growing number of people who were getting sick, she was horrified, and she became even more afraid when she noticed something else very disturbing. There were these red lesions that were showing up on her skin that were painful to the touch. By September 27th, nearly a week after first getting sick, Maria's stomach pain was unbearable.
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As she lay curled up in bed listening to the rain falling outside, she thought back to that last night she felt healthy. It was the same night she had hosted the big family gathering. Maria tried to remember everything she had done that night. Then she realized something. There was only one thing that everyone who had gotten sick over the last 10 days had in common.
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Maria could barely move, but she knew what she had to do next. If she didn't get to the bottom of this mystery, her whole family could be in serious danger. And so, on the next morning, she willed herself out of bed and slowly managed to get dressed. Then she gathered the evidence she needed in a cloth sack.
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Maria knew where she wanted to take it, and it wasn't to the hospital where she'd been before. She was going somewhere that had the authority to help her. The only issue was, she needed someone to go with her. She was too exhausted to make the trip on her own. Devayer wasn't feeling well enough to go with her, so she asked another scrapyard employee to accompany her.
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Maria let the young man carry the bag she'd packed. She was so weak she could barely keep moving. Just down the street, they boarded a crowded bus, and about a half hour later, they got off near an office called the Vigilância Sanitária. This was a public health agency that regulated pharmaceuticals, food products, and sanitary conditions.
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It was basically the Brazilian equivalent of the Food and Drug Administration in the United States. Maria thought that if anybody could figure out what was making her and her family so sick, it would be someone at this agency. She and her companion entered the plain brick building through a courtyard and were taken into the office belonging to the agency's director.
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The young man helping Maria dropped the bag he was carrying on the official's desk. Then Maria wiped her flushed face with a handkerchief and explained what it was. She said the contents of the bag were killing her family. The official just stared at her. He looked inside the bag and seemed confused. The items inside didn't look particularly dangerous. He said what really concerned him was Maria.
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Maria knew she was sweating and visibly shaking, and she noticed his expression as he looked at all the lesions and burn-like marks on her arms. The official told her that right now, she just needed to see a doctor. but he did promise he would take a closer look at what was in the bag.
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And, just to be safe, the official put the bag on a chair in the building's courtyard, then made sure Maria knew how to get to the nearest health clinic. Maria was skeptical. The last time she'd seen a doctor, he'd given her the wrong diagnosis. But she didn't know what else to do, so she and her companion left the agency and headed to the bus stop.
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Maria insisted that her companion return to the scrapyard and get back to work. Unsure and scared about what she would find out, Maria boarded the bus alone. A short time later, a doctor at this clinic carefully examined Maria and then gave her a new diagnosis. He said she was right. She was not experiencing an allergic reaction or food poisoning.
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What she had was a tropical disease, and her family and friends who were sick probably had it too. He explained that the unusually heavy rains had been spawning mosquitoes and a host of other bugs that carried infectious diseases. A virus like dengue or Zika would explain her symptoms, including the burn-like lesions she'd developed.
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The doctor assured Maria that this was all very manageable and that everything would be okay. Then he arranged to have her transported to the Tropical Diseases Hospital for specialized treatment. Maria's unease lightened and she even managed a weak smile. She finally had a real explanation for what was happening to her and her family.
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The official who saw the woman thought she was exaggerating, but just 24 hours later, he realized she was the key to solving one of the worst disasters in Brazil's history. From Ballin Studios and Wondery, I'm Mr. Ballin, and this is Mr. Ballin's Medical Mysteries, where every week we will explore a new baffling mystery originating from the one place we all can't escape, our own bodies.
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It was a relief to think that the bag she had left at the health agency didn't actually have anything to do with a tropical virus. Less than an hour later, Maria arrived at the Tropical Diseases Hospital. As a doctor took her vitals, she asked if he knew what type of virus was going around.
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But instead of answering her question, the doctor gently took her arm and began closely examining her skin lesions. Then he called one of the nurses over to look at them. The nurse said she'd seen some other patients with similar burns in the last few days. Suddenly, the doctor's face turned serious. which made Maria extremely nervous. He continued to examine her, and then he stepped back.
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He explained that the doctor at the previous health clinic had been wrong too. Maria's symptoms did not line up with any kind of tropical disease he'd ever treated. In fact, this doctor was afraid Maria's symptoms were connected to another sickness entirely, and if he was even partially correct, they would need to move quickly. This could be a dangerous situation.
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The doctor asked her detailed questions about the past several days, and Maria shared everything she could remember. She could see the alarm spread across his face the more they talked. Maria felt a terrible wave of panic and nausea start to wash over her, and then she felt like she needed to tell him about the bag.
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So she explained that she had brought this bag and left it at the public health agency in hopes that they would analyze it. As soon as she said this, the doctor quickly excused himself and ran as fast as he could to the phone. He called a physician at the state's Department of the Environment.
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He tried to hide the rising panic in his voice as he explained the urgency of the situation and that action needed to be taken immediately. Both doctors agreed that the bag Maria brought to the public health office had to be examined as soon as possible to prevent the spread of what was making everyone sick. The doctor at the Department of the Environment knew a specialist named Walter Ferreira.
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Dr. Ferreira, who had no relation to Maria and her family, would be able to properly analyze the bag's contents. But because it was late in the evening, they wouldn't be able to contact him until the next day. Early the next morning, Dr. Ferreira was getting dressed when his phone rang. It was the doctor from the Department of the Environment calling.
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And after those scientists came back and checked in with Dr. Akram, it was clear they had not had a sort of breakthrough moment with regards to what was going on with these boys, but they were very convinced that this was a real condition. And so Dr. Akram decided that he and his team would just continue to study this family until they figured out what the heck was going on with these two boys.
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And finally, a year later in May of 2017, Dr. Akram believed he had figured out what was wrong with them and he even had a solution. But his solution was so simple that Dr. Akram actually kind of second guessed himself thinking, you know, this is too good to be true. So the doctor decided he would run one more experiment just to test his theory and make sure he really was correct.
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And so Dr. Akram flew Abdul, Shoaib, and their father out to his institute in Islamabad. And that night, Dr. Akram watched as the two boys slowly slipped into paralysis as the sun went down. But this time, as soon as the paralysis was clearly beginning, Dr. Akram gave each of the boys a pill.
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Then 40 minutes would go by, and suddenly, Abdul, who was totally mute and laying there still, broke into a smile, and then he raised his right leg. And then Shoaib, right next to him, he too smiled and turned his head. And then 20 minutes after that, both boys were up on their feet, totally fine, laughing and joking, because they had never really done anything at night.
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They were always paralyzed as soon as it started to get dark. It would turn out Dr. Akram and his team had discovered a very strange mutation in Abdul and Shoaib. Our brains naturally produce all sorts of chemicals that keep them running, and one of those chemicals is called dopamine. Dopamine does several things, but one of those things is it controls muscle movement.
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The mutation that Dr. Akram and his team had discovered was that the boy's genes were mistakenly shutting off dopamine production every single night. And so that was why they were becoming totally paralyzed. This mutation was the result of a series of complex genetic mistakes, but the fix was actually quite simple. The pill that Dr. Akram gave Abdul and Shoaib was just a dopamine pill.
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And what it did is it basically just turned the boys' bodies back on. And so Dr. Akram and his team had discovered quite possibly the world's rarest disease only afflicting one family. But fortunately they had also found the cure too. And so Abdul and Shoaib from that day forward lived totally normal lives by taking their dopamine pills every night. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp.
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That's rocketmoney.com slash ballin. rocketmoney.com slash ballin. The next and final story of today's episode is called Leg Pain. On the afternoon of February 1st, 2013, a retired Army veteran named Robert Smith limped his way into the emergency room at the Veterans Affairs Medical Center in Washington, D.C.,
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Robert checked in at the triage desk, but then instead of sitting down with the rest of the patients who were waiting, he leaned up against the wall and just grimaced. Robert was in his late 60s, and up until just a few days ago, he felt like he was in the best health he had been in since leaving the service.
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Robert had gotten a kidney transplant a year and a half earlier, and after getting that operation, he really wanted to make sure he stayed healthy, and so he had been going on regular walks and eating healthy, and so really he was doing great.
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But a few days ago, Robert had noticed this throbbing pain in his right hip that was shooting pain all the way down his right leg, and he assumed, you know, this had to be from maybe overdoing it on one of his walks. But the pain had continued to get worse and worse over the last few days, and so that was why he was finally here at the hospital.
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A nurse eventually called Robert's name, and so Robert, he came off the wall and hobbled over to her, and she led him down a hallway into an exam room. Once they got inside the room, the nurse would take Robert's vitals, which were all normal, and then after doing that, she said she was going to go out and get the doctor.
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A couple minutes later, the doctor walked into the room and she reviewed Robert's chart and talked to Robert about his symptoms. And then afterwards, she concluded that very likely what Robert had was something called sciatica. Sciatica is pain caused by pressure on the sciatic nerve, which travels from the lower back down each leg.
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And while sciatica is definitely very uncomfortable and very painful, it's not usually a big deal. And it typically clears up on its own without treatment. And so the doctor told Robert that he should just go pick up some ibuprofen, so over-the-counter pain medication, and take that every couple of hours and just wait for this thing to pass, and then he'd be fine.
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And so Robert was totally relieved. He thanked the doctor, he thanked the nurse, and then he left and headed back to his home. But despite doing what the doctor said and taking pain meds and just kind of taking it easy, the pain in Robert's leg did not go away.
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And then on the morning of February 4th, so three days after Robert's trip to the ER, he woke up and not only was his right hip and leg still sore, but now when he tried to stand up, he couldn't put any weight on his right leg. It just felt too weak and it was kind of tingly. You know, something just felt off about it. And also Robert felt very nauseous.
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And so Robert told himself that, you know, maybe what was going on here is he was taking too much ibuprofen and it was upsetting his stomach and maybe it was also affecting his leg negatively or something. He didn't know. And so that day he just sat on the couch and watched TV trying to tell himself that he was OK. It's just sciatica, you know, take a little less pain meds and you'll be OK.
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But that didn't work because the next day when he woke up, he was in even worse shape. Now he not only had this pain and weakness in his right leg and he had nausea still, but also he now had this new pain in his abdomen that was located right around where the scar was from his kidney transplant, and Robert was also starting to spike a fever.
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And fevers in transplant patients are a really big deal, because a fever in a transplant patient could mean an infection. People who get transplants are then given medication that keep their bodies from rejecting their new organ or organs. This medication works by basically suppressing that person's immune system.
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This prevents the body from mistakenly attacking the new organ, but it also means that if their body gets a real infection, they will have a really hard time fighting it off. Because again, this medicine is basically stopping the immune system.
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And so when Robert saw he had a fever in conjunction with these other symptoms that were not going away, he knew he had to go back to the hospital because obviously this was not just sciatica. Robert was too sick and weak to drive himself to the hospital, so he asked his neighbor to drive him.
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And as they were driving to the hospital, you know, Robert basically sat in the passenger seat rocking back and forth, not saying anything because he was so uncomfortable. And the neighbor, the whole time they're driving, they just kept looking over at Robert because not only did Robert look totally miserable, but also Robert was sweating profusely.
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Like so much so that it looked like he had just sprinted a 5K. I mean, he was drenched in sweat. And so the neighbors looking at him thinking like, what's wrong with this guy? Finally, the neighbor arrived at the hospital and Robert, he managed to get out on his own and he thanked the neighbor. And then Robert hobbled his way back through the doors into the ER.
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And then a few minutes later, Robert was in an exam room and his doctor walked in and she took one look at him and saw how horrible he looked. And without any hesitation, she said, you're getting admitted right now. It was clear to Robert's doctors that he had some kind of virus or infection that his body was trying and failing to fight off.
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When they tested his blood, they saw his white blood cell count was elevated, which is a sign that the body's immune system is launching some kind of a response. But the doctors didn't know what his immune system was responding to. Even though Robert had this acute pain in his abdomen around the site of the kidney transplant, his kidneys seemed to be working just fine.
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And so whatever was going on with him didn't seem to be linked to his transplant. The profuse sweating did seem pretty odd, but considering Robert had a really high fever, it wasn't totally inexplicable. So basically Robert's symptoms were weird, but kind of generic. They didn't tell the doctors specifically what was wrong with him. They just knew something was wrong.
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So they just hooked Robert up to an IV and began administering a broad spectrum antibiotic, which is something that treats a whole variety of different infections. And then after that, the doctors just began testing Robert over and over and over again for all these different things that could be the cause for his illness. But every test they ran came back negative.
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And at the same time, over the couple of weeks that they ran all these tests, Robert just kept getting sicker and sicker and sicker. His fever wasn't going away, he was still sweating profusely, his blood pressure was all over the map, and he had even begun drooling almost uncontrollably to the point where he didn't even speak because he was so embarrassed about it.
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But to the doctors, the scariest symptom that Robert was now showing two weeks into staying at the hospital was he was starting to act really confused. Like he didn't know where he was. He didn't know why he was there. And so that told the doctors that, you know, whatever his body was fighting, it had made its way up into his brain.
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And so the doctors knew, you know, Robert did not have much time left, but they had tried every test they could think of. And Robert had tested negative for all of them. And so, as kind of like a Hail Mary because they had nothing to lose, the medical staff decided to just start testing Robert for basically completely random diseases that he almost certainly did not have.
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But basically, if any of these illnesses had a symptom that Robert had, they would test him for it. And all these tests came back negative, except for one. On February 22nd, so 17 days after Robert had been admitted to the hospital, this test came back positive. And when the doctors saw what he was testing positive for, they immediately assumed this has to be a mistake.
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There is no way he has that. However, the only way to truly confirm that diagnosis was to literally cut into Robert's brain, which would kill him. And so obviously they were not gonna do that. So the doctors basically just had to take this diagnosis at face value, and they tried giving various medications to Robert, but it was obvious none of them were working.
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And so the doctors felt like there wasn't much they could do, and they just began focusing instead on keeping Robert comfortable. And then finally, on February 27th, so 22 days into Robert's stay at the hospital, he would die from this mystery illness.
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During Robert's autopsy, the medical examiner was able to perform that test that doctors could not perform on him when he was alive, and that was to cut into his brain. And when the doctor cut into his brain, he saw very clearly, without a shadow of a doubt, that yes, Robert really was positive for that very, very rare virus, and it absolutely is the thing that killed him.
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But this was not the end of the case, because the virus that killed Robert was not just rare, it was also highly contagious, which meant the doctors needed to figure out how Robert got this virus to protect other people from getting it too.
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But the staff at this hospital knew they were not equipped to lead this investigation, and so they handed the case over to the Centers for Disease Control, or the CDC, which is the world's leading disease tracking agency. Investigators for the CDC began looking into Robert's case a couple of days later.
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They sifted through the days and the weeks leading up to Robert's hospitalization in an effort to try to retrace Robert's footsteps to figure out what made him sick. Now, they didn't have any leads.
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The only thing they agreed on was that very likely, even though Robert had that pain around his scar where the transplant was, that very likely the transplant did not have to do with whatever killed him because Robert's kidney had been working fine and his transplant had happened 17 months earlier and typically complications from transplants will happen much sooner.
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And so they basically had ruled the transplant out as being the cause. But one of the CDC investigators decided to look into the transplant file anyways, just to see if maybe something got missed, or if maybe there was some detail about the donor that was relevant to what happened to Robert. And so this investigator got the file and began going through it.
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Robert Stoner's name was William Edward Small, and at the time of his death, he was 20 years old and serving in the Air Force. Now, none of that stood out to the CDC investigator, but William's cause of death definitely did. Even though it really did not appear to have a connection to Robert, it was just so weird and unexpected.
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The CDC investigator would read that back in September of 2011, William was out fishing in the Gulf of Mexico, and he caught a fish, and he ate that fish, and it gave him something called ciguatera poisoning. Ciguatera poisoning is something you get when you eat a fish that contains microalgae toxins. And so William, he ate this fish that was contaminated, and not long after that, he had died.
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But when the CDC investigator read through all of William's symptoms before he died, they basically exactly lined up with all of Robert's symptoms. William had developed pain and weakness in his extremities. He developed a very high fever. He became nauseous. He also lost the ability to swallow. And then he became totally confused and then died.
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And so when the CDC investigators saw this incredible coincidence, she knew she was onto something, but first she would need more information about William. And so very quickly, the CDC got in touch with William's family and they asked them all these questions about William.
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And finally, after hearing the answers from the family, the CDC finally figured out what actually happened to Robert and what actually happened to William. It would turn out William was not just a fisherman, he was also a hunter and a trapper. And he had a very specific way he would go about training his hunting dogs.
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On the evening of July 25th, 2008, a 59-year-old man named Brian Thomas walked hand-in-hand with his wife Christine out of the restaurant where they had just had dinner. The couple was in this little village right on the coast of Wales, and where they were now walking outside of this restaurant was right along the water.
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He would capture wild raccoons and use them as live bait to train his hunting dogs how to hunt. Now, William was always very cautious with these wild raccoons, but in the year and a half leading up to his death, he was bit two different times by raccoons. And it was one of those two raccoon bites, not some toxic fish in the Gulf of Mexico, that killed William and killed Robert.
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William did not die from Ciguatera poisoning. He died from rabies, and the rabies virus that was in his kidney was still present when it was taken out of his dead body and transplanted into Robert's body. And so that was how Robert got rabies. Rabies can look like the common flu at first. People feel achy and nauseous, they get fevers, their stomach starts to hurt.
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Some people affected by rabies will drool uncontrollably, like Robert, or they'll lose the ability to swallow, like William. But for everybody who contracts rabies and who does not get a vaccine right away, because a vaccine does stop rabies in the early stage, so if you don't do that, everybody dies. That's what rabies does to you, it kills you.
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Now, you'd think, you know, maybe we should be testing organs for rabies before they get transplanted. But you got to remember that rabies is so, so rare. Only one or two people a year in the entire United States will die from rabies. And so it's just not something doctors are going to screen for because the percentage chance that they could have rabies is basically zero.
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Ultimately, Robert was not the only person who received an organ transplant from William. There were three other people that received his organs.
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Luckily, though, the CDC was able to track those three people down, and all of them were totally healthy and not showing any signs of rabies, so either they didn't have it or they were super early stage, which meant they were eligible for the rabies vaccine, they all got the vaccine, and they lived happily ever after.
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And so as they did that, Brian found himself looking out over the sea and he saw the reflection of the moon on the waves and it was so beautiful. And then he turned to his wife and she was so stunning. And so Brian finally just stopped and kind of just took in all this incredible beauty right in front of him.
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The abolitionist mission isn't done until every prison is empty and shut down.
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And he began smiling ear to ear, which was a big departure from how Brian had been feeling over the past few months. because Christine had recently had a big scare. She'd been told she might have cancer, and so she went in for all this testing, and then she and Brian had to wait for it to come back, and the wait was absolute torture.
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I mean, basically Brian and Christine were prepping themselves to find out Christine really did have cancer. But when the results did come back, it would turn out Christine did not have cancer. And so Christine was obviously hugely relieved. But it was actually Brian who was more relieved. It was like he suddenly saw he could lose his wife, his wife of 40 years, who he had raised a family with.
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I mean, this was like the most important person in Brian's life. But it was like he didn't fully appreciate that until he realized he could lose this really important person. And so now that Christine had a clean bill of health, Brian was committed to showering her with love and affection and taking her to restaurants and on vacations.
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And in fact, the reason they were actually in this village in Wales is because they were on one of Brian's many vacations for Christine. He had gone out and bought this little camper van and they had driven it up to this part of Wales. And then after this vacation ended, Brian's plan was to use this camper to travel with his wife all over Great Britain.
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And so the couple had a really busy schedule coming up. But for right now, Brian was focused on just staying in the moment and enjoying this newfound happiness he was feeling. And so he and his wife would continue to just kind of walk along the water for a bit. And then finally, when they felt tired, they headed back to their camper, they went inside, they got in their bed, and they fell asleep.
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A little before 4 a.m., Brian suddenly woke up inside of this camper. And so he sits upright and he looks around. You know, it's totally dark inside of there. He can't see anything. He doesn't really know why he just woke up. And he's trying to get his bearings. And then as his eyes kind of begin to focus, he realizes there is a person standing inside of their camper right near the door.
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And the third and final story you'll hear is called Leg Pain, and it's about a seemingly minor issue that would ultimately escalate into one of the most baffling medical mysteries ever.
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Basically 10, 15 feet away from he and his wife is a person. And so Brian just froze, and he's staring at this person, hoping this is just a dream or something. But then this person, who appeared to be dressed in all black head to toe, began to move. And they began to move first to the left, and then towards the bed. And so Brian is still just frozen, thinking, is this real?
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Is this really happening? And then this person began climbing on the bed on the side where Christine was. And so Brian, without even thinking, just yelled out, you bastard. And he jumped off the bed at this guy and began choking them out. And the whole time Brian is screaming at this person like, what are you doing? Why are you here?
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And this person is fighting back so hard and Brian is just not letting go. It's like instinct is completely taken over. And then this person goes totally still and just dies. And Brian knows he killed them, but they came into his camper. Like, what do you expect?
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Brian would ultimately be the one who called the police, and just several minutes later, they would show up, and when they got there, they would find Brian standing outside the camper, hyperventilating, and then when they tried to get more information about what exactly had happened inside the camper, Brian basically couldn't explain it. It was like he was totally in shock.
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And so eventually, one of the officers just went inside the camper, and there on the ground, they would find a body. But it was not some attacker. It was Brian's wife. It would turn out Brian had a medical condition called somnambulism, which we know as sleepwalking. And at home, he would sleep in a different bed than his wife because he sleepwalked so much.
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But since they were on vacation in their camper, they had to sleep together because there was only one bed on board the camper. And so not long after Brian and Christine had fallen asleep together, Brian began having this really intense nightmare where he believed his wife was being attacked. And so Brian, in this nightmare, had to stop this person from hurting Christine.
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Except, because of his sleepwalking, he acted this out in real life. And the attacker that he ultimately killed was ironically his wife. He basically tackled his wife and strangled her to death because he thought he was actually saving her. Brian was absolutely destroyed with grief and with guilt. And the second he realized what he had done, he confessed.
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He didn't in any way try to protect himself. He said, I did this, take me in. And Brian would be arrested. However, in November of 2009, the judge who actually heard Brian's official confession, he kind of felt bad for Brian and said, you know what? I'm dropping all charges against you because it's obvious to me you are a good and decent person.
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This was a mistake and you're going to live with grief and guilt for the rest of your life. And that's punishment enough. Our next story is called Night and Day. In the late afternoon of May 1st, 2016, 13-year-old Shoaib Ahmed and his nine-year-old brother, Abdul Rashid, chased a soccer ball across a dusty plain near their little rural town in Pakistan.
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Abdul, who was very athletic and quick on his feet, managed to kick the ball past the defender and then kicked a line drive shot right at the net. But at the last second, the goalie jumped and blocked the shot. And so Abdul threw his hands up in exasperation, but even though he was frustrated he missed a shot, he was having a blast.
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He loved playing soccer with his brother and the neighborhood kids. But as much fun as he was having, Abdul at some point looked up and he noticed the sun was starting to set behind the mountains. And immediately when he saw that, the expression on his face went completely deadpan. And then he looked over at his brother, Shoaib, who also had noticed the sun was setting.
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And by this point, Shoaib was already rushing over to Abdul. He grabbed Abdul's hand and the two brothers, without a word to their friends who were just kind of standing there watching, they took off and just hustled back towards their home.
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The brothers made it to their home, but on the porch, Shoab, the older brother, just collapsed onto the ground with his arms and legs going totally stiff and his jaw locking up to the point where he couldn't even speak.
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And Abdul, instead of trying to help his brother, just stepped clear over him and ran into the house and made it to his bed just in time for him to also collapse, but onto the bed with his arms and legs being just as stiff as his brother's and his jaw also being locked so he couldn't even speak.
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And then moments later, the boy's father would scoop Shoaib off the porch, carry him into the bedroom, and put him in a bed, cover him up. And then the father would rotate Abdul, who was on his stomach, over onto his back, and he put the covers over him. And then the father just left and got into his own bed and went to sleep. And this was a typical night in this family's household.
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The next day, a convoy of fancy cars descended on this little village where Shoaib and Abdul lived. And in these vehicles were all these scientists from Pakistan's Institute of Medical Sciences, and they had heard about the boy's nightly bizarre collapses, and they wanted to find out if the condition was real.
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Now, if the scientists had arrived in the village before sunrise, they would have found Abdul and Shoaib still in their beds in a semi-comatose state, unable to move. But it was almost noon by the time the scientists arrived, and so when they saw the two boys, they were outside goofing around and playing, acting like everything was totally fine.
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In the village, neighbors referred to Abdul and Shoaib as the solar boys because they were only normal and active and like the other kids during the daylight hours when the sun was up. And then at night, they would become totally paralyzed and mute. Now, the villagers saw this happening, but they didn't really believe it necessarily.
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They thought maybe the kids were making it up to get attention, or maybe they were doing it as like a grift to get people to donate money to the family. But Shoaib and Abdul's father completely denied this and said they had not made any money from what was happening to his sons, and all they wanted to do was just figure out what was wrong with them so they could help them.
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The scientists would talk to Abdul and Shoaib's father first, and he would explain to them that really since Abdul and Shoaib were very little, they had been suffering from these nightly paralysis events. And so with the family's permission, these scientists got to work. They collected blood and urine samples, not just from Shoaib and Abdul, but from the entire family.
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And then also the scientists tested Abdul and Shoheib's balance and coordination, you know, obviously during the daytime, and the boys both did completely fine. And then as sunset approached, the scientists just stood there and watched as Abdul and Shoheib slowly lost control of their bodies and became paralyzed and mute.
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And then throughout the night, the scientists just continued to watch them, and the boys did not move at all. And then when the scientists attempted to kind of move their limbs for them, they were so rigid, almost like rigor mortis after you die, that they really couldn't move their limbs at all.
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And then the next morning, as the scientists were watching, the sun came up, and it was like suddenly Abdul and Shoaib were totally back to normal. They popped out of bed with a smile on their face, able to move around no problem. And so to the scientists who watched this go on, they were left thinking, okay, there's no way these kids could be faking this. Like no one could fake this.
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This is real. But the scientists really didn't have any new information to pass to the family because, you know, the boys' blood and urine samples came back completely normal and they had passed all of their balance and coordination tests. And so it seemed like, you know, Abdul and Shoaib should be totally normal, healthy boys, but they just weren't. And these scientists didn't know why.
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Now, these scientists were not the first group of people who had tried to solve the mystery of the solar kits. For years, their father had been trying to find someone who could help them, but he was having no success.
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Doctors in the nearest hospital to their village were convinced that the boys had a rare illness that made them extremely tired only a couple of hours after waking up in the morning. But Abdul and Shoaib had loads of energy all day long. It was only when the sun came down that they became totally paralyzed, and so the father didn't believe those doctors were really taking this that seriously.
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The imam at a local mosque was convinced the boys were possessed by demons, and so he organized an exorcism where a group of religious leaders basically tapped on the boys with sticks while chanting in rhythm and dousing them with holy water, but that didn't work. And so the family was close to giving up on ever finding help for their sons.
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But then in April of 2016, so a month before that team of scientists descended on the village to research the boys, a TV news reporter from Pakistan's version of CNN came to the village to interview the family because this reporter had heard about the strange condition these boys had.
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And this interview was seen by millions and millions of people, including Pakistan's most esteemed and influential doctor, a man named Dr. Javed Akram, who happened to be the vice chancellor of Pakistan's Institute of Medical Sciences. Dr. Akram had never heard of such a strange condition, and so he was the one who ordered those team of scientists to go to the village and research this family.
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on the morning of April 15, 2007, three men launched a 35-foot white catamaran called the CAS-2 from a marina in northeastern Australia, kicking off what was supposed to be the trip of a lifetime. The captain of the Kaz-2 was 56-year-old Dez Batten, and for months he'd been training for this trip.
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And the two friends that Dez was bringing with him on this trip were Jim Tunstead, who was 63 years old, and Jim's brother, Peter Tunstead, who was 69 years old.
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All three of the men had spent a lot of time plotting their actual course they'd be going on, which was from this marina on the northeastern side of Australia, up and around the north side, and then down the western coast to Perth, which was their final destination and where all three men lived.
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The sun was out, it was beautiful and warm, the water was crystal blue, but none of these four men were paying any attention to their surroundings. Instead, all of them were just standing there in total silence, staring at each other. Finally, one of the four men spoke up. His name was Owen Coffin, and he was 18 years old. And Owen, like the other three men, had grown up on the water.
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In total, this trip was supposed to take eight weeks, and all three men were absolutely giddy with excitement at the prospect of spending an entire two months basically just drinking beers and fishing. Now, Des, Jim, and Peter were not the types to blow off responsibility to go party. I mean, they were devoted family men. All of them had been married for 30 plus years.
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Des had two kids, Jim had four kids, and Peter had five kids. But they were all either retired or nearing retirement, and this trip was going to be kind of a way to celebrate the end of an era. And while all three of them had gone on other big sailing trips, this one easily was the biggest one in terms of the distance they were covering and how much prep went into it and how expensive it was.
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I mean, this was like 10x the scope and scale of any other sailing trip they had done. And so on April 15th, 2007, shortly after the three men had launched their boat and kicked off this big trip, Peter's wife would call him just to see how it was going. And she would say, you know, Peter was in great spirits and she could hear the other two men laughing in the background.
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And it sounded like they were about to start fishing and maybe have a couple of beers. And so it seemed very much to Peter's wife like this trip was going as well as it could be so far. And so eventually, Peter told his wife that he had to go, he told her he loved her, and then they hung up. Now, Dez, who was the captain of the Caz 2, was adamant about safety being the top concern for this trip.
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Even though all three men were relatively healthy and had a lot of sailing experience, and even though Des was a member of a volunteer marine rescue group and so literally could be called on to go perform rescues at sea, despite all this experience and know-how, before they kicked off this trip, Des made Jim and Peter go through all these man overboard drills on the CAS-2 to make sure they knew how to do it if for some reason, you know, an emergency arose out at sea.
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And so the men got really comfortable using all the life-saving equipment and going over all the procedures. And then also when they charted their course, Dez stressed that at no point should they be sailing into open water. They needed to stay close to shore the whole time just because it was safer. And so when Jim began filming a video around 10 a.m.
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on the day they set sail for this trip, you can clearly see the shore in the background of this video. So they're following the course they had planned.
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But a couple of hours after Jim had shot that video on the day they left, a woman named Isabel Wheeler, who did not know Des, Jim, or Peter and had never seen the CAS-2 before, she was fishing in an area called Champagne Bay when she looked out into the water and she saw the CAS-2, a white 35-foot catamaran sailing east to west across the horizon.
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And then at some point, as Isabel was watching this boat, which really meant nothing to her, she just happened to be watching it, she saw it make a quick 90 degree turn and began sailing out towards the open ocean away from the coastline.
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Now, remember, Isabel knows nothing of this boat or its occupants, and so has no idea that Des, Peter, and Jim had been so clear about, at no point will we sail into the open ocean. It's too dangerous. Stay close to shore. She didn't know that. And so she just saw a ship turning and sailing out to the open water, and she thought, okay, whatever. So she didn't go and report what she saw.
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It was only later on when details emerged about what happened on the Kaz-2 that she would later come forward and say, hey, I saw that boat and this is what they did. The next day, April 16th, two more people would spot the Kaz-2. These were two men who also did not know Des Peter Jim. They didn't know Kaz-2. They didn't know Isabel. In fact, these two men didn't know each other.
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But independently, on this day, they looked out near Champagne Bay and they saw the Kaz-2 sailing east to west in the exact same spot that Isabel had seen it the day before. Now, remember, the Caz 2 was traveling from that marina on the northeast side of Australia all the way around to Perth. It was a point A to point B trip.
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In fact, all four of these men had grown up on this small island called Nantucket, off the coast of Massachusetts, where the main industry there was whaling. Which meant sailors like these four men would go out and hunt whales and slaughter them for their oil.
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There was no reason the Caz 2 would ever double back and be in the same place 24 hours later, but here we were 24 hours later, and two more people are seeing the Caz 2 in the same place that Isabel had seen it, and so that made no sense. But again, these two men who saw the Kaz-2, they just saw it and thought nothing of it because they don't know anything about this boat.
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It wasn't until later that they eventually came forward with what they saw. Then one more day after that, on April 17th, there were these fishermen that were out in their boats a little farther north of Champagne Bay, where Isabelle and the two other men had seen the CAS-2 on consecutive days. And these fishermen, they spotted the CAS-2. And again, these fishermen do not know the CAS-2.
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They don't know its occupants. They're just seeing the ship. Except this time, the fishermen, when they saw the CAS-2, they thought something was wrong. because they saw the Kaz-2 from a distance navigating its way fairly close to shore in an area that these fishermen knew was full of coral reefs. It's a very dangerous area to be piloting any ship.
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In addition, the sail of the Kaz-2 was totally ripped to shreds. And so the fishermen, they're looking at the ship, wondering what they're doing, but the pilot of the ship looked so in control as he's navigating his way through the coral reefs that the fishermen thought, okay, he knows what he's doing, so, you know, leave him alone. But again, later on, they would report what they saw.
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It wasn't until the next day, April 18th, so three days after Des, Peter, and Jim had set sail, that anybody realized there was an issue with the crew of the Kaz-2.
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Because on April 18th, a Coastwatch surveillance helicopter was flying over the Great Barrier Reef, and they looked down and they saw the CAS-2 with its badly damaged sails, piloting all around this very dangerous part of the water to be piloting.
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And so the crew on board the helicopter attempted to radio down to the CAS-2 to see if they were okay, but no one from the CAS-2 called back to the helicopter. And so as they're waiting for a response from the Kaz 2, the helicopter crew is watching the pilot of the Kaz 2 clearly, you know, navigating the boat in between coral reefs.
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So from the time Owen and the rest of these men were very little, they were out on the water learning how to sail, and they were also learning the customs of the sea. And there was one custom in particular that Owen wanted to talk about right now with the other three men.
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And it seemed like, you know, despite the damage to the sails, he knew what he was doing. And so to the crew on the helicopter, this didn't really look like an emergency, but it seemed like something worth flagging. And so they called the Marine police and said, hey, we have the ship here that's not responding. We think they're OK, but you might want to come take a look.
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And so the Marine police, they would come out to the area where the helicopter had said they had seen the Kaz 2. And when they got there, the Kaz 2 was gone.
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At this point, the Marine police got some information about the boat, CAS-2, and discovered who owned the boat and who was on this trip, so Des, Peter, and Jim, and the police would get in touch with all of their families, and they would all tell police that besides Peter's wife, who talked to Peter on that morning they left, no one had heard from any of the men.
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They had gone totally silent since that first day. And so when police heard this, they knew this had to be some kind of emergency. And so a search was launched to find the Kaz-2. And 48 hours later, a rescue helicopter that was part of the search was about 80 or so miles off the northeastern coast of Australia when they looked down and they spotted the Kaz-2.
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And it still had all torn up sails and it was kind of spinning listlessly in the water. And from the helicopter, they couldn't see anybody on board the ship. It was totally vacant on the deck. Now, at this point, authorities really have no idea what's going on with this boat or its occupants.
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It was possible that maybe they had been hijacked, and so Des, Peter, and Jim could be held hostage down below, along with the people that took them hostage. Or maybe the boat just got stolen, and Des, Peter, and Jim are not on this boat, and that it's just the criminals on board, and again, they're down below, hidden from view.
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You know, so authorities, they don't know, but they decided to take a risk and just send somebody down to get on that boat and just see what was going on. So a rescue officer on board the rescue helicopter named Corey Benson was lowered by a rope where he was dropped into the water.
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And then Corey swam by himself over to the CAS-2 and he climbed up the side of the boat and he stepped onto the deck. And right away, he noticed it was kind of like eerily quiet on board the boat. There was nobody he could see, and there was no sign of any disturbance, minus the sails of the ship being all tattered.
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And for a second, Corey thought about maybe calling out for Des, Peter, and Jim to see if they were down below and could come up and solve this mystery. Then he also worried that if he called out, there could be some bad people on board this boat, and he didn't want to draw their attention. And so Corey was quiet and just began walking towards the front of the boat.
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And as he did, he began to notice signs that people must have recently been on board this boat doing normal things. Like for example, there was a fishing rod that was cast out into the water that was anchored to a post on the side of the boat that looked like it had just been operated minutes ago.
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So in a very serious and hushed tone, Owen asked the question of the other three men that sailors referred to as the delicate question. And after Owen asked the so-called delicate question, the other three men, who were already very serious and just kind of standing there in silence, suddenly their eyes started to go wide and their mouths went agape.
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There was a blue mug of coffee that was just sitting on a table that looked like maybe someone had been drinking from it recently. There was a neatly folded t-shirt on another chair with a set of glasses on them. I mean, there was just all these kind of tells that this was a boat that was being used recently.
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And when Corey actually got to the front of the boat where the captain would stand, he saw the engine was actually still on. It was idling. And so Corey turned it off. Now at this point, Corey knew his next step was going down the stairs and opening up the door that led into the cabin down below to see if Des, Peter and Jim were down there.
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But he also knew when he went down there, despite there being backup up in the helicopter and more people making their way out here, Corey would be all alone if there were criminals or bad people down there, but this was his job. And so after taking a deep breath, he turned and walked down the few steps and he got to the door that led to the cabin He grabbed the handle and he opened it up.
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And the room he was walking into was kind of like a half living room, half kitchen area. And he saw there was this table and on it was a newspaper that was dated April 15th. So the day the Kaz set sail. And then on the wall behind the newspaper was a calendar where days had been marked off all the way through April 14th. April 15th was not marked off.
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But also nearby on a table was a computer that was still plugged in and on and looked very much like someone had just been using it. And also there were plates of food that were out that didn't look that old that also seemed like people must have just been eating from them.
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And then also, Corey could see past this common area into the bedroom, and very obviously, the bunks inside of there had been slept in. And so basically, everything seemed like it was where it should be. There was just one problem. Des, Peter, and Jim were not on the ship. There was no sign of where they were. They were just gone. And there was nobody else on board the ship.
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It was just completely abandoned with no sign of what happened. Des, Jim, and Peter were never found, and so we have no idea what actually happened to them. Nor do we have any idea why they were seen by Isabel and the two men and the fishermen doing all these weird things like randomly piloting out towards open water, which totally went against their plan, which was stay close to shore, be safe.
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Or, you know, why on that second day they were seen in the same spot near Champagne Bay, indicating they had doubled back after going towards open water. You know, that went against their plan, which was point A to point B. Why are they doubling back around? And so unfortunately, this whole thing is just one big mystery that has yet to be solved. Thank you for listening to the Mr. Ballin Podcast.
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And then again, all of the men just kind of fell into total silence. The only sound they could hear was the splashing of the waves against the side of the boat. The captain of this vessel was a man named George Pollard. He was 28 years old, and he was actually Owen's older cousin. And what George wanted to say to Owen in response to his delicate question was no. But George didn't say that.
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Instead, he just put his hands up over his mouth and stared kind of incredulously at Owen and the other two men, who were also teenagers. Their names were George and Barzillai. And as he stared at these other three men, he realized that their answers to the delicate question was a resounding yes. They knew it had to be a yes. They had to do this.
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And even though George could totally override them because he was the captain and so technically in charge, he knew in this situation, under this particular custom, he couldn't overrule them. And so, with his hand still over his mouth, George just nodded a yes. Yes, let's go forward with this custom.
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While sailors are known to have many customs of the sea, there is one custom that is exceptionally dark. And once it begins, there's no going back. And that is the custom we will talk about in this story. And the second and final story you'll hear is called The Kaz 2. And it's about three friends' trip of a lifetime that turns into a nightmare.
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And so with a unanimous decision to move forward, Owen slowly reached down and pulled out the ship's logbook from underneath one of the seats behind him. And then he opened up the book and he flipped to the back pages of the logbook, which were totally blank. And he grabbed one of the pieces of paper and he ripped it out of the book. Then, Owen began to rip this piece of paper into strips.
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First, he ripped three identically long pieces of paper, and he held up all three at the same time to show the others that these are the three that are the same. And each of the three nodded their head, yes, we see that. And then Owen reached down, he grabbed the paper again, and he ripped a fourth strip out, and this one was dramatically shorter than the other three.
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And so Owen held up this much shorter piece, and he showed Charles, George, and Barzilai. And again, they all kind of nodded in agreement. Yes, we see, that's the short piece. And so once the whole group was satisfied that they had their four strips, Owen took off his hat, he put all four of the strips inside, mixed it around, and held out his hat. It was time.
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The first man to reach into Owen's hat was Owen's older cousin and the captain, George. He reached in, he pulled one of the strips of paper out, closed it in his fist so he had no idea which one it was, and pulled it back and held it close to his chest.
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And then one by one, each of the other men did the same thing, reaching in, grabbing their strip, not looking at it, and holding it against their chest. And then once all the strips had been taken, at the exact same time, all four men extended their hands into the middle of the circle they were standing in, and they opened their hands palm up to reveal which strip they got.
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And George, Charles, and Barzilai all had the identical long pieces, and Owen, the 18-year-old, the younger cousin of the captain, the one who had ripped up the strips, he had the short strip. And immediately when his older cousin, George, saw this, he yelled out, no, let me take that one. But Owen said, no, this is customary. I want this.
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And so after a few moments of the men kind of collecting themselves and calming down, Charles then grabbed the logbook again, flipped to the back of it, pulled out another blank page, and he ripped it into strips again, except now he was only ripping them into three strips, two long that were identical and one short.
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And once again, as he ripped them, he held them up to show the other men to show this was a fair process. Then Charles took off his hat, put the three strips inside, and extended it to George and Barzilai. Owen was not a part of this round.
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And so George and Barzilai, one by one, reached in, took their strip, held it to their chest, and then Charles, he would take the last strip, he would hold it to his chest, and then once all the men had their pieces, they held their hands out into the middle of their now smaller circle, they opened their hands, palm up, and this time it would be Charles, the man who ripped up this second round, who would discover he had the short strip.
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And as soon as Charles saw this, he threw it on the ground and he ran to the other side of the boat and began screaming, I can't do this. I can't do it. Meanwhile, Owen, George, and Barzilai didn't even move or flinch. They just stood there waiting for Charles to calm down. Because they knew, he knew, this was a very important custom. And once you begin doing it, you can't just stop.
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Charles would have to come back over and play his role. And so after a few minutes of Charles still kind of calling out that he couldn't do this, he couldn't do this, tears are coming down his face. He finally wiped the tears, he calmed himself down, and he walked back over to the group, who again, they hadn't moved.
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George, Barzilai, and Owen, they're just standing there waiting to continue this custom. And so as Charles began coming back over, looking ready to continue, George, without even saying anything, reached down and unlatched a door on the side of the boat He opened it up, he reached in, and he pulled out this long object that was wrapped in canvas. And then he handed this object to Charles.
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And then once Charles had possession of this object, Owen, the man who had first drawn the short piece of paper, said to the group, now it's time for a moment of silence. Even though at this point, none of the men were talking. But still, they formed a tight circle with Charles holding this object, and they all bowed their heads, and they just stood there in total silence.
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And then, once Owen raised his head, the other three did as well, and Owen, one by one, touched the shoulders of each of the men and reminded them that this had been a fair process.
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Then, without saying another word, Owen turned away from the group, he walked over to the edge of the boat, looking out over the water, he got down on his knees, he made sure his posture was good, and he looked out over the water. Owen had always loved the ocean, even though his own father had died out at sea.
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But this particular whaling expedition that Owen had been on, he thought went extremely well, and he was very proud of what they had all accomplished. And Owen was especially proud to be a part of this particular custom. This custom was one that so few people ever took part in, but all sailors knew about it. It was kind of like the forbidden custom.
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And here he was playing a central role, which really required a lot of strength. And so feeling very proud of himself, Owen, after looking out over the water for a few more moments, he bent down and put his chin on the edge of the boat, which signaled to Charles it was time.
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So, if that's of interest to you, please go through all of the Amazon Music Follow Button social media posts and be sure to correct all of their fans' spelling and grammar mistakes in the comments section. Okay, let's get into our first story, called Survivor's Guilt. On the morning of February 6th, 1821, four young men stood on the deck of a small boat out in the Pacific Ocean.
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And then once Charles saw that Owen was in position, he stepped away from George and Barzilai and walked over to Owen, carrying this object wrapped in canvas. And then once he was right behind Owen, without saying a word to him, he unwrapped the object. and it was a rifle. And once the rifle was uncovered, he placed the barrel against the back of Owen's head, and then he fired a shot.
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And instantly, Owen slumped to the ground, dead, and Charles kind of staggered back and fell on the deck and let out the strangled scream. He couldn't believe what he had just done, but he knew there was no other choice. Once they decided to do this sacred custom, they had to take it to the end.
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And so George, who had just witnessed the execution of his younger cousin, was deeply troubled and pained, but he too knew they had to bring this custom to the finish line, which meant it was George's turn to step forward and play his part. And so George walked up to his now dead younger cousin, and George pulled out a serrated knife and cut off Owen's head.
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And then once Owen's head was removed, he placed it on the deck so Owen's face was looking away from the other men, like he couldn't see what they were going to do. And then once the head was in place, George went back to Owen's body and began cutting him open and pulling his organs out and handing them to Charles and Barzilai.
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George also began cutting off long strips of Owen's flesh, creating sort of like fillets. And then, even though there was a spot on the boat to have a fire, the three men decided they just could not wait.
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And before long, the only sound that could be heard on board this little boat floating out at sea on the Pacific Ocean was the sound of Charles, George, and Barzilai tearing into Owen's raw flesh with their teeth, turning their beards bright red with his blood. The delicate question that Owen asked the other men at the beginning of this story was one of the most feared questions amongst sailors.
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And it was only asked if there was a shipwreck or some sort of emergency that happened out at sea, which meant the group had almost no chance of survival. Only in those circumstances was the delicate question appropriate. And what it was, was do we draw lots to determine which one of us dies so the other can eat them in order to have a better chance at survival?
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And so during that first round, when Owen had drawn the short strip of paper, that determined he would be the one who was murdered and eaten. And then in the second round, when Charles drew the short strip of paper, that meant he would be the one to kill Owen.
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On February 6th, 1821, the day that Owen posed the delicate question, he and the other three men had been lost at sea for the past three months after a whale had struck the side of their whaling boat and left them adrift with almost no food and no water.
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There had been other men on board the Essex who had died from starvation and exposure, and their bodies had been consumed by the surviving sailors until on February 6th, they were down to just these four men and no more bodies to eat. Which is why they decided it was time. They had to ask the delicate question.
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Seventeen days after Owen sacrificed himself so the others could eat him, another boat happened to drift past, the stranded Essex boat, which now only contained Charles and George. Barzilai had died of starvation five days after they killed Owen, and Barzilai had been eaten by George and Charles as well.
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And as this other ship passed by the Essex and they looked on board, all they saw were skeletons of the men that had died and been eaten. And Charles and George were on opposite ends of the boat, curled up in a ball, chewing on human finger bones, trying to get the last bits of flesh off. And their bodies were totally emaciated. Their hair and their beards were wild. They looked totally feral.
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And then when this boat actually came up alongside the Essex and boarded to rescue Charles and George, Charles and George looked terrified. It was like they had totally lost their grip on reality. They had been lost at sea for 94 days and had consumed all of their friends, and so it makes sense they might go kind of crazy.
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But after this crew was able to get Charles and George fed and get them water and cleaned up, they kind of regained their composure and their sanity, and they were very thankful and happy to be alive. The story of what happened to the crew of the Essex quickly spread all around the world, and in fact, it served as inspiration for Herman Melville to write his classic American novel, Moby Dick.
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a genre that many fans have been asking us to dive into for years, and we finally decided to take the plunge, and the show is awesome. In this free weekly show, we explore bizarre unheard of diseases, strange medical mishaps, unexplainable deaths, and everything in between. Each story is totally true and totally terrifying.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
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MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
It would be even more challenging to hike these really difficult trails with the inclusion of bad weather. So this is another way to, you know, test our abilities. And so they kind of got pumped up at the idea of hiking the Appalachian Trail in terrible weather. So the guys arrive in the parking lot and the windshield wipers are furiously working to keep the pouring rain off.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
They hop out and they're getting soaked by the rain. They put on their ponchos, they grab their heavy packs and they make their way over to the trail. Their plan was to move west along the trail until they hit the Tri-Corner Shelter where they would spend their first night. The Tri-Corner Shelter is one of the many shelters along the Appalachian Trail. They are open to the public.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
There's no heating or electricity, but it provides shelter from the storm. You can go in there and get in a sleeping bag and you'll be fine. But to get to the tri-corner shelter, they would need to hike 16 miles, almost completely uphill, walking right into the wind, and it's raining on them, and it's supposed to snow later on. So it's just a treacherous, treacherous first day. But they take off.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
They start walking up this trail. And after a couple of miles, John says, you know what, guys, this is awful. I think we should probably turn around. I think we've underestimated how bad this is going to be. Let's go back to the car and we'll do this another time. But Mark and Ben were like, oh, no, we are committed. We are doing this. We are not turning around. And John's like, you know what?
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
Suit yourself. I'm not going to do that. And he turned around and he left and he went back to the car and he would pick them up when they were done. After John turned around, Mark and Ben, you know, they felt good. They felt tough. They're going to stick this hike out. And so they take off again and Ben's in the lead.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And Ben seems to be handling the poor weather and difficult hike and heavy pack a lot better than Mark is. In fact, over the next several hours, Mark would drift farther and farther back and Ben would need to wait for him.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
and mark would be hunched over you know really just struggling with this hike and then at some point mark yells to him and says i gotta take my pack off i can't carry this much weight up this hill until we get to the shelter i'm not gonna make it to the shelter then ben would say to him you know if we don't get to the shelter for some reason you're gonna be stranded out here in this storm without any warm clothes without your sleeping bag without your tent without your food without your water it's it's way too dangerous you have to keep your pack on
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And so finally, Mark is convinced and he's like, oh, all right, puts his pack back on and they continue moving. About an hour later at 7 p.m., they had reached the section of the trail where they knew they were getting closer or close-ish to the tri-corner shelter. They were certainly well beyond the halfway point. But it was dark out. The temperature had dropped significantly.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
At this point, Ben is basically Mark's cheerleader, kind of egging him on to keep moving. And Mark's kind of staggering along this trail. And Ben and Mark are just hoping that shelter just appears at some point here because they don't know how much farther they can go. Another hour and a half goes by. They still haven't made it to the shelter. Mark is groaning. He can barely move.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
It's pitch black. The rain has now completely shifted over to snow and it is just dumping snow on them. And Ben is concerned that, you know, somehow did we take a wrong turn? Even though they were on a really well-marked trail and he knew they hadn't. He figured they must be so close at this point. And it was around this time that Mark yells out to Ben, I'm done. I can't go any farther.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And he sits down right in the middle of the trail. He's sitting down with his pack and he's just laying there. And Ben is like, come on, we're so close. You can't sit down now. And Mark's like, I'm not moving. I can't do anymore. I'm going to sleep right here. Ben knows this is a bad idea.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
In 1989, 22-year-old Eloise Lindsay was a fresh college graduate and she was at a crossroads in her life because even though she just earned her degree, she really didn't know what she wanted to do with her life.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
I mean, they did have warm clothes and sleeping bags, and they probably would be just fine sleeping out in the middle of the trail, but it just seemed so unnecessarily risky when there's probably a shelter maybe a couple hundred meters away, and he would turn out to be right.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And so he decides he's going to walk ahead on the trail, and he's going to see if the shelter's there, but he only went about 100 meters. He was within maybe 100 meters of the actual shelter, but he never saw it. And so after going ahead and feeling like, man, I don't want to drag Mark any farther. You know, if there's no shelter ahead, for all we know, we took a wrong turn.
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Something is in the Woods
And so he turns back around and he goes back near Mark, not next to him, but close enough to him that he can see him. And he sits down on the trail too. He gets his sleeping bag out. He crawls inside and he falls asleep.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
That night, Ben would have this vivid, horrible nightmare where he heard Mark screaming for help, yelling for Ben to come save him as he's being dragged off the trail into the forest. And it scared him so much that Ben woke up and he looks down the trail to where Mark is and he can see Mark's backpack is sitting right on the trail. And so he thinks, oh, Mark's still there.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And he's so tired, he's not about to get up and go check. He's like, that was just a dream. And he goes back to sleep. The next morning when the sun comes up, Ben gets up again and the first thing he does is he looks over at Mark and he sees the pack, but he realizes that Mark is not there. It's just the backpack. And so Ben jumps up and he yells for Mark. He gets to get a response.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And because she was an experienced backpacker, she thought a good way to, you know, kind of get her life together would be to go on a sort of retreat, go out into the woods, go out into nature and kind of find herself.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
He's looking around thinking he's gotta be around here, but he's not. It snowed that night, so any tracks Mark would have left to show where he went to were now covered up. And that's when it dawns on Ben that that dream he had the night before, that might have been real. And he has this sinking feeling that something horrible has happened to Mark and that he didn't save him.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And so he thinks, I got to get authorities. He grabs his bag. He leaves Mark's there because he's thinking maybe he'll come back and he'll grab it. And Ben turns and runs down the trail in the direction he hopes is towards this tri-corner shelter. And he can't believe it when literally 200 meters away, he finds the tri-corner shelter. They were that close. And inside are other hikers.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
He was able to get one of them to run down and get park services to know that they have a missing hiker on the trail. Searchers were dispatched to the area where Mark and Ben had been sleeping on the trail. The first thing they did is they went to his bag and inside were all the things he would need to survive out in the wild.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
His tent, his warm clothes, his sleeping bag, his food, his water, everything. It was all left there. Over the next few days, hundreds of searchers combed the area, made helicopters overhead, and they made no significant discovery. However, one park ranger discovered this huge cave that was not that far away from where they had been sleeping.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And inside of this cave, this ranger said a large mammal had been staying recently, it was not there now, And there was all these animal bones inside the cave, so it was obviously a predator of some kind.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And so there was speculation that between this cave that probably held, you know, a bear or something like that, and Ben's dream that probably was reality of Mark being pulled off the trail screaming for help, that maybe Mark was attacked by some animal that dragged him away. On the ninth day of the search, Mark's body was found.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
So she had planned this very detailed 43.3 mile hike along the Appalachian Trail, starting in South Carolina, where the first seven days of the hike, she would be totally on her own. And then at the seven day mark, she would meet up with a friend at a particular rendezvous point. Her friend would give her resupplies and would be her companion for the rest of the hike.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
It was located three miles down the hill from where he and Ben had been sleeping up on that trail. Mark was positioned up against a tree. His jacket was open, his gloves were off, and his boots were off, and they were placed right next to him. An autopsy concluded he must have died within 24 to 36 hours of leaving that trail.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
So there's lots of questions with this one, namely, why did Mark, in the middle of the night, get up, not tell Ben where he was going, and then leave the trail and walk three miles away? The trail they were on was very well-worn, that even at night in a snowstorm, it would be very obvious if you were on the trail or if you were off the trail. So Mark had to have known he was leaving the trail.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
But even if Mark had a great reason for wanting to leave the trail, just hours earlier, he couldn't even stand. That's why they were even laying on the trail to begin with, because he couldn't go any farther. So the idea that he can just jump up in the middle of the night and navigate this really difficult terrain for three miles in total darkness in the snow, that doesn't make sense either.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And then you have Ben's dream where he hears Mark screaming for help and he's yelling for Ben to come save him as he's getting dragged off the trail. There's a good chance what Ben was hearing and seeing in his dream was actually playing out just several feet away from him down the trail. The next and final story of today's episode is called Big Footprint.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
In early July of 1953, Mr. and Mrs. Huggin, along with their three young daughters, left their home in Winnipeg, Canada for a six-week summer vacation. They were headed to the girls' grandparents' summer cabin in Wade, Ontario, which is one of the more remote and wild sections of Ontario.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
Their cabin was right in the middle of this huge swampy forest, and they were not too far from one of the biggest lakes in Ontario called Fox Lake. The family arrived late on July 4th, so they didn't do anything when they arrived. They just hung out at the cabin. And then early the next day, all the adults decided they wanted to take the girls to Fox Lake for the day.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
So they began gathering all the supplies they would need while the three girls played outside the cabin. Now there's no neighbors or anybody else anywhere near this cabin. And so it was totally normal to have the girls just play outside. They were not concerned about them getting taken or something.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And so the two older girls played in the front yard of the cabin and Geraldine, the five-year-old, was playing on the side of the cabin.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
So the two girls in front couldn't see Geraldine and the adults, they were keeping their eye on all three girls, but they were mostly just kind of going in and out of the cabin, getting their stuff together, periodically poking their head out, but the girls were fine. At 10 a.m.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
that morning, the parents had finally packed up the car and they were ready to collect the girls to head over to the lake. And so they went outside, they got the two girls that were out front and they went to the side of the house and they couldn't find Geraldine. Now, they weren't worried because where could she have gone?
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
When Eloise told her parents what her plans were, they were not concerned for her safety because she was an experienced backpacker. She had made trips like this before. And so they said, great, we'll see you when you get back. So on November 4th, Eloise sets out to begin her journey down the Appalachian Trail. And the first couple of days of her hike were great. The weather was beautiful.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And so they walked around the house, they're yelling for Geraldine and they asked the two girls, you know, have you seen Geraldine? Where'd she go? And they're like, oh, we don't know. She was just over on the side of the house a minute ago. And so they can't find her outside. And so they go in the cabin thinking she must have gone in there because that's the only place she could be.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
But after thoroughly looking through the cabin and not finding her, they started to get a little bit more worried. At this point, the adults start talking to each other and they're saying, did anybody see Geraldine in the past couple of minutes? Has anybody seen her? And they all said, yeah, I poked my head out the window and I saw her within the past 10 minutes right on the side of the cabin.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And so they all agreed within the past 10 minutes they had seen her right outside the cabin. So they're alarmed they can't find her, but they're thinking we're gonna find her. They go back outside and they're looking around and they're yelling for her. Now this is such a remote section of Ontario that there's really no noise pollution and sound travels really, really well.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And so when they were yelling her name, it was booming through the woods. And even if Geraldine had sprinted for 10 minutes away from the cabin, she still easily would have been within earshot and all she had to do was just yell back and they would see her. But she didn't yell back and there was no sign of her anywhere. And so at this point, the family is panicking.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And so they call the police, the police show up and they're looking around thinking, we're not gonna be able to search this very effectively on our own. This is a huge, wild, remote section of Canada. And so they called in some professional trackers that were familiar with this area to come in and help them with their search.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
They also called the army in Winnipeg to send over some people to assist as well. But as soon as the search started, the skies opened up and dumped rain all over the entire area, basically washing away any footprints that they could have used to potentially find her.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
As the day wore on and the sun was starting to set and there was still no sign of Geraldine, her father said something to the searchers that was intended to help them find his daughter, but it was just this incredibly heartbreaking comment. And what he told them was his daughter was afraid of the dark and that once it got dark out in the woods here, she's just going to sit down and cry.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And so that will stop her from moving farther away from us, hopefully, and we should be able to find her. But they didn't. And for three days, they looked everywhere for her and there was no trace of her. And to make matters even worse is the weather had been really rainy and cold, not below freezing temperatures, but close, like in the 40 degree Fahrenheit range.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
The audio from all three of these stories has been pulled from our main YouTube channel and has been remastered for today's episode. The links to the original YouTube videos are in the description. The first story you'll hear is called Pound Cake, and it's about a girl who takes a shortcut on the Appalachian Trail.
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Something is in the Woods
And she just had a light shirt and shorts on. She was not prepared for the weather. On the evening of the third day, they found footprints that they believed to be Geraldine's high up on this ledge in some moss overlooking Fox Lake.
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Something is in the Woods
And the footprints indicated that this child, which was probably Geraldine, was looking out over the lake and then turned around and walked away from the ledge down into the swamp where her footprints dissipate. And so the search effort was pushed to the swamp and they have thousands of people that are combing through this mosquito infested bush to look for this girl.
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Something is in the Woods
And once again, there's nothing. Then on the seventh day of the search, they find another set of footprints in the swamp around the area where they were looking for Geraldine. But it wasn't Geraldine's footprints because they were these huge prints that if it was a human print, they would need to be an enormous human being.
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Something is in the Woods
The scenery was amazing. And she had all this time to just kind of be by herself and look internal and think hard about what she wanted to do with her life. But on the third day, when she woke up, she was sleeping inside of a tent she'd camped just off the trail. She woke up and she had this intense sense of dread.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
Or these prints belong to some enormous animal, but they were unable to determine what animal it was. At this point, although there's not really any real evidence connecting that print to Geraldine, people are starting to suspect that whoever left this print or whatever left this print has something to do with whatever happened to Geraldine.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
Two days later, so nine days after Geraldine has gone missing, some of the professional trackers were two and a half miles away from where that large print was found in that swamp and where Geraldine's footprints were found upon that ledge. They found a piece of her plaid shirt two and a half miles away on the eastern shore of another lake called Long Lake.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And so they pushed the search effort over to that section of Long Lake, and within 24 hours, they would find Geraldine's remains. The scene where Geraldine was found was bizarre. There was very little left of Geraldine, and from what was left, it was clear there had been significant animal predation.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And so initial thoughts were, you know, she must have been attacked by wolves, you know, that's what killed her. But upon closer inspection, they saw that her clothing had not been torn and there was no blood on her clothes. So the animal predation had most likely occurred after she was deceased because they would have been able to pick around the clothing.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
Whereas if it had been a wolf attack, they would have cut right through the clothes and there would be marks that obviously, you know, she was attacked by animals. But Geraldine's remains appeared to have been dragged out of a nearby meadow to where she was ultimately located.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And so they followed the drag line into this meadow and it led them to this opening where all the grass had been matted down. And investigators said it looked like something big had been laying there. And they speculated that that might have been the area where Geraldine had been killed and then afterwards animals had dragged her over to where she was found.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And so investigators are like, well, we found that large footprint in the swamp on the seventh day in the same area where we had found Geraldine's footprints and we thought they might be connected. And now we're finding a large, what appears to be body print in this meadow that's right near where Geraldine's remains have been found.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And so probably whoever or whatever left that print in the swamp is the same one that left this print here in the meadow and therefore is probably Geraldine's killer. But this left investigators with two theories that didn't really make any sense.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
The first one was, okay, these prints, the swamp print and this body print, belonged to an enormous person, like a giant, who ran up to the cabin and abducted Geraldine and ran off and no one saw them or heard them. And for weeks, they've managed to totally evade capture despite being, again, an enormous person lumbering through the forest. So that seemed really unlikely.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
One, that this giant person even existed. And two, that if this giant person existed, how could they not get caught? They're so big running through the forest, they would be easy to spot. But if you rule out the enormous person theory, you're left with the enormous predator theory, which does make more sense on the surface because there are enormous predators that have attacked humans.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
She couldn't really place where it was coming from, but she knew something was wrong. And she's kind of doing inventory of her life. Like, what did I forget? Is there something that I'm just not thinking about right now? But she kind of pushes it aside mentally and thinks, okay, you know what? I'm just going to pack up my campsite here and get hiking.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
So that does happen. But when they looked at her remains, they ruled out a wolf attack and really they ruled out animal attacks. But if this is an enormous predator, how did it kill Geraldine? The family was told that unfortunately, because there wasn't enough left of her, they weren't able to determine a cause of death.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And so their best guess is she was probably mauled by wild animals, but they would even level with the family and say, honestly, we don't know what did this. A quick note about our stories, they are all based on true events, but we sometimes use pseudonyms to protect the people involved and some details are fictionalized for dramatic purposes. to find all of these shows.
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Something is in the Woods
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Something is in the Woods
And I'm bound to, you know, come up with what it is that's making me feel this way. So she gets out of her tent and she begins packing up her campsite. And she's looking out, kind of scanning the tree line, not because she was looking for anything, but just because she happened to be looking out. And she could have sworn that she saw a man standing, you know, 30, 40 feet away behind a tree.
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And she kind of did a double take and was staring at him. It's broad daylight. It's the morning and they're near a trail. So what is it like unbelievable that there might be someone near her at that very moment? But she kind of did a double take and she looked at them again and this person was gone.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And she stood there for a minute, just kind of looking in the direction of where she had seen this guy, wondering, you know, is my mind playing tricks on me? Did I really see someone there? You know, why aren't they showing themselves again? If there was someone there, they clearly must have just been looking at me.
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Why aren't they, you know, poking their heads out again to communicate with me in some way? We're out in the middle of nowhere. We should be talking to each other. But the guy never shows himself again.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And so as she's standing there wondering what she should do, she isn't ready to yell out to this person because there's part of her that's a little bit nervous about yelling out to some stranger in the middle of the woods. But she starts to get this really intense feeling that she's being watched. And it feels an awful lot like the sense of dread she had while she was in the tent.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Something is in the Woods
And she's starting to wonder, you know, are my instincts or is my sixth sense picking up that I'm being watched like there's some predator out there looking at me right now? And even though she has no way of knowing if that's actually true, she's alone in the middle of the woods. And even though she's experienced, she can't help but feel really vulnerable.
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Something is in the Woods
And because this guy is just not showing himself again, she feels a little bit threatened. And so she begins to panic and she starts packing up all of her stuff as quickly as she can. And as soon as she can, she takes off down the trail away from that guy she saw in the woods. As she was walking down this trail, she couldn't help but think someone was right behind her.
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And she kept turning around to see if this person or whoever it was was behind her and no one was ever there. But this visceral feeling that she was being watched, that sense of dread she had, it just was not going away. And so she started walking faster and faster before long she was running. And she's realizing that she's in a section of the Appalachian Trail that's very remote.
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Something is in the Woods
The second story you'll hear is called The Dream, and it's about three hikers who attempt a rugged hike in terrible weather. And the third and final story you'll hear is called Big Footprint, and it's about a mysterious set of footprints that are found in a marsh.
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She's not near civilization. She's not near her next rendezvous point. And so she's thinking to herself, I need to get off this trail, I need to get to a road, I need to get away from here as soon as I possibly can.
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And so her options were to continue on this trail for several miles, and it would probably take her until well into the night before she was going to reach civilization, or she could take a shortcut. Because she believed there was a road that was running parallel to her trail, but it was way down the mountain.
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It would require leaving the trail and basically cutting through the wilderness to get down to this road. But she was pretty confident it was right down there. And because this threat of this person or thing following her was so intense for her, she decided to leave the trail. She couldn't stand the idea of having to spend another night out in the middle of the woods with this person stalking her.
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And so she walks up the trail and starts running down the mountain. It wasn't long before she started to hear audible sounds coming from what she believed to be this person that was following her. And she would turn around and there'd be no one there. And then she started to walk, you know, trying to listen as she's walking. And she would hear footsteps far away from her.
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And she'd turn and there'd be nobody there. But she was certain someone was following her. Someone was stalking her. And the sounds that were coming out of this person, this animal, whatever it was, they sounded like, you know, a deep male voice. But she couldn't recognize if it was a language of some kind. It just sounded more like a grunt or a yell of some kind. And so her heart rate's elevated.
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She's panicking and she's walking as fast as she can just through the middle of the wilderness, hoping she's walking towards this road. But after walking and running for miles into the middle of nowhere, she has not come to a road. It's now completely dark out and she knows she's lost. And so she has to set up camp in the middle of nowhere.
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And she knows somewhere out in the middle of the woods is some person or something that is stalking me. She's all alone. She has no way to contact anyone. She doesn't have a cell phone. It's 1989. And so she sets up her campsite and she gets in her tent. She zips it up and she lays there hoping she doesn't hear any sounds.
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And sure enough, within minutes of being inside of that tent, she starts hearing those audible sounds coming from somewhere in the forest. And she hears what sounds like heavy footsteps walking around the perimeter of her campsite. All night long she hears this, but luckily they don't come up right to her tent. So there's some separation between her and whatever is making these sounds.
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And then finally, you know, the sun comes up, she is out of that tent, packs it up and continues running in the direction she hopes is the road. And of course, all day long, she has that sense that someone is watching her. She's hearing footsteps coming from behind her. She would turn. She doesn't see anything.
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She would hear that audible grunting sound, that low voice coming from somewhere behind her. But again, she would never see whoever it was or whatever it was that was making the sound. And then again, the sun is starting to set and she has not found the road. She hasn't found a trail.
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And she's thinking to herself, I can't even backtrack because if I turn around and start walking backwards, I'm bound to run into this very thing I'm trying to escape.
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And so once again, she sets up her campsite in the middle of nowhere, she gets inside, and as soon as she's laying in her tent, she starts hearing those heavy footsteps somewhere out in the woods, kind of walking around the perimeter of her campsite. She's hearing that low audible sound that she can't quite place.
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And at some point she falls asleep, she gets up the next morning, she jumps out of her tent, packs it up and starts running, hopefully in the direction that will bring her to civilization. A couple days later, when Eloise was supposed to meet her friend on the trail at the seven-day mark and they were going to finish the hike together, well, Eloise doesn't show up.
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But after several hours when Eloise did not show up, her friend left the trail and contacted authorities and filed a missing person report. And the police would launch this massive search for Eloise along the stretch of the Appalachian Trail where she had said she would be.
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And for the next 14 days, hundreds of police and volunteers and helicopters are scouring this area and there's no sign of Eloise. And so after 14 days from the time her friend filed the missing person report, the police had to turn the search off and they say, look, we can't find her.
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Two days after the search was terminated, so 23 days after Eloise had initially set off for her trek through the Appalachian Trail, a hunter that was out in the middle of nowhere near the Appalachian Trail discovers Eloise perched up against a tree. She's totally emaciated, she's dehydrated, she's delirious, but she's alive.
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At first, she was terrified of the hunter because she believed the hunter was this person that had been following her. But when she realized he was there to help, she went with him, she was brought back and brought to a hospital, and she was checked out, and besides being dehydrated and, you know, emaciated, she was okay.
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And she would detail in multiple interviews and in her official statement that she had been chased for the past almost three weeks in the middle of the woods, and she doesn't know who it was or why they were chasing her.
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And then interestingly, she said right before she was found, so a couple of days before this hunter finds her, this person, this thing, whatever it was that was following her, got so close to her a couple different times that she was so scared she ditched her backpack that contained all of her life-saving equipment, like her sleeping bag and her tent, and it had some food and water in there.
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She ditched that so she could be lighter, so she could run faster away from this thing that is chasing her in the woods. So you've got to figure you've got to be at such a high level of fear that you're prepared to ditch the one thing you really require to survive out in the wilderness, which was her pack full of supplies.
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And then after she's ditched her pack and she's run for some distance, she's got no supplies, no food, no water. She stumbles across this tree in the middle of nowhere that wedged inside the trunk is a cache of donuts and pound cake. And so she takes the donuts and pound cake and between that and the stream water she had found, that's what kept her alive for the last few days before she was found.
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Eloise says she has no idea what to make of her experience and law enforcement were baffled by it as well. Some people think Eloise had a mental break and she effectively made this whole situation up. That she really was lost in the woods, but no one was chasing her and she was just kind of paranoid and running around the wilderness for a couple of weeks.
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Other people, including park rangers that worked that stretch of the Appalachian Trail, believe it's possible she could have been stalked by wild men, which are basically people that live out in the mountains that are effectively feral, that live off the land, and they've been known, according to local legend, they've been known to attack park rangers, and people that live out in that area have claimed to have seen these wild men, and they kind of match the description of what she was describing.
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But as of right now, there's no official explanation for what happened to her other than she got lost and was found again.
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On March 7, 1975, 21-year-old Mark Hansen, along with two of his friends from college, Ben Fish and John Chydester, arrived at a parking lot on the eastern side of the Appalachian Trail. All three of the young men were in incredible physical shape and were excited to spend their spring break challenging themselves on some of the trail's most rigorous hikes.
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The day before they were supposed to go, they almost canceled the trip because there was this terrible weather system that was coming over the trail. And they were thinking, you know, it's going to be dangerous. It's not such a good idea. And then they started talking some more and they were like, well, we're already going to, you know, challenge ourselves.
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Citi and Doan made their way right behind the third actor, and as he continued to punch the screen of the self-serve kiosk, the two women split up, just like they had rehearsed. Citi walked around the man and got on the backside of this kiosk, basically looking at the man who was looking down at the computer screen, and Doan stayed where she was.
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And then Doan looked up at Citi and nodded, which was the signal, at which point Citi rushed forward right in front of this guy who looked up and acted surprised. And then Doan ran up behind him and grabbed his face and rubbed her hands in that wet cloth all over his face. And then Citi, as soon as that was happening, sprayed the perfume on the guy's face as well.
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And then the two women kind of giggled and said, sorry, and then walked away in separate directions. As Citi walked to the bathroom to wash the perfume off her hands, she was very conscious of the fact that she was still very likely being filmed. And so she checked her hair a couple of times and made sure her clothes were just right.
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And then she disappeared into the bathroom, she washed her hands, and then she looked up at the mirror and she smiled because she knew she had nailed this prank and she was going to be a star.
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After Citi had finished washing up, she left the bathroom and made her way over to the meetup point, kind of on the other side of the airport where Doan, James, and the other producers were going to meet up, but no one was there.
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And she thought that was weird because they had totally planned to meet at this point after the prank, but after a little while, Citi told herself that, you know, maybe they had already headed down to the taxi waiting area, and that's where they are, and they're waiting for me.
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so city left the airport and went to the taxi waiting area but when she got there she found herself alone again and so city would stand there looking around waiting for about 15 minutes and when still she didn't see anybody she texted james and said you know where are you but she didn't get a response and so feeling kind of annoyed city finally just flagged down a taxi on her own hopped in and told the driver she just wanted to go back to her hotel
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And then on the drive to the hotel, Citi started to get carsick and kind of nauseous, and she figured it didn't help that she had drank a bunch the night before, so she was still a little bit hungover. And at some point, she actually had to tell the driver to pull over so she could vomit outside.
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And so finally, when Citi got back to her hotel and got back to her room, she felt so crappy and she was so upset with how everything was going that she didn't even bother to get undressed. She just jumped into her bed and fell asleep.
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Citi would sleep for several hours, and when she woke up again, she still felt totally hungover and gross, and she rolled over and checked her phone, expecting to see a message from James explaining why they had ditched her after the prank, but there was no messages or phone calls from anyone.
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And so Citi was totally annoyed and frustrated, but just couldn't deal with this right now, and so she put her phone down and fell asleep for the rest of the night. The next morning when Citi woke up, she felt like a brand new person. She was not hung over anymore. She rolled over and grabbed her phone, again expecting to see a message from James or someone. There wasn't anything.
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And so she called James. But as soon as she called him, she could tell his phone was now off. And so suddenly, Citi thought to herself, wait a minute, did the prank go badly? Did I do something wrong? Is that why they're ignoring me? And then also, Citi thought to herself, am I still going to get paid for this prank? I told my family I was sending them 100 US dollars.
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All day that day, Citi would sit on her bed in the hotel and call and text James, but James never got back to her. And Citi did not have the contact info for the other actors or the other producers, and so she was just totally stuck, not really sure what to do. And she just couldn't understand it.
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I mean, even if it had gone really badly, if she had blown that prank for some reason, she had spent the past four weeks with these people, specifically James, flying all over the country with him, going to dinners with him. He had thrown her a birthday party. They had all these long conversations about life. What could she have possibly done that would warrant this kind of treatment?
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And so by the end of that day, when Still City had heard nothing, she just felt totally heartbroken and embarrassed and decided, you know what? I'm done with those people. Tomorrow, I'm going home to my family. And sure enough, the next day, Citi got up, she grabbed her things, she checked out of the hotel, she headed to the airport to fly back home.
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But as she was going through security, she heard all this commotion behind her and she turned and she saw six heavily armed police officers sprinting in her direction. And so instinctively, Citi tried to get out of the way to let them run past her. But instead of the men running past her, they ran right up to her, grabbed her, flipped her around and put her under arrest.
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And immediately, Citi's like, oh my goodness, this is what's been going on. They've been ghosting me for two days here because they were setting me up for another prank. I'm part of the prank now. James must be nearby filming, and they've sent these fake police officers to arrest me, and so this is all gonna be on the show.
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And so feeling totally relieved, Citi began to laugh and said to one of the officers, oh, so this is a prank, huh? And the officer was like, no, this is real. You are under arrest. And when he told her what she was being arrested for, Citi nearly fainted. Here's what really happened during Citi's last big prank.
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After Citi and Doan had run up on the third actor and Doan rubbed that towel on his face and then Citi sprayed him with perfume, the two women had then disappeared into the crowd and then the third actor just stood there staring blankly. And then he had kind of stumbled away from the kiosk over to a receptionist where he told her that he was feeling really dizzy.
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The receptionist could tell this guy definitely needed help. He was unsteady on his feet, his face was all wet, and he was speaking kind of frantically. And so she grabbed a few employees of the airport, and they clustered around him and began walking him to the medical clinic that was in the airport.
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Basically, a prank YouTube channel would go out in public and they would do something crazy to some unsuspecting person and they'd film their reaction and that reaction video would get tons of views on YouTube.
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And as they escorted him to this clinic, the man began saying he was in so much pain, and he kept walking slower and slower. And then finally, when they actually got him inside this clinic, just a couple of minutes later, he was on the ground having a seizure. Immediately, the medical staff rushed to the man's aid, and they injected him with a medicine to stop the seizure.
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And then with the help of airport staff, they lifted him up, put him on a stretcher, and then rushed him to an ambulance that was supposed to take him to the hospital. but he would die on the way there. Siti and Doan had no idea this had happened to the third actor after the prank. The two women had gone into separate bathrooms and then basically just missed each other.
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They came out staggered to the meeting point and they didn't see anyone. They both went down to the taxi waiting area thinking that's where everyone had gone. And again, Siti and Doan just didn't see each other and they both got in their own taxis and went back to their own hotels.
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As for James and the other producers, the reason they were absent after this prank had ended is because they planned to be absent after this prank. As soon as they saw Citi and Doan pulling off this prank successfully, they all got up from that restaurant and promptly rushed to board planes that would take them out of the country. because James and these other producers were not really producers.
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They didn't have a prank show. It was all a charade. In reality, they worked for the North Korean government, and James, whose real name was Ri Ji-woo, had been tasked by the North Korean government to recruit gullible women, aka Sidi and Do-won, to participate in a top-secret mission that could easily get them killed.
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In fact, this mission was so sensitive and so dangerous that James and his other TV producers had to live undercover for weeks with Doan and Citi kind of slowly convincing them that this was all legitimate and that what they were going to do was just a prank, not a top secret mission. Citi and Doan had both been recruited by James because they both were vulnerable and poor.
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Citi was also known to be very naive and believed anything she was told, and Doan was very immature and childlike and overly trusting. All the prank videos that Citi and Doan had been independently filming with James and their crew in the weeks leading up to this big final prank had not been episodes of a prank show.
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They were actually doing pranks on actual unsuspecting people, but it was all rehearsals. James and his crew wanted to make sure that Citi and Doan, one, thought this really was a prank show, and two, that they were able to actually do the prank, that they wouldn't chicken out at the end.
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And on the morning of February 12th, 2017, the day of the big prank, which in reality was the big secret mission, the perfume that Citi was given was not really perfume, and the oil that was rubbed on Doan's hands was not really oil. They were the ingredients for a deadly nerve gas called VX.
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On the night of February 12th, 2017, a young woman named Siti Aisha saw something coming over to her that surprised her so much that she gasped and she put her drink down on the bar. The bar she was at was called the Hard Rock Cafe in Kuala Lumpur, which is the capital city of Malaysia. This night for Citi had already been one of the best in recent memory, but now it was getting even better.
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Now, separately, these ingredients would not have harmed either of these two women, but when you combine those ingredients, that's when it turns into a deadly poison. And so that was why Citi and Doan had been told to do this prank together, because James and his crew needed them to mix the VX gas on their target's face. And the target was not an actor.
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His name was Kim Jong-nam, and he had no idea what was going on when Sidi Ndoan touched his face and sprayed him with perfume, but he was dead within 20 minutes, and his death would have been exceptionally painful. it would turn out Sidi and Dowon had been tricked into participating in one of the biggest political assassinations in recent history.
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Because Kim Jong-nam, the target, was actually the exiled brother of the leader of North Korea, Kim Jong-un. And it's widely believed that Kim Jong-un is the one who actually authorized this assassination.
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Both Siti and Doan were initially charged with murder in Malaysia, which comes with an automatic death sentence, but those charges were quickly dropped when it was discovered that these two women were clearly victims as well.
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Surveillance video at the airport shows Citi and Doan handling the extremely deadly nerve agent ingredients so casually, and then after they pulled off their prank, which meant they now had VX gas on their hands, they casually were touching their hair and touching their clothes. It's obvious they have no idea what they're doing.
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The sickness that Citi started to feel after the prank was not a hangover. Those were symptoms of VX gas poisoning. It just wasn't enough to kill her. Neither James nor any of the other TV producers has ever been arrested, and to this day, North Korea still says they had nothing to do with this assassination. A quick note about our stories.
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Because a waitress was walking over to her carrying a birthday cake with a candle lit in the middle, and Citi knew it was for her. So she stepped forward kind of bashfully, and all of Citi's friends who were there with her kind of formed up around her. And as the waitress came over to Citi, the friends all immediately began singing happy birthday to Citi.
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It was Citi's 25th birthday, and she could not believe how far she had come. Here she was in this beautiful American-styled restaurant, surrounded by her friends, who were these big TV show producers, and tonight they were throwing a party for her. Something that did not happen often in Citi's life to this point.
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After Citi's friends finished singing Happy Birthday, Citi leaned forward and she blew out her candle, but she didn't even make a wish before she blew it out. Because to her, she felt like she had everything she had ever wanted. And so instead, as she blew that candle out, she just made a point to feel incredibly grateful for the life that she now had.
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Because not long ago, Siti's life looked very different. Siti had grown up in a tiny town inside of a jungle in Indonesia. She was the youngest of three children, and her parents were very poor farmers that barely made enough money to provide shelter and food for their kids. In fact, Siti's parents were so poor that they couldn't afford to send her to high school.
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Well, during this prank heyday on YouTube, there was one YouTube channel that pulled off a prank that really stood out amongst the thousands and thousands of other pranks that were getting pumped out around this time.
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They needed her to stay home and go to work to help support the family. Citi would end up getting married and she would have a son with her husband, but her husband would divorce her and not provide any support for their kid. And so suddenly Citi was the single mother trying to look out for her son while also trying to provide for her parents and her other siblings.
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And eventually it became so difficult to find enough work to provide for all these people that Siti was forced to go abroad and look for work elsewhere outside of Indonesia, which meant she had to leave behind not only her parents and siblings, but also her son. Her son had to stay with her parents. Siti would ultimately find work as a masseuse in a hotel in Malaysia called the Flamingo.
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Now, Siti really did not like this work at all, but it paid well enough and she needed the money badly enough that she decided to just keep on doing it. Sometimes, Citi, like a lot of the other girls that she worked with at the hotel, would daydream about being discovered as a model or a singer or an actress and getting taken away from this life to a life of luxury and wealth and leisure.
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But Citi never really expected that to happen. Next to Citi at the bar was her producer, whose name was James. And James had his arm around her, and he suddenly flashed her his cell phone, and he kind of pointed to the screen. And Citi looked at it, and she saw there was a text message from someone, but it was in a language that she didn't recognize. And she asked James, you know, what is that?
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And James grinned at her and said, this is my boss telling me that you are already a superstar in Korea. And when Citi heard this, she was totally embarrassed, but also really excited. City had met James about a month ago in January of 2017 when City and some of her friends from the hotel had decided to go out for the night. Now, City very rarely went out.
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And the reason this particular prank stood out so much was because one, it was masterfully planned, two, it was brilliantly executed, and three, most memorably, it had massive intended and unintended consequences. We're talking international scandal level consequences.
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She basically worked and slept and then sent home her money to her family. But for whatever reason, she had been convinced by her friends to go out and have a good time. And so she was all dolled up and she and her friends were standing in line to get into a bar when a very handsome man wearing a suit, James, walked up to City and said, have you done any acting?
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And Citi, wearing her best clothes with her friends, she suddenly felt bold and she told this guy who she didn't know that, no, I haven't, but I'd like to try. And so James asked her if she'd come with him, and she said okay. And they went to this cafe, and they sat down, got coffees, and James explained to Citi who he was.
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And he told her he was a Japanese television producer who specialized in hidden camera prank videos. And he needed actresses to put on pretty clothes and pull pranks on unsuspecting people on camera. Citi had initially been very skeptical of James and this proposition, but at the same time, back then, prank videos were all the rage on YouTube, they were on mainstream TV, they were everywhere.
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And Citi knew that, but she had never thought about being in one. She just sometimes liked to watch them. But James would tell her, this is really easy work and you'll get paid well for it. And so Citi had ultimately said, okay, yeah, I'll do it with you. And after she said yes, her life had been a whirlwind.
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No longer was she a masseuse at a hotel, but instead, she was like a celebrity, flying all over the country, filming all these prank videos, and James' bosses were so pumped, they kept messaging him, telling him how amazing she was, and how every video she was doing was outperforming anything they hoped it could do. I mean, everything was going perfectly.
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Citi took a few more bites of her birthday cake, and then she checked her watch and saw it was almost 10 p.m., which for James and her other friends might be early, but for Citi, that was pretty late. Plus, she had already had a lot of alcohol that night, and so that was making her more tired.
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And so she told James and the others she was gonna leave, she thanked them for the party, and then she headed out and went to her hotel. As soon as Citi was in her room, she immediately called her mother. Citi and her mom talked all the time, sometimes multiple times a day. And this night, Citi just really missed her mom and she really missed her son.
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And as soon as she called her mom, her mom picked up and they chatted for a bit. And Citi told her all about how she'd had this amazing birthday party and how excited she was about the next day because they were shooting a really big prank. It was going to be their biggest one yet, and it would have the biggest payout of any of the videos she had done so far.
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This one, tomorrow, was going to pay her 100 US dollars, and Citi told her mom, don't worry, I'm sending all of it back home to you all. Citi's mother was so thankful and so excited for her daughter, and she said, that's wonderful, get a good night's sleep, and I'll be thinking of you tomorrow.
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And after that, Citi talked to her son for a couple of seconds, and then they hung up, and Citi crawled into bed, she turned off the light, and she tried to sleep, but she couldn't. She was too excited about tomorrow's shoot.
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She and James had been talking about this particular prank for the last week, and they'd been rehearsing it over and over again, and now here she was on the precipice of actually doing it in real life. The pranks that Citi did were all pretty similar and pretty simple.
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She and James would go to some train station or some hotel or some other public area and they would identify an unsuspecting older man and then Citi, all dressed up, would go up to this guy while she was being filmed at a distance and she would either kiss the man on the cheek or spray him with perfume or rub chili oil on his hand and then she would giggle and run away and then the camera crew would zoom in on the man's face
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as he's kind of bewildered and trying to figure out why that had just happened. But tomorrow's prank, even though it was pretty similar to the one she had done, it would be the first time she'd be working with another actor. In fact, two other actors. One of the actors was a woman who would be doing the pranking with Citi, and then their target, the unsuspecting man, was also an actor.
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James and the Japanese television production company had insisted that for this prank to work, this guy really did need to be in on it. Citi had already met and rehearsed a couple of times with the other woman who she'd be doing this prank with, but she had not met the third actor, the unsuspecting man yet. She'd be meeting him the next day, actually during the prank.
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Citi would eventually fall asleep that night, and then her alarm would go off fairly early the next morning, and when it did, Citi immediately got out of bed and she got dressed in a dark form-fitting outfit, she put on some red lipstick, and then she hustled out of her room downstairs and out of the hotel to meet James, the woman actress she'd be working with that day, and the other producers who were involved in the production.
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Then, as a big group, they hopped in a cab and went to the international airport where this big prank was going to take place. And when they got there, they made their way to a restaurant in the departures area to wait for the third actor, the unsuspecting man, to show up so they could begin the shoot.
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And while they waited, Siti and the other actress she'd be working with struck up a conversation. The other actress's name was Duan Thi Hoang, and she was a 28-year-old woman from Vietnam.
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And just like Siti, she had come from a poor family, and she had gone abroad to find work to help support her family, and it was during this time that she was abroad that she was recruited to star in these prank videos. But unlike Citi, who daydreamed about maybe being a singer or a model or an actress or something someday, for Doan, acting was the only thing she ever thought of.
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Her whole life, the only thing she ever wanted was to be an actress. In fact, Doan had left school to pursue a career in show business. She had been on a show called Vietnam Idol, but unfortunately did not make it past the first round. And she had actually done a few other prank videos with a different production company But neither of those two ventures had ever really panned out.
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It wasn't until she was recruited by James and his team to be a part of these videos that Doan finally felt like she was on the right track. And as they talked, Citi couldn't help but feel like Doan was just a little bit weird. She did like Doan, she had no issues with her, but Doan had chose to wear, for this big shoot today, a very childish outfit.
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Instead of wearing something similar to what Citi had on, which Citi imagined she would be, Doan was wearing this weird childish looking t-shirt that just said LOL on it, and she was carrying around with her everywhere this huge oversized teddy bear. but Citi just chalked it up to, you know, maybe James and the other producers told Doan to dress this way, and that's why.
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The group took their time at breakfast inside of this restaurant, just waiting for this third actor to show up. And finally, at 9 a.m., so after an hour of just sitting there, one of the producers actually said, hey, there he is right there. And so Citi and Doan and James, they looked out into the very crowded area.
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And sure enough, where the producer was pointing was this guy who looked exactly like all of their other victims. He was this middle-aged, stocky guy carrying a briefcase who totally blended in with the hundreds of other people out there. And the producers told Siddy and Doan that it looked like this actor had already begun the scene.
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He was already heading over to the self-check-in kiosk, which was like the start of this prank. And so they told Siddy and Doan, like, go, go, start the prank.
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And so Citi grabbed the perfume that she was given to spray in this guy's face, and the producers rushed to rub this oil on Doan's hands along with give her a wet cloth, because that was what she was going to need for her side of this prank. And then Citi and Doan stood up and began making their way out into the very crowded terminal.
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And as she walked, Citi couldn't help but feel very nervous because she knew this was her big chance to show James and the other producers that she could work well with other actors and that she could do a fairly complex prank.
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He seemed like a really healthy fit guy, who actually just the day before had gone for a casual 8 mile run. And he was also this big outdoorsman, always going on hikes and going on these long hunts. And so the idea that this guy had just suddenly died seemed really suspicious. The police did find a painkiller pill bottle on the bedside table next to Eric's side of the bed.
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When they asked Corey what she thought might have happened, she was totally in shock, but she did say, you know, I don't know, I have no idea what happened to him. But, you know, the day before, he did get that allergy shot, and he had a kind of adverse reaction to it, and really wanted to go to bed quite early, which seemed odd.
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But both Corey and the first responders agreed that it seemed pretty far-fetched that an allergy shot would lead to Eric's death. Suicide was also considered a possibility by first responders, but Eric really didn't have any reason to want to harm himself. He was a very devoted and loving father who adored his sons.
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He coached all their sports teams and went on all these adventures with them and was always out back kicking a soccer ball around with them. And his business was booming, and he had just learned that night that his wife's business was potentially going to start booming as well.
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And so ultimately, the police told Corey that we're just going to have to open an investigation and try to figure out what happened and we'll be in touch. And if you think of anything that might help the investigation, please let us know. And Corey said, of course, I'll tell you. But she really wasn't listening.
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All she was thinking about was her three sons who were still sleeping in their beds and had no idea their dad was now gone. Over the next few weeks, while the family waited for autopsy results, Corey really focused her energy on her three boys who were really hit hard by the loss of their dad. Eric had been such a hands-on father that his absence was enormous in these boys' lives.
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The five-year-old kept asking, where's dad and when can I see him again? The older two boys, who did sort of understand that their dad was dead, would also ask questions like, well, can dad still see us or can dad still hear us? And these questions broke Corey's heart because she did not have an adequate answer to any of them.
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And so she tried to find a children's book online and in bookstores that dealt with grief in hopes that that would kind of help her sons deal with what they were going through, but none of the books she got helped at all.
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And so a few weeks after Eric's death, when still nobody knew anything about how Eric died or what had really happened, Corrie decided that she would take a different approach to helping her son's grief. Instead of trying to read a book that somebody else wrote about how to handle grief, Corey just called her sons around one night and began telling them a story about their dad.
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And as she told them this kind of made-up story about their dad being this angel that was taking care of them, she began drawing pictures with a crayon and paper of their dad with wings and a halo, and she'd draw the kids down below waving up at their dad. And she would tell the boys that your dad is an angel now and he's looking down on you and he can hear you and he loves you.
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And this really seemed to work for the boys. It was like for the first time since his passing that the boys kind of connected with the fact that their dad was gone, but they still had this meaningful connection with him. And so very quickly, Corey's stories about their dad and the illustrations that would go with them became a ritual.
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Every night, Corey would tell these stories and draw these pictures. And so as the days and weeks went by, with still no word and no closure about what happened to their dad, Corey had a sort of epiphany.
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these stories corey told her kids about their dad and how now he was this angel looking out for them she could see firsthand how powerful it was and how really it was helping her sons cope with this loss and she thought you know why don't we turn our stories and all these illustrations into an actual grief book for kids that way other families whose children are dealing with loss can read these stories as well and find some comfort
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After all, Corey knew firsthand there really weren't any good grief books on the market. And so she knew for those that needed this, this would be huge.
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On April 13th, so six weeks after Eric had died and several weeks after Corey and her kids had begun officially writing this kid's grief book, Corey was backing out of her driveway when from the other end of the cul-de-sac, she saw a police car coming down the way and it was the lead detective on Eric's case, Detective Woody.
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And as the detective came down the road, he was waving to Corey, clearly getting her to stop for a second. And so Corey, she parked her car, she hopped outside and went up to talk to him.
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And immediately, Detective Woody got out of his car, he walked up to Corey, and with a grave look on his face, he told her that he had some big news for her and it was going to be pretty upsetting, but he knew he had to tell her in person and right away. He told her that the autopsy results were in, and they determined that Eric had not died of natural causes.
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He had actually died from a fentanyl overdose. Fentanyl is a very powerful opioid that's often mixed with heroin, and just a little bit of fentanyl can kill someone. And Eric, it would turn out, had five times the lethal dose of fentanyl in his system. Corey was totally shocked at this news and told the detective that Eric didn't do drugs.
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The only drug he did was, periodically, he would eat a marijuana gummy before bed, but that was it. So this really didn't make any sense. The detective was respectful and kind of nodded his head and said, I totally understand that. But, you know, these are the results and we need to find out where he got fentanyl from.
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And so we're going to need to search all of the electronic devices in your house to see if we can find communication between your husband and whoever got him the fentanyl.
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Corey told the detective that of course they could do that, but as she began thinking about all of their devices, she suddenly remembered that Eric's business partner, Cody Wright, had actually taken Eric's laptop very shortly after Eric had passed away. Now, Corey didn't know why Cody had taken the laptop, but Cody had been a thorn in both Corey and Eric's side for several years now.
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Eric and Cody had been very close friends when they had started their masonry business together about a decade earlier, but they'd had a serious falling out a few years back. The two men had been on this elk hunting trip, and at one point Eric had illegally shot and killed a bull elk, and Cody had actually reported Eric after this hunting trip to the game wardens.
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And as a result, Eric got in a lot of trouble and was temporarily banned from hunting anywhere in Utah. The two men still managed to continue to work together and build their masonry business, but it was very clear their relationship was totally fractured and would never be repaired.
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Now, Corey didn't get into all the details of the tensions with Cody, but she did tell Detective Woody that, you know, if you want access to Eric's laptop, you've got to go talk to Cody because he took it for some reason.
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And also, you really just ought to talk to Cody in general because, you know, maybe he has more to do with what happened to Eric and this whole fentanyl thing than he's letting on. The detective told Corey that he appreciated the information and he appreciated being allowed to go in and collect all the devices and that he would go talk to Cody and try to retrieve Eric's laptop.
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And then after that, the detective thanked Corey and said they'd be in touch soon. But after this conversation with Corey, the investigation into Eric's death kind of stalled out. When police did follow up with Cody, they didn't find anything really worth pursuing. And outside of talking to Cody, no new information came in about Eric's death or about his connection to fentanyl.
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And so really there was nothing for police to operate on. And so while the family just kind of waited for more information to come out about whatever happened to Eric, Corey just focused her energy on taking care of her three boys and writing this grief book with them.
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And finally, on March 5th, 2023, so almost exactly a year after Eric has died, and still police have no idea what happened to him, the grief book was finally done, and Corey self-published it on Amazon under the title Are You With Me? And right away, the book was a total hit with parents of grieving children.
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And as the five-star reviews poured in, so too did requests from local media for Corey to be interviewed and talk about this book and why she wrote it and how her kids are doing.
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Corey had no idea her book would be this successful, and so at first she was really terrified to do any of these interviews, but eventually she decided she would just say yes to all the interviews because she was very proud of what her and her kids had created, and she knew Eric would be proud too.
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However, what Corey didn't know was there was going to be a massive unintended consequence from publishing this book. Ever since Eric was found dead in 2022, the police in Utah began painstakingly searching all of the electronic devices that the Richens owned and that Cody, Eric's business partner, owned.
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And basically, they were just looking anywhere for some sign of communication between Eric and whoever had given him the lethal fentanyl dose. And at some point during the search of all these devices, the police found something very unusual. And they knew it very likely had to do with Eric's death.
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But they didn't really have any evidence to prove that, and so they just had to kind of sit on it and wait to see what happened next. And what happened next was, shortly after Corey published her grief book, it got all this media attention, and in turn, because of this attention, Eric's death, specifically the unsolved nature of his death, also got a lot of media attention.
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And eventually, several people who kept seeing all this news about Eric's unsolved death reached out to police and said, you know what? He did not overdose on fentanyl. He was murdered, and I'm almost positive I know who did it.
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Lo and behold, the alleged killer that all these people brought up to the police was the same person that the police in Utah had become suspicious of because of all those unusual things they had found during their search of all of the electronic devices.
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And so on May 8th, 2023, not long after getting all these tips about this alleged killer, the police in Utah felt like they finally had enough ammo to go after this person and they headed out to make an arrest. While we don't know for sure what happened, because again, this story, it's ongoing. This case has not even gone to trial yet.
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Here is what prosecutors say really happened to Eric Richens on March 3rd, 2022, the night he died. That night, Eric was upstairs when he heard Corey down in the kitchen calling for him, saying to come down and join her.
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And so he went downstairs, he went into the kitchen, and immediately he saw his wife grinning ear to ear, and she promptly handed him a drink and said, I have big news and we're going to celebrate. And after the two of them went up to their bedroom, Corey told Eric all about this big real estate deal and how their company was about to profit a million dollars.
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And then after that, they clinked their glasses together, said cheers, and took a sip from their cups. The drink that Corey made for both of them was called a Moscow Mule. It's made with ginger beer, vodka, and lime. But when Corey mixed Eric's Moscow Mule, she added one additional ingredient, a lethal dose of fentanyl.
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It would turn out Corey had been stealing money from Eric's bank accounts and he had found out. Eric also had discovered that Corey had been taking out these massive loans in their family's name, which Eric was really upset about.
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In fact, Eric was so upset with Corey that he wanted a divorce and was talking to a divorce lawyer and making sure after the divorce was finalized that Corey could not touch his money. But perhaps sensing that a divorce was imminent and the money faucet would be turned off, Corey simply took out a $2 million policy on Eric and then killed him.
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And then shortly after that, in order to help her sons deal with the loss of their father, who she killed, she wrote a grief book about it and sold it for a profit. Police say Corey had been working for weeks to figure out the right fentanyl dose to give to her husband.
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On Valentine's Day that year, Corey had given Eric a poisoned sandwich that had fentanyl in it that she attached a love note to, but it obviously did not kill Eric, he just broke out in hives. So Corey got a stronger dose of fentanyl, she put it in his drink on March 3rd, and this time it worked.
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The story that Corey told first responders when they arrived to hopefully try to save Eric was that, you know, they had had this celebratory drink and then they went to bed and then she had gotten up to see her son. And then, you know, when she came back at 3 a.m., Eric was cold to the touch and she called 911.
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But in reality, after she poisoned her husband and he's laying there still on the bed slowly dying from this overdose, she just got up and paced around the house for several hours googling things like how to destroy electronic evidence and luxury prisons for the rich in America.
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These searches were, of course, the highly unusual and suspicious things that the police saw when they looked through all those devices during the initial part of the search. But as much as it made them think Corey likely had something to do with this, they didn't have enough to actually arrest her.
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However, after Corey published her grief book and went on this big tour promoting her grief book, Eric's family, who's watching this happen on TV and listening to the radios, I mean, they just couldn't take it. It disgusted them because they secretly believed that Corey had killed Eric over money.
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They didn't like Corey to begin with, and it just felt like she did this, and now she's profiting on Eric's death. And so family members began reaching out to police in Utah and they said, you really need to look into Corey. We think she killed Eric. This whole grief book thing is a joke. She's a killer.
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Ultimately, it was those calls from Eric's family to the police combined with Corey's very unusual and suspicious search history and electronic activity on the night that Eric died that allowed police to arrest her at her home on May 8th, 2023.
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Corey, who denies any wrongdoing and says she did not kill her husband, is currently charged with aggravated murder, which could lead to the death penalty if she's convicted. She's being held without bail while she awaits trial, and her book, Are You With Me?, is no longer being sold on Amazon. A quick note about our stories.
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The links to the original YouTube videos are in the description. The first story you'll hear is called Loan Shark, and it's about a student who takes drastic measures to pay off debt. And the second and final story you'll hear is called Western Russian Farm Animal, and the plot of the story is so absurd it sounds like badly written fiction. But it's not fiction. It really happened.
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He'd oftentimes post pictures of exotic sports cars and expensive watches and clothes, and he would travel the world to Paris, London, New York City, and take all these pictures showing off this incredible life he had. He really wanted people to believe that he was this fabulously wealthy, successful guy.
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Alan was only able to project this phony lifestyle on social media because he was spending his father's money. His father was a successful businessman who was also the publisher of a newspaper that was quite successful. And so Alan would just spend his money.
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And then even after his father would give him money, Alan would steal his credit card and additionally rack up thousands of dollars of credit card debt. But as media began to shift away from print media to almost all digital, a lot of newspapers began to fail because they weren't able to transition to digital.
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And his father's newspaper was not making that transition very well, and they were losing money left and right. And so Alan's father told everybody in his family, with a focus on Alan, that we all need to cut back on our spending because money's tight right now and it's unclear if it's going to turn around. So we've got to be careful with how much money we do have.
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Alan acted like he was going to cut back on his lavish lifestyle, but in reality, he wasn't going to. He was totally addicted to spending money and giving off this vibe that he was so wealthy and successful. And so around this time, Alan steals his grandmother's credit card and secretly leaves the country and goes to Paris to have this vacation on his own.
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He's taking these pictures in front of the Eiffel Tower and he's spending all this money. And his father finds out that he's stolen this credit card and he's furious. And instead of waiting for Alan to come home and saying, don't do that again, he decides he's going to send him a message that he's going to remember. And he calls the police. Alan gets charged with theft.
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He pleads guilty and he has to go before a judge who sees that he has no criminal record. So he kind of goes easy on him. And he says that you need to pay back all the money you spent to your grandmother. and you need to go to an addiction program to try to break this habit of yours, to stop spending all this money. After Alan leaves court, his father felt like he finally got the message.
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It seemed like it had finally gotten through to him that this was a really big problem, and he felt like he had made the right decision in calling the police. But in reality, Alan hadn't changed at all. As soon as he got back from court, he was stealing from people outside of the family.
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He was taking loans from loan sharks, all of this just to keep up with his phony appearance he portrayed on social media. On October 9th, 2014, Alan owed $3,000 to a particular loan shark and had no way of paying it back. So instead of asking his parents for money, which for him would have been too embarrassing, he decides the best course of action is to kill his entire family.
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And so he strolls into his home and he shoots his mom dead. He shoots his sister dead. And then he waits for his dad to come home and he shoots him dead because his big plan is with his whole family gone, he's going to become the sole heir to the family's estate. And that will be enough money to not only pay off this $3,000 debt, but have a little leftover so he can go on vacation to Paris again.
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So after he's committed this horrible crime, he leaves his family where they are. He goes and takes the surveillance footage from inside the house. It was on a DVD. Takes the DVD out. Takes the murder weapon. Leaves the house. Chucks the DVD and the weapon into a lake. And proceeds to drive to Dallas, where he checks into a very fancy hotel and meets up with friends and parties the whole weekend.
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But before we get into today's stories, if you're a fan of the Strange, Dark, and Mysterious delivered in story format, then you've come to the right podcast because that's all we do and we upload twice a week, once on Monday and once on Thursday.
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His friends that were with him that weekend would later tell investigators that Alan seemed totally normal. There was no red flags. There was no indication that anything was wrong. He was just laughing it up and having a great time that whole weekend. The following Monday, when Alan's father doesn't show up for work, the police are notified. They go to the house and they find the Ruby family.
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When police went out and got Alan and brought him back to the station to chat with him and tell him what happened and see if he knew anything, his sad reaction to his whole family now being deceased was apparently so insincere that officers almost immediately assumed that he was probably the guy that did it.
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Ultimately, Alan would confess and the prosecutor wanted to push for the death penalty, but Alan's remaining living family members actually said, don't do the death penalty. We don't want to risk that not happening. We want to see justice served right now.
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Can we create a plea agreement where he gets life in jail, but there's absolutely no way for him to get paroled, no matter how good his behavior is, no matter how old he is, no matter what, he can't ever get out of jail. And so they did. They created that plea agreement. They gave it to Alan to sign. He signs it.
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And as they're walking out of the courtroom, his last remaining family members disown him and say, may God have mercy on your soul. And they leave. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. So 2024 was an incredible year for me, my family, and for Ballin Studios. But I plan on making 2025 my most exciting year yet. Every January brings you 365 blank pages waiting to be filled.
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Credit limits range $20 to $500. Go to Chime.com slash disclosures for details. The next and final story of today's episode is called Western Russian Farm Animal. At around 9 p.m. on March 3rd, 2022, a 31-year-old woman named Cori Richens tucked her three young sons into their beds and then headed downstairs to her kitchen inside of her luxurious home in suburban Utah.
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Once she got down to the kitchen, she yelled out for her husband, whose name was Eric, to come join her in the kitchen. Cory had some big news that she had just learned that day, and now that their kids were all tucked away in their beds and were off to sleep, she and her husband could celebrate this big news and share a drink together.
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A moment later, Eric walked into the kitchen and Corey grinned at him and handed him his drink and then gestured for them to go upstairs to their bedroom. And so the two of them went upstairs, they sat down on the bed, and then Corey broke the big news.
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Corey's tiny real estate company had just found out that day that they were very likely going to close on a deal for this gorgeous 20,000 square foot mansion in Utah for $2 million. Now, Corrie knew once she bought this property, she could do a couple of renovations to it and then quickly sell it for $3 million, meaning she was about to make a $1 million profit.
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Corey had been working really hard on her real estate business for years, but this really represented the first big break. She and Eric lived in a very conservative part of Utah, where it was kind of expected that someone like Corey would stay home with the kids and be a good housewife, and that would be her life. But Corey didn't really want that.
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She wanted to have a professional career that was kind of on par with her husband's. Eric ran a very profitable masonry company that allowed the family to take vacations to Mexico and Spain every year, and also to afford their sprawling property at the end of the cul-de-sac.
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Corey had stayed home when the three boys were much younger, but now that they were five, seven, and nine years old, they had decided to hire a nanny, which had allowed Corey to finally go out and pursue her professional dreams.
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And so totally beaming with pride, Corey sat there on the bed and clinked her husband's glass and went over all the details of this deal and talked about how great their lives were about to become with all this additional income.
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But fairly quickly, both of them decided they were too tired to stay up and celebrate any longer, especially Eric, who earlier that day had gotten an allergy shot and it had totally knocked him out. He was feeling kind of weak and tired. And so the two of them decided to just go to bed.
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And so after brushing their teeth and changing, they got into their bed, they turned off the light, and they were about to lay down and go to sleep when they heard their seven-year-old crying in his bedroom.
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And both parents let out a groan, and then Corey, she stood up, indicating she would handle this because they knew often their seven-year-old would have nightmares and the only way he would go back to sleep was if his mom laid with him.
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And so Corey, she kissed Eric, and then as Eric rolled over to go to bed, Corey walked out of the room, she went down the hall, went into her son's bedroom, she got under the covers, and then before long, she and her son had fallen asleep. A few hours later, Corey suddenly sat up inside of her son's bed. It was about 3 a.m., and for a second, she couldn't even figure out where she was.
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The house was silent, it was totally dark, and she was confused, but then she remembered she had gotten up to tend to her son, and so she checked on her son, she saw he was still sleeping, and so she climbed out of the bed, she tucked him back in, she gave him a kiss, and then she left his room, went down the hall, and went back into her bedroom, where she climbed into her bed.
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and she saw that Eric had kicked off all the covers, and he was sleeping on his back. And so Corey laid down on the bed and kind of rolled up right against her husband, and she pulled the covers up over both of them, and then she closed her eyes to go to sleep. But right as she did that, she noticed something very strange. Eric's body felt freezing cold. Corey opened her eyes and sat up in bed.
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She turned over and kind of pushed Eric to see if he would sit up and figure out why he was so cold. But Eric didn't budge, and when she pushed him, he felt really heavy, like dead weight. And so suddenly starting to panic, Corey yelled Eric's name several times, but Eric didn't budge. And so Corey leapt from the bed, she grabbed her phone, and she dialed 911.
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And when the dispatcher picked up, Corey was so hysterical, as she's looking at her husband lying motionless in his bed, that she could barely tell the dispatcher what was going on. But finally, she did get it out to the dispatcher, and the dispatcher said, stay calm, the ambulance will be there as soon as we can.
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And so just moments later, Corey heard the sirens outside, and so she ran downstairs, she flung the door open, and practically cried with relief as the paramedics charged into the house. But when the paramedics got upstairs into the bedroom and they went to go revive Eric, they saw right away it was already too late. Eric was dead. First responders had no idea what killed Eric.
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Hey Prime members, you can binge eight new episodes of the Mr. Ballin podcast one month early and all episodes ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today. Today's podcast will feature three stories about people who vanished without a trace. The audio from all three of these stories has been pulled from our main YouTube channel and has been remastered for today's episode.
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On November 14th, when he had not returned and his girlfriend had not heard from him and couldn't get in touch with him, she called the police. The police launched this massive search for Kenny. They knew roughly where he was going to be because he had documented it so aggressively on his YouTube channel, and so they searched in that area again,
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And after about a week, they find his cell phone, and it was laying outside of an abandoned mine shaft. Now, immediately, searchers think, well, he must have fallen into this mine shaft that was almost a vertical mine shaft. He must have fallen in there to his death. So they get a camera, and they feed it down into this mine shaft, and there's no one in there.
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And very clearly, no one had been down this mine shaft in a very long time, certainly not Kenny. There were no tracks around where his phone was located, so no animal tracks or people tracks. And the phone didn't have blood on it or scratches on it. It was just sitting there with no new information. Beyond the cell phone, they had nothing else to go on, and eventually the search was terminated.
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Kenny never turned up. He was just gone after that. While it's pretty easy for people to chalk up this whole M cave thing as total nonsense and that they believe all that happened is Kenny went out into the wilderness of the Mojave Desert and ultimately got lost and died, and that's fair, I do want to offer up one thing about his description of being near the cave that first time he saw it.
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He described his body vibrating to the point where he couldn't go any further and he had to turn around and leave. The United States military uses these things called access denial systems around their highly classified installations. Anywhere where you cannot risk someone getting in, like a fence isn't good enough, they use these machines that fire beams at people that get too close.
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They're non-lethal, but it's like being thrust inside of a microwave. You feel hot and really uncomfortable and you turn around and you get the heck out of there. The fact that Kenny was right near Area 51, a highly confidential area, regardless of alien conspiracies, it's a known highly confidential base. And he's discovering this strange cave entrance that doesn't look like other cave entrances.
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And he's walking up to it, describing basically what it feels like to be hit with an access denial system. It makes you wonder, did he discover some secret entrance to some secret base? Or is this a bunch of crap and he just got lost in the desert and died? We don't know. But what we do know is that his search for M Cave probably ended his life.
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The next and final story of today's episode is called Mine is Mine. On an early morning in August of 1931, an 86-year-old man carrying a massive backpack limped into a supply store in the tiny town of Alvin, British Columbia, Canada. This man's name was Robert Brown, but everyone knew him as Volcanic because decades earlier, he had discovered a gold mine in Volcanic City, Canada.
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The following day, Mrs. Panknin, whose name was Edna, decides she wants to take her three sons down a logging road that was right behind their campsite that she had heard fed out to this beautiful little waterfall that she thought her sons would like to see. Edna gets the boys ready. She says bye to Mr. Panknin. and then she and her sons take off down this logging road.
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Volcanic had actually made his living as a gold prospector, and he had been so good at it that he had been able to retire early, And so these days, as an 86-year-old man, he pretty much got to do whatever he wanted, whenever he wanted.
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And so inside of this supply store, a young man at the cash register smiled at Volcanic and offered to let him keep his backpack at the front of the store while Volcanic shopped. And Volcanic kind of scowled back at him. I mean, he took offense to this. He knew how he must look to this clerk. I mean, Volcanic was old, short, super skinny, and he dragged his left foot when he walked.
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And so he figured, you know, this kid must think he's weak. And Volcanic hated that. He did not think he was weak. And so he said to the guy, no, I can carry my bag myself. Thank you very much.
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Then, to show the clerk there was more to him than met the eye, Volcanic flashed this big grin, revealing this gaudy, enormous set of gold teeth that he had bought when he had struck it rich in Volcanic City. And after seeing these ridiculous gold teeth, the clerk looked very taken aback, which was exactly what Volcanic wanted.
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Satisfied, Volcanic limped past the cash register and the clerk towards the back of the store, where he picked up some cooking supplies, ammo for his shotgun, and a pen to write in his journal. And then he took everything up front to check out. Volcanic watched as the clerk furrowed his brow as he rang up the items, clearly trying to make sense of what Volcanic was up to.
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He asked Volcanic if he was going camping by the Pitt River that ran through town. But Volcanic said, no, he was going to the Pitt River first, but he was gonna hike all the way along the Pitt River, go through the mountains to another body of water called Stave Lake.
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And before the clerk could ask any questions, Volcanic said he was going there because there was a hidden gold mine he was going to explore. And at this, Volcanic watched with delight as the clerk's eyes got wide. Volcanic knew most people, especially in this area, thought this gold mine was a total myth.
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And sure enough, when the clerk recovered from his surprise, he said to Volcanic, like, hey, you really ought to reconsider going there. The clerk said he had seen plenty of people come through his shop on the way out to go try to find this mine, but nobody ever came back saying they had found it. In fact, he said that some of these people didn't come back at all.
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At least two people had died because the hike to Stave Lake was miles and miles through extremely dangerous terrain. Volcanic waited until the clerk was done lecturing him, and then he leaned over the counter and he whispered to the kid that he was different. He had a secret that would allow him and only him to find that mine successfully.
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And when he did, he would come back to the store and he would lay the gold down right on the counter just to prove it to him. Then Volcanic left a handful of cash on the counter, he gathered up his supplies, flashed one more gold-toothed smile, and then made his way out the door. A few hours later, Volcanic hiked uphill along the rocky banks of the Pitt River.
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And as soon as she's on the road, it occurs to her that it's totally overgrown, the grass is really high, it's rocky and bumpy, and she's thinking to herself, there's no way any vehicle is getting down this road, and probably there's been no vehicles on this road for a very long time. This is a very isolated place on this campsite.
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He'd only covered about five miles so far, because after all, he was 86 with a bum left foot, and so he moved pretty slowly these days. But even still, only five miles into the journey, he already felt totally cut off from civilization. The Pitt River was about a thousand feet across, and it was surrounded on either side by a thick forest.
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Volcanic was hiking parallel with the river, with the water on his right and the trees on his left. It was a stark and isolated setting that would make most people feel small and vulnerable. But after so many years working as a gold prospector, Volcanic was very accustomed to being out in the wilderness all by himself, so this felt normal.
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Now, of course, decades had passed since the last time Volcanic was a gold prospector, but even now, at his old age, he still felt like he was the skilled outdoorsman he once was. Volcanic kept on hiking uphill, staying close to the shore's edge, until the sun began to set.
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And by that point, the trees on the left had begun to thin out, and Volcanic was finally able to see kind of far out beyond in the direction he was going. And he saw off in the distance, there were all these mountains. And as soon as he could see these mountains, he pulled out his journal, and he flipped the last page, and he studied the page, and then looked at the mountains, and he smiled.
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It was going to take weeks to reach the gold mine, but he knew he was going the right way. Because on that last page of his journal was a map. This map was the secret that Volcanic had told the store clerk about. It was the thing that was going to allow Volcanic to reach that gold mine where so many others had not. Volcanic had actually drawn the map himself several years ago.
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Back then, he'd been panning for gold in northern British Columbia when he had run into this indigenous woman in the forest. And this woman was deathly ill, and so out of the kindness of his heart, Volcanic had given this woman some healing herbs and then stayed with her for days until she was nursed back to health. And this woman had been so grateful to Volcanic that she had told him a secret.
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She told him that the legendary gold mine out near Stave Lake was absolutely real. And she said she knew this because her father was friends with the guy who discovered it. The man's name was Slumac, and she said he would go into the wilderness for days at a time, and then when he came back home, he'd come bearing these huge gold nuggets as big as chicken eggs.
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And not only did this woman tell Volcanic about this mine, she gave him directions to it. And so as she did, Volcanic took notes in his journal and then used those directions to construct the map. However, before Volcanic parted ways with this woman, she gave him a warning. Right before he died, she said Slumac put a curse on the mine.
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And so now, if anybody tried to reach the mine, the forest itself would stop them. And so now, standing in a clearing beside the Pitt River, Volcanic thought back to that warning.
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He wasn't afraid of what she said, but just to be safe, he figured he would spend as little time as possible in the forest, and any time he needed to pitch his tent along this journey to the mine, he would do so as far away from the tree line as he could. This was actually Volcanic's second attempt at trying to reach this gold mine. Five years earlier, he had attempted this exact same hike.
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So they walk for a little ways on this overgrown logging road until they see there's a turnoff that leads down to the water and this little waterfall. And so right away she saw there was all this brush they were going to need to walk through and the ground looked pretty rough. And Bobby, her youngest, the four-year-old, he didn't have shoes on.
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On that attempt, despite Volcanic reaching the shores of Stave Lake, which apparently was right near the entrance to this gold mine, he had to stop because he got a severe case of frostbite on his left foot. That frostbite had caused three of his toes to die and rot, and so Volcanic had to amputate all three of them with his pocket knife, right there out in the wild, no anesthetic, nothing.
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And so this is why Volcanic had to turn around on that attempt, and it's why he now walked with a limp. And Volcanic had to admit that the fact that he had been forced to literally cut off his own toes did make it seem like he had become a victim of Slumac's curse. But he also knew that it didn't take a curse to make the Canadian wilderness dangerous. He just should have worn thicker socks.
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Just then, Volcanic heard a twig snap somewhere outside of his campsite in the darkness. And so instinctively, he shot up, he grabbed a shotgun, and he turned towards the sound, half expecting a bear to come charging out of the woods. But after standing there for several minutes, nothing came out of the forest, and eventually all Volcanic could hear was the gentle sound of his fire and the river.
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The forest was totally still. As his heartbeat slowed down, Volcanic told himself that, you know, the sound he heard must have just been a rabbit running through the forest, you know, nothing to worry about. And so he lowered his gun and steadied his breathing. And he looked at his fire and he gave half a thought to just leaving his campfire burning.
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You know, just in case he heard something else, he'd have some light to go out and see what it was. But he thought he was being kind of paranoid. And so he grabbed some water and put out the fire, engulfing him in darkness. And then he climbed into his tent and fell asleep. The next morning, Volcanic got up at sunrise, packed up his tent and his camping gear, and then hiked all day long.
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And he did this day in and day out, dragging his left foot behind him for over a month. Volcanic knew he was moving much slower than a younger, healthier man would. Some days, he could barely travel a mile before feeling so exhausted that he would have to stop. But despite becoming skinnier and more ragged by the day, Volcanic kept on hiking.
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And eventually, after going all the way down the Pitt River and crossing through the mountains, he finally arrived at the shore of Stave Lake, the same place he'd been when he'd had to amputate his own toes. But this time, he was able to keep on going. Volcanic hiked all the way to the opposite side of Stave Lake, and he came to a stop to take in the view.
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Surrounding the lake were all these huge rolling mountains, and in one spot, Volcanic noticed the mountains dipped down and formed a natural bowl in the earth that was filled with this gorgeous bluish-white ice. Now, even though Volcanic had never been to this place before, he knew instinctively that that had to be Stave Glacier.
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He was going through a phase where he refused to wear shoes. And so it hadn't really mattered the entire duration of walking up the road, but it seemed like this might be too much for him to walk on. And so she told Bobby to wait on the road, and she told her other son, Jimmy, the six-year-old, to wait next to him.
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And this glacier meant everything to Volcanic because it was the last major landmark on his map on the way to this mine. According to his map, the entrance to the gold mine was located on the side of a mountain not far from the glacier. Now, Volcanic wanted to keep pushing forward and try to get to this entrance as soon as possible.
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I mean, he was excited, but the sun was starting to go down and he knew if he kept on going at night, the risk of injury was quite high. He could slip and fall. And remember, it had taken Volcanic over a month to hike into this location. He is way away from civilization. And so if he gets hurt, nobody's coming to help him. And so he decided he would stop and make camp that night.
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He pitched his tent well away from the tree line, he ate some beef jerky and biscuits, and then he crawled into his sleeping bag to try to go to sleep. But he couldn't. He was too excited about this mine. He was so close. And so he laid there restlessly for hours, listening to the sound of the wind pick up outside.
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Now, normally the sound of the wind would help Volcanic fall asleep, but tonight it was not helping. It was actually making him feel really uneasy. The wind was loud and fast, howling across the lake. And that's when Volcanic noticed that despite all the noise outside, when he looked at the fabric of his tent, it wasn't moving with the wind. It was totally stationary.
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And so Volcanic sat up and he opened up the flap of his tent and looked outside. And the second he did, it got even louder, you know, the howling wind. But he couldn't feel any wind blowing. And so he struck a match and he held it out in front of his tent, and the flame didn't even flicker again, despite all this crazy howling sounds. And that's when he realized there was no wind.
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And so feeling totally unsettled, Volcanic closed the flap of his tent, got back in his sleeping bag, clutching his gun, you know, listening to this horrifying sound outside that he couldn't make any sense of. And then by the morning when the sun came up, the sound just went away. By this point, Volcanic was so anxious just to leave and go to this mine that he didn't eat any breakfast.
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He just grabbed his journal, tore the map out of the last page, tucked it in his back pocket, and he started hiking. He still felt very uneasy about the phantom wind he had heard all night long, but now his sole focus was on this mine. He knew that if he could find it, he would not only have infinite riches, but he would also go down in history as like the greatest gold prospector ever.
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Those two would stay on the road together while she and Bill, the 10-year-old, would go past the brush, go down to the water, check it out for a couple of minutes, and then she would come back, she would pick up Bobby, and Jimmy would come along, and then they would go down and look at the water, and then they would leave.
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And on top of that, on the way back out again, he could stop at that supply store and drop some gold on the counter and rub it in that clerk's face, just like he said he would. Volcanic made his way first towards the glacier and then up the side of a mountain. He dodged tree limbs and climbed over boulders, all the while dragging his left foot on the ground.
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And then finally, up ahead, he saw this dark hole on the side of a mountain, and it looked like the entrance to a cave. Now, Volcanic could not see very far into that cave, but he was certain the gold mine had to be inside of there. And so with a rush of excitement, he made his way up to the dark entryway, and he stepped inside.
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Two months later, on November 2nd, 1931, that store clerk back in Alvin looked out the front window of his store and watched the snow begin to fall. A blizzard was coming in and all this clerk could think about was that strange old man with the gold teeth who had wandered off into the wilderness three months earlier.
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Now, the old man had told the clerk that he would stop by the store on his way out to prove he had found the gold. However, the man had not returned. And so the clerk wasn't sure if that was because, you know, he was too embarrassed because he hadn't found the mine, or if maybe he had gotten stuck out in the wilderness.
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But either way, the clerk just had a bad feeling that, you know, something bad could have happened to that guy. And so just to play it safe, the clerk grabbed his jacket, he left the store, and he went to go find the local game warden to tell him what was going on. Three weeks later, that same game warden trudged through knee-high snow at the edge of Stave Lake.
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Even though he and his search party were much younger and healthier than Volcanic, it had still taken them weeks to arrive here, mostly because of the blizzard. But in all the time it took hiking to this location, they had not found a single trace of Volcanic. The warden was beginning to wonder if this was pointless, if they should just turn around and head back.
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The links to the original YouTube videos are in the description. The first story you'll hear is called Not Human, and it's about a child who goes missing on an old logging road. The second story you'll hear is called M Cave, and it's about a vlogger who goes looking for a mysterious cave near the infamous Area 51.
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That's when he looked up and he noticed the glacier on the far end of the lake. And in the snow near that glacier was this little pop of color. The warden pointed it out to his men and they all began running towards it. And as they got closer, they realized what this thing was was a tent that had collapsed under the snow.
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Bobby didn't seem to mind, so he just sat on the road, and Jimmy was a little bit frustrated that he couldn't go with the first group, but he sat down too, and Bill and Edna took off past this brush down to the water. Now, the distance between where Bill and Edna and where Bobby and Jimmy were was only about 10 feet. It was just this brush right in the middle of them that did obscure their view.
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And then once they actually reached the tent, they shoveled off all the snow and sort of popped it back up and they looked inside. But Volcanic was not in there. Instead, they found an empty sleeping bag, they found some cooking supplies, a shotgun, some ammo, and a journal that's last page was missing. But there was also one more thing that was inside of this tent.
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On the floor, right near the opening flap of this tent, was a glass jar. The warden picked it up and he looked inside and he gasped. Volcanic Brown was never seen again, and no explanation for what happened to him was ever uncovered. His body was never found, and there were no signs of struggle anywhere in or near his campsite.
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But the contents of that glass jar that was found inside of the tent proved that either Slumac's gold mine or Slumac's curse was real. There are two slightly different versions of what people believe was found inside of that jar. The first is that the jar was filled with huge nuggets of raw gold.
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If this is true, it means the gold mine did exist and Volcanic must have found it before he disappeared. But the second version of what people say was found in that jar has a much darker meaning. In that version, when the warden held up that jar, he did see gold inside, but it was not gold from the mine. Instead, it was Volcanic's solid gold teeth.
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Almost 100 years have passed since Volcanic went missing, and still to this day, no one has ever successfully found the mine and lived to tell the tale. But to this day, people still keep looking for it, and so far, at least 33 people have either died or disappeared in search of it.
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A quick note about our stories, they are all based on true events, but we sometimes use pseudonyms to protect the people involved and some details are fictionalized for dramatic purposes. Thank you for listening to the Mr. Ballin Podcast. If you enjoyed today's stories and you're looking for more bone-chilling content, be sure to check out all of our studios' podcasts.
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They could not see each other, but they are very close to each other. And so Jimmy is sitting next to Bobby and he's getting increasingly more and more restless. He wants to go down and look at the waterfall. He wants to be down there with his older brother and his mom. And so at some point he just can't take it anymore. And Jimmy does something that to this day he regrets every single day.
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And that is he got up and left his brother. He went through the brush down to where Bill and Edna were. And as soon as Edna saw him, she was mad at him and she goes, what, you left Bobby up there? Come on. And so they turned around after about 60 seconds and went right back up. And when they got back, Bobby was gone.
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And at first, they're not like, oh my goodness, someone's abducted Bobby because there's no one on this road. They'd come up here and recognize that it's very remote. It's isolated. There's no cars that come through here. They hadn't heard anything. And so their first instinct was, okay, he probably got up, you know, and is behind a tree or he walked down the hill over here or he's nearby.
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And so they're yelling for him. They're walking around and no one's panicking yet. In fact, really, Edna was just annoyed with Jimmy that he had left Bobby and that he's to blame right now. But it's just an inconvenience at this point. But after a couple of minutes when they can't get Bobby to yell back where he is, they start to realize they might have a problem here.
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And so Edna becomes more panicked and she's yelling at the top of her lungs for her son. She's having her other two sons go look down by the water, go look over there. But there's no trace of him. And they can't believe it. It didn't make any sense because, I mean, he's four. He's got no shoes on. They didn't hear anything. How could he be gone? But he was gone.
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And so finally, after a couple of minutes, Edna rounded up her other two boys and they ran all the way back to the campsite where they got Mr. Panknin and they hailed the police. And very quickly, a big search was launched up on that logging road. As soon as the police arrived, the first thing they did is they pressed Edna and the other two boys about what did you hear?
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You know, you had to have heard something. He was only 10 feet away from you, and he was within earshot of you, certainly. You know, what did you hear? Did a vehicle come through? Did you hear an animal? Did you hear anybody talking? And Edna and the other two boys, they swore that they heard nothing, that they're just as baffled by it as anybody else.
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And so the police really didn't have a good starting point of where Bobby could have gone. And in that area, there wasn't any, you know, steep drop-offs or obvious places that Bobby could have fallen into or gotten trapped. The water for the waterfall, it's not deep. It's this little tiny brook. You know, it'd be difficult to drown in that little brook.
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So they just basically started fanning out in all directions, hoping they would, you know, find a piece of clothing or some other clue that would indicate where he went. After three days of searching that yielded nothing, they finally brought in a bloodhound to try to find him based on scent.
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And the third and final story you'll hear is called Mine is Mine, and it's about a rugged old man who heads into the wilderness to try to do something that many people before him have died trying to do.
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And so they had the dog smell one of Bobby's shoes, and the dog immediately seemed to key in on his scent in the area where Bobby had gone missing. And the dog turns and starts running up the logging road away from the campsite, so farther into the forest, and it runs for almost two miles. And it never seems to waver. It's clearly picked up Bobby's scent.
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And it stops at this fork in the road about two miles away from where Bobby had gone missing. And it keys in on this one area right at the fork where there wasn't anything significant. It was just this bare patch of dirt. And so the police, they uncover the dirt a little bit. There's nothing there. They're looking around the area that there's no indication that Bobby was ever here.
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So they give the scent back to the dog. And again, the dog just keeps tracking to this one section in this fork in the road. But they didn't know what to do with that information because there was nothing there. The search for Bobby was called off after seven days because they could not find anything.
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And so the lead investigator came out and did this press release where he basically said, we have no idea what happened to Bobby. However, we do think he was abducted. And his reasoning for this was pretty straightforward. Bobby was a young kid that had no shoes on in an unfamiliar forest and he he was only out of eyesight for two minutes. So how far could he really have gotten?
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Certainly not far enough that his family wouldn't have found him after those two minutes were up and they began looking for him. And so if you go down the abduction rabbit hole, you start with, okay, a person must have taken Bobby.
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But for a person to take Bobby, that means a person had to be in this area that was super isolated and remote and they hadn't seen anybody in the area and there were very few campers at the campsite.
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So realistically, if a person was gonna abduct Bobby, they had to have been planning it and had to have been hiding in the trees and were stalking this family until they got to that spot where Jimmy left Bobby and then this person runs out of the tree line, runs over to Bobby,
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But before we get into today's stories, if you're a fan of the Strange, Dark and Mysterious delivered in story format, then you've come to the right podcast because that's all we do and we upload twice a week, once on Monday and once on Thursday.
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picks him up without Bobby making a sound, he muffles him, and he runs away into the woods carrying this child all in a two-minute window, which was a totally abrupt window. It wasn't like this obvious thing that Bobby was going to be left alone. It looked like Jimmy was going to be sitting there with him, which would have been a deterrent, you would think, if someone was trying to abduct Bobby.
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But nonetheless, this window presents itself and this person runs down and takes Bobby. It just seems like that person would need to be really fixated on Bobby, one, and there wasn't a clear reason for why anyone would be very fixated on Bobby or this family. And two, they would need to be very strong and quick and agile, more than the average person.
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So we're talking like a professional athlete level of agility and physical fitness. And so while it's certainly possible that a professional athlete had been stalking this family and then ran down in this tiny little window of time and stole Bobby away without getting detected and then evaded the law for seven days in the middle of the woods, while that's possible, it's pretty unlikely.
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And investigators reached this conclusion. They thought, you know, it does seem pretty unlikely that a person did this. So they moved on to animals and they said, OK, maybe a bear took Bobby. And so they brought out bear sniffing dogs to search the area for signs that a bear had been there and there hadn't been. And so they said, OK, maybe a cougar had been there.
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And so they brought out a cougar expert who looked around the area and there's no signs of a cougar in the area. Plus, there was no blood anywhere around the area where Bobby had been taken. There was no drag marks where if a predator were to grab you, they would need to drag you away. There was no drag marks. So it seemed like, OK, the large predator theory also has problems with it.
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And so the next theory offered up was, well, maybe a giant eagle swooped down and picked Bobby up and flew him away, which would account for why maybe it was quiet and there was no drag marks, there was no blood and why he's just gone. But that was when authorities said, OK, we clearly have no clue. And so that's why they gave the press release and basically said, we just we just don't know.
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So if that's of interest to you, please sneak into the Amazon Music Follow Buttons house and replace all of their baby carrots with regular sized carrots. Okay, let's get into our first story called Not Human. On August 2nd, 1963, four-year-old Bobby Panknin, along with his two older brothers and his two parents, headed off to a camping resort on Deep Lake in Washington State.
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And so while we probably will never know what happened to Bobby, it does seem likely that something took him. And whatever that something was, it was intelligent, it was fast, it was strong, it was agile, and it had been watching that family.
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Because as soon as that two-minute window presented itself, where Jimmy was gone and Bobby was vulnerable, it swept in so fast that no one heard it, no one saw it, and it took Bobby somewhere and did something to him. And whatever it did, it probably wasn't good. If you're listening to this podcast, then chances are good you are a fan of The Strange, Dark, and Mysterious.
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And if that's the case, then I've got some good news. We just launched a brand new Strange, Dark, and Mysterious podcast called Mr. Ballin's Medical Mysteries. And as the name suggests, it's a show about medical mysteries. a genre that many fans have been asking us to dive into for years, and we finally decided to take the plunge, and the show is awesome.
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In this free weekly show, we explore bizarre unheard of diseases, strange medical mishaps, unexplainable deaths, and everything in between. Each story is totally true and totally terrifying. Go follow Mr. Ballin's Medical Mysteries wherever you get your podcasts, and if you're a Prime member, you can listen early and ad-free on Amazon Music. Hey listeners, big news for true crime lovers.
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In 2014, Kenny Veach was an avid long distance hiker that spent lots of his time hiking around the Mojave Desert in search of caves and abandoned mine shafts to go check out. Sometimes he'd bring his girlfriend with him, but most of the time he was on his own and he would stay out for a couple of days at a time.
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Kenny was constantly on YouTube watching hiking videos and anything to do with the Mojave Desert. And Kenny was a regular commenter on all of those types of videos.
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In June of 2014, Kenny must have watched this video called Son of an Area 51 Technician because he had left this comment where he was telling the community that had watched this video that he had had a very strange thing happen to him when he was out hiking near Area 51.
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For those that don't know what Area 51 is, it's a highly confidential United States Air Force installation that is frequently looped into alien conspiracy theories. Kenny goes on to describe this strange event.
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And he said he found this cave entrance on the side of this mountain that was shaped like an uppercase M. As Kenny walks up to enter this M-shaped cave, he said his body started to vibrate and it stopped him in his tracks. And he said he didn't know what it was, but as he walked closer and closer, his body just continued to vibrate to the point where he said he just had to turn around and leave.
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That he knew something was wrong with this cave and he could not go inside. And so he said he turned around and he left. His comment got a lot of traction on this video and a lot of people jumped on and were like, well, I don't really believe you, one. But if that is true, you've got to go back. You've got to go back there and explore it. You've got to document this.
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Whatever this is, we want to know what it is. They were basically egging him on to go back and check it out. Kenny responded to his critics and said, I'm telling you the truth. I know what I saw. This cave was different. I go out in the desert all the time looking for caves and I go in them. That's what I do. This one was different and that's why I didn't go in it.
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But people just kept egging him on to go back and check it out and to film it, show documentation of this thing. And so finally he agrees. A couple months later, Kenny goes back out to the Mojave Desert with his camera, and he films himself looking for the M cave. But he can't find it, so the video's kind of a bust.
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He still uploads it to YouTube, and he tells everyone that he's gonna go back out again. He knows where it is, he's fairly confident that he can get to it again, but he just needs to go out a third time to go look for it. Over the course of the next month, in the comment section of that video, people are encouraging Kenny and saying, go out there, go find it, we're so excited.
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One commenter was not so encouraging. Their name was Lemmy Kilmeister, and they wrote on his video, do not go to M Cave. If you go in, you won't be able to get out again. Kenny wrote back, what do you mean? And Lemmy Kilmeister didn't respond and subsequently vanished from YouTube. Kenny brushes this off, and on November 10th, 2014, he heads back out once again to try to find M. Cave.
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And then right as he's about to turn the corner towards his actual dorm room, someone down the hall behind him yells out, hey, Eddie, what's going on, man? And Bobby knew whoever it was was yelling at him. Because this whole situation had been so weird, he felt like this had to be a case of mistaken identity.
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And so Bobby turned around and he saw at the other end of the hall another student who he didn't know clearly waving at him and yelling out, hey, Eddie, come here. What's going on, man? And so Bobby walks up to him and says, hey, I'm not Eddie. I don't know what's going on, but everybody thinks I'm somebody that I'm not. But I'm not Eddie. Who's Eddie?
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And the guy said, yeah, OK, Eddie, it's good to have you back here, man. And then walked off. And so Bobby's like, what is going on here? And so Bobby turns and he goes back up to his dorm room and he goes inside and he shuts the door. And he's thinking, I just want to be left alone for a second because this is just this is not right.
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This is not how a freshman who doesn't know anyone gets welcomed at any school or any place in the world. This is totally unusual. And just a couple of minutes after being inside of his dorm room, he hears a knock on the door. And Bobby's like, oh, great. Who is it now? Who is it that thinks I'm someone I'm not?
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So he opens the door and there's another student who he doesn't know who's standing there. And this guy, his face just drains of color and he starts shaking when he sees Bobby. And they're both looking at each other like, what's going on here? And the student says to Bobby, were you adopted? And Bobby said, yeah. And then the student said, is your birthday July 12th? And Bobby said, yeah.
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And so the student goes, okay, my name is Michael and I am best friends with a guy named Eddie Galland and you are his clone. You have got to be his identical twin. At this point, to Bobby, this almost made sense, but it was so crazy to imagine having some identical twin he didn't know about. And so Bobby asked Michael if he could go meet Eddie, because he's got to be a student here.
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And Michael said, well, actually, Eddie decided not to come back to school this year, which is probably why everyone you talked to was so excited to see you, because they love Eddie, and they thought you were him, and so they're psyched to have you back.
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After talking for a couple of minutes, Michael tells Bobby that they have to go call Eddie and they have to set up a meeting so that Bobby can meet Eddie and vice versa. And so Michael and Bobby run outside to a payphone booth. They hop inside, they're crammed in there and they dial up Eddie.
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And as soon as Eddie answers, Bobby grabs the phone and just says, hey, Eddie, my name's Bobby and everybody thinks I'm you. And then Eddie says, yeah, I've been getting a lot of calls about that, too. And Bobby would later say that when he first heard Eddie's voice, he said it sounded like his own voice coming through the phone.
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And so ultimately, Eddie invited Bobby and Michael to come to his house so that Eddie and Bobby could see if it really was true that they were twins. And so Michael and Bobby hopped in Bobby's car and they sped two hours to Eddie's house. And when they got there, it was the middle of the night. And Eddie's house is the only house in this quiet suburb that has all the lights on.
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And so Michael and Bobby walk up the path towards the front door of Eddie's house. And right as Bobby is about to knock on the door, it flies open and standing in front of Bobby is his exact clone. It's Eddie. And Eddie's looking back at Bobby and he can't believe what he's looking at. They are definitely identical twins and they both immediately saw that.
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Michael would say after Bobby and Eddie just stared at each other for about a minute, they just started laughing. It was like they were total strangers, but at the same time, they had this connection immediately. They knew they were related and they were laughing and they hugged and they just stared at each other.
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And Michael said anytime Bobby would tilt his head, Eddie would mimic it and vice versa. It was like they were looking into a mirror. Shortly after, this story of these two long-lost brothers reconnecting found its way to Newsday, which was a prominent local newspaper in New York, and they decided they would look into it to see if it was really true or not.
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And so one of the editors had a junior reporter fly out and actually see Bobby and Eddie face-to-face and see if it was really true that they were, in fact, identical twins. And as soon as this reporter saw them, they knew immediately that, yep, they're related.
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And so Newsday printed this totally heartwarming fairy tale story about these two long lost brothers reconnected after all these years, just because of a chance encounter in college and everybody loved it. But this is where the story went from amazing to truly unbelievable.
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Friends of another young man living in the New York area named David Kelman began telling David that he had to check out this Newsday article about these long-lost twins because these two twins look exactly like David. Specifically, they said, you gotta look at these guys' hands. They are just like yours, David.
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In 1974, Jean-Claude Romand enrolled in medical school in Lyon, France. He was a model student who excelled despite the notoriously brutal course load. In 1980, he married his girlfriend, and shortly after that, they had two kids, a boy and a girl. In 1983, he officially became a doctor and landed a great job as a researcher at the World Health Organization in Geneva.
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David was known for having these enormous hands, and a lot of the pictures of Bobby and Eddie in the news showed their hands, and they too were enormous. And so David finally picked up a newspaper and looked at a picture of Bobby and Eddie, and sure enough, he was shocked. They looked exactly like him.
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And then when he read the article, it showed their birthday was July 12th, the same as his, and they were born at the same hospital he was born at. And so he's thinking, these are too many coincidences. They have to be my brothers. And so David called Eddie's home phone number and Eddie's mother picked up and she asked who was calling. And David said, hi, my name is David Kelman.
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I was born July 12th, 1961. And I'm looking at a newspaper article of two identical twins that look just like me. And one of them is your son. I think I'm the missing third twin. After hearing this, Eddie's mom apparently dropped the phone and yelled out, They're coming out of the woodwork!
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So Eddie and Bobby went to David's house, and as soon as they walked in and saw David, they knew right away he was one of them. He was the third twin. And apparently, within minutes of meeting each other, they were wrestling and laughing hysterically on the ground. It was like even though they were strangers, they somehow already knew each other and had an instant connection.
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David's family members that witnessed this first interaction said it was the most incredible thing they had ever seen, that it was just so wonderful to see these long-lost siblings finally reconnected after all these years. Shortly after David realized he was the third missing twin, Newsday did another story talking about how there was actually three missing twins that had all been reconnected.
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And once again, it was just this incredible Cinderella story. And now this story went all over the world. They were on the cover of every magazine, every newspaper. They were on every talk show. And everybody had the same question. What similarities did they discover? And they would say, well, we all wrestled in junior high school and high school. We all smoke the same cigarettes.
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We like the same food. We have the same taste in women. And on talk shows, when they would answer these questions, it was immediately clear that they all shared the same mannerisms. And on the show, they would routinely interrupt each other and finish each other's sentences. It really was like they were the exact same person, despite having been raised completely separate from one another.
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The boys loved the attention they were getting. They had become international rock stars overnight, and all three of them were immediately so close. They were best friends right away. They moved into an apartment together. They went out partying. They met Madonna. It was just this incredible time in their lives.
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And so they weren't asking questions about why they had been separated in the first place. But their parents were asking a lot of questions because they had not been told by the adoption agency that the boy they were adopting actually had two identical siblings. They had no idea. So the boy's adoptive parents reached out to the adoption agency, which was Louise Wise Services.
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It's based in New York, very prestigious, basically the most powerful and wealthy people in New York use this adoption agency if they're going to adopt. And so the parents reached out to them and asked for a meeting so they could get some answers as to why their kids have been separated.
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And so the parents go to New York, they go into this meeting room with the top brass of Louise Wise Services, and they say, you know, did you separate our sons at birth on purpose? And one of the executives said, yes, we did, because it's really hard to place three children into one home. At which point David's adoptive father lashed out and said, that's absolute BS.
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If you had told me he had two identical siblings, I would have taken all three. But the agency stood by their decision and said, that's the only reason it happened. And so, sorry, that's all we can tell you. And so the parents were very frustrated and felt like there was much more to the story.
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And in fact, they felt like the agency was actually lying to them about why they had separated their sons in the first place. But they couldn't get any more information. So they left the agency. And right when they got outside, Bobby's father realized he had left his umbrella inside of the meeting room.
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And so he turned around, went back inside, walked down the hall quietly so he didn't want to disturb anyone.
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His focus was on finding new medicines to treat arteriosclerosis, also known as heart disease. His wife would proudly tell her friends that her husband was a super doctor who worked quietly in a neon-lit lab in Geneva to develop all these incredible treatments. From the outside looking in, Jean-Claude's life looked perfect. But looks can be deceiving.
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And he opened the door to the meeting room and he reached in to get his umbrella and he looked inside and he saw the people he had just met with from Louise Wise Services had just opened a bottle of champagne and they were laughing and smiling and they were clearly toasting each other on a job well done.
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And even though Bobby's father did not go in there and confront them about what they were celebrating, he got the sense that they were celebrating having dodged a bullet. That they clearly had just lied to the families of these three triplets and they'd gotten away with it.
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And so between the parents' general sense that the agency was clearly hiding something and then Bobby discovering this champagne toast as soon as they left, the parents decided they needed to get in touch with some lawyers to help them get to the bottom of why their sons had been separated. And so initially, a number of really prestigious law firms in New York were excited to take this case.
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But shortly after, they all contacted the families to say, well, actually, there's a conflict and we can't do it anymore. And the parents believed this was because the adoption agency, Louise Wise Services, and some of their more prominent and powerful clients were pressuring the lawyers not to dig into this, that clearly there was some secret that they did not want uncovered.
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And so unfortunately, the parents hit a dead end and didn't know where else to turn to try to get more information. And so over time, they kind of just accepted that this is just the way it is. And as for their sons, they didn't really care that much because the way they looked at it, at least they had each other now. And so over the years, the boys continued to stay really close.
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The audio from all three of these stories has been pulled from our main YouTube channel and has been remastered for today's episode. The links to the original YouTube videos are in the description. The first story you'll hear is called Doctor Who, and it's about a family's dark secret that is revealed in a fire.
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They started families of their own and had lots of family get togethers. It was just a really happy time in all of their lives. And at some point, the boys actually went into business together and opened their own restaurant in New York called Triplets. And the first year it was extremely successful, did over a million dollars in revenue.
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But in the second year, the brothers started to fight with each other about how to run the restaurant. And in many ways, this was their first major conflict. They hadn't grown up together. They had never really fought. And so now they're fighting over money and how to run the business. And it got really bad, really quick. And they just could not come to any sort of compromise.
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And so at some point, Bobby left the business. He said, I don't want to do this with you guys anymore. And apparently his departure just completely ruined the dynamic of the three brothers. Eddie was the most affected by this fracture in their relationships. All he wanted was for his brothers to be really close and for their families to spend time together. And now all of that was in jeopardy.
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And so Eddie started showing signs of severe depression and was ultimately hospitalized for three weeks. And then shortly after getting out of the hospital, he took his own life. This was beyond devastating for the two brothers and the rest of their family.
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Around this time, a journalist named Lawrence Wright, who had always had a fascination with identical twins, found an obscure scientific article called Psychoanalytic Study of the Child.
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It detailed a New York-based study about identical twins that were intentionally separated at birth and then given to different adoptive families to be studied, although it wasn't clear what they were actually studying or why they needed identical twins to do this research.
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In this article, Lawrence discovered all the babies that had been used in the study came from the same adoption agency, the same one the triplets had come from, the Louise Wise Services in New York. And so Lawrence called Bobby and told him that based on this article, it seems like he and his brothers were used in a scientific study. Bobby and David were totally furious.
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They felt like they'd been treated like lab rats. They also wondered if their being separated at birth had a negative impact on their mental health and that that might have contributed to Eddie's depression and untimely death.
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Lawrence wound up writing an article about this twin study he had discovered, and after he published it, another set of twins found out they had been a part of the study and discovered themselves. These two women were also struggling with depression, furthering the idea that the study could have led to irreparable harm to their subject's mental well-being.
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In the early morning hours of Monday, January 11th, 1993, Jean-Claude's best friend, Luc, received a call informing him there had been a terrible accident. In the night, a boiler had caught fire inside of Jean-Claude's house, killing his wife and his children. Jean-Claude had barely escaped alive, but when he got to the hospital, he had slipped into a coma.
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At this point, David and Robbie did not expect anybody to be held accountable for this study. Instead, they just hoped to find out why it was done, and what they were testing for, and what the results were. And so they began working with Lawrence to try to get those answers.
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They contacted Louise Wise Services, who did admit that yes, actually this was part of a study, but they didn't get any information about what the results were or why they did it. And so they did some digging and they discovered the guy in charge of the actual scientific study was this doctor named Peter Neubauer, who was this very well-known psychologist in New York.
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And so Lawrence managed to get an interview with this doctor, but the doctor basically said, I won't answer any of your questions and I won't give you any information about this study. And he never published his findings.
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Right before the doctor died in 2008, he made sure the entire study was put under seal inside of the Yale University archives so no one could access it until 2066, which has led many people to believe that the reason he set it so far out was to guarantee all of the subjects in this study would have died by the time it was made publicly available, protecting his own legacy and the people that were involved in this study.
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In the recent documentary called Three Identical Strangers, Dr. Neubauer's personal assistant, a woman by the name of Natasha Josefowicz, she was interviewed and they asked her, you know, can you shed any light on why the study was done, what they were testing for and what the results were? And she would say that she was not actually part of the study.
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She was more on the periphery, but she was privy to what they were doing. And she said the point of the study was to finally put to bed whether it was nature or nurture that made the person who they ultimately become. Basically, are your surroundings the thing that ultimately makes you who you become?
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Or is it just your genetic makeup that you're predestined to become a particular person independent of how you were raised? And she said the results were incredible, that basically it has nothing to do with nurture. It's all about your genetic makeup, that we unconsciously trend towards specific behaviors and decisions, but we believe it's free will.
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We believe we're choosing to do certain things, but in reality, it's basically predetermined. And specifically in the Triplett's case, Bobby was intentionally placed into a more affluent household where his father was a doctor and his mother was a lawyer. And so they were very well educated and that was his upbringing.
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Eddie was placed into a more middle-class family with his father being a teacher and his mom being a stay-at-home mother. And David was put into a low-income household where they were all immigrants, English was a second language, and they just have this very small shop that they owned.
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And Natasha said this study demonstrated that despite these boys being put into different socioeconomic levels, it had almost no impact on who they ultimately became. She said she doesn't know why the study wasn't published, but she hopes someday it will be.
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Also, in this documentary, a doctor named Lawrence Perlman, who was actually one of the researchers in the study that would actually make house visits to each of the boys' houses as they were growing up under the false pretext that they were there as part of routine follow-up for the adoption agency.
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And he went on record and said that the study was not just about the effects of socioeconomic class. It was really about the effects of different styles of parenting. He said in the triplets case, each of the boys have been placed into their respective households after that household had already adopted another child.
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And that first child they adopted effectively became the guinea pig for this study, where scientists would come in and they would study this child under the false pretext that they were there just following up for the adoption agency, but really they were creating a baseline of how do these parents parent.
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And then once that baseline was established, then the triplets were sent into their respective homes, with the researchers knowing full well how they were each going to be brought up, with the adoptive father being the X-factor. Bobby's father, who was a doctor, was rarely around, but he was devoted and loving to his son.
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The two men had been friends for nearly 20 years. They were both doctors, they both got married at almost the exact same time, their kids had grown up together, and now Jean-Claude's family had been completely destroyed. Later that day, when Luke arrived at the hospital to see his friend, he was met with two policemen standing outside of his room, barring anyone from going inside.
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David's father, who was the shop owner, was around all the time and adored his son and loved him unconditionally. Eddie's father was a teacher who was around a fair amount, but when he was, he was very strict and rough with Eddie and quick to discipline him and rarely showed any affection for him.
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And while Dr. Perlman does not come out and say that Eddie's relationship with his father probably had an effect on him becoming depressed and ultimately taking his life, there are many other people close to this case that believe that's exactly what it was. That David and Bobby had a stable, healthy upbringing and Eddie did not.
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And so when he was faced with the crisis of the brothers separating, Eddie couldn't handle it. These same people refute what Natasha said about the findings of the study that were all genetically predisposed to become a particular person. They say if that was the case, then why haven't David and Bobby taken their lives?
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But ultimately, because the study was never published, we won't know for sure why it was done, what they studied, and what the conclusions were. All we have is speculation and second- and third-hand information. But what we do know for sure is these surviving triplets and their families are furious that this study was done. They feel like it ruined their lives.
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Following the release of the documentary Three Identical Strangers, Bobby and David were actually granted early access to the study that was sealed inside of Yale University.
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And when they looked at it, they were expecting to be blown away with the results, but it turned out it was over 10,000 pages of very technical information and much of it was heavily redacted so they couldn't even read most of it. They were not able to deduce what the purpose of the study was in the first place or what it accomplished. It was just all very ambiguous.
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This study was ultimately shut down permanently in 1980, the same year the triplets discovered themselves. As for the adoption agency, Louise Wise Services, and all the scientists and researchers involved in the study, none of them were held accountable for their role in this totally unethical study, and so basically everything was swept under the rug.
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And so Bobby, David, and all of the family members of the triplets were just left with a whole bunch of questions and not a lot of answers. A quick note about our stories, they are all based on true events, but we sometimes use pseudonyms to protect the people involved and some details are fictionalized for dramatic purposes. to find all of these shows.
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And when they realized Luke was his best friend, the policemen said, hey, can we actually pull you aside and talk to you about Jean-Claude? And so Luke was confused, but he walked over and sat at a table with the two officers, and they proceeded to tell him that the fire that had killed Jean-Claude's family had not been an accident, and Jean-Claude was not a doctor.
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Jean-Claude had enrolled in medical school in Lyon back in the 1970s, but he failed to show up for his first year exam. And without passing that exam, you can't advance in medical school. And so the school allowed him to retake the year. And so Jean-Claude did that for 12 consecutive years. All the while, he told his friends and family that he was following normal medical studies.
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And eventually he told them he had become a doctor. Instead of going to Geneva to discover new medicines for heart disease, Jean-Claude would drive around the border area between France and Switzerland and periodically go to the World Health Organization's Public Information Center and would just walk around the lobby and read pamphlets before going home again.
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When Jean-Claude went on overseas business trips, he would actually just leave his house, hop on the highway, and stop at a motel, stay there for a couple of days, and then return with gifts. He lived off money from the sale of his student apartment in Lyon that his parents had bought for him.
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When the money ran out, he asked his friends and family to give him their life savings so he could invest them into these schemes that he knew about because he was a UN employee. And because he's this very successful, reputable doctor, people agreed and gave him their money. But by late 1992, some of his victims were asking for their money, and he didn't have it.
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And so some of these people began doing some research on Jean-Claude, and they found his name was not listed on the World Health Organization's staff list. By January of 1993, Jean-Claude knew it was only a matter of time before he was exposed. And to this point, he has been living this lie for almost 20 years.
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The second story you'll hear is called Drunk, and it's about a woman with a condition so rare it was documented in scientific journals. And the third and final story you'll hear is called Identical Strangers, and it's about a chance encounter that reconnects two long-lost relatives. But that's only the beginning of this insane story.
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His wife, his kids, his friends, his parents, everybody, he has told that he's the successful doctor, and that's all about to come crashing down. And the way he handles it is he drives to his parents' house and he kills his parents and their dog and then drives back to his house and kills his family, takes sleeping pills and then lights the house on fire.
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But firefighters were able to get to him and pull him out before he could take his own life. And so after he regained his strength, he was taken into custody and he made a confession. He was convicted of murder in 1996 and given a life sentence, but in 2015 he became eligible for parole and in 2019 he was released. Our next story is called Drunk.
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In October of 2014, a 35-year-old woman who we'll call Olivia met her husband for lunch at a restaurant in Western New York. The couple had not originally planned to stay at this restaurant for very long, but one thing led to another, they were having a nice time, and before long, it was 6 p.m., and they had been there for six hours.
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And over those six hours, both of them had had a lot to eat, lots of bread and pasta and cakes and all sorts of stuff. And they had had some alcohol, but not very much. Olivia had been careful to only have four drinks over those six hours because she wanted to be able to drive. And her husband similarly limited his drinking so he'd be safe to drive.
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And so after they got the check and they paid for their meal, they both hopped in their respective cars and they began driving home. As Olivia was making her way home, she unfortunately got a flat tire and so she pulled off to the side of the road and she called roadside assistance.
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As she was waiting for help to show up, another motorist happened to drive by and they misunderstood what was happening. They saw Olivia standing outside of her car with the tire popped off and they thought she'd been in an accident. And so they called the police and reported it. And so the police show up a few minutes later, they pull up right behind Olivia.
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And when they get out, they ask her, you know, are you okay? Do you need any help? And she would say, oh no, I just had a flat tire. I'm totally fine. You know, thank you for stopping though. But the police, as they're listening to her speak, they see her eyes look kind of glassy and glazed over like she's drunk. And as she was speaking, they could have sworn she was slurring her words.
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And so they said, hey, ma'am, have you been drinking tonight? And she would tell them that, well, yeah, I have had a few drinks, but only four over the last six hours. And I don't feel drunk at all. That has nothing to do with the situation I'm in now. I'm not drunk.
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but the police were not buying it and so they put her through a series of field sobriety tests that she managed to get through but she struggled with enough that it sent up some red flags and so they made her blow into a breathalyzer a breathalyzer is a device that uses your breath to register how much alcohol is in your system also known as your blood alcohol content or bac for short
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But before we get into today's stories, if you're a fan of the Strange, Dark, and Mysterious delivered in story format, then you've come to the right podcast because that's all we do and we upload twice a week, once on Monday and once on Thursday.
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BAC is scored as a percentage out of 100. And while no one should ever get behind the wheel of a vehicle if they are impaired, it is the case that in America you are allowed legally to operate a vehicle if your BAC is 0.08% or lower. For reference, if a 160 pound female consumed about three alcoholic drinks, maybe a little bit more in the course of an hour, she would most likely have a 0.08% BAC.
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If that same 160-pound female were to consume, let's say, eight alcoholic drinks over the course of an hour, she would definitely not be allowed to legally operate a vehicle because she would be very, very drunk. Her BAC would have spiked to 0.2%, which would put her in the range where she would most likely have alcohol poisoning and eventually she would most likely lose consciousness.
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If this same 160-pound female were to consume 13 alcoholic drinks over the course of an hour, her BAC would jump all the way up to 0.4%, where she's not just drunk and unable to operate a vehicle. At that level, you're talking about potentially dying from consuming that much alcohol.
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When Olivia blew into this breathalyzer, she fully expected that she would be below the 0.08% legal limit, because after all, she'd only had four alcoholic drinks over a six-hour period, and so that would put her well below that legal limit. But that was not the case. She blew a staggering 0.33%.
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The cops couldn't believe what they were looking at because they're looking at Olivia and they're thinking at that level, she should be somewhere between losing consciousness and dying. But here she is just standing there talking to us, acting a little bit buzzed. And so they assumed their breathalyzer must have made a mistake.
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So they went back into their car, got another breathalyzer, did it again. And again, Olivia blew a 0.33% BAC. The officers couldn't understand how this woman had such an extreme alcohol tolerance, but regardless, they charged her with driving while intoxicated and then brought her to the hospital for medical intervention.
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There, her BAC remained high even after a full day had passed without her consuming any more alcohol. This is around the time that it was discovered that Olivia had a very, very rare medical condition called auto-brewery syndrome, which in a nutshell meant her body transformed glucose from foods, specifically carbs like bread, pasta, that kind of thing, into alcohol.
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Olivia, who was totally unaware of this condition, had developed this wicked alcohol tolerance because she was basically drunk all the time. Not because she was a heavy drinker, but because she ate carbs. This condition, if left untreated, can do the same damage alcoholism and binge drinking can do to the body. The only way you can treat it is by drastically changing your diet.
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When Olivia's condition was discovered and made public, the charges against her were dropped and she would go on to just stop eating carbs altogether.
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a genre that many fans have been asking us to dive into for years, and we finally decided to take the plunge, and the show is awesome. In this free weekly show, we explore bizarre unheard of diseases, strange medical mishaps, unexplainable deaths, and everything in between. Each story is totally true and totally terrifying.
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In 1980, Bobby Schaffran was on his way up to Sullivan County Community College, which is two hours outside of New York City, to begin his freshman year. Even though he was from the area, he didn't know anybody that was going to this particular school, and so he was pretty nervous about it. Plus, he wasn't that popular in high school, and he had a hard time making friends.
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When he pulled into a parking spot at the school, he saw a sea of people getting out of their parents' cars and carrying boxes up to their dorm rooms. And so he took a deep breath, hopped out of his car, grabbed his backpack, and began walking across the lawn towards the dorm building.
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On his walk over, Bobby was surprised when he felt like all these random strangers on the lawn were looking at him like they knew him. And a couple people yelled out to him and said, hey, it's good to have you back here. And one girl actually ran up to him and kissed him on the cheek and said, oh my gosh, I'm so happy you're back. And Bobby said, I think you got the wrong person. I don't know you.
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And she laughed and she just ran away. And so Bobby's totally bewildered by this because he doesn't know anybody, but everybody seems to know him. And so he walks up the steps and he goes inside the dorm building. And as he's walking down the hall, people are high-fiving him and patting him on the back.
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When he arrived there, he met a lonely, wealthy widow named Elizabeth Frothingham, and he promptly married her, becoming rich overnight. After moving into her mansion and dubbing himself Lord Timothy Dexter, he suddenly felt lost. He had spent his entire life pursuing wealth, and now that he suddenly had it, he didn't know what to do with it.
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And so he looked around Newburyport at the other rich people and saw what they were doing, and he found that many of them held political positions. And so Timothy decided he would run for office too. But unfortunately, the voters caught on to the fact that he was a second grade dropout who couldn't read or write or think critically, so he didn't win the election.
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But instead of accepting his defeat, Timothy began petitioning the town to let him have his political office anyways. The town said no, that's not how democracy works, but Timothy didn't really understand and he just continued to send these carefully outlined petitions explaining exactly why they needed to appoint him.
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In the spring of 2021, 52-year-old Texas resident Karen Davis got married, and then after the ceremony and after the honeymoon, she went through the process of changing her last name from Davis to McBride to match her husband's last name. After the change was done, the last step was to get a new driver's license with the new name on it.
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The town had to bring in experts that were able to decipher what he wrote because Timothy was deeply illiterate and his petitions were so riddled with spelling mistakes and were so confusing that at first glance it looked like it was written in a foreign language. After they deciphered them, they would immediately deny them, but Timothy just continued to send them.
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And so finally the town got so fed up with all of his petitions that they decided they would just give him a fake political title just to get him to stop and to low-key humiliate him. They offered him the title of the Informer of Deer, and they told him his job was to look high and low all over Newburyport for any signs of deer activity. And the joke was, in Newburyport, there are no deer.
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But Timothy did not find this humiliating. He did not see the joke in it. He took it very seriously and believed his petitions had worked. And so he took his political title and with great enthusiasm, he got to work, spending all hours running all around the town, carefully documenting all deer activity, of which there was none.
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At the end of his term, Timothy felt like he had accomplished a lot as the Informer of Deer and was ready to move on from political office. And so he turned in his official Informer of Deer logbook to the town and told them they should pass it along to the next Informer of Deer to get them up to speed.
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Unfortunately, when the town opened that logbook, they found it contained only crude pictures of deer and then illiterate ramblings about deer that were so difficult to decipher that even the experts weren't able to do it. And so the logbook was thrown away and the informer of deer position was never filled again. Hey listeners, big news for true crime lovers.
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And if that's the case, then I've got some good news. We just launched a brand new Strange, Dark, and Mysterious podcast called Mr. Ballin's Medical Mysteries. And as the name suggests, it's a show about medical mysteries. a genre that many fans have been asking us to dive into for years, and we finally decided to take the plunge, and the show is awesome.
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Shortly after the American Revolutionary War broke out between the colonies in America and Great Britain, America began printing their own money to pay for their troops. But this money, called the continental dollar, it wasn't backed by silver or gold. It was just backed on the promise of future value if America won the war.
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So Karen emailed the local DMV or Department of Motor Vehicles to set up a time for her to come in and make the change to her license. But after she sent that email, the local DMV immediately emailed Karen back and they told her that they could not help her with this request until she resolved an issue. Now, they didn't specify what this issue was.
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That, combined with overprinting this money, led to rampant inflation and very quickly the continental dollar was worthless. Some of the wealthy folk in Newburyport decided they would do the troops a favor who were now destitute because they held all of this worthless currency.
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And these wealthy people offered to buy all of their continental currency for a fraction of the price, which was better than nothing. When Timothy saw all these rich people doing that, he quickly jumped on the trend. But he didn't view this as doing a favor for these troops that needed the money. He viewed this as a great investment opportunity.
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He believed America was going to win this war and that eventually this currency was going to have lots of value. And so he invested all of his savings into buying back the continental dollar. when word spread that Timothy had made this terrible investment, because at the time, nobody was predicting this currency would have any worth, really, even if America won the war.
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When they found out that Timothy had made this ridiculous investment, his peers, the other wealthy folk in Newburyport, they were thrilled. They were so annoyed by Timothy, and they didn't like the fact that he was kind of on their level because he had some money, and so they were excited to see him go bankrupt.
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But sure enough, at the end of the American Revolution, when America won the war, Congress made good and backed the currency, making Timothy one of the richest people in America overnight. Right away, Timothy used his second big windfall of cash to purchase the most luxurious mansion in the richest neighborhood in all of Newburyport.
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But beyond that purchase, he didn't really know what to do with all of this money. It was very overwhelming. And so after several weeks of deep introspection where he tried to figure out, you know, who he was now and what he wanted to be, it suddenly became clear to him. He needed to construct 40 wooden statues of random famous men on his front lawn.
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These statues included George Washington, Napoleon Bonaparte, Thomas Jefferson, and of course himself. The inscription under his statue read, After a sculptor was done, Timothy went out to inspect all 40 statues, and he discovered what he believed to be a huge discrepancy on one of them.
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Underneath Thomas Jefferson's replica, it said the author of the Declaration of Independence, which is accurate. But he told the sculptor that he was supposed to put down the author of the Constitution. And the sculptor very gently said, that's not right. It should be the Declaration of Independence. Timothy became irate. He was not having it.
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And so he ran into his mansion and came out with his oversized hunting rifle and began firing at the sculptor's feet until he made the change. After Jefferson's title was fixed, Timothy noticed another discrepancy on another statue. He walked over to the George Washington replica and looked underneath it at the inscription which said George Washington.
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And Timothy just shook his head, got out a paintbrush, covered it up, and wrote one word, Pitt. Just Pitt. Because periodically, Timothy would confuse George Washington's name with Pitt, and nobody could convince him otherwise. By now, the other wealthy folk in Newburyport had really grown to resent Timothy.
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And now he was just showing off his wealth with his totally ridiculous mansion and all of his statues. And so some of these aristocrats wanted to find a way to just ruin Timothy. And so knowing he was not a very bright man, they decided they would start giving him deliberately terrible investment tips. The first being that he should buy a whole bunch of warming pans and send them to the Caribbean.
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However, they very cryptically said it had something to do with the state of Oklahoma. And then at the bottom of the email, there was just a phone number they told her she needed to call in order to resolve this issue. And so Karen's thinking, okay, that's pretty weird, but I did used to live in Oklahoma, so that probably has something to do with it.
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A warming pan is like this big frying pan that you load up with hot coals and you slide under your bed to stay warm at night. This works really well in a cold environment like Newburyport, but is completely worthless in a warm tropical environment like the Caribbean. But Timothy believed he was being given some great insider trading information and absolutely took this to the bank.
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And he went and bought two ships and he loaded them up with 40,000 of these huge warming pans and he fired them off to the Caribbean. And when they got there, the locals didn't know what they were or what they were for, but they found these warming pans served as great ladles for molasses. And they all sold out for a huge profit.
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And so Timothy went to those aristocrats and he thanked them for their incredible investment tip. These rich people were furious that their plan had backfired, and so they decided they would pitch him another even worse investment tip that was bound to ruin him. They told him, why don't you buy up a whole bunch of coal and send it to Newcastle, England?
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Newcastle being the coal capital of the world, where there was so much coal there, there was actually an expression at the time, that's like sending coal to Newcastle, which meant you're doing something completely pointless. But these fine rich folks had never done Timothy wrong and so he took their advice and once again took it to the bank.
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He loaded up his ships with coal and he sent him off to Newcastle. And this would have ruined him had it not been for the coal workers strike that occurred right before his shipment arrived. And so when Timothy's coal arrived on the shores of Newcastle, there was a coal shortage and all of his coal sold out for another huge profit.
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And so once again, Timothy went back to the aristocrats and said, thank you for the incredible advice. Now truly irate that their plan has backfired two times, these aristocrats got together and said, okay, we got to set him up for something that's going to make him fail. And so they pitched him one more terrible investment tip.
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This was, hey, Timothy, why don't you go buy all the whale bone you possibly can? Just hoard it, keep it in your house, because someday it's going to get really valuable. At the time, whale bone was extremely expensive and losing its value every single day. But again, Timothy thinks these people have never done me wrong. I'm going to do just that.
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And so he went out and he collected thousands of pounds of these rotting whale bones and made a huge stockpile in his basement. And shortly after he had built up this mountain of bone, over in France, it became fashionable for men to wear corsets. And wouldn't you know it, these corsets were made out of whale bone. And so once again, Timothy's investment completely paid off.
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The audio from all three of these stories has been pulled from our main YouTube channel and has been remastered for today's episode. The links to the original YouTube videos are in the description. The first story you'll hear is called The Oklahoma Problem, and it's about a woman who discovers something buried in her past.
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And so he tipped his hat for a third time to these rich folks that just keep making him more and more money. After these three big investment wins, Timothy was very confident and he viewed himself as a shrewd investor. And so he began to believe that he could identify winning investments himself.
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And so not thinking much of it, she punched this number the DMV had given her into her phone, and then she let it ring. A few moments later, much to Karen's shock, a woman from the Norman, Oklahoma district attorney's office picked up the phone and said, how can I help you?
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And so the first winning investment that he identified was to purchase all these stray cats in Newburyport that were lined up for euthanization. Timothy figured these mangy, sick, feral animals would make great house pets in the Caribbean. And so he loaded them all onto his two ships, he fired them across the sea, and wouldn't you know it, they sold like hotcakes.
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Not because they were cute and cuddly, but because, unbeknownst to Timothy, the Caribbean had a huge rat infestation problem in their warehouses, and so his shipment of stray cats arrived at the perfect time. At some point after all these successful investments, Timothy started to wonder about his legacy. How would people remember him after he was gone? And so there was only one way to find out.
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Timothy very elaborately faked his own death. And as he hid watching his funeral, he noticed his wife, Elizabeth, wasn't as sad as he thought she should be over the death of her husband. And so he leapt out in front of the thousands of people that were there and he began beating his wife with his cane.
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After this, Timothy decided he didn't really like his wife anymore, and so he decided he would just tell people she was dead, even though she was not dead. And so when people came to Timothy's mansion and they saw his wife walking around, clearly alive, Timothy would tell them, oh, she's a ghost.
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And because at this point Timothy was so wealthy and so influential, people just kind of accepted this and began viewing Elizabeth as a ghost. Before Timothy's actual death, he penned an autobiography called A Pickle for the Knowing Ones, a title that, to this day, people still don't really understand.
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Inside the book were 24 pages of completely illiterate ramblings with absolutely zero punctuation. The book was so terrible that it actually sold out very quickly because people thought it was funny to buy this book.
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After people criticized Timothy for not using any punctuation, Timothy printed a second edition where at the very end, he included a single page with 13 lines of just random punctuation marks with a note at the bottom that said, go ahead and sprinkle these in as you see fit.
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In 1806, just a few years after publishing his book, Lord Timothy Dexter, the Informer of Deer, quietly passed away, this time for real. A quick note about our stories, they are all based on true events, but we sometimes use pseudonyms to protect the people involved and some details are fictionalized for dramatic purposes. Thank you for listening to the Mr. Ballin Podcast.
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Karen immediately assumed that the DMV must have made a mistake, that maybe they were trying to give Karen some other number in Oklahoma, because this was an Oklahoma problem, and they had mistakenly given her the number to the DA's office. But since she had this woman on the phone, Karen told her, you know, hey, I was just trying to get a new license in Texas.
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They told me there was some sort of issue. It had to do with me potentially living in Oklahoma. I don't know what it is, but this is the number they gave me. So I'm sure it's a mistake, but that's why I'm calling. The woman from the DA's office had no idea who Karen was, but after taking down Karen's information and looking on her computer, she discovered Karen's so-called Oklahoma problem.
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And after she explained to Karen what this enormous problem was, Karen literally couldn't believe it. But after this woman went over the details a few more times and really showed Karen that this Oklahoma problem was very, very real, suddenly everything in Karen's life made sense.
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For the last 22 years, Karen, who was incredibly smart and friendly and polite and never had a problem with anyone, had an incredibly hard time getting a job. Even jobs that she was extremely qualified for, she would get turned down for for someone who was way less qualified. And then in the rare times that Karen did actually get hired, she would always get fired for no reason.
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And so Karen never understood why she was being treated this way until now. It would turn out 22 years earlier, which is when Karen's hireability issues began, she lived in Norman, Oklahoma, which is where the DA's office was that she would end up calling 22 years later. And when she was living in Norman, she lived with a roommate.
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And this roommate was this nice young man who had a couple of young kids. And one weekend, he went to the local movie store called Movie Place, and he rented the hit 90s movie, Sabrina the Teenage Witch, to watch with his kids. And after he was done watching this movie, he didn't return the VHS tape of Sabrina the Teenage Witch back to Movie Place.
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Now, normally when this happened, the movie store would just hit the cardholder with lots of late fees, which was actually great for the movie store. They made lots and lots of money on individual people that just forgot to return their movies.
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The second story you'll hear is called The Dark Room, and it's about a man who wakes up in total darkness with no memory of where he is, but then realizes his nightmare is only just beginning. And the third and final story you'll hear is called Timothy Dexter, and it's quite possibly the most absurd rags-to-riches story ever.
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And if the cardholder just continued to hold on to this delinquent movie, at some point the movie store would just hit them with a final fee that basically accounted for the total cost of the VHS tape that they had effectively stolen. And then at that point, the matter was resolved. The cardholder owned the VHS tape, whether they knew it or not, and the movie store simply moved on.
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But in this case, Movie Place in Norman, Oklahoma, didn't think that was enough. And when Sabrina the Teenage Witch was not returned in a timely fashion, they pressed charges against the cardholder. And the cardholder was Karen Davis. The roommate had just borrowed her card. And somehow these charges against Karen were never brought up to Karen. She was never contacted by anyone.
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And so for 22 years, she was technically a wanted felon. Meaning every time one of her employers, either during the interview process or after she was hired, when they would run a criminal background check on her, it would pop up she was wanted for felony embezzlement. And so this was the reason she kept not getting jobs and kept getting fired from jobs.
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Since discovering these charges, Karen worked with the Norman, Oklahoma DA's office and got these charges dismissed. Our next story is called The Dark Room. Carlos Camejo woke up freezing cold and totally confused.
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It was September 6th, 2007, and all Carlos could remember was being on his motorcycle with the hot sun bearing down on him as he wound his way on his bike through the streets of La Victoria, which is a city in Venezuela. Carlos tried to open his eyes, but he couldn't, and then when he tried to move his body, he couldn't do that either.
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And so he began to panic because he's paralyzed, but he told himself to calm down. If he couldn't move, at least he could think. He could try to process, you know, what's going on here. There has to be an explanation for it. And so Carlos, in total darkness and immobile, began going through over and over again this whole motorcycle trip, which was his last memory.
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And he remembered that his friend had called him up and asked him to go out on this ride. Carlos used to go out all the time on his bike for fun with his friends and by himself, but now that he was 33 years old and married, he didn't have the time for it as much. But the weather had been so beautiful that when his friend had called and asked to go out, Carlos said, let's do it.
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And so Carlos began going over in his head the route that they had taken through La Victoria and all he could remember was this long straightaway and then a right turn and then nothing. It was like after he made that turn, everything went blank.
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But before we get into today's stories, if you're a fan of the Strange, Dark, and Mysterious delivered in story format, then you've come to the right podcast because that's all we do and we upload twice a week, once on Monday and once on Thursday.
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And as Carlos thought about how weird it was that one, he was paralyzed, and two, he had no memory of what happened after he made that right turn, he started to realize that he felt something against his back.
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It was like there was a block underneath his back, kind of right between his shoulder blades, propping his chest up, and he felt his arms kind of dangling down by the side, and it was very uncomfortable. And as he laid in this totally awkward position, he began to hear somewhere out in the ether, unfamiliar voices just kind of chatting.
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And immediately Carlos is like, okay, someone's here to help me. I don't know what's wrong with me, but somebody's here. I'm going to be okay. And soon, whoever was talking near Carlos had moved closer to him, and actually Carlos began to realize that it was actually more than one person.
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It was at least two people talking back and forth, but again, Carlos can't open his eyes, he can't move, he can't communicate with these people. He just knows they've come closer to him. And after these people had moved right up against Carlos, Carlos suddenly felt something metal pressing up against his chin. It was kind of sharp and it kind of hurt when it touched his chin.
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And Carlos wanted to scream out and tell them whatever they were doing to stop and at least tell him what was going on. But Carlos couldn't make a sound. And then Carlos began to hear this kind of mechanical whirring sound, like a machine starting up that was very close to where he was. And suddenly Carlos began panicking, like, what's going on? What are they doing to me?
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And as Carlos's heart rate is starting to speed up, one of the people who had moved near Carlos suddenly said, oh my God, that's impossible. This can't be. And then again, Carlos felt more pain in his chin. And then the pain got dramatically worse.
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It went from just kind of like a poking feeling to something going into his chin, and he felt it moving underneath his skin like a knife cutting through him, and then whatever it was, it went out of his chin. And as this is happening, Carlos is trying so hard to just wake himself up and do something to tell these people to stop, but he just couldn't do it.
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And then again, he felt that sharp pain in his chin, another round of something going into him, moving underneath his skin and then poking out again, and the pain became so blinding that suddenly Carlos was able to kind of break through this paralysis, and his eyes shot open. And for a second, all Carlos could see was like blinding lights.
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But then as things came into focus, he saw there were two people, the people who had been speaking, wearing these huge goggles and face masks. And one of them was holding a big needle with black thread attached to it. And that thread was coming from Carlos's chin. They had been running that needle through his face, stitching his chin for some reason, but with no anesthetic.
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And so as Carlos is staring up at these people in goggles, the people in goggles are looking down at Carlos and they're totally horrified. And they just kind of begin backing up, not really sure what to make of this. And then Carlos, again, kind of breaking through this weird paralysis he was under, he was able to lift his head up and look down at his body.
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And he saw, to his horror, that he was totally nude. He was laying on a metal table and there was this Y drawn on his chest. starting at his collarbones, coming down right underneath his throat, and then straight down across his chest.
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And then after Carlos saw this Y on his naked body, he looked over at a tray that was right next to this metal table, near these two guys in goggles, who were now kind of backing up, and he saw there was a whirring instrument on this table, and it was a circular blade, a saw. That was the sound he heard. And that's when Carlos figured it out.
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Earlier that day, when Carlos had been out riding his motorcycle with his friend, he had gone down that long straightaway in La Victoria, he had made a right turn, and parked illegally right after this turn was this big truck.
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Carlos didn't see it, and at full speed, he impacted the truck, he was thrown from his bike, smashed into the ground, horrific injuries, and when paramedics showed up, they pronounced him dead on the scene. And so he was moved from the scene of the accident to the morgue.
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And at the morgue, Carlos was stripped naked and put on this metal table, and they placed a block underneath his shoulders, kind of propping his chest up, and they drew a Y down the center of his chest for his autopsy. The two doctors that Carlos ultimately saw chatting and performing this autopsy were going to follow that Y on his body with the circular saw.
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That's how they cut you open during an autopsy. But right before they were about to do that, the doctors noticed that Carlos was actively bleeding from his chin. And since he was supposed to be dead, that didn't make any sense. And so that was why one of the doctors had said, oh my goodness, this can't be.
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And so not really sure what to make of it, they had just grabbed a needle and begun stitching his face together to stop the blood from going down his chest. And then Carlos opened his eyes and it dawned on the two doctors that, oh, he's alive. That's why he's still bleeding. We should definitely take care of him now.
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But amazingly, after Carlos came back from the dead, he was simply moved into the hallway and left on this metal table. And the doctors who were going to perform his autopsy just left the paper that said he needed an autopsy in his pocket. Just kind of showing that, hey, we were just following orders. Somebody told us to give you an autopsy. This is not our fault. And that's where Carlos stayed.
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until his wife showed up and found him in the hallway just laying there as if he was still just waiting for his autopsy. Carlos would suffer horrible injuries from the accident and serious emotional trauma from almost being cut open during this autopsy, but he would make a full recovery. The next and final story of today's episode is called Timothy Dexter.
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In the winter of 1748, Timothy Dexter was born in a town just north of Boston, Massachusetts, called Malden. Despite being incredibly dim-witted, Timothy always believed he was going to strike it rich one day. But looking around at his family, who were a bunch of poor farm laborers, Timothy realized he would need to make some big moves if he wanted that dream to become a reality.
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When he was just eight years old, he decided he would make the first of his many big moves. And this move was to drop out of second grade and go to work on a farm and then on to a leather tannery. For years, he worked hard, earning more money than his family had ever made, but he knew this line of work was not going to make him rich.
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And so when he was 19 years old, he decided it was time to make yet another big move. He sold his best suit and used the money to relocate farther north to another Massachusetts town called Newburyport. He believed with their booming economy, he was bound to make some additional money there. And he was right, but his payday would not come from a higher paying job.
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Now, admittedly, Kim had no idea what they were actually going to be doing because Steve was the one who planned it, and he was obviously being very secretive about the details. He wanted this to be a surprise. And so for weeks leading up to this weekend, Kim would see Steve on the phone all the time, presumably planning whatever it is they were gonna be doing,
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but he wouldn't let Kim hear what he was saying on the phone. He would kind of muffle his voice or he'd hang up before she could come over and hear him. And then also after these secretive phone calls, Kim would often see Steve writing all these notes down in his journal, presumably about whatever it was he was planning.
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The only details Steve shared with Kim about this trip was, make sure you wear something nice. When the couple reached their car, Steve hopped in the driver's seat and Kim hopped in the passenger seat. And immediately right after Steve had fired up the car, Kim turned to him and said, are you going to tell me? You going to tell me where we're going?
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But Steve just grinned and said, nope, it's a surprise.
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kim gave a theatrical sigh and sat back and feigned frustration but inside the way she was really feeling was just excited this was so cool that steve had put so much effort into whatever it is they were gonna do but also kim was seeing her husband was really making a big effort to make her happy and this was kind of new because lately their relationship had been really rocky kim and steve had been married for nine years by this point and they were both very very different people
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Steve was a total homebody, kind of introverted, and Kim was the opposite. She was super extroverted and very social. But when they first met each other, it was actually their stark differences that brought them together.
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For Kim, when they met, she was in her early 20s, she had just dropped out of college, and her experience with men so far had been she would meet them at parties or bars, and at first, it would seem like their relationship was great, but then invariably, these guys would just kind of move on and break Kim's heart. But Steve was different.
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He was this huge guy, six foot four, massive football player, but he was totally a gentle giant. And as soon as he met Kim, Kim could tell this guy is different. He's treating her with respect. You know, he's loyal to her. He really cares about her. And so they hit it off right away. And Kim very quickly became pregnant, at which point Steve asked her to marry him.
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And Kim didn't hesitate for a second. They were totally in love. And marriage to Steve had really been a stabilizing factor in Kim's life. She wound up going back to college and got her degree, which landed her a job as a surgical technician, which is what she did now. And Steve turned out to be just a fantastic father.
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And he wound up actually staying home with their daughter when she was a baby so Kim could go out and work. And Kim always thought it was funny when she would come home and she would see Steve standing in the doorway cradling this infant, but he's like this massive person, and so their baby looked like a toy. But unfortunately, over the last year, Kim had seen a change in Steve.
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He went from being a shy person, but a person who could go out and function in society, to a shy person who basically stopped going outside altogether. Steve basically refused to go out anywhere with Kim. He didn't want to talk to anyone. He didn't want to spend time with their friends or family. He just wanted to stay home and watch TV or hang out in the basement.
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I mean, it was pretty obvious he was depressed, but his introvertedness was becoming kind of stifling for Kim. And so Kim approached Steve and said, you really need to go to therapy to get better here. You know, I'll go with you. We can do couples therapy. But Steve refused. And so finally, right around this past new year, Kim decided she had just had enough. She was totally unhappy.
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She did not feel like Steve was going to change. And so Kim told Steve that she wanted to get divorced. And when Steve heard that, he realized the gravity of this situation. He knew Kim was unhappy with him, but he did not know she was thinking about separating. And so Steve kind of broke down and begged Kim to give him another chance.
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You know, let him prove to her that he will change, that he wants this marriage to work. And Kim said, okay. And so that was how Steve wound up planning this very secret getaway on Valentine's Day. This trip was supposed to be the start of their new and improved marriage. And so Kim was really excited and optimistic about the future.
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After driving for about an hour and a half, Steve pulled off the highway and began following signs towards the Eastern Shore, which is a waterfront area of Maryland that's very beautiful. It was located about 70 miles away from Steve and Kim's home. After driving for a few minutes, Steve pulled into the parking lot of the Harbortown Golf Resort.
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And as soon as he pulled into a spot and turned off the car, he clapped his hands and turned to Kim and said, OK, we're here. And Kim looked from her husband out to all the perfectly manicured grounds and the beautiful resort. And she smiled and leapt out of the car excitedly. Kim and Steve took each other's hands and marched inside to check in.
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And as they were checking in, the person behind the desk gave them glasses of champagne. And then after handing Kim and Steve their key cards, the receptionist told them that their cottage where they were staying was like the nicest property at the resort. Kim and Steve were totally pumped. They took their champagne and their room keys.
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They walked back to their car and then drove a little ways deeper into the resort to their cottage. It was cottage 506 and looked out over the water. And when they went inside, Kim was totally wowed. It was this rustic suite with a wood fire stove in the middle and two queen size beds and a little coffee table area for breakfast over here. It was perfect.
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And then when Kim actually walked into this cottage, she noticed there was a card sitting on a table and it looked like a wedding invitation. Kim was confused and looked over at Steve and Steve just smiled and said, go check it out. And so Kim walked over and she grabbed the note and she began reading it. And as she did, she began to smile.
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The card really was a wedding invitation, albeit it was for a fake wedding. Because it would turn out, this was not just a random overnight that Steve had planned for both of them. Instead, he had purchased a romantic getaway package, which included this amazing cottage, but also a professional dinner theater performance that would be held on the resort grounds.
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Kim read the description of the dinner theater show on this invitation. It was a murder mystery called The Bride Who Cried, where the actors in the show would put on a whole fake wedding, and then at the end of the wedding, somebody would get killed and the audience would need to figure out who did it. For an extrovert like Kim, an activity like this was perfect.
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And so Kim felt totally touched that clearly Steve had heard her and the first thing he did to kind of win her back was to begin to do the things that Kim really wanted to do, which was really going out and having fun. And so after Kim finished reading the card, she turned and looked over at Steve and Steve was kind of nervous because he wasn't sure if Kim was going to like it.
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And Kim, she broke into this huge smile. She walked over to Steve and gave him a big hug. And Steve, he was so happy and he hugged her real tight right back. Kim and Steve would spend the next couple of hours sitting by their fire inside of their nice cottage, drinking their champagne and talking about the future and just telling stories and having a good time.
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And then around 7 p.m., Steve and Kim put on their nicest clothes and walked their way over to the area on the resort where this dinner theater was going to happen. It was in an event hall with a bunch of round tables set up for the audience.
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And so once Steve and Kim and the other audience members all took their seats, the actors and actresses came into the room and they were all dressed in their wedding clothes. There was a bride and a groom and a wedding party. And the audience was instructed to participate in the wedding as if they were wedding guests.
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And so the audience all stood up and they began kind of having this fake social hour of meeting all the wedding guests. And then Steve, Kim and the audience members all took their seats and they got ready to watch the drama unfold. And Kim pretty much immediately was totally absorbed in this performance.
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She was so enthusiastic talking to the actors and talking to the other guests and really pretending like she was part of the wedding. I mean, she was having a blast. The play itself was about a groom who was in the mafia who was forcing his bride to marry him by threatening her family. The climax came when the groom stood up and gave a toast with his champagne.
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In 2009, 15-year-old Christina Grimmie finally caved and made her own YouTube channel. For years, her friends and family had been begging her to do this because Christina had this incredible singing voice that they wanted the world to hear, but Christina had always been hesitant because she was a bit of an introvert.
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He took a sip and then fell down dead. Kim watched all of this with delight, but she kept looking over at Steve, hoping he too would be smiling and having a good time. But each time she looked at him, he was just kind of stone-faced and looking straight ahead, like he just didn't care or he was totally disinterested.
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And then a couple of times when Kim leaned over and said, hey, you know, honey, who do you think did it? Who do you think the killer is? Steve basically just completely ignored her. It was like she wasn't there and the play wasn't there. He was just totally zoned out.
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Eventually, Kim and a few other very enthusiastic audience members figured out the killer in the play was the bride's mother, who poisoned the groom, and then after this discovery was made, the play was over.
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As everyone got up from their seats and began to leave, Kim couldn't help but feel really annoyed with Steve because he was just so silent and not invested in this play, and it's like, we came all the way here, why aren't you at least pretending to enjoy this? But Kim also thought, you know, Steve put a ton of effort into this weekend. He's clearly trying. I'm not going to start a fight.
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I'm not going to bring it up. And so finally, Kim just said to Steve, hey, you know, why don't we go to the bar and get a couple of drinks, bring them back to our cottage and just hang out there for the night. And when Steve heard this, he actually smiled and said, OK, great, let's do it.
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And by the time the couple got back to the front door of cottage 506, they were holding hands again and laughing and telling stories. And they went inside and Steve put the beers down on the table. And then Kim said she was going to go in the bedroom and just quickly change into something more comfortable.
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And so Kim walked into the bedroom and shut the door and Steve walked to the front door and turned the lock. Three hours later, a man named Philip Parker, who was staying at the resort with his family, heard a commotion in the lobby. And he heard people saying there might be a fire at Cottage 506 and there could be somebody still inside.
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Philip immediately turned to his cousin who was with him and the two of them bolted outside and just started running towards cottage 506. And as soon as they got to a place where they could see the cottage from a distance, they could see black oily smoke pouring out of the windows. When they got up to the burning cottage, Philip ran to the front door, but it was locked. He couldn't get inside.
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He screamed to see if anybody was in there, but there was no answer. And so Philip and the cousin ran around to the back of the cottage where there was a glass sliding door. And Philip, he tried the handle, but it was locked. At this point, the cousin said he was going to run back to the resort and get a fire extinguisher.
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But that year, Christina was feeling more outgoing, and so she took the plunge, she makes this channel, and in July of that year, she uploads her first two songs. They were both cover songs, and she was really proud of them, but when she uploaded them, they didn't get very many views. And so Christina probably was not very excited about making more videos.
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And after the cousin ran off, Philip turned back towards the sliding glass door and realized it actually opened on both ends. And he had only checked one side and found that side to be locked. But on the other side, which he was now noticing, it was obviously unlocked because it was open just barely.
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so philip immediately opened it up and all the smoke began coming out and so philip dropped down to get a better look because down low the smoke had not fully settled there was a bit of an air pocket right at the bottom of the floor and so philip got down and he looked inside and for a second he couldn't quite see anything but then he noticed in the middle of the bedroom right inside this cottage he could clearly see somebody's feet somebody was on the ground
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And so Philip screamed that he was coming in and then he opened the door the rest of the way and he began low crawling into the bedroom. And as he did, he was hacking and coughing from all the smoke. And so finally Philip reached this person and he grabbed their foot and he shook them to try to wake them up, but they weren't moving. But the fire was getting bigger and stronger.
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The smoke was getting thicker. Philip was really starting to panic and was worried that he too would get trapped in here. And so he just grabbed this person's leg and began pulling them. And it was really hard, but he finally got this person back to the door. He couldn't quite get them over that lip of where the sliding door was.
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But right then, Philip's cousin showed up and the two of them were able to grab this person and get them out of the cottage. And this was the moment when Philip finally got a look at the person he was just dragging out, and it was immediately clear to him that this person was deceased. Their face was basically gone. It was completely burned away.
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In the days and weeks leading up to this weekend, Steve really was taking secret phone calls and writing notes down in his journal because he was planning something very special. But he was not the only one with plans for this weekend.
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Here's what police say happened after Kim and Steve got back to their cottage following the show and Kim went into the bedroom to change and Steve went to the front door and locked it. A couple of minutes later, Kim came out of the bedroom wearing something sexy and she looked at Steve and smiled and said, come on, get in bed. I'll join you in a second.
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And so Steve's like, great, my plan is working. We're going to reconnect here. He climbed in bed and he laid down. Then Kim, she walked over and got something out of her bag. And then she walked back over to the bed and she pulled out a syringe and she stabbed it into Steve before he could do anything. And she injected him with something called succinylcholine.
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Kim had access to this drug from her job as a surgical tech. Succinylcholine is used to relax people's muscles during surgery, but if you give someone too big a dose, it can stop their breathing. And this drug works pretty much instantly, which means Steve would have seen his wife stab him with that syringe, but then instantly he would have been totally paralyzed, but fully awake and fully alive.
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But a month later, she found herself really enjoying the song Party in the USA by Miley Cyrus. And so she was singing it all the time and humming it all the time. And so finally she said, okay, I'll just film myself covering that song. So she records herself singing this song. She uploads it to her YouTube channel, her third video.
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And so as he was laying there, he would have seen his wife put the syringe down and then grabbed lighter fluid and then walked over to him and calmly poured the lighter fluid all over Steve's face and chest. And then one of Steve's final images he likely saw before his lungs stopped working and he died was his wife striking a match and lighting him on fire.
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After lighting Steve on fire, Kim casually walked out the back sliding door. She shut it, leaving it open just a crack. And then she made her way to the resort lobby where she put on this big act about how her cottage was on fire and she thinks her husband was still inside.
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And Philip overheard Kim say that her husband might be inside the cottage, which is when he and his cousin jumped into action. They ran to the cottage and ultimately found Steve deceased inside of the cottage. Ultimately, Kim never intended to give Steve a second chance in their marriage.
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She was already having an affair with a much younger man who was in the Marines, and she was just done with Steve. And so as Steve began telling his friends and family how he was gonna make a huge effort to save his marriage, Kim was going around to her friends and literally openly talking about how she wanted to murder her husband. but nobody took her seriously.
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They thought she was just kind of venting and being kind of dramatic. But as soon as the news broke that Steve had died in this fire and Kim had not, people rushed to the police to tell them, pretty sure Kim had something to do with this. Kim was convicted of her husband's murder and she was sentenced to life in prison.
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The links to the original YouTube videos are in the description. The first story you'll hear is called Obsessed, and it's about a rising star who is confronted by a superfan. The second story you'll hear is called Facebook Post, and it's about the disturbing backstory to a horrifying post that has since been deleted.
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It would turn out the primary reason why Steve was so secretive before going on this trip was he really wanted it to be this unbelievably special, romantic, kind of like recreation of the couple's first date.
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And so what he was doing is he was calling all of Kim's friends and family members and asking them questions about things Kim liked because he wanted to incorporate all of her interests in this trip. And then after these calls, when Steve was writing in his journal, that was not just writing down like logistics of the trip.
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He was also writing down how much he loved Kim and how excited he was for their future and what they would build together as a family. I mean, Steve really believed they were on a path to reconciliation, but of course that just was not the case.
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And she thinks no one's going to see it because her first two videos, no one really saw. But this video is different. It went viral almost immediately and millions and millions of people saw it and they loved it. Christina couldn't believe it.
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The abolitionist mission isn't done until every prison is empty and shut down.
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Even though her friends and family had been telling her all along, you have this great voice, you got to share it with the world, that's different than actually seeing the results of the world saying, you're really great, we love your voice. And so she saw this huge opportunity and she began uploading more and more music to her channel and more and more of her videos went viral.
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Over the next four years, she amassed over 2 million subscribers on her YouTube channel, she put out her own album, and she even went on tour with the mega celebrity pop star Selena Gomez. In 2014, Christina auditioned for the TV singing competition called The Voice. This show only allows a very small number of contestants who are all incredibly talented musicians.
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They get screened really aggressively before the competition even starts. But despite the very intense competition she was up against, Christina still managed to finish third overall in this competition. Now, she might have been a little bit let down that she didn't finish first, but that show did wonders for her career.
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Because the judges of this competition were mega celebrity musicians, and every time Christina was on TV doing her performance for the competition, the judges would be raving about how talented she was, and that even if she doesn't win this competition, someone's going to sign her, she's so incredible.
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And then sure enough, shortly after that competition ended, Christina was signed to a major record label. But despite being considered a star by the masses, Christina still very much viewed herself as being a YouTuber first, which meant despite her mainstream popularity and fame, she continued to upload songs and vlogs to her YouTube channel because she wanted to stay connected to her fans.
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YouTubers often upload videos that appear very amateur, like not professionally produced. It almost looks like anybody could have picked up their phone and filmed that video. And YouTubers tend to be very candid and show their personality in their videos. And so it makes YouTubers, especially these really popular ones, seem very real and raw and relatable.
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Unlike traditional celebrities that are kind of outside of society, living in their mansions, living a totally elite and different lifestyle, YouTubers feel like they're your friends. And this was definitely the case with Christina. On her videos, she came off as very humble and gracious and kind and friendly, and so her fans truly adored her.
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By June of 2016, Christina was still growing in popularity when she was asked to be the opening act for this concert in Orlando, Florida that was happening later that month. She agreed and then on the day of the concert, which was June 10th, she posted to her social media this kind of shout out to all of her fans saying, hey, if you're in the Orlando, Florida area, come out to my show.
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And the third and final story you'll hear is called Murder Mystery Murder, and it's about a little cottage's dark secret. But before we get into today's stories, if you're a fan of the Strange, Dark and Mysterious delivered in story format, then you've come to the right podcast because that's all we do and we upload twice a week, once on Monday and once on Thursday.
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And then after the show, I'm going to stick around and sign autographs and meet you guys. That night, the venue where this concert was happening was jam-packed, and most of the people were there for Christina, not the main act.
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And so Christina, she goes on stage, she has this incredible performance, the main act goes on stage, and then around 10 p.m., the concert ends, at which point Christina comes back out from behind stage and went right out into the crowd... and began meeting her fans and hugging them and signing autographs and taking pictures.
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And then at 10.24 p.m., a man who was a fan of Christina's walked down from the back of the venue and kind of awkwardly gestured that he kind of wanted to get a hug. And Christina saw that. And so she smiled and she walked up to him. She opened her arms to give him a big hug.
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And when she got just a couple of feet away from him, he drew a pistol and he fired four shots into her head and into her body. Christina's brother, Mark, he was standing right nearby and he saw the attack. And so he tackled the shooter and he was trying to get control of this guy.
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But at some point the shooter managed to wriggle free and then he stood up and he kind of walked backwards until he was literally up against this wall, looking at the sea of people that are totally horrified. People are screaming and running and no one knows what he's gonna do next. And then the shooter just raises the gun, puts it to his head and pulls the trigger.
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There were people in the audience who were medically trained who rushed over to Christina and they began performing CPR on her, but there really wasn't anything anyone could do. She would die that night at the hospital. Her killer was a 27-year-old man named Kevin Loible.
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He, like many people, had become a Christina superfan, but his infatuation with her became a totally unhealthy obsession, and when it eventually dawned on him that he most likely would never have a romantic relationship with Christina, he came to the conclusion that if I can't have her, no one can have her.
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And so when Christina put that post out on social media, asking people to come to Orlando to see her show and meet her after the show, he took that as an opportunity to go kill her. And so he lived in St. Petersburg, Florida, which is 120 miles away. And so he sees this post on social media, he grabs his two pistols, some extra ammunition, he gets a large hunting knife, and then he calls a cab.
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The cab drives him 120 miles northeast to Orlando, Florida, And then he gets into the venue with his weaponry because there weren't metal detectors and no one was frisking people as they came inside. And so he was in the back of the venue during the show. And then when it was over, he kind of lingered back, allowing other fans to go up and, you know, kind of mob Christina.
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And then when there was a lull and there were less people down there with her, he strode right down the aisle and he ended her life. Our next story is called Facebook Post. Chad Lawhorn woke up in his Nashville home around 3 a.m. on April 8th, 2018. He had taken a long flight back from San Francisco the night before, so his sleep schedule was all messed up.
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So if that's of interest to you, please offer to house sit for the Amazon Music Follow button while they're away for the weekend. But instead of looking after their property, just spend the entire weekend downloading viruses to their computer. Okay, let's get into our first story called Obsessed.
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Not feeling very tired, he decided to go downstairs to the kitchen to get a snack. And as he was walking down the stairs, he pulled out his phone and he saw a notification from his Venmo account. His younger brother Casey had sent him $250 and attached to it was a single word note. It just said damages.
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Knowing his brother had long struggled with his mental health, Chad was concerned he was getting ready to hurt himself and he had sent him this money as a way to compensate for the emotional toll he was about to inflict on him. Chad didn't even change out of his pajamas.
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He grabbed his keys, hopped in his car, and began driving the two hours to Eastridge, Tennessee, where his younger brother and his mother lived. On the ride there, he called both of them dozens of times, but he never got through.
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When he finally pulled onto their street, he looked down the road, and he saw dozens of police cars and TV crews, and there was yellow crime scene tape all around their property. Chad just stopped the car right in the middle of the road and just stared. And he didn't know how long he was there for, but at some point, one of the police officers noticed him and walked up and knocked on his window.
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And when the officer found out who he was talking to, the news Chad was delivered was far worse than anything he was expecting. 24 hours earlier, Chad's younger brother, Casey, who is 23, was spending the day with one of his very good friends named Avery. They had gone to a comic book store to play Magic the Gathering, and then afterwards they headed back to Casey's house to go to bed.
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Around 1230 in the morning, Avery fell asleep on the living room floor, and as Casey was getting ready to go to bed himself, his mother called him and asked if he could come pick her up at the bar. And so Casey begrudgingly agreed to do it. He drove to pick her up, and when he saw her, he could tell she was totally intoxicated.
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And the entire ride home, she just pleaded with Casey not to hurt himself because it would totally devastate her if he ever did that. Casey hated when she talked to him that way, and apparently she did this all the time. When they got back to the house, Casey dropped his mom off, and then he went up to his bedroom where he retrieved a rifle he had stolen from a friend.
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And then he paced around his room for a while, getting mentally prepared for what he was about to do. And when he felt ready, he left his room, he went downstairs to the living room where Avery was still asleep on the ground, and he placed the rifle up against the side of his head, and he fired one shot, killing his friend instantly. Once he was dead, Casey went upstairs to his mother's room.
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When he got to the threshold of her room, he pushed the door open and it was totally dark, but he could tell his mother was still awake in her bed. He raised his rifle and he fired, except the gun didn't go off. It jammed. His mother, because she was so intoxicated, did not hear the shot ring out and she didn't really know what her son was doing in the doorway, so she did not raise any alarms.
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And so Casey just turned around, walked into the hallway where there was light, he fixed the jam in his gun, he turned back around and this time his mother was now out of bed because the family dog was barking like mad. And so his mother was trying to calm the dog down and she looked up and saw her son standing in the doorway carrying a gun And so she just kind of froze and stared at him.
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And that's when Casey, without any hesitation, raises his rifle and fires two shots and then his gun jams again. Now, neither of those two shots were fatal, although one of them did strike her in the arm. And even though she was intoxicated, she was now fully aware her son is trying to kill her. And so she's screaming at him, why are you doing this? You're killing me. Casey was totally unfazed.
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He flipped on the lights. He fixed the jam. He re-aimed at his mother and his mother who was still just standing next to the bed, looking at her son, wondering why this was happening. And Casey just aimed and took two shots and these would be fatal.
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After that, he went downstairs and robbed Avery and then he hopped in his car and he drove all the way to Mississippi where within 24 hours, he would take his own life. We know all of these details because shortly after he committed these crimes, Casey posted a lengthy confession to Facebook detailing exactly what happened and what he did.
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In his post, Casey says he feels extremely bad for his older brother Chad because he knows this is going to be extremely hard for him, and he encourages people to help his brother during this insanely difficult time.
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While he doesn't provide a specific motive for why he committed these crimes, he does say at the end of his confession that he's been thinking about murder a lot lately and wanted to know how it felt. But after doing it, he says he barely felt anything at all. If you're listening to this podcast, then chances are good you are a fan of The Strange, Dark, and Mysterious.
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And if that's the case, then I've got some good news. We just launched a brand new Strange, Dark, and Mysterious podcast called Mr. Ballin's Medical Mysteries. And as the name suggests, it's a show about medical mysteries. a genre that many fans have been asking us to dive into for years, and we finally decided to take the plunge, and the show is awesome.
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In this free weekly show, we explore bizarre unheard of diseases, strange medical mishaps, unexplainable deaths, and everything in between. Each story is totally true and totally terrifying. Go follow Mr. Ballin's Medical Mysteries wherever you get your podcasts, and if you're a Prime member, you can listen early and ad-free on Amazon Music. Hey listeners, big news for true crime lovers.
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The next and final story of today's episode is called Murder, Mystery, Murder. A little afternoon on Valentine's Day, 1998, a married couple named Steve and Kim Rico held hands as they walked towards their car.
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They had just dropped their eight-year-old daughter off at a neighbor's house in the suburban neighborhood in Maryland where they lived, and now Steve and Kim had the whole weekend to themselves. And they were really excited about it because they had this big trip planned.
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Hey Prime members, you can binge eight new episodes of the Mr. Ballin podcast one month early and all episodes ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today. In today's story, you very likely will at some point go, okay, I know where this is going. But you won't.
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On the night of January 31st, 1910, an American couple living in London named Belle and Dr. Harpy Crippen were hosting a small dinner party for two of their friends. The group had just finished their food and they were now in the middle of a game called Whist, which is a card game, when suddenly Belle put her cards down and she stood up to tell a story.
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But coming out of that investigation, Walter Dew had really developed a great reputation as a really good detective. And so to have him lead this case was a big deal. And so on the afternoon of July 6th, 1910, so roughly five months after Bell had gone missing, Inspector Dew, as one of his first things he would do for this case, went to Dr. Crippen's house to ask him about his wife.
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Now, Inspector Dew expected that Dr. Crippen would tell him the same story he had told everybody else about Belle, which is, you know, she had to go to America to take care of the sick relative. And while she was over there, unfortunately, Belle passed away. But what Dr. Crippen ultimately told Inspector Dew was not that.
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Now, at first, Inspector Dew just asked Dr. Crippen a lot of basic questions about his wife, but Dr. Crippen seemed really awkward as he answered these questions. He actually almost seemed really embarrassed. And Inspector Dew clearly noticed this, but just kept on asking these routine questions and just allowed Dr. Crippen to act however he was gonna act.
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But at some point, Dr. Crippen just stopped answering the questions altogether, and he paused for a minute with his head in his hands, and then he took off his glasses, he put them on the table, and then he looked up at Inspector Dew, and he said, you know, I should just tell you the truth. Bell isn't dead.
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Dr. Crippen told the inspector that the day following that dinner party they hosted with Paul and Clara, that that morning when Dr. Crippen woke up, his wife was gone and all her things were gone too. She had packed up in the middle of the night and left without telling him where she was going. And so Dr. Crippen realized his wife had finally made good on the threat to leave him.
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Dr. Crippen said he lied about what happened to Belle because he was trying to avoid a scandal. He said that, you know, while Belle was horrible to him personally and really mistreated him, she was really kind of amazing with everybody else and everybody else loved her. And so Dr. Crippen really believed that lying about this would ultimately save her reputation and his own. So it was a win-win.
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And once Dr. Crippen was relatively sure Belle was not gonna be coming back, that she really had left him for good, that was when he began openly dating Ethel, because he had actually been in love with his assistant, Ethel, for a long time, and he felt like now, with his wife out of the picture, he could finally love her out in the open
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even though he admitted, you know, nobody would actually understand the dynamic here because everybody else thinks Belle is over in America, and here I am cheating on her. But, you know, Dr. Crippen insisted to the inspector that this was the truth. He was not cheating on Belle. He didn't have anything to do with her disappearance. She left of her own accord, and here he was.
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And so after Dr. Crippen explained all this to the inspector, Dr. Crippen just put his face in his hands and just looked so ashamed and embarrassed to the point where Inspector Dew really believed Dr. Crippen. I mean, this is a guy who has just poured his soul out about some of the most embarrassing things of his entire life, so he's gotta be telling the truth.
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Also, Inspector Dew couldn't help but think to himself that Dr. Crippen was this little kind of passive-seeming guy who did not really seem capable of killing somebody else. But at the same time, Inspector Dew could definitely see a woman like Belle leaving Dr. Crippen the way that she did.
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And Dr. Crippen saw his wife doing this and kind of knew what was going to happen. And he kind of gestured for her to not tell the story and please sit down and play this game. But she just kind of waved at him dismissively, like, please leave me alone. I'm going to do what I want to do. Dr. Crippen sighed and just kind of sat back and let this happen.
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Still, just to be thorough, Inspector Dew asked Dr. Crippen if he wouldn't mind allowing the inspector to search the property, because after all, this is a missing person case, and so we gotta check everything. Dr. Crippen said, absolutely, search my house, do whatever you gotta do, and Inspector Dew would do just that. He went all over the house, looked everywhere, and he would find nothing.
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So the inspector told Dr. Crippen that as of now, he believed his story and that basically the case was closed, but Inspector Dew really needed to talk to Bell in order to officially close the case, because right now, everybody thought she was dead, no one had heard from her, and so that was the one missing piece.
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And so Dr. Crippen said that was totally fine, and he and the inspector actually worked together to draft up this little advertisement that would go in newspapers in America that basically would say, hey, Bell, if you see this, you need to contact police in London because we're looking for you.
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And so after the two men had come up with the language they wanted for this advertisement, Inspector Dew thanked Dr. Crippen, said he'd be in touch, and then he left. But five days later, when Inspector Dew went to follow up with Dr. Crippen, he discovered that Dr. Crippen and his new lover, Ethel, his assistant, were both gone and nobody knew where they were.
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And this changed everything about the Bell case. Inspector Dew couldn't help but think, you know, Dr. Crippen and Ethel look like they're running from something. So probably they lied to me about their involvement with Bell's disappearance. And so Inspector Dew sent physical descriptions to all the newspapers and police stations all across Europe.
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And also he made a note to check all the ships that were bound for America in case Dr. Crippen and Ethel had decided to flee Europe that way. And while this big manhunt was just getting underway, Inspector Dew and his team went back to Dr. Crippen's house to do a much more thorough search.
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So police descended on Dr. Crippen's beautiful three-story home on a quiet street, and they went inside and they tore apart everything. They flipped over mattresses, they opened up drawers and closets, they threw everything out, but they found nothing suspicious.
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But at some point, Inspector Dew, who was feeling really annoyed that he'd been totally duped by this doctor, he was walking down the basement steps in Dr. Crippen's house. And as he went down, he saw there were other investigators already in the basement conducting yet another fruitless search.
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But as Inspector Dew kind of turned the corner at the base of the basement stairs, he noticed the bricks that were laying in front of the fireplace that was in the basement just looked a little bit off. like they were maybe too new or something. And so just kind of acting on a hunch, he walked over to these bricks that were laid out right in front of this fireplace.
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Anywhere they went, he knew his wife had to be the center of attention and there was just nothing he could do. Dr. Crippen was a pretty passive guy who kind of got walked all over, especially by his wife. He was kind of little, he had big bulging eyes and huge glasses he wore, and his job was he basically sat inside of a dentist's office and mixed medicines for the dentist.
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And he's looking at them and he grabs a poker, one of the pokers you use to move the logs around in a fire. And he just began tapping on each of the individual bricks right in front of them. And with every tap, he would hear the solid thump sound that you're hitting something hard that is beneath this brick.
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But as he went along hitting each of these bricks, he eventually reached the kind of center of these bricks. And when he brought that poker down on one of those bricks, it made a hollow sound. Clearly there was something underneath these bricks. And so Inspector Dew is super excited. He calls for his team to come over and one by one, they begin pulling up all these bricks.
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And after they're all gone, they see there's this perfectly smooth layer of clay that these bricks were sitting on top of. And so Inspector Dew called for a shovel, a guy brought one over, and Dew, he took one scoop with the shovel and immediately this horrible smell began coming out of the ground that was so gross that the guys around Inspector Dew began retching and vomiting.
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And before long, the entire group of investigators had basically fled the basement to get away from this horrible smell.
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But after composing themselves, Inspector Dew and the rest of his team put handkerchiefs over their nose and their mouths, and they went back into the house, down into the basement, they grabbed that shovel, and they continued to dig, and after just a couple of scoops, they saw what was causing this terrible smell.
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In this clay pit, this hole in the basement underneath the bricks, were all these human body parts in the ground. but there were no arms, there were no legs, there was no head. All you had were just the internal organs of somebody. And then also there was like a blanket of skin that looked like it had been extracted from somebody's body with near surgical precision.
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Now, the police could not, based on these limited remains, make an actual positive identification of who exactly this was. But they did find in this pit, along with the organs and the skin, were several strands of hair that matched Bell's. There were several pieces of pajamas that belonged to Dr. Crippen.
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And then also on that skin fillet they found, there was a distinctive birthmark on it that matched the one that Bell had. Also, investigators were able to determine that inside of the intestines that were found in this hole were traces of a particular kind of tranquilizer that in the weeks leading up to Bell's disappearance, Dr. Crippen was making that particular tranquilizer at his work.
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He mixed medicines for dentist's offices. That was the tranquilizer he was working with right before Bell disappeared. Shortly after these shocking discoveries were made, Dr. Crippen and Ethel were found on a boat trying to flee the country that way. And so they would be arrested. And so ultimately, Dr. Crippen would be found guilty of murdering his wife and he would be sentenced to death.
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As for Ethel, she would be acquitted of any participation in the crime. However, this was not the end of the story. Far from it. 100 years later, in 2010, a forensic scientist from Michigan State University fished out a piece of tissue from the remains found in Dr. Crippen's basement that had been preserved inside of a London museum.
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And so he was just kind of like this anonymous forgotten about guy that worked in a back office hidden from the world. Meanwhile, his wife, Belle, is like this beautiful woman, huge personality. She's an aspiring actress and singer and everywhere they went, everybody loved her and basically didn't notice Dr. Crippen.
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Now, this murder case had been officially closed since 1910, but the bizarre details of this case had never really fully made sense to a lot of people.
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Like they didn't understand how or why Dr. Crippen had successfully disposed of his wife's head, her arms, her legs, all her bones, those are all gone, nobody ever found those, but he decided to keep her organs and her skin buried in his basement under loose bricks? That doesn't make any sense.
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Also, if Dr. Crippen killed his wife by poisoning her, which is what is suggested from all that tranquilizer that was found in her intestines, that basically he overdosed her, then why did he dismember her afterwards? The reason killers often kill with poison is because it makes the victim's death look a bit more natural.
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Whereas if you mutilate someone's body, then obviously someone did it and you're calling suspicion on yourself. And so did Dr. Crippen poison his wife and then just throw that out the window and mutilated her body anyways? It just didn't make sense. So this forensic scientist from Michigan State University decided he was finally gonna get some answers to this case.
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Because the ending to this story is so random that it actually took a hundred years to piece together what actually happened. But before we get into today's story, if you're a fan of the Strange, Dark, and Mysterious delivered in story format, then you've come to the right podcast because that's all we do and we upload twice a week, once on Monday and once on Thursday.
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And so what he did is he compared the DNA from the tissue he dug out to the DNA of one of Bell's grand nieces. And when he compared the two, he saw they didn't match. which meant the body that was found in Dr. Crippen's basement was not Belle's. But that wasn't even the weirdest part.
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It was determined following this test by this forensic scientist that the body in Dr. Crippen's basement wasn't even female, it was a male. But to this day, no one has ever been able to identify who that body was and Belle was never found. All we know is an innocent man, Dr. Crippen, was put to death for something he didn't do. Thank you for listening to the Mr. Ballin Podcast.
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Also, Belle would basically spend all of Dr. Crippen's money on her very expensive wardrobe. And so Dr. Crippen is just so annoyed. He's sitting on the couch and he's watching as Belle has now stood up in her big flowing pink evening dress. And she's regaling the guests with this big story of hers.
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And at some point, she just kind of transitions from telling the story to performing this bizarre song and dance routine that was the story. It's like she came up with a play in real time and performed it for the guests. And the dinner guests who were watching this performance, their names were Paul and Clara, they were totally entranced by what Belle was doing. They thought it was incredible.
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Paul and Clara were both theater people like Belle was. Paul was a former comedian, and Clara worked with Belle at their charity, which was called the Music Hall Ladies Guild. And so Dr. Crippen just kind of scowled as the two dinner guests applauded really loudly for Belle's big performance. And Belle, you know, she smiled and kind of giggled and then sat down and said, thank you so much.
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And then, you know, Dr. Crippen, he's thinking, okay, now that she's done with this performance, we can finally play the card game that I really want to play. But Dr. Crippen, after grabbing his cards, looked around and could tell that they were not going to play cards. The big performance by his wife had eaten up all the rest of their time. And now it was too late and the guests had to leave.
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Before Dr. Crippen could even stand up to begin picking up in the room to get ready for this visit to end, Bell, his wife, was demanding he go outside and get their guests a horse and carriage to bring them back home. And so Dr. Crippen just kind of put his head down and said, okay.
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And as he was walking towards the front door to get the horse and carriage, Bell yelled after him, and don't get one of those cheap ones, get an expensive one, a nice one. Dr. Crippen just kind of rolled his eyes, but said, okay. And then he walked outside. But despite looking all over the place, there were no nice horse and carriages.
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It was just the kind of loud, rickety, bad ones that his wife did not want him to get. But after looking all over the place for a full hour and not finding a nice one, Dr. Crippen finally just had to hail one of the bad horse and carriages. He called them over and then he went back inside and he told the guests, okay, I got your horse and carriage. And so they came outside and so did Belle.
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And Belle's looking at this carriage after this long delay and it's this terrible carriage. And she just stares at Dr. Crippen furious. The guests don't seem to mind. They just walk down the stairs. They get in their carriage. They say goodbye and they take off. But the second Dr. Crippen had turned back around, Bell was already back inside their home.
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And so he knows, you know, as soon as he goes in there, he's going to get yelled at. And so he went inside the home, and in the living room was Belle, arms folded, just staring at him, absolutely furious.
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And she began laying into him about not only how ridiculous it was that it took him a whole hour to find the carriage, and it was a terrible carriage, something she said not to do, and she told him that he was the reason their whole dinner party had been a total disaster. Even though Dr. Crippen was like, I think it went pretty well.
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But in Belle's mind, you know, her husband was the reason this party had totally failed. He was boring. He didn't contribute anything. And she told him that she caught that he did not applaud nearly as loudly as Paul and Clara had for her big performance. And that really hurt her feelings. When Dr. Crippen just didn't say anything, he just kind of knew to keep his head down and let his wife talk.
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You know, when that happened, Belle got so frustrated, she kind of huffed and then turned around and walked over to the mantelpiece. And she took this framed photo that she shamelessly left up in their house that was of her former lover who she openly had had an affair with. It was this beautifully handsome, square-jawed prizefighter who, again, Dr. Crippen knew his wife had cheated on him with.
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And so Belle, she takes this photo and she holds it up and she points right at him and she looks at her husband and says, you know, I can get any man I want. Look right here. I can get him if I want to. I don't need you. But Dr. Crippen was not affected by this. He was completely used to being treated this way by Belle. And so again, he just stayed silent and took what she was throwing at him.
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And so again, Belle gets even more frustrated because she's not getting a reaction from Dr. Crippen. She finally just goes, you know what? I'm going to leave you tomorrow. I'm done with you. I can't be with you. It's over. And again, Dr. Crippen just didn't react. I mean, this really was typical behavior for his wife, even this threat of leaving him tomorrow.
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You know, she had done this before, but never followed through on it. It was just kind of like Dr. Crippen was her punching bag, basically 24-7. And so for now, all Dr. Crippen really wanted was for his wife to just stop ranting and raving so he could just go to bed. He didn't really care what she was saying. Frankly, he wouldn't even care if she did leave him the next day.
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He was totally unhappy in this marriage, as obviously she was, but he was so scared of scandal, he couldn't bring himself to divorce his wife. But if she actually followed through and left him, he'd be free. The marriage would be over and it would be her fault. And so Dr. Crippen just stood there waiting for his wife to finish. But it was clear she had a lot to say.
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Even after threatening to leave him, she just kept on laying into him about all his faults. And then at some point, Dr. Crippen just totally caught her off guard by interjecting and saying, hey, Belle, do you want some whiskey? And Belle just kind of stopped and stared at her husband inquisitively. And then it was like her whole mood changed.
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And she was like, actually, yeah, I'll take some whiskey. So Dr. Crippen said, great, I'll go make it. And he walked over to the liquor cabinet and he poured both of them a drink. Two days later, the members of the charity that Belle and Clara, the dinner guests, were a part of, the Music Hall Ladies Guild, they were all sitting in their office in London waiting to start their meeting.
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But there was a problem. Belle, who was their treasurer and therefore needed to be at this meeting, was not at this meeting. She was late and nobody knew where she was. And so after they sat in this office for a while, just waiting, they finally heard a knock on the door.
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And so one of the women got up, they opened up the door, and standing outside is Dr. Crippen's assistant, this young woman named Ethel. And she looked kind of frazzled and maybe a little bit out of breath, and she was carrying a letter and a package in her hands. And so Ethel would tell the woman who opened the door that she was here on behalf of Dr. Crippen and also Belle.
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And so the woman who opened the door said, okay, come on in. And so Ethel walked into the office and she placed the letter and the package on the table. And then she quickly turned around and left. After she was gone, the guild members kind of looked at each other confused and then just reached out and they grabbed the letter. They opened it up and they read it.
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And the letter was written by Dr. Crippen, and he was telling the members of this guild that unfortunately, one of Belle's family members back in America had fallen ill, and so Belle had to go back to America and take care of this person, and she'd be gone for at least several months.
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And then when they opened up the package that Ethel had dropped off, that contained the guild's checkbook and also their ledger. That way, they'd be able to go out and find a new treasurer to replace Belle. And so when they had finished reading this letter and seeing the contents of this package, the members of this guild just kind of looked at each other, not really sure what to do.
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You know, it seemed odd that Belle had not told them she was doing this, that she had left without saying goodbye. But at the same time, it seemed like whatever she was dealing with in America was very serious. And so they decided the only thing they could do was to just hire a temporary treasurer and wait for Belle to come back.
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About three weeks later, Clara and the rest of the Ladies Guild members hosted their annual ball. And like always, they invited Belle as well as her husband, Dr. Crippen, even though they knew, you know, this invitation was kind of a formality because Belle was still in America. But Dr. Crippen would show up to this ball and he would not show up alone. And it caused a bit of an outrage.
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On Dr. Crippen's arm was very obviously his date, Ethel, his assistant, the young woman who had dropped off that letter in the package to the members of the Guild about Belle's sudden departure. Clara stared incredulously at Dr. Crippen and Ethel as they kind of swayed around the room dancing. I mean, Clara just could not understand what was going through Dr. Crippen's head.
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How could he possibly think it was appropriate to so openly cheat on his wife around all of his wife's friends and in such a public place? It just seemed unfathomable that anybody would do what Dr. Crippen was doing.
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And so that night, Clara and the other members of the Ladies Guild, they got together and they decided that, you know, because of Dr. Crippen's obvious infidelity, they could not invite him to be a part of anything to do with the Ladies Guild, at least not until they talked to Belle again when she got back.
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But Belle didn't come back, and she never wrote to any of the members of the Guild or any of her friends. She just disappeared. And on March 20th, 1910, so roughly two months after Bell supposedly fled to America, Dr. Crippen came out and said he had just gotten some terrible news. It would turn out his wife, Bell, had fallen ill while in America, and she had died.
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You know, he played a role in her disappearance. He had to. So one of the members of this guild went to the police and reported Belle missing. However, at first, the police were not inclined to pursue this case because from their perspective, there was no evidence of a crime committed here. All they knew was this woman, Belle, had died in America, supposedly from natural causes.
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And so the only thing that was contrary to that were Belle's friends who basically were saying, well, you know, maybe she was murdered by her husband because her husband was cheating on her. And the police were like, that doesn't line up. Just because he was cheating on her does not mean he killed her.
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But Bell's friends continued to keep the pressure on police, and finally, after three months, the police would assign a detective.
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His name was Walter Dew, and Inspector Dew had been a detective for more than 20 years, and he had even worked on the very famous serial killer case, Jack the Ripper, and had been one of the people who actually found the last body, although the Jack the Ripper case had gone unsolved.
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Jacob Cockle always loved the water. He grew up in a town called Penzance in the UK, and he spent virtually all of his time surfing at one of their beaches. By the time he was 10 years old, he started skipping school to go surfing and started getting in a lot of trouble for that.
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But despite his parents' and his teachers' frustrations with him, there was always one person that had his back and totally understood him, and that was his older sister, Grace. They were so close, they developed their own special language they talked to each other in. And Jacob used it so much that people actually thought he had a speech problem.
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But when Jacob was 17, his life was turned upside down when Grace was diagnosed with a brain tumor and she died very quickly after that. This had a profound impact on Jacob. It was like his entire view of the world had totally changed overnight. And he began to believe that Grace's energy had been transferred to him and that it was now his duty to live for the two of them.
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And so what this translated to is Jacob began taking lots and lots of risks because he felt like he didn't want to pass up opportunities. He wanted to live life to the fullest, even if it was a little bit reckless. In addition to loving the water, Jacob also loved photography. And so with this new risk-taking attitude, he began doing these water-based stunts and filming himself in the process.
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Things like surfing in storms or leaping off of buildings into fairly shallow water or diving to dangerous depths on a breath hold. And Jacob loved it. He loved taking these risks. He loved filming himself taking these risks. And so he decided this was going to be his career. He was going to be a world famous photographer that specialized in dangerous photos and films.
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And so Jacob got this big piece of paper and he put it on his bedroom wall. And with black marker, he wrote himself a reminder, I will become a world famous photographer and I will let nothing stand in my way. Basically, he was prepared to go to any length to get the shots that he needed to get. And this intense attitude worked.
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By his early 20s, he had won major awards with National Geographic and the Sunday Times. He was also a regular contributor to surf magazines where he almost always got the cover shot. Most of his award-winning pictures were taken of the sea in its most violent and turbulent forms. The money Jacob earned from these competitions he spent on improving his photography equipment.
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If he was ever given a physical prize like a brand new TV, he would just give it away to his friends. Because all Jacob was really focused on was going out and living life to the fullest and taking crazy chances and capturing those experiences on film. And one crazy experience that he had always wanted to capture on film actually took place right in his hometown of Penzance.
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A very strong whirlpool would appear a few times a year in a harbor that was right near his childhood home. It was just a quirk of engineering designed to keep the harbor from silting up. At high tide, the water would come in and it would hit this quay wall. And at the bottom of the quay wall was a tunnel that fed into this other pool. And so that would fill up with water.
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And then when the tide retreated during low tide, the water in the harbor would drain out and the water from the pool would slowly filter out back through this tunnel, pushing the silt and sand out of the harbor.
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But sometimes when the water came into the harbor during high tide, it would come in so quickly it would build up against the quay wall and it wouldn't drain fast enough down through that tunnel into the pool. And so just like in your bathtub, if you pull the plug when it's full, you'll see a whirlpool form as the water is sucked down the drain.
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The same thing would happen at this quay wall as all this water is being forced down and sucked through this pipe. It would create this huge whirlpool that you could see on the surface from the quay wall. And even though this whirlpool only formed a couple of times a year, it was so dangerous.
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There were caution signs all around the edge of the harbor and on the quay wall telling people to stay out of the water. But in his mid-20s, Jacob ignored those signs and he started jumping into this whirlpool every time it formed. And he was able to kind of swirl around the outside and he would film it inside and just on top.
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And he would upload his videos to YouTube and they would get millions and millions of views. They were totally beautiful and terrifying at the same time. On May 28th, 2013, when Jacob was 28 years old, he noticed that the whirlpool was back in his hometown and he wanted to go out and film inside of it again.
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And so he ran to his friend David's house and he asked him to, hey, come down to the harbor and film me inside of this whirlpool. And so by the time David got his stuff together and made it to the quay wall, he looked down and he saw Jacob was already in the whirlpool swirling around.
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David also noticed that Jacob was wearing a rubber horse head mask and he told David the reason he was doing it is because it would be more eye-catching on YouTube. So David leaned over the wall and began filming Jacob as he swirled around this whirlpool in his horse mask making neighing sounds And at some point, Jacob stopped and he swam away from the whirlpool.
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But you could see the pull of the whirlpool was very strong because even with flippers on, Jacob really struggled to swim away from this whirlpool. But he was in good spirits about it. And he was laughing with David and saying how when he first jumped in, he was actually pretty scared of this whirlpool. It's definitely the strongest one he had been in over at this quay wall.
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And David would say, yeah, I can tell from up here that one's really strong. For the next 10 or 15 minutes, David and Jacob kind of joke back and forth about the strength of the whirlpool, and Jacob would put his mask back down and swirl around inside of the whirlpool, then get out again.
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And then towards the end of the video, Jacob yells up to David that he only has one more thing in mind that he wants to do with the whirlpool. He wants to dive down below and film it from underneath. And so he asked David to hand down his camera. David hands it down and you see Jacob adjusting his camera. And then he dives below the surface to begin filming this whirlpool.
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And so David's up on the top watching Jacob and he's very familiar with Jacob. He knows he does things like this. He knows he has a great breath hold, but after a couple of minutes, when he doesn't reemerge, David gets scared and starts yelling for him. And when he still doesn't come up, David turns and runs to the other side of the quay wall and looks over that railing towards the poolside.
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And he can see the water is still rushing into the pool and there's no sign of Jacob. And so he ran back and forth a couple of times and he didn't see Jacob until finally he went back to the poolside and he saw Jacob down below. He was lying face down in the water. So David ran down and waited out to him, but it was already too late. Jacob had drowned.
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The reason Jacob was able to swirl around at the top of this whirlpool and not get pulled under is because he had a wetsuit on and wetsuits are buoyant. But as you go underneath the water, the deeper you go, the water pressure pushes against your wetsuit and it reduces the overall buoyancy of your wetsuit.
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And so when Jacob dove down into this whirlpool, the pressure pushed against the suit, he lost his buoyancy, and then he got caught up in the current of this very strong whirlpool, and he was pulled slowly down to the bottom.
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And so he probably fought as much as he could to try to get out of there, but he couldn't, and eventually was forced into that tunnel underneath the quay wall, and he was under there until he drowned, and then he was eventually spit out the other side. The next and final story of today's episode is called The Fixer Upper.
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On May 28th, 1986, a Florida real estate agent named Marguerite Welty walked up to the front door of this little white stucco home sitting right on the edge of Lake Placid in Florida.
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Marguerite pulled out a key from her pocket, she unlocked the door, opened it up, and then she turned around and standing right in front of her were her clients, this young couple named Lois and Richard Goodman who were thinking about buying a vacation home. And so this was one of the homes they were checking out. And so Marguerite smiled at her clients and gestured for them to come inside.
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The house sat at the end of a quiet, shady street lined with huge trees and other small vacation homes. And a lot of these vacation homes were perfectly manicured and beautiful, but the house they were touring today was not. It was unmaintained and overgrown. You know, the paint was chipped and fading. It just looked bad.
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because the owner of this property at one time had used this house as their vacation home, but lately they had just kind of stopped coming out here, and so they really never came out to check on the property, and so it definitely had the look of an abandoned property.
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And now the owner didn't even know if they could fix it anymore, and so they decided they would just sell it and let somebody else deal with it. And so Marguerite led Richard and Lois into the house and she brought them right into the carpeted living room. And the house was very musky and dark. You know, all the windows were shut and all the blinds were drawn.
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And so Marguerite kind of instinctively walked over to the windows and began opening up the curtains and opening up the blinds, letting sunlight into the house. And so as this room is suddenly being lit up by the sunlight, behind her, Marguerite hears Lois and Richard start to laugh at something.
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And so Marguerite turned around to see what was so funny, and when she saw what Lois and Richard were laughing at, Marguerite did not think it was very funny. In fact, she thought the fact that they were laughing right now was kind of rude, especially when you considered what this couple had asked of Marguerite. They had come to Marguerite and said, hey, we want to buy a vacation home.
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It needs to be perfect. It needs to be on the water. It needs to have this and this and this. But we have a tiny budget. Go find us homes. And so Marguerite had really struggled to find vacation homes that were in their budget. But then she had found this diamond in the rough, this house on the coast of Lake Placid. It had three bedrooms, two bathrooms. It had a garage, direct access to the water.
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It even had a boat dock. I mean, this house was perfect. Now, of course, this house had obvious downsides, like the fact that it was clearly a fixer-upper. I mean, anybody who bought this home would have to put a lot of work into just making it livable again. And then also, there was a distinct weird vibe about the property itself.
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Because the owner was never there, they had covered all the furniture inside of this home with white sheets, which kind of gave it a sort of haunted house vibe. And then also, there was virtually nothing of value inside of this home, because again, the owner was like never here. But for some reason, there was this super intense security system on the house.
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I mean, there was cameras everywhere, and the windows had metal bars over them. And so the aesthetic inside and outside this house was not a good one. But again, you know, Marguerite felt like if they could just look past the negative stuff, this was really the perfect place for them. But now here Marguerite's clients were laughing away at the kind of goofy interior of this home.
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It's like they were being totally disrespectful both to Marguerite and frankly to the owner of this property. I mean, this is a good opportunity. What are you doing? But ultimately, Marguerite couldn't force her clients to be appreciative of this.
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And so she just kind of laughed along with them, but then very quickly changed the subject and told them, you know, hey, let's go walk around the rest of the house. Make sure you see the whole place before you pass judgment. But Marguerite only had to lead Richard and Lois around the house for a couple more minutes to figure out they definitely were not in the market for this house.
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They could not look past the bizarre kind of spooky almost atmosphere inside the house and how run down it was. You know, so they were just not going to put an offer on this house and Marguerite knew it. And so even though Marguerite was definitely frustrated, she told her clients, you know, don't worry about it. I'll go back to the drawing board.
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I'll find more properties and we'll check those out. And so Marguerite led Richard and Lois out of the property, she shut and locked the door behind her, and then she and her clients left. Two days later, on May 30th, 1986, the owner of this rundown old vacation home came by to check on the property. basically because they were trying to sell it.
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They just wanted to go up and make sure there were no obviously bad things about the property. They knew it was in rough shape, but, you know, they're just doing a sanity check. And so they get to this property, they open up the door, and they step inside, and right away, the owner is hit with this horrible smell.
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Now the owner knew it normally did not smell great inside this home, but this smell he was smelling now was just so bad. It was so pungent. He knew it was not normal. And so the owner began walking around the house trying to figure out where the smell was coming from.
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And at some point he found himself in the living room and his eyes happened to land on the thing that Richard and Lois Goodman had been laughing at two days earlier. Except when the owner saw this thing, he didn't think it was funny at all. In fact, what he did is he instantly turned around, ran out of the house, grabbed a phone, and called 911.
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on August 17, 2020, a police sergeant named Kevin Bingham was sitting inside of his cruiser in a parking lot in Scottsdale, Arizona, with the windows rolled down, when he heard a strange sound. He couldn't place exactly what it was. At first, it sort of sounded like a woman screaming, but then it kind of morphed into more of like a screech, like a cat would make in a fight.
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Four days earlier, on May 26th, a 28 year old man named Thomas Lopez Ruiz, who was living in this makeshift campsite down by the water near Lake Placid, he decided to leave his campsite and go into town to try to earn some money. Thomas did not have a steady job. Instead, he did odd jobs in town whenever he could to earn a few bucks. But on this day, when Thomas went into town, there was no work.
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So Thomas decided he would go rob one of the many vacation homes along the coastline of Lake Placid. And the home that he picked is the same vacation home that Marguerite would take the Goodmans to two days later. And so Thomas arrives in front of this overgrown property and he tries the doors and they're all locked. However, Thomas had a plan. Thomas was a pretty small guy.
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He was about five foot, two inches tall, only weighed about 140 pounds. And so he figured he could just slip through the chimney. That's how he could break into the house. And at first it went great. You know, he slipped in no problem. And before long he was making his way down towards the inside of the house.
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But what Thomas realized as he went down the chimney is the chimney was not perfectly straight up and down. Instead, it was sort of tapered, where at the top it was wide, but the deeper you got, so the farther down you went in the chimney, the narrower the inside of the chimney got. And so when Thomas was almost all the way down the chimney, he got stuck.
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He could not get the rest of the way down, but where he got stuck, he couldn't grab the top of the chimney. He couldn't pull himself out. And so he is absolutely wedged, can't go down, can't go up. And making matters even worse was every time he exhaled, his chest would shrink a little bit and that would cause him to slip a little bit farther, a little bit deeper into the chimney.
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And then when he would try to breathe in again, his chest would not be able to fully expand again. And so basically, every second that went by, Thomas was sinking lower and lower and lower by little bits, making it harder and harder and harder to breathe. And you got to figure that he was screaming for help, which again was causing him to breathe a bunch, causing him to sink even farther.
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And so it would have made breathing extremely difficult. And so Thomas is like in this absolute claustrophobic nightmare. And without outside help, he had no chance of survival.
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Two days later, Marguerite Welty brought the Goodmans into that property and she would open up the blinds and sunlight would come into the living room and Marguerite would hear Lois and Richard laughing at something and she would turn around and she would see they were pointing at the fireplace and visible in this fireplace were two legs dangling down inside the chimney.
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They were not so far down that they were touching the ground. They were just kind of suspended in the air. And Lois and Richard, based on the way the house looked already, you know, the kind of spooky vibe, you know, there's white sheets over all the furniture. There are these bars on all the windows. Everything is dark and dirty and kind of gross.
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But at the same time, this sound was sort of echoey, almost like it was in a cave or something. But Sergeant Bingham is looking around him and, you know, there's a school and a baseball field. There's houses and apartment buildings. I mean, he's in a typical American neighborhood. There's no caves anywhere near him.
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Like there's this haunted house vibe to this place. And they're thinking this must be a Halloween decoration or some sort of prank.
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you know a mannequin kind of jammed up into the chimney maybe to look like a robber breaking into your house or something that the owner never took down because clearly the owner stopped taking care of this property and so it kind of makes sense that these decorations would be left out and so lois and richard are laughing at this halloween decoration and marguerite she looks at the legs too and also thinks they're just some halloween decoration doesn't think anything of it and so finally they end up leaving and that was it
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But as I'm sure you all have guessed, of course those legs were not mannequin legs. Those were Thomas's legs. And in fact, the creepiest part about this is Thomas may have been alive during the house tour. The autopsy showed he actually did not die of asphyxiation, so he didn't suffocate. He died from dehydration, which takes about two days, and this house tour was about two days in.
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And the day prior to the house tour, a neighbor had been outside and they thought they heard someone yelling inside of the property. But for some reason, you know, the neighbor just didn't do anything about it. And so there's a pretty good chance Thomas was barely alive as they were touring the house.
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But, you know, by the time the owner came back two days later and smelled that horrible smell, Thomas had passed away. And that smell was the smell of his body decomposing. Also, just to close the loop on this, it's not clear why the homeowner had that really aggressive security system with the bars on the windows. He just did. A quick note about our stories.
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They are all based on true events, but we sometimes use pseudonyms to protect the people involved, and some details are fictionalized for dramatic purposes. to find all of these shows. To watch hundreds more stories just like the ones you heard today, head over to our YouTube channel, which is just called Mr. Ballin. So, that's going to do it. I really appreciate your support.
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But regardless of where specifically this noise was originating from, what was clear to Sergeant Bingham is that whoever or whatever was making this noise sounded like they needed help. And so he decided he would go investigate. So Sergeant Bingham left the parking lot, turned right onto the road and began driving roughly in the direction of the sound.
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But again, remember the sound is kind of echoey. It's very hard to place where it's coming from. But as he continued driving down this road, Sergeant Bingham realized the noise was getting louder. And so he must be getting closer. And so just ahead of Sergeant Bingham at the end of this road is this huge health club.
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There's a big fitness center, and then behind it, kind of attached to it, was an outdoor pool area. And then surrounding the pool area was a 12-foot-tall brick fence. And so Sergeant Bingham thought, you know, based on the proximity to this noise, you know, maybe the sound, the screeching sound, is coming from somewhere in this health club.
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And so Sergeant Bingham drives up to the health club, parks his cruiser, he gets out, turns on his flashlight, and right away he hears more screeching and immediately Sergeant Bingham can tell it's coming from inside of the enclosed pool area behind that 12 foot tall wall. And so Sergeant Bingham can't see into the pool area, but again, he can tell, you know, whatever it is, it's in there.
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And also, at the same time he's kind of pinpointing the sound, he can tell that this noise, this screeching sound, really doesn't sound like an animal. It sounds like a person.
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And so Sergeant Bingham runs up to the brick wall and he listens really intently to see if maybe in addition to the screeching sound, if he can hear, you know, splashing sounds or some other activity inside of the pool area that would kind of give away what's actually happening. You know, maybe somebody snuck in after hours and now they're struggling to swim in one of these pools.
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But as he strained to listen, all he heard over and over again was the screeching sound, but nothing else. There's no splashing. There's no other activity. It's just the screeching sound. And so as Sergeant Bingham was wondering how he was going to get into this pool area to see what was going on, he looked over and he saw there were two gym cleaners coming out of the fitness center.
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And so Sergeant Bingham ran over to them and he asked them like, hey, are you the only two that are working in this health club right now? Or is there somebody out in the pool area? And the cleaners looked at Sergeant Bingham and just shook their head and said, no, we are the only ones working right now. And we've been listening to that screeching sound too. We don't know what it is.
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And the third and final story you'll hear is called The Fixer Upper, and it's about a horrifying discovery a man makes after checking on his house that's for sale.
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and then shortly after they said this to sergeant bingham suddenly the noises the screeching sounds changed and it went from just being these guttural high-pitched screeches to somebody yelling out a single word help and so the second sergeant bingham heard this he grabbed his radio and called for backup
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About two minutes later, another officer showed up and right away the cleaners opened up the doors to the fitness center and Bingham and the other officer ran inside. They cut through the huge gym to the very back where there were doors that led out to the pool area. And this pool area is huge. It's actually the biggest part of this health club.
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And so they open up the doors, they go outside, and both officers are expecting to, you know, see this person that's calling out for help. But instead, once they get outside, it's eerily silent and there's absolutely no activity anywhere. Right in front of them are these two pools. There's this huge lap pool, no one's in it, the water is calm.
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And then next to it is another pool, a smaller pool that has a water playground right in the middle of it, but that one as well is devoid of people and totally calm. And so the officers are looking at each other like, where is this person that clearly was calling for help a second ago? But just then the cries for help began again.
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And this time they were able to kind of pinpoint where it was coming from. It was coming from a third pool, kind of in the back of the pool area, beyond these two pools and beyond some cabanas. There was this third shallow pool with two water slides going into it. And from the sound of these screeches, it sounded very much like this person must be in or near these slides.
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And so at this point, Sergeant Bingham became a little bit skeptical that whoever this was really needed help. He felt like it was more likely that, you know, somebody had just snuck in after hours who maybe was high on drugs or mentally ill, and now they're just kind of causing a scene inside one of the slides.
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Or maybe it's somebody who snuck in just to play a prank, to screw with the cops and act like they were in trouble when they really weren't. And so Sergeant Bingham looks at the other officer and they kind of are like, okay, let's go see what's going on here. And they make their way over to the slides. And when they got there, you know, there's two slides.
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There's one slide, which is blue, and it's an open top. So if you were sliding down it, you'd be visible the entire time you're on the slide. And there's nobody on this slide. So whoever is making these sounds, they're not on or in the blue slide. But the other slide, the red slide, was a tube slide. And so if you were going down the slide, you'd be hidden inside the tube.
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And so both officers are thinking, OK, the person who's yelling out for help has got to be inside of this red slide. And so the two officers went to the base of the red slide and they looked up inside of it, but they couldn't see anyone. But it was a big enough slide that it was possible they were, you know, just beyond their line of sight.
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And so Sergeant Bingham just yelled in like, hey, are you OK? And the person did respond to this. but they didn't respond with words. They just responded with more screeching. And so Sergeant Bingham tells the other officer, you know, hey, stay right here at the foot of the slide. I'm gonna go up and go down the slide. We'll meet in the middle.
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We'll find this person and we'll get them out of here. And so the other officer stays put and Sergeant Bingham goes to the stairs. He makes his way up to the top of the platform that led to both slides. He went to the top of the red slide and he looked down into it, but he couldn't see anybody. But again, the slide was long enough.
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You know, it's possible that from both sides, looking up and looking down, your line of sight would not allow you to see the person right in the middle. And so Sergeant Bingham yelled into the slide like, hey, I'm coming down and my partner's coming up. We're going to find you here. Like if you're in there, go down, get out of the slide. But again, the response they got was not words.
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So if that's of interest to you, the next time you take the Amazon Music Follow button camping with you, offer to set up their tent and then immediately pitch it directly on a fire. Okay, let's get into our first story called The Whale.
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It was just more guttural screaming and moaning. And so feeling kind of annoyed, Sergeant Bingham gets his flashlight and aims it straight ahead of him. And he begins slowly making his way down the slide. And at the same time, his partner at the bottom began making his way up the slide. So as they're doing it, both officers are yelling like, hey, if you're in here, we're coming in. Like, let's go.
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You got to get out of here. But again, all they're hearing is more screaming. And as the officers get closer and closer to the middle, they're expecting to see someone. But then suddenly both officers come face to face right in the middle of this red slide and there's nobody there. It's just them. And so at this point, both officers are totally freaked out. This did not make sense.
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They've been listening to this person screaming out for the last few minutes, and it sounded so much like they were in this slide. Like, how could they not be? And so Sergeant Bingham and the other officer get out of the slide and they start screaming out for this person like, hey, tell us where you are. But in response, they just continued to get more and more desperate sounding screeches.
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And it sounded like the screeches really were in this red slide or at least somewhere really close by. But there's no one anywhere near them. There's nowhere for this person to be. It didn't make any sense. And so having no other ideas, Sergeant Bingham went over to the blue slide, the open top slide that very clearly nobody is on. But he hopped on it and thought, let me just check.
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And he began going up the slide. Now, this slide was not a straight slide. It actually went around in the middle like a corkscrew. And so as Sergeant Bingham began walking up the slide, the slide began to turn. And so he began walking along this corkscrew section of the slide on the way to the top.
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And about halfway up the corkscrew section, when he's basically halfway up the slide, Sergeant Bingham just stopped and just kind of scanned around because now he's at a higher position, you know, a better vantage point across this outdoor area. And he's looking all around him, despite still hearing these screams coming out of what feels like right where he is.
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He doesn't see anybody, but then right as he's about to continue going up the slide, something catches his eye just below him. And he stops and he kind of leans over the edge of this blue slide and looks straight down and he could not believe what he saw.
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It would turn out earlier that night, so right before 1220 a.m., which is when Sergeant Bingham first heard that screeching sound, a 32-year-old man named Ryan Kelly, who was naked and high on meth, snuck into the pool area. He climbed over that wall, jumped inside, and eventually he found his way over to the stairs that led up to the platform that allowed you to go down the red and blue slides.
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And once he got up there, instead of, you know, sliding down the slide, he began walking down that blue slide, the open top slide that has a corkscrew section in the middle. He began walking down it, and when he got about halfway down it, around the part where it began to corkscrew, he stopped and at some point must have looked around him and noticed
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there was a support beam basically running from the ground straight up basically as high as the blue slide was, where there were all these arms branching off of it that supported the corkscrew section of the slide. It was just holding the corkscrew up. And from where Ryan was standing, he would have had the ability to see the top of this beam.
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And he would have seen that the top of this beam was open. It was a round beam with about an 18-inch diameter across. And to any sane person, it would be very apparent that you're not supposed to go inside of this support beam. But Ryan, being high on meth, decided he would go inside of this support beam. He climbed up to the top of it and then wedged his feet into this narrow opening.
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And Ryan's a pretty skinny guy. He's naked. He's slick with sweat. And he began lowering himself into this pipe, this hollow pipe that goes all the way to the ground. And after he got his feet in there and his legs in there, you know, he's forcing himself down, he finally got most of his torso in. And then he would have realized his hands would not be able to fit unless he put them over his head.
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And so he put his arms over his head and just continued to wiggle himself down into this pipe. And at some point, probably around the time that his shoulders cleared the pipe, he kind of slipped pretty quickly about halfway down the pipe. Not to the ground, basically suspended right in the middle of this tiny, tight pipe.
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Now, we don't know for sure if Ryan intended to get out of this pipe at some point, but once he was about halfway down the pipe with his arms up over his head, there was absolutely no way he could get himself out again. There was just nowhere to pull or anything. He's completely wedged, barely able to breathe. And on top of that, he's in Arizona. It's one of the hottest places in the world.
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And on top of that, they were experiencing a heat wave and his body, his naked body is pressed all against the inside of this metal pipe that conducts heat. And so he's basically in this really tight space cooking alive and there's no way to get out.
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And so at some point, as Ryan is likely realizing that he is completely screwed here and he's beginning to literally cook to death, he began trying to scream out for help, but he was likely in so much pain and also, again, under the influence of meth that he couldn't quite yell out words. He just let out those horrible screeching sounds, and those were the noises that Sergeant Bingham heard.
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But then when Sergeant Bingham and his partner got into the pool area, they were able to identify roughly where Ryan was stuck. But Ryan, again, couldn't make words. He's so messed up, he's in so much pain that he just continued to scream.
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And because he was in that pipe, it kind of created this weird echoey phenomenon where when he would scream out, his voice would come out of the pipe and almost kind of get thrown around the park. That's why Sergeant Bingham and the other officer couldn't quite figure out where he was. And at one point, it sounded like he was in that red slide, when obviously he wasn't.
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And so finally, at some point, Sergeant Bingham walked up the blue slide. He's halfway up. He's hearing Ryan screaming. And he turns and he looks down. And from his perspective, where he was standing, he was looking down into that pipe. And looking up at him, inside of this pipe is Ryan, arms up over his head, wide-eyed, screeching, trying to be saved.
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But unfortunately for Ryan, his rescue was a very technically difficult thing to pull off. He was too far down the pipe for anyone to reach him to pull him up. And when they threw a rope down to him inside of the pipe, Ryan was too weak to grab onto the rope. And so for hours and hours, rescue crews tried to get Ryan out.
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And a key to her front door was laying conspicuously on her bedside table. The women fled the house and called police, but when they showed up, there really wasn't much they could do, despite knowing about Cindy's threatening phone call she was getting. There was just no clear sign of who broke into her house and cut up her pillows.
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And so they told her that the best thing she can do is change her locks, make sure everything in her house stays locked at all times when she's home, and if she notices anything out of the ordinary, to call back.
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Over the following few days, Cindy got more threatening phone calls and began waking up to threatening notes laying on her front porch that had been made from newspaper and magazine clippings. This led to the police launching a larger investigation into the matter. An officer named Pat McBride, who had been on the force for eight years, began checking in on Cindy almost daily.
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And very quickly, Pat and Cindy developed a romantic relationship, and Pat actually moved into Cindy's house while he was investigating this case. As soon as Pat moved in, the harassment seemed to stop. But just a couple of weeks later in early November, Pat woke up one morning at Cindy's house and discovered that her phone lines were dead.
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When he went outside to investigate, he discovered that the lines had actually been cut and he found a pair of wire cutters laying on the ground.
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Over the following month, in addition to the threatening phone calls and notes left on her porch, Cindy began hearing somebody walking around outside her house at night, but she was always too terrified to go to the window and look outside to see who it was.
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She began finding raw meat sitting outside of her door in the morning, and she would find pictures of dead bodies tucked under her windshield wiper on her car. One day, she walked into her backyard and she discovered three dead cats hanging in her gardens. Cindy, who was a bubbly, happy person before the harassment started, had become a totally anxious and paranoid mess.
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Cullen was 6'2", 240 pounds, and he would tell his teammates that he wanted to get hit, and he would hit back. And his coaches hated it about him, but his teammates loved this about him. Cullen was also famous for playing through injuries. His junior year in college, he broke his collarbone, and he didn't tell anyone, and he played through an entire playoff series that he won.
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But despite her obvious distress, the local police were starting to doubt her claims that the stalker was even real. Every time she called them claiming stalker activity, they would go to her house and look around, but they could never find any evidence to suggest that anyone besides her, her friends, or her boyfriend had been there.
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And speaking of her boyfriend, police officer Pat McBride, he would tell his co-workers that he was never home when the stalker called and he never heard anybody walking around outside of her house. He said the only reason he knew about these things is because Cindy told him after the fact.
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Upset that the police were not taking her seriously, Cindy broke up with Pat and decided she needed to move and start over in another town. Just days before Cindy was supposed to relocate, her friend Agnes stopped by.
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When she went to the front door and knocked and there was no answer, she walked around to the back and she found her friend crouched down behind the stairs as if she was hiding from something. She ran over to her and noticed she had this black nylon stocking wrapped tightly around her neck. But Cindy seemed to be totally unfazed by it and just kept looking out towards her shed.
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And so Agnes runs over to Cindy and says, Cindy, what are you doing? What's on your neck? And Cindy turned to look at her and her eyes were super wide and she was panicked. And she told Agnes that just minutes ago she had been walking out to her shed to get something when a man leapt out of the shadows and wrapped this nylon around her neck and began choking her.
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and threatened that if she turned around to look at him, he would attack her family. So Cindy and this man struggled for a minute until Agnes' car approached, which spooked the man, and he ran off. Agnes was shocked, and she grabbed her friend and picked her up. She pulled the nylon off of her neck, and the two of them ran inside and locked all the doors and windows.
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And then at that point, Cindy called the police. But when the police showed up, the only evidence of this attack was Cindy's first-hand account and this nylon stocking. but the police believed the nylon stocking was Cindy's, and she had staged the whole event, and she had tied it around her neck herself.
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A few days later, in January of 1983, Cindy moved into a new home in a town called Richmond, which is a suburb of Vancouver, Canada, and as soon as she got there, she painted her car a new color, and she actually changed her last name to James. For months, she didn't see or hear from her stalker.
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But in October of that year, she found another dead cat on her property with a note next to it that just said, you're next. Fearing for her life, she called the Richmond police who set up a surveillance operation on her property. But for months, despite dozens of officers watching her house at practically all hours, they never ever saw any stalker activity.
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But as soon as the officers left, for any amount of time when there was a gap in surveillance, Cindy would call the police and report stalker activity. In time, this town's police department also began to suspect that Cindy was fabricating the stalker story and they told her as much.
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Now, blatantly knowing the police were not taking her seriously, Cindy hired a local private detective named Ozzy Caban to look into her case. Immediately, he installed floodlights all around her property and he gave her a two-way radio to place inside of her house that constantly broadcast back to Ozzy.
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That way, if she was in trouble, he would know about it even if she couldn't get to the radio to actually tell him. He also installed a panic button inside of her house that would send an alarm to him as well as to the police. In January of 1984, after only being on the case for a couple of weeks, Ozzy heard some strange sounds coming across the two-way radio.
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After college, Cullen's professional football career was not nearly as successful as his amateur one. He played briefly for two NFL football teams, the Baltimore Ravens and the Denver Broncos. But when he wasn't getting any playing time and he just could see the writing on the wall that this was not going to be a match, he was not going to make it in the NFL.
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It sounded like there was some sort of struggle happening in Cindy's house. And so he tried radioing her to ask what was going on, but he didn't get a response. And so he flew over to her house, he knocked on the door, but there was no answer.
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And so he kicked the door down and found Cindy lying in the hallway motionless with a note on top of her hand that was held in place by a paring knife that had been stabbed through the note and then through her hand. The note said, you're dead, lady. Cindy also had a black nylon stocking wrapped around her neck. And so initially, Ozzy believed Cindy was dead, but he managed to find a pulse.
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And so he brought her to the hospital, and when she regained consciousness, all she could recall was feeling someone inject her arm with a needle, and then after that, she had no memory of the attack. The police, believing Cindy had staged the attack, did not bother to take fingerprints at her home or on the knife or on the note. Ozzie, on the other hand, believed his client was telling the truth.
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He didn't believe Cindy was physically capable of injecting herself in the area where the needle had entered her body. The angle was nearly impossible to achieve on her own. Once she was released from the hospital, the police, despite believing she was lying, continued their surveillance operation of her property. But like always, nothing ever happened when any of the officers were on duty.
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The stalker activity only was reported after they had left. Life went on like this for over a year, and during that time, Cindy's mental health continued to decline rapidly. She lived in constant fear of this stalker, and she was deeply embarrassed that the police believed she was lying. On December 11th, 1985, Cindy was attacked again, but the details on this are incredibly scant.
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Someone found her lying in a ditch six miles away from her home. She was wearing a single work boot and a single glove. She was suffering from hypothermia, and she had cuts and bruises all over her body, and she had a black nylon stocking wrapped around her neck. She had no memory of the attack.
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The police told her that they believed this was yet another staged event, and so they did not do any significant follow-up. After a few days in the hospital, she was sent home, but she was terrified to be alone, so she reached out to her friend Agnes and asked if she and her husband Tom would stay with her for a couple of days, and they agreed.
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The first night they were there, Cindy woke up in the middle of the night and heard strange sounds coming from the basement. She woke up Agnes and Tom and they heard the sounds too. And so they went down to the first floor, they opened up the door to the basement and they looked downstairs and very clearly there was a fire raging in her basement.
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And so Cindy immediately ran to the phone to call 911, but they discovered the phone lines had been cut. And so Tom ran outside to try to find a neighbor to call 911 for them. And when he went outside, he found a man just standing there in front of the house watching it. And Tom yelled to him, hey, you need to call 911, this house is on fire.
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And this man, without saying a word, just turned and ran down the street. And that man was never identified. Finally, Tom did get a neighbor to call 911. The fire department arrived and they put out the fire. And then after an investigation, they determined that the fire had been set intentionally. This was an act of arson.
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He left for Europe to play in the European Football League. But when his European football career started to sputter out as well around 2009, he came back to the United States where he joined a very small time indoor arena football league.
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And the police said there was no signs of forced entry anywhere around the house, which means someone who was already in the house had to have started the fire. And they specifically said Cindy had to have started the fire because she stages these events all the time because of the stalker delusion she has.
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Agnes and Tom denied this claim, saying they never heard Cindy walking around at night, and she would never jeopardize their lives. After this event, Cindy became extremely depressed and had to be hospitalized, and for 10 weeks she was under intense psychiatric care.
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But at the end of those 10 weeks, the doctors determined that she was not a threat to herself or to anyone else, and so she was sent home. It was at this time that Cindy went to the police and said that she thinks Roy, her ex-husband, was behind all of the attacks.
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Police immediately brought Roy in for questioning, and he emphatically denied all allegations, saying he had nothing to do with it, and in fact, he had been the victim of this stalker that was going after his ex-wife. He said he got a number of these threatening phone calls, and one time when they called, they left him a voicemail, and he played it for the police.
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After speaking with Roy and confirming his various alibis, the police ruled him out as a suspect. For the next three and a half years, Cindy continued to receive threatening phone calls and messages at her house, but no one besides Cindy ever saw this stuff happen live.
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While her private investigator, Ozzie, still believed every bit of her story, the Richmond Police Department had grown tired of her and stopped responding to her calls. On the evening of May 25th, 1989, Agnes showed up at Cindy's house for their scheduled game of bridge. When she knocked on the door, there was no answer.
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And because Agnes and Cindy were very close, Agnes tried the front door, it was unlocked, and so she let herself in, thinking Cindy must be upstairs taking a shower. But when she stepped inside, the house was totally silent. And after a couple of minutes of no commotion upstairs, Agnes began searching the house for her friend, and she discovered that Cindy wasn't there.
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And while Cullen's love of football was still there as much as it ever was, he knew at this point playing at this low of a level that his career was effectively over. Around the same time that Cullen was hanging up his football cleats, he would meet Jennifer, who would become his wife. She was an Allstate volleyball player and in many ways was just as competitive and as athletic as Cullen was.
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And so she called the police. The police launched a search and very quickly found Cindy's car in a parking lot at a local supermarket. And when investigators went over the car, they discovered there was blood on the outside of the driver's side door. The contents of Cindy's purse, including her credit cards and ID, were scattered about on the ground near the car.
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and then in the trunk of the vehicle were the groceries that Cindy had recently purchased. But despite her car being found, there was really no indication of where she went next. Her friends and family believed she had been kidnapped by her stalker, and the police believed she was staging yet another event. But regardless, no one could find her.
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Two weeks after her disappearance, and one and a half miles away from where her car had been found, a road worker had drank too much coffee and needed to use the bathroom. But where they were working, they did not have a portage on and they were not near any local businesses that might offer public restrooms.
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The only area that offered any privacy was the abandoned building that was right near their work site. And so this worker told his crew where he was headed. He turned and began walking across the totally overgrown front yard of this property. And as he began walking around the side of this building, he smelled this horrific smell, like one of the worst smells he'd ever smelled in his life.
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And he assumed that because this property was abandoned, maybe people were dumping their trash on it somewhere and it's a hot day and that's why it smells. But either way, he wrote it off. He walked around to the back of this building. He found a good spot. He relieved himself.
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He turned around and began walking back along the side to go back to the road when he stopped because he saw something lying near the side of the house that he was surprised he hadn't noticed on his way in. He couldn't really see what it was because the tall grass was obscuring his view. And so he took a couple steps forward to get a better look.
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And when he could see clearly what it was, he stopped because laying in front of him was a clearly deceased woman laying on her side, with her hands and feet bound behind her back. And around her neck was a black nylon stocking. It was the body of Cindy James. Despite the nylon around her neck, the autopsy revealed she did not die from strangulation.
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She died from an overdose of morphine and other drugs. the police brought in a not-expert who was easily able to put himself in the same position that Cindy was in and tie himself up.
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With this information, combined with their belief that Cindy was a pathological liar, they concluded that this had to have been self-inflicted, that she injected herself with the lethal dose and then dropped down to the ground and tied herself up to stage the epic conclusion to this stalker delusion.
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To cover their bases, the police did re-interview Roy, the ex-husband, but his alibi checked out and realistically, he was never actually a suspect. It's not listed online whether Pat McBride, the police officer ex-boyfriend, was ever investigated. While the police were very confident in their theory of what happened to Cindy, there were some discrepancies.
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The medical examiner did not agree with the ruling that this was a suicide. He said that you can't conclude that, there's not enough evidence. During the autopsy, it was discovered that Cindy did have an injection mark in her arm but they could never find the needle anywhere near her body or anywhere between her and her parked car.
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Considering the extremely high dosage of narcotic that was found in Cindy's system, if this had been a suicide, as soon as she injected herself, she would have had to immediately shift gears, get down on the ground, and start hog-tying herself before she became too intoxicated to function, meaning the needle should have been right around where she was found, but it wasn't.
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They were kind of like a perfect match for each other. They married in 2010 and Cullen, this big man, big time quarterback, was shaking and crying at the altar because he was so nervous and excited about marrying Jennifer.
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Also missing from the crime scene were Cindy's shoes and socks. And interestingly, her bare feet were totally clean, despite the fact that in order to get where she was found, she would have had to cover a distance of at least a mile and a half from her parked car. But again, there was no dirt or any markings on the underside of her feet.
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Also, it was strange that she wasn't discovered faster than two weeks. Although she was found near this abandoned house that was totally overgrown, the house was actually frequented by teenagers And there was a walking trail nearby that would have had a line of sight on her body. These discrepancies have led many people to believe that Cindy did have a stalker.
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And this stalker kidnapped her in the supermarket parking lot. They tied her up. They injected her with the lethal dose of morphine. And then after she had died, they dumped her near this abandoned property right before she was found. And they had left that black nylon tied around her neck because that was the stalker's signature.
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Some have taken this a step further and said Pat McBride, the police officer, was behind the attacks because he would have known when surveillance was set up on her house and could have very easily avoided detection. But the most bizarre and fascinating theory of what happened to Cindy is that she had Dissociative Identity Disorder, or DID.
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This is where someone maintains at least two distinct personalities, and when one of those personalities is active, The other kind of fades and has no memory of this experience, creating these huge memory gaps. And so the theory goes, one of Cindy's personalities was effectively stalking herself. Or more specifically, one of her personalities hated herself and wanted to do herself harm.
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And so that personality would do things like stab her own hand or run six miles away into some ditch and leave herself for dead. And then Cindy's other personality would take back over and she would suddenly come to having no memory of how she became injured or how she wound up in this ditch.
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And so when she went to police to tell them that someone is stalking, is harassing, is attacking me, she was telling the truth. But that someone, that stalker, was actually her. She just didn't know it.
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because I think this was a really big turning point for him where he was basically putting football in the past and starting this new life and building a family with Jennifer and he was really excited about it.
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but roy her ex-husband was a psychiatrist and in their 16 years of marriage he never noticed this condition and when cindy was in that psychiatric ward for 10 weeks following one of her stalker attacks none of the doctors or psychiatrists ever noticed or diagnosed her with this condition
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It's still possible she had DID and it just came on later in life and it didn't present itself enough to be noticed during those 10 weeks of psychiatric care. But realistically, this reduces the chances of DID being behind this whole thing. To date, her death is still considered a suicide and no one has ever been charged in connection with her death.
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The newlywed couple moved into a house together in Michigan where they had two kids and Cullen landed a good job in medical sales and by all accounts Cullen was just hitting his stride post-football. On Memorial Day weekend in 2013, Jennifer's family was planning this three-day fishing trip along the Baldwin River in Michigan, and the Finnerty's decided they would join them.
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The first story you'll hear is called The Quarterback and it's about a famous college quarterback who goes missing. And the second and final story you'll hear is called Waking Nightmare and it's about a woman who deals with a violent stalker.
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And so Cullen and his wife and kids, they rented a cabin that was gonna be near the campsite that Jennifer's family was staying at, And for the entire weekend, it was just this great fishing trip where everybody had a great time and the weather was beautiful.
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And on May 26th, so the last night of this three-day fishing trip, Cullen, who had recently purchased this pontoon boat that they had used for this fishing trip, he wanted to just go out one more time on his boat, this boat that he was really proud of, and fish for another 30-45 minutes before ending the weekend.
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So Colin put on his waders and his jacket, he grabbed his fishing pole, and he had his family drive him to the stairs that led down to the water where his pontoon boat was. Before he walked down the steps, he turned and told his family that he'd be out for about 30 to 45 minutes and that he wanted to be picked up at the next boat ramp down the way and that he would call when he needed a ride.
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42 minutes later at 9.27 p.m., Jennifer receives a phone call from her husband, and she's expecting it to be the call where he says, okay, I'm ready to get picked up.
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But when she answers the phone, Cullen is frantic, and he's telling her that he's being followed by two men in the tree line, that he's out on the water on his pontoon, but there are two men in the tree line that he can't see, but he can hear them, and they've been following him for some time.
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And before Jennifer can even get a word out, Cullen says to her that he's gonna beach the boat and take his clothes off. And then he hangs up. Jennifer immediately tries calling Cullen back repeatedly, but he's not picking up. And so she's left feeling totally confused about what her husband has just told her. What stood out to her was how scared he sounded on the phone.
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And fear was not something she typically associated with Cullen. This beast of a man, this tough football player, he didn't get scared. So for him to be that scared sounding and to be describing people basically stalking him, she knew he was in serious trouble.
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So she calls 911 and she describes where he is in the Baldwin River and the police take her report and say, we'll send someone out right away. After Jennifer got off the phone with police, she called her family and told them about this really strange phone call from Cullen and how she just called the police and she didn't know what to do.
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And so her brother tried calling Cullen and Cullen answered. And when he did, Matt said, hey, Cullen, where are you? And Cullen would say, I don't know where I am, but there's these two guys that are still following me. And Matt would say, you know, are you still on your boat? Are you on land? And all Cullen said is, you know, it's getting pretty rough out here. And then he hung up.
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Afterwards, Matt would call Jen and he would tell her about this phone call with Cullen and it really didn't add any clarity to the situation. And so Jen and her family decide the best thing they can do is go to the boat ramp where Cullen had said he wanted to be picked up in hopes that maybe he would make his way there and they would find him.
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So Jennifer and her family head out to this location and Cullen's not there. They get out, they're yelling for him. There's no sign of him. And shortly after, a police car would show up because this was one of the areas where Jennifer had said when she spoke to police that Cullen might be. And so the police officer gets out. They take an official statement from Jennifer.
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And at this point, they file an official missing person report. Before the police began looking for Cullen, they reached out to his wireless service provider and they asked them to ping his cell phone from the tower. Any service provider has the ability to roughly triangulate the location of a cell phone based on the last few locations of the phone.
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The last four locations that the service provider pinged for Cullen were up to four miles apart from each other, which was bizarre in its own way because the idea that in a very rugged, rough area in a very short amount of time, that Cullen had been moving four, five, six, seven miles just to get to these different points, that didn't really make sense.
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But also when they looked at these points on a map, it looked like each of them was either near a paved road or in order to get to them, you would have had to cross a paved road. And so they're thinking to themselves, why does he keep moving point to point if at any one of these locations he's near relative safety?
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But as strange as these four locations were, the police now had a really solid starting point. So they dispatched people to each of these points and they began combing along the river where he had last been seen and within an hour they discovered his boat. It was a little ways down from where he had been dropped off. It was missing an oar and it was basically beached on the side of the river.
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So if that's of interest to you, please sneak into the Amazon Music Follow Buttons house and steal the little plastic clip on their vacuum that keeps the cord neatly tucked away after use. Okay, let's get into our first story called The Quarterback.
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It wasn't clear if it had been intentionally beached but Cullen wasn't in it and when they searched around the area they couldn't find any sign that Cullen was in the area. They were yelling for him. He wasn't yelling back.
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Interestingly, a man who owned property near where the pontoon boat was found reported to police hearing screaming or yelling coming from the area where the boat was found around the same time that Cullen went missing. But despite this piece of information, it didn't actually help them discover where Cullen actually went.
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For the next 48 hours, police and hundreds of people searched in the areas where his cell phone had pinged and along the river where his pontoon had been found, but there was no sign of him. Then on the evening of May 28th, approximately 48 hours after Cullen had gone missing, they discovered his body.
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It was located less than a half mile away from a paved road, and it was situated in between those four points that the cell phone provider had given. He was laying completely face down with his right arm under his body and his left arm over his head, clutching some grass.
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When they rolled him over, he had some blood coming out of his nose, but besides that, there was no significant trauma anywhere on his body. Cullen appeared to be wearing all of his clothes. However, it was noted that the strap on his waders was really badly twisted. Now, if he had never taken his clothes off, that would have been something he would have fixed.
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It would have been very uncomfortable when he started this trip to go fishing. That would have been something he would have fixed. Now, he said to his wife on the phone that he was going to be taking his clothes off, which there was no explanation for that, but he clearly said that to his wife and she reported that to police.
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And so some have speculated that between that phone call and finding him with the twisted strap on his waders, that that indicates that perhaps his clothes did come off at some point over the past couple of days and were put back on again, either by him or by someone else. His cell phone had also been found in his front pocket, indicating that those cell phone pings had been his actual location.
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Initially, Cullen's autopsy was completely inconclusive. There was no trauma to his body. There was no obvious thing that killed him. But later on, it was determined he died of pneumonia caused by inhaling his own vomit. So we don't know how you get to a place where you're inhaling your own vomit, but I would imagine you're in a pretty panicked state of mind if that could happen to you.
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Many people believe Colin's death was the result of a traumatic brain injury caused by all the years of playing football and getting hit in the head. And so that can lead to paranoia. And so perhaps this was a fit of paranoia. He got turned around. He got scared. He thought somebody was chasing him. And then, you know, he vomits and inhales his vomit and that ultimately kills him.
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And in 2011, Cullen had briefly shown signs of being a little bit paranoid when one day he thought someone was following him and he actually went to a family member's house and said, I think someone's following me, but he could never identify where this person was or who they were.
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But even if this was a fit of paranoia and no one was following him in the woods, well, why didn't he stop on the paved road every time he crossed it? Because that would have represented safety. I mean, in 2011, when he supposedly had another fit of paranoia, his instincts were to go to a family member and to seek help. And so you would think his instincts in this situation would be similar.
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He would seek help. He would seek safety. But he continuously left safety. He left the road. He left his boat. His boat was safety. Why did he leave his boat? And even if we turn this around and we say, no, it was not a fit of paranoia that he was in fact being followed by someone or something in the woods,
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Well, then why would that prompt him to call his wife and say, I'm going to get out of the boat and take my clothes off and then proceed to walk four, five, six, seven miles in a very short period of time, crossing over a paved road at least one or two times and not stopping, not signaling for help? That doesn't make sense either.
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And what was that screaming that that resident heard coming from the area where the pontoon boat was found? Unfortunately, there are many questions in this case, and the vast majority of them will go unanswered. If you're listening to this podcast, then chances are good you are a fan of The Strange, Dark, and Mysterious. And if that's the case, then I've got some good news.
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In this free weekly show, we explore bizarre unheard of diseases, strange medical mishaps, unexplainable deaths, and everything in between. Each story is totally true and totally terrifying. Go follow Mr. Ballin's Medical Mysteries wherever you get your podcasts, and if you're a Prime member, you can listen early and ad-free on Amazon Music. Hey listeners, big news for true crime lovers.
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In June of 1982, 38-year-old Cindy Hack divorced her husband, Roy. As soon as she moved into another home in Vancouver, Canada, she felt this wave of relief come over her. Their marriage had become abusive and toxic years ago, but her newfound happiness would be short-lived. Only four months after leaving her husband, Cindy's waking nightmare would begin.
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It all started with a late night phone call on October 7th, 1982. When she answered, the voice on the other side was raspy and angry sounding. It addressed Cindy by name and quickly told her that they planned on hurting her. And before Cindy could do anything, the caller had hung up. Cindy was horrified and didn't know what to do, so she did nothing.
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And then over the next few days, she received more calls from this phantom caller, and each of them began with this person addressing her by name and then threatening violence. And Cindy began to convince herself that this had to be some terrible prank, and so she continued to do nothing about it.
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From 2002 to 2006, Cullen Finnerty was perhaps the most successful college quarterback in history, winning three national championships and being named the division two player of the decade. He was also perhaps the toughest college quarterback in history. Most quarterbacks will spend their careers looking to avoid getting smashed by defenders, Not Cullen.
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One night, Cindy couldn't help but feel like she was being watched, and she looked into her living room and she noticed one of her windows was still open. At night, she would draw all the curtains in her house. And so she walked over to the window and she pressed her face up against the glass to look outside and she didn't see anybody out there.
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And so she drew the curtains, turned around and began walking back towards the kitchen when her phone rang. She hesitated, but eventually picked the phone up. And on the other side of the call was the mystery caller, who in a mocking tone told her that curtains weren't going to protect her, that they knew when she was home.
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This incident pushed her over the edge and she knew this could not be some bad prank. This was real. And so she contacted the police who made a house visit, but there wasn't any sign of a break-in or any sign of a crime being committed.
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And so after walking her property and feeling confident that she was safe, they told her that, you know, you should really consider getting an unlisted telephone number. That way this mystery person can't keep contacting you. And so Cindy thanked them and would go on to get an unlisted telephone number.
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But not only would the calls continue, they would become more frequent, and in fact, the harassment in general only began to escalate. Three days later, on October 15th, Cindy and her good friend Agnes were coming back from dinner to Cindy's house.
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When they got there, they noticed that one of the front windows had been broken, and so they carefully walked onto the porch and realized the front door was actually unlocked and slightly ajar. They considered immediately leaving the property and just calling police. But they sat there for a minute and didn't hear anything inside the house.
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And so they decided they would just poke their head in and investigate. And so when they went inside, all the lights were off and there was no sign of a disturbance. It was totally quiet. But when they went upstairs, they found feathers all over the hall. And they followed those feathers all the way to Cindy's room. And in her room, all of her pillows had been ripped apart.
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And so Larry probably climbed up there because it represented a really happy place for him, and when he got up there, he must have somehow tripped and fallen into the tiny 18-inch space between the freezer and the wall. Investigators believe there's no way he actually got hurt when he fell into this little space. He got wedged in there, but he wasn't harmed.
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The problem was these huge fans that run constantly to keep the freezer cold were unbelievably loud and would have completely drowned out his cries for help. And so no one knows for sure how long this took, but eventually he would die because no one heard him. Looking back at old Facebook posts around the time that Larry would have been dead behind the freezer,
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The next and final story of today's episode is called The Blue Door. On the morning of September 19th, 2013, a man named Mark Casey sat with his girlfriend, Lynn Spaulding, in the triage area of the emergency room at San Francisco General Hospital. A nurse took Lynn's temperature and her blood pressure while Mark tried to explain what had been going on with Lynn over the past few weeks.
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Lynn, who was now 57, had been dealing with this really intense stomach pain, and so she had gone to the doctor, and she had been diagnosed with a urinary tract infection, and she was given antibiotics for it, but despite taking those antibiotics, it didn't get rid of the stomach pain. And in fact, her stomach pain was only getting worse, she was losing weight, and she just seemed really frail.
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But despite her condition obviously getting worse every single day, over the past few weeks, Lynn had basically refused to go back to the hospital, despite Mark saying, we really gotta go, you're getting worse, we gotta have you looked at. But she just kept saying no.
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And then finally, when Mark noticed Lynn was now becoming somewhat despondent, like he would try to talk to her and her eyes would glaze over and she would look off into the distance like she didn't even hear him, Mark had just looked at Lynn and said, you know what? I'm taking you to the hospital.
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And so he put her in the car, he brought her to the hospital, and now that he was here, he had to explain what was going on because Lynn was still despondent, just kind of staring off into space and very likely having no idea what was going on. And so after Mark gave all the information to the nurse, the nurse said that, okay, you know, Lynn needs to be admitted to the hospital.
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And so after a short wait, an orderly came over and pushed Lynn's wheelchair up to the fifth floor where she'd be staying and Mark went with them. And then once in the room, Mark helped Lynn get settled in her bed. And again, Lynn is just kind of staring off into space, not really paying attention.
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And then a whole team of nurses and doctors came in and hooked Lynn up to IVs and different machines to make sure they could monitor her. And then at some point, one of the doctors pulled Mark aside and said, you know, we think Lynn is dealing with some kind of infection. And so what we need to do is run some tests to figure out what this infection is, and then hopefully we can treat it.
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And so Mark said, okay, that sounds great. And then all day, Mark sat right next to Lynn and held her hand as the medical team came in and out of the room running all these tests. The following day, the medical team still didn't know what was wrong with Lynn. The tests they had run so far were inconclusive or were negative.
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Now, the biggest issue with Lynn was not trying to figure out what infection she had or how to cure her. Instead, it was how do we keep Lynn in her hospital room? Because on this second day that Lynn was at the hospital, despite being very despondent still, any chance she got, she was getting out of her bed and trying to escape her room.
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And so the medical team, they kept having to go find her and bring her back to her room, and they tried to explain to her, like, Lynn, you're sick. That's why you're here. You need to stay in your room. But Lynn clearly was just not getting it. She was just not there. And she would just say to the team, I want to go home. I just want to go home. I want to go home.
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And they would say, well, Lynn, you've got to get better first, and then you can go home. Now, Mark, like the medical staff, was also concerned about Lynn's behavior. It was not safe for her to get up and flee her hospital room. But Mark kind of secretly thought, you know, maybe this is a good sign. Because the day before, Lynn couldn't even walk on her own.
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And now today, she's walking around on her own trying to escape the hospital, which is bad. But, you know, she's ambulatory. That's got to be a good sign. And also, Mark was thinking that because Lynn was fleeing her room over and over again, she's gonna get even better medical care because the staff has to be super focused on her.
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And so Mark was feeling kind of optimistic that Lynn was on the road to recovery. The next morning, so now Lynn has been at the hospital for two days at this point, a nurse went into Lynn's room to check on her at about 10.15 a.m. And she walked up to Lynn, who was in her bed, and Lynn immediately told the nurse that she wanted to go home.
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And the nurse said, sorry, Lynn, we still don't know what's wrong with you. You've got to stay here for now. But again, it was pretty clear Lynn did not understand what the nurse was saying.
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saying and so lynn was not agitated she was laying in bed and did not appear to you know want to flee the room anytime soon and so the nurse took lynn's vitals they were all basically normal and then the nurse wrote down on lynn's chart that her condition as of this moment was fair and then the nurse left the room And once this nurse was gone, Lynn laid in bed for a second.
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And then when nobody else came in the room, she sat up, she hopped off the bed and she took off her hospital gown. She pulled out all the cords and wires that were on her. Then she put on her jeans, her boots, her jacket. She grabbed her purse off the table and she walked out the door.
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And the second she walked out the door, she would have been in this long hallway, except her room was at the end of the hallway. So when she stepped out into that hallway, if she turned right, she would have seen a long, long stretch of hallway with other hospital rooms and lots of staff and doctors and nurses kind of walking around.
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But to her left, it would have been a dead end with a single blue door with a green exit sign over the top of it. And so Lynn, she steps into the hallway, she looks down the long side to the right, then she looks to the left, she sees the blue door, and she goes to the blue door, she opens it up, and she disappears inside.
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When the nurse came back to Lynn's room and saw she wasn't there, she reported Lynn missing. Now, remember, the hospital was well aware of the fact that Lynn had been trying to escape for the past 48 hours. And so nobody was really shocked by this. In fact, the hospital, their first move was to contact Mark, who had actually gone home the night before to get some real sleep and to take a shower.
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And so they contacted Mark and they said, hey, Lynn's not here. Is she with you? And Mark was like, no, I'm home. She's not here. I have not seen her. I haven't talked to her. I have no idea where she is. And so the hospital at this point began this huge search in their building, just checking the entire property for Lynn, but there was no trace of her.
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And so the police were contacted and they launched a search, both of the hospital grounds and also of the surrounding areas, and they too could not find a trace of Lynn. It was like Lynn just vanished into thin air.
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that is until october 8 2013 so 17 days after lynn had strolled through that blue exit door on that day october 8th a hospital maintenance worker was walking down the long hallway in the hospital not on the fifth floor where lynn was staying but one floor below so on the fourth floor he's walking down this long hallway in the direction of the dead end side so the same side that lynn was on where her room was but again one floor above and the maintenance worker he walks
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all the way to the end of this hallway on the fourth floor, and he arrives in front of the blue door with the green exit sign above it. Again, this is below where Lynn was, but it looks the same. And the maintenance worker, he opened up the door, and when he looked out of the fourth floor door, he just froze, because what he was looking at just seemed impossible.
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And then he had this urge to scream, but he knew there were all these patients and kids and doctors and stuff in the hallway behind him, and he didn't wanna scare anyone. and so very quietly he reached down and grabbed his radio and he called for help. In order to explain what happened next, you have to have a basic understanding of the layout of this building, specifically the outside of it.
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If you were outside looking at this building, you would see an enclosed staircase that runs from the bottom to the top of the building, with outdoor landings on each floor. The one on top is the fifth floor landing, and the one below it with a single person on it is the fourth floor landing.
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The audio from all three of these stories has been pulled from our main YouTube channel and has been remastered for today's episode. The links to the original YouTube videos are in the description. The first story you'll hear is called Rush, and it's about one of the most heartbreaking cases in the UK.
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On the morning of June 25th, 2007, a 28-year-old man named Mike Barnett woke up to the sound of pounding rain on the roof of his home, which was located in Hull, which is a city in northern England. Mike groaned as he rolled out of bed. It had been raining like this for the past month, and he and the rest of the people in Hall were just totally over it.
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And to get onto these outdoor landings, you have to walk through those blue exit doors at the end of those hallways. These blue doors are emergency exits. And so when you go out these blue doors, once they shut, they lock automatically.
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But now you're out on this outdoor landing, and immediately to your right, although you can't see it in this picture, there is actually another door that leads to this enclosed stairwell that will bring you all the way to the ground floor, where there's another door that's unlocked that will bring you out to safety.
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And so again, you walk out one of those blue doors, you're on this landing, you can turn, open up another door, you're in the stairwell, and you can evacuate. So in theory, if you were a person that really wanted to escape this hospital, like Lynn did, going out one of these blue door emergency exits was a great idea. It would bring you to the ground. This is a way to escape the hospital.
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But remember, Lynn was totally confused. Mentally, she was just not there because of whatever illness was affecting her. And so when she walked out that door, she arrived on the fifth floor landing and the door shut behind her and it locked. And the theory is, as soon as Lynn got out there, maybe she had some second thoughts and wanted to go back into the hospital.
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And so she turned and she grabbed that door and tried to open it back up again, but because it locks automatically, it wouldn't open. And so, Lynn did have the wherewithal to turn and see this other door that led to this enclosed stairwell, the emergency stairwell that did go to the ground floor. She could absolutely go all the way down and escape, she could do that.
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She went down one floor to the fourth floor landing. And when she got there, she left the stairwell and she went to that door that would lead back into the hospital on the fourth floor, and she tried it, but of course it was locked. And then again, instead of her just going back into the stairwell and going down and escaping to safety, she, for some reason, just stayed on the fourth floor landing.
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Again, you gotta remember that she's not all there mentally, and so she was confused, and she just stayed there on the landing, basically waiting to be rescued. But despite these huge searches of the hospital property by hospital staff and by the police, for some reason, this area, this landing on the fourth floor was never checked. And so nobody found her. That is until October 4th.
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So at this point, Lynn has been outside for 13 days on this landing. and a researcher from the hospital, for whatever reason, exited out one of these emergency doors, and they began making their way downstairs, and when they passed by the fourth floor landing, they spotted Lynn on the ground on the fourth floor landing,
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But instead of going over to her and seeing if she was okay, this researcher just called security and said, hey, there's a patient outside on the fourth floor landing, like, come check it out. And then instead of waiting for security, the researcher just left, leaving Lynn alone. And security at the hospital, who said they were going to go check, they didn't.
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And so four more days would go by with still nobody officially finding Lynn. And then finally on October 8th, the hospital maintenance worker opened up the blue door on the fourth floor and he saw the fourth floor landing, that exterior landing, and he saw Lynn and he knew she was dead.
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Officials were never able to determine when Lynn died, so it's not clear how long she was alive out on that landing. But it is possible she could have been alive when that researcher found her, but obviously help didn't come in time. Ultimately, Lynn's family would sue the city and the hospital, and they would be awarded $3 million.
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A quick note about our stories, they are all based on true events, but we sometimes use pseudonyms to protect the people involved, and some details are fictionalized for dramatic purposes. Thank you for listening to the Mr. Ballin Podcast. If you enjoyed today's stories and you're looking for more bone-chilling content, be sure to check out all of our studios' podcasts.
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But another reason he groaned is he knew that he would have to go to his job at a tropical fish store, even though he was not scheduled to work that day. There was a street right behind the tropical fish store that always completely flooded out from all these debris getting clogged in the drain.
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And the owner of the tropical fish store, so Mike's boss, who was an elderly guy, he would always go out and try to clear the debris himself. And Mike just knew, you know, he really needed help. And today he knew his boss would be out there. And so he just felt like it was his responsibility to go in and help him clear out the debris.
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So Mike got dressed, he had some breakfast, and then as quietly as he could, he slipped out the front door. Mike was careful not to make too much noise because he didn't want to wake his dad, who he lived with. Mike and his dad had always been very close, but after the death of Mike's mother, he and his father had become even closer, and so they actually really enjoyed living together.
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But Mike also knew that his dad was very protective of him and very likely would not like the idea of Mike going out in this horrible storm to go try to clear debris in a flooded out street. It just was too dangerous. And Mike just didn't want to deal with that right now. And so he was able to slip out without waking up his dad. Mike hopped in his car and he drove to the fish store.
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And as soon as he got there, he hopped out. He went around to the backside of the shop. And sure enough, the entire street out back was totally flooded. Clearly, debris had blocked the drainage system. Now, Mike's boss was not out there yet. Mike could see him inside the shop kind of going about his morning.
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And so Mike, without even going inside, just began wading into the water to begin clearing debris. The drain that was clogged by all this debris was located just off to the side of the sidewalk. It was down in a culvert. And so Mike very carefully walked off that sidewalk into this very cold, muddy water, and he began moving in the direction of where he knew the drain was.
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The second story you'll hear is called Fans, and it's about a man who was found in a place where no one can hear you scream. And the third and final story you'll hear is called The Blue Door, and it's about a maintenance worker who calls for help after they make a horrifying discovery behind a blue exit door.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
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And so as he's walking, you know, the water is down to his ankles, maybe up to his knees at some point. But he gets closer and closer to where he knows this drainage is down in this culvert. And suddenly, Mike begins feeling this unbelievable suction at his feet that began pulling him basically straight down. Mike tried to move, but his feet were anchored to the ground.
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And then before long, he began getting pulled forward towards the strain, and then down he went. And as he went all the way down to his neck in the water, he felt this unbelievable pain in his thigh. Mike didn't know it, but his leg had been sucked through the drainage gate that was all blocked up. There was still some holes in it.
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And so his leg had gone through one of those holes and it had pulled him all the way up to the top of his thigh and brutally snapped his leg in the process. And so Mike is in blinding pain from his leg being shattered and run through this grate. And he's literally up to his neck in this frigid water and the wind's blowing and it's raining and the water's going in his mouth.
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And so Mike begins to panic and he's trying to pull himself out. He can't. And then he begins screaming for help. And at that moment, the owner of the fish store, who was still inside the store, looked out the window and he saw Mike flailing around. And instinctively, the owner could tell just from the panicked look on Mike's face that whatever was happening to him was an emergency.
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And so the owner just picked up the phone, called the police, and after telling them what was happening, the owner ran out to Mike. When the first police officers arrived on the scene, Mike was still in the water up to his neck and the shop owner was right next to him.
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And the police officers, you know, they assessed the situation in front of them and they thought, okay, you know, clearly this guy, Mike, is trapped in the water. This is serious, but we can pull him out. You know, that's the obvious solution here. And so the two officers walked up to Mike. They waded through the water and got on either side of him, kind of pushing the shop owner out of the way.
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And then the two officers grabbed Mike's shoulders. You know, these are strong police officers. And they began pulling on Mike. And as soon as they did, Mike let out this unbelievably loud scream of just pure agony. And in fact, his scream was so guttural that the two officers let go and were kind of startled by it.
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And very quickly, these officers realized this situation is far worse than it appears. Because not only is this guy totally stuck and he can't be moved, but, you know, they're looking around and the rain is still coming down and it's clear the water is still slowly rising.
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And because Mike's body was situated over the grate, he himself was causing even more blockage, increasing how much the street was flooding. meaning the officers knew they had to get Mike out as soon as possible or he would drown.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
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But before we get into today's stories, if you're a fan of the strange, dark, and mysterious delivered in story format, then you've come to the right podcast because that's all we do and we upload twice a week, once on Monday and once on Thursday. So if that's of interest to you, please replace the Amazon Music Follow Button's melatonin with Radithor.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
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But over the next several hours, more police officers, firefighters, EMTs, good Samaritans, I mean, everybody showed up on the scene, and there were so many attempts to get Mike out of the water, ranging from trying to cut the grate, but the water was too muddy so nobody could see through it, and the water was so strong that nobody could set the bolt cutters on the actual grate.
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And then at one point, they even tied a winch around Mike and tried to pull him out with a Land Rover, but every intervention failed. The rushing water that was pinning Mike to this grate was so strong, and Mike's pain in his leg was so high, it made it nearly impossible to move him.
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And so finally, at the four-hour mark that Mike has been trapped in this water, a decision was made amongst all the first responders to amputate. So the police called a doctor who was willing to perform the leg amputation. And then after doing it, Mike could sense something was up. You know, clearly it's not going well.
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And he began frantically asking the police and all the first responders, when are you going to get me out of here? When are you going to get me out of here? And they just kept telling him, soon, soon, Mike, hold on. It's going to be OK. Meanwhile, the owner of the shop at this point had called Mike's dad to tell him what was going on.
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And so as all these people are waiting for this doctor to show up to cut Mike's leg off, Mike's father shows up and basically barrels through the crowd and starts screaming, I'll get my son out of here. But as soon as he saw his son, he was totally taken aback. Mike was up to his chin in water.
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There was a diver behind him in the water with him, holding him up, barely keeping his head above the water. Mike's face was totally pale and his eyes were totally unfocused. And he had this weird blank expression like he wasn't even there. And then a second later, a whole wall of police came running up to Mike's dad to stop him from getting any closer.
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And they told Mike's father they were doing everything they could to try to get his son out. And for now, they told him he just needed to go home. And so even though Mike's dad did not want to abandon his son, he could tell with all these police standing there in front of him, there was no way he was going to be able to go up there with a son.
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And so he would turn around and head back home without even speaking to his son. Then, when Mike's dad got home, he turned on the news, and the news was showing live coverage of his son trapped in that grate. And just a couple of minutes later, Mike's dad would watch his son die on the news. By the time that doctor arrived with that special saw to cut off Mike's leg, it was already too late.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
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Mike had passed away from hypothermia. Our next story is called Fans. In 2009, 25-year-old Larry Mario Moncada graduated from college and moved back in with his parents in Iowa. He was excited about his future and his parents were extremely proud of him.
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Okay, let's get into our first story called Rush.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
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As soon as Larry moved back home, the first thing he did was go out and get a placeholder job at the No Frills supermarket, which was a local supermarket right in town. He figured, you know what, it's temporary, but I don't want to just sit around all day. I want to do that until I find my career.
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But even though the job was supposed to be temporary, he found that he kind of loved the job because he loved the people he worked with. And his co-workers would later say that they loved working with him, too. But everything in Larry and his family's life would get turned completely upside down in November of 2009.
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On November 26th, while a blizzard raged outside, Larry and his family celebrated Thanksgiving inside. After everyone was done eating, Larry told them that he actually had an overnight shift at the supermarket. And I don't think his family knew he had this shift. So they were like, oh man, do you really gotta go? The weather's so bad. And he's like, no, I gotta go. I don't mind.
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And they're like, all right, well, hey, sorry you gotta work. And Larry walks outside and goes to work. The next morning when he came back from that shift, his mother would say something seemed off about him. When he came inside, he was very disoriented. He didn't really know where he was. And his mom's trying to tell him that everything's okay. You know, what's going on?
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Did something happen out there? And this is when it dawned on her that he could be having an anxiety attack. Just a few years earlier, Larry had had a whole bunch of panic attacks and he was really struggling with anxiety. And it wasn't until his mom made him go to the doctor and put him on medication that he stabilized. But at this moment, she didn't know if her son was on any medication or not.
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So just to play it safe, she said, hey, let's go to the doctor and have you looked at. You don't seem well. So she brings him to the doctor and the doctor quickly prescribes Larry an antidepressant. They go and fill the prescription. They go back home and Larry takes one of these antidepressants.
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But the medication didn't seem to be doing anything because over the course of the day, Larry got progressively more and more stressed out and more confused seeming. And eventually he told his mom that he was hearing voices in his head that were telling him his heart is beating too quickly and he needs to eat sugar to slow down his heart.
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And his mom is looking at him thinking, what do I do about this? And so all she could think to do was just to stand next to him and kind of comfort him as he sits there eating sugar over the course of the day.
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Finally that night he would fall asleep and his mother prayed that over the course of the night that somehow this medication he had been prescribed would kick in and he would wake up and feel better because so far it really seemed to only be getting exponentially worse.
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But the next morning when Larry got up he was just as bad as the night before except now he was having these vivid hallucinations. He said there were people in the house that were looking for him and so he spent the day running around the house hiding from people in the house that were not actually there.
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Then finally that night, Larry just kind of loses it and begins screaming at his parents and berating them before suddenly running out the front door without shoes, without a jacket, no wallet, no cell phone, no anything. And he just runs directly into the blizzard and disappears.
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His family was so caught off guard by this happening that it took them a minute to get out the front door after him, but it was snowing so hard they could barely see in front of their face and they knew he was gone. So immediately they call the police, but the police have the same issue. They can't really go looking for him right now because the visibility was so, so bad.
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And so they told his family that we can't really start until tomorrow morning, so hopefully he turns up tonight. So the next day when the weather clears up a little bit, the police go out looking for Larry and they're asking people in town if they've seen him and no one's seen Larry.
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And unfortunately, because it had snowed so much the night before, any of Larry's tracks leading out of Larry's house were now covered over. And so after a couple of days of this, when there's just no sign of this guy, the police say to the family, look, you know, there's not much we can do. We're just going to have to wait to see if he turns up.
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Ten years later, the No Frills supermarket where Larry used to work was out of business and it was about to get torn down. And some contractors were sent in to start ripping down the shelving and breaking down the inside of the buildings.
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And when they went into the back and began pulling away those huge freezers that keep your milk and your dairy products in, they start pulling those away from the wall. Larry's body comes tumbling out. It had been pinned in this tiny 18 inch wide space between the back of the freezer and the wall.
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It's believed on the night Larry ran out of his parents' house barefoot into a blizzard, he ran right up the road and went to the No Frills supermarket. Now it was closed at the time, but he had access to the back door with the key code because he worked there.
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And so he went inside and he climbed on top of the freezers, the section of the freezers that jut back into the space that no one in the store can see. And he climbed on top because on top of there, all the workers would kind of congregate up there. It was like a little clubhouse where the workers would avoid the managers for little pockets of the day.
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On a cold winter day in 2013, police officers rushed through the dense woods outside of a small town in Kentucky. They weaved their way through the trees, keeping their eyes peeled. Then finally, one of them shouted out. He saw what they were looking for in the distance.
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And within a couple of minutes, a state trooper shouted for White and Myers, and they rushed through the house, and they found him inside of a utility room just off the kitchen.
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The trooper pointed to the floor, and Myers and White looked at each other and then bent down, because they saw a wooden panel that almost completely blended in with the floor, and they realized this was actually the entrance to a crawlspace. They lifted up the wooden panel and they looked inside. And right away, both men felt a mix of excitement and horror.
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There, in this tiny crawlspace, they saw a rug that was covered in blood. And there was blood spatter all over the floor and the sides of this crawlspace. Late that night, after forensics techs had collected blood and possible DNA samples from the rug, the crawlspace, and throughout the house, Myers and White laid out a plan.
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They knew that a group of trained law enforcement officers, including both of them, had searched this house and almost left without finding the entrance to that crawlspace. So they didn't believe that Barbara's killer was just some random person who just happened to stumble upon that hidden panel in the utility room floor.
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Instead, they were sure that her killer must have had intimate knowledge of the layout of the house. And for Myers and White, only a limited number of people could fit the bill. Staff members and maintenance crew who worked at the retirement village, and Barbara's close friends and family.
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Agent White had the resources at his disposal to track down and interview everyone on staff at Mount Pleasant. So Myers, who was well-respected in the local community, would handle speaking to Barbara's friends and family. And Detective Myers knew who he wanted to start with. because he lived by a simple adage when it came to police work.
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If there's a fire, and someone watching that fire burn wants to know all the details about how it started and how it spread, there's a good chance that person may have started the fire. And Myers thought the same went for violent crimes. And there was one person who had wanted all the details about Barbara's disappearance and the police investigation from the very beginning.
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Her own granddaughter, Barbie. In the days following the discovery of that crawlspace, Detective Myers and his team dug deeper into Barbara's life and her relationship with her granddaughter. And what they found did not really surprise them. Barbara was loved by pretty much everyone who knew her. She was smart, funny, and always looked out for other people.
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But hearing things like this was pretty common for police when talking to people who had just lost their loved one. But Myers got the sense that Barbara really was this kind person who had tried to take care of other people for most of her life. However, there was something else that Myers kept hearing about Barbara. She and her late husband had apparently always been great with money.
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So, over the years, Barbara had become extremely wealthy. And because of the type of person she was, she wanted to take care of everyone she loved after she was gone. which meant her kids stood to inherit sizable portions of her wealth once she passed away. And also, so did her granddaughter, Barbie.
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And so armed with this information, Detective Myers brought Barbie in for an interview at the police station. Barbie sat down across from Myers at his desk, and she proved to be as talkative as she'd been every time she'd called him about the investigation. Over the course of this conversation, Barbie communicated to Myers that she loved her grandmother.
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She couldn't get over how Barbara still loved to cook and how good she was at it. At 87 years old, Barbara made it a point to stay active, and she loved cooking and having people over to her house as often as she could. And when she wasn't entertaining, she loved to drive her prized red Cadillac around town and visit the shops on Main Street.
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But she also communicated that she was having some money issues. She told him that she really had to work hard just to pay her rent and cover her bills. Now, on the surface, that did not seem particularly strange to Myers. Barbie came off like a lot of young people do who were living on their own for the first time. But there was also something that Myers could not quite figure out.
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Barbie still seemed like she wanted to know everything about the investigation. And Myers honestly couldn't tell if this was because of some morbid curiosity, if it was nerves, grief, or if she really was the arsonist watching the fire she had set. So eventually he told Barbie that the best way she could help the investigation would be to provide a DNA sample. And Barbie said, yes, of course.
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And so Myers had an officer swab her cheek to get the sample. And then after that, he let her go. Part of Myers didn't want to believe that someone could do something so horrific to their own grandmother. After all, Barbara hadn't just been killed, she'd been brutalized.
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But regardless of what he wanted to believe, and even though Barbie had cooperated, Myers still had to consider her a major suspect at this point. She had tried to inject herself into the police investigation, she had a clear financial motive, and she was young and physically capable enough to have easily overpowered her grandmother.
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While Detective Myers continued to focus on Barbara's friends and family, Agent White and state police methodically interviewed staff members and the maintenance crew from the Mount Pleasant Retirement Village. And they also tried to collect voluntary DNA samples from as many employees as they could. But the investigation took time.
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There were so many people to interview just at Mount Pleasant alone that it became clear this case would not be solved overnight. And as the weeks passed by and still they had not caught the killer, Myers and White started to realize their investigation was causing a full-on panic in the retirement community.
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Homicide cases were almost unheard of in Monroe, so Barbara's murder had already shocked everyone in town. But now the people who lived at Mount Pleasant started to believe there was a killer on the loose who was specifically targeting senior citizens. and they feared that the police weren't any closer to finding this killer than they had been on day one of the investigation.
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As the Mount Pleasant residents made their feelings public, the pressure on the police and the company that oversaw operations at Mount Pleasant continued to mount.
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In order to demonstrate that they were doing everything they could to protect their residents, the company that ran the retirement village helped set up a tip line with the Monroe police and even offered a $10,000 reward to anyone who provided information that led to an arrest.
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On December 7th, 2012, so almost a month and a half after Barbara's murder, an officer ran into Myers' office with an excited look on his face. The officer told him there was someone on the tip line and this guy had a bizarre story that Myers needed to hear right now. And so Myers picked up the tip line and he heard the sound of a man who had a strong Kentucky accent.
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The man told Myers that he had no idea if his story would actually help the police, but something had happened over a month ago that he just couldn't shake. The man said that he lived in a small Kentucky town about 150 miles away from Monroe. And not long after Barbara Howe's murder, his brother, a man named Danny French, had come to see him.
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At the dinner table, Barbara broke down the latest episode of Dancing with the Stars, which she watched religiously, and then also the two women caught each other up on what was going on with their kids and their grandkids. Barbara's husband had died about 14 years earlier, and since then she'd lived on her own.
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And Danny had acted really strange, almost like he was saying goodbye for the last time. Now, this conversation with his brother had been disturbing enough on its own, but it was not why this man had called the tip line. The reason he had called the tip line was there was something else about his brother that was off when he had come to say this goodbye.
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The man said his brother had been wearing a Mount Pleasant Retirement Village sweatshirt. Detective Myers asked the man where his brother was because he wanted to speak to Danny right away. But the man said this is actually where things got even weirder because soon after their conversation, his brother Danny had disappeared.
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Immediately following this call, Myers met with Agent White when they reached out to local police in the Kentucky town where the caller lived. But after weeks of searching, the police couldn't find the man's missing brother, Danny French. But then, on January 18, 2013, so two and a half months after the murder, Detective Myers got a call from the cops in Kentucky.
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They said they had found Danny French. And apparently, he'd been living in the woods for months. Myers got in his car and sped across the state line into Kentucky to the local police station where the cops had brought Danny. Danny was big and very intimidating looking, he had long gray hair and a huge gray beard, and he certainly looked and smelled like he'd been living outdoors for months.
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But it wasn't really Danny's appearance that shook Myers the most. Instead, it would be what Danny talked about. When Myers asked him about Barbara Howe, Danny said he didn't know her and had nothing to do with the murder.
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But when Myers asked him why he'd gone to live in the woods, Danny got this glazed look in his eyes and he started talking about how the woods were a fantasy world and a place where people transformed into different things.
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Myers and Danny continued talking, and basically the conversation went in all sorts of different directions, into bizarre things that at times Myers just did not understand at all. It sort of seemed like Danny was sort of unhinged. But by the end of their discussion, despite the bizarreness of what they were talking about, it was clear Danny had to know something about what happened to Barbara.
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Myers just knew it. So when Myers left the station, he got assurances from the local police that they would keep close tabs on Danny. Still, as strange as all this might be, there was nothing actually tying Danny directly to Barbara's murder. So Myers returned to Ohio with another potential suspect, but no evidence.
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But her family, especially her daughters and her granddaughter Barbie, made sure she was never by herself too often. Just then, the landline phone rang, and Barbara shook her head. People calling during dinner time was so rude as far as she was concerned. But she excused herself from the table and walked into the bedroom to grab it.
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This had also been the case with Barbara's granddaughter Barbie and several of the Mount Pleasant employees who Agent White had interviewed. All good suspects, but no evidence. Investigators also received DNA test results of samples taken from multiple suspects and attempted to try to match them to samples found at the crime scene.
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Now, these results did eliminate some suspects, but they did not conclusively point to a killer. And soon, with no new evidence coming in, the investigation started to grind to a halt. Months passed, then a year went by with very few new leads. Myers and White still believed they had a few strong suspects here, but the evidence just wasn't strong enough to make any arrests.
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And so Barbara's case basically went cold. Fast forward to October of 2014, two years after Barbara's murder. Detective Myers sat in his office at the Monroe Police Station working on a different case. Now, he'd not given up on finding Barbara's killer, and both he and Agent White had continued to follow any potential leads.
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But Myers still worked for a small department, and so other cases did need his attention. Just then, Myers heard someone yelling his name, and then he looked up to see an officer rushing into the office with a grin on his face, and he handed Myers a piece of paper.
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Myers looked at the paper and saw a bunch of dates, times, and some handwritten notes, and then he asked the officer, you know, what is this? Why are you so excited about this? And the officer said a lead in the Barbara Howe case that Myers had asked him to pursue had paid off. And this, this sheet of paper, was a copy of the schedule that Barbara's cleaning woman had kept.
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Myers looked down at the schedule, and now that he knew what it was, his eyes suddenly went wide. He told the officer to find this cleaning woman and bring her in right away. He would have to ask her some questions, but Myers was now positive that this schedule finally made it clear who killed Barbara.
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Based on information from Barbara's cleaning woman, DNA test results, and evidence collected over the course of the entire investigation, the following is a reconstruction of what police believe happened to Barbara on the night of October 28th and the early morning of October 29th, 2012.
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The killer sat inside of their parked car, staring out at the homes that lined the quiet streets of the Mount Pleasant Retirement Village. The killer glanced at the clock. They knew Barbara was expecting them any minute, so it was time to move. They grabbed a stun gun sitting on the passenger seat and then stepped outside.
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The killer held the stun gun behind their back as they approached Barbara's house and then knocked on the door. Barbara opened the door and the killer smiled and followed her inside. Barbara walked through the house towards her bedroom and the killer stayed right behind her. And at some point they raised the stun gun, pressed it to her back and pulled the trigger.
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Barbara immediately felt an electric shock. She screamed, she convulsed and fell to the floor. But to the killer's complete surprise, Barbara remained conscious and she was trying to get back onto her feet. So the killer leapt on top of Barbara and hit her in the head and then strangled her. Eventually, Barbara passed out. The killer stood up and picked up Barbara off the floor.
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The person on the phone said they were working in the retirement village that evening to fix and update all of the residents' Lifeline medical alert systems. Lifeline was a device that allowed someone to push a single button in order to get medical help in case of an emergency.
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She didn't weigh very much. The killer then carried her through the house into the utility room near the kitchen. They laid her on the floor, reached down and pulled up the wood panel that hid the crawl space. Once it was open, the killer picked up Barbara and dropped her into the crawlspace. And then they just stood there for a minute, thinking.
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After a little while, the killer simply walked out of the house, leaving the door unlocked behind them. They got in their car, drove off, and parked on a nearby street, where they could still see the Mount Pleasant Retirement Village. And the killer just sat there in their car and waited.
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Hours later, after midnight, the killer saw that almost all the lights in the retirement village had now gone off. It seemed like most residents were now asleep. So, the killer grabbed a long, sharp knife they had left on their floorboard, stepped out of their car, and quickly walked back to Barbara's house. The killer walked inside and went right to the crawlspace.
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They looked in, and Barbara still lay there. She was unconscious but breathing. The killer got on the floor, leaned down into the crawlspace, grabbed Barbara by the hair, and slit her throat. Blood splashed onto the walls of the crawlspace, but the killer didn't stop. They kept slicing and cutting Barbara's neck until they had almost decapitated her. Finally, the killer relented and stood up.
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They grabbed a small rug from the kitchen and slid it into the utility room. They reached down, lifted Barbara out of the crawlspace, and dropped her lifeless body onto the rug. But as they did that, they realized that drool from their mouths had dripped and fallen into Barbara's hair. So they took the bloody knife and cut off that chunk of her hair.
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Then, for the next several minutes, the killer remained in the utility room with the body, living out their wildest and most grotesque fantasies. But at some point the killer panicked, as if they had just realized they might be leaving traces of their own DNA on Barbara's body. So they ran to the cabinet under the kitchen sink and grabbed a bottle of bleach.
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Then they ran back to the rug, took off Barbara's clothes and poured the bleach all over her. Then they grabbed a vacuum cleaner that was in the utility room, opened up the bin and dumped the dust onto Barbara's body. Finally, the killer grabbed Barbara's keys from the kitchen counter, rolled her up in the rug and then carried her outside.
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In the darkness, the killer used the keys to pop open the trunk of Barbara's Cadillac. They dumped her body inside the trunk, but kept the rug. They slammed the trunk door, not noticing part of Barbara's hair was sticking out and that the trunk did not close all the way. The killer ran back into the house, threw the bloody rug into the crawlspace, and covered the space up with the wood panel.
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Everyone who lived at Mount Pleasant had one, and it had a piece of equipment connected to the phone line that sometimes required maintenance. Barbara thanked the Lifeline worker for letting her know, said she'd see them soon, hung up, and went back to the table. Barbara and her friend talked and ate a while longer, and then finished up their dinner.
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Then they ran back outside, locking the door behind them, got into Barbara's car, and drove to an apartment complex in a nearby town. Once there, they abandoned the car and walked down a dark street to a large store that was open all night. From there, they called a cab, got a ride back to a spot that was not far from where they had left their own car.
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They walked back to their car, got in, and then sped across the state line into Kentucky. Danny French, the huge guy with the big gray beard who lived in the woods at one point and had that totally bizarre conversation with Detective Myers, murdered Barbara Howe.
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It would turn out Danny had once been a maintenance worker at the Mount Pleasant Retirement Village, so he knew all about that crawlspace. He also knew that every resident had one of those Lifeline medical emergency devices. So, on the night of the murder, he called three women at Mount Pleasant, posing as someone who was there to fix their Lifeline devices.
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And Barbara was the only one who said he could come by that night to fix it. And as soon as Barbara opened up her door and let Danny into her home, he carried out his plans. From the moment Detective Myers met Danny after he'd been pulled out of the woods for his interview, he had suspected Danny was the killer. Danny told Myers the woods were his fantasy world.
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But the more he spoke, the more it became clear to Myers that, in reality, Danny just had a lot of fantasies, and some of them were very dark and violent. After multiple meetings over several months, Myers convinced Danny to provide a DNA sample. And it would turn out Danny's DNA matched samples found inside of Barbara's house. But there was a problem.
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Danny had been a maintenance worker, so he'd been in that house many times, which could explain why his DNA was there. It was not until police got in touch with Barbara's cleaning woman that they realized there was no way Danny's DNA should still be in her house. because Barbara's cleaning woman kept a detailed schedule.
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It had dates and times, and she liked to list all of the work she had done on those dates and times. And so police knew that Barbara's house had been cleaned thoroughly many times since Danny had stopped working at Mount Pleasant, which meant if his DNA was there now, he must have murdered Barbara.
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In addition to that, police found security camera footage at that store where Danny had called the cab on the night of the murder, and the cab driver was able to identify him. Danny was arrested and he would eventually confess. He was sentenced to life in prison without parole. A quick note about our stories.
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They made plans to catch up again the following week, said goodnight, and then Barbara's friend headed out. Barbara cleared the table and started cleaning up the kitchen right away. She'd been a neat freak her entire life, and she couldn't stand having any kind of mess or clutter in her house.
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When she was finished cleaning, she poured herself a glass of iced tea, walked into the living room, and sat down in her favorite chair. She put her drink down on a small table right by her chair, then she grabbed the remote and turned on the TV. But just as she began flipping through the channels, she heard a knock at her front door.
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The other officers quickly followed him into a clearing, and there they saw a man with a long gray beard sitting in a large self-made camp. It looked like the man had been living out here in the woods for months.
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Two days later, on the morning of October 30th, Detective Greg Myers of the Monroe Police Department took a call at his desk. The woman on the phone quickly introduced herself as Donna Wesselman, and Detective Myers thought she sounded very frantic.
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Donna said she had plans to meet up with her mother, Barbara Howe, later that day, but she'd been trying all morning and she couldn't get a hold of her. And this was not normal. Her mom always answered her cell phone, or at least called back within a few minutes. Donna said she talked to family and her mother's closest friends, and nobody had heard from Barbara in over a day.
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And her mom was 87 years old, so she was really worried that she might have fallen down in the house, gotten hurt, and now couldn't call for help. Detective Myers got Barbara's address and told Donna to meet him there. He would do a wellness check on her mother and make sure everything was okay. After Myers hung up, he headed right out to his car.
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As a veteran detective in a small police department, he was used to handling all kinds of cases. The Monroe PD didn't have things like missing persons or homicide divisions, so the few detectives on the force had to jump in wherever they were needed, including wellness checks like this one.
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As Myers drove past the town's quiet main street, he looked at all the old-fashioned shops that were all decorated for Halloween, and he thought it looked like something out of a classic 1950s horror movie. A few minutes later, Myers arrived at the Mount Pleasant Retirement Village, and he found Donna very anxiously waiting outside of her mother's house for him.
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After reassuring Donna that everything was okay, he'd go in there with her, Donna pulled out the key that she had to her mother's house, she walked up to the front door, and she opened it. The pair walked into Barbara's house, and immediately Donna called out to her mother, but there was no response. Now, at first glance, nothing looked out of place to Detective Myers.
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The officers just stared at him, and they almost couldn't believe it, because they had just tracked down the man who they thought could help solve a murder that had taken place a year earlier in a town 150 miles away.
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He didn't see any signs of forced entry or struggle, which made total sense because he believed Barbara had most likely fallen or gotten hurt while she was alone at the house. Detective Myers and Donna quickly searched every room in the house, but there was no sign of Barbara anywhere.
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But when they came back into the TV room, Donna noticed a glass on a small table and she pointed at it and she had this frightened look on her face. Myers didn't understand. It was just a half-empty glass of what looked like iced tea. But Donna said her mother had to be one of the neatest people alive. She would never leave a half-empty glass on the table like that.
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Detective Myers glanced around the room. Other than the iced tea, he didn't see any other indications that Barbara had been home recently. So he asked Donna if her mother still drove. And she said yes, she did. All the time. Myers led Donna back outside, and as soon as she was out there, she suddenly realized something else was off. Her mother's prized red Cadillac was gone.
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Detective Myers quickly shifted his focus from the house to the missing car. He now worried that Barbara might have driven off the road or maybe gotten into some kind of car accident. She could have been injured and trapped in the car somewhere for almost two days now. He told Donna to go home and wait for his call.
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In the meantime, he'd issue a BOLO, a Be On The Lookout call, for Barbara's red Cadillac. This would go to law enforcement departments all over the area. Myers got in his car and immediately called in the BOLO. He also reached out to the Ohio State Police, because he knew his department just did not have the resources to carry out a full-scale search for Barbara.
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And since she'd possibly been missing now for almost 48 hours, he needed all the help he could get. And he needed it fast. Two days later, on November 1st, Detective Myers sat at his desk, desperately hoping for some kind of lead on Barbara or her missing car. He'd stayed in regular contact with local, county, and state law enforcement agencies, all of whom were aiding in the search.
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But so far, nobody had found anything. He had also continued to update Barbara's daughter, Donna, about the whole situation, and he'd begun receiving regular phone calls from Barbara's granddaughter, Barbie, who was a young adult. In fact, Barbie had become kind of relentless, asking for regular updates and wanting specific details of the police search.
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Myers knew Barbara's family was upset and panicked, of course, and they had every right to want answers from the police. But right from the get-go, something about these calls from Barbie just seemed off to him. Still, at this point, he believed Barbara most likely had gotten into a car accident, so he didn't think too much about why her granddaughter was behaving strangely.
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After all, stress can make people act in all kinds of different ways. At around 1 p.m. that day, Meyer's phone rang, and he finally got the news he'd been waiting for. A state police helicopter had conducted an overhead search, and they had located Barbara's red Cadillac. It was in the parking lot of an apartment complex in the town next to Monroe.
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Detective Myers contacted the local police from that town and then rushed out to his car and drove over to that apartment complex. When Myers arrived, he saw local police officers already on site, waiting for him. And he also saw a man wearing a dark suit getting out of what was clearly an unmarked police car. Myers stepped outside and the man in the suit came over to him.
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The man introduced himself as Agent Brian White of the Ohio Bureau of Criminal Investigation, and he said he was there to help. Detective Myers had been holding out hope that even if Barbara was hurt, he would still find her safe and relatively unharmed. But as he and Agent White walked towards the red car, they feared that that was not the situation.
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Because as soon as they got near the car, they could smell something. It was the smell of bleach. And Myers knew that, almost always, bleach was an indication that somebody had tried to cover up a crime. And as they got closer to the car, they saw the trunk was not completely closed, and clearly the bleach smell was coming out of there.
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And then, once the two officers were standing right behind the trunk, sort of wincing from the bleach smell, they looked down and saw very clearly there were long strands of human hair sticking out of the trunk. At this point, Myers and White put on their gloves and opened up the trunk. And what they found inside was somehow even more horrifying than what they had expected.
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They had already expected the worst. There was a deceased woman laying in the trunk, and they immediately identified her as Barbara Howe. Barbara was almost completely naked, chunks of her hair had been cut off, and there was a strange gray dust covering her body. And her head barely remained attached to her neck. Hey listeners, big news for true crime lovers.
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All they have to do is give you their social security number and credit card information. Okay, let's get into today's story. On the evening of October 28, 2012, 87-year-old Barbara Howe sat at the dinner table with a friend in her house at the Mount Pleasant Retirement Village in the small town of Monroe, Ohio. As the two women began eating, Barbara's friend had a huge smile on her face.
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Police immediately began searching the Cadillac and the surrounding area, but the state forensics team needed more space and they wanted to get the car and Barbara's body into a more controlled environment. None of the small town police departments in the area had facilities to house a car for a full forensic search.
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So the local fire department cleared out space at their station and let the police move the car there. Once the forensics team had the time and space to really get to work, they told Myers and White that the killer had most likely poured bleach all over Barbara's body after she was dead. But the killer had not bleached the trunk or the car.
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And forensics techs said that after the killer covered Barbara's body in bleach, they had most likely emptied out a vacuum cleaner on her. That's where the techs thought that strange gray dust covering her body had come from. But, most importantly, they said they had found some blood in the trunk and the car, but not nearly enough to match the brutal deep wounds on Barbara's neck.
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They said if that kind of attack had been delivered in the trunk or the car, they would have found far more blood than they did. So, based on this, Detective Myers and Agent White believed the murder must have taken place somewhere else, and Barbara had been dumped in her own trunk and then driven to the apartment complex.
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The investigators thought that the most likely site of the murder would have to have been Barbara's house. But Myers had been there for that wellness check, and he hadn't seen any blood or anything that indicated a violent attack had taken place there. That said, Myers knew he could have overlooked something while he was there.
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there hadn't been a reported homicide in Monroe, Ohio in almost a decade. So when Myers had gone to Barbara's house, the thought that Barbara, an 87-year-old woman who lived in an upscale retirement village, had been brutally murdered there had not really even crossed his mind, so he wasn't really looking for indications of a murder.
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So Myers and Agent White gathered up a group of Monroe police officers and Ohio State troopers and went back to Barbara's house to conduct a much more thorough full-scale search. Later that evening, now almost four full days after anyone had seen Barbara alive, Myers, White, and their team walked through Barbara's house, and nothing new really stood out.
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There still didn't appear to be any signs of forced entry or of a struggle of any kind. Detective Myers also found jewelry boxes that were filled with what looked like really expensive rings and necklaces just laying out in the open in Barbara's bedroom. And it didn't look like anyone had touched Barbara's high-end TV or any of the other electronics in the house.
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So it definitely did not appear like someone had come to burglarize the house. And even though Barbara's daughter had talked about how clean her mom was, a glass of iced tea on a table was not enough to prove that something bad had happened there.
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So Myers and White started to think that they would have to expand their search across Monroe and the nearby towns in order to find the location where Barbara had been killed. But as they were getting ready to pack up and leave Barbara's house, they both noticed something at the exact same time. The heater came on in the house and they could feel the heat coming from the floor.
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This meant that there were pipes under the floor that were heating the house. And they knew there had to be a way for maintenance workers to get to those pipes if they needed repairs. So Agent White called out to the team on site and said they needed to search the house for any place that might provide access to the pipes under the floor.
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Later that afternoon, investigator Cruz walked away from the crime scene at the soccer field, got into his car, and began driving across town. And as he drove, he felt very frustrated. Earlier, he'd gotten a call from the station, so he now knew his victim was a college student named Haley Rathgeber. But that was about all he knew.
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He and his team had thoroughly combed the crime scene and the area surrounding it, but almost nothing had come from their search. Not even a single shell casing had turned up. In fact, the only evidence that had been bagged at the scene was that bloody blue towel found next to the body, which the medical examiner was sending off to the crime lab for DNA analysis.
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After a short drive, investigator Cruz pulled into the sheriff's station and he walked in just as Heather, Haley's mom, was arriving. She was there to get more information about what happened to her daughter.
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Cruz very gently approached Heather, who was clearly still crying, and he told her how sorry he was that her daughter was gone, and he promised that he'd find out who did this and bring that person to justice. Cruz understood now was not a great time to sit down and ask Heather a bunch of questions, but he said he did need to ask her one thing.
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Could she think of anyone, anyone at all, who might have wanted to hurt Haley? Haley's mother didn't even hesitate. She looked right at Cruz and said she knew of one person for sure who would want to do this. Thaddeus Rice. When Cruz heard this name, he did a double take. Cruz knew this name very well because Thaddeus Rice was a suspect in another case he was currently working on.
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So now Cruz really wanted to know more if Heather was comfortable still sharing. Heather said, of course, and she proceeded to tell him the whole story. And as Cruz listened to Heather, he knew exactly where the story was going. Because this story was the other case he was investigating. The death of Thaddeus' girlfriend's baby boy.
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Heather told Cruz that Haley suspected Thaddeus might have been directly involved in the death of that baby. And so, Heather said, if Thaddeus knew Haley suspected him, he would have every reason to want to shut her up. Before Cruz could even respond, Heather took her phone out of her pocket and told him she needed to show him something.
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She unlocked her phone and quickly pulled up a message that a friend of Haley's had sent her just before Cruz had arrived at the station. It was a video that Thaddeus had recently posted to his social media. And in this video, Thaddeus is seen posing with a gun.
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Immediately after seeing this video, Cruz thanked Heather for the information, and he turned around, got back into his car, and drove to Thaddeus' workplace. And when he got there, Thaddeus happened to be outside on a break. However, the second Cruz stepped out of his car, Thaddeus waved him away dismissively and said he had nothing to say to him.
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Cruz made it clear to Thaddeus that he was not there to talk about the dead baby. Instead, he was there to talk about Haley. Thaddeus just stared back at Cruz, and Cruz honestly couldn't tell if Thaddeus was confused or scared. Finally, though, Thaddeus said he wouldn't talk to cops without an attorney, and then he turned and walked away.
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Cruz knew he could go after Thaddeus, but he also knew it wouldn't make a difference. Thaddeus was not about to talk to him. Thaddeus had been involved in enough criminal cases to understand his rights. But even without having a long conversation with him, Thaddeus' reaction to hearing Haley's name had just made him seem a whole lot more suspicious.
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Around the same time Cruz was confronting Thaddeus, a young man named Isaiah Hagen sat on his front porch staring at his phone.
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Isaiah was Haley's close friend and co-worker, one of the members of the roadies crew, and right now, he was looking at a series of text messages from other members of that group, specifically his friends Jake and Ainsley, saying that Haley had been found dead by the soccer field just outside of town.
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And so Isaiah was just processing it and beginning to cry, and then right at that moment, he heard his mother inside the house behind him, and he instinctively just got up, went inside, and hugged his mom, and began crying even harder. She asked him what was wrong and Isaiah told her about Haley and his mom couldn't believe what she was hearing.
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She worked for the county sheriff, so she knew all about the young woman who'd been found at the soccer field, but she had no idea this young woman was one of her son's good friends. Isaiah hugged his mother tighter and told her that none of this made any sense because he'd just seen Haley the night before and everything had seemed fine. How could she be dead?
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Isaiah's mom pulled away from him, and she told him she understood how upset he was, but he really needed to go talk to the lead investigator right away, because even if Isaiah didn't realize it, he might have seen something or heard Haley say something last night that could help investigators find her killer.
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Cruz was at the station sitting at his desk looking through Thaddeus' rap sheet when his phone rang. He picked up the call, and Isaiah introduced himself and said that his mother worked at the sheriff's station. Cruz asked if everything was okay, and Isaiah said he was calling about his friend Haley, the girl who'd been found at the soccer field.
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He explained to Cruz that he had just seen Haley the night before, and he wanted to help if he could. Cruz told Isaiah that he could help by walking him through everything he remembered from the previous night. This would help Cruz flesh out the timeline of Haley's final hours.
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Isaiah told Cruz that the night before, he had been at his friend Jake Allen's place playing video games when he got a text message from Haley. And in this text, she said she was going to meet someone at a local park where the college students sometimes hang out. And she asked Isaiah if he could give her a ride because she didn't want to leave her car there.
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Isaiah said that was no problem, so he had left Jake's place, went to Haley's, hung out with her for a minute, and then drove her to the park. Isaiah told Cruz he had no idea who she was meeting, he said he didn't ask her about it because it felt like it was none of his business, especially if she was meeting up with some guy who she was romantically involved with.
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Isaiah said after he dropped Haley off, he just went back to Jake's house and kept playing video games until very early in the morning. Inspector Cruz kept listening and writing everything down, but then suddenly Isaiah just went silent, and Cruz could hear him trying to catch his breath. And when Isaiah started talking again, it was clear he was very upset.
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He told Cruz he felt really guilty now and he wished he had asked Haley who she was meeting because maybe he could have done something to protect her or at a minimum today been able to provide the police a suspect. Cruz told Isaiah that he appreciated him calling in and that he would follow up if he had any questions.
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After getting off the phone with Isaiah, Cruz quickly scanned the list of co-workers that Haley worked with at the Texas Roadhouse, and just as he remembered, there was Jake Allen's name and a phone number right next to it. And so Cruz called Jake and asked him if he could verify the times he had hung out with Isaiah the night before. And Jake corroborated Isaiah's story.
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But while speaking to Jake, Investigator Cruz looked up Jake's address and he saw that Jake lived very close to the park where Isaiah said he dropped Haley off. And that park was only a few miles from the soccer field where Haley was found dead. And so, Cruz began to question Jake about his own activities the previous night, and pretty quickly, the call took a very weird turn.
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Now, Cruz considered all of Haley's friends and coworkers to be possible suspects, but he really thought this call might just be a chance to cross Jake off his list. But Cruz noticed that Jake suddenly started to sound very nervous and defensive as soon as his actions were called into question. Jake insisted that he hadn't seen Haley at all the previous night.
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In fact, he hadn't seen Haley since work that afternoon. He said he had invited her and their other friend Ainsley over to hang out, but they both had declined. And then after talking about Haley for a minute, Jake suddenly shifted gears back to Isaiah, saying he thought it was very strange how Isaiah would just drive Haley out to the park and leave her there.
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Cruz let Jake keep talking, but he wondered if Jake had something to hide, and if that's why he was throwing suspicion onto his friend Isaiah. After hanging up with Jake, Cruz went back to his list of everyone who had worked at the roadhouse with Haley.
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Up until this call, Cruz had really only been focused on Thaddeus, who didn't work at the Roadhouse, and he definitely still considered Thaddeus a major suspect with a very clear motive. But now, Cruz felt like he really should put some additional attention on the Roadhouse employees, specifically Jake and Isaiah.
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On the afternoon of Sunday, April 23rd, 2017, 20-year-old Haley Rathgeber walked across the busy dining room of the Texas Roadhouse Restaurant in Evansville, Indiana, carrying two plates of hot food from the kitchen. Haley stopped at a table near a window and set the plates down in front of a pair of customers. Then she gave a big smile and told them to enjoy the meal.
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On the evening of April 26th, so two days after Haley's body had been found, Cruz and a couple of members from his team arrived at Jake's apartment. Cruz knocked on the door and Jake's roommate answered. Cruz introduced himself and asked to speak to Jake.
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The young man turned and shouted for Jake, looking a little freaked out that a bunch of cops had just shown up at his door, and then the roommate walked away. A few seconds later, Jake approached the door wearing a dress shirt with an untied tie hanging on the collar. Cruz said he was the detective who had talked to Jake on the phone, and he needed to ask him a few more questions.
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Jake said he understood, but he was getting ready to leave for a candlelight vigil some friends and family were having for Haley. This made Cruz pause for a second. His investigation wasn't even two days old, and he'd been going pretty much non-stop since it started, and he'd almost overlooked how young Haley was and how many people her death must have affected. Still, Cruz needed some answers.
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He told Jake he would do his best not to keep him too long, but he needed Jake to go through everything he had done after he'd seen Haley at work on the day she died. And just like Jake had said to Cruz on the phone, he said after work he had gone home and met up with Isaiah to play video games. It was basically the same story.
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However, during this in-person exchange, Jake also said something about Isaiah that really stood out to Cruz and made him look at the case very differently. Cruz took notes on everything Jake told him, asked a few follow-up questions, and then he and his team left so Jake could get ready for the vigil.
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That night, a huge group of Haley's friends and family gathered by the soccer field where Haley had been found. The candles they lit cast a glow over the otherwise pitch-black parking lot. They laid down flowers, shared some of their favorite memories, and just talked about how much Haley had meant to all of them.
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Her closest friends from work left Haley's name tag and her Roadhouse cap and sweatshirt right next to a big handmade sign that simply said, We love and miss you. Love, your roadies. On April 27th, the day after the vigil, Inspector Cruz received word from the crime lab that the results had come in on the bloody blue towel that had been found next to Haley's body.
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Only one DNA profile was found on the towel. And much to Cruz's disappointment, it was Haley's. Cruz had hoped he would catch a break and that these results would lead him right to the killer. But now that he knew that was not going to happen, he methodically went through his list of Haley's friends and coworkers another time.
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Thaddeus, who remained one of Cruz's primary suspects, still refused to say anything without a lawyer. But almost everyone else who had known Haley was willing to help and tell Cruz whatever they could. And the more Cruz spoke to Haley's friends, the more convinced he became that he was much closer to solving this case than he had initially thought.
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Because a lot of Haley's friends said things that pointed him in the same direction. So Cruz came up with an idea of how he might be able to track Haley's movements before she got to the soccer field where she was ultimately found.
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He got in his car, headed to Haley's neighborhood, and just started knocking on the door of every house or apartment complex he saw that had a security camera or a doorbell with a video camera. He asked anyone who answered if he could have the footage from their cameras to help him solve a crime. And everyone he spoke to said he absolutely could.
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But as Haley walked back towards the kitchen, she happened to glance up at the clock on the wall. And when she saw the time, her smile totally disappeared and she felt this jolt of anxiety. Haley knew in a little under an hour, her shift would be over and she would no longer have work to take her mind off this insane secret that she was keeping from almost everybody she knew.
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And so after Cruz collected all of that footage from Haley's neighborhood, he did the same exact thing in Thaddeus' girlfriend's neighborhood, which is where Thaddeus spent most of his time. Over the next couple of days, Cruz sat at the station and sifted through hours upon hours of security footage that he had collected.
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The experience began to remind Cruise of the old cliche about watching paint dry, and at times, Cruise felt he'd much rather be looking at a freshly painted wall than at endless grainy footage of houses and apartment buildings in suburban Indiana.
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Cruise kept fighting off sleep and tried to keep his eyes glued on the footage as hours passed by without anything eventful happening until he hit paydirt. For a second, Cruz wasn't even really sure he was seeing what he thought he was seeing. After all, watching this footage for so long, it basically sent him into a daze. So he rewound the footage and watched it again.
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And this time he was sure he did see something that would help him close the case and bring Haley's murderer to justice. Cruz watched more footage to make sure he wasn't missing something. He also worked with his team to collect cell phone data and he carried out a few more interviews just to be certain he was on the right track.
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And on April 29th, just five days after Haley's body was found, Inspector Cruz knew he had found Haley's killer. He arrested them, and after that, he discovered exactly what had happened to Haley on the night she died.
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Based on surveillance footage, interviews, and evidence gathered throughout the investigation, the following is a reconstruction of what police believe happened to Haley Rathgeber on the night of April 23, 2017. Around 10.30 p.m. that night, the killer fished a 9mm handgun out of the closet and then left to go meet up with Haley.
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Just a couple of hours earlier, the body of a young woman had been found in a field one town over, and police still had no clue who the young woman was. Now, the physical description was vague, but it matched all three of the mother's daughters. So right away, she picked up her phone and began trying to reach each of them to make sure they were okay.
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Haley got into the killer's car and the killer began driving her to the soccer field, just outside of town. When they got there, Haley and the killer stepped out of the car and began walking across the gravel parking lot near the field, with only the headlights of the killer's car and the flashlight on Haley's phone to light the way. As they walked, the killer let Haley walk ahead of them.
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And without Haley noticing, the killer silently drew their 9mm handgun, raised it up, aimed, and fired a single shot into the back of Haley's head. Haley stumbled, and the killer took several steps back and watched as she fell. Haley collapsed onto her back. The only part of her body that was working now was her left leg, which she jerked back and forth in the gravel as her brain slowly shut down.
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The killer just stood there and watched as Haley died. And in that moment, for a second, the killer felt bad about what they had just done. But regardless, after she was dead, the killer turned away from the body, went back to their car, and grabbed a blue towel they happened to have in the back seat.
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The killer then walked back to Haley's body, knelt down, and used the towel to wipe up some of the blood. After that, they put the towel down and then scooped up Haley's phone off the ground. They also reached into her pocket and pulled out her wallet, which contained $200 in cash.
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Earlier that month, one of Haley's best friends, a young woman named Jordan Hughes, had lost her 10-month-old baby in a devastating accident. Jordan's boyfriend, who was not the baby's father but was helping take care of him, had been home alone with the baby.
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And then the killer stood up, took one more look at the body, and then turned and ran back to the car, carrying their gun and Haley's stuff with them. Later that night, the killer went to their friend's place and hung out playing video games all night without ever showing the slightest hint of what they had just done. Haley's close friend and fellow roadie, Isaiah Hagen, was her killer.
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Isaiah, whose mother worked for the sheriff's department, had called Inspector Cruz and tried to make it look like he was helping the investigation. And Isaiah's call even threw some suspicion on his friend Jake for a time. However, when Cruz and his team met with Jake on the night of the candlelight vigil, Jake started talking about his friend Isaiah.
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He hated to admit it because the two young men had been really close for years, but Jake said Isaiah had been acting really strange lately. And this was because Isaiah had run into some serious money problems. It turned out that leading up to the murder, Isaiah had borrowed hundreds of dollars from his father and from Haley.
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While Haley had not confronted Isaiah about the money he owed her, Isaiah's father wanted to get paid back. So Isaiah decided to take the money he owed his dad from Haley. On the night of the murder, Isaiah was the one who texted Haley while she was studying and asked her if they could hang out because he really wanted to talk to her.
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And Haley decided she needed a break from studying and from everything else that was going on in her life, so she said yes. Isaiah picked Haley up, but he never drove her to the park to meet someone else like he had told police. Instead, he drove right to the soccer field and shortly after getting out of the car, he shot and killed her.
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It's not clear if Isaiah first tried to just ask Haley for the money and, you know, maybe she refused to give him money and that's what led to the murder, or if Isaiah simply picked Haley up with every intention of murdering her for the money. Either way, it resulted in Haley's death and Isaiah stealing the $200 out of her wallet.
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In the morning following the murder, right before sunrise, Isaiah drove around town getting rid of his gun and Haley's belongings, and then he went back to his house and left the $200 from her wallet on the kitchen counter for his dad. After speaking to Jake in person, Cruz really began to suspect that Isaiah was the killer.
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He'd strapped the baby into a car seat and started walking down the stairs in the house when he suddenly tripped over a diaper bag and he and the baby both went tumbling down the steps, which ultimately resulted in the child's death. Or at least, that's what he had told his girlfriend Jordan and the police.
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But he still could not just write off Thaddeus, a man who had a criminal history, had potentially harmed or even killed a baby, and who Haley had been afraid of before she died. So Cruz collected cell phone data for Haley and also for both Isaiah and Thaddeus, and he also studied all the surveillance footage he had collected.
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Isaiah and Haley's cell phone data showed that they had at least been near the same locations, including the soccer field, at the same time on the night of the murder. And the surveillance footage showed Isaiah pulling up to Haley's place not too long before she was killed.
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The footage also showed that Thaddeus had been at his girlfriend's house at the time of the murder and throughout the entire night. And so even though the murder weapon was not recovered, Cruz felt confident he'd cracked the case and he arrested Isaiah.
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Isaiah insisted he would never hurt Haley and that he was innocent, but during his trial, his mother was put on the witness stand and she testified that Isaiah had privately admitted to her that he'd been the one who shot Haley. He had told his mother it was an accident, but the evidence in the case did not support that. It took the jury only four hours to find Isaiah guilty.
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In early August of 2018, he was sentenced to 60 years in prison. Thaddeus, who Haley believed had played a part in the death of his girlfriend's baby, was eventually found guilty of neglect of a dependent and reckless homicide in the death of the child. A quick note about our stories.
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Jordan had gotten the news quickly about her child and rushed to the hospital, hoping her baby would survive, and she told Hailey everything that had happened and asked Hailey to go to her house to pick up some things for her and bring them back to the hospital. But when Hailey got to Jordan's house, she quickly realized that the story Jordan's boyfriend had told them didn't make any sense.
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The diaper bag that the boyfriend had supposedly tripped over was neatly placed on the couch, and it looked like it had never even been used, let alone tripped over in this dramatic fashion that the boyfriend had described. Haley had also noticed there was no scuff marks on the stairs or the nearby wall.
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Nothing anywhere inside the house appeared to be damaged or in disorder, and practically everything she saw seemed to contradict the boyfriend's story. And so by the time Haley had left Jordan's house, she was convinced that Jordan's boyfriend, a guy named Thaddeus Rice, was lying.
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And when the baby had eventually died at the hospital, Haley felt almost positive that Thaddeus had something to do with the baby's death. Back in the busy restaurant, Haley grabbed more food from the kitchen and delivered it to one of her tables.
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For some reason, whenever she was helping customers or talking to her close friends she worked with, a small group that called themselves the Roadies, she could totally block out everything she'd seen in Jordan's house. The second she closed out her final table, Haley felt like she might have a panic attack right there in the middle of the restaurant.
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Haley took a seat at the restaurant bar and tried to catch her breath. She removed her work apron and then reached inside the front pouch of the apron and pulled out a thick wad of cash, her tip money for the night. She slipped the cash into her jeans pocket and just kept taking deep breaths, trying as hard as she could to calm herself down.
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Haley suddenly felt a hand on her back and she turned and saw her friend and coworker, Ainsley Bowles, take the seat next to her. Haley had only shared the secret with two people, her mother and Ainsley.
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And while Haley's mother had told her to go talk to the police immediately about Thaddeus, Ainsley understood why Haley still had not done that, because Ainsley and Haley were both afraid of Thaddeus. He was their friend's boyfriend, so they had always tried to get along with him, but they knew Thaddeus had a criminal record and had been involved in at least one rape case.
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Ainsley asked Haley how she was holding up, but before Haley could answer, another member of the roadie crew, Jake Allen, walked up to the bar and announced that he was hosting a small hangout after he got off work, and if anybody wanted to come over and have drinks, they were welcome. He said so far, their friend and fellow roadie, Isaiah, would be there, but he was hoping more people would come.
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Her two youngest girls replied within minutes, but the oldest one of them did not. And with every minute that passed by without a word from her, the mother became more and more frantic until she finally reached out to a friend of hers on the police force.
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Haley thought about it for a second. Now, she loved hanging out with Jake and Isaiah and the rest of the Rhodey's crew, and specifically with Jake and Isaiah, she would typically confide in both of them about everything, like she did with Ainsley.
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But right now, she just didn't want to tell these guys what was going on with her, because Jake and Isaiah could be very protective of Haley and Ainsley, and she didn't want them doing anything stupid or drastic once they learned about her theory around Thaddeus and the baby. Also, Haley and Ainsley had a big exam in one of their college classes the following morning.
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And so ultimately, Haley and Ainsley thanked Jake for the offer, but said they would both have to pass this time. Jake said he totally understood, but if either of them changed their minds, they knew how to reach him. Jake returned to work, and Haley and Ainsley stayed at the bar.
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And at some point, in a voice barely above a whisper, Ainsley asked Haley if she was going to finally tell Thaddeus' girlfriend, or the cops, about her suspicions. Haley looked down and said she still had no clue. Every time she thought about it, she got so scared about what Thaddeus might do to her.
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Later that evening, Haley was at her apartment alone, studying for her big exam and still trying to keep her mind off of everything else, when she heard her phone vibrate on the table. She put down her notes, looked at her phone, and saw a text message. After reading it, Haley thought about it for a second.
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She knew she really should keep on studying, but this diversion might help her relax for a bit. So she picked up her phone and replied to the message, and then afterward, she headed to the bathroom to put on some makeup and also change out of her t-shirt and sweats and put on a pair of jeans, a long-sleeved shirt, and a jacket. She was ready to go out.
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The next morning, so April 24th, a woman was driving her daughter to school along the route she always took. She knew this route so well, in fact, that sometimes she found herself zoning out completely while driving it, almost like she was on autopilot.
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And what she would soon learn before the morning ended would change her family's life forever and change the course of two separate police investigations. But before we get into that story, if you're a fan of the Strange, Dark, and Mysterious delivered in story format, then you've come to the right podcast because that's all we do and we upload twice a week, once on Monday and once on Thursday.
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But on this morning, as she approached the soccer field that stood out from the endless grassy overgrowth that surrounded the area, something caught this woman's attention. At first, she couldn't make out what she was seeing. All she could tell was that there was something strange in the soccer field's gravel parking lot.
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And then as she continued down the road and got a little bit closer and realized what she was seeing, the woman slammed on the brakes and told her daughter to wait in the car. The woman got out of her car and ran over to the soccer parking lot, hoping maybe her eyes had just played a trick on her and she hadn't really seen what she thought she saw.
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But when she got closer, she knew she had been right. She grabbed her phone and called 911. About 15 minutes later, so just after 7 a.m., Warwick County Sheriff's investigator, Paul Cruz, pulled up to the soccer field, got out of his unmarked police car, and made his way past the yellow crime scene tape.
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Cruz greeted the deputies and members of the forensics team who had arrived shortly before him. Then he walked past them and continued a bit further across the lot, and there he saw a young woman lying dead in the gravel.
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Cruz knelt down next to her and saw a wound in the back of her head, which clearly looked like it came from a gunshot, and he also saw a blue towel that was covered in blood lying next to her. Cruz scanned the ground near the body, and he didn't see any drag marks or anything to indicate that this young woman had been taken to this location by force.
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He and the forensics team would obviously need to do a lot more work, but for now, Cruz figured the most logical explanation was that this young woman had been walking through the lot when someone approached her from behind and shot her. Cruz looked around the lot and got an eerie feeling. He didn't see a single streetlight or lamppost anywhere in sight.
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This area was totally desolate, so if this young woman had been killed last night or early in the morning, it would have been pitch black here. Cruz had no idea why this young woman was walking through this dark parking lot, but he did know it would have been really easy for someone to follow her without ever being seen.
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Cruz crouched down over the body again, and he noticed an area of bare gravel on both sides of one of the dead woman's legs. It almost looked like she had made a partial snow angel in the gravel with that leg. And this really upset Cruz, because it likely meant that this young woman had not died immediately after being shot. She had fallen to the ground and squirmed before dying.
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Cruz stood back up and stepped away from the body and then asked a crime scene investigator if he or anyone else had found a wallet or any kind of ID at the scene. But the crime scene investigator just shook his head. The dead woman had nothing on her. No wallet, no cell phone, no keys, nothing. They had no idea who this victim was.
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Later that morning, about 15 miles away from that soccer field, Haley's mother, Heather Collins, poured herself a mug of coffee, sat down on her front porch, and opened up her laptop. Heather began by scrolling through Facebook, which she did every morning. But, as she read through the posts in her feed, she began seeing something that disturbed her.
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All her friends from town were posting the same story from the local news. It was about this unidentified young woman who was found dead that morning outside of town. Heather's kids were three young women, all close in age, and so Heather immediately felt the maternal instinct to check on them and make sure each of them was okay.
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And so she promptly sent text messages to her two youngest daughters, and then also to Haley, her oldest daughter. And within minutes, her phone lit up, and Heather was relieved to see responses from her two younger girls. But she didn't get a response from Haley.
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However, she wasn't surprised, because she knew Haley had an important exam that morning, and Haley usually prioritized school over anything else. But an hour went by, and Heather still had not heard from Haley, so she called Haley's phone. The call went straight to voicemail. Heather left her daughter a message, trying to disguise how worried she was starting to feel.
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The next 30 minutes slowed to a crawl, as Haley still didn't get in touch with her mother. And so finally, Heather picked up her phone again, and she called Haley's friend, Ainsley, who went to the same college as Haley. Ainsley answered, and before Heather could even explain why she was calling, Ainsley asked her what was going on.
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She said Haley had not shown up to class that morning and missed the big exam. When Haley's mother heard this, she immediately felt sick to her stomach and had this horrible sense of dread come over her. Heather hung up and began talking aloud, trying to soothe herself. This was not her child out by the soccer field. It couldn't be her. It can't be her.
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Heather kept repeating this over and over again like a mantra, trying to convince herself that Haley was really safe, but it didn't work. So, after desperately waiting to hear back from Haley for a bit longer and still not hearing from her, Heather grabbed her phone once more and called a friend of hers who happened to be a detective for the Evansville Police Department.
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And when the detective answered, Heather told him that she had heard the news about the unidentified body and she couldn't get in touch with her daughter Haley and she was now really worried. Heather's detective friend told her that given where the body was found, that this case was actually out of his jurisdiction.
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However, he did have some contacts at the Warwick County Sheriff's Office, and he said he would call them to see what he could find out. Heather provided her detective friend a physical description of Haley. She had long, light brown hair with blonde highlights, and her teeth were always really bright white.
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Heather also told the detective the type of clothing Haley typically wore, and she sent him pictures of Haley's tattoos. Then she hung up and waited. A short time later, Heather's phone rang. It was now the Warwick County Sheriff's Office calling, and when they spoke to her, they said they actually wanted to speak to her in person.
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Haley's mother immediately began to shake, and she felt the blood drain from her face. She could think of only one reason why they would want to talk to her face to face, and she just wanted to curl up and die. Anything but face the news she knew she was about to hear. A short time later, Heather heard a knock on her door.
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When she opened it up, she saw it was deputies from the Warwick County Sheriff's Office. Heather immediately began to shake all over and she felt the blood drain from her face. And as soon as she heard one of the deputies utter the words, I'm sorry, Heather broke down and collapsed to the floor. Her daughter Haley was dead. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp.
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Goff put on his gloves and he was quickly joined by several forensics officers. And together, they carefully dug into the snow and leaves until they revealed the frozen dead body of a young woman. As soon as he saw her, Goff closed his eyes and took a deep breath. He really was almost always unflappable, but seeing something like this on Christmas of all days just shattered him.
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Goff walked away from the body, collected himself, and then he called Joe's parents to tell them he believed he had just found their daughter's body. Later that morning, after the body had been positively identified as Joe's, Goff and several forensics officers stood by the wall, staring down at Joe. Goff wondered if maybe this was just a terrible accident.
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Maybe Joe had left her flat in a rush without her coat on, slipped on the snowy ground, and suffered some sort of injury that killed her, or that immobilized her and then she died of exposure. And because it had been snowing, her body would have quickly been covered and would have gone unnoticed.
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As Goff crouched down and searched the area around Joe's body, a few pieces of evidence jumped out at him. Joe was clothed, however, her shirt had been pulled up around her neck, exposing one of her breasts. He also saw bruising on her throat. And so right away, this did not seem like something that would happen from a fall. It looked like something that would happen in a sexual assault.
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Also, Goff noticed that Joe had on only one sock, but more specifically, he saw the bottom of her bare foot and the bottom of the sock on the other foot were totally clean. There was no dirt, no leaves, or any other sign that she'd been walking around in this area. It was like she'd been dropped here.
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Goff heard somebody call his name, and he turned to see a forensic biologist crouch down looking at the wall nearby, gesturing to him. Goff joined her, and she immediately pointed to a section of the wall. Goff looked and he saw there were blood stains running vertically up this one section of the wall, almost from the very top to the bottom. He looked at the forensic biologist a bit confused.
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She told him that these stains were not the kind of blood spatter that would occur from an attack. Instead, these were stains that would have been left when someone tried to lift Joe's bloody body over the wall and failed. Goff stood up and peered over the wall. On the other side was just a big field full of trees.
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Had someone been able to actually dump Joe's body onto the other side of the wall, meaning had they not failed to get her over, there was no telling how long it would have taken for someone to finally find her. Goff exhaled and he could see his breath hanging in the air. The way Joe's body had been found and the bloodstain on the wall made it pretty clear this was no accident.
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He now had a murder investigation on his hands. Goff also felt sure that Jo had not been walking along this road when she died, so his first thought was that she had been murdered somewhere else, probably near her flat, and then driven and dumped here. Goff knew the forensics team had a lot of work to do.
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However, they seemed very optimistic that the snow and the low temperatures had helped preserve the body, and so they hoped they'd be able to find blood or other DNA samples that might lead them to Jo's killer. So Goff left them to it, got in his car, and headed back to the station. Now that he was investigating a murder, he knew where he had to start. With Joe's boyfriend, Greg.
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That night, so Christmas night, Goff sat across from Greg inside of an interview room, and the young man looked like a total wreck. He told Goff this was supposed to be the first Christmas he and Joe were going to spend together, and he couldn't believe this was happening. However, as upset as Greg was, he was very cooperative throughout the interview.
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He gave Goff all the details of his weekend trip again, he again told the story of what had happened when he first came home, and he agreed to submit DNA samples. After that, Goff let Greg go. Since Greg was the victim's boyfriend, the detective would not completely cross him off the suspect list.
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However, Goth had already followed up on Greg's alibi after they met that first time, and it had checked out.
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Also, because there was no surveillance footage of Jo after she had gone inside of her flat and then disappeared, Goff believed the only person who could have carried out this murder would be somebody who lived basically inside of that building that the flat was in, because that's the only way they would escape being seen on camera, going in and out of her place.
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And because this case was now all over the news, lots of other people in the United Kingdom were beginning to speculate the same thing. the killer must have been inside of that building when Joe went into her flat. But before Goff could even decide what to do about this theory, he got a phone call.
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On the other end of the line, he heard the sound of an older man's voice, who was speaking with a very proper, posh English accent, and this man quickly introduced himself as Chris Jeffries, Joe and Greg's landlord and upstairs neighbor. and Chris told Goff that he had seen the news about the discovery of Joe's body, and he believed he had information that would help.
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He said on the night Joe went missing, he had seen a few people he did not recognize walking along the side of the house. In the days following this phone call, Goff followed up on the details of Chris's story, and the detective got the feeling that the landlord was not telling him the whole truth.
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The landlord, Chris, had been aware of the investigation since the moment police showed up after the 999 call. In fact, members of Goff's investigative team had taken a statement from Chris because he owned the building Joe lived in and was her upstairs neighbor. Now it struck Goff that during that initial meeting, Chris had not mentioned these strangers he'd supposedly seen near the house.
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Chris had also told investigators that on the night Joe went missing, he said he'd spent the entire night at home. However, since that initial conversation, Goff had reviewed additional surveillance footage.
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And late on the night of December 17th, the last night anyone had seen Joe alive, Goff saw a car on that footage that looked a lot like Chris's car driving across a nearby suspension bridge, indicating he had not been home the whole time. So, on December 30th, five days after Joe's body was discovered, Goff met Chris at the police station and escorted him directly to an interview room.
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Chris had long white hair and he wore a sports coat and carried this small leather satchel. He sort of looked like an eccentric professor. Goff sat down at a small table across from Chris and asked him how his relationship with Joe had been. Did he have any issues with her? But Chris just shook his head. He said Joe and Greg were a nice couple and good tenants.
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He said the worst he could say about them was that sometimes their cat got out and found its way upstairs to his place. Goff asked Chris what he'd been doing on the night of December 17th, the night that Joe went missing. Chris immediately looked confused. He said he'd been home the whole night and hadn't seen anything unusual, just like he'd already told police.
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Now, Goff didn't raise his voice or even change his facial expression, but he said to Chris, "'Hey, that's not true.'" Chris had called and said on the phone that he had noticed some unusual strangers walking by the house." And so he asked Chris, why hadn't he told the police about those people when they first spoke to him? Now, a worried look came across Chris's face.
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He said he had only come here to help, but now it felt like he was being accused of something. But Goff just asked him again, why hadn't he told the police about the people he saw by the house? Chris kind of shook it off. He said it was the holidays and people in the neighborhood were having parties, so it didn't seem strange to him at the time that people were walking by the house.
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For a minute, there was just silence between the two men. And then Goff finally said, on December 17th, surveillance cameras had caught a car that looked just like Chris's car driving across the suspension bridge that was the main route between Joe's flat and the location where her body was found. Chris looked totally stunned. He said there had to be a mistake. He never left his flat that night.
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It was too dangerous. It was snowing and the roads were bad, so he didn't want to leave his house. At this point, Goff just excused himself and walked out of the room. In all honesty, he really didn't know if Chris was guilty. Chris had easy access to Joe's flat, and that car on the surveillance footage could possibly be his.
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This was just too much to ignore, and so Goff needed a bit more time to fully dig into Chris's background and his seemingly flimsy alibi. Under British law, in the case of serious crimes like murder, police can apply to a magistrate to hold potential suspects for 36 hours without charging them. Goff felt confident a magistrate would allow him to hold Chris. And Goff was right.
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That night, police arrested Chris, took a DNA sample, and transferred him to a jail cell in a nearby facility. And for the first time, Goff felt like he had a legitimate suspect. The following morning, which was New Year's Eve, Goff sat at his desk, staring at the front pages of multiple tabloid newspapers.
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Goff was very annoyed, because despite all of his team's efforts to hide it, news about Chris's arrest had gotten out. Goff flipped open one of the papers, and as soon as he did, he got even more upset. The paper had basically decided that Chris had murdered Joe. It was not just that he was arrested, but no, he was the killer. And their proof, well, just how he looked and how he spoke.
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However, as upset as Goff was about this, the tabloid headlines actually ended up benefiting his investigation. Because that morning, while Goff waited to secure a search warrant for Chris's flat, he got a phone call. This caller said his name was Vincent Tabak and he lived in the building right next to Joe's that also happened to be owned by Chris.
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Vincent said he had seen Chris's car earlier that night facing one direction and the following morning, Chris's car was facing the opposite direction. When Goff heard this, he started to get excited.
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If he could prove Chris was lying about staying home on the night Joe went missing, he might be able to definitively link Chris's car to the one he'd seen on the suspension bridge in the surveillance footage. After Goff hung up, he immediately asked a detective on his team to follow up with Vincent to see if he might have seen or heard anything else that night.
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And then soon after that, Goff got the approval for his search warrant, and so he and his team headed over to Chris's upstairs flat. It was New Year's Eve, and as Goff drove across town, he believed he might actually be able to close this case before people all across the country popped open champagne bottles and welcomed in 2011.
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When Goff and his team walked inside of Chris's upstairs flat, it felt like they'd stepped into a library. The walls were lined with shelves that were overflowing with old books. Goff told his team to split up and begin their search. And it didn't take long before one of them called out from the kitchen.
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And so Goff and the other officers walked into the kitchen and they found that officer sitting on the floor holding something that he'd found tucked under one of the kitchen cabinets. When Goff bent down to get a better look, he thought he was looking at the smoking gun that would wrap this case up. because the officer on the floor was holding a pair of trainers, the British word for tennis shoes.
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And one of these trainers looked like it was stained with blood. Even the normally calm and collected Gough could not hide his excitement. Between the shoe, the call from the next door neighbor, and the surveillance footage from the bridge, Gough felt like he was close to having enough evidence to build a strong case against Chris.
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And so officers bagged the trainer and had it sent off to the crime lab for expedited testing. And by the following day, which was New Year's Day of 2011, the lab came back with the test results. And on the same day, the lab also reported that they had run tests on DNA samples they'd found on Joe's clothes and skin.
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And when all these test results came in, Goff knew that they had found Joe's killer. Based on DNA evidence, surveillance footage, and interviews conducted throughout the investigation, here is what police believe happened to Joe Yates on the night of December 17th, 2010. Around 8.45 p.m., the killer stood outside of Joe's front door holding her cat.
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The killer clutched the cat close to their chest so it wouldn't dart off and then knocked on Joe's door. Joe opened the door, saw the cat and immediately smiled. She apologized for the cat's behavior and thanked the killer for bringing her cat back. The killer said it was no problem, leaned in through her door and put the cat down.
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And as the cat trotted off towards Joe's kitchen, the killer lunged at Joe, pushed her further into the front room and slammed the door behind them. Joe screamed, but the killer immediately covered her mouth while they shoved her through the flat towards the bedroom.
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Joe tried to fight back, but it was happening so quickly, and the killer threw her onto the bed, pulled her shirt up around her neck, and grabbed at her chest. Joe struggled, and one of her socks fell off in the fight. The killer tried to keep her pinned down, but Joe let out this loud scream, desperately hoping somebody would hear her and save her. The killer panicked and punched her in the face.
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Blood ran down Joe's cheeks. Then the killer just wrapped their hands around Joe's throat and squeezed. They sat on top of Joe, strangling her violently for over 20 seconds until Joe stopped breathing and died. The killer got off the bed and walked to the front room. They could hear the cat walking around in the kitchen, but other than that, there wasn't any noise coming from the outside.
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The killer took a steadying breath, hoping they had somehow managed to keep Joe quiet enough to not get detected. And so the killer just sort of stood there for a long time, listening and planning their next move. About an hour after the killer had arrived at Joe's, they went back into the bedroom, picked up Joe, and carried her to the front door.
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With Joe in their arms, the killer opened the door, quickly locked it from the inside, then they stepped outside and closed the door behind them. Then they rushed to their car, opened up the trunk, and dropped Joe's body inside. Then the killer got in their car and sped across town in the snow. When they reached a dark, empty road with the wall running alongside it, they pulled over and got out.
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They scanned the street and saw nobody was nearby, so they carefully opened up the trunk, picked Jo up, and carried her over to the side of the road near the wall. The killer tried to lift Jo's body over the wall, but they just couldn't do it. She was too heavy. And so her body slid down the wall, leaving bloodstains on the wall from her face and neck.
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Finally, the killer just dropped Jo onto the snowy ground. They piled more snow and leaves on top of her, and then ran back to their car and drove off. A few minutes later, they stepped back inside of their flat, hoping nobody had seen what they just did. Despite what some people in the media had already decided, Joe's landlord, Chris Jeffries, had nothing to do with Joe's murder.
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It would turn out Joe's next-door neighbor, Vincent Tabak, had killed her. Vincent was the one who had called police to say he believed that Chris, who also happened to be his landlord, had driven off in his car on the night Joe was killed, that he was lying about being in his flat the whole time. Vincent had called police after reading about Chris' arrest in the tabloid newspapers.
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He thought it was a great opportunity to distance himself from the crime and solidify the police's belief that Chris was the killer. Now, when Goff spoke to Vincent, he learned that Vincent was in the Netherlands celebrating Christmas, meaning he was not home. Now, this didn't mean he was guilty, but it struck Goff as just a little bit suspicious, and so he wanted to follow up with Vincent.
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So, Goff contacted authorities in the Netherlands, and then Goff sent a detective from his team out to the Netherlands to meet with Vincent in person. Now, the interview itself did not provide any new information. However, the detective was able to get Vincent to submit a DNA sample.
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When the test results for the trainers that had been found in Chris's flat came in from the crime lab, it would turn out that even though there might have been blood on them, there was no connection to the murder at all. However, the DNA samples taken from Joe's body and clothes that the crime lab had just tested as well did match the sample that Vincent had provided.
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After these results, Goff went back to the surveillance footage of the suspension bridge that was near the road where Joe's body had been found. The car in that footage was not Chris's after all, and police would soon discover that Vincent had taken a different, less direct route to the road, which is why he was never seen on camera.
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At 6 p.m. on Friday, December 17, 2010, a 25-year-old woman named Jo Yates sat drinking and listening to Christmas music at the Bristol Ram Pub with some of her co-workers in Bristol, England. Jo, who was a landscape architect and her co-workers, were regulars at this pub. But tonight, they were there specifically to celebrate an early Christmas together.
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Goff secured a warrant and he and his team searched Vincent's apartment. While they didn't find any specific evidence pertaining to the crime there, Vincent had been watching violent pornography on his computer, most of which featured men assaulting women and strangling them. After police arrested Vincent, they would learn that he didn't really have any real relationship with Jo.
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He had just seen her around the neighborhood and thought she was pretty. He had also brought her cat back to her in the past. But over time, Vincent developed a violent obsession with Jo. He wanted to have sex with her and strangle her. And as Christmas of 2010 approached, Vincent decided he didn't want to wait any longer to act on this obsession.
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And when he saw Jo's cat outside on December 17th, he saw his opportunity. Vincent showed up at Jo's flat, returned her cat, and then killed her. Vincent was found guilty of murder and was sentenced to life in prison with a minimum of 20 years.
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As for Joe's landlord, Chris Jeffries, who was all but proclaimed guilty in much of the UK media, he's spoken at length in interviews telling his side of the story and saying how all he had wanted to do was help the police solve a horrible crime.
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Jo sipped her cider and looked out the window at the falling snow. The sun had just set, and the snowflakes seemed to glow under the streetlights. This, along with the holiday decorations on the shops outside, made the whole street look like the cover of a Christmas card.
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Jo looked away from the window and joined in on the conversation with her co-workers, who were talking about their various holiday plans. Jo said she was very excited because this was the first Christmas she was going to spend with her boyfriend, Greg Reardon.
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Greg had gone on a weekend trip, but when he got back, they were going to spend a week with their family and then travel, just the two of them, to Scotland for Hogmanay, which is like a Scottish New Year's celebration. As Jo spoke about Greg, she couldn't help but smile. A few years earlier, she'd been a university student just trying to figure out what she was going to do with her life.
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And now she had a great job, she had a perfect little flat, and the man that she loved, Greg, had recently started talking about getting married. Life was perfect. At about 8 p.m., so two hours after Joe had gotten to the pub, she wished all her coworkers a happy Christmas. She got up from the table, put on her long cream-colored coat, and headed outside into the snow.
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The detective inspector reached the wall, crouched down, and started digging through a pile of snow and leaves. And when he saw what was underneath this pile, he knew he would not be spending Christmas with his family.
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It was cold, about 27 degrees Fahrenheit, or almost negative three degrees Celsius, but Joe was used to the winter weather. She pulled her coat collar up around her neck and started walking home to her flat, which was about a 30-minute walk away.
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After walking for a while, Jo ducked into a convenience store to grab a frozen pizza, and then after that, she went into a small shop called Bargain Booze and bought two bottles of cider. And so now, with her food and drinks in hand, Jo continued the walk home.
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She knew her flat would feel empty without Greg there, but she was still looking forward to spending a relaxing Friday night with her cider and her pizza, and of course, her cat. A little after 8.45 p.m., Jo finally approached her flat, which was a basement unit in an old stone house. Jo and Greg's landlord, a retired English teacher, lived in the unit right above them.
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Jo unlocked the outside door that led directly into her flat, and then she walked inside and put her food and drinks on the kitchen counter. She took off her coat and hung it on a hook near the door, slipped off her boots, and then called for her cat. But after calling for him, she didn't hear him clacking across the hardwood floor like she expected.
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She looked all around the flat, but she couldn't find him anywhere. Jo shook her head and went back to the kitchen. Her and Greg's cat was a bit of an escape artist. He frequently got out. Their landlord had found their cat in his place upstairs several times, and also, the cat had even made it across the small front garden to their next-door neighbor's place before.
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And so Joe felt confident the cat would come home when he got too cold. And so for now, she just grabbed a cider, cracked it open, and sat down in the front room. And after she'd only taken a couple of sips, she heard a knock on the door. Joe hoped it was her landlord returning her cat. So she got out of her chair, opened the door, and when she saw who was there, she gave a huge smile.
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On the night of December 19th, so two days after Joe had met her coworkers at the pub, her boyfriend Greg got back to their flat after being gone for the weekend. He unlocked the flat door, walked inside, and put his bag down on the floor. He was about to call out for Joe, but he heard a strange sound coming from the kitchen.
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His and Joe's cat was meowing, but it sounded like the animal was afraid or angry. Greg walked into the kitchen, and he saw the cat pacing back and forth in front of an empty food bowl. This was really strange because Joe always made sure that bowl was full. And so Greg scooped some cat food out of the bag, dumped it in the cat's bowl, and then walked to the bedroom looking for Joe.
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However, she wasn't there. Greg figured she must have gone out with friends or something. He had messaged her when he was heading home and he hadn't heard back yet, but he really hadn't thought much about it. However, when he stepped back into the front room, he actually looked around for the first time, and at this point, he did start to get worried.
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Greg saw Joe's coat, her boots, and her purse right there in the room. He knew how cold it was, and so Joe would never have left, at least not without her coat, and she definitely would not leave her purse behind.
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Greg grabbed his phone and called Joe, and as he did, he suddenly felt a chill come over him because he heard the sound of her phone ringing inside of her coat pocket right in front of him. Now, Greg started to panic. Joe was one of those people who never went anywhere without her phone.
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and so he immediately dialed 999, the emergency number in the UK, and he told the operator that his girlfriend, Jo Yates, was missing. In the early morning of December 20th, about four hours after Greg called 999, Detective Inspector Jo Goff of the Avon and Somerset Police walked into the flat. D.I.
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Goff had been a police officer for over 20 years, and as such, he'd learned to remain even-keeled in almost every situation. He spoke in a soft, low voice, and the look on his face almost never gave anything away. Goff greeted a few uniformed officers who had arrived before him and walked over to Greg, who was standing in the front room looking frightened.
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The detective understood why Greg might be upset, but he didn't want to jump to any conclusions. Now, it was clear Greg's girlfriend had not been home when Greg got there, but besides that, the police didn't have a whole lot of information about what was even going on here. And so Goff introduced himself to Greg and asked him when was the last time he spoke to his girlfriend.
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Greg said that he had seen Joe a couple days earlier before he left town, but he hadn't talked to her since. Goff asked if it was odd that he would go two full days without speaking to his girlfriend. but Greg just shook his head and said no. He'd been busy while he was gone, and he figured Joe had been busy too, getting ready for Christmas, so that's why he must have missed her when he'd called.
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While Goff listened to Greg, he scanned the room. He could see Joe's coat, boots, and purse. Just like Greg, he did think it was strange that Joe would go out and leave all of those things behind. But still, this didn't prove a crime had occurred here. Goff also noticed two cider bottles sitting on a small table. One had a couple of sips gone, and the other looked untouched.
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Goff asked Greg if there was anything about Jo, like physical attributes or places she liked to frequent, that might point police in the right direction as they began the search for her. Greg gave a basic description of Jo. He said she was average height, had short blonde hair, and blue eyes. And he said she'd been hanging out with co-workers the night he left town at a pub called the Bristol Ram.
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Goff jotted all of this down in his notebook, got details of where Greg had spent the weekend, and then joined a couple of officers in the kitchen. After spending a few hours in the flat, Goff and the other officers had not found anything that stood out to them.
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There was no sign of forced entry, no sign of a struggle, and at least according to Greg, the front door had been locked when he got home. Goff told his team to speak to the landlord who lived upstairs and also to Joe's other neighbors to see if anyone had seen her in the last couple of days.
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For now, Goff was treating this as a missing persons case that he hoped would have a clear explanation and a happy ending. For all he knew, Jo had just left town without telling her boyfriend. Maybe she was with the person she'd gotten one of those ciders for. And maybe she took a different coat and purse with her and accidentally forgot her phone.
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I mean, it was just a thought, but either way, Goff felt confident he could retrace Jo's steps from the moment she left the pub and he could find her. Later that day, Goff sat at the station, poring over CCTV surveillance footage from locations between the Bristol Ram Pub and Joe's flat. Britain has more surveillance cameras per person than almost any other country in the world.
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This is why Goff felt so confident he'd be able to see exactly where Joe had gone on the last night anybody had heard from her. And he would be right. Using footage from storefront and street cameras, Goff followed Joe's walk out of the pub and through Bristol.
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Footage from inside the convenience store showed her buying the pizza, and he saw her go into Bargain Booze and walk out with two bottles of cider. Goff later picked her up on a street camera in her neighborhood that showed her walking towards her flat.
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So, it looked like Jo had just gone home after going to the pub, and Goff could see she was wearing the coat and carrying the purse that had been found inside of her flat. However, Goff couldn't find any surveillance footage that showed Jo back on the street after she had gotten home. It was like she had gone inside of her flat and then just vanished.
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And when the entire day went by without any of Jo's friends or family hearing from her, Goff began to think that Jo very likely did not just ditch her boyfriend and leave town. And so Goff went to meet with Jo's parents, and when he did, he suggested they reach out to the press for some help. On December 21st, two days after Greg had reported Joe missing, Joe's parents went on the local news.
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They said they loved their daughter dearly and they asked anyone who might have helpful information to please come forward. By the following day, Joe's story had hit the major newspapers in London and her picture was being shown on TV news programs all throughout the United Kingdom. And soon, the story of the pretty young missing woman had become a public obsession. At 9 a.m.
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on Christmas morning, so over a week after Joe had gone missing, a couple was walking their dog down a snow-covered street that was about three miles away from Joe's flat. All of a sudden, the dog stopped, sniffed the air, and then looked over to the side of the road.
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The couple glanced in the direction the dog was staring, but all they could see was a stone wall standing several feet high that separated the road they were on from a field filled with trees on the other side. The man tugged on his dog's leash to try to get the dog moving, but his wife told him to actually stop. And then she walked over to the wall and knelt down to see what was there.
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And when she looked, she saw something bright buried beneath the snow and a pile of leaves. And as she leaned in closer, she screamed. It's officially 2025, and this year I plan on really focusing on my health. I'm going to start to really take stock of what I put into my body, and that means a lot more hydration and healthy eating, which means no more midnight snacks and no more binging carbs.
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Hey Prime members, you can binge eight new episodes of the Mr. Ballin podcast one month early and all episodes ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today. In 2002, two days after Halloween, a police officer stepped out of a house in the small town of Navasota, Texas.
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There were also no signs of a break-in, which made sense considering Lonnie kept his back door unlocked. But that also meant whoever killed Lonnie likely knew in advance he did not lock his back door. So it seemed like a working theory was whoever killed Lonnie knew him personally and maybe had some kind of vendetta against him.
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As he was thinking this over, Detective Higginbotham heard Lonnie's brother, Lawson, still sobbing outside in the yard. And so Higginbotham got up and headed out to question him. Lawson was clearly distraught, and he started by just repeating everything he'd already told Officer Bailey. And like Officer Bailey, Detective Higginbotham found his story to be very suspicious.
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The idea he looked in his brother's room and didn't notice his brother's body or the blood on the wall just didn't make any sense. So Higginbotham leaned forward and asked Lawson a much more pointed question. Did he own a gun? Without hesitating, Lawson said yes. He actually had it in his car right now.
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Lawson led Detective Higginbotham to his car and pointed at a pistol that was just sitting out in the back seat. But the detective saw right away the gun was a .32, not a 9mm, so it very likely was not the murder weapon. But Higginbotham did not think that proved Lawson was innocent. So he decided to bring him to the station, not for more questioning, but for a test.
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Once they were at the police station, Higginbotham had Lawson's hands swabbed for gunshot residue. The idea was to see if he had fired a gun recently, like that evening. but the results came back negative. Lawson did not have gunshot residue on his hands.
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However, that didn't totally rule out the possibility that he had fired a gun that evening because Lawson could have fired a gun with gloves on, or he could have just vigorously washed his hands afterwards. And so because Detective Higginbotham didn't have any other evidence against Lawson, he had to let him go for now.
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But the detective was not totally disappointed because he had another person of interest waiting for him right down the hall. In a nearby interview room, a Texas Ranger was already questioning Lonnie's son, Junior. Detective Higginbotham joined their session and began observing Junior's behavior. Unlike Lawson, who'd been devastated by his brother's death, Junior seemed strangely calm.
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And his story also seemed very suspicious. According to Junior, when he'd seen the blood on his dad's wall, he had immediately assumed that his dad was shot and killed, even though he didn't hear gunshots or see shell casings, and he didn't check to see if his dad still had a pulse.
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Junior claimed this was all just gut instinct, but Detective Higginbotham thought it sounded more like Junior already knew what had happened before he'd ever stepped foot into his father's room. But again, Junior swore that was not true. He said he'd been terrified that whoever had shot his dad was still in the house, so he grabbed one of his own guns to protect himself.
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And then to prove his story, Junior pulled a handgun from his belt and placed it on the table. Higginbotham was stunned. Civilians were not supposed to be allowed to bring weapons into police stations. The detective didn't even know how Junior managed to get the gun inside. But regardless, Junior having a gun during his interview definitely did not make him look any less guilty.
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However, when Detective Higginbotham took a closer look at the weapon, he saw it was not a 9mm. But still, if Junior owned an arsenal of handguns, the detective figured there could be a 9mm in there somewhere. So, just to be safe, Detective Higginbotham also had Junior's hand swabbed for gunshot residue.
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Lonnie was the owner and head mortician of the Jones Funeral Home in Navasota, Texas, which is a small town just north of Houston. Lonnie had already drained the blood from the body and filled its veins with embalming fluid. Once he wrapped up the haircut, he dressed the body and then applied makeup before moving it into its casket for the wake that afternoon.
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And this time, the test came back positive, which would typically mean that Junior fired a weapon that night. But once again, the results were inconclusive because in theory, Junior could have gotten that residue on his hands simply by handling the pistol he brought into the station.
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Higginbotham was weighing this possibility when he got a call from the team of investigators who were still collecting evidence of the crime scene. They'd just found the cache of guns under Junior's mattress. And one of them was a nine millimeter pistol. Now, it would have to be tested against the shell casings found at the crime scene, which would take time, but it could be the murder weapon.
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And when Higginbotham confronted Junior about this, Junior's response shocked the detective. Because Junior claimed that that specific 9mm gun had actually disappeared from his collection several weeks ago. He had no idea how it had gotten back under his mattress. To the detective, this excuse sounded ridiculous. But he asked Junior if, when the gun went missing, did you report it missing?
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And Junior said no. At this point, Junior's story seemed to be getting flimsier and flimsier. But one thing prevented Detective Higginbotham from arresting him on the spot. Junior claimed to have an alibi. He said he had spent most of the night hanging out with his girlfriend.
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They ate at a restaurant, then headed to her place for a few hours, and then on his way home after the date, he stopped at a car wash. Higginbotham wrote down Junior's girlfriend's name, as well as the name of the car wash, so he could look into the alibi later. In the meantime, he let Junior go, but promised they would speak again soon.
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The next morning, Detective Higginbotham made several calls to verify Junior's alibi, and pretty much everything Junior had said checked out. He'd definitely been to his girlfriend's house and the car wash, but there were still small gaps in his schedule where he theoretically could have had time to go home and kill his dad. The detective sighed.
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Junior and Lawson both had such unbelievable stories. He was sure one of them was lying, but he just couldn't tell which one. Just then, the phone on Detective Higginbotham's desk rang. It was the district attorney, and he had big news. A police officer who'd been cataloging evidence at Lonnie's house had gone on a smoke break.
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And when he did, he found a pair of gloves and a makeshift mask lying in a creek just 25 yards from Lonnie's front door. Detective Higginbotham's eyes went wide. He knew that if Lonnie's killer had worn that mask, it would probably still carry trace amounts of their saliva, which would contain their DNA. Testing the mask for DNA would take time, but it could potentially solve the case.
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Higginbotham ended the call feeling much more optimistic about the case. He arranged for DNA samples to be collected from Junior and Lawson so he could compare them to the mask. But almost as soon as the detective did that, he received another phone call and this one sent him in a totally different direction.
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That call was from a Texas Ranger who said he'd done some digging and he had discovered a criminal case involving Lonnie from a few months before his death. Apparently, a thief had stolen several blank checks from Lonnie's office, then made them out to himself, forged Lonnie's signature and stole close to $8,000 from Lonnie's account. Lonnie found out and pressed charges.
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When he was done, Lonnie headed down the hallway and up the steps to his office. The whole time he walked, his feet ached. Lonnie was only 54, but lately he'd been feeling exhausted from his job and from all the volunteering he did outside of work. As he reached the sitting area outside his office, he looked at the photos that lined the walls.
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And because he pressed charges, this meant the police had copies of those fraudulent checks. And those checks had the thief's name written on them. The thief was Lonnie's 19-year-old godson, James White. After speaking to the Texas Ranger, Higginbotham asked around and learned that James White worked part-time at the funeral home.
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Evidently, Lonnie had forgiven him for the theft, but Detective Higginbotham didn't think that made James trustworthy. In fact, he thought that James could be just as strong of a suspect as Junior and Lawson. James was close to the family. He likely knew that Lonnie kept his back door unlocked. He also might've even known where Junior hid his guns.
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And so Detective Higginbotham knew he needed to question James immediately. So he made some calls, and before long, he managed to track James down. James seemed very upset about the death of his godfather, but he was very cooperative and answered all of the detective's questions. And he admitted to forging the checks, but vehemently denied any involvement in Lonnie's death.
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And like Junior, he had an alibi for the night of the murder. James said he had been at a club in a neighboring town with some friends who would all be able to confirm the story. Detective Higginbotham promised to contact them. Then he thought back to the masks that had been found outside of Lonnie's home. And he asked if James would be willing to provide a voluntary DNA sample.
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And right away, James said yes. Higginbotham collected a DNA sample from James and then headed back to the DA's office. When he got there, he sent James' DNA to be tested alongside the mask, just like Junior's and Lawson's. After that, he went into his office and he found a report on his desk. It was from the ballistics lab.
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They'd analyzed the shell casings from the crime scene and the 9mm pistol found under Junior's mattress. And they had confirmed what Detective Higginbotham already suspected. Junior's 9mm gun was in fact the murder weapon. Reading this, Detective Higginbotham was ready to arrest Junior right then. But when he asked the district attorney for approval, he said no.
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The DA said it was too early to make an arrest. With all the attention Lonnie's murder was getting, their case needed to be airtight. So before they made their move, they had to wait for the results of the DNA test on that mask. Detective Higginbotham knew there was always a chance the DNA test results could be inconclusive and get them nothing.
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So he continued to investigate his main suspects, and he kept an especially close eye on Junior. And in the weeks following his father's death, Junior went on a massive shopping spree with his inheritance. He bought an expensive boat and a luxury car, and he also hired a lawyer, even though he had not been charged with anything.
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This only made the detective more certain that Junior had to be guilty. And he was about to march into the DA's office and ask for permission to arrest Junior again, but he knew what they'd say. He would need more evidence. But then, two months after Lonnie's death, Higginbotham heard from a fellow detective that a different suspect was also behaving erratically.
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Lonnie's godson, James, had been caught trying to rob a bar. And during the robbery, he hit the owner of the bar with a cash register. Clearly, James was hard up for cash and willing to go to extreme and violent lengths to get it. With this, Detective Higginbotham found himself feeling totally overwhelmed by all the evidence against each of his potential suspects.
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There were pictures of Lonnie with the town mayor, the Chamber of Commerce, and the Navasota School Board. He was the first African-American member of the Navasota City Council, and just two years ago, he'd received the Citizen of the Year Award from the Chamber of Commerce. The plaque hung on the wall just outside his office, and every time he looked at it, he felt a swell of pride.
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However, all this evidence was kind of all over the place. He couldn't really put it all together. And so he went into his office, sat down at his desk, and went back over all the information he had about James Lawson and Jr., James was a known thief with access to Lonnie's house. He could have easily gotten inside and killed Lonnie during a robbery gone wrong.
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However, no valuables had been taken from the crime scene, which didn't seem to add up if the motive was burglary. Then there was Lawson. He was literally in the house when police arrived, and his story about looking in his brother's bedroom and not noticing the blood on the wall or the body on the ground was hard to believe. And finally, there was Junior.
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He shielded his eyes from the early morning sunlight, then ducked under the band of yellow tape that surrounded the house. This officer had been working all night and really needed a break. So he went down to the sidewalk and lit a cigarette. And as he smoked, his eyes fell on a muddy ditch that ran alongside the street, and he saw something in the ditch that just seemed out of place.
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Junior owned the murder weapon and had gunshot residue on his hands on the night of the murder. And also, the fact that he fled the crime scene before verifying that his father was actually dead still just didn't sit right with Detective Higginbotham. And most importantly, Junior stood to benefit the most from his father's death.
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With Lonnie out of the way, he inherited a significant amount of money and a successful funeral home business. And so Detective Higginbotham was sure he was so close to figuring out who killed Lonnie. And sure enough, just a few days later, the DNA test results from the mask came back. And when Higginbotham saw them, he knew the case was solved.
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Based on the evidence collected at the crime scene and interviews conducted throughout the investigation, here is a reconstruction of what police believe happened to Lonnie Turner on the evening of November 1st, 2002. That night, sometime between 9.15 and 10 p.m., the killer drove into Lonnie's neighborhood with their headlights off.
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They parked outside of Lonnie's house, then put on their gloves and their mask, a mask they had made earlier by cutting holes in a gym shoe bag. Now, if all went according to their plan, no one would see them tonight. But if somebody did catch a glimpse of them, the killer could not afford to be recognized.
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And so as an extra safety measure, the killer grabbed a nine millimeter pistol that they'd brought with them and then stepped out of the car and hurried towards the back of Lonnie's house. When they got to the porch, they reached up and unscrewed the porch light bulb just enough to break the circuit and kill the light. Then the killer reached for the doorknob and as expected, it was unlocked.
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The killer headed inside and went straight for the master bedroom. They knew the thing they'd come here for was inside of that room. They reached the door, turned the knob, and carefully pushed the door open just a crack. The killer peeked inside. He saw Lonnie was lying in bed, snoring. The killer watched Lonnie for several seconds.
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They knew entering the room was risky, but at this point, they'd come too far to turn back now. So eventually, they pushed the door open further and began to go inside. However, the killer only got one foot into the bedroom before the door made a loud creaking sound. The killer froze.
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They looked over at the bed, and to their horror, Lonnie stopped snoring, sat up suddenly, and looked right over at them. For a moment, the two just stared at each other. The killer had no idea if Lonnie could recognize them with their mask on, but Lonnie looked like he was about to stand up and confront them. So in a panic, the killer raised their gun and fired.
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But when he went into his office, Lonnie's smile quickly faded. Because his 21-year-old son, Junior, was sitting in Lonnie's chair with his feet up on Lonnie's desk, talking loudly nonstop into his cell phone. Lonnie tried to get his son's attention, but Junior just clearly ignored him. So Lonnie just stood there, arms crossed, giving his son a very stern look.
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Lonnie screamed and the killer immediately fired again and Lonnie went limp and then rolled off the bed onto the ground. The killer was so shocked by what they'd done that they didn't even wait to see if Lonnie was dead. Instead, they just turned and ran out of the room, completely forgetting the thing they'd come here for.
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And the killer was almost out the door and out of Lonnie's house when they realized they couldn't just flee the scene while carrying the murder weapon. So they ran back inside, went to another bedroom, lifted up the mattress, and dropped the gun underneath.
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After that, the killer sprinted out the back door, tore off their gloves and mask, tossed them in a nearby ditch, and then jumped into their car and sped away. In their panic, the killer never considered the fact that they had been breathing through that mask the entire time they were in the house. So they didn't realize that that mask was full of their DNA.
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And so if investigators got the mask, it would lead them directly to the killer. When Detective Higginbotham saw the DNA test results, he knew the killer was not Lonnie's son, Jr., who owned the murder weapon, and it wasn't Lonnie's brother, Lawson, who was in the house when police showed up. Instead, the killer was James White, Lonnie Turner's 19-year-old godson.
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James was desperate for money and willing to do just about anything to get it. And he'd been to Lonnie's house countless times, so he knew Lonnie kept the back door unlocked and he kept a safe full of cash in the master bedroom. He also knew where Junior kept his gun collection. So, James planned a robbery.
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He bought a pair of gloves and made that makeshift mask, and then two weeks before the murder, he stole the 9mm pistol from under Junior's mattress. Not because he wanted to kill Lonnie, but just in case anything went wrong. Finally, on the evening of November 1st, James put his plan into action. But when the bedroom door creaked and it woke Lonnie up, James knew he was caught.
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So he shot Lonnie in a panic and then ran away without even taking any money, even though Lonnie's safe, which contained $7,000 in cash, was sitting unlocked not far away, which means James killed his godfather for nothing. James was arrested and quickly confessed to pulling the trigger. He also admitted that he'd convinced his friends to lie about his alibi.
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However, James insisted that the crime was not actually his idea. He claimed Lonnie's son, Junior, had literally forced him to commit the murder at gunpoint because Junior wanted his inheritance. However, there was no evidence suggesting that actually happened. Ultimately, James White would make a plea deal and received a 20-year sentence.
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Finally, Junior stopped talking on the phone and turned to face his dad. But instead of saying hello to him, he told his dad that he was about to register for the Texas Mortuary Law Exam, which he had to pass to get his mortician's license. And getting that license was the very first step for Junior to be able to take over the family business, something Lonnie was all too aware of.
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Now, Lonnie knew part of Junior probably just wanted to get out of his father's shadow. It had to be hard sometimes when your father was one of the most well-known people in town. But as much as Lonnie did want to hand over the funeral business to his son, he wasn't going to do that until he felt certain that his son could actually handle it.
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Because currently, his son acted really immature basically all the time. And so instead of Lonnie reacting to what his son had just told him about taking this mortuary exam, Lonnie just said, okay, well, there's still work to be done here at the funeral home.
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And then before Junior could protest, he told him he had to move their latest client's coffin into the chapel for the wake, he needed to order more embalming fluid, and get the company car washed. Then Lonnie threw the car keys to his son, and after Junior grabbed him, he just stood up and stormed out of the office looking totally annoyed. But Lonnie didn't care.
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He was tired of his son's bad attitude and entitled behavior, and he knew he needed to be tougher on Junior. If he didn't, he felt like Junior's habit of being sort of lazy could land him in serious trouble. Just then, Lonnie heard voices coming from outside of his office. He peeked into the hallway and he saw his son talking to another young man. It was 19-year-old James White, Lonnie's godson.
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James had grown up around Lonnie's family and had always looked at Lonnie like an uncle and a junior like an older brother. Now, James worked part-time at the funeral home with both of them. But as Lonnie listened to this conversation that was going on, he realized his son was telling James to do several of the tasks that Lonnie had literally just assigned him.
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And he'd caught Junior doing this before, paying James extra to do work he wanted to avoid and taking advantage of the fact that James looked up to him and would basically do whatever he asked. And this made Lonnie furious because he didn't give Junior tasks just to keep him busy. They were a way of preparing him to take over this business.
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For Lonnie, this was just further proof that his son was not ready for serious responsibility. Lonnie sighed, but he didn't confront his son or James. He just let them do their work and then told them to leave early. Once they were gone, Lonnie spent the afternoon making preparations for upcoming funerals and speaking to grieving family members.
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By the time he could finally head home, he was totally exhausted. After locking up the funeral home, Lonnie drove through downtown Navasota towards a small neighborhood at the edge of town. When he pulled up in front of his big two-story house, it was dark outside. He parked and walked around the house to the back porch.
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He walked over and crouched down to examine the object, and when he saw what it was, his heart began to race. It was a mask. Now, under normal circumstances, finding a mask two days after Halloween wouldn't be that strange. But this was not the kind of mask you would buy at a costume shop, and the officer had found it 25 yards away from the site of a murder.
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The light was on and the back door was unlocked, just like Lonnie always left it. He went inside and noticed that Junior wasn't home yet. Lonnie assumed he was out with his friends, like usual. So Lonnie just turned on the TV and made himself some dinner. He ate, watched some local news, and then spoke to a client on the phone around 9.15.
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They talked for a few minutes, and then after that, Lonnie headed to bed. And he was so tired from work that day that he fell asleep pretty much immediately. And he was sleeping soundly when suddenly there was this loud creaking noise that woke him up. Lonnie sat upright in bed, confused, and before his eyes could adjust to the darkness, he heard something else, the sound of breathing.
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Someone else was in the room with him. A couple hours later, just before midnight, Lonnie's son, Junior, pulled into the driveway outside the house. As always, he walked around to the back porch as well. But when he got there, he noticed the porch light wasn't on, and it typically was. And so he checked the bulb and actually found that it was slightly unscrewed.
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So he tightened it until the light came back on. After that, he opened the unlocked door and went inside. He headed upstairs to his bedroom, but on the way there, he noticed his father's bedroom door was open. Now his dad always slept with the door shut and it wasn't like him to be up this late. So Junior called out and asked if everything was okay, but there was no response.
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So Junior walked closer to the open door and peeked inside. But when he did, he saw his dad was not in bed. Instead, Lonnie was lying on the floor beside the bed, perfectly still. And on the wall above him was a huge dark red streak of blood. Junior just stared for a moment in shock and then immediately turned and sprinted to his bedroom.
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There, he lifted up his mattress, revealing a collection of handguns, and he grabbed one at random. He jammed the gun into the waistband of his pants and then fled down the stairs. Junior burst through the back door, jumped into his car, and started speeding towards the nearest police station. As he drove, he used his cell phone to call 911.
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When the dispatcher asked what the emergency was, Junior told them his dad had been shot and killed. When they asked if he had checked for a pulse, he admitted that he hadn't. He said he'd left in a hurry because he was scared whoever had killed his dad might still be in the house. Hey listeners, big news for true crime lovers.
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While Junior was speeding to the police station, an officer named Rob Bailey was patrolling the town. It had been a quiet night, that is until his radio crackled and dispatch told him that a deadly shooting had just been reported at an address on the edge of town and the shooter might still be inside the building.
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And Officer Bailey immediately recognized the address because like most officers on the Navasota Police Force, he knew Lonnie and the entire Turner family personally. and so he sped to Lonnie's house praying that his friend was okay. When he got there, he parked and headed straight to the backyard because he knew Lonnie always went in through his back door.
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But while he was rounding the house, he saw something that made him stop in his tracks. The lights were on downstairs, and he could see someone moving around inside. Now, part of Officer Bailey hoped that this shadowy figure was Lonnie himself, and that despite the report of a deadly shooting here, that Lonnie was somehow okay. But he knew that wasn't likely.
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So if that's of interest to you, please clear the follow buttons browser cache so they lose all their saved passwords, then reset them all to complicated patterns of random numbers and letters. Okay, let's get into today's story. On the morning of November 1, 2002, a 54-year-old man named Lonnie Turner stood inside the back room of a funeral home, carefully trimming the hair on a dead man's head.
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More likely was this shadowy figure was the shooter. And so with his hand on his sidearm, Officer Bailey carefully walked to the back porch and knocked on the back door. There was a long moment of silence, then he heard footsteps from inside. The door opened, and when Officer Bailey saw who was standing there, he was confused. He recognized the man. But it wasn't Lonnie Turner.
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It was Lonnie's brother, Lawson, which was very unusual because the officer knew that Lawson lived almost three hours away. And as for Lawson, he also looked confused to be seeing a police officer standing at the door. And when Officer Bailey told him that he was actually here responding to a possible shooting, Lawson looked even more bewildered.
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He said he didn't know anything about a shooting and said he had only arrived a few minutes ago and found the house totally empty. Officer Bailey didn't know what to make of that, but he asked Lawson to please wait outside and then Officer Bailey went into the house.
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Bailey went straight to Lonnie's bedroom, and there, just as Junior had described it, he would find Lonnie Turner laying on the ground beside the bed with the wall streaked with blood behind him. Bailey leaned down to check his friend for a pulse, but there wasn't one.
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Officer Bailey just stood there for a moment, struggling to process the fact that his friend and one of the most respected men in the city was dead, most likely murdered. A moment later, Officer Bailey collected himself and radioed for backup. After that, he remembered that he had a possible suspect waiting outside. Officer Bailey rushed downstairs and out into the backyard.
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Lawson seemed eager for news about whatever was going on, but Officer Bailey wasn't sure how much he should say. He was a patrol officer, not a homicide investigator, so he was kind of out of his depth. But he still felt like he had to do something. So he asked Lawson what he was doing at his brother's house.
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Lawson said he was on his way to Houston and he was planning to spend the night at his brother's house to break up the drive. He said he'd gotten to the house just a few minutes before Officer Bailey did. And when he'd gone inside, he'd called out for Lonnie, but no one had answered. He'd even looked in Lonnie's bedroom and didn't see him.
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So he figured Lonnie was out dealing with some funeral home business and would be back soon. And listening to this, Officer Bailey literally couldn't believe what Lawson was saying. The walls in Lonnie's bedroom were literally covered in blood and his brother's body was literally laying on the floor in front of him.
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It didn't make sense that Lawson could have looked inside that room and not noticed those things. So even though Officer Bailey was not a detective and was not in charge of this case, he wanted to see how Lawson would react to the news of his brother's death. So he just came right out and told him. And when he did, Lawson looked shocked and then totally devastated, and then he broke down sobbing.
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Officer Bailey watched him, trying to judge if his tears were genuine, but he couldn't tell. But just then, Officer Bailey looked up and saw headlights approaching the house. Detective Travis Higginbotham parked in Lonnie's driveway. Higginbotham worked for the district attorney's office and had been appointed as the lead investigator on this case.
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He already knew that the murder of a local celebrity would garner plenty of attention. And also the fact that the Texas Rangers, who were the state police, had been called in to help on this case only made it more high profile. And so for Detective Higginbotham, he knew this case could either make his career or break it.
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Higginbotham got out of his car and met up with Officer Bailey in the backyard, and he was surprised to see another man was sitting outside and crying. Officer Bailey quickly explained the situation, and the detective agreed that Lawson seemed suspicious. But before Higginbotham could even begin to think about that, he needed to go inside and survey the crime scene.
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He went to Lonnie's bedroom and took note of the trajectory of the blood spatter on the walls. Then he examined Lonnie's body, and the detective found two bullet casings from a 9mm pistol nearby. Given the location of the wounds and the fact that there was no gun anywhere in the room, it was fairly obvious this couldn't be a suicide.
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So, Detective Higginbotham started looking around for clues about a possible motive for murder. Nothing in Lonnie's bedroom, or the rest of the house for that matter, had been disturbed. Lonnie's wallet and his watch were out in plain sight, and there was also $7,000 in cash in an unlocked safe. So it didn't seem like the motive for this was robbery.
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Late one afternoon in the summer of 2014, a pawn shop owner was updating his inventory logs when the bell above the front door jingled. A young couple walked inside and approached the counter, and the young man said he had a few items to sell. But then he proceeded to open a drawstring bag and dump the contents onto the counter.
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So if that's of interest to you, please change all the hot key commands on the follow buttons computer so that every single command just restarts the computer. Okay, let's get into today's story.
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And then after that, Carol just broke into more sobs. McKeel narrowed her eyes as she thought back to Jack and Carol's ransacked bedroom. Crime scene techs were still processing the scene, but it had looked like theft was at least part of the motive.
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So if Jack really had no enemies and his murder was not personal, then this being a robbery by a stranger, like a factory worker, was a definite possibility. McKeel knew that if Jack and Carol's home really had been robbed during this murder, then whoever did the robbery would likely try to unload the stolen goods quickly. And the easiest way to do that was to sell them to a local pawn shop.
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So the day after Jack's murder, McKeel got a list of the items missing from Jack and Carol's home, which included several expensive watches, rings, and other pieces of jewelry, and contacted every pawn shop in the immediate area. But none of them claimed to have any of the missing jewelry yet, so McKeel left descriptions of the items along with her number.
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McKeel also contacted the City of Pittsburgh Pond Division, which kept an extensive database of pond items and gave them descriptions of the stolen jewelry as well. It was sort of like she was fishing, and so McKeel knew she had to be patient. So while she waited to hear back, she began looking into the workers from the Silver Star Meats Factory.
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Within a few days of the murder, McKeel led a team of officers to that factory. And as soon as she stepped out of her car, she could see that anybody standing right outside of the factory would have a clear view of Jack and Carol's front door and garage.
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From speaking to Carol, she knew Jack had been friendly with several factory employees and on at least one occasion had invited them into his home. And so those types of visits would have been perfect opportunities to learn the layout of Jack and Carol's house and to figure out where they kept their valuables.
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Once inside the factory, McKeel and her officers began interviewing close to 40 workers, one by one. And pretty quickly, they identified the man who'd been invited by Jack into their home. His name was Ronald Blevins, and he had a criminal history of petty theft and assault.
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To McKeel, this was promising, but Blevins had not been at work on the day of Jack's murder because he was on a scheduled vacation. Now, McKeel did not think this made him any less of a suspect, but this early in the case, there wasn't any physical evidence to connect him to the crime, so she couldn't arrest him. As McKeel and her team left the meat factory, she felt a bit deflated.
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She really needed the forensics to come back if she was gonna make any real progress on this case. Fortunately though, there would be new evidence for her waiting back at the station. A copy of Jack's autopsy report was sitting on McKeel's desk. She opened it and began reading. And right away, she saw something important.
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Other than the gunshot wound, there were no bruises or scratches found anywhere on Jack's body. There was no sign of a struggle at all. And so McKeel knew this could mean that the killer broke into the house and then surprised Jack and shot him from behind, or it could mean Jack knew his killer and had let this person inside of his house.
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McKeel kept on reading the report, and as she got towards the end of it, her eyes went wide. The coroner had made a major discovery. A bullet had been extracted from Jack's skull, and they determined it came from a .380 caliber handgun. This was extremely helpful. McKeel still did not have the actual murder weapon, but now she knew what kind of gun she was looking for.
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And so she wanted to find out if somebody close to Jack, someone let's say he would have welcomed into his home, owned a gun like that. Over the next few days, Detective McKeel interviewed Jack's friends and family, and most of them echoed Carol's comments that Jack got along with everybody, and no one McKeel met with claimed to own a .380 caliber handgun.
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And so McKeel felt like she was quickly running into yet another dead end. That was until a few people mentioned a fight Jack had had with Carol's nephew at a Labor Day party. And also folks mentioned that one of Jack's nephews, so a different nephew, was looking to hash out a serious and urgent matter with his uncle in the days right before the murder.
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The people who mentioned those two nephews said that the nephews had been really close with Jack for most of their lives. But McKeel knew those relationships could have turned bad as soon as jewelry or money got involved. So she went to interview both men immediately.
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The first house she went to belonged to Carol's nephew, Michael LaPaya, the army veteran who Jack and Carol had accused of stealing at their Labor Day party. When she began questioning Michael, he didn't deny that he and his uncle had a falling out, but he also insisted Jack was wrong about him stealing. More importantly though, Michael denied having anything to do with Jack's death.
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He said he'd been busy on the day of the murder, at a doctor's appointment to treat his PTSD, and then he had also gone shopping with his girlfriend. and he showed McKill receipts to prove it. And also, Michael did admit that he had lots of guns and he knew how to use them after his time in the military. However, the one gun he didn't own was a .380 caliber handgun.
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After the interview, McKill contacted the Veterans Affairs Medical Center and confirmed that Michael attended his appointment on the day of the murder. She was also able to verify that charges had been made on his credit card in a different city around the time of Jack's death. All in all, Michael's alibi seemed solid.
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So, Detective McKeel headed back to Jack and Carol's neighborhood to meet with the second nephew that Jack's friends and family had mentioned. This was Jack's nephew, Bradley, the one who lived on the same street and had been apparently wanting to speak with Jack in person about something serious and urgent.
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Now, from what other people had already told her, McKeel knew Bradley was mad at Jack for selling his mother's house because Bradley thought the property should stay in the family. She also knew Bradley and Carol didn't really get along. To McKeel, this sounded like a pretty deep-rooted dispute, and she expected Bradley to be cagey when they spoke about it.
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However, once they sat down at Bradley's kitchen table, what Bradley actually said blew McKeel away. Right off the bat, Bradley said that at 10.30am on July 21st, which was the day of the murder, he'd waited until Carol had left for work and then walked over to Jack's house to confront him.
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Bradley said once Jack let him inside, he'd immediately ask Jack to halt the sale of his grandmother's house. Bradley was struggling financially and wanted to move into his grandmother's house with his girlfriend to save money. Bradley said Jack seemed open to the idea, but he refused to make a decision right then because he wanted to speak to Carol first.
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One afternoon in mid-July 2014, 59-year-old Jack Parks and his fiancee, Carol LaPaya, walked through their neighborhood of Kennedy Township, Pennsylvania. Jack sported a black fedora, wire-framed glasses, and a lopsided grin beneath a graying mustache. Carol hung on his arm, smiling at how her engagement ring sparkled in the sunlight.
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And at that point, Bradley knew he was not going to get the house, because he knew Carol would not like the idea and she would convince Jack to keep trying to sell the house. So Bradley told McKeel he'd just given up and left Jack's house sometime around 11.15am, a little more than three hours before Carol would arrive home and find Jack dead.
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As Bradley finished up the story, McKeel was stunned silent. Bradley had just openly confessed to being inside of Jack's home, alone with him, on the day Jack died. And also, Bradley admitted that he had been there arguing over a property worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. But amazingly, Bradley still wasn't done with his story.
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Just as McKeel was about to leave, he casually revealed one more fact. He told her that he did in fact own a .380 caliber handgun. McKeel confiscated Bradley's gun, then raced back to the station to have it analyzed by the ballistics lab to see if it was the murder weapon. It would take a while for the results to come in, but McKeel barely had to wait before she got another huge break in the case.
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That day, a member of McKeel's team told her he'd finally received a call back from a pawn shop owner in a nearby town. According to that owner, a young couple had come into their shop on July 21st, the day of Jack's murder. And this couple had wanted to sell a bunch of jewelry, including gold chains and rings.
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And the owner noticed that several of these pieces had been smashed and mangled, which made the owner suspect that these could be stolen. And so as a result, he had not purchased these pieces of jewelry, but he'd convinced the couple to let him take a few photos of the jewelry. And then after the couple left, he contacted the police in the area.
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And it had taken three days for those police to connect the incident to Jack's case and then get in touch with McKeel's team. But as soon as McKeel got this news, she went straight to the pawn shop to review the photos of the potentially stolen items. And when she saw these photos, there was no doubt that was Jack's jewelry.
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Now, this pawn shop did not have a security camera, so there was no footage of the couple who tried to sell Jack's stuff. But McKeel showed the pawn shop owner some photos of local criminals, along with dozens of people of interest in Jack's murder case, which included Jack's nephew, Bradley.
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And as these pictures were being shown, the owner suddenly stopped McKeel and pointed out one person in particular and said, yep, that's the man I saw. And to McKeel's surprise, it was not Bradley. The man the pawn shop owner picked out was named Brian Gibbons.
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He had a record of theft and the police knew of him, but they hadn't remotely considered him as a suspect in Jack's murder because Brian had no known connections to Jack. But now, armed with this new information, McKeel left the pawn shop and headed to Brian's house. And as soon as Brian saw her, McKeel could tell she'd taken him by surprise.
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Brian denied having any knowledge of the murder, but when McKeel looked in his bedroom, it was absolutely littered with purses and jewelry. None of the items belonged to Jack or Carol, but a lot of the stuff had been reported stolen. This meant McKeel could charge Brian and hold him in custody while she looked for a connection to Jack's case. And so that's what McKeel did.
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She arrested Brian for theft. However, she still wasn't totally sure if he'd actually played a role in Jack's murder. McKeel had basically convinced herself that Jack's nephew, Bradley, was the killer. But now, Brian had come out of left field and he seemed like an equally strong suspect.
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As they walked, they passed by several neighbors who were outside doing yard work or talking. Jack and Carol waved to each person as they passed, and everyone waved back. Their neighborhood was a close-knit, working-class community 10 miles outside of Pittsburgh, and everybody seemed to know each other. In fact, Jack even had family on this street.
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And so McKeel wondered if maybe these two men had worked together, with Bradley actually committing the crime and then passing off the jewelry to Brian to sell. But McKeel had no evidence that these two men even knew each other. And until the ballistics results came back, she didn't even know if Bradley's gun was the murder weapon.
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It was like suddenly McKeel had gone from having a case full of dead ends to having a case with too many good suspects. It would take another week before the final piece of evidence fell into place. On August 4th, two weeks after Jack's death, McKeel got a call about a second pawn shop where a young man had stopped in the day after the murder trying to sell a bunch of damaged jewelry.
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Unlike at the first pawn shop, the employee at this one had not realized the jewelry was stolen, so he had bought it. Police had already examined the jewelry and confirmed it belonged to Jack. But the most important thing about this pawn shop was that it did have a security camera. And when McKeel watched that footage, she knew who killed Jack.
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Based on that surveillance footage, evidence collected at the crime scene, and interviews conducted throughout the investigation, the following is a reconstruction of what police believe happened to Jack Parks on the morning of July 21, 2014. That morning, the killer woke up in agony. They lay in bed for several minutes, drenched in sweat. Their cramps were getting worse.
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And beneath the pain, a horrible, clawing hunger was growing, demanding to be fed. From the next room, their partner shouted that they were heading off to work. At this, the killer scrambled up, yelling for their partner to wait. The killer dragged themselves out of bed and stumbled from the room. With a wild look on their face, they told their partner to call in sick today.
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They were going for a ride. A short while later, at about noon, the couple pulled up to the curb one block from the Silver Star Meats factory. The killer eyed the house directly across from the factory. The garage was open and Jack's car was inside. He was home. killer reached inside the glove box and took out a .380 caliber handgun.
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They told their partner to drive away if they weren't back in 30 minutes. Then they pocketed the gun, pulled the hood of their sweatshirt over their head, and got out of the car. The killer's heart pounded as they hurried down the sidewalk, avoiding eye contact with the meat factory employees just standing about in their blood-stained aprons.
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The killer reached Jack's house, headed up the walkway, went through the front gate, and right to the door. They knocked and then waited. When no one answered, they urgently knocked again. The door opened. Jack looked out and quickly waved the killer inside. Jack turned away from the door and asked the killer if he could get them something to drink. But the killer didn't answer.
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Instead, they followed Jack through the doorway and into the front room. And there, they stopped, drew the gun from their pocket, raised the barrel just inches from Jack's right ear, and fired. The bullet struck Jack in the back of the head. He fell dead before he even touched the ground.
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One of his nephews, Bradley Johnson, lived nearby. As Jack and Carol passed by Bradley's house, Jack slowed down, trying to see if Bradley was home. His nephew had mentioned wanting to talk to him in person about something serious and urgent, but Jack could see that the house was empty, so that conversation would have to wait. Which was fine, because today, Jack and Carol were on a mission.
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And immediately, the killer bolted upstairs to the master bedroom, where they tore through the dresser, ripping out drawers and dumping the contents all over the floor. It didn't take long to find what they were looking for. They quickly dug through the room and found Carol's jewelry box and Jack's rings, chains, and watches.
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The killer stuck the items into the pockets of their sweatshirt, feeling a thrill of victory. Soon, that gnawing hunger would be satisfied. The pain would end. Then the phone in the house began to ring, and the killer just froze. The killer listened as the call went to voicemail.
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Carol's voice echoed from the machine, asking why Jack wasn't picking up his cell phone, telling him that somebody was interested in buying his mother's house, and they needed to get there by 4 p.m. to open it up. Then Carol said she loved him and hung up. As soon as the voicemail ended, the killer rushed back downstairs to the front door.
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They grabbed the key off an end table to lock the deadbolt, but then something caught their eye. And once again, they froze. The killer saw Jack's feet jutting out from behind the coffee table. Beyond that, the killer saw the whole living room.
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It was a place with a lot of happy memories, where they, the killer, had spent countless slumber parties eating popcorn and watching movies with their cousins. A lump began to form in the killer's throat as they looked at a particular photo on the wall. Their 10-year-old self was smiling right back at them. The killer looked down at the floor, said goodbye to their Uncle Jack, and left.
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Jack's nephew, Bradley Johnson, had been high on Detective McKeel's suspect list. But when the results of the ballistics test on Bradley's .380 caliber handgun came back, it did not match the murder weapon. Also, at that second pawn shop where they had surveillance footage, it was not Bradley who McKeel saw. Because Bradley didn't kill his uncle.
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Carroll's nephew, the disgraced Army veteran Michael LaPaya, did. It would turn out Michael had been really struggling since his dishonorable discharge from the army, even worse than some of his family knew. He'd started using heroin and begun stealing to support the habit. And as his addiction worsened, Michael became increasingly desperate for cash.
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And in July 2014, he saw a quick way to get it, by killing Uncle Jack and stealing his jewelry. Jewelry Michael pawned the next day for just a little over $1,000. Once Detective McKeel saw Michael on that pawn shop surveillance footage, she was sure she'd found Jack's killer.
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And soon after that, she dug into Michael's phone records and discovered that his phone had pinged off a cell phone tower near Jack's house around the time of the murder, not long before Michael had gone shopping with his girlfriend and to his medical appointment just to give himself an alibi. Eventually, Michael would confess to what he'd done.
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Michael was convicted of first-degree murder and received a life sentence without the possibility of parole. His girlfriend and alleged getaway driver was never charged. As for Brian Gibbons, the jewelry thief who Detective McKeel thought could be connected to this case, he was ultimately cleared of any involvement. The pawn shop owner who identified him had simply made a mistake.
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Inside of Carol's purse was a large stack of wedding invitations, and they were on their way to drop these invitations in the mail, which was huge for them, because their wedding had been an unusually long time coming. So Jack and Carol had met at a bar 25 years ago. They'd fallen for each other quickly, but Jack had dragged his feet on proposing.
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And then when he had felt ready, Carol was swamped at work. Then Jack was busy. The timing was just always bad. And the longer they put marriage off, the less important it seemed. And anyways, they were in love and totally committed to each other. They didn't need a marriage license to prove that. But last February, Jack's mother had passed away.
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Her death had made him realize that he wasn't getting any younger, and he really wanted to marry the woman he'd loved for decades. So a few months ago, he'd finally proposed. And ever since, their days had been consumed with wedding preparations. They had the venue, the dress, and the rings, and now it was finally time to send out the invitations.
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There was a collection of gold chains, rings, and watches, and many of the pieces were twisted and mangled. Instantly, the hair on the pawnshop owner's neck stood up, because everything about this interaction, from the large quantity of damaged jewelry to the careless way the pieces had been thrown in a bag together, told him that these items were stolen.
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The couple came to the end of the block and stopped in front of the mailbox. Carol took the envelopes from her purse and then joked that this was their last chance to cross anyone off their invite list. Jack just laughed and said they were not cutting anyone. So Carol pushed the envelopes through the mailbox slot until only one invitation remained.
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Carol hesitated for a second, looking at the name on that last envelope. It was her nephew, a 22-year-old named Michael LaPaya. She and Jack had been angry at Michael this whole past year. Their broken relationship with him was a sore spot for both of them. So, Jack and Carol did not have children of their own, but they'd always doted on their nieces and nephews.
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When the kids were younger, Jack and Carol would have them over for slumber parties where they'd stay up late watching movies and eating popcorn. And as the kids got older, they'd all stayed close. Except for Michael. A few years back, Michael had started drifting away from Jack and Carol and the rest of the family and getting into lots of trouble.
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He joined the army but gotten dishonorably discharged for marijuana possession, and ever since, he'd suffered from PTSD and began experimenting with harder drugs. But that was actually not what caused the rift. Jack and Carol had supported Michael, even through his struggles, until one day the previous September.
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During a Labor Day party that Jack and Carol had hosted, guests had seen Michael go into the couple's bedroom. And when the party was over, Carol had discovered that her expensive jewelry was missing. Jack and Carol had confronted Michael, who denied taking anything, but they hadn't believed him.
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They told him he was no longer welcome in their home, and things had been extremely tense between them ever since. But now, Jack and Carol were ready to make amends by inviting Michael to their wedding. So, standing on the sidewalk, Carol took a deep breath and then dropped Michael's invitation into the mailbox. And suddenly, both Jack and Carol felt a whole lot lighter.
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The invitations were out and good things were ahead. Jack and Carol turned away from the mailbox and began heading back home. As they reached their driveway, Jack waved to a few men standing directly across the street, outside of a small factory called Silver Star Meats. The workers were outside in their aprons smoking, and they waved back.
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Jack was about to go over and talk to them when he noticed Carol's irritated expression, and so he thought better of it. Jack liked the guys from the factory, but he knew they made Carol uncomfortable. She hated that they took their smoke breaks so close to their house, and she thought their blood-stained aprons were kind of unsettling.
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So Jack just turned away, and then he and Carol walked up their porch steps and into their house. A few days later, on Monday, July 21st, Carol sat at her desk at work, reviewing her to-do list for the wedding. The ceremony was just six weeks away, and there was still a lot to figure out. But then, at 10.45 a.m., her cell phone rang. And to her surprise, it was Jack's realtor.
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And this made the owner extremely nervous because he had cash in the register and didn't know what these thieves might be capable of. He needed to get them out of the store quickly without revealing that he was onto them. So he told the couple he didn't have enough cash to buy the jewelry right now, but he would send some pictures of the jewelry to his broker to see if maybe they were interested.
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Jack had hired this realtor to sell his mother's house after she had died, and now the realtor said some potential buyers wanted to see the house that afternoon. She wanted Jack and Carol to meet her there at 4 p.m. This was all good news because Carol and Jack had been eager to sell that house as quickly as possible.
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But before hanging up, Carol asked why the realtor called her instead of calling Jack. The realtor said they did call Jack first. He just didn't answer. This seemed odd to Carol. As soon as she hung up, she tried Jack's cell phone, and it rang several times before going to voicemail. She left him a message, then hung up and called the house.
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And as it rang, she expected to hear Jack's voice any second, but again, the call went to voicemail. Carol just sat there, trying to ignore the sick feeling of dread in her stomach. Jack knew what a worrier she could be, so he always answered her calls. But she told herself that maybe he was in the shower, or maybe outside mowing the grass without his phone on him.
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He would probably call her back any minute. But the clock kept ticking, and by noon, Jack still had not called. And so Carol tried him again, but he still didn't answer. Frustrated, she dropped her phone back in her purse and just focused on her computer, trying to ignore her mounting anxiety.
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But by 2.30 p.m., when still Jack had not called, so now it's been three and a half hours since that first missed call, Carol just couldn't take it anymore. So she left work and began heading straight home. Twenty minutes later, Carol pulled up outside of her and Jack's house. right away, she saw that the garage door was open and Jack's car was inside, which meant he had to be home.
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Carol felt relieved. She was sure Jack would explain why he had missed her calls, and better yet, they'd still be able to make their 4 p.m. appointment with their realtor. But as Carol got out of her car and started up the walkway, she saw something that made her stomach drop all over again.
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So Jack and Carol's front porch was enclosed by a gate, and both Jack and Carol always kept the gate closed because their dog was a runner, and they wanted to make sure he didn't get out. But now Carol saw the gate was wide open. Carol rushed through the gate to the front door and turned the knob.
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But even though the doorknob turned, meaning it was unlocked, the door didn't budge when she pushed on it. That's when Carol realized the deadbolt inside, which they never used, must be locked. And now her anxiety turned to actual fear. Between the deadbolt, the open gate, and Jack not answering his phone, she was certain something had to be wrong here.
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Carol's hands shook as she dug through her purse for the house key, then struggled to get it into the lock. Finally she did, the deadbolt turned, and the door swung open. Carol stepped inside with her heart pounding, but the house was silent and still. She took a few steps further in, and then her eyes suddenly fell on something under the coffee table inside of the living room.
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For a second, her brain couldn't even compute what she was looking at. But then, when it clicked, she let out a scream. Because underneath the coffee table was Jack. He was lying face down on the carpet with a pool of blood under his head. Carol rushed over to Jack and shook him, but he didn't move or make a sound. And so in a panic, she found her phone and dialed 911.
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The couple agreed and let him take the photos. And then after the photos were taken and the couple had left, the owner called the police and it soon became clear his gut instincts were right. However, he'd stumbled onto something much bigger than just theft because it would turn out this jewelry was linked to a murder case.
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When the dispatcher picked up, Carol shouted that there'd been some kind of horrible accident. Her fiance must have fallen and hit his head on the coffee table. And she begged the dispatcher to please send help now. Moments later, police and first responders arrived and they had to physically drag Carol away from Jack's side.
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Carol watched as they knelt beside her fiance and check for a pulse, but they didn't find one. Carol's world crumbled. She knew Jack was dead. A short while later, Detective Laurie McKeel of the Allegheny County Homicide Unit arrived on the scene. A perimeter was already established and the house was crawling with police. But before McKeel went in, she looked around outside.
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Neighbors were watching the activity from their front lawns, and McKeel noticed a specific group of people huddled together on the sidewalk, consoling a sobbing woman whose hands were covered in blood. McKeel guessed this must be the victim's partner, and the people around her were her family.
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But before speaking to her, the detective quickly made her way across the yard and went inside of the house. Inside, officers and forensic techs searched the front room for evidence. McKeel had already been briefed on this case, so she knew the victim's name was Jack Parks and his fiancée had found him dead after an apparent fall.
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McKeel went into the living room, where Jack's body lay face up, partially underneath the coffee table. There was a lot of blood, and at first glance, a fall didn't seem out of the question. However, when she crouched down to get a better look, she found a small hole behind Jack's right ear, toward the back of his skull. It was a gunshot wound. which meant this was no accidental fall.
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This was a murder. McKeel stood up and told the other investigators nearby to keep their eyes peeled for bullet casings or a gun. Then she continued scanning the house. The house was lived in, but relatively neat, with boxes of what looked like wedding favors stacked in the hall. But when McKeel stepped inside of the master bedroom, she saw this room had been totally ransacked.
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Dressers were overturned and drawers were pulled out. Several jewelry boxes lay empty and discarded on the carpet. Either this was a robbery or someone had staged the scene to make it look like one. As McKeel made her way back to the living room, she saw several photos of what looked like a seemingly loving couple about to get married.
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but McKeel's training told her not to take anything at face value. Every relationship had its problems, and a deadline like a wedding could bring tension to the surface. So before McKeel did anything else, she wanted to speak to Jack's fiance. If there were any skeletons in the couple's closet, she needed to know about them.
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Later that afternoon, Detective McKeel sat with Carol in an interview room at the police station. McKeel knew that so far, nobody had told Carol much of anything, including the fact that Jack's death was a murder, not an accidental fall. And from McKeel's point of view, this was a good thing. The romantic partner was always the primary suspect in a murder.
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And so McKeel wanted to study how Carol behaved in their interview before she told Carol anything about the investigation. So McKeel started slowly, asking basic questions about Carol's relationship with Jack, But as Carol calmed down and opened up, McKeel began to probe deeper. She asked if either Carol or Jack was getting cold feet about their wedding.
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And why did it take them so long to get engaged? Were there suspicions of infidelity? What about money problems? McKeel watched Carol for any hint of defensiveness or anger. But while Carol did deny having any problems with Jack, she didn't seem mad at being asked about it. She just seemed confused.
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So, McKeel decided to ask a question that she knew would increase the pressure by making it obvious that Carol was now a suspect in a murder. The detective looked into Carol's eyes and asked her if she owned a gun. And at this, Carol froze. After a second, she asked why she was being questioned about a gun when her fiance had fallen.
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McKeel stayed quiet and watched as Carol's expression changed from confusion to understanding. Carol just looked at McKeel and said, Are you saying Jack was shot? And then, Carol just began sobbing. Even though McKeel could not officially rule Carol out as a suspect yet, she did think Carol's reaction to this was very genuine.
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So, McKeel handed Carol a box of tissues and asked in a gentle voice if Jack had any enemies. Through tears, Carol said no. In fact, if anything, Jack was sometimes too friendly. Recently, Carol said she'd come home to find Jack hanging out in the living room with one of the workers from the factory across the street. Carol said she'd been mad at him for letting a stranger inside of their home.
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On August 30th, so a day after the discovery of Eric's body, Carney and his partner, Neil Treeby, knocked on the front door of a small house in a town not far from Plimpton. a man in his mid-50s answered. He told the investigators that he was Audrey's son and that yes, he was a retired police detective sergeant. Carney and Treeby felt lucky their potential main witness's son was a former cop.
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He could help them explain what was happening in the investigation to his mother and also maybe make her feel safer and more comfortable when she was speaking to them. Audrey's son led them into the front room of the house, where Audrey was sitting on the couch. Somehow, she looked even smaller and more frail than the day before, when Carney had met her.
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But Audrey smiled and politely asked if the officers wanted a cup of tea or coffee. They thanked her, but they said they were fine for now, and then Audrey's son sat down next to his mother, and the investigators sat in chairs across from them. Carney said how sorry he was for her loss. He knew this must all be frightening and confusing.
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Audrey nodded, but she said she would not let fear or confusion get in the way of helping the police. And then, without any prompting, she said she had seen the men who killed her husband in the bedroom. Carney leaned in and asked if he'd heard her right. There was more than one killer? Audrey nodded and said there were two young men.
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Treeby quickly asked if she knew these men, or if she could at least give a clear description of them. Audrey turned and looked at her son, and he told her she should tell them everything she knew. Audrey turned back to the investigators.
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She told them she had been sleeping in the guest bedroom, and she said she usually did that because Eric liked to keep the window open and the light on at night, which made it difficult for her to fall asleep. And so the other night or early in the morning, she had woken up when she heard noise coming from the main bedroom where Eric was sleeping.
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It sounded like someone was groaning and something banging against the wall. Audrey said she figured it was just Eric trying to fumble for his canes to try to stand up and get out of bed, and so she got up and walked down the hall. And at this point, Audrey sort of trailed off. She seemed like she couldn't go on with her story.
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The investigators didn't want to push her, but her son gently encouraged her to keep going. And at some point, Audrey did begin talking again. She said when she got to the bedroom, her husband was lying on the floor, bleeding, and there were these two young men standing over him. One was holding a knife, and the other was holding a plastic bag.
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She screamed, and when she did, they ran for the window, climbed out, and disappeared. However, the one that had been holding the bag dropped the bag on the way out. But Audrey said before they escaped, she did get a good look at them. She said she didn't know their names, but she definitely recognized them from the village, and they were really distinct looking.
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She said one was kind of short, maybe 5'8", and the other was at least 6'1". And he wore bright white pants and a deerstalker hat, just like the one Sherlock Holmes wore. Carney glanced over at his partner. He didn't say anything, but a killer wearing bright pants and also wearing a Sherlock Holmes-style hat seemed really bizarre, sort of like he was on some fictional TV crime drama.
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Carney asked Audrey if she wouldn't mind giving a detailed description of these two men to a police sketch artist. He also said that he didn't want to pressure her, but if she was willing to go on TV and speak directly to the public about what these men looked like, it could be helpful.
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Audrey turned and spoke to her son for a few moments, and then after that, she turned back to the investigators and nodded her head. She agreed to do anything that would help get her justice for her husband and bring some closure for his kids.
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On September 4th, so five days after Eric's murder, Inspectors Carney and Treeby stood next to Audrey in a large conference room filled with newspaper and television reporters.
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Police had already started to circulate the drawings of the suspects around town, but Plympton was just one of several small villages that surrounded the much larger city of Plymouth, so the investigators believed getting the description out on television was key to reaching more people across the entire area.
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The investigators also believed if people just saw Audrey telling her tragic story, they might be more willing to help. Carney conveyed the basics of the case to the press, and then he introduced Audrey. She stood there for a second in silence, just staring out at the cameras pointed directly at her.
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She tried to keep her composure, and she spent a minute looking at some notes she had written down. Finally, in a soft voice, she thanked the community for all the love and support they had shown her and her family in the wake of this tragedy and then she gave a detailed description of the two men she believed killed her husband.
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Afterward, Audrey stopped and looked down at the piece of paper shaking in her hands. She swallowed and closed her eyes, trying to fight back tears. After a few seconds, she opened her eyes, looked right into one of the cameras, and said very dramatically that there was no need for these men to have done this to Eric. Even if he had tried to fight them off, he was no threat to these two young men.
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They could have just pushed him aside and left with whatever they wanted. They didn't have to kill him. This press conference sparked an even bigger outpouring of sympathy for Audrey and the family, but it also led to a level of tension and fear that was totally foreign inside of Plimpton.
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People were now too scared to go out at night, and shopkeepers considered closing their doors early just in case these two murderous young men were out stalking their next victim. However, within just a few days, Audrey's press conference would prove to have been the right decision.
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On an afternoon in early September, Carney and Treeby were working together in Carney's office when a uniformed police officer opened the door. He told them that two men had come to the station saying they needed to speak to the investigators who were handling the Eric Hengston murder case because they said they were the men that Audrey had identified as being the killers.
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Inspectors Carney and Treeby rushed through the station and they found these two young men standing with several officers. and they did look exactly like the two young men Audrey had described. The inspectors felt a huge rush because it was like the solution to their case had just fallen right into their laps.
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Carney and Treeby brought the two young men into an interview room, and Carney asked them flat out if they had come to turn themselves in for Eric's murder. But both young men immediately just shook their heads and said no. The taller of the two men said they'd seen Audrey's press conference, and they immediately knew she was describing them. but they had nothing to do with her husband's murder.
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Treeby said if they knew immediately that they were the men Audrey was talking about, why had they waited several days to come in? The young men looked at each other for a second, and then the tall one kept talking for both of them. He said they were scared.
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Not only did they match Audrey's description, but they also thought people in the village would decide they were guilty right away no matter what they said because they happened to live in a bail hostel in town. A bail hostel was a place where people who had been charged for crimes but had been released on bail could live if they didn't have a permanent residence of their own.
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Essentially, a bail hostel allowed law enforcement to know where they could find these people if they needed to until their case went to trial. Carney and Treeby exchanged a look. They knew these young men were right. A lot of people in the village would assume they were dangerous criminals and decide they were guilty of murder regardless of the truth.
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But this didn't change the fact that Audrey had clearly described both of them, so Carney wanted to know how they could explain that if they were not the men Audrey had seen in Eric's room. The shorter of the two men finally spoke up. He said he didn't mean any disrespect, but the old woman might just be confused. They had seen her that day, but not in her house.
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Instead, they had seen her when they were walking into a nearby pub. The taller man then quickly joined in and said after going to that pub, they went back to the bail hostel and stayed in all night. And they said the inspectors could speak to the people in charge of the hostel because the hostel had strict curfews and kept track of when people left and came back.
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Carney and Treeby got the details of this bail hostel, then excused themselves and left the interview room. And immediately, Carney called the hostel, and the person who answered was able to confirm that both of those men were at the hostel at the time of Eric's murder. And so any rush of adrenaline the inspectors had felt when these two men came to the station had now quickly disappeared.
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Now, there was a chance that these young men could have snuck out of the hostel and made their way to Eric and Audrey's without anybody noticing, but that was not the most likely scenario. Especially considering that these two men had literally sought out the police.
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And if Audrey really had seen them at the pub that day, there was a chance that in her shock and confusion, she had just remembered these two guys when she was trying to picture the men who were inside of her house. Carney and Treeby returned to the interview room.
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They let the two young men go, but made it clear they would follow up with the bail hostel, so the men should make sure not to leave the village anytime soon. But once the young men were gone, Carney and Treeby admitted that if Audrey had confused these two guys with the actual killers, the investigation basically had nothing to go on.
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With two potential suspects off their list for the time being, Carney and Treeby decided to head back to Eric and Audrey's neighborhood.
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At the mobile command center the police had set up near the house, the inspector spoke with shop owners, old family friends, and delivery drivers and paper boys who might have seen something while they were on their routes early in the morning when Eric was killed. But nobody seemed to have seen or heard anything unusual.
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And so with very little to go on, Carney and Treeby couldn't help but keep coming back to the idea that their victim ran a butcher shop and he had been stabbed with what forensics officers believed was a very sharp blade, something that would be in a butcher shop. So maybe two men from the shop had broken into the house and killed Eric with a butcher knife.
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They most likely would have had easy access to the home working so close. But when they spoke to Eric's son James and the few other people who worked at the shop, all of them appeared to have very strong alibis, so the inspectors could not directly tie any of them to the break-in or to Eric's murder.
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On September 11th, two weeks after the murder, Kearney and Treeby started to feel like the case was already slipping away from them. Their interactions in the community had not yielded any new evidence, forensics officers had returned to the house but still had not found any usable prints, and test results from the blood samples taken from Eric's body and the bedroom floor only matched Eric.
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And to make things even more bleak for the investigation, several people connected to the bail hostel had now officially corroborated the young men's alibi. So it seemed like the killer in the bright white pants with the Sherlock Holmes hat was really just a product of Audrey's fear and confusion.
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That day, while Carney and Treeby continued to look for anything they might have missed in their case files, they suddenly got a call from a police officer in a nearby town. They put the call on speakerphone and they could both tell right away that this officer sounded upset. He said he had been dispatched to Audrey's son's house because Audrey had attempted suicide by overdosing on pills.
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The officer said that paramedics had gotten Audrey to the hospital fast enough to save her life. But he also said he had found a suicide note on site and the note read, Please catch the terrible people who ruined my life. I cannot live without Eric. As soon as Carney and Treeby hung up, a sense of guilt hit both of them.
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They knew their investigation had not really been going on that long, but the fact that they still had not found the killers had clearly taken a toll on Audrey. Carney and Treeby left the station and headed right to the hospital to check on Audrey in person. When they arrived, they learned that Audrey was okay, however, for now, she just needed to rest and recover on her own.
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So the inspectors, instead of speaking to Audrey, spoke briefly with a social worker who had met with Audrey when she was first brought into the hospital. And after this conversation, the inspectors decided they needed to start from scratch. There had to be something inside of Audrey and Eric's house that they and their team had simply missed.
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And they had to make sure they found it before anything like this suicide attempt happened again. Not long after this hospital visit, Carney and Treeby led their investigative team back to Audrey and Eric's house. And this time, they wanted to recreate the robbery and murder as best as they could, hoping this might lead to hidden fingerprints or some new idea about what could have happened.
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They started by having two police officers place the ladder outside against the house, scale it, and then try to climb into the bedroom window.
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And what they discovered is because of the way the window was designed and where it was situated in the house, it meant that somebody would have to awkwardly stretch up from the ladder, grab onto a small piece of cement, and pull themselves up and over the windowsill and into the bedroom. This proved to be so difficult that even the youngest, most fit cop on the team couldn't do it.
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And so the only other option for the killers, assuming they were using this ladder, would have been to use the ladder to climb onto the roof of the house and then scale down from the roof and sort of swing themselves into the bedroom. And this scenario, much like the first one, required a lot of strength and to some degree a level of fearlessness because the risk of falling was quite high.
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And even with all that, it still would have been really hard to pull off. So police wondered if maybe the killers had somehow practiced this maneuver beforehand. After the investigative team tried several more times to run through various ladder scenarios, they headed back inside the house to do another complete search.
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Now, Carney and Treeby had no idea if during this search they would find anything new. The house had already been searched on three separate occasions. But they still encouraged their team to literally look everywhere in this house, even in places where it didn't even seem possible that a clue could turn up.
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And after another lengthy search, when Carney and Treeby had both become convinced that they were going to come up short again, they heard an officer shouting their names from the kitchen. Carney and Treeby ran through the house. In the kitchen, they saw an officer standing by an open drawer with his back to them.
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Carney asked what was going on, and the officer said he'd found something that was stuck in the small space between the drawer and the counter the drawer was in. Carney and Treeby just stood there with bated breath as this officer jimmied the drawer to try to free what was stuck there.
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And then finally, the officer got it free, and he turned around, and in a gloved hand, he showed them what was stuck. It was a knife with a red handle and a sharp 7-inch blade. It was the type of knife that would most likely be used by a chef or a butcher.
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That knife was immediately sent to the crime lab for testing, and when the results from those tests came back, it only confirmed what Carney and Treeby already knew. This knife had cracked Eric's murder case.
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Based on test results from the crime lab, forensic evidence, and interviews conducted during the investigation, the following is a reconstruction of what police believe happened to Eric Hinkston. In the early morning hours of August 29, 2003, the killer dragged a tall metal ladder from Eric and Audrey's back garden to the side of the house.
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It was dark, except for a couple of house lights on the street, and the neighborhood was completely quiet. The killer placed the ladder against the house beneath the bedroom window, and as they placed it there, the metal of the ladder clanged against the concrete of the house, and the killer froze.
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They looked around nervously, but there were no signs that the noise they had just made had attracted any attention. So after that, the killer, instead of walking up the ladder, walked around to the front door of the house and went inside. And they headed up the stairs, holding a sharp 7-inch blade in one hand and a plastic bin liner in the other.
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In the early evening of August 28, 2003, 83-year-old Eric Hingston was sitting up in bed trying to catch his breath in the small village of Plimpton in the southwest of England. Eric's 81-year-old wife, Audrey, fluffed up a pillow behind him to make sure he was as comfortable as possible. She kissed her husband on the cheek, walked across the small upstairs bedroom, and opened up the window.
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Each step they took on the staircase made the house creak, so the killer moved slowly, trying to make as little noise as possible. The killer reached the top of the stairs, walked down a short hallway, and entered the bedroom where Eric was sleeping. The light was on and the killer saw Eric sitting up in his bed. However, he was fast asleep.
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The killer placed the plastic bag down on the floor, then took a breath, gripped the knife tight, and walked across the room. They stood over the side of the bed staring down at Eric. Then they raised the knife up and slammed it down into Eric's collarbone. Eric woke up wheezing and trying to scream. Blood began running down his shirt and he used all of his strength to pull himself up out of bed.
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But as soon as he was up, he just collapsed and fell to the floor. The killer just stood there watching Eric as his breathing got slower and more strained until Eric went still. He had died. The killer then walked to the dresser, opened up the drawers and began tossing articles of clothing all over the floor.
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When they had almost emptied the dresser, they stopped, went over and grabbed their bin liner, and then walked over to a jewelry box that was sitting on the bedroom vanity, and they dumped most of the jewelry that was inside of it into the liner. The killer carried the now full bag across the room and placed it on the windowsill.
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Then they looked outside through the open window to make sure the ladder was still in place, and it was. Satisfied, the killer left the bedroom, went downstairs, but instead of going outside, they went into the kitchen, and they calmly hid the murder weapon in the space between a kitchen drawer and the counter.
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After that, the killer walked to the front room, sat down on the couch, and waited almost two hours before they called the police to report a robbery and murder that had taken place inside of their own home. 81-year-old Audrey Hingston had murdered her husband. It turned out that Audrey had grown tired of having to take care of Eric full-time.
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She missed her old life of going out, visiting the pub, and spending time with her friends. Over the years, Eric's health issues had started to make her feel completely trapped, so she came up with a plan to kill him and make it look like a robbery. Audrey went as far as to pick the two young men she would pin the murder on.
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The man was still in shock from the call he'd gotten. An 83-year-old man had been brutally murdered inside of this house. This type of violence was just not something that ever happened in villages like this. The inspector walked up to the door and knocked. And as soon as the door opened, things only got stranger from there.
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She often saw these two young men walking around the neighborhood and visiting the pub, then she knew they lived in the bail hostel, so she thought they would look guilty. But even after these suspects that Audrey identified came to police and provided strong alibis, Carney and Treeby didn't turn their attention to Audrey and think she was guilty.
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Instead, they truly believed that Audrey had just been confused and that she really had seen two young men robbing her house and killing her husband, just not these two young men. However, following Audrey's suicide attempt, the inspectors met with a social worker who'd been speaking to Audrey.
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And the social worker said it was so strange, but despite what Audrey's notes said about the reason she had attempted suicide was because of her grief over her husband's death, that this social worker's experience with Audrey had been that Audrey had almost no grief or sadness about her husband being dead.
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And so after hearing this, the inspectors did not immediately believe this 81-year-old woman was a murderer, but they thought she might not be telling them the whole truth about what had happened.
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And so it was at that point that they tried to recreate the break-in using the ladder outside to get a better idea of what Audrey might have witnessed, but the inspectors quickly discovered that it would have been incredibly difficult, if not downright impossible, to pull off the break-in using the ladder.
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A cool summer breeze blew in, and Eric instantly seemed to relax. For the past three years, Eric had been dealing with a series of health issues. He could only walk short distances with the help of two canes, he had heart problems, and he had a catheter. But despite these health issues, his wife, Audrey, had worked hard to give Eric as active a life as possible.
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So when police found the knife hidden in the kitchen, they felt confident that there had not even been a robbery at all, that nobody had used the ladder to break in, and that instead, very likely, someone close to Eric had simply entered his house through the front door and killed him.
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Now, at this point, the inspectors suspected that either Eric's son, James, or maybe one of the other workers at the butcher shop were the killer. However, the only DNA found on that knife discovered in the kitchen was Audrey's. The inspectors had followed up with James, and when he heard about this knife that was found in the kitchen, he was in complete shock.
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Because he said just a week before the murder, Audrey had come into the butcher shop and asked him to sharpen that specific knife. After Carney and Treeby confronted Audrey with all of this evidence, her son, who was the former policeman, was sure his mother had killed Eric, and he convinced her to confess.
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At the time, Audrey became one of the oldest women in British history to be jailed for murder. But because of the circumstances and her age, she actually only served seven months in prison. After her release, she was banned from returning to Plimpton or contacting Eric's family for several years. Audrey died in 2016.
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And for years, together, they had managed to do just that. But recently, Eric had also begun to suffer from severe asthma, and so he struggled to breathe a lot of the time. He had tried different medicines and treatments, but sitting upright in his bed with the window open seemed to be the only thing that brought him any relief.
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Audrey turned from the window and looked back at her husband on the bed, and she smiled. She could see his breathing had started to slow down, and he had a calm look on his face now. Eric gave a little smile back to his wife, but it was obviously forced. He hated that he was stuck in bed so much of the time lately. It was just not how he'd imagined his life playing out.
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And a big reason for that was because Eric had spent the early part of his life in peak physical condition, facing dangers that most people couldn't even imagine. When he was a young man, he joined the Royal Air Force, and he had become a highly decorated World War II pilot who flew covert missions into occupied France.
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After leaving the military, he no longer risked his life on a regular basis, but he still pushed himself to work hard all the time and to accomplish any goals he set for himself. Eric got married to his first wife, they started a family, and he opened and ran a very successful neighborhood butcher shop that was located below the house where he still lived.
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And so for decades, Eric had been a highly respected war hero, business owner, and beloved member of the community. But now, he just felt like a burden. Eric's second wife, Audrey, sat down in a chair near the bed and took his hand. The two of them had gotten married later in life, when they were in their 60s, after both of their first spouses had passed away.
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Audrey knew Eric hated the situation he was in now, but she reminded him that they had shared almost 20 wonderful years together and she wouldn't trade that for anything. Audrey asked Eric if he needed any more help, but he just said he just wanted to know how the butcher shop was doing. Audrey shook her head and sighed.
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One of Eric's sons now ran the family business, and he ran it well, but Eric just could never quite let the shop go. Audrey told him she was sure everything was just fine, but she told him she would head down to look into the shop just to check in on things. And so she patted Eric's hand, stood up, walked out of the bedroom and down a flight of old wooden stairs and stepped outside of the house.
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Because the victim's wife, who came to the door, had seen the men who killed her husband. And the image of one of them was burned into her mind. It was a young man in bright white pants and a hat that looked just like the one the famous fictional English detective Sherlock Holmes wore.
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The street where Audrey and Eric lived in the suburban village of Plimpton had barely changed in decades. The butcher shop was connected to the house, but it had its own entrance, and right next door was a popular old neighborhood pub. Stone houses lined the little neighborhood, and Audrey could see the spires of St. Mary's Church, which dated back to the 1300s, rising up in the distance.
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Audrey walked just a few feet to the entrance of the butcher shop. A bell rang above the door as she stepped inside, and right away she saw Eric's son, James, standing behind the counter and slicing into a piece of meat for a customer. James waved at Audrey, and she walked over, and the two spoke for a few minutes.
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Eric's children and Audrey's own children had been adults when the couple first got together, so Audrey hadn't played any part in raising Eric's kids. But she'd always gotten along well with all of them, and she was thankful that James had dedicated himself to keeping the family shop up and running.
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A few more customers walked in, and so Audrey said she didn't want to get in the way of business, so she said goodbye to James and walked back outside. She smiled at a pair of young men who were heading into the pub next door, and she could see the street starting to come to life as people got off from work and headed out for the evening. Audrey took a breath.
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She missed the days when she and Eric would duck into the pub for a pint and end up talking to their friends for hours, and she knew Eric missed that too. She walked back to the house and put on a smile. She didn't want Eric to see that she was feeling a bit sad about how their lives had changed since he'd gotten sick. Audrey walked upstairs to the bedroom and checked on her husband.
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He was still sitting up in bed, feeling the breeze on his face. He told her he felt like his breathing was much better, but he was feeling a bit tired, so he might just go to sleep. He asked Audrey to keep the light on, which she almost always did anyways, in case he needed to get up in the middle of the night. Then Eric gave his wife a kiss and closed his eyes.
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Audrey told him to sleep well, then she walked to the bedroom door, but she stopped before she walked out. She could hear loud noises coming from the pub next door. She thought about closing the window to block the noise, but she knew Eric could sleep through loud sounds, and having the window open meant he got fresh air.
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So she left the window open, glanced back at her husband one more time, who was already falling asleep, and then she walked out of the room. At 3.45 a.m. on the following day, August 29th, so several hours after Eric had gone to sleep, Audrey was back in his bedroom. But this time she just stood there in the doorway, trembling.
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Soon, the inspector and his team would find themselves involved in a case where they had no idea what was real and what was simply the imagination of a scared 81-year-old woman.
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She looked at the open window and then down at the floor, and she felt confused and scared. she slowly walked across the room, picked up the phone on the bedside table, and took a deep breath. With her hands shaking, she dialed 999, the emergency number in the United Kingdom.
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Minutes after Audrey's call, police and paramedics sped down the small village street towards Audrey and Eric's house, their sirens waking up people all around the quiet neighborhood. Detective Inspector Tony Carney of the Devon and Cornwall Police parked on the street and followed several paramedics to Audrey and Eric's front door. Carney knocked on the door, and within seconds, Audrey answered.
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The sight of the small, frail-looking older woman in her bathrobe hit Carney hard. She looked terrified, and when Carney introduced himself to her, he could tell she was confused and struggling to put words together. Carney made sure the paramedics could get inside the house and head upstairs to the bedroom, but Carney stayed at the door with Audrey.
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Carney's first thought was that this poor woman should not be here while the police searched her house. She should be somewhere else where she felt safe and calm. Carney also knew he was dealing with a crime scene here and he didn't want Audrey to accidentally touch or move potential evidence.
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So he asked her if there were any family members she might be able to stay with while the police were inside of her home. Audrey looked up at him and slowly nodded. She said her son was a retired police inspector and he lived not too far away. Kearney signaled for another officer to come to the door, and he arranged for him to drive Audrey to her son's house.
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Once Kearney felt sure that Audrey would be looked after, he put on his gloves, stepped inside the home, and walked upstairs to the bedroom. And when he got up there, he felt like he'd stumbled into a TV crime drama or something. Because on the floor of the bedroom, he saw all the paramedics gathered around Eric Kingston, who had clearly been dead when they got there.
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And Eric had been brutally stabbed in his collarbone. On several British TV shows, murders took place in small English villages every week. But in reality, murder cases in places like Plimpton were virtually unheard of. And specifically, the murder of an older man in his 80s like Eric was just really not something that ever happened anywhere near here. Carney glanced around the bedroom.
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All of the dresser drawers had been pulled open and clothes covered most of the wooden floor. He looked over at the open window and on the windowsill, he saw a black plastic bin liner, the British term for trash bag. He walked over to the window, looked in the bag, and saw several pieces of expensive jewelry inside. And something outside the window also caught his eye.
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Carney leaned out, and in the glow of a single outdoor light, he saw a metal ladder perched against the house just below the bedroom window. Just then, Carney heard someone calling his name. He leaned back inside from the window, turned, and saw a small team of forensics officers entering the bedroom.
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Carney asked the paramedics to clear out, and he gave the forensics team a few minutes to search the room without getting in their way. And soon, it was pretty clear that all the investigators and first responders believed the same thing. This had to have been a robbery gone bad.
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Someone must have climbed up the ladder into the bedroom, stolen some jewelry, and then Eric must have woken up, tried to stop them, so they killed him. But if that was the case, Carney wondered why the thief had left the jewelry behind. Did they just panic, or did Audrey catch them in the act?
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The thief killed Eric, but maybe they just couldn't bring themselves to kill a woman who probably looked a lot like their grandmother. The forensics team continued their work in the bedroom, and Carney headed back downstairs and outside. Police officers had cordoned off the house with crime scene tape, and the neighbors had come out of their homes and had started to ask questions.
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Carney had worked cases in a number of other small villages, and he knew that even residents with the best intentions could end up slowing down an investigation. News about crimes in these small towns, especially a violent crime, spread fast and led to wild rumors and speculation and misinformation.
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And people would start calling the police, claiming they saw dangerous criminals on every street corner and in every pub. Carney walked back to his car and called into the station. He said he wanted a mobile command unit set up near the house, and he wanted officers on site whose sole purpose would be to answer questions from the community and provide as much transparency as possible.
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After that, Carney walked away from his car and informed the officers outside that they would have help soon. But before Carney could go back into the house, he saw another uniformed officer leading a middle-aged man towards him. The man looked almost as dazed as Audrey had. The man introduced himself as the victim's son, James, and he said he ran the family butcher shop connected to the house.
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A friend who lived nearby had called him to tell him what was going on, and James said he had spoken to the uniformed officer, so he already knew his dad was dead. Carney eyed James and then looked over at the shop. He wondered if it was too much of a coincidence that James worked at a butcher shop, presumably with knives, and his father was the murder victim who had been stabbed to death.
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James told Carney he still needed to call the rest of his family to let them know what had happened. Carney said he understood, however, before he left, he wanted to know if anyone who worked at the butcher shop, or anyone who might have worked there in the past, could possibly have had a grudge against his father. James shook his head and said no.
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He said police could talk to anyone who had ever worked for his dad, or anyone in the neighborhood for that matter, and they would all say they loved Eric, like family. Carney said how sorry he was again, and then told James he would follow up when he needed to, and then Carney walked back inside the house.
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Up in the bedroom, Carney found the forensics team combing over every inch of the floor and also bagging jewelry and clothing as potential evidence. One of the officers told Carney that they had pulled blood samples from Eric's body, but they hadn't found that much blood on the floors or the walls.
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They believed the stab wound had been deep enough to puncture Eric's lung and kill him, but it hadn't actually caused a lot of bleeding. The forensics officer said the puncture spot on Eric's body was deeper than it was wide, which most likely meant the blade was very, very sharp.
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The officer also said that they still had not found the murder weapon or any usable fingerprints in the room or outside of the window, but they would keep on looking. Carney hoped the team would eventually find usable prints, but he thought he might not even need them, because he believed there was a good chance Audrey had interrupted the robbery and gotten a good look at her husband's killer.
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Hey Prime members, you can binge eight new episodes of the Mr. Ballin Podcast one month early and all episodes ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today. On a summer night in 2013, newlyweds Olga and Joe Connell walked into their condominium in Wilmington, Delaware. Joe flipped on the light and sat down on the couch, while Olga headed to the bedroom to get changed.
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But he quickly got back on track. He asked point blank if Kelly had broken into Joe and Olga's condo to try to steal the diamonds back or to steal other jewelry to get back at Joe for what he'd done. At this point, Kelly broke down again. She said she had nothing to do with the burglary. And as angry as she was, Joe was still her brother and she loved him.
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Leonard wrapped up the interview by asking Kelly where she had been when Joe and Olga had been killed, and Kelly said she'd been home alone. She knew that was not a great alibi, but it was the truth. After the interview ended, Leonard considered Kelly to be a major suspect, but he didn't have any concrete evidence to hold her, so he had to let her go.
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The detective had not slept in a while, but he had no intention of stopping anytime soon. And after Kelly's crazy story, he wanted to talk to someone outside of the family about Joe, someone who would not have been mixed up in the family feud and who hadn't swiped any diamonds. So Leonard headed across town to Joe's auto repair shop.
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Later that afternoon, still not even 24 hours after Joe and Olga's bodies had been found, Detective Leonard walked across the parking lot of the auto repair shop that Joe had co-owned. He saw several mechanics hard at work on different cars and he also saw a few guys who looked like they'd just come by the shop to hang out.
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They seemed a little strange to Leonard, but he didn't think too much about it. He walked into a small lobby and he saw a man who looked like he was around 30 sitting behind the counter. Detective Leonard introduced himself and showed his badge and the man behind the counter stood up. He said his name was Chris Rivers and he asked if there was a problem.
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Leonard asked him if he knew who Joe Connell was. Immediately, Chris let out a big sigh, and a very annoyed look came across his face. He looked right at Leonard and said, what did he do now? This was not what the detective had expected. In fact, it really threw him off. Leonard had planned to come by the shop, learn a bit about Joe, and then leave.
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But now, he wondered if Chris might have information about something illegal Joe had been mixed up in. So right there on the spot, Leonard changed his plan, and he asked Chris if he wouldn't mind coming to the station to answer some questions. The sun had begun to set by the time Detective Leonard and Chris sat down together inside of an interview room.
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Based on what Chris had said at the auto repair shop, it seemed like he had no idea Joe had been killed, and Leonard didn't tell him. Instead, the detective asked Chris what he did at the auto repair shop. Chris said he co-owned the place with Joe, but sometimes he felt like he was doing everything by himself.
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Leonard asked him to elaborate, and so Chris said Joe seemed to like the idea of owning the business way more than actually running the business. Leonard smiled like he could relate, and he asked Chris if Joe's behavior upset him. Chris said of course it did. It was hard enough keeping the shop open, let alone profitable, but suddenly Chris stopped talking and just stared at Detective Leonard.
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Chris realized he'd just started ranting and still had no idea why he was there. So he asked again, you know, what had Joe done? At this point, Detective Leonard knew he had to tell Chris what was going on. So he said Joe hadn't done anything. Instead, someone had murdered Joe and his wife. Everything about Chris's demeanor immediately changed. His face went blank and he looked kind of pale.
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He started shaking his head. He said there was no way. Joe couldn't be gone. But Leonard said it was true. And right away, Chris got mad at himself. He couldn't believe he'd just trashed his best friend like that because of some stupid work stuff. Just like Leonard had done with Kelly, he let Chris sit there for a while and collect himself.
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Then at some point when there was a lull, the detective asked Chris when the last time he had seen Joe was. Chris said he had seen Joe the day before at work. But after he said that, Chris suddenly paused like something had just hit him.
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He told Leonard somewhat emotionally that he was actually supposed to go to Olga's birthday party the night before, and he had gone to the restaurant, but when he was outside, he realized he had left his wallet back at the shop.
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He was already feeling annoyed that he'd had to work late, so instead of going to the party and seeing his friends one last time, he had just bailed, gotten his wallet, and headed home. And now he felt really bad about it. And so Detective Leonard asked a few follow-up questions about Chris's relationship with Joe and with Olga and how they met each other and things like that.
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And then eventually, Detective Leonard said he had just one more question for the time being. He asked Chris when they had first met, why had he assumed Joe had done something that would have gotten him in trouble with the police? Chris took a breath and then said he had never told anyone this, but he knew that Joe was a big-time illegal steroid user.
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On the night of September 21, 2013, 39-year-old Joe Connell clinked his fork against a champagne glass to get the attention of his friends and family, who were sitting together on a restaurant patio in Wilmington, Delaware. Everyone at the large table quieted down as Joe stood up and raised his glass. He looked over at his wife Olga sitting right by him and he smiled at her.
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That's how he stayed in such great physical shape. However, Chris said over the past several months, Joe had gone from just using steroids to dealing them. In the days following the interview with Chris, Detective Leonard really started to dig into Joe's past, particularly his time in prison.
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Leonard and his team met with prison staff and people who'd been on the inside with Joe, and a lot of them said the same thing. When Joe was in prison, he had become very good friends with his cellmate, who was a member of a motorcycle gang called the Pagans. And Detective Leonard knew all about the pagans.
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They were directly connected to the drug trade in Wilmington and in cities across the East Coast. So he wondered if maybe Joe had gotten mixed up with the gang after he had gotten out. Maybe he had made them angry or took too much money on a drug deal and they retaliated. So Leonard methodically tracked down members of this gang and asked them if Joe Connell had been dealing drugs for them.
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Now, most of the members admitted to knowing Joe, but getting any information beyond that proved to be very difficult. This didn't surprise Leonard because drug dealing members of motorcycle gangs were not really known for talking to the police.
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But at the end of September, so about a week after the murders, Detective Leonard was sitting at his desk when an officer walked in with a strange look on his face. The door opened wider and this huge intimidating guy in a black leather jacket walked inside. and Detective Leonard couldn't believe it, because this man was one of the leaders of the pagans.
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The leader sat down and told the detective that he was not there to try to protect himself or anybody in the biker gang. He was just there to set the record straight. He said that Joe had been a very good friend, and he was still shocked that somebody had killed him, but he told the detective that Joe had absolutely nothing to do with any drug deals the pagans might be involved in.
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Joe was just a great mechanic who loved riding and working on motorcycles. Now, Detective Leonard knew how utterly bizarre it was that this man had, one, chosen to set foot in the police station, two, actually speak to a detective, and three, not even try to hide the fact that he had connections to the drug world.
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And so by the time this leader left, Leonard couldn't help but feeling like he must be telling the truth. Still though, the detective was not ready to just drop the drug lead altogether.
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Leonard did think Joe's sister Kelly was still a major suspect, but Olga had been wearing her diamond ring when she was found, so this being some kind of a drug-related hit, as opposed to a robbery attempt, made more sense to him. And soon, as his team kept looking into Joe's past, they found a new drug-related lead. That lead was a man named Josh Bay.
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Josh was a known drug dealer in town, and he had even worked as an FBI informant. But for Detective Leonard, the most important thing about Josh was that he seemed to spend a lot of his free time just sort of hanging out at Joe's auto repair shop.
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Then he cleared his throat and made a toast. He said that he still couldn't believe that he'd been lucky enough to meet and marry a beautiful, brilliant woman like Olga. And he was so excited to be there with the people they loved to wish her a happy 39th birthday. Everyone at the table shouted happy birthday, toasted Olga, and then drank their champagne. Olga blushed, and Joe laughed a bit.
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On October 4th, two weeks after the murders, Detective Leonard brought Josh Bay in for an interview, but it quickly became clear that this young man was not going to be all that helpful. In fact, Josh at first tried to play off that he didn't even know Joe or his business partner Chris.
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When Leonard pointed out that police had plenty of evidence that said he did know both men, Josh simply changed his story. He admitted he knew Joe and Chris, but only as the guys who worked on his car. Leonard pressed Josh, but it got him nowhere. Josh said he knew nothing about drug deals involving anyone at the auto shop, and he said he had no connection to Joe and Olga's murders.
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The detective didn't really believe anything Josh said, but he'd have to find proof that Josh was lying. So Leonard let him go, frustrated that he had good leads, but no clear evidence pointing to any of them. The following day, October 5th, Detective Leonard and members of his team stood at the back of a church for Joe's funeral, listening to a man sing Danny Boy over Joe's casket.
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As Leonard listened to the song, he scanned the church pews, looking at everyone who had come. And one thing stood out. Most of Joe's friends and family clearly believed Joe's sister Kelly was involved in the murders. Because nobody was speaking to Kelly. It was like the entire family was shunning her.
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Even though Leonard had leaned into Joe's potential drug connections over the past weeks, he had not crossed Kelly off his suspect list by any means. If she wasn't the one who had pulled the trigger, she could have helped plan the hit. And maybe she didn't want to rob Olga's diamond ring or her other jewelry because she knew that would lead police right back to her.
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So, standing there in the church, watching Kelly stand there uncomfortably, Detective Leonard wondered if maybe the murders were just a classic case of revenge. Four days later, on the evening of October 9th, Detective Leonard and his team gathered around a TV at the station to watch a local news show.
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This was not something they did often, but tonight, the news was running a story on Joe and Olga that would include interviews with people who had been close to the couple. Just like going to the funeral, Detective Leonard saw this as an opportunity to see if anyone would say or do something strange. The new show started and at first it was pretty standard.
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A retrospective on Joe and Olga's lives and how much people love them. But during one interview segment, Leonard heard something that took him completely by surprise. He looked around at his team to make sure he hadn't misheard something, but they had all caught it too. And they knew it could be something huge. After the news show ended, Leonard didn't waste any time.
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He laid out a new strategy to pursue what he thought might be the most important lead they'd gotten since the night of the murders. Leonard's team worked tirelessly, but it would still take a lot longer than Leonard had hoped for for them to secure enough concrete evidence to put together a case that would hold up in court.
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But in September of 2014, one year after the murders, police finally made an arrest. Now they had a clear picture of who killed Joe and Olga and how they pulled it off.
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Based on details from that news show, evidence found at the crime scene, and interviews conducted over the course of a year, the following is a reconstruction of what police believe happened outside of Joe and Olga's condo in the early morning of September 22, 2013. Around 1 a.m., the killers pulled their car into the condominium parking lot. It wore all black clothes and black gloves.
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He knew how shy his wife could be when the attention was on her. But he sat down and put his arm around her and told her that she deserved all the attention. After all, this was her special day. A few minutes later, as the group was talking and eating, Joe felt his phone buzz in his pocket. He pulled it out and saw there was a text message.
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The driver lifted their shirt, pulled a 9mm handgun from their waistband, and checked to make sure it was loaded. The passenger did the same with their .22. The killers scanned the parking lot and the surrounding area. It was well lit, but it was clear. Nobody was there. The driver nodded to the passenger.
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at which point the passenger stepped out of the car and quickly ran over to some bushes just a few yards away. The passenger crouched down, hid in the bushes, and kept their eyes fixed on Joe and Olga's front door. At the same time, the driver shut off the engine and sat in the car, waiting. About a half hour later, around 1.30 a.m., a car pulled into the parking lot.
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The driver could immediately feel themselves tense up. They looked out and saw a woman wearing a dress getting out of the car and heading up the walkway towards the front door, while a man followed shortly behind her. After a steadying breath, the driver gripped their nine millimeter and then stepped out of their car.
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And at that exact moment, right as Olga and Joe had reached the front door, the passenger leapt out of the bushes where they'd been hiding, sprinted towards Olga and fired off three quick shots at her. The bullet struck Olga in the head, cheek, and upper back, and she immediately crumpled to the ground, covered in blood.
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Joe, who was right behind her, screamed in horror, but as he ran towards his wife, the driver unloaded their 9mm from right behind Joe. He got hit multiple times, but he actually stayed on his feet. Joe stumbled forward and tried to run to the bushes, looking for any way out of here, but the driver pursued him and kept firing their gun.
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Joe took rounds in the chest, arms, legs, and the back of his head. Finally, he hit the ground and died in the bushes. The driver ran back to the car and climbed inside. The passenger was already there, panting and trying to catch their breath. The driver started up the car, threw it in reverse, and peeled out of the lot.
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A few minutes later, when the killers were clear of the condo, the driver eased off the gas and told the passenger to let the person who had hired them know that the job was done. The two people who shot and killed Joe and Olga had no personal connection to them at all. They had simply been hired to do a job by Josh Bay, the drug dealer who had hung out at the auto repair shop.
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But Josh had also been hired by somebody else to carry out these murders. And the person who had hired Josh and who was behind setting all of this up was Joe's own best friend and business partner, Chris Rivers. For all of Chris's talk about Joe using and selling steroids, police discovered that it was actually Chris who appeared to have a major drug issue with opioids and cocaine.
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and Chris's drug habit had begun to take a huge financial toll on him. He was basically burning through all his money. But Chris believed he had found a solution for all his problems. Chris and Joe had taken out a joint insurance policy for the auto repair business.
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He read it, then quickly replied, and then jumped back into the conversation at the table. But pretty much right away, loud music began playing from inside the restaurant, and Olga immediately got excited. The music meant that the dance floor in this large restaurant and bar was now open. And the dance floor was one of the big reasons they'd chosen this place to celebrate here in the first place.
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Essentially, this policy would pay out a large lump sum to one owner and give that owner full control of the company if the other owner and any other beneficiaries died. This meant that to get the payout and to take sole control of the company, Chris would not only have to get rid of Joe, he would also have to get rid of Joe's possible beneficiary, Olga.
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So Chris reached out to his drug dealer, Josh Bay, for help. He offered Josh a cut of the insurance payout to murder Joe and Olga. But Josh had no intention of actually pulling the trigger himself, so he subcontracted the job out to two hired killers he knew from his work in the drug trade. On the night of Olga's birthday party, Chris texted Joe.
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He said he was finishing up something at work, but he wanted to know how late they'd be at the restaurant, because he still wanted to come to the party. Joe texted back that they would be there late, most likely until around closing time. Chris would pass that information on to Josh, and Josh would let the hired killers know so that they could be waiting at the condo when Joe and Olga got home.
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As Joe's business partner, Chris had been a suspect, but the bulk of the early investigation focused on Joe's sister Kelly and also on the possible drug angle with the Pagans motorcycle gang.
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But when Detective Leonard and his team watched the news show about Joe and Olga, they heard Chris say in an interview that on the night his two friends got killed, he had worked late and then gone straight home. This is not what Chris had originally told Detective Leonard.
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Chris had told Leonard that he had first driven to the restaurant for the birthday party, realized he'd forgotten his wallet, and then left and went home. This little change in Chris's story was like a massive alarm going off inside of Detective Leonard's head.
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So he and his team shifted their focus and dug deep into Chris's personal life and financial records, and they eventually discovered Chris's money problems, his drug habit, and his direct connection to the drug dealer, Josh Bae. Chris was charged with double homicide and found guilty, and he received two life sentences. Josh Bay got a plea deal and was sentenced to five years in prison.
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As for Joe's sister Kelly, despite her feud with her brother, she had nothing to do with the murders, and no evidence ever surfaced that she was at all involved in that burglary of Joe and Olga's condo. A quick note about our stories, they are all based on true events, but we sometimes use pseudonyms to protect the people involved and some details are fictionalized for dramatic purposes.
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Because as shy as Olga was in a lot of social situations, she actually loved to let loose and dance. And so Joe instinctively stood up, looked over at his wife and took her hand, and then together they walked inside the restaurant. Once inside, they immediately hit the dance floor. And for a minute, Joe just stood there watching his wife dance.
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Suddenly, Joe heard a loud scream. He got up and ran down the hall to the bedroom. There he found his wife sitting on the floor yelling and crying, and then he noticed her jewelry boxes had been completely emptied and thrown off her dresser. Thousands of dollars worth of rings and necklaces were just gone. But through her tears, Olga said she didn't care about how much money these things cost.
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She had beautiful blonde hair, she was wearing a nice dress, and she had on sparkling pieces of expensive jewelry. Joe had meant every word in his short birthday toast. He really couldn't believe how lucky he was to be married to this woman. The couple had met online about three years earlier, when Joe was just coming out of the craziest and most difficult period of his life.
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Joe had gotten into this drunken brawl and ended up pulling out a gun and the police got involved. Joe had said the gun was not loaded, but that event still had landed Joe in prison for almost six years. And when he'd gotten out, he'd vowed to clean up his life. And pretty quickly after getting out, two things made that possible.
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One, he'd become co-owner of an auto repair shop with his best friend, Chris, and two, he'd met Olga. Joe and Olga had gotten along right away and so they quickly set up a date. And as soon as they hung out in person, Joe thought Olga was the most beautiful woman he'd ever seen and one of the smartest people he'd ever met.
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Olga had grown up in Russia and while she was there, she'd received college degrees in physics and chemistry. Now, Joe never thought of himself as being a particularly smart guy. He thought he was just a really good car mechanic. But Olga, she fell for him the same way he fell for her. She thought he was funny and outgoing and it didn't hurt that she thought he was handsome and in great shape.
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And so not long after their initial meeting, they moved in together and then eventually in June of 2013, they got married just a few months before Olga's 39th birthday. Back on the dance floor, Joe shouted over the loud music and told his wife how amazing she looked tonight. Olga wrapped her arms around his neck and they started dancing together. And before they knew it, hours had flown by.
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The dance floor had all but cleared, and the restaurant staff was now starting to shut things down for the night. Joe and Olga said goodbye to the few friends who'd stayed to dance with them, and then they too left the restaurant. On the drive home, Joe and Olga talked and laughed, still wired from their night out.
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But at one point, Joe got this sad look on his face, and Olga asked if something was wrong. Joe shook his head and said he was just sorry that his little sister Kelly hadn't been at the party. Olga didn't say it, but she knew that Kelly hadn't just missed the party. Kelly had not been invited.
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Because Joe and his younger sister were in the middle of a full-on feud, and they had completely stopped talking to each other. And as much as it upset Joe not to have Kelly in his life anymore, he could not bring himself to reconcile with her. But Olga didn't want anything to spoil her perfect birthday, so she quickly changed the subject. And within a few minutes, Joe was laughing again.
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Around 1.30 a.m., Joe pulled his car into a parking spot in front of his and Olga's condo. Olga got out of the car and headed down the walkway towards their front door. Joe moved kind of slowly and trailed behind her. Olga pulled her keys out of her purse, and right as she was about to unlock the door, she heard a strange noise coming from behind her.
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Not long after that, Officer Kelly Richards of the New Castle County Police Department got out of her cruiser and headed up the walkway towards Joe and Olga's condo. Just a few minutes earlier, emergency dispatch had been flooded with calls from people in the surrounding condos saying they had just heard gunshots, and one caller had been sure he could see a body.
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Some of these pieces that had been stolen were precious family heirlooms that had been passed down to Olga from hers and Joe's mothers. Joe sat down next to his wife and tried to comfort her, but he didn't tell her what he was actually thinking because Joe thought he actually might know who just robbed them.
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Richards was the first cop on the scene, but she saw paramedics crouched down by the front door of the condo, furiously trying to help someone who was on the ground. Richards approached, and she saw there was an unconscious blonde woman in a dress laying there. Blood was pouring from the woman's cheek and head onto the concrete, and Richards thought it looked like she'd been shot.
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The woman was still breathing, though, but just barely. Richards saw there was a ring with several diamonds in it on the woman's finger. So Richards' first thought was that the attacker must not have been here to rob this woman. Officer Richards saw more paramedics rushing down the walkway with a gurney, so she moved out of the way.
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But as Richards watched the paramedics wheel this woman to a nearby ambulance, she realized something strange. Richards knew this woman. Suddenly, Officer Richards looked around and really took in the condo and the surrounding area, and then it hit her. This woman who was being rushed to the hospital was Olga Connell.
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Less than two months earlier, Officer Richards had worked a burglary case at this condo because someone had broken in and stolen a bunch of Olga's expensive jewelry. Just then, Richards heard cars screech to a stop in the parking lot, and it sort of snapped her out of her daze.
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She saw several police officers coming her way, looking at her expectantly, and she told them they needed to do a sweep of the area. And it didn't take long before Richards heard one of the officers calling her name. She saw the officer crouching down near some bushes a few yards away from the front door, and so Richards walked over and joined the officer.
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And there, half hidden by the bushes, she saw the body of a man who had been shot multiple times. And it was clear he was already dead. Officer Richards knelt down and shined her flashlight to get a clear look at the man's face. And right away, she recognized him too. This was Olga's husband, Joe. Officer Richards had met with him several times during that burglary investigation.
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Around this time, Officer Richards looked over and saw the lead investigator, Detective Jamie Leonard, getting out of his car. Richards got up and walked over to him, but before she could say anything, Detective Leonard told her that he'd just gotten news that the woman who'd been found at the scene here had died on the way to the hospital.
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So they were now dealing with what looked like a double homicide. Officer Richards said she knew both victims. Their names were Olga and Joe Connell, and their condo had actually been robbed back in July. But Richards said that wasn't all. While the police had never arrested anyone in connection with that robbery, Joe Connell had suspected he knew who robbed them.
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And he feared this actually might only be the first in a series of attacks in an escalating family war. But before we get into that story, if you're a fan of the Strange, Dark, and Mysterious delivered in story format, then you've come to the right podcast because that's all we do and we upload twice a week, once on Monday and once on Thursday.
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And police had even interviewed this person. It was Joe's own little sister, Kelly. Hey, listeners, big news for true crime lovers. You can now enjoy this podcast ad free on Amazon Music with your Prime membership.
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That afternoon, Detective Leonard sat at his desk looking over crime scene photos, waiting for Joe's sister, Kelly, to get to the station. And as he looked at photos of Olga laying by the front door and Joe laying several yards away in the bushes, he had a theory that he just couldn't shake.
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Leonard had spent the entire morning with Officer Richards and a few others combing the area around the condo, and a couple of things had stood out to him. The first was that the bushes where Joe's body had been found were littered with nine millimeter bullet casings. However, they also found .22 caliber casings on site.
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And the report Leonard had received from the hospital where Olga had been taken stated that her bullet wounds had come from a .22. Now, Leonard knew it was possible that the killer could have just had two different guns on them. But based on how far apart the bodies had been found, he thought it was more likely that there had been two shooters at the scene, one to kill Olga and one to kill Joe.
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And if that was the case, Leonard thought there was a good chance that these murders had been planned and that they were not the result of some kind of spur-of-the-moment argument or anything like that. Detective Leonard's door opened and an officer stepped inside. He told Leonard that Joe's sister Kelly had just arrived and was waiting in one of the interview rooms.
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Leonard put the crime scene photos back in a folder, put on his suit jacket, and then walked out of his office. Detective Leonard reached the interview room, went inside, and sat down at a table across from Kelly. And right away, his first impression was she looked like she hadn't slept all night. Joe and Olga's immediate families had all been informed about the murders.
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But since Olga's family was in Russia, Joe's parents and his two siblings were the ones dealing directly with the police. And Leonard knew that could take a toll on someone. So he started the interview with what he thought was a simple question. What was Kelly's relationship with her brother Joe like? But just hearing this question sent Kelly into a total breakdown.
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She began sobbing and she struggled to catch her breath. She said that she and Joe had actually been fighting and had stopped talking to each other. But now he was dead and so she'd never get a chance to talk to him again. Detective Leonard just sat there quietly and let Kelly cry for a few minutes. As far as he could tell, Kelly was truly upset about the death of her brother.
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But Leonard also knew that didn't necessarily mean she was totally innocent. When Kelly finally composed herself and said she was okay to continue, Detective Leonard laid everything out. He told her he knew about the burglary at Joe and Olga's condo, and he knew she, Kelly, had been interviewed by police in connection to that crime.
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He also assumed that that's why she and her brother had stopped talking to each other. But Kelly said no, that her and Joe had actually started fighting before all that. And then Kelly leaned forward and began telling her story. And as she did, Detective Leonard just sat there thinking, this sounds totally insane.
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Kelly told the detective that years ago, her mother had given her the most beautiful ring with a bunch of diamonds in it. The ring was a family heirloom and her mom had wanted to pass it on to her only daughter. Kelly had treasured this ring and dreamed of it being her engagement ring someday.
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Then a few months ago, Kelly's mother had asked if she could borrow the ring so she could wear it on a trip she was taking. Kelly said, of course. After all, it had been her mother's ring for a long time before Kelly got it. However, when her mom had returned the ring, Kelly knew right away that something was wrong. The ring looked different.
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So on a hunch, Kelly had brought the ring to a jeweler and the jeweler said there were no diamonds in this ring. There were only cubic zirconias. Cubic zirconias are cheaper stones that are often used to imitate diamonds. Kelly told Detective Leonard that she'd been really confused at first.
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But pretty soon, everything clicked when she heard that Joe had given Olga this beautiful engagement ring with several diamonds in it. And so Kelly got in touch with Olga, wanting to know if those diamonds had come from her family heirloom ring. Olga had said she had no idea what Kelly was talking about, but it hadn't taken long for Kelly to get her mom and Joe to admit what they had done.
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They had taken the diamonds out of Kelly's ring when she lent it to her mother, put those diamonds in a new ring for Olga, and put cubic zirconias in the original, gave it back to Kelly, and just hoped Kelly wouldn't notice. At this point, Kelly stopped talking. And at first, Detective Leonard really didn't know what to say. This was like the plot twist of a heist movie or something.
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That's when Hervey had gone to Mexico. It was where he grew up and where he still had friends and family. Gabriel said that Hervey traveled internationally a lot, and sometimes he would go on these open-ended trips, so Gabriel was not always exactly sure when Hervey was going to come home again.
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But Hervey had been calling pretty regularly just to check in, and then suddenly the call stopped, so Gabriel started to get really worried and then eventually filed the missing person report. Detective Sanchez asked Gabriel if he had called or texted Hervey after Hervey stopped calling, just to see if maybe he was staying in Mexico longer.
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Gabriel said he hadn't, but he explained that Hervey had actually left his cell phone behind at the apartment because he didn't get service in Mexico. Now, Gabriel knew there were ways around that, but he said discussing technology with Hervey was usually a losing cause. Hervey just preferred to use a landline and an international calling card whenever he was in Mexico.
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Sanchez asked if there was a record of these calls from Herbie, and Gabriel said yes, and he grabbed his phone and showed the detectives the calls he'd received from Herbie in January. The detectives saw that these calls were from an international calling card number, which meant they didn't actually know who placed those calls, but it did corroborate what Gabriel had told them.
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The detectives would talk to Gabriel for a bit longer, but the whole time they stuck to their original plan. They didn't reveal anything about Herbie's murder. Back at the station, Detective Knowles and Sanchez went over what they had so far. And they agreed it was not very much. And what little they did have didn't quite add up.
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And it really had to do with this trip to Mexico they had just learned about. Did Hervey really go to Mexico and then get murdered and dismembered there? And then what, his body parts were shipped back to L.A. and dumped in L.A. ? Or did Hervey come back from Mexico in one piece and then somehow get intercepted before he got home by somebody who then murdered, dismembered, and dumped him?
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Both these theories just seemed like they were missing something. Like, did Hervey really even go to Mexico? They didn't know.
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I mean, regardless of what Hervey's roommate Gabriel had told them, the detectives thought it actually made a whole lot more sense that somebody would have killed and dismembered Hervey right there in his own apartment and disposed of him in nearby Griffith Park, which certainly made Gabriel seem very suspicious.
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The following day, which is now three days after Hervey's head had been found, the detectives returned to Hervey's apartment, and this time they showed up with a search warrant, a team of police, and cadaver dogs. Once inside, they let the dogs loose, and the dogs began frantically sniffing around the floorboards, the furniture, and the corners of every room.
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Meanwhile, Gabriel sat at the table and watched in silence as the investigators practically tore up the tiny one-bedroom apartment. The search team rifled through drawers and closets, they confiscated computers and phones, and they photographed every item inside the apartment. But at the end of the search, they realized they had found absolutely nothing.
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There was no blood, no hidden torso, no bone saws or other dismemberment tools. And so this apartment just didn't appear to be the place where the murder or dismemberment or both took place. As the search team began to leave the apartment, detectives Knowles and Sanchez sat down at the table with Gabriel.
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And Gabriel didn't look angry or raise his voice, but he wanted to know like what had changed since they spoke a day earlier that made the detectives feel like they could come into his and Herbie's home and tear it apart like this. Sanchez whispered something to Knowles and then she finally broke the news to Gabriel.
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Those body parts that were found in the canyon that were all over the news belonged to Hervey. Hervey was deceased and so now Hervey's death was being investigated as a homicide. Immediately, all the color drained from Gabriel's face. He said he couldn't believe it. This didn't seem real. Now, the detectives understood how upsetting this was for Gabriel, but they needed more information.
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So they pressed Gabriel for more details about Hervey's trip to Mexico. And so, for the next half hour, Gabriel, despite being in shock, was cooperative and answered every question and tried to give detectives any information at all that could be useful. Lumen is the world's first handheld metabolic coach. It's a device that measures your metabolism through your breath.
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Later that day, the two detectives returned to the station and went into an evidence room where everything collected from Herbie's apartment was laid out on a table. One of the evidence technicians in the room told the detectives that he happened to look at the photos taken of the apartment and some of the victim's artwork hung on the walls was worth a ton of money.
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The Diego Rivera painting alone was likely worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. Now, this struck the detectives as being really odd. According to the information Gabriel had provided, and based on what the detectives had learned from their databases, Hervey was a retiree, living on a small pension in a small one-bedroom apartment.
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So how was he also a serious art collector able to acquire paintings that were potentially worth a small fortune? The following day, so now four days after Herbie's head was discovered, a call came through to Knowles' desk.
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The man on the other end introduced himself as a retired LAPD narcotics detective, and this retired detective said he'd been reading the newspaper that morning and happened to see that the dismembered victim from Griffith Park had been identified. And when he saw the name, Hervey Medellin, it immediately rang a bell.
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He said back in the early 1990s, when he was investigating a Mexican drug cartel, Hervey's name had come up in the investigation. And in fact, he had interviewed Hervey a couple of times. Knowles kept listening, but right away his mind began to race. A connection to Mexican cartels and drug trafficking could maybe explain how Hervey had enough cash to buy those famous paintings.
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The retired detective explained that Hervey had worked as a ticket taker for Mexicana Airlines. At that time, that airline was believed to have been used for drug smuggling. And Hervey had become a kind of personal concierge for the wives and girlfriends of drug cartel members.
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When these women would visit LA, Hervey would book their hotel rooms, arrange shopping trips, and give them dining recommendations. Now, none of that was illegal, so the narcotics detective had no reason to pursue Hervey. He ultimately just kind of became a minor character in a much bigger investigation.
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But now that this former detective found out that Hervey had turned up dead and dismembered, he wondered if maybe Hervey's connection to the drug cartels had gone much deeper than he realized. As Knowles listened, he was having the same type of thoughts. Was Hervey a drug mule? Were those paintings a form of payment from the cartels?
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Did Hervey fail to repay a debt and did the cartel brutally murder him for it? After all, some Mexican cartels were known to behead and dismember some of their victims. Knowles thanked the retired detective for reaching out to him. He hung up and passed this new information along to his partner Sanchez. The detectives now realized they could be in over their heads.
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Poking the hornet's nest with a Mexican drug cartel is the kind of thing that gets people killed, even cops. Over the next week, Knowles and Sanchez started to pursue this new lead, but they quickly discovered that a potential run-in with a violent Mexican drug cartel was actually not the biggest issue they were facing.
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Instead, the big issue that kept setting them back was just old-fashioned bureaucracy. Getting Mexican law enforcement agencies to cooperate in any investigation was never really easy, but when the investigation involved the cartels, it seemed almost impossible.
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Mexican authorities weren't eager to anger the cartels or possibly jeopardize their own investigations into the drug trade just to assist LA cops on a homicide case. And when Knowles and Sanchez turned to federal law enforcement agencies in the United States, they ran into similar problems.
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The DEA and the FBI were running multiple investigations involving the cartels and they could not put those at risk just because Hervey had been interviewed by a narcotics cop over 20 years ago. But the FBI did at least tell Knowles and Sanchez that they would dig into Hervey's financial records to see if he had a clear connection to the cartels before he was killed.
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In the meantime, the feds told the LA detectives to go ahead and stay away from the cartel stuff and just let them handle that. They should just focus on leads that were in the United States. Now, Knowles and Sanchez understood why the feds reacted that way, but they still felt like a huge lead, i.e. going after the cartels, had just been yanked out from under them.
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On top of that, the FBI had no reason to expedite finding these financial records because this was not their case, so there was no telling how long it would actually take the feds to provide them with any information. Feeling frustrated and a bit lost on what to do next, Knowles and Sanchez turned their focus back to the victim. The detectives reached out to Hervey's L.A.
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friends to learn more about who Hervey was. And the picture that began to emerge of Hervey was of a warm, friendly guy who had moved to L.A. from Mexico as a young man who had worked hard and was now enjoying his retirement and living the American dream that he had always believed in.
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Now, Knowles and Sanchez didn't think any of this information really helped their case, and none of it seemed to make Hervey look like a guy who had deep ties to the drug trafficking world. The detectives would still need to hear back from the FBI, but if Hervey had been working with a cartel, he'd managed to keep it pretty secret.
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So the detectives just kept pushing forward, talking to everyone they could who knew Hervey. And finally, just when they felt like they were running out of people to interview, the detectives did learn something very interesting. Hervey's roommate, Gabriel, was not just his roommate. Gabriel was Hervey's boyfriend.
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Now, Gabriel had not told the detectives this and they couldn't believe that he had kept this a secret across the two interviews they had done with him. Having an intimate relationship with the victim immediately put Gabriel at the top of the suspect list and the fact that he had lied about the relationship made him look even more suspicious.
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So, Knowles and Sanchez called Gabriel into the station for another interview. But when they confronted him, instead of him getting defensive or trying to deny it, Gabriel readily admitted that he and Hervey were indeed in a relationship. He told the detectives he was just a very private person and felt uncomfortable sharing those kinds of details.
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Sanchez and Knowles did not believe Gabriel, and they told him that because he had hid this information, they felt like he could be hiding something else. But Gabriel insisted he wasn't hiding anything. And then without any further prompting, he opened up about his and Herbie's relationship.
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Gabriel told them all about how he and Hervey had met, how at first they were good friends, and then they fell in love and moved in together. And after several minutes of this, when the detectives were finally able to steer the conversation back to the weeks leading up to the murder, Gabriel's story about Hervey's trip to Mexico and the phone calls he got didn't change at all.
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By the end of the interview, Knowles and Sanchez really didn't know what to think. Gabriel had clearly held back information from them about the relationship with Hervey, but when confronted, he told them all about it and then hadn't changed or embellished his story at all from that point forward.
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And also, they had already searched the apartment and there was no evidence that connected Gabriel to the crime. Not long after this meeting, things only seemed to get worse for the two detectives.
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The FBI came back to them and told them that after doing some digging, they found that Herbie's financial records did not show any connection to any drug cartels or any other known criminals for that matter. Now, they still couldn't completely rule out the cartel's involvement in this murder, but for now at least, this lead felt like a dead end.
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By mid-April, so three months after Hervey's head had been found, the LAPD finally released Hervey's remains to his family so they could have a proper funeral. Knowles and Sanchez couldn't help but feel like they had let Hervey and his family down. They were no closer to finding the killer or killers than they had been on day one of the investigation.
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And in the weeks following the funeral, Knowles and Sanchez started to get assigned new cases that required immediate action. Hervey's murder was slowly becoming a cold case. Until one day in June, so now five months after Hervey's head had been found, Detective Knowles' phone rang, and he had one of the most bizarre conversations he'd had in all his time working in homicide.
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The caller introduced himself as an investigator with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. For a second, Knowles thought somebody might be prank calling him, because it was not every day an L.A. detective gets a call from a Canadian Mountie. But the Mountie quickly told Knowles that he'd been made aware of the case from back in January with the severed head and limbs.
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And the Mountie said they had actually just had a very similar case up in Quebec. A video had been uploaded to the internet that showed this naked man tied to a bed and another individual dressed all in black repeatedly stabbing him with an ice pick. And then once the man was dead, the killer dismembered the body before sexually abusing the body and cannibalizing some parts of it.
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On Christmas Day 2011, 67-year-old Hervey Medellin turned off the oven in his apartment in Hollywood, California, opened up the oven door, and pulled out a casserole dish covered with foil. Hervey looked up at the clock and smiled, because his friend, who was coming over for a holiday visit, would be there any minute, and the food he was making had finished cooking at exactly the right time.
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And as if that wasn't brutal enough, the killer then sent other parts of the body to members of Canadian Parliament and several different elementary schools. Detective Knowles just sat there on the phone in silence. I mean, this was a totally brutal and horrible story, but he couldn't see any real connection to Hervey's murder, aside from both victims having been dismembered.
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But the Mountie continued and said they had actually already arrested this internet killer. And this man, who was a Canadian citizen named Luca Magnata, was obsessed with Hollywood. He had recently lived in Los Angeles, not far from where Herbie lived, where he acted in porn movies and worked as a male escort before going back to Canada.
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But the big thing, the real reason the Mountie had called Knowles in the first place, was that while Luca was living in Los Angeles, he kept a blog in which he wrote about his exploits. And one of the things he wrote about was the dismembered body found in Bronson Canyon, Hervey's body.
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After the call with the Mountie, Knowles quickly met with Sanchez, and the detectives decided the first thing they needed to do was figure out exactly when Luca had been in the United States to see if maybe he could have actually crossed paths with Hervey in late December or January, the time they believed Hervey was killed.
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They reached out to the agencies in the US and Canada that maintain customs data, and they were able to find out when Luca actually crossed the border into the US and when he went back into Canada.
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Then they dug into Hervey's customs data to try to nail down the exact time he traveled to Mexico and if and when he came back to the States in order to see if he and Luca had been in LA at the same time. But while they were looking into this, they discovered something that totally shocked them and made them rethink everything about this investigation.
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They came to realize that the reason the case had stalled out was because they had been operating under a false assumption the whole time. And after making this huge discovery, Knowles and Sanchez believed they had finally cracked the case. Based on all the evidence gathered throughout the investigation, the following is a reconstruction of what police believe happened to Hervey Medellin.
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At around 3 a.m. on December 27, 2011, the killer crept through Hervey's apartment to the bedroom. The door was cracked open, and the killer looked in and saw Hervey sleeping inside. The killer threw the door open, rushed the bed, and jumped on top of him. Hervey immediately woke up and began yelling as the killer tried to cup their hands over Hervey's mouth to muffle his screams.
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Hervey kept fighting back, but the killer wrapped their hands around his throat and began to squeeze. Hervey continued to yell so the killer squeezed harder and harder and after about five minutes of this, Hervey stopped struggling. His face was blue and his eyes were empty. He was dead.
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The killer remained in Hervey's apartment and a bit later that morning, they opened up Gabriel's computer and did a search. They pulled up an article titled, Butchering the Human Carcass for Consumption. This article provided detailed instructions on how to dismember a human body for the purpose of cooking and consuming it.
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Once the killer felt like they had a clear understanding of what to do, they went back to Hervey's bedroom and used a saw they had recently purchased to separate Hervey's head and limbs from his body. The killer then refrigerated those body parts for three weeks, but for reasons no one fully understands, the killer never actually consumed any of it.
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He turned down the radio playing Christmas music in the kitchen and called out to his roommate, Gabriel Martinez, and told him lunch was almost ready. Gabriel had his eyes glued to his laptop, totally engrossed in whatever it was he was doing, and so he just gave Hervey a sort of grunt of acknowledgement. Hervey responded with an irritated sigh.
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Indy quickly thought a scent and led his handler to a mound of dirt just off the path. Indy pawed at the dirt and suddenly revealed the top of a plastic bag. The dog's handler reached into the dirt and pulled out the bag, and when she looked inside, she saw two dismembered human feet and a hand.
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There was no cannibalism, despite clearly there being some level of interest based on that search that was done on Gabriel's computer on the night of the murder. And so three weeks after the murder, the killer walked through Bronson Canyon in the dark with Hervey's body parts and dug shallow graves at various spots and buried them.
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And soon after that, with Hervey now officially out of the picture, the killer was able to transfer all the money from Hervey's personal bank account into the joint bank account they had opened after they had moved in together. Gabriel Martinez murdered his boyfriend Hervey in the apartment they shared.
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It turned out that before Christmas of 2011, Gabriel and Hervey's relationship had started to completely fall apart. In fact, things had gotten so bad that Hervey told Gabriel he wanted to end things and he said Gabriel should start looking for another place to live.
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Gabriel knew he would not be able to afford a Los Angeles apartment or lead the life he'd grown accustomed to on his own because he didn't have a steady income. He had become financially dependent on Hervey and so, in his desperation, he had decided to kill Hervey and steal his money.
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On Christmas Day, when Hervey's friend Amelia came over, Gabriel sat on the couch with his laptop, googling what tools to use to cut up a human body. Being Hervey's significant other and failing to disclose their relationship to police had made Gabriel a leading suspect early on, but police had found no clear evidence pointing to Gabriel or anyone else, so the case had gone cold.
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But it was the customs data that detectives obtained while following the lead on the Canadian internet killer, Luca Magnata, that helped lead them back to Gabriel. Customs data showed that Luca had been in Canada at the time Hervey went missing, which ruled Luca out as the killer.
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But more importantly, this customs data made it clear that Hervey had never actually traveled or even booked a flight to Mexico at any time in late December or January. Gabriel had crafted this intricate lie about Hervey's trip, even providing phone records showing all the times Hervey had called him from Mexico.
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But once investigators knew Gabriel was lying, they dug deeper into his phone records and discovered the calls had actually come from Hervey's friend, who was calling Gabriel from Mexico, but they were doing so to find out why they had suddenly stopped hearing from Hervey.
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At this point, the detectives were sure Gabriel was the killer, but the final piece of evidence they would need to convince the district attorney would not be discovered until 2014, over two years after the murder. At that time, a city worker was digging in the ground not too far from where Hervey's head had been discovered, and he found a plastic bag containing pieces of decaying human flesh.
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Gabriel, who was 30 years younger than Hervey, had been spending so much time online lately that he barely connected with the world around him. Hervey realized it was very likely a generational thing, but he didn't understand why anyone would want to spend so much time just staring at a computer screen. But Hervey refused to be bothered by Gabriel today.
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A DNA sample of this flesh matched Hervey's DNA, but it was actually the bag itself that sealed Hervey's case. Because this was a very specific type of bag, one that was used to protect and transport expensive paintings. And it matched those same types of bags that had been found in Hervey and Gabriel's apartment.
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Los Angeles detectives tracked Gabriel down in San Antonio, Texas, where he had married a wealthy woman who was supporting him, and with the help of local police, they arrested him. Gabriel was eventually found guilty of murder and sentenced to 25 years to life in prison. A quick note about our stories.
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It was Christmas, and Christmas was a time for joy, friends, and good food. Hervey set down the hot casserole dish on the table in the small dining area, and he looked around with satisfaction at all the Christmas decorations he had spent hours hanging up. Hervey's entire one-bedroom apartment now looked like it had been decorated by a professional interior designer.
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But perhaps the most impressive part of the decorations was not actually the Christmas stuff. It was the paintings that were hanging on the walls. These were not paintings that would be found in most small one-bedroom apartments. These were original works by famous artists. Just then, the doorbell rang, interrupting Hervey's thoughts, and Hervey removed his oven mitts and went to open the door.
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And when he did, he saw his friend Amelia standing there, holding several wrapped presents. Hervey grinned and said Merry Christmas and gave Amelia a big hug. Then he let her inside and told her to put the presents down, because before they got to presents and to food, he had to show her something.
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Amelia put down the presents, said hello to Gabriel, and then Hervey took her hand and led her across the front room. Then Hervey pointed to a painting hanging on the wall, and he could hear Amelia gasp. She turned to Hervey almost in disbelief and asked if it was an original. Hervey smiled and nodded.
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He said the last time he'd gone down to Mexico, where he was originally from, he had acquired this painting, which was an original work of art by Diego Rivera, one of the most famous Mexican painters to have ever lived. After staring at this painting with his friend for several minutes, Hervey said it was time to go eat.
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He told Gabriel to put his computer away for a while and join them, and then the three of them headed to the table and dug into the casserole Hervey had prepared. While they ate, Hervey told Amelia more about his latest trip to Mexico and also about the travel plans he was making to destinations all over the world. Hervey said sometimes he still couldn't believe this was actually his real life.
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He'd worked so hard from the moment he came to the United States as a young man with the hope that one day he'd be able to do whatever he wanted. And now he felt like he'd accomplished that. He was retired and filling his days with adventure and art. Hervey, Amelia, and Gabriel spent the day eating, talking, laughing, and exchanging gifts.
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Indy's discovery would launch an investigation that would lead two LA detectives into the most insane case they'd ever worked, a case that would involve everything from Mexican drug cartels to a Canadian cannibal.
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For Hervey, who had spent most of his life far away from his family, this really felt like the perfect holiday. And other than maybe traveling, he couldn't imagine a better way to spend his time than eating delicious food and catching up with friends. By late afternoon, Amelia said unfortunately she had to go home, so Hervey walked her to the door.
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He gave her another big hug, wished her Merry Christmas again, and said he couldn't wait to get together with her in the new year. More than three weeks later, on the morning of Tuesday, January 17th, a dog walker named Lauren Kornberg left her house with her mother and nine dogs. They headed toward their usual hiking path, which cut through an area called Bronson Canyon.
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Bronson Canyon is located inside of Griffith Park, which is basically LA's equivalent to New York's Central Park, but it sits high above the city. It was the perfect winter morning in Los Angeles, which meant it was a crisp 50 degrees and the Hollywood Hills were bathed in soft orange sunlight. So Lauren and her mom took the dogs up a side path that branched out from the main hiking trail.
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And once they were far enough away from other hikers, they let the dogs off leash. And as soon as that happened, the dogs instantly began playfully running around together. But one of them, a golden retriever, broke away from the pack and wandered over toward a bushy area next to a shallow ravine off the side of the path. And this golden retriever began digging in this one area of the brush.
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Lauren watched as the retriever pulled out a plastic bag from the brush and then began sniffing it. And as the dog began to sort of vigorously paw at this bag, a large round object suddenly rolled out of it and began tumbling down into the ravine. Two other dogs from the group, a husky and a small terrier, ran down the ravine after this big round object.
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And Lauren's mom asked what had just rolled out of the bag. Lauren said she didn't know, but it sort of looked like a movie prop. Which wouldn't actually be an unusual thing to find lying around, because there were Hollywood special effects and prop houses not too far from here, and many movies and TV shows were filmed in this area.
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Lauren's mom walked over toward the ravine to try to get a better look at this movie prop, but as she got close to the edge, she looked down and saw that the dogs were no longer playing. In fact, the terrier was backing away from this object with its hair up like the dog was terrified. And so Lauren, she kind of leaned forward and looked as best as she could to see what this object was.
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And suddenly, when one of the dogs stepped out of the way, she had a clear line of sight onto this object. And when she saw what it was, she began backing away too. Because the object was no prop. It was a real severed human head.
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About an hour later, helicopters loudly hovered over the canyon and police blocked access to the entire area as more than a dozen LAPD cruisers, CSI units, and news vans parked along the nearby scenic overlook. Detective Chuck Knowles and his partner, Detective Lisa Sanchez, walked up the trail and met with the uniformed officers who had cordoned off the area with police tape.
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By this point, crime scene investigators had retrieved the severed head from the ravine and brought it onto the trail. When Detective Sanchez walked over to them and saw the severed head, her stomach churned. She had investigated her fair share of murder cases, but this was the first time she'd dealt with any kind of dismemberment.
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As Sanchez began to study the head, one of the uniformed officers walked up to her and told her that the two women who actually found the head at first thought it was fake. They thought it was a movie prop. Detective Sanchez could understand why, because there was very little decomposition and the head was so fresh and pristine that it looked like it had just been removed.
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From the looks of it, Sanchez believed the head belonged to a man who could be in his 60s, but that was about all she could guess about the victim at this point. So police began fanning out and searching the area, hoping to find some more clues. More helicopters and search units began to pour into the area and the search expanded to a seven acre radius.
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So if that's of interest to you, the next time the follow button goes camping, wait for them to go to bed for the night, at which point light and then throw a Yon Shakaduma firework onto their tent. Okay, let's get into today's story. The show is brought to you by Progressive. Fiscally responsible, financial geniuses, monetary magicians.
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Searchers began entering backyards of the homes in the area, and some of these homes were really expensive houses that belonged to famous movie stars, so the police knew this case was going to draw even more media attention. Around 4.30 p.m., the sun began to set, and despite an exhaustive search of the area, no further human remains turned up.
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So the searchers left their equipment, kept the area cordoned off, and went home for the night. That evening, reports of the dismembered body found in Griffith Park were all over local news stations. And although violent crime in LA was far from rare, violent crime in this particular neighborhood in Bronson Canyon was almost unheard of.
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The people who lived in the neighborhood, who were willing to talk on camera, were shocked that something like this could happen just beyond their backyards. People who had been hiking and walking their dogs in Bronson Canyon for years told reporters they were now afraid to step foot on the hiking paths until the killer or killers were apprehended.
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The following day, LAPD returned to Bronson Canyon and performed a highly organized grid search, scouring the area where the head had turned up. The police were already feeling pressure from the media, city leaders, and local residents to find the people or person who had committed this horrific crime.
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But detectives Knowles and Sanchez knew there was still so much physical area to cover and search, and they still had no idea who the victim even was. So this just didn't seem like a case they could just wrap up in a couple of days.
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And by late morning, the searchers had still found nothing new when a police truck pulled up and a dog handler stepped out with her cadaver dog, a German shepherd named Indiana Bones, who was famous for being the first four-legged detective on L.A. County Coroner's team. After getting out of the car, Indy's handler began leading the dog up a nearby hill.
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And almost immediately as they began to walk, Indy pulled the handler in the direction of this nearby dirt mound. The handler walked over to the mound and, with a gloved hand, began pushing the dirt aside, revealing what looked like a shallow grave. And in this shallow grave was a plastic bag.
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The handler reached her hands down and carefully cupped them beneath the bag and gently pulled it out of the ground. Then she took a pair of scissors out of her pocket, cut the bag open, and looked inside. And inside, she saw a pair of human feet and a hand. The next morning, Detective Knowles and Sanchez sat at their computers, sifting through recent missing person reports.
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The victim's torso, or any more of his body, still had not been found. But the detectives hoped that the feet and hand that were found also belonged to their victim and that with these new body parts, they might be able to connect their victim to somebody who went missing in the area. Just then, the sound of a fax machine broke their focus.
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Knowles stood up, tore the paper off the machine, and saw that the medical examiner had completed his examination on the severed hand, feet, and head. Knowles scanned the whole report and then read aloud the important parts to Sanchez. The medical examiner had confirmed that all those body parts belonged to the same victim.
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Also, they said that after the victim was dead, his killer carefully cut apart the man's body right at the joints in a very precise manner, so whoever cut the body up seemed to really know what they were doing. But what was even more intriguing was that the body parts had been refrigerated before they were dumped, which explained why the head had looked so fresh when it was found.
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But this made it difficult for the medical examiner to pin down exactly when the victim was killed. However, because the parts were so fresh, the examiner was able to lift very clear fingerprints from the man's fingers. And when he ran those prints through a system, he got a hit. The dismembered man was Hervey Medellin.
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Knowles sat down at his computer and ran Hervey's name through every database he had access to. and he quickly learned that Hervey had been reported missing just a day before his head was found. The missing persons report had been filed by a man named Gabriel Martinez, who said he was Hervey's roommate.
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So Detective Knowles and Sanchez got into their car and began driving towards Hervey's apartment, which happened to be just two blocks away from the Hollywood police station. While they were in the car, Knowles and Sanchez discussed their game plan for when they talked to this roommate. And their plan was simple, reveal nothing.
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Although news of the grisly discovery was already all over town, that victim's identity had not yet been released by the media. Only the police knew that information. And so they wanted to feel out what Herbie's roommate knew and didn't know. He was not a suspect yet, but he was definitely a person of interest. The detectives parked at the curb and walked up to Herbie's building.
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It was this elegantly plain, narrow building constructed in the 1920s that felt totally vintage and old Hollywood. The detectives walked up the stairs to the third floor, to apartment 319, and rang the doorbell. A few seconds later, the door opened and a dark-haired man in his 30s greeted the detectives. They introduced themselves and asked if he was Gabriel Martinez.
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Gabriel said yes and then asked immediately if they had news about Hervey. Had they found him? Was he okay? The detectives exchanged a quick glance and then Sanchez said they were still investigating Hervey's disappearance. And for now, they just needed to speak to Gabriel to try to help with that case.
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Gabriel suddenly went from being sort of hopeful to looking pretty concerned, but then told them he was glad to tell them anything they wanted, and he asked them to come inside. Once inside, they all sat down at the table in the small dining area. Detective Knowles asked Gabriel when he'd last seen Hervey, and Gabriel said, not since shortly after Christmas, on December 27th.
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On Halloween night in 1957, a group of children ran towards a brand new house in a suburban neighborhood just outside of Los Angeles, California. This house had some of the best decorations on the street, and the kids all hoped the house would have the best candy, too.
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The records clerk disappeared into a back room, and a short time later, he returned with a file and handed it to Keeley. And the second Keeley opened that file up and began reading, he knew his instincts had paid off. Peter Fabiano did have a criminal record. About nine years earlier, Peter had been a bookie, which meant he was setting up gambling bets, taking bet money, and paying out winnings.
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This was illegal, and Peter had been caught and convicted on a bookmaking charge. He was sentenced to 180 days in jail, but the sentence was ultimately suspended, and he never served any time. Keeley knew that bookies were often associated with organized crime, and he wondered how deep Peter's ties went. Could he have run afoul of a loan shark or fallen in debt to the wrong people?
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Something like that would definitely support his professional killer theory. Detective Keeley spent the afternoon probing Peter's business records, his finances, his background, hoping to find other investigations and other shady dealings. Anything that might help Keeley build a list of Peter's potential enemies.
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But much to Keeley's surprise, aside from that one scrape with the law being a bookie almost a decade earlier, Peter really did seem to have cleaned up his life. He ran a legitimate business, which his wife helped him operate, and none of Peter's friends that Keeley had talked to could think of anyone who had beef with him.
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However, Keeley had yet to really have a deep conversation with the one person closest to Peter, and that would be Peter's wife, and now widow, Betty. That evening, Betty Fabiano sat in a small room inside the Sun Valley police station.
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After waiting for a few minutes on her own, Detective Keeley walked in, sat down in a chair a few feet away from her, and asked her to take him through the night of Peter's murder again. Betty started recounting everything that had happened that day, starting from when she had finished working at one of the two salons she and Peter owned. Peter, at the time, was working at the other salon.
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Keely listened closely, looking for any inconsistencies between this version of events and the story Betty had told him when he had first come to her house. Keely was not ready to write off the idea that a hired killer had shot Peter, but maybe it wasn't the mob that hired them. Maybe it was the victim's wife.
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But as Betty spoke, Keely didn't catch anything that strayed too far from her original story. Still, that didn't necessarily mean anything. Some people were good at memorizing stories. And so Keely asked Betty to tell him more about her marriage to Peter. Betty explained that she and Peter had been married for about three years.
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She had two kids from a previous marriage, and one of those kids, her daughter Judy, lived with them. Keely asked if she and Peter had any problems in their marriage. Betty paused, then took a deep breath and admitted that, yes, there had been some marital problems.
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She said their marriage had become pretty rocky earlier that year, to the point where they actually had separated for a couple of months. Betty had moved out of the house during that time and went to live with a friend. But in July, she and Peter had reconciled and she had moved back in with him.
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Betty looked away for a minute and was silent, and then she turned back to Keely and said there was someone he should know about, someone who might have had it out for Peter. Keely leaned in and asked her why she hadn't said anything about this person when he talked to her at the house. Betty said she wasn't trying to hide anything.
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She'd been in total shock at the house, and she hadn't been able to think clearly. But now that she was talking about her and Peter's relationship, it seemed obvious, because she believed this person truly hated Peter, maybe enough to want him dead. It was a woman named Joan Rabel who used to work part-time for Peter at one of his salons.
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But Peter had fired Joan because for some reason he just didn't like her. But Betty did. In fact, the two women had quickly hit it off when they first met and had become friends. And this really bothered Peter. In fact, it bothered Peter so much that the friendship between Joan and Betty became a source of tension in their marriage until Peter ultimately forbade his wife to socialize with Joan.
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Betty felt she had a right to choose her friends and was not going to let her husband control her, but Peter was insistent until Betty felt like he was basically giving her an ultimatum. And ultimately, this is the issue that led Betty and Peter to separate for those several months. However, Betty said after a couple of months of separation, she had a change of heart and returned home to Peter.
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And he accepted her back, but under the condition that she never see Joan and never even speak Joan's name around him again. As Keeley listened to the story, he found himself puzzled by it. It sounded like there had to be a piece missing somewhere. And so he asked Betty, why did Peter hate Joan so much? But Betty just sort of shrugged and looked away.
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Keely couldn't tell if Betty was hiding this information because she knew more about Peter's murder than she was saying, or if she was trying to hide something to protect her dead husband or her friend Joan. Finally, Betty broke the silence and just said that Joan had a really strong personality, and Peter also had a strong personality. And sometimes two strong personalities can clash.
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The abolitionist mission isn't done until every prison is empty and shut down.
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If you're listening to this podcast, then chances are good you are a fan of The Strange, Dark, and Mysterious. And if that's the case, then I've got some good news. We just launched a brand new Strange, Dark, and Mysterious podcast called Mr. Ballin's Medical Mysteries. And as the name suggests, it's a show about medical mysteries.
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a genre that many fans have been asking us to dive into for years, and we finally decided to take the plunge, and the show is awesome. In this free weekly show, we explore bizarre unheard of diseases, strange medical mishaps, unexplainable deaths, and everything in between. Each story is totally true and totally terrifying.
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Go follow Mr. Ballin's Medical Mysteries wherever you get your podcasts, and if you're a Prime member, you can listen early and ad-free on Amazon Music. The next morning, two days after Peter's murder, Keeley and his partner decided to pay Joan a surprise visit. They drove to Joan's house in Hollywood on the other side of the hill and knocked on her front door.
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The door swung open and Joan appeared. And as the detectives flashed their badges and said they were there to talk to her about Peter Fabiano, they watched Joan closely to see how she would react, whether she'd be nervous or surprised or something. But Joan just shook her head and looked down. She had already heard the news. How tragic, she said to the investigators.
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Keely agreed and said it was tragic. But also, her name had come up as a potential suspect, so they needed her to accompany them down to the station and answer some questions. Joan, matter-of-factly, just said, okay, and asked them to hold on a minute while she got her coat. And as she did that, the investigators shared a look. Because honestly, this seemed really strange to them.
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In almost every homicide case they had ever worked, when somebody was told they were a potential suspect, they got scared or angry or had some kind of strong reaction. Neither of the cops had ever seen someone act so unaffected by this kind of news. They followed Joan inside the house and kept an eye on her while she grabbed her coat and her purse.
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And she remained totally calm and cooperative when the detectives walked her to their car and drove her back to the valley to police headquarters. As soon as Joan was sitting down inside of the interview room across from Keely and his partner, she began to talk. Joan insisted that she had nothing to do with Peter's murder. She was not a violent person. She hated guns.
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In fact, she had never even touched a gun, not once in her whole life. And as Joan continued to talk, Keely began to notice her calm demeanor slip just a little. She didn't sound angry. She just sounded sort of surprised. She told the detectives she had no idea what they'd heard or who they'd heard it from, but she had no problem whatsoever with Peter Fabiano.
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She considered both Peter and his wife Betty to be two of her closest friends, and she'd only stopped working at the salon because she'd found another job. So, Joan suggested, whoever was pointing the finger at her, the police might want to take a closer look at them. Keely and his partner exchanged another brief glance. What Joan was saying was a complete contradiction to what Betty had said.
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Keely's partner asked Joan if she had an alibi for the night of the murder. She told them she did. She said she had been home all night by herself, but her car had been parked in the front of her house in her driveway, and she was sure one of her neighbors could confirm that.
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After speaking to Joan for a bit longer, Keely had his suspicions, but he had no legal reason to hold Joan, so he gave her a ride back to her house. And after Joan went inside and closed the door behind her, Keely began knocking on her neighbor's doors. And several of them did confirm what Joan told detectives. On the night Peter died, Joan's car never left her driveway.
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And considering that her house was 12 and a half miles away from the Fabiano house, it did seem likely if she was involved somehow in the murder that she would have had to drive there. Keeley returned to the station, went right to his desk, and shook his head in frustration. Less than two days into this investigation, and he felt as though the case was already reaching a dead end.
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Beyond Peter's brief stint as a bookie, nothing had come up that showed he still had ties to organized crime, or that he owed money to anybody. Betty and Joan had told him wildly different stories about Joan's relationship with Peter, so he figured one of them had to be lying. But the lie didn't have to mean they were connected to the murder. The lie could be for some personal reason.
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And at this point, there was no clear evidence pointing to either of the women. Keeley definitely couldn't rule them out, but he also couldn't really pursue either of them unless some new piece of information surfaced. So Keeley picked up his case file and began scouring the dozen or so pages he'd put together so far, looking for anything he might've missed.
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But after an hour of studying the facts of the case, he put down the file and felt no closer to an answer. Keeley's nearly perfect homicide clearance rate, which was a great source of professional pride to him, seemed like it was about to take a hit. Nearly a week after the murder, on November 5, 1957, Peter Fabiano was laid to rest.
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Following the funeral, Detective Keeley continued to interview Peter's friends and family, but these conversations never seemed to get him anything new. Several more weeks passed, and no matter how many times Keeley looked over his case file, he didn't get any closer to figuring out who had murdered Peter.
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And with nothing more to go on and new cases piling up, Detective Keeley and his team turned their attention to other open investigations. The Fabianos' Thanksgiving dinner that year had one fewer face at the table, and while they ate, there was this sense of despair hanging over all of them. Like Keeley, Peter's family started to feel that Peter's case would just never get solved.
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But on a day not long after Thanksgiving, in early December, the telephone rang at the Sun Valley Police Department. A muffled voice on the other end of the line told the dispatcher they had a tip in the Peter Fabiano case.
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The caller said that if investigators went to Bullock's department store in downtown Los Angeles and visited the area with the rented storage lockers, they would find a .38 caliber Smith & Wesson revolver. This was the gun that was used to kill Peter Fabiano. The caller then provided a locker number and then hung up without giving their name.
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The dispatcher took down the information and quickly passed it along to Detective Keeley. Keeley was skeptical that this tip would lead anywhere. Whenever a case was all over the news like this one, he usually got at least one call from somebody just looking for attention. Rarely was a vital piece of information just handed to him. It's never that easy.
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But Keeley was a diligent investigator who followed up on basically every single lead. And so far, the Fabiano case had offered very few. So this was something worth looking into. So, Keeley and his partner drove to downtown Los Angeles, entered the Bullock's department store, and had the locker attendant open up the locker the tipster had indicated.
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And when Keeley looked inside that locker, he couldn't hide his excitement because there inside of it was in fact a .38 caliber Smith & Wesson revolver. Keeley asked the locker attendant whose name the locker had been rented under. The attendant opened a registration book and when she read the name to Keeley, Keeley had never heard of them before.
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Keeley put the revolver into an evidence bag and drove it back to the station. He knew he would need to figure out where the gun came from, who the gun was registered to, and if the gun had ever been reported stolen. He also knew there was a good chance the locker had been rented under a false name, but he hoped the gun would still lead him to Peter's killer.
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so he called the state police and gave them the serial number of this gun. And within minutes, Keeley learned that the gun had been purchased on September 21st of that year, the month before the murder, from a gun shop in Pasadena, about 15 miles away. And the buyer of the gun was the very same person who rented the storage locker where the gun was found.
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This person had not used a fake name to get the gun or the locker, so Keeley could easily track them down, and he was now almost positive this person killed Peter. That evening, after obtaining a warrant, Detective Keeley and his partner arrested the person who had bought the gun and stored it in the locker.
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The detectives brought this person to the station and sat them down in the interrogation room, and as soon as the interview began, this person openly admitted to shooting Peter Fabiano, and they would tell investigators the entire story right from the very beginning all the way up to the aftermath of the killing.
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And once Keeley and his partner had all these details, all the pieces began falling into place. And everything that might have confused Keeley early on, now suddenly made perfect sense. Based on the killer's confession and evidence gathered throughout the investigation, the following is a reconstruction of what police believe happened to Peter Fabiano on the night of October 31st, 1957.
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At around 9 p.m. that night, the killer, wearing face makeup and baggy clothes, sat in a parked car a few houses down from Peter's and just watched and waited. Just after 11 p.m., so after sitting in the parked car for two straight hours, the killer saw the bedroom lights in the Fabiano house go off.
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At this point, the killer slipped a mask over their face and red gloves over their hands, and then climbed out of the car and began walking toward the Fabiano's front door, carrying a brown paper bag with a .38 caliber revolver hidden inside of it.
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The killer rang the doorbell, and as soon as they did, they began to shake, knowing they were about to commit a crime that could land them in the gas chamber. They tried to calm their nerves by reassuring themselves that this was the perfect crime and there was no way they'd get caught.
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They repeated this in their head as they rang the doorbell again and called out, trick or treat, in a loud, booming, unnatural voice. Peter opened the door, looked at the killer in their ill-fitting clothes and paper mask, and laughed. "'It's a little late for this, don't you think?' he asked.
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Just after 5 p.m. on Halloween 1957 in a Los Angeles suburb called Sun Valley, 35-year-old Peter Fabiano turned off the lights at his beauty salon, flipped the sign in a shop window from open to closed, and got into his car to begin the short drive home. Peter turned onto a long residential street and pulled into the driveway of a corner house at the end of the block.
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All the killer could think to say was, no, as Peter looked down into his bucket and began fishing for candy. With Peter's attention distracted for just a moment, the killer began raising the gun, which was still concealed inside the paper bag.
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But as they did, their hands began to tremble violently, so they reached over with their other hand to keep themselves steady and then continued lifting the gun with both hands. And once it was aimed squarely at Peter's chest, they fired a single shot. The bullet blew a hole through the paper bag and slammed into Peter's chest, the round settling just below his heart.
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Peter looked up at the killer in horror and then clutched his chest as he fell to the ground. The killer immediately turned around, cut across the yard, and ran back to the car. When they got into the passenger seat, they were shaking and on the verge of tears. They couldn't believe they had just killed a man. But the killer then felt a hand on their shoulder.
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They turned to the driver's seat and saw the woman they loved had a smile on her face. The woman told the killer they had done everything just right. Then she hit the gas and sped away from the neighborhood. It would turn out Peter Fabiano's killer was a woman named Goldeen Pizer. She was a 42-year-old lab assistant at a children's hospital, and she had no direct connection to Peter Fabiano.
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In fact, she had never met him before the night she killed him. She only knew what Peter looked like because another person had driven her by the Fabiano house a week before Halloween and pointed him out. And this other person was Goldeen's only connection to Peter. And this other person was the actual mastermind behind the murder. And that was Peter's former employee, Joan Rabel.
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It turned out that Joan and Peter's wife Betty had both lied to police about their relationship. Joan and Betty were not just friends, they were lovers. But in 1957, that was not something most people would accept, so Betty and Joan tried to hide it. However, Peter still found out about their relationship and when he did, he was livid.
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He fired Joan from his salon and forbade his wife from ever seeing Joan again. But instead of submitting, Betty left her husband and went to live with Joan. However, after a couple of months with Joan, Betty realized she was better off staying with Peter and broke off her relationship with Joan. Betty moved back in with Peter and agreed to never bring up Joan's name again.
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and it was at this point that Joan began plotting Peter's murder. Jilted and wanting revenge, Joan began a new relationship with the very impressionable Goldeen and immediately began setting her up to become Peter's assassin. Joan spoke endlessly to Goldeen about what an evil and vile person Peter Fabiano was.
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Joan claimed Peter was cruel to his wife and cruel to his wife's children, mistreated his employees, and was essentially a monster who needed to be stopped. Over time, Goldeen grew to despise Peter just through Joan's portrait of him, and that's when Joan began actively putting her plan into motion. Goldeen cared so deeply for Joan, she would have done just about anything for her.
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And so when she walked into that Pasadena gun shop on September 21st, she felt like she was doing a heroic thing. Once the two conspirators had their plan all worked out, they decided Halloween night was the best time to carry it out, because they knew Peter would be more likely to open his door to a stranger after a steady stream of trick-or-treaters had been to his house.
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On the night of the murder, Joan borrowed a friend's car, leaving hers in the driveway to create the alibi, and then went to pick up Goldeen at her house. Joan then drove Goldeen to the Fabianos Street, waited in the car until the deed was done, and drove her back home. at which point Joan told Goldeen to forget they ever knew each other and vanished from her life.
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Peter put the car in park and just sat for a moment. As he stared at the Halloween decorations his wife had hung on the windows, he couldn't help but feel a sense of pride. He couldn't believe this was his house. And to him, his house was sort of a symbol of how dramatically his life had recently changed. Just a few short years earlier, Peter had felt completely lost.
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Once Goldeen realized she'd been used and manipulated by Joan, who didn't actually care about her, the hold that Joan had over her was broken. So when Detective Keeley got the anonymous tip and tracked Goldeen down, she was more than willing to tell him everything. Joan Rabel and Goldeen Pizer were both charged with first-degree murder.
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Both women initially pleaded not guilty, but eventually changed their pleas to guilty to the lesser charge of second-degree murder. Joan and Goldeen received sentences of five years to life in prison. As for Peter's widow, Betty Fabiano, she was never charged with any crime because investigators were satisfied that she had nothing to do with her husband's murder.
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He was living by himself and struggling to make ends meet. And that's when he got mixed up with some bad people who said he could make some money working for them. Even though Peter had agreed to do this, he had known it was not a smart decision, and he was quickly proven right when he ran into trouble with the law.
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One of the kids knocked on the front door, and soon a middle-aged woman in a witch hat, along with her husband, opened up the door and told the kids how great all their costumes looked. The wife gave out a huge handful of candy to each of them, and they all happily said thank you. Candy really was as good as the decorations. The kids, giddy with excitement, ran towards the next house.
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Peter ultimately avoided doing jail time, but this had been a wake-up call for him. After that, he had worked hard to clean up his act and to really start planning for his future. And his hard work eventually paid off. Now he was married and ran a successful business, and he owned a brand new home that had literally just been built. In short, Peter Fabiano was living the American dream.
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And on top of that, he was enjoying the kind of personal freedom that he had personally fought for on the front lines during World War II. Life was good. Peter strolled up his front walkway, between the rows of carved Halloween pumpkins, and stepped inside his house.
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His wife Betty walked up to him, carrying a large bucket full of candy, and as she placed the candy on a table near the door, Peter gave his wife a peck on the cheek. Betty smiled and then quickly turned and walked away. And Peter wondered if maybe Betty's smile was forced and if maybe she was mad about something.
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As happy as Peter was about his job and his new house in the suburbs, he and Betty's marriage had its share of difficulties. In fact, just that summer a few months earlier, things had gotten so tense between them that Betty had moved out for a while. But she had come back and things had really seemed like they were getting better between them.
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And so Peter decided to ask a simple question just to gauge Betty's mood. He said, hey, have any trick-or-treaters come by yet? And to Peter's relief, Betty laughed and told him it was still too early. All the trick-or-treaters were probably still eating dinner.
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Peter relaxed, convinced he'd been reading way too much into his wife's smile, and he started to get excited about handing out candy to a parade of children in funny costumes. In the 1950s in the United States, the act of trick-or-treating had really started to become a popular Halloween tradition for children.
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And the holiday itself was growing into the huge part of American pop culture that it is today. When Peter was a kid, he didn't get to go trick-or-treating. It wasn't really a thing back then. But now, even though he was an adult, he was quite happy to be a part of it, even if his role was just handing out candy.
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Peter's teenage stepdaughter, Judy, came bounding out of her room in full costume, dressed as Alice from Alice in Wonderland. She said she was heading out to a Halloween party and she had a ride there, but she would need a ride home. Peter said no problem, he'd come pick her up, but no later than 10 p.m. because it was a school night.
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Judy huffed and said, fine, before telling him where she'd be and walking out the door. By six o'clock, shortly after Judy had left for her party, the sun was setting and the Fabiano's doorbell rang for the first time that night. Peter and Betty heard a chorus of young voices chanting trick or treat from right outside the door.
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Betty smiled, put on her pointy black witch's hat, grabbed the bucket of candy by its handles, and opened up the door. In front of her stood a little boy in a robot costume, and on either side of him were what Betty assumed were his two big sisters, both dressed as fairies.
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Betty reached into her bucket and grabbed as much candy as her hand could fit, and then dropped the candy into each of the kids' bags. The kids thanked her and ran off. At this point, Peter walked up behind Betty to look outside, and he saw more children approaching. It looked like it was going to be a busy night.
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But none of the kids noticed the person in white makeup, red gloves, and a mask pulled down over half of their face, quietly watching the woman in the witch hat talking to her husband in their doorway. And as that husband and wife walked back inside their house to restock their candy bowl, they had no idea their Halloween was about to turn truly horrifying.
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A little before 11pm that night, after the last of the trick-or-treaters had come by the house and Peter had picked up his stepdaughter Judy from her Halloween party, Peter walked into his bedroom and saw Betty reading in bed. He slipped into his pajamas and yawned.
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He thought about how he and Betty would have to be up at the crack of dawn tomorrow to get Judy to school and also then to open the two salons they ran for a full day of appointments. And so all Peter wanted to do was just collapse and go to sleep. And so Peter slid into bed with Betty, but then put her book down on the nightstand and she turned off the lamp.
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As the couple lay in bed, Peter remarked to Betty that this time of the year was exhausting. Betty agreed. Decorating, hosting, entertaining, these things were hard work. She said now that Halloween was over, they would have to start sending invitations for Thanksgiving.
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And then as soon as Thanksgiving was over, they wouldn't even have time to breathe before they'd have to start decorating for Christmas and planning their big Christmas party. Peter joked that maybe next year they should just board up their house for the holidays and take an extended vacation. Betty started to laugh, but before she could say anything else, their doorbell rang.
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Peter sat up, switched on the lamp, and looked at the clock. It was 11.15 p.m. He turned to Betty and said it seemed really strange that somebody would ring their doorbell so late. Betty thought it might just be a late trick-or-treater, even though more than two hours had passed since the last trick-or-treater had come by. Peter pushed himself out of bed.
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Maybe it was one of the earlier visitors coming back for seconds, he said. If so, it was their lucky night because they still had more than enough candy to last through the new year. Peter put on his robe, stepped into his slippers, and began walking towards the front door. And as he did, the doorbell rang again.
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And this time, Peter heard trick-or-treat from a voice calling out from the other side of the door. And so Peter picked up the bucket of candy on the side table, reached for the doorknob, and pulled the front door open.
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A few minutes later, Sun Valley Police Officer Bud Alper was fast asleep in his bed, two doors down from Peter and Betty's house, when suddenly this violent pounding noise jolted him awake. The pounding persisted as Alper slowly gained his bearings and he realized that somebody was banging on the front door of his house.
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Alper picked up his watch from the nightstand and looked at the time, and when he saw how late it was, he instinctively began reaching for his service revolver. He had no idea what was going on, but someone banging on his door this late definitely couldn't be something good. But just then, he heard the sound of a young woman's voice, tearfully calling his name, pleading with him to open the door.
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Alper opened his front door and through bleary eyes, he saw his teenage neighbor, Judy, the daughter of Betty Fabiano, standing there in her nightgown with tears streaming down her cheeks. Judy begged Alper to help her. Her stepfather had been shot, she said. He was lying on the floor of their house, dying.
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Alper ran out of the house and followed Judy to her front door and stopped just outside the doorway. Alper saw Peter lying motionless on the floor, partially blocking the entrance to the house. Alper quickly stepped over him and darted inside the house, and he saw Betty, Peter's wife, standing frozen in the hallway with her hand over her mouth, looking like she was in shock.
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But before we get into that story, if you're a fan of the Strange, Dark, and Mysterious delivered in story format, then you've come to the right podcast because that's all we do and we upload twice a week, once on Monday and once on Thursday.
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Alper asked where their phone was, and Judy pointed towards the kitchen. Five minutes later, an ambulance pulled up at the Fabiano's house, and paramedics picked Peter up, put him on a stretcher, and sped away to the hospital. Officer Bill Lehman of the Sun Valley Police Department parked his cruiser at the Fabiano house just as the ambulance left, and he walked up to the front door.
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Lehman greeted his fellow officer, Bud Alper, who was standing on the walkway in his pajama robe and lighting a cigarette. Standing near her was Mrs. Fabiano, who was sobbing, and when Officer Lehman approached her, she began to recount what had happened.
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Betty said that shortly after she and her husband had gone to bed, their doorbell had rang, and they both assumed it was just a late trick-or-treater. Betty said she had stayed in bed while Peter had gone to the door. From bed, Betty had heard her husband open the front door and say, it's a little late for this, don't you think? She then heard someone with a strange voice reply, no.
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And a few seconds later, Betty heard a loud pop followed by a thud. As Betty got out of bed and began running to the front of the house, she heard tires screeching and a car speeding away. And there at the foot of the front door, she found her husband lying on the rug, bleeding from a wound in his chest.
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Betty told the officer that, based on the tone of her husband's voice after he opened the door, she was pretty sure that whoever he was talking to at the door was an adult, and she could almost swear that the voice she heard in response to him sounded like a man impersonating a woman. Lehman furrowed his eyebrows as he jotted down this strange detail in his notepad.
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So if that's of interest to you, please hide a tiny speaker in the ceiling of the Follow Buttons home and then play It's a Small World After All on repeat every time they try to fall asleep. Okay, let's get into today's story.
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Was the person at the door using a fake voice because Peter would have recognized them otherwise? And if this was the case, did it mean they were also wearing some sort of costume? It was Halloween after all. Lehman walked back to his cruiser, reached inside of it, and then returned to the front door with a small box. He placed the box over the doorbell and secured it there with some tape.
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That way nobody could touch it before crime scene investigators showed up to dust for prints. Officer Lehman turned to Betty and asked if she knew of anyone who might have wanted to hurt Peter or wanted Peter dead. Betty hesitated just for a second and then shook her head. She said she couldn't think of anybody.
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A short time later, homicide detective Pat Keeley rolled up to the Fabiano house and took over the investigation. Officer Lehman briefed Detective Keeley on the details of what had happened, and then Keeley approached Betty.
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He took off his hat, lowered his head a bit, and said he hated to have to tell her this, but her husband Peter never regained consciousness, and he was pronounced dead upon arrival at the hospital. Betty immediately broke down and began crying, then hugged her daughter.
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Keely stepped away to give the victim's grieving family members some space, and as the crime scene investigators showed up to process the scene, Keely walked across the street to begin his neighborhood canvas. Keely knocked on the door of the Fabianos' adjacent neighbors and asked if they had seen or heard anything suspicious.
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The neighbors told the detective that they had heard a loud pop, maybe about 15 minutes earlier, but aside from that, they hadn't noticed anything out of the ordinary. As the detective scribbled this into his notepad, the neighbor suddenly remembered something. Something he didn't think much of at the time.
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He said a couple of times that evening, when he would look out the window to see if there were any more trick-or-treaters coming, he noticed a car parked in the street that he'd never seen before. It was an older model, dark-colored sedan, and by his count, it had been parked there for maybe at least an hour, but now it was gone.
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The neighbor wished he could provide more information, but he didn't take note of the make or model, and he wasn't able to offer a description of anybody in the car. Keeley continued canvassing the neighborhood, but none of the other people on the block saw or heard anything unusual.
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So he returned to the Fabiano house, hoping that the crime scene investigators had found something useful that might help him close this case quickly. but the news from the other investigators was equally disappointing. There were no fingerprints on the doorbell and no shell casings at the scene. In fact, they hadn't uncovered anything at all, not a single piece of evidence.
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This crime scene was totally clean. A little later that night, Keeley returned to his desk in the homicide department to begin writing up the report. the 46-year-old veteran took a deep breath and exhaled in a long sigh.
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He knew he was in for a long night, and he was at an age where he was beginning to wonder if his 95% homicide clearance rate was worth the toll these long nights must be taking on his health. Keeley finished writing up the report and then began looking over what he'd written. He kept thinking how unusual it was that the killers took advantage of Halloween and used trick-or-treating as a ruse.
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He'd never heard of this happening before, except maybe in a radio play he once listened to. And the crime scene was so spotless, the killers were very careful to not leave anything behind. This suggested a level of planning and organization rarely seen in random killings and robberies. This had all the markings of a professional hit.
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The day after the murder, Detective Keeley drove down to the Hall of Justice and made his way to the Records Division. He wanted to find out if Peter had any sort of criminal background or maybe a connection to the mob that might have led a professional hitman to show up at his door and kill him. Keeley asked the records clerk for anything he could dig up on a Peter R. Fabiano.
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On a night in 2013, a woman in her 30s named Erin heard loud banging on her front door. She opened it up and saw her best friend Robin standing there, and she could tell right away that Robin was terrified. She was shaking, tears were running down her face, and she had scratches all over her arms. Erin led Robin inside to the couch and asked her what was going on.
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An affair, a divorce, and a potential custody battle could all be motives for murder. And while Mongold did not believe that all military vets suffering from PTSD were inherently violent, J.D. 's condition was still something he had to consider. But Aaron would tell Mongold something else that would instantly make him rethink his entire approach to J.D. and Katie.
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Erin said late last year, Robin had gone over to JD and Katie's house to drop off the kids. However, when Katie had come in and seen her husband and Robin talking, she screamed, grabbed Robin, slammed her into the fireplace, and threatened to ruin her life. That evening, Sergeant Mongold led JD into an interview room at the sheriff's station.
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And then he sat down next to him at a small round table that was pushed up against the wall. JD was wearing a t-shirt, jeans, and a baseball cap that he kept messing with like he was nervous. Mongold had spent most of the previous night trying to learn as much as possible about Robin, JD, and Katie's relationship.
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And he had worked with the phone company to secure a copy of text messages sent to and from Robin's cell phone. Mongold started the interview by asking JD to give him an overview of what he'd been doing on the night Robin died. J.D. spoke in a slow Texas draw. He was polite and addressed Mongold as sir, and he said basically the same thing he'd told Mongold when they met at the house.
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He'd been hanging out with his uncle at home, drinking and shooting pool. Mongold nodded and asked if he'd seen Robin at all on that day, but J.D. shook his head and said he had not seen or talked to her. Sergeant Mongold reached down and grabbed a file folder out of a briefcase. He opened the folder and pulled out a piece of paper.
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Then he turned to JD and said he wanted to help him because clearly JD was having trouble remembering things clearly. Mongold told JD that this piece of paper was a record of all the text messages Robin had sent and received on the night she died. And her final text exchange was with JD just before 9.30pm.
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And it was clear from this text that the two of them had been planning to meet up that night. JD immediately took off his hat and ran his hand through his hair. He apologized for lying and then as he tried to explain himself, he started to stammer.
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Finally, he got out that Robin was supposed to meet him that night at his house to talk about a standardized test their older daughter was supposed to take. However, JD said Robin never showed up. At this point, Mongold really began to press JD. He asked him if Robin had never showed up, why hadn't he reached out to her? and JD really struggled to come up with an answer.
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He remained polite and kept calling Mongold, sir, but as he was doing that, Mongold got the impression that this was not a man who planned things out or who could easily organize his thoughts. And so eventually, Mongold told JD that he could assume only one of two things. JD had lied because he was the one who murdered Robin or he had lied to cover for someone else.
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JD just shook his head and said he would never hurt Robin. But Mongold snapped back and said, well, if you didn't kill her, who did? JD went quiet for a second, and then he looked up at Mongold and just said, I have suspicions. Now, during this interview, JD did not come out and actually say who he suspected, but Mongold thought it was pretty clear.
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In fact, Mongold had the same suspicion since he talked to Robin's friend Aaron. So Mongold didn't waste any time. He let J.D. go and then had J.D. 's wife, Katie, brought to the station and into the same small interview room. Katie was wearing a sweatshirt with a pink camouflage pattern on it.
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And while her husband, J.D., had looked very nervous when he came in, Katie, on the other hand, just looked mad. But before Sergeant Mongold could even ask her a question, she said she needed him, Mongold, to tell her something. She said she needed to know if JD was having an affair with his ex-wife, Robin.
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Mongold said he didn't know if that was the case, but he did know that JD and Robin had planned to see each other on the night that Robin died. After hearing this, Katie broke down sobbing and put her face in her hands. She said she knew it. She knew Robin had been trying to tear her marriage apart because Robin had never gotten over JD after the divorce.
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But despite all the obvious anger Katie felt towards Robin, she insisted that she had nothing to do with Robin's murder. However, despite what Katie and J.D. said during their interviews, Sergeant Mongold still decided to secure search warrants for their house and their cell phones, and he felt sure he would soon be able to arrest one or both of them.
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On the night of April 7th, 2014, 32-year-old Robin Spielbauer tucked her 10-year-old daughter into bed in their house in Amarillo, Texas. Robin told her daughter that she loved her, said goodnight, and then walked out of the room. Robin could hear the TV on in the front room of the house, and she began heading that way, but before she got there, she stopped to look in on her younger daughter.
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Mongold didn't think that was strange, though. Amarillo, Texas was home to a lot of avid hunters, and most of the weapons in this room were hunting rifles. But one gun immediately caught the detective's eye. Sitting in an open case was a Sig Sauer .22 caliber pistol. Now, Robin had been shot with a .22, but that was not actually the only thing that made this gun stand out.
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This gun had hot pink plastic accents on part of the grip and the barrel. And when Mongold leaned down to get a better look, he noticed that part of the pink plastic on the grip was cracked and that small pieces of the plastic appeared to be missing.
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And so right away, Mongold assumed that those small pieces of pink plastic that were missing must have wound up embedded in the back windshield of Robin's SUV. Investigators quickly found out that the gun was registered to Katie and they even found photos she had posted on social media of her holding that gun.
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And later that day, when police searched Katie's text messages, they found something just as damning. In the four days leading up to the murder, Katie had sent 336 text messages to J.D., threatening to ruin him and Robin. And the final text message, number 336, which Katie had sent to J.D.
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about an hour before Robin had left her parents' house and driven out to Helium Road, said, You started this whether you want to believe it or not. I will finish it. The Randall County Sheriff's Department and the District Attorney's Office moved fast. On April 11th, four days after Robin's murder, they arrested Katie.
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However, before the case could go to trial, the DA wanted either a confession or clear evidence that demonstrated Katie had been driving on Helium Road on the night of the murder. Katie refused to confess. She just repeated her story that she had been with her son at a friend's house and then gone home at around 10 p.m. that night.
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Now, Katie's cell phone had pinged off a tower near the murder site at the time Robin was most likely killed, but that tower also would have pinged if she was driving from her friend's house to her house, so it was not the definitive evidence the DA was looking for. The search for some elusive piece of evidence that would ensure a guilty verdict began to frustrate the police.
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After all, Sergeant Mongold and his team had Katie's gun and her threatening text messages to JD, and they knew Katie had once slammed Robin into a fireplace. But Mongold and his team's hands were tied because the DA's office had taken over the investigation.
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The DA's office wound up re-interviewing people connected to the case and also scouring surveillance footage from locations just outside of town to see if they could spot Katie's car pulling onto Helium Road. But none of this led to anything new, and the investigation dragged on for months.
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And so the DA began to worry that he would never find this piece of evidence that would definitively win over a jury. But on a day in July of 2015, over 15 months after Robin's murder, a woman who worked for the DA rushed into his office and she had a very excited look on her face.
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She told the DA that she'd seen a story on the news about how certain cell phones left a clear digital footprint when they were connected to Wi-Fi. Essentially, police could use this Wi-Fi data to track exactly where a phone had been, which was far more information than a cell phone tower could provide. When the DA heard this, his face lit up. He'd never heard about this type of search.
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Robin peeked into her bedroom and saw the little girl was already fast asleep. And as soon as she saw this, Robin just felt this complete sense of calm come over her. As a single mother with two young kids, Robin's days could get busy and chaotic. But she was finally able to relax each night when she knew her daughters were safe and sound in their beds like they were right now.
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So he gathered his team and they immediately got in contact with the phone and internet companies. And soon they were able to trace Katie's exact path on the night of the murder. This was exactly the kind of evidence the DA had been looking for. And not long after that, the DA got another big break when he was contacted by Robin Spielbauer's mom.
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She told him that she had just gotten this very bizarre phone call that she knew would help his investigation. And the information Robin's mom provided, along with the newly collected Wi-Fi data, finally solidified the case.
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Based on the information from Robin's mom, cell phone and Wi-Fi data, and evidence collected throughout the investigation, the following is a reconstruction of what authorities believed happened to Robin Spielbauer on April 7, 2014. That night, the killer drove their truck through town, trailing just far enough behind Robin so as not to be spotted.
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The city lights slowly disappeared behind them as the killer followed Robin out onto a dark dirt road. And after a few more minutes of driving, the killer saw Robin pull over and park. And so the killer slowed down as well and parked right behind her.
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Once they were stopped, the killer put on a pair of gloves, grabbed a gun from the passenger seat, and then stepped outside, leaving their headlights on. The killer calmly walked towards the SUV, raised their gun and slammed it against Robin's back windshield. The windshield cracked and the killer heard Robin begin to scream from inside the vehicle.
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The driver's side door of the SUV suddenly flew open and Robin lunged out of the car and started screaming at the killer. But the killer just raised their gun. Robin saw the gun in the headlights from the truck and she ran towards the farmland that surrounded the road trying to get away. But the killer followed and they aimed at Robin in the low light and they fired.
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The bullet struck Robin in the back of the head. She stumbled, her body twisted, and she fell to the ground on her back. The killer approached and saw Robin was still breathing. So they aimed the gun at her forehead and pulled the trigger again. But the gun jammed. The killer panicked.
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They rushed back to their truck, glancing over their shoulder to make sure Robin was not getting up and running off. The killer found a tire iron from the truck bed, took it, and ran back to the side of the road where Robin was still laying on the ground. The killer held up the tire iron and swung it hard into the side of Robin's head. Blood spilled from Robin's temple out onto the ground.
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Now she stopped breathing, and she died right there on the side of the road. The killer leaned down and took Robin's cell phone out of her pocket. They searched her other pocket for personal items, but she didn't have anything else on her. So the killer walked over to her SUV, leaned inside through the open driver's side door, and grabbed Robin's purse.
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And then with that in hand, they shut the door behind them. The killer ran back to their truck, hopped in the driver's seat, and sped off down the dirt road back towards their house in town.
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Once back inside the safety of their home, the killer walked right into their gun room, and they would put the gun they had just used to shoot Robin, a Sig Sauer .22 caliber pistol with a pink plastic grip, into an open gun case. At this point, the killer took a deep breath and began to calm down.
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Robin left the bedroom and walked down the hall into the front room of the house where she found her mom and dad watching TV. Robin took a seat on the couch with her parents, grabbed her phone out of her jeans pocket, and quickly sent a text message. Robin's mom looked over and asked her daughter if everything was okay. She was fine, just making some plans.
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They were convinced the police would eventually find this pink gun, and when they did, they would believe Katie had murdered Robin. Katie Phipps would stay in prison for over a year awaiting trial while the DA's office tried to find evidence that would ensure her conviction in court. But Katie didn't murder Robin. Her husband, JD, did.
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It would turn out that Katie's suspicions about JD and Robin had been correct. JD, who had cheated on Robin with Katie, had now begun cheating on Katie with Robin. But J.D. knew Katie had caught on, and the whole thing had now turned into a total mess. He wanted both women out of his life, so he murdered his ex-wife and framed his current wife for the crime.
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On the night of the murder, the way J.D. had lured Robin to Helium Road was he had been texting back and forth with her to set up a meeting on that secluded road. That way they could carry on their affair without being seen. Police had considered JD a suspect, but the bulk of the evidence they found seemed to point to his wife, Katie.
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She had sent hundreds of threatening text messages, had physically assaulted Robin, and had claimed she was going to, quote, finish what JD had inadvertently started. And when tests were run on Katie's gun, the pink plastic from the weapon matched the pink plastic police had found embedded in Robin's back windshield. And so after only a four-day investigation, police had arrested and jailed Katie.
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But over a year later, as investigators and the DA tried to shore up their case before going to court, new evidence came to light. Katie's phone had not been connected to Wi-Fi on the night of her murder. However, her son's phone had.
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And so using the wifi data from her son's phone in connection with cell phone tower from Katie's phone, police were able to see that on the night of the murder, Katie's route was directly from her friend's house back to her own house. At that point, they realized Katie had been telling the truth. She did not kill Robin.
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Also, investigators came to believe that many of Katie's threatening text messages to JD might've been about divorcing him and exposing his affair, not about harming Robin. So with this new evidence, police released Katie from jail and the DA admitted he had rushed to judgment about her guilt. Once Katie was out, investigators quickly turned their attention to JD.
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And one of the first things they discovered was that JD's stories about suffering from PTSD were a complete lie because JD had never served in the military. It was just something he lied about to impress women. And so the fact he had successfully carried out this lie for years and had even convinced police it was true helped lead the investigators to believe that J.D.
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Robin knew her parents loved having her and the two girls in the house, and they played a huge part in helping her take care of the kids. But Robin thought in a perfect world, she would not be living with her parents in her early 30s. Because for many years before she wound up back at her parents' house, Robin had been living a life she loved on her own.
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was much craftier than they had given him credit for. They came to assume that everything he'd told them during the investigation was potentially a lie and that he had the personality and the mental capacity to frame someone else for murder. And then finally, when investigators really began to move in on JD, Robin's mom contacted the DA about this bizarre phone call she got.
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She said that JD had called her and asked her to lend him a significant amount of money so that he could take his daughters on a trip to New York ASAP. With everything else investigators had learned, they saw this as a huge red flag. They believed the reason JD was trying to go to New York was actually just to make a run for the Canadian border. So they arrested J.D.
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before he could leave town and they charged him with the murder of his ex-wife Robin. J.D. was found guilty of murder and sentenced to life in prison. He'll have a chance for parole in 2046. Despite the conviction, some members of the Sheriff's Department continued to believe that Katie had played a role in this crime.
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When she was 22, she had fallen in love with a great guy named J.D. Spielbauer. J.D. was a former United States Marine and had served in Afghanistan and Iraq. Robin's father had been in the military most of his life, and so her parents had been really happy when Robin started dating a military veteran. Robin got pregnant just two months after they started dating, and so she and J.D.
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had their first daughter, then got married, and then they had their second daughter a few years later. And for Robin, ever since she was young, all she had wanted was to be a mom. And so she didn't really care that she and JD struggled with money sometimes or that raising kids really wasn't always easy. She and her husband loved each other and they had these two beautiful girls.
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That was more than enough to be grateful for. But in 2012, after she and JD had been together for almost 10 years, everything began to change. JD became distant and he started spending a lot of time away from home. And not long after that, Robin had discovered that J.D. was cheating on her with a woman named Katie Phipps, who just happened to be one of Robin's friends from church.
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After Robin had learned that her husband and friend were having this affair, she divorced J.D., took the kids, and moved back in with her parents. And not long after that, J.D. had married Katie Phipps, which really only added to the tension. Back on the couch, Robin's phone buzzed in her hand. She glanced down at the text, smiled, and got up.
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Robin told her that she had just been over at her ex-husband's house to drop off their two daughters and everything seemed to be fine, but then her ex-husband's new wife came into the room and had just started yelling at her. And before Robin could even say anything, this woman ran across the room and attacked her.
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She told her parents she would have to run out for a bit and asked if they could watch the kids while she was gone. Her mom said of course, and then asked if Robin was going out to meet her new boyfriend. Robin blushed a little, but didn't respond. Then she just grabbed her purse, told her parents she wouldn't be gone too long, and walked out the front door.
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A few minutes later, at about 9.30 p.m., Robin drove her black Chevy Tahoe out of town and turned onto Helium Road, which was a long, winding dirt road surrounded by farmland on both sides. As she drove, Robin cranked up the country music on the radio and looked out at the huge Texas night sky.
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The only light on the road came from her headlights and the moon, and this made Robin feel like she was out in the middle of nowhere. But that was perfect as far as she was concerned. In fact, that's why she'd chosen Helium Road for this meeting in the first place. She didn't want anyone to see what she was about to do.
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Eventually, Robin pulled her SUV over to the side of the road, put it in park, and began to wait. And as she did, she listened to the radio and looked out the window. And then eventually, she saw headlights coming down the road behind her. The following day at noon, almost 15 hours after Robin had left her house, a middle-aged man drove his truck down Helium Road.
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The sun was bright, and it was about 65 degrees Fahrenheit. It looked and felt like a perfect spring day. As the man was driving, he spotted something in the distance, so he slowed down and squinted. And he was surprised by what he saw. Three young girls were running down the road right towards him, and they were screaming.
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This part of Helium Road was usually pretty deserted and it wasn't really a place where kids played. So the man immediately hit his brakes, put his truck in park and stepped outside to see what was going on. He walked over to the girls and asked if they were okay. And without breaking their stride, all three girls pointed behind them and started yelling, she's dead, she's dead.
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The man looked where the girls were pointing and he saw there was a black SUV parked on the side of the road. He told the girls to stay where they were and then he ran over to the SUV. And when he got there, at first glance, it just looked like somebody had abandoned the vehicle. However, when he walked to the passenger side of the SUV and looked at the ground, he just froze.
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The man was in total shock at what he saw, and it horrified him that three young kids were clearly the first ones to have stumbled onto the scene. The man took a breath and steadied himself, then he grabbed his phone and dialed 911. A little later that afternoon, Sergeant Alan Mongold of the Randall County Sheriff's Department sped down Helium Road.
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Robin said her ex-husband had managed to pull them apart, at which point she had grabbed the kids and left. As Erin sat there listening to this wild story, she actually was not surprised, because she knew the woman Robin had been fighting with.
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Up ahead, he saw there was an ambulance, cop cars, and a fire truck, and then behind him, driving as well, were more police cars. Sergeant Mongold could not think of a time ever when this spot on Helium Road, basically in the middle of all this farmland, had been so crowded. He eventually pulled over and parked his car not far from a black SUV and got out.
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And immediately, an officer ran over to meet him and said he'd taken statements from the three young girls and the man who had been there when he arrived, but he'd arranged for the girls to be taken home and he'd sent that man on his way. Mongold said that was fine, he would follow up with them if he needed to.
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And then he and the other officer walked around to the passenger side of this black SUV and they joined a group of paramedics who were already standing there. But as soon as Mongold looked at the ground just outside the car, it was clear the paramedics could not do anything. Because lying there on the ground was a woman's body.
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And based on all the bugs crawling on her, Mongold knew she must have been dead for at least several hours. Mongold put on his gloves and crouched down next to the body. The woman was on her back, and immediately Mongold saw a deep, dark bruise on the left side of her head. And at first glance, this bruise did not appear to be something she got just from falling down or something.
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It looked like something had been smashed into the side of her head, like a heavy object. And so at this point, Mongold felt confident he was very likely dealing with a murder. He reached into the woman's pockets but found they were empty. So he told one of the officers on hand to run the plates of the SUV. And then he and the others started to do a sweep of the area.
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Within minutes, Mongold saw the officer who had just run the plates waving him over. Mongold joined him and the officer said that the SUV was registered to a woman whose name was Robin Spielbauer. And the image of Robin Spielbauer that popped up matched the victim.
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Pretty soon, members of the county's forensics team arrived, and Sergeant Mongold searched the area around Robin's body and her SUV again. And this time, a forensic tech saw something that seemed really strange. The back windshield of Robin's SUV had a small crack in it, and embedded in the crack were tiny pieces of hot pink plastic.
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And when Robin was finished talking, Erin told her to never be alone with that woman again, because Erin said that woman was the kind of crazy that will kill you.
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Now, neither the forensics tech nor Sergeant Mongold had any idea what this pink plastic was from. But the tech said hopefully that would become clear after they ran some tests. The investigative team spent hours searching up and down Helium Road, hoping to find a potential murder weapon or maybe Robin's cell phone.
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But other than those pink plastic flecks on the SUV windshield, there really wasn't much to go on. Mongold considered the possibility that this could have been a robbery gone wrong, that someone had gotten Robin to stop her car, attacked her, and had stolen her purse and her phone.
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But the idea that a carjacker would choose this road to try to rob someone where there wasn't a whole lot of traffic just didn't make a lot of sense to him. And so Mongold couldn't help but think that maybe Robin's killer was someone she knew. The following morning, April 9th, Sergeant Mongold sat at his desk reviewing the autopsy report.
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the report stated that Robin had most likely died the night before her body was found, and that her body had just laid outdoors on the side of the road overnight. And even more importantly, the autopsy report confirmed that Robin had been murdered.
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Because in addition to the blunt force trauma wound that Mongolt had found on the side of her head, the medical examiner had also discovered a gunshot wound from a .22 caliber pistol in the back of Robin's head. So that morning, Sergeant Mongold went to meet with Robin's friends and family to learn as much as he could about her, and also to see if anyone close to Robin owned a .22.
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But before we get into that story, if you're a fan of the Strange, Dark, and Mysterious delivered in story format, then you've come to the right podcast because that's all we do and we upload twice a week, once on Monday and once on Thursday.
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Mongold had informed Robin's parents about the death of their daughter the previous night, and even without the results of the autopsy report, he had told them he believed there had been foul play. And so through their complete shock and grief, Robin's parents had given Mongold a list of the few people who had been closest to Robin.
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And now, Mongold decided to start with her new boyfriend, a bartender named Jared. But the conversation with Jared proved to be pretty uneventful. Jared said he'd been working at the bar the night that Robin had died. He said she hadn't called him or texted him or anything. And Mongold was able to quickly track down multiple people at the bar who corroborated Jared's alibi.
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Now, the detective had no intention of crossing Jared off his list this early on, but Jared did not jump out as an obvious suspect. And so Mongold figured if Robin's current boyfriend didn't look like a major suspect, well, the next logical step was to talk to her ex-husband, J.D. Spielbauer.
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Later that day, now over 24 hours after Robin's body had been found, Sergeant Mongold knocked on the front door of J.D. 's house. And as he knocked, Mongold felt a bit surprised by where he was standing, because J.D. lived only a few houses away from Robin's parents' house.
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The door opened, and a woman who looked like she was in her late 20s with long brown hair and bright blue eyes was standing there. Mongold introduced himself, and the woman said her name was Katie, and that she was JD's wife. She said news had traveled fast, so she already knew about the murder, and she assumed that's why Mongold was here, to talk about it.
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Mongold nodded, but before he could say much more, a tall, thin man with a cropped, military-style haircut stepped outside. He introduced himself as JD Spielbauer, But immediately, his wife, Katie, snapped at him and told him to shut up because she was talking to the police. JD immediately hung his head and fell silent.
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So if that's of interest to you, the next time the follow button orders delivery, wait until their food is sitting on their porch and then run up and steal it. Okay, let's get into today's story.
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Sergeant Mongold acted like he didn't notice any of that, but in reality, he was taken aback. Married couples, even ones that didn't necessarily get along, rarely lashed out at each other in front of him, especially when they knew they could be potential suspects in a murder case. But Mongold remained calm and polite and asked them where they'd been the night that Robin died.
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Katie said that she and her son had been at a friend's house and they had come home around 10 p.m. J.D. said he'd been home all night with his uncle, who also lived in the house. They'd just been drinking beer and playing some pool. Other than Katie's quick outburst at JD, nothing the couple did after that seemed particularly strange.
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However, for some reason, Mongol just felt like there was a good chance both of these people were lying to his face. He talked to them for a bit longer, and then as they wrapped up, he told them he would be in touch if he needed any more information. But as he walked back to his car, Mongold already knew he'd be calling JD and Katie down to the station soon.
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He just needed to be better prepared if he was really going to interview them. After leaving JD and Katie's house, Mongold drove a few minutes across town to Robin's best friend Aaron's house. Robin's parents had told Mongold that Robin and Aaron were extremely close and shared basically everything with each other.
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So, Mongold thought she'd be a great person to talk to to learn more about Robin, but also, he figured if anybody had inside information on Robin's ex-husband and his new wife, it might be Aaron. And as it would turn out, Aaron knew a whole lot about Robin's ex and his new wife. She told him that at one point she, Robin, JD and Katie had all been friends.
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But then JD and Katie had an affair and things got ugly. She said Robin constantly worried about the kids and wondered if she and JD should really be trying to co-parent them. Erin also said that JD talked a lot about suffering from PTSD because of his time in combat as a Marine. Mongold took notes on everything Aaron was telling him.
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Hey Prime members, you can binge eight new episodes of the Mr. Ballin podcast one month early and all episodes ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today. On a night in March of 2017, a huge bonfire lit up the yard at a house party in Youngstown, Ohio. A group of friends in their 20s and 30s sat around the fire, drinking beer, talking, and having a great time.
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Lambert had learned from Debbie when they first met that Shannon's favorite color was pink and that she loved wearing pink clothes. He couldn't just ignore saw blades and a rope being found out in the middle of nowhere next to a pink sock. So the detective told Debbie that he and his team would look into it right away.
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But as Lambert headed out to this bridge, he started to feel like this case was getting away from him. He was already dealing with the missing woman's ex-boyfriend conducting his own investigation, and now he was following up on a lead that apparently came from a psychic medium. And Lambert still had no idea what had happened to Shannon.
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She really could just be in Cleveland or anywhere else, purposefully avoiding her friends and family. Or she could be the victim of a horrible crime. One way or the other, Lambert needed some piece of concrete evidence to point him in the right direction. And while he didn't want to rule anything out, he doubted that that piece of evidence was going to come from a psychic vision.
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Then Shannon glanced over at Arturo, but he still looked annoyed. Shannon sighed, trying her best to keep her cool. It was not that long ago that sitting on the couch with Arturo would have made for a relaxing evening at home. But now, every time the two were around each other, they just seemed to argue about everything, even meaningless stuff like what to watch on TV.
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About a month later, on the afternoon of July 29th, a woman was making Italian food at her house in a small town just a few miles from Youngstown. As she cooked, she looked down at the food she was making and suddenly she got mad at herself. She realized she didn't have enough meat to make the meatballs she was planning to serve with this meal.
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She thought about taking a quick trip to the grocery store, but then she remembered something. So she called out to her husband in the next room and told him to keep an eye on the stove. She left the kitchen and walked down a set of old wooden steps into the basement.
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He passed by their washer and dryer and walked over to a white, rectangle-shaped chest freezer that was standing up against the wall. Now, this woman knew there was meat inside this freezer and she could use it to make her meatballs. But there was a problem. The freezer had a padlock on it. But the woman was undeterred.
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She grabbed a nearby screwdriver off a work table and used it to pry the entire metal latch that the lock was connected to off the freezer. And so now with the freezer unlocked, the woman opened it up and immediately she began to scream.
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At about 5.30 that afternoon, two hours after that woman had looked inside the freezer, crime scene investigator Tony Marzullo walked down the stairs into the married couple's basement. Marzullo worked out of Youngstown, but he helped in the surrounding smaller towns when he was needed.
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And today, he'd gotten one of the strangest calls he'd ever received from police dispatch in one of those smaller towns. Marzullo put on his gloves and approached the freezer. The freezer door was still open and he could see inside of the freezer was an orange plastic bucket with trash bags sticking out of it. Marzullo got closer and leaned over the freezer and looked inside of that bucket.
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And the instant he did, he reflexively put his hand over his mouth and tried to collect himself. Even the call from dispatch had not prepared him for this. Because in the bucket, Marzullo was looking at the top half of a frozen severed human head. Marzullo looked down deeper into the freezer, and he saw the entire thing was basically filled with trash bags.
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And as he pulled out each of these bags and looked inside of them, he found human legs, human arms, and human hands. Marzullo had no idea who the victim was, but instinctively, he grabbed his phone and called Detective Lambert. Later that evening, Detective Lambert stood in the basement with Marzullo and a group of police officers and forensic technicians.
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Like Lambert had expected, the psychic vision and the objects found at that bridge had not given him any new leads in Shannon's case, and neither had any of the interviews Lambert had conducted to this point. Basically, the case had stalled. He had no idea where Shannon was or what happened to her.
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But now, as he stood over the freezer, he had a sinking feeling that the body he was looking at could be hers. Now, they would need to run some tests to officially identify the body, but Marzullo was very confident they could do that quickly. Forensic techs would allow the severed hands they'd found to defrost.
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Then they would use a saline solution to rehydrate the fingers on those hands, which would allow them to pull clean fingerprints. While Lambert waited for those results, he interviewed the married couple who lived at the house to try to figure out how a dismembered body had wound up in their basement. The couple proved to be extremely cooperative. They said that freezer was not theirs.
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Shannon put the remote down and then leaned back on the couch and didn't say anything. She hoped that maybe if she just sat there in silence, they could avoid a fight. But in reality, Shannon knew that this TV show she chose or whatever little thing they ended up arguing about next was actually just a symptom of a much bigger problem. Her and Arturo's relationship was clearly falling apart.
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A friend had asked to store it in their house because the electricity in his house had been cut off, and he didn't want the meat in the freezer to go bad.
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When their friend had brought it over, they did think it was odd that the freezer had a padlock on it, but they'd assumed the freezer door just didn't stay shut on its own, so their friend must have locked it just to make sure the meat inside stayed frozen. The woman went on to tell Lambert that the only reason she had broken into the freezer is because she really wanted to make meatballs.
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Lambert thought the story was definitely strange, but none of it sounded untrue. So he asked who was this friend who gave them the freezer. They said his name was Anthony Gonzalez, but he was trying to become a hip-hop star, so sometimes he went by the name Tony G.
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That night, Lambert began his search for Anthony Gonzalez, aka Tony G. But despite it seeming like a pretty common name, he could not find a single Anthony Gonzalez living in Youngstown. And before Lambert could expand his search for Anthony to nearby towns, he got a call from Marzullo.
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Marzullo told him the lab had successfully pulled fingerprints from the now-defrosted hands they'd found, and they were able to officially identify the victim. Body in the freezer was Shannon Graves. Now that police had finally found Shannon's body and this had become a homicide investigation, news of the grisly discovery in the basement spread across Youngstown.
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And in the days following the discovery, Detective Lambert got an unexpected visitor at the station. Shannon's ex-boyfriend, John, had returned. John had heard about Shannon's body, and he admitted right off the bat to Detective Lambert that despite what he'd promised him, he said he had not actually given up his own investigation into Shannon's case.
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And in fact, now, he had discovered something huge. John heard from a friend of his about a house party that had taken place a few months earlier. And at this house party, a man named Andrew Herman had been burning some of Shannon's stuff in a huge bonfire. With help from John, Detective Lambert and several other investigators found their way to the house where this party had taken place.
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And as soon as they got out of their cars, they could see the remnants of a bonfire in the front yard. There was a big pit filled with ashes and big pieces of wood around it that looked like they'd been used for seating. Lambert and a crime scene investigator walked across the dying grass in the front yard. They put on their gloves and began sifting through the large pile of ashes.
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And they found what looked like charred clothing and some burned pieces of plastic. But to their utter shock, it looked like one object had survived the fire and remained almost perfectly preserved. And as Lambert bent down and pulled this object out of the ashes, he almost couldn't believe it. Because of all the possible things he could have found, this was like the perfect clue.
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The object was a friendship bracelet with small plastic beads strung on it that spelled out Shannon. There was no doubt that John had been right. Somebody had been burning Shannon's things. Investigators headed back to the station with this new piece of evidence and Lambert set up a meeting with Andrew Herman, the man John said had been burning Shannon's things.
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But John warned Lambert to watch out because Andrew was a total psychopath, a guy who was into black magic and who worshiped the serial killer cannibal, Jeffrey Dahmer. On August 7th, 2017, so about a week and a half after the discovery of Shannon's body, Detective Lambert led Andrew into an interview room. And Lambert had to admit that Andrew was not anything like what he'd expected.
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The two of them met almost a year earlier at the club where Shannon had been working nights as a dancer while she went to classes during the day to earn her cosmetology degree. And despite their obvious differences, at first they had gotten along great. Shannon was outgoing and always seemed to be on the move, while Arturo was quiet and more reserved.
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Andrew wore a well-fitted suit and tie, and his hair was short and neatly combed. He looked way more like a guy who worked at a bank than somebody who was into black magic and serial killers. But Lambert knew the way this guy was dressing didn't prove anything one way or another.
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Detective Lambert told Andrew right away that they had gone to the site of the house party and discovered a friendship bracelet inside of a fire pit that they were sure belonged to Shannon Graves, and that they'd heard Andrew was the one trying to burn it. Andrew nodded and said, yep, the bracelet was Shannon's, and he was trying to burn it.
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And he also admitted that he and a couple other people had also burned some of Shannon's other things at that party. Lambert just looked at him and said it seemed very suspicious that they had burned the belongings of a woman who'd recently been found brutally murdered. But Andrew did not flinch. In a perfectly calm voice, he said they had burned the stuff as a favor for a friend, Anthony Gonzalez.
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Now, Detective Lambert did not react to what he was hearing, but inside, after hearing that name, he felt like he was about to lock up this investigation. Because he was now able to connect Anthony, aka Tony G, the man who'd brought the freezer to the married couple's basement, directly to the bonfire that had been used to get rid of Shannon's personal belongings.
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So Lambert asked why his friend, Anthony, had wanted to burn Shannon's stuff in the first place. Andrew sat there in silence for a minute, and then he began to speak. And when he did, without ever losing his cool, he told a story that was even gorier and more disturbing than any story Detective Lambert had ever heard in his life.
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And by the time Andrew stopped telling this story, Lambert knew exactly what had happened to Shannon Graves. Based on information from Andrew, evidence found in the basement freezer, and interviews conducted throughout the investigation, the following is a reconstruction of what police believe happened to Shannon on February 24, 2017 and the following days.
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The killer walked through Shannon's apartment, breathing heavily and clutching a hammer in their hand. They could hear the shower running, so they headed for the bathroom. Once there, they opened the door and stepped inside.
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Shannon shouted something and pulled back the shower curtain, but before she could even figure out what was happening, the killer raised the hammer and slammed it into the top of her head. Shannon's body collapsed in the shower and blood began to run into the drain. As for the killer, they continued to swing the hammer over and over again into Shannon's head.
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Her body twitched and then eventually stopped moving. She was dead in the shower. The killer turned off the water and just stood there for a second, staring down at what they'd done. And for the first time, they realized that killing Shannon was actually just the beginning. Now they had to get rid of her body. The killer rushed to the kitchen, found trash bags, and came right back.
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But they thought their differences actually complemented each other really well. So after dating for only a few months, Shannon and Arturo moved into an apartment together. And that's when things started to go bad. It was like right away, they just both stopped trusting each other.
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They opened up a bathroom cabinet, grabbed an electric razor, and turned it on. Then they leaned into the shower and shaved Shannon's head, believing this would help disguise her identity. When they were finished, the killer put the razor back, opened one of the trash bags, and awkwardly pulled Shannon's body out of the shower onto the bathroom floor.
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They tried to stuff Shannon into the trash bag, but quickly realized that was never going to work. So they tried to wrap the trash bag around her, but that failed too. The bag just wasn't big enough. The killer started to panic. They knew they had not thought this through. So they grabbed their phone and called their girlfriend. A few minutes later, there was a knock at the door.
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The killer opened it and quickly led their girlfriend into the bathroom and showed her Shannon's body. the girlfriend did her best to stay calm. She said after dark, they could move Shannon's body to her place and figure out what to do with it from there.
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So the killer and their girlfriend spent a couple of hours in Shannon's apartment, just kind of waiting around with Shannon's dead body only a few feet away. Not long after sunset, the killer and the girlfriend grabbed Shannon's clothes off the bathroom floor, they took her purse, and then did their best to wrap Shannon's body up in trash bags.
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Then they carried her body and her belongings out into the darkness and put everything into the trunk of the girlfriend's car. They drove to the girlfriend's house and brought Shannon's body inside and laid it in the bathtub. Then the killer called the one friend they thought could help. Later that night, that friend arrived with a fully formed plan and a machete.
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The killer, the girlfriend, and the friend of the killer spent the entire night dismembering Shannon's body At some point, the friend told the killer to order sulfuric acid online and to set up a delivery at a bulk store nearby.
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In the meantime, the friend gathered up all of Shannon's stuff the group had in their possession and went to a house party, where they knew there was going to be a big bonfire. And they burned everything. Not long after that, the sulfuric acid arrived at the bulk store.
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Keller picked it up, and the three of them covered the now dismembered body parts in the sulfuric acid, hoping to melt Shannon's skin down to the bone. But they soon discovered a problem. In an effort to save money, the killer had bought off-brand sulfuric acid, and it just was not doing the trick. Large parts of Shannon's body were disintegrating in the acid, but not all of it was.
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Arturo accused Shannon of still being into her ex-boyfriend, a guy she'd actually been living with before she met Arturo, and Shannon was convinced that Arturo had a thing for this woman who was always hanging around him when he would come to see Shannon at the club.
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So the friend took the machete and started hacking away even more at Shannon's body while the killer went out and bought a chest freezer. And eventually, the three of them were able to get Shannon's body parts into trash bags and a bucket, and they crammed all of that into the freezer and locked it.
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And at that point, the killer's friend, who made a point of studying serial killers, believed they had completely covered their tracks. Andrew Herman, the man who supposedly worshipped Jeffrey Dahmer, oversaw the disposal of Shannon's body and her belongings. And his friend, Anthony Gonzalez, who also went by his hip-hop name, Tony G, murdered Shannon.
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But it would turn out, Anthony Gonzalez and Tony G, those two names, were both aliases. Anthony, a.k.a. Tony G, was actually Shannon's boyfriend, Arturo Nevoa. On the night that he and Shannon had fought and he stormed out, Arturo did not leave for good. Instead, he came back, grabbed a hammer, and killed Shannon. But Arturo had not thought the murder through.
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So after it was done, he called his other girlfriend, the woman who Shannon had seen him hanging around with at the nightclub, for help. This girlfriend, who knew Arturo by his alias, Anthony Gonzalez, was very devoted to him and was willing to do whatever it took to protect him, which is why she was willing to help dispose of Shannon's body.
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Police had considered Arturo a suspect, and when they interviewed him after the missing persons report was filed, Arturo worried they would start closing in. So he had taken the freezer with Shannon's body in it to the house of a married couple he knew. He told them he had no electricity at his place and asked them to store the freezer so the meat wouldn't go bad. And they agreed.
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After the discovery of Shannon's body in their basement, police had begun to look for Anthony Gonzalez, which the married couple believed was their friend's real name who owned the freezer. But it was when the couple showed the police a picture of Anthony that the police knew they were onto something. Because they could tell the photo was not of Anthony. The photo was of Arturo.
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But whether or not those things were true, Shannon knew her issues with the relationship ran deeper than just thinking Arturo might like some other girl. Shannon had always been someone who loved change. She just never wanted to feel stuck.
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And finally, Shannon's ex-boyfriend, John, who had his own investigation, helped Detective Lambert solidify his case. When John led Lambert to the remnants of the bonfire and Shannon's friendship bracelet, it allowed Lambert to bring in Andrew for questioning, because that's who John said was burning all the stuff.
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And Andrew, when he was interviewed, just told Detective Lambert all about the horrors that had taken place from the moment Arturo killed Shannon until the moment the freezer ended up in the married couple's basement. Arturo was ultimately sentenced to 48 years to life in prison. His girlfriend was sentenced to 18 years for her role in the crime, and Andrew was sentenced to 12 years.
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And so to avoid that feeling, she would often do things like dye her long black hair green and blue, or she'd take much bigger steps, like she would occasionally just leave town for weeks at a time to go on an adventure by herself without telling anyone where she was. But living with Arturo had definitely made Shannon feel stuck. And over the last few months, that feeling had really worn her down.
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And as the night went on and these friends kept on partying, none of them could have imagined that this bonfire would soon help police solve one of the most horrific crimes the city of Youngstown had ever witnessed.
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Back in the apartment, Shannon eventually just stood up from the couch and began to walk out of the room. But as she did, Arturo snapped at her for some reason, and then before long, the two of them were just yelling at each other. And the argument escalated, even though neither of them really knew what they were even fighting about.
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Until finally, Arturo said, you know, maybe he should just leave for good. And then he stormed out. Shannon stood there in her apartment for a minute, trying to catch her breath and calm down. She was mad, but she also couldn't help but feel this sense of relief. If Arturo was gone, like really gone, she could now do anything she wanted. She could make a change. She could go someplace new.
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A few months earlier, Shannon had finally earned her cosmetology degree. She had worked really hard for it, and she was proud of herself. Some people had been surprised because they thought getting a degree sort of went against Shannon's need for constant change. But Shannon saw things differently. Her degree could open doors and give her a chance to work as a cosmetologist in different cities.
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Or maybe she could even become a highly sought-after makeup artist who would get to travel all over the world. but Arturo had never really supported her dreams, so she had kind of given up on them. Now she could start putting her degree and her talents to work, and she would not have to do that in Youngstown, Ohio. And just thinking about the possibilities for the future got her really excited.
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Shannon walked to the bathroom, got undressed, and turned on the shower. In her mind, she would wash off all the bad stuff that had happened recently, and it would be like the first small step towards a fresh start.
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On June 22, 2017, so four months after Shannon and Arturo had their big fight, Detective Mike Lambert of the Youngstown Police Department looked up from his desk, and he saw a uniformed police officer standing there with a woman who looked very pale and worried. Detective Lambert asked how he could help. The woman said her name was Debbie DePaul, and she needed to file a missing persons report.
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She said that nobody had seen or talked to her younger half-sister, Shannon Graves, in four months. A confused look came across Lambert's face, and for a second he thought he must have misheard her. And so he asked her again, you know, how long has it been since anybody talked to your half-sister? And Debbie repeated herself and said again it had been four months. This blew Lambert away.
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In all his time as a detective, he'd seen family and friends typically file missing persons report, if anything, too soon, like before they really needed to. Not four months after the fact. In fact, in the majority of cases he'd worked, the supposed missing person had turned up before the cops could even launch a real search.
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So he really couldn't understand why Debbie or anyone else close to Shannon had waited this long to talk to the police. Lambert told the other officer he could leave, and he asked Debbie to take a seat and walk him through what was going on here. After the officer left, Debbie sat down and said she knew how strange it must sound that she had waited this long.
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But if Lambert knew her sister Shannon, it would make way more sense. She said that Shannon had a history of just sort of taking off and not talking to anyone for long periods of time. It was something she'd done since she was a teenager. And as difficult as it was to deal with that, Shannon's friends and family had sort of come to accept it about her.
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It was one of the things that made Shannon who she was. But now, they noticed that Shannon had not called on a couple of family birthdays, and she also hadn't checked in when her best friend had a baby. And that was not like Shannon at all. Even when she went away without telling anyone, she would always call on these important days.
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Detective Lambert didn't say this, but he knew four months might as well have been an eternity when it came to a missing persons case. If Shannon had really left town like her sister claimed she liked to do, well, Shannon could be anywhere in the world by now. But Lambert figured he would just start his investigation the same way he would if Shannon had only been missing for a few days.
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So he took down information about Shannon's physical appearance, her last known address, and the places she had worked. He also learned small details like Shannon's favorite color was pink, and she loved wearing friendship bracelets. And so after only speaking to Debbie for a few minutes, Detective Lambert had a pretty good picture of who Shannon was. But he had one more question.
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He asked Debbie if Shannon had a romantic partner. Debbie said yes, Shannon had a boyfriend, or at least she did the last time they had spoken. She had been living with a guy named Arturo Neboa, and Shannon had told Debbie that she and Arturo fought all the time. The following day, Detective Lambert sat down with Arturo in a small interview room at the station.
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Lambert had looked into Arturo the night before. He knew Arturo had a couple of minor run-ins with the police, but nothing big. And he had no record of violent crimes or anything like that. So Lambert really just hoped that Arturo knew where Shannon was, or at least had heard from her over the past four months.
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Okay, let's get into today's story. On February 24th, 2017, 28-year-old Shannon Graves sat on the couch watching TV with her boyfriend in her apartment in Youngstown, Ohio. Shannon changed the channel, and right away she could see that her boyfriend, who was a man in his early 30s named Arturo Nevoa, looked annoyed by what she wanted to watch. So she flipped the channel to something else.
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And also, if he hadn't, he hoped to get a good idea of what Arturo and Shannon's relationship had been like. But when Lambert asked Arturo when he'd last seen or talked to Shannon, Arturo seemed surprised by the question. He said he'd already told all this to Shannon's family when they'd called him like a month or so earlier. He said he and Shannon had broken up back in February.
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He admitted that things ended pretty badly, so they had not spoken to each other since. The last he'd heard, Shannon was living with some guy in Cleveland, which was over an hour away from Youngstown. Arturo didn't know the name of the man that Shannon was supposedly living with, so he really couldn't provide much more color than he already had.
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And so Lambert wrapped up their conversation soon after that, and then he reached out to Shannon's sister, Debbie, to see if she knew of any men other than Arturo that Shannon could possibly be with. Debbie said before Shannon had started dating Arturo, she'd been in a serious relationship with a man named John Scarrato.
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Just hearing that name shocked Lambert, and it caused him to immediately begin planning his next move, because he knew John Scarrata all too well. John had a substantial criminal history. In fact, he had done time in prison on drug charges, and Lambert knew that John had gotten out of prison right around the last time anyone had seen Shannon.
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After speaking to Debbie, Detective Lambert got to work right away tracking down John. And it would turn out he was not in Cleveland. He was in Youngstown, trying to get his life together after getting out of prison. The following day, when John Scarrato walked into the interview room at the station, he greeted Detective Lambert like they were old friends.
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And when the detective brought up Shannon, John didn't seem surprised at all. He said he'd learned Shannon had disappeared not long after he'd gotten out of prison. So Lambert asked if he was worried about her. And John, in response to this, did something that Lambert did not see coming at all. John leaned forward in his chair and said, yes, he was really worried.
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In fact, he was so worried he'd started his own investigation. Lambert was so caught off guard by this that he didn't really know how to react. What did John mean he was doing his own investigation? But just then, John grabbed his phone out of his pocket, pulled up his photos, and showed them to Lambert.
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and Lambert saw multiple pictures of different cars that had been parked right outside of Shannon's apartment over the past few months. John had staked out the place looking for Shannon or for anything or anyone that seemed out of the ordinary. Lambert felt a little conflicted. He believed if something bad had happened to Shannon, John had to be a major suspect here.
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But he couldn't deny that he did want to track down all of these cars John had photographed at Shannon's apartment. So ultimately, Lambert did get the license plate numbers of all the cars, and he told John to stop staking out Shannon's place and to just let the police do their jobs. John said he totally understood. He just wanted to find Shannon and make sure she was okay.
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Detective Lambert knew John had connections to the criminal world of Youngstown, Ohio, so there really was a chance that John thought he was the best person to find Shannon, a woman he claimed to still be in love with.
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But there was also a chance that John was just trying to send the police on some kind of wild goose chase to keep them off of his trail, because maybe he had something to do with what happened to Shannon. So in the days following their meeting, Lambert and his team tried to get a clear picture of everywhere John had been since he'd gotten out of prison.
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And if he'd had any communication with Shannon near the time she'd supposedly disappeared. Police also questioned Shannon's friends, her family, and her coworkers at the nightclub. And they also followed up on all those cars John had photographed. But for Shannon's half-sister, Debbie, the police were not moving fast enough.
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She now believed that she and her family had waited way too long to get the cops involved, and so she felt like she had to do something to make up for that.
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So in late June, about a week after she had filed the missing persons report, Debbie knocked on the door of a house in Youngstown that looked pretty much like all the other houses around it, except for the sign in the window that advertised psychic readings. A woman with a soft smile opened the door and led Debbie down a hallway to a small dark room.
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The woman told Debbie she was a psychic medium, which meant she claimed to be able to communicate with spirits or the deceased and then was able to relay their messages to the living. Debbie sat down at a table with the medium and described Shannon and talked about how she'd been missing for months. The medium closed her eyes and listened carefully.
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And after a moment, she told Debbie she could see something, a bridge. Now, this medium didn't know exactly which bridge this was, but she was sure it was not far away from here. And somehow, this bridge had to be connected to Shannon's disappearance. Debbie left the medium's house and immediately called a friend of hers and told her what the medium had said.
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And both women decided it was clear what they had to do next. they would have to search every bridge in Youngstown, Ohio. And so for the next couple of weeks, Debbie and her friend went around town visiting every bridge they could find. And it started to feel like a waste of time.
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That is, until one afternoon when Debbie and her friend approached a small bridge that neither of them had driven on before. As they stepped out of the car, they saw something laying on the ground near the base of one of the bridge's girders.
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When Debbie walked over to it and knelt down to get a better look, she almost started crying because there, laying on the ground, were saw blades, a rope, and a pink sock. Debbie and her friend took pictures of the objects and then drove straight to the police station. Debbie told Detective Lambert about the medium's vision and showed him the photos of what they'd found at the bridge.
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He'd been cooperative the entire time, but now he said there was no way he was going to provide DNA. He still didn't really know what was going on here, and he hadn't even talked to a lawyer. Bramhall knew he couldn't force Stan to give them a DNA sample, not yet at least. He also knew a lot of people, even innocent people, didn't like the idea of providing their DNA.
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So Bramhall stood up, said he'd check into Stan's camping trip alibi, and that he'd be in touch. Hours later, Bramhall made it back to the station, and he felt like nothing had really changed regarding Stan.
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Stan was still a major suspect, and since he hadn't provided a DNA sample, the police would just have to keep digging into his alibi and his background to see if they could find anything that directly connected him to the murder. However, within minutes of getting back to the police station, one of Bramhall's team members came into his office and told him he had a major new lead.
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Detective Bramhall was worn out from all that driving he'd just done, but he felt an instant rush when he heard this. He asked the officer what he'd found. The officer said he'd spoken to the couple who employed Dana as their nanny, and they said Dana had a stalker, a guy named William.
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And Dana had even said to her employers that if she ever turned up dead, William would be the one who had killed her. Hey listeners, big news for true crime lovers. You can now enjoy this podcast ad-free on Amazon Music with your Prime membership.
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We just launched a brand new Strange, Dark, and Mysterious podcast called Mr. Ballin's Medical Mysteries. And as the name suggests, it's a show about medical mysteries. a genre that many fans have been asking us to dive into for years, and we finally decided to take the plunge, and the show is awesome.
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In this free weekly show, we explore bizarre unheard of diseases, strange medical mishaps, unexplainable deaths, and everything in between. Each story is totally true and totally terrifying. Go follow Mr. Ballin's Medical Mysteries wherever you get your podcasts, and if you're a Prime member, you can listen early and ad-free on Amazon Music.
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On the evening of September 2nd, two days after Dana's body had been found, Detective Bramhall sat inside of an interview room across the table from Dana's alleged stalker, William. It would turn out William had installed cabling at Dana's house a few months earlier.
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And since then, he'd been leaving notes and poems on Dana's front door, and he'd been seen lurking around her house a bunch of times by several of Dana's neighbors. Police also found a string of harassing messages from William on Dana's phone. And so all of that had been enough for Bramhall to secure a search warrant. And the search of William's house had led to a disturbing discovery.
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Inside the interview room, Detective Bramhall pulled out a notebook and put it on the table. Then he asked William if he recognized it. William lowered his head and then nodded. He said it was his personal journal. Bramhall flipped open the notebook and showed William what appeared to be a letter to an unnamed woman.
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And this letter was filled with all these violent things William wanted to do to her. Bramhall flipped to another page, which was another letter to the same unnamed woman filled with even more anger and more threats of violence. And so Detective Bramhall said it looked to him like William had been obsessed with Dana, leaving her notes and poetry and spying on her at her house.
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Just after midnight on August 31st, 2001, 36-year-old Dana Laskowski sat on her couch sipping a drink at her home in Puyallup, Washington, which is about 35 miles outside of Seattle. Dana had been enjoying a night at home by herself, but as she sat there on the couch, the silence in the house started to feel a bit unsettling. It just was not something she'd gotten used to yet.
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And when Dana didn't reciprocate, he got angry and started fantasizing about hurting her and began writing about it in his journal. But as William heard this, he just shook his head and said, no, it's not like that at all. William said those letters were an exercise his therapist had told him to do, and they weren't even about Dana.
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He said he had written that stuff about a woman who'd broken his heart, but it was just to get out the anger and hurt that he felt. He would never actually do any of the stuff he had written. Bramhall sat there in silence for a minute, just looking at the man across the table. Like Dana's husband, William was easily big enough to have overpowered Dana.
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And even if William was telling the truth about the notebook, he clearly had some kind of unhealthy obsession with Dana. So Bramhall leaned in and told William there was a really easy way for him to clear his name and help the police figure out what happened to Dana. William could provide the police with his phone and a DNA sample. And William didn't hesitate.
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He said he would do whatever the police needed, anything that would show he did not hurt Dana. In the days following the interview with William, Detective Bramhall and his team met with more of Dana's friends and family. Bramhall had two solid suspects, Stan, the estranged husband, and William, the stalker. But he still didn't have any clear evidence pointing to either of them.
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and most of the people he spoke to didn't provide much more information. But Bramhall eventually met with Dana's 17-year-old niece Amanda at her house, and she told him something that had the potential to turn his whole investigation on its head. Amanda told Bramhall that Dana was like a second mother to her and her best friend Emily.
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Dana let them come over whenever they wanted, and the house was like this great escape for them. Amanda said Dana even left her back door unlocked, just so they could come in whenever they wanted to. This was a huge piece of news for Bramhall. It now made sense how somebody could have gotten into Dana's house without actually having to break in. They just walked in the unlocked back door.
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But then Amanda said something else that seemed even bigger. She explained that she and Emily had become friends with a bunch of teenagers who called themselves the Park Rats. And Bramhall knew exactly who they were. And he knew some of them were bad news. More than a few park rats had ended up in jail for drugs and violent crimes.
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And so as soon as Bramhall heard this, he asked Amanda if any of the park rats knew that her aunt kept her back door unlocked. And Amanda nodded and said yes. She said she had actually brought a couple of the park rats to Dana's house to meet her, just because Amanda thought Dana was so good at taking care of people who didn't really have anybody else.
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And most of the park rats had very difficult home lives. Detective Bramhall left Amanda's house and laid out his next steps. So far, his case had seemed like a pretty straightforward case. Estranged husbands and stalkers were common suspects. but now he and his team were going to have to track down and interrogate a local gang of teenagers.
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Finding the park rats didn't prove to be too difficult for Detective Bramhall. A few trips to the public park where they hung out and meeting with a couple members of the group who were now in jail was really all it took. But getting the Parkraths to actually give him useful information turned out to be a lot harder.
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Dana was the mother of nine-year-old triplets, so the house was typically filled with a lot of noise. but tonight the kids were three hours away staying with their dad. Dana and her husband Stan had separated the previous year, and after the separation, Dana had moved several hours away to Puyallup, where some of her family lived. Dana and Stan had tried hard to effectively co-parent the triplets.
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Most of them said they knew about Dana's murder, but all of them denied having anything to do with it. And since Bramhall didn't have any evidence connecting these teenagers to the scene, he couldn't just arrest them and try to force them to talk. And so before long, a month had just flown by and Bramhall still didn't have anything.
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And in that time, no new evidence surfaced that pointed to either Dana's husband Stan or the stalker William. And so Bramhall began to worry that maybe Dana's death had been the result of a random burglary gone wrong, and that the police were not even close to tracking down her killer. On October 4th, 2001, so 34 days after Dana's murder, her friends and family finally gathered for her funeral.
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Because of the ongoing investigation, police had waited longer than usual to release the body back to the family. But now, a funeral home in town was packed with people who had come to express how much they loved and missed Dana, and how much she had been there for them.
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Detective Bramhall and some members of his team attended the funeral, watching to see if anyone might do something that jumped out at them. But nothing out of the ordinary happened. It was just a group of people grieving the loss of a loved one. After the service was over, Bramhall secured the funeral memorial book, which had been signed by the people who had attended.
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Bramhall hoped that he could find someone in this book that could maybe offer his investigation a new lead. So Bramhall and his team brought the book back to the station and they went through it, and as they did, they saw some people, in addition to signing it, also left written notes. And one of these written notes totally floored Bramhall.
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After reading the note several times, Bramhall felt confident he had just found a massive clue. Bramhall and his team quickly met with the person who had written this note, and what that person said led police right back to the park rats.
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Over the next several weeks, armed with new information from this memorial book, Detective Bramhall tracked down several of the park rats he'd already met with, and they were willing to cooperate. All of them still maintained they had nothing to do with Dana's murder. But they said there was somebody the police needed to talk to. It was someone they all knew and who they called The Mutant.
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Framhall thought The Mutant definitely sounded like a nickname a group of teenagers would come up with, like something out of a comic book. But the park rats said The Mutant was more like a name for a professional wrestler. Because The Mutant was really strong and loved to wrestle.
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And like all professional wrestlers, the mutant had a signature move, choking their opponent, twisting them at the waist, and bending their arm all the way behind their back. When Detective Bramhall heard about this signature wrestling move, immediately images of the bizarre position he'd found Dana's body in ran through his mind.
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And so the detective and his team spent the next several days compiling background information, and then they brought the mutant in for an interview. By the end of that interview, Detective Bramhall knew who had killed Dana Laskowski.
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Based on information from The Mutant, evidence found at the crime scene, and interviews conducted throughout the investigation, here is a reconstruction of what police believe happened to Dana not long after midnight on August 31, 2001. That night, the killer and their partner moved quietly through the darkness towards the back door of Dana's house.
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She loved the idea. She loved that the kids still had a good relationship with their father, but not having them around all the time had been a huge transition for Dana. Dana grabbed the remote off the coffee table and turned on the TV just to have some background noise. She sipped her drink and then kind of laughed at herself. Spending a night on her own really should not be that big of a deal.
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Once they got there, they opened it up, walked inside, and began walking down the hallway towards the front room. When they got there, they saw Dana standing by the couch. But before she could say anything, the killer demanded that Dana give them some money.
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Dana stayed calm and said she was sorry but didn't have any money, but the killer immediately snapped back and said Dana needed to hand over some cash right now. Dana repeated that she didn't have any money, and then she asked the killer and their partner to please just leave, but the killer wasn't having it. They walked over to Dana, they grabbed her, and shouted that they wanted her money now.
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Dana tried to push the killer off, but the killer was too strong. Dana screamed, and this only set off the killer even more. They hit Dana in the face and then slammed her to the floor. Dana tried to get up off the floor, but the killer just leapt on top of her and rolled her over onto her stomach. Then the killer saw one of Dana's scarves laying on the arm of the couch, and they grabbed it.
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Then, before Dana could do anything, they wrapped that scarf around Dana's neck and began choking her. Dana kicked and flailed, but the killer fought off her attack while the killer's partner just stood there watching.
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The killer kept choking Dana with the scarf in one hand and then with her other hand, they grabbed Dana's arm and they yanked it violently backwards, twisting her around at the waist. Dana tried to scream louder, but now she was gasping for air and slowly Dana's eyes went wide and she stopped breathing and she died right there on the floor.
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The killer let go of the scarf and Dana's arm, and they stood up. They stared down at Dana's body, and then over at their partner, who was still just standing there in a daze. Then the killer picked Dana up. The scarf fell to the floor as the killer laid Dana on the couch, still in her twisted position with her arm pinned behind her back.
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The killer then grabbed a folded-up blanket from the edge of the couch and covered Dana's feet and part of her legs with it, almost like they were tucking her in. But after the killer stepped away from the couch and kind of surveyed the scene, it was like they began to panic. They yelled at their partner that they needed to make this look like a robbery.
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The two of them quickly ran to Dana's bedroom and threw open all the drawers and littered the floor with clothing. They also carried some more clothes into the front room and dumped those on the floor as well. And then they ran out of the room, down the hall, and out the back door.
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The same back door that Dana had always left unlocked just for them, so they could always come to her house to escape their troubles at home. The people responsible for Dana's murder were Dana's own niece, Amanda, and Amanda's best friend, Emily Lauenborg, who all of the park rats knew as The Mutant.
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The two young women had gone to Dana's house to try to get Dana to give them some money, and when she refused, it was Emily, The Mutant, who attacked and killed her. Emily had not been high on the suspect list because on the surface, she did not fit the profile of the killer. Police had assumed that the killer was a man who was bigger and stronger than Dana.
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And Emily was a small young woman who was only about 5'2". But it would turn out, despite her small size, Emily was extremely strong and loved to wrestle. Hence how she got the nickname, The Mutant. The note that Detective Bramhall saw in Dana's funeral memorial book that really stood out to him was written by Dana's niece, Amanda.
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It should be fun, it should be enjoyable. And plus, even though her triplets would be gone for a few more days still, Dana worked as a nanny for a couple in town and she'd be able to spend time with their kids who she loved too. And so Dana told herself to just relax and enjoy a stress-free night. Then she leaned back on the couch and tried to watch TV.
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And it read, The funeral was held exactly 34 days after Dana's murder, suggesting Dana's murder prompted Amanda to go sober on that same day. Now, that in and of itself is not totally unreasonable, that a death in the family would prompt a big life change.
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However, to Bramhall, as he was reading through the notes, that note just felt weirdly specific to reference her sobriety and the exact number of days inside of this memorial book when all the other notes were just far less specific. And so to him, something felt off about it.
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And so the detective followed up with Amanda and asked her about the note, and she would admit to him that she had been struggling with drug addiction. And so Bramhall wanted to know if her sudden sobriety was connected to Dana's murder, like the note implied. And Amanda would say yes.
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And over the course of this discussion, she would also just tell Bramhall that there was this drug dealer in the Park Rats who might've killed her aunt. However, when Bramhall met with that drug dealer and several other members of the Park Rats, they all pointed the finger at Emily, the mutant. Police searched Emily's house and found a piece of paper in her room.
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On it, she had written a list of goals she had, and one of those goals was to, quote, kill someone and get away with it. Emily eventually confessed to the murder, and Amanda admitted to being in the house during the murder. Dana's niece Amanda aided the police in prosecution, and so she was not charged with any crime.
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As for Emily, she would take a plea deal and would only serve about five and a half years in prison. A quick note about our stories, they are all based on true events, but we sometimes use pseudonyms to protect the people involved and some details are fictionalized for dramatic purposes. Thank you for listening to the Mr. Ballin Podcast.
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But as she was doing that, she suddenly heard this noise coming from the back of the house. She put her drink down, turned off the TV, and then walked out of the room towards the back door. She expected to see her 17-year-old niece and Amanda's best friend, Emily Lawnborg, standing in the hall, because Dana always kept her back door unlocked for these two teenage girls.
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However, a tip from an informant had led him to this bedroom, and he hoped he'd find something useful there. The detective searched the room, and at first, nothing stood out to him. That is, until he saw a piece of notebook paper sitting on a nightstand. On this paper was somebody's list of goals they wanted to accomplish in their life. The detective scanned the list.
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Amanda and Emily both had strained relationships with their families, so Dana had become a kind of surrogate mother to both of them. She let them use her house to do laundry, take showers, or to just have a place they could come where they would feel taken care of. But when Dana reached the back of the house, she didn't see the girls standing in the hall.
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She walked to the back door and glanced outside onto the back porch, but she didn't see anybody there either. She figured she must be hearing things. Being home alone could do that after all. So she left the back door unlocked in case the girls did show up later and then turned back around and headed back to the couch.
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Even though it was late, Dana suddenly thought about giving her niece a call just to check in on her. The last time she'd seen Amanda and her friend Emily, they had been spending almost all their time with this group of teenage guys who called themselves the park rats because they always hung around at the same public park.
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Dana tried to keep an open mind and not judge, but she couldn't help but worry about two young women spending time with a group of guys who did not seem to have any ambition in life. And she knew for a fact that some of the park rats had pretty serious drug problems.
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On top of that, Amanda and Emily were both relatively small girls, and Dana knew they really couldn't protect themselves if any of the guys ever tried to get physical with them. Dana sat down on the couch, still debating if she should call Amanda. However, before she could make up her mind, she heard something at the back door again. Then she heard footsteps coming down the hall. At 10.30 a.m.
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the following morning, a patrol officer from the Puyallup Police Department pulled up in front of Dana's house. He'd gotten a message from dispatch about an urgent 911 call that had come in that morning. A woman had called and said her children's nanny, Dana Laskowski, had not arrived at the house when she was supposed to.
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The woman and her husband had both called Dana but couldn't get a hold of her. And this really worried them, because Dana would never not show up without calling and making sure the kids would be okay. So the woman had asked the police to please do a wellness check on Dana. The officer stepped out of his cruiser and glanced around the neighborhood.
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This was a pretty busy area of town with lots of fast food restaurants and shops nearby, so the street could see plenty of traffic at night. The officer walked up to Dana's front door and knocked while calling out her name and also introducing himself. But after a few moments, he didn't get a response and he also didn't hear any movement inside the house.
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And so eventually, the officer walked around to the side of the house and pressed his face against a window. However, the curtains inside the house made it difficult to see anything inside. So he walked around to the back of the house, and there he noticed the back door was cracked open.
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He slowly walked up the steps of the old wooden porch, approached the door, and then called out for Dana again through the crack. But there was still no response. the officer tensed up. He had no idea if this was an innocent mistake by Dana leaving this door open, or if maybe somebody had broken into her house. And if it was the latter, the intruder could still be inside.
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And so the officer unholstered his gun, pushed the door open, and stepped into the house. As he did this, he walked past an open door and glanced inside. It was a bedroom and it looked like it had been ransacked. Dresser drawers were open and clothes had been thrown all over the floor, but he didn't see anybody in the room.
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And so the officer kept heading down the hallway, getting more and more tense as he moved. He eventually reached the front room and stepped inside. And there he found more pieces of clothing on the floor, but he still didn't see anybody. The officer reached for his radio, about to call in a potential burglary, when he looked over at the couch.
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And immediately, what he saw there told him he was dealing with something far worse than just a break-in. A little later that morning, veteran homicide detective Scott Bramhall of the Puyallup Police Department arrived at Dana's house. He saw a patrol officer standing out front waiting for him. Bramhall could tell this officer was shaken up by what he'd found inside.
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Detective Bramhall talked to the officer and got as much information as he could, then he put on his gloves and stepped inside. Bramhall walked into the front room of the house and immediately saw what had upset the patrol officer. The dead body of a woman lay on the couch, with a blanket partially covering her legs, almost like she'd been keeping her feet warm.
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The patrol officer had found a photo ID during his search, and he had positively identified the woman as Dana Laskowski, the woman he had come to do the wellness check on. Detective Bramhall approached Dana's body and crouched down beside it. Right away, he saw specks of blood on her cheeks and mouth, as well as blood on the carpet by the couch.
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He also saw deep, dark bruises and ligature marks on Dana's throat. Ramhall looked around the room and saw a scarf on the floor not far from the couch. And his first thought was Dana had most likely been strangled to death, and that scarf could very well be the murder weapon. But the position Dana was lying in was by far the most shocking thing about this crime scene.
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Dana's head rested on one of her arms, but her other arm was bent at a strange angle behind her back, and her waist was twisted in an awkward position like her body was contorted. The result of all this was that even in death, Dana appeared like she was actively in some kind of physical struggle. Just then, the detective heard voices and footsteps behind him.
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He stood up and turned to see more police officers and a small group of forensic technicians walking into the room. Bramhall waved one of the forensic techs over, and the two of them began examining Dana's body together. The tech agreed that Dana had most likely been strangled to death, and the severity of the wounds on her throat indicated that whoever had killed her was pretty strong.
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Also, Detective Bramhall knew that in a lot of cases of strangulation, the victim fights back really aggressively, thrashing and fighting as much as they can, giving further credibility to the idea that Dana's killer really did have to be big and strong to be able to overpower her. After a few moments, Bramhall left the forensic tech and searched the rest of the house with a few other officers.
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He told a member of his team to get started on a background check for Dana, while other officers went out to speak with Dana's neighbors to see if any of them had seen or heard something strange that morning or the night before. As the detective made his way through Dana's house, it was clear the place had been ransacked.
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However, he noticed that some pretty obviously expensive items like a computer and other electronics had been left untouched. This could mean a couple of different things. Either someone had robbed Dana's house looking for something specific like jewelry, or this entire scene had been staged to look like a robbery.
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Another thing that stood out to Bramhall was that even though Dana's body and the blood indicated a struggle, there was no sign of forced entry. The back door had been open and unlocked when the patrol officer had first arrived on the scene, and the front door had been locked and showed no signs of a break-in.
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So Bramhall wondered if Dana had let her killer inside or if they had unlocked the back door with their own key. As Bramhall was searching the house, one of his team members came up to him This officer told him that he'd only just started looking into Dana's background, but already he'd found something important.
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She and her husband Stan were recently separated, and Stan was not answering his phone. That night, after Detective Bramhall had spent hours at Dana's house, he got back to the police station, and he was already feeling antsy. Dana's husband, Stan, like any murder victim's spouse, would basically automatically be a major suspect under almost any circumstance.
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However, in the few hours since Bramhall had begun working this case, Stan had started to look like the perfect suspect. Stan had not responded to the multiple calls the Puyallup police had made throughout the day. And when Detective Bramhall had reached out to police in the town where Stan lived, they actually went by his house. and there had been no sign of Stan or the triplets.
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Now, Detective Bramhall did not want to jump to conclusions here. However, he couldn't ignore what might be going on here. A man killing his estranged wife so he could have sole custody of their kids was actually a fairly common thing. Still, Bramhall couldn't do anything until they actually tracked Stan down.
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So, the detective stayed in touch with the police in Stanstown, and he also contacted the Washington State Police to tell them to be on the lookout for Stan. In the meantime, Bramhall started to gather information on Dana's friends, family, and her employers.
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Now, he was already planning on interviewing everybody close to Dana, but if Stan didn't turn up soon, he hoped maybe one of them would be able to help police track him down. But the following morning, before Bramhall had met with anybody else, he got a phone call in his office. And as soon as he answered, he heard the voice of a man who sounded upset and a bit frightened.
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It was Dana's husband, Stan. Stan explained that he had just taken his kids camping and had been at a spot out in the woods that didn't get cell service. So when he'd left the campsite earlier that morning, he saw he had tons of voice messages from the police. And when he had called the cops back, he learned that his estranged wife had been murdered.
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And then after that, the police had connected him to Detective Bramhall. There was no question in Bramhall's mind that Stan was a major suspect. However, if Stan was innocent, Bramhall could not imagine a worse way to have gotten such horrific news. Bramhall told Stan they needed to talk right now in person, and so Bramhall said he would just drive over to Stan's house right now.
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Stan said okay, and so Detective Bramhall hung up and then told members of his team to begin looking into Dana's friends and family. Then Bramhall got in touch with the local police where Stan lived to say he was going there to interview him, and then he headed out.
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The five-hour drive led Bramhall through the woods and hills of the Pacific Northwest, and as he drove, it hit Bramhall just how slow-going this trip really was. He wondered if Stan had gotten angry about having to make this drive just to see his kids. Maybe he'd gone to Dana's house and confronted her about it. If they'd gotten into a fight, Stan could have flown into a rage and killed her.
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Now, this was just a theory... But when Bramhall finally got to Stan's house along with a local officer and they met Stan at the front door, Bramhall's theory didn't seem too far-fetched. Because Stan was a big guy, he could have easily overpowered Dana.
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But more importantly, Bramhall noticed right away that Stan had scrape marks on both of his legs, a sign that perhaps he had a recent physical altercation with someone. Stan led Bramhall and the other officer into his house and they all sat down together in the kitchen. Bramhall didn't waste any time.
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He asked Stan flat out if he and Dana had been arguing about their separation and if that tension had led to any physical altercations. Stan immediately shook his head and said no.
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He didn't deny that he and Dana argued and that being separated and trying to co-parent triplets could be stressful, but he said he and Dana had worked hard to help each other and to support each other and to make their kids' lives as normal as possible. Bramhall immediately changed the subject and asked Stan how he'd gotten those scrapes on his legs.
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Stan looked a little surprised by the question, but he said he'd gotten them while playing baseball. Bramhall jotted it down in his notebook, having no sense of whether or not he was actually getting the truth. Finally, Bramhall asked Stan if he'd be willing to submit a DNA sample. And at that, Stan's whole demeanor changed.
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Ted's 19-year-old son, Nicholas, and Nicholas's girlfriend, Jackie Edison, parked behind the line of police cars outside the house that Nicholas had grown up inside of. They both got out of the car and immediately spotted Corey, who was still standing in the front yard, and began running towards her. An officer stopped them, but when they said who they were, he let them by.
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A moment later, Nicholas and Jackie were hugging Corey, and all three of them just stood there, crying. Inside the house, Detectives Moore and Salo got word that Ted's son had just arrived, so they quickly went outside and found Nicholas and Jackie still standing with Corey. The detectives apologized for interrupting, but they asked Nicholas if they could talk to him for a few minutes.
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Nicholas said, of course, and then followed the detectives across the yard to a spot where they'd be able to talk without anybody else hearing. Moore started off by asking Nicholas where he'd been around 4.45 a.m. that morning, the time the 911 call had come in. And Nicholas said that he and his girlfriend were asleep at their place in College Station.
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Jackie was a student at Texas A&M down there, and Nicholas worked trading stocks as a day trader. Moore took down a few notes and then asked Nicholas if there was anyone he could think of who had a problem with his father and might have wanted to do this. But Nicholas shook his head and said basically everybody who knew his parents loved them.
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Moore asked if there was anything at all about Nicholas's dad that he could think of that could maybe help them, even if it was really small. Nicholas thought about it for a few seconds and then suddenly his eyes went wide like he just remembered something. He said there was one thing that could be important, but it was a really weird situation.
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When he'd still been living at home, his next-door neighbor had come to him and said she thought that her husband was cheating on her. This neighbor knew Nicholas was pretty good with technology, so she'd asked if there was any way he could track her husband or something, and she told him she would pay him for his services.
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Nicholas had felt strange getting involved in something like this, but his next-door neighbor was a nice woman and a good friend of his mother's, so he had helped her. He had put a tracker on her husband's car and followed him one night to another woman's house, and it became clear pretty quickly that the man was cheating on his wife. Now, Nicholas got a worried look on his face.
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He'd always assumed the husband never knew he was involved in helping the wife catch him cheating. But if this man had found out it was him, he might have wanted revenge, and his dad might be dead because of it. After that, the detectives told Nicholas he could go rejoin his mother. After he had walked off, the two men just looked at each other and shook their heads in disbelief.
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That was a really weird story. Neither of them had ever run into a teenager who had acted like a private investigator to catch a cheating husband. It almost sounded made up, more like something the kid might have watched on TV. But regardless, it was a good lead. After Moore and Salo finished up their initial work at Ted and Corey's house, they walked next door to the neighbor's house.
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They knocked on the front door and a woman answered, and quickly she invited them inside. They all sat down at her kitchen table, and the detectives didn't waste any time. They needed to know if Nicholas' wild story about trailing this woman's husband was true. The woman looked a little embarrassed, but she said Nicholas was telling the truth.
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She felt bad for dragging a teenager into her marital problems, but she had been desperate. Detective Moore leaned in and told her he did not need all the details about her marriage, but he needed to know one thing that was extremely important. Had she ever told her husband about Nicholas's involvement in all of this? The woman didn't hesitate. She said no way would she ever do that.
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Her husband, who had since moved away and was soon to be her ex-husband, had no idea at all about Nicholas. And as she was talking, the reason for this line of questioning finally dawned on her. And she stopped and just said her husband might have cheated on her, but there was no way he would have ever attacked Ted or anybody else like that.
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The detectives left the house not long after that and headed back to the station. Despite what the woman said about her husband, they knew they still had to track him down and get more information directly from him.
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In the days following the murder, while members of their investigative team followed up on the neighbor's husband, Moore and Salo contacted Ted's closest friends to see what else they could learn about him. But not much new came from that. Everybody seemed to like Ted, and nobody could understand who would do this unless it was a robbery.
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Now, while the detectives still were not convinced Ted's death was the result of a robbery gone wrong, they did start to look more into the jewelry store to see if maybe somebody had been staking the place out and following Ted home. However, they got a phone call from Ted's son, Nicholas, that caused them to quickly change the direction of their investigation.
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Nicholas was aware that his bedroom window had been found open on the night his father was killed, and he said he just couldn't stop thinking about it, and in fact, there was something he felt like he needed to share with the detectives. He told them when he was younger, he would use his bedroom window to sneak out of the house and then get back inside without his parents knowing.
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It was just stupid teenager stuff, nothing serious, but he did it so often that he made a habit of just keeping that window unlocked. Now he realized that particular window might have been left unlocked even after he had moved out. But what Nicholas said was really weighing on him was that there was only really one other person who knew he did this with his window.
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And that was his friend Spencer Patterson. Because he and Spencer had crept out of that window a bunch of times together when Spencer had slept over. Detective Salo asked Nicholas if the reason he was so worried was because maybe Spencer had some reason to come after Nicholas now? Like, had they had a bad fight or something?
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Nicholas said no, but he said Spencer would have gone to their house and potentially used that window to get in there and get his parents' money and jewels. Nicholas said Spencer had not really grown up with money of his own, and he'd always been kind of jealous of how wealthy Nicholas' family was. And there was more.
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Spencer not only knew about the bedroom window, he also knew exactly where to find Nicholas's parents' safe. About a week after the murder, Detective Salo and Moore sat together in an office, going over the notes they'd already put together. And even though their investigation was still relatively new, they felt like they had some promising leads.
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they still thought there was a strong chance that Corey had simply shot her husband, because in addition to what they'd learned at the house, they'd now discovered that Corey was the beneficiary of Ted's $1 million life insurance policy. She also stood to gain sole ownership of the jewelry store and the house, which were both worth a ton of money too.
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The detectives believed they'd have a clear idea about Corey's potential involvement in the murder when they got the results of the ballistics tests that would show if Corey's gun had fired the bullets that killed Ted. But the detectives had also started to consider that maybe Corey had been right. Maybe this was a robbery gone bad.
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And if that was the case, Nicholas's friend, Spencer, had to be high on their suspect list. Even if this robbery had not actually been successful, Spencer did know that Ted and Corey were wealthy, he knew how to sneak in through Nicholas's window, he knew his way around the maze-like house, and he knew where the safe was.
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Detective Moore picked up the phone, put it on speaker, and called the number he had for Spencer. Spencer picked up, and Moore quickly introduced himself and then immediately launched into a series of questions.
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The detectives learned that Spencer had gone over to Ted and Corey's house for dinner about a month ago when Nicholas had been visiting, and they said that they had treated him like he was one of the family, just like they'd done since he was a kid.
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Moore asked Spencer how he and Nicholas used to sneak out of the house when they were younger, and Spencer talked about using the bedroom window, just like Nicholas had said. While the detectives talked to Spencer, they kept getting the feeling like he was holding something back.
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The kid was being very cooperative in answering their questions, but there just seemed like there was always this hesitation, or like he was about to say something and then chose not to. By the end of the call, Moore and Salos still did not feel satisfied, so they scheduled an in-person meeting with Spencer. And in the meantime, they decided to keep a close eye on their other major suspect.
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About a week later, in late March, Nicholas and Jackie were sitting on the couch in the front room of Ted and Corey's house, looking at Corey as she stared out the window onto the street. Nicholas didn't want his mom to be alone, so he told her that he and Jackie would stay at the house as long as they needed to. That had cheered Corey up, but it was clear she was still struggling.
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And today, Nicholas and Jackie were extra worried about her because she kept standing there just staring out the window. They had no idea why. But suddenly, Corey turned around and told them to come over and take a look for themselves. And so Nicholas and Jackie walked over to the window and Corey pointed to a plain-looking sedan on the street.
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She told them she thought it was a cop and that he was watching her. At first, this seemed like paranoia to Nicholas and Jackie. However, when Nicholas looked out the window and he got a good look at that car before it drove off, he thought his mom was right. It definitely could be an unmarked police car. Corrie stepped away from the window and collapsed onto the couch.
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She didn't understand why the police would be watching her. Why weren't they out finding the person who had actually killed her husband? Nicholas looked over at his mom and he could tell she was just in total despair. And so he leaned over to Jackie and whispered something in her ear. Jackie was surprised by what she just heard, but she quickly smiled and nodded her head.
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And so Nicholas took Jackie's hand and together they walked over to the couch where Corey was. And then Nicholas took a breath and said that he and Jackie had something very important he wanted to tell her. They were not just boyfriend and girlfriend anymore. They had actually gotten married. Corey instantly sat up and just stared at them for a second, shocked.
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Nicholas quickly said that they had planned to tell her and dad when they came to visit next, and they still wanted to have a big ceremony, but they had just decided they wanted to spend the rest of their lives together, and so they had just gotten it done and gotten married. After a tense couple of seconds, Corey broke down in tears, but these were tears of joy.
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She got off the couch, smiled, and hugged Jackie and told her how happy she was to welcome her to the family. Then, Corey said Jackie should go pick an engagement ring from their jewelry shop and then they should have a big engagement party. Even if they were already married, she didn't want her to miss out on anything.
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And who knows, maybe this was a way for them to start to heal a bit and move forward as a family. Nicholas was very relieved. He was so glad the news had made his mom as happy as he hoped it would.
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But as excited as she seemed, and as much as they all wanted something to celebrate during this terrible time, Nicholas just couldn't shake the image of that unmarked police car staking out his mother's house. Over the following weeks, the investigative team continued to dig into the Shaughnessy's financial records, and they also did keep eyes on Corey's house.
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While that was going on, detectives Moore and Salo met in person with Nicholas' friend Spencer. And somehow, being face-to-face with him made them feel even more like he was hiding something. And it was strange, because on the surface, Spencer seemed cooperative and like he wanted to help.
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But there was just something about the way this kid spoke that convinced Moore and Salo that they couldn't fully trust him. So after meeting with Spencer at the station, the detectives secured warrants to search Spencer's house and his car. Now, the search of the house didn't turn up anything out of the ordinary. However, when they went through Spencer's car, they found a .380 caliber gun.
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Spencer had never mentioned having this gun, which seemed a little odd since he knew he was being investigated for a shooting. The detectives thought if he had wanted to clear himself, he wouldn't try to hide the fact that he owned a gun. And within days, this new piece of evidence looked a lot more damning.
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Because when Ballistic's reports came back, they showed that some of the bullets fired at the crime scene came from a .357, which matched Corey's gun, and some of the others came from a .380, just like Spencer's. About a month after Ted's murder, Detectives Moore and Salo believed they had Ted's killer in their sights.
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They collected more financial records and cell phone data to try to tie up any loose ends, and then they brought Spencer into the station for one last interview. Spencer sat down at a small table across from Salo and Moore in a brightly lit, cramped room. He'd always seemed a bit nervous to the detectives, but today, he looked like he was carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders.
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But despite that, Moore and Salo didn't go on the attack. Spencer was young, and he was nervous and scared. So, Moore tried to put him at ease. He told him they thought they knew what happened on the morning Ted died. They just needed Spencer to help them fill in the blanks.
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And before Spencer could even begin to talk, the detectives confronted him with all the evidence they had in the case, since they told him there really wasn't any point trying to hide anything anymore. After a very tense minute, Spencer looked across the table at the detectives and then told them everything he knew.
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Following that interview, it would take Moore and Salo several more weeks to nail everything down. But in May of 2018, two months after Ted's murder, they knew exactly what had happened and who had fired the shots that killed Ted Shaughnessy.
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Based on Spencer's interview, cell phone data, and evidence collected throughout the investigation, here is what police believe happened to Ted in the early morning hours of March 2, 2018. On that morning, the killers crept through the dark house, led only by the light shining from one of their phones. They each held a gun in their hands, and they tried to move as slowly and quietly as possible.
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But when they made it to the kitchen and turned towards the main bedroom, they heard dogs start barking. The killers froze, not sure what to do. One of the dogs sounded really aggressive. The killer holding the phone shined the light towards the bedroom door, and right away they both saw something moving towards them.
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As the barking got louder and they heard footsteps and loud clacking on the wooden floors, suddenly the light illuminated the dog, and it was the Rottweiler, Bart, bounding towards them, baring his teeth. One of the killers instinctively raised their gun and fired off a shot. The dog squealed and fell to the kitchen floor. Ted screamed and ran into the kitchen after the dog.
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He raised his gun, but before he could get a shot off, now both killers started firing. The sound of gunshots crashed through the house as bullets hit Ted in the back, the thigh, and the head. Ted collapsed to the floor under the kitchen table, dead. The killers began shouting at each other, starting to panic. This had not gone the way it was supposed to.
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On the evening of March 1st, 2018, 55-year-old Ted Shaughnessy placed a necklace in a glass display case in his high-end jewelry store in Austin, Texas. Ted adjusted his glasses on his face and then leaned in a bit closer, and he saw the lights in the case bounce off the gold and jewels in this necklace, and it was so beautiful, he just smiled.
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But before they could make another move, bullets came whizzing out of the dark into the kitchen, hitting the wall and sending pieces of plaster onto the floor. The killer with the cell phone shined the light in the direction of the gunshots, trying to get a clear look at the shooter.
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Their hands were shaking and they couldn't really aim well, but still the killers just held their guns and started firing wildly. And then finally the shots stopped and the kitchen fell silent. One of the killers shouted that they needed to get out of there. So they ran out of the kitchen into one of the bedrooms and climbed out the open window.
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Outside, they ran as fast as they could through the darkness back to a car they'd parked down the street. They got in, and one of the killers hit the gas and floored it through the neighborhood while the other killer sat panicking in the passenger seat.
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They both knew they had screwed up, and now they were going to have to get in touch with the people who had hired them and tell them they'd only taken out one of the intended targets. The killers were two men who had no connection to Ted. However, the two people who hired these men were Ted's own son, Nicholas, and the woman Nicholas had secretly married, Jackie Edison.
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Nicholas knew if both of his parents were dead, he would inherit their store and their house and benefit from their life insurance policies, all of which would have made him a multimillionaire. And Nicholas really wanted that money because he had gone into quite a bit of debt from playing the stock market as a day trader.
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So with Jackie's help, he found two hit men and offered to pay them a lot of money to kill both Ted and Corey and to make it look like a robbery. Nicholas told the hit men about his bedroom window and gave them a complete layout of the house. But on the night of the murder, the hitmen did not imagine they would find themselves in a full fledged shootout.
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So when Corey started firing off her 357 at them, the whole plan fell apart. And so when Corey rushed back to her closet to call 911, instead of the hitmen going after her and killing her, they just ran out of the house and didn't even attempt to make it look like a robbery. And then a few hours later, when Nicholas and Jackie arrived at the house, they knew their plan had not worked.
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so they tried to play the perfect son and daughter-in-law. Nicholas also sent the cops after the neighbor's husband and his close friend Spencer. The neighbor's husband was cleared as a suspect very quickly, but Spencer remained high on the suspect list, just like Corey was, for a significant amount of time.
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However, when ballistics tests came back, they confirmed that none of the bullets fired from Corey's gun had actually struck Ted, and that the gun that was found in Spencer's car had not been used in the murder. And that fingerprint that had been found on the bedroom window did not match Spencer's. In fact, it just turned out to be an old print from when the window had been manufactured.
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So, the detectives no longer believed Spencer committed the murder. And the more they talked to Spencer, the more they realized he wasn't hiding something to protect himself. He was hiding something to protect his best friend, Nicholas.
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He and his wife, Corey, had owned this jewelry store for 20 years. Corey had a keen eye for jewelry, so she worked as the appraiser, choosing which pieces to buy and then sell inside of the store, and also determining how much they were worth. And Ted was a great salesman. Ted took pride in the way he displayed the jewelry in the store.
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But in his final meeting with police, Spencer would admit that Nicholas had talked to him on several occasions about wanting to murder his parents and hiring hitmen to do it. And after this, when police dug deeper into Nicholas' phone records, they found a couple of things that sealed the case.
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Nicholas, being the family member who was the most tech-savvy, set up an app on his phone that enabled him to control the alarm system on his parents' house. And the second discovery, and the far more damning one, was a series of text messages between Nicholas and Jackie in which the two of them were clearly arranging a murder-for-hire.
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Nicholas and both shooters were sentenced to 35 years in prison. Jackie cut a plea deal and received 10 years of probation, but with one very specific caveat. She had to spend two nights in jail every year on the anniversary of Ted's murder.
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He wanted to draw the customers in, and then once they were there, Ted would approach them like they were lifelong friends. Now, part of the reason he did this was just because it was an effective sales tactic. But also, Ted really did love meeting and talking with people who came in to shop off the street. That's actually one of the reasons he'd worked in retail for most of his adult life.
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MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
Ted locked the display case and walked around the shop, turning off lights and closing things up for the day. Then he set the security alarm, headed out the door and locked it behind him. Some nights, Ted would stay at the jewelry store long after it had closed to go over the books or to redo the displays. But tonight, he wanted to get home as quickly as he could.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
He and his wife had plans to spend the entire night doing one of their favorite things, eating a great home-cooked meal together and just relaxing and watching TV. After leaving the store, Ted climbed into his car and headed home. About 25 minutes later, he pulled into his neighborhood and he looked around at all the huge houses with sprawling front yards and swimming pools out back.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
Later, detectives found a chaotic scene in the kitchen, bullet casings everywhere, a middle-aged man dead on the floor, and a handgun near his hand. The woman claimed intruders had broken in, killed her husband, and fled when she opened fire. Detectives, however, began to suspect that the scene was staged to cover up something darker, possibly a wife killing her husband.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
He found his house, which was just as big as all the others, and he pulled into the long driveway and came to a stop. He got out of the car, walked inside his house through the front door, and the moment he was inside, he was hit with this wonderful smell of something delicious cooking in the kitchen.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
But before he could even call out to his wife, he heard loud clacking sounds on the hardwood floors as two large dogs bounded through the front room towards him. Ted enthusiastically knelt down and began goofing around with the dogs and asking them how they were doing like they could answer back.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
Then he stood back up and the dogs followed at his heels as Ted made his way through the house, which could feel like walking through a maze for somebody who had never been there. Ted and the dogs got to the kitchen, and Ted saw his wife, Corey, standing over the stove. Corey turned around, and Ted immediately walked over, put his hands on her waist, and gave her a kiss.
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Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
Ted helped his wife put some finishing touches on the meal, and then they both got excited about the night ahead of them. They knew a lot of people would find this to be a pretty boring way to spend the night, but Ted and Corey really were never happier than when they were just hanging out together.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
After the food was finally done cooking, the couple sat down and ate their great meal at the dining room table while their dogs just stared at them, hoping for some scraps. After they were all done eating, Ted cleared the table and took the dishes into the kitchen. One of the dogs, a Rottweiler named Bart, followed him every step of the way.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
After Ted rinsed off the dishes, he joined his wife on the couch in the front room. He draped his arm around her shoulder, and she leaned her head on his chest as they began to watch TV. They spent the night flipping between channels, really only half paying attention. Most of the time, they just talked.
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Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
Talked about things at the jewelry store, and also how their son and his girlfriend seemed to be getting pretty serious. Even though their 19-year-old son only lived about two hours away in College Station, Texas, and they saw him often, it still felt strange to be empty nesters, not to have him in the house anymore.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
Before they knew it, they had spent hours just sitting there talking and they'd both begun to feel tired. So Ted flipped off the TV and the couple headed to their bedroom with both of their trusty dogs trotting along right behind them. A little before 4.45 a.m.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
on March 2nd, 2018, so several hours after Ted and Corey had gone to bed, they both suddenly woke up to the sound of their dogs barking in their room. Ted flipped on the light on his bedside table, and he and his wife looked over and saw their dogs barking away, standing right by the bedroom door. Ted tried to get them to calm down, but they just kept on barking over and over again.
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Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
Ted could see his wife looked frightened, and he was feeling a bit freaked out too. The dogs were both really good guard dogs, and they usually only got agitated when they'd heard something. And so Ted slowly got out of bed, opened the drawer on the bedside table, and pulled out a .45 caliber handgun. He checked to make sure it was loaded and then told his wife to stay in the room.
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Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
Ted walked over to the door, opened it up and headed outside. He made his way into the dark kitchen and Bart the Rottweiler followed right behind. Just a few minutes later, Corey threw open her closet door, jumped inside, and slammed it shut behind her.
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Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
She crouched down in the corner, trying to make herself as small as possible, and as she sat there panting out of breath, she clutched her phone in one hand, and in the other hand, she was holding a .357 caliber revolver. She dialed 911 on her phone and pressed it to her ear, and at the same time, she held the gun out in front of her, aimed at the closet door in case anybody approached her.
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Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
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MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
She heard the sound of the emergency operator on the other line, and she said the police needed to get to her house right away. Multiple gunshots had been fired, she didn't know if her husband was even alive at this point, and she said she was sure she would be dead within seconds.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
Fifteen minutes later, so just after 5 a.m., Travis County homicide detectives James Moore and Paul Salo headed up the long walkway toward Ted and Corey's front door.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
By this point, crime scene tape had already been stretched across the large property, several uniformed police officers stood on the lawn, and two officers stood near the front door with Corey, who was there in her nightgown, sobbing. Detectives Moore and Salo introduced themselves to Corey and told her they'd be back to her shortly. Then they put on their gloves and headed inside of her house.
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Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
Just standing in the front room, both detectives got a sense of how big this house was and how many different hallways and paths there were to take. They made their way through the front room and walked into the kitchen, where a team of forensics officers were already searching for evidence. On the floor, sprawled out under the kitchen table, the detectives saw Ted Shaughnessy's body.
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Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
Blood covered his face and his chest. But the detectives also saw something that completely threw them off. Because in the call they got, they'd already been told about Ted being deceased. But they didn't expect to also see his pet dog lying right there with him.
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Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
Bart, the Rottweiler, had clearly been shot and killed, laying just a few feet in front of Ted, like he'd been trying to maybe protect him. One of the forensics officers joined Detectives Moore and Salo and pointed out multiple bullet casings littering the kitchen floor.
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Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
In fact, there were so many casings that the detectives thought it looked like a massive shootout had taken place right there in the kitchen. The detectives walked over to the kitchen table and knelt down by Ted's body. Near his outstretched hand, they saw a .45 caliber handgun. Moore checked the magazine and saw it was full. So it appeared like Ted had not fired a single shot from his weapon.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
However, Moore asked the forensics officer if there was any chance that Ted maybe did fire off some shots and actually emptied out a magazine and then reloaded. And then once it was reloaded, maybe he didn't fire again, giving the impression he had not shot at all. Now, Moore didn't think this was likely, but he just wanted to be sure.
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Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
The forensics officer told him they were still looking at everything, but so far, none of the casings they'd found matched the caliber of Ted's gun. So very likely, Ted did not fire a single shot. After spending some time searching the kitchen and also studying Ted's wounds, Moore and Salo began to make their way through the rest of the house.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
They found a home security system that was not armed, and they didn't find any evidence of forced entry at the front, back, or side doors. They thought maybe whoever had killed Ted had been invited inside the home or at the very least had a key. However, as soon as they stepped into one of the bedrooms, they immediately began to rethink that theory.
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Based on the way the room was decorated, it appeared to belong to a young man. But more importantly, when they looked inside this room, they could see that one of the windows was open and the window screen had been removed and dropped down onto the ground just outside. Moore and Salo went back to the kitchen and told the forensics officers what they just found.
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Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
And as members of the forensics team headed to that bedroom, the detectives made their way to the front of the house and walked outside. They saw Ted's wife, Corey, still standing with the two officers. They approached her and gently asked if she was up to answering a few questions. Corey wiped some tears away from her face, but then nodded and said she was.
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Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
And so Detective Salo asked her if she could just walk them through what had happened that morning. Corey said that she and her husband had woken up sometime around 4.45am when they heard their dogs barking. Ted had grabbed his gun and walked out with one of the dogs, while she had stayed back in the bedroom with the other dog.
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Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
But then she said she heard gunshots coming from the kitchen, so she grabbed her own gun and ran out of the bedroom. She could hear her husband screaming, but there was also this bright light shining directly at her, making it really hard to see. All she could see were shadows moving around in front of her.
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Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
But then she saw one of these shadows fire a gun and kill one of their dogs, and so instinctively she raised her own gun and unloaded her weapon, trying to hit the shadow. Detective Salo asked her what kind of weapon she had, and Corey said she had a .357 revolver. Salo and Moore looked at each other, but didn't say anything.
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Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
Corey had just admitted she fired her weapon inside the house, and they've just found her husband dead from gunshots. So either she was lying and was making this whole thing up about shadows to cover up her part in the crime, or this really happened. Detective Moore asked Corey if one of the bedrooms in the house belonged to a young man. Corey said they must mean her son's room.
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Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
She said she still had his room, but he was 19 years old now and lived a couple of hours away with his girlfriend, and she'd already asked an officer to call them right after police had arrived, and they were on their way right now. Detective Salo asked Corey if she could give any description of the person she'd fired her gun at, even though it was dark and shadowy.
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Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
Corey shook her head and said no. She figured it was just a burglar. After all, she and Ted were well-known in the area for their jewelry store and for having made a good amount of money. And so they knew they were a target for a robbery. After this, Salo and Moore stepped away from Corey and headed back inside the house. And already, they were starting to question some of Corey's answers.
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Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
Like most spouses in murder cases, Corey was immediately considered a suspect, and the fact that her weapon had been fired in the house only made her a stronger one. On top of that, when she called 911, she said she was hiding in the closet, and she was sure whoever was inside her house was coming for her. But when the police had arrived and done a sweep of the house, nobody was there.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
Finally, Corey had just claimed that she thought this was all a robbery gone bad. However, the detectives had walked through the house and seen stacks of cash, high-end jewelry, and expensive electronics just laying out untouched. And Corey and Ted's safe did not look like anyone had even tried to break into it. So why would a robber leave without taking a single thing of value?
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
Still, the son's bedroom window had been opened, and so if Corey had done that to try to stage things to make it look like a break-in and robbery, she didn't do anything else to the house to back that up.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
The detectives talked this over as they went back to the son's bedroom, and when they walked in, one of the forensics officers had a smile on his face, and he said they had just pulled a really clear fingerprint off the outside of the window, so they hoped that would lead them right to the person who had climbed in. And as Moore and Salo stood there, something began to hit them.
MrBallen Podcast: Strange, Dark & Mysterious Stories
Texas Shootout (PODCAST EXCLUSIVE EPISODE)
If somebody did really break into the house through this window, climb into this bedroom, and then make their way all the way to the kitchen, they would almost have to have some previous knowledge of the layout of this place. Because even with all the lights on, this was not an easy house to navigate. It was massive and basically like a big labyrinth.